We're looking at the pieces and trying to solve the puzzle that is Arlen's location, other than, you know, in Texas. You, yes you, can support us on Patreon: / squirreltactics
Springfield is very much in Oregon and the Springfield in Oregon is exactly 2,000 mi from Garland, Texas where Mike judge grew up and also to which he attributed the inspiration for Arlen.
I was thinking the same thing about the comment that it would be a three-hour commute. He might be playing it up to make it sound even more unreasonable than it already is.
I lived in houston most of my life, and i can tell you that most airports in Texas cities are FAR as FUKK away!! Bush airport could take over an hr to get to (of course depending on what side of town youre on). You can drive for 2hrs one way in Houston, and still be in houston....
4:34 "96 miles in an hour is unlikely to happen." Oh ye of little faith. Never underestimate a Texan driver's ability to disregard every road law, rule, suggestion, and inference, written or otherwise.
Dale would say arlen is in a time loop where nobody ages up aside his son that went through a time warp and repeating storylines exist. The matrix was almost broken when luanne had a daughter but they didn't escape
I had the same thought. Back in the 90’s I was stationed in Alaska and I went on leave and one guy from Texas asked me to bring back a six pack of it and I did.
@ryanvinklarek8080 yes, but the current Alamo beer was established in 2014 (another Alamo existed prior to prohibition), 5 years after KOTH's last season.
Ain't Arlen just just a geographical oddity? 96 miles from everywhere! My guess is that 96 is a reference to when the first season was created. Given it debuted in January of 97, it had to have been drawn in 96.
Arlen has always struck me as being similar to Garland. Also, as someone from the Denton area, hearing death to Denton has always been extra funny. Also also, in Returning Japanese, Hank says he wants to go to Denton for their vacation and I don't recommend that.
I plan on making a comic book that takes place in a city in Texas. It's going to be near College Station. In fact, the city in my book is inspired by that place.
Hi. I live in Temple. Everything is extremely temple. Belton is our rival. We "hate" Killeen. Our high school is blue. The park with the rocket in KotH is JUST like a park here in Temple. Also they never mention temple but they always mention the other towns around it. So if it's not specifically Temple then it may as well be.
I mentioned on another video that in the episode "Hank's Dirty Laundry," when "The Beast" is printing shipping labels for Hank at 123 Rainey Street, the zip code is for Austin.
Yeah, BUT in the episode where Khan gets a job in Houston, Minh tells him she doesn't care of Houston is 4 hours away which is about 1.5hr further than the drive from Houston to Austin is (roughly 2.5). The problem is that they've given so much contradictory info that is inconsistent so.... 🤷♂️ let's just say Texas 🇸🇴🇵🇱
Arlen's ZIP Code is actually usually shown to be 73104, which is actually a ZIP Code that belongs to Oklahoma City IRL. I don't think I ever remember seeing Arlen with a 787 (Austin) ZIP Code.
Humble TX is pronounced Umble, my wife is from Lufkin and she quickly corrected me as i used the H when we drive through last December to see her family
Fun fact series creator and the voice of hank Mike Judge also partially based Arlen mostly off of his experiences in *Arizona* towns. Because he noticed a lot of small towns in Arizona had giant propane tanks everywhere which gave him an idea for what hanks career would be.
I recall in the 1990s MJ said Arlen was picked because of Arlington Texas & Houston. Arlen. The pop size, streets of Arlen Texas seemed to vary wildly. In the later seasons, Arlen has at least 1 TV station & large malls, 🏘 ...
I grew up in Austin and always figured they lived right outside the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Never would have guessed Arlen was next to Killeen but it does make a lot of sense with everything they provided in the show.
That’s because Arlen is the Springfield of Texas-anyone telling you it has a specific location is a fool. It’s based on the suburbs of any of the big cities, but it’s too far from any to be any of those. Its geography and geology is too generic to be precisely located, yet it has specific features of all of them. The best you can truly say is that it’s somewhere near the Texas triangle not along I45, but that’s about as exact as you can get. For Austinites, it’s in Dallas, for Dallasites, it’s in Austin. For Houstonians and San Antonians, it’s a different suburb or one of the other cities’. Its only defining characteristic is that it’s in Texas and that it’s close, but not too close, to where in Texas you are.
Yeah there’s an episode where they put a weather map up and you can kinda pick out it’s in the dfw area. Dfw has way more lakes around it than Killeen-belton-temple.
I remember my friends and I spending waaaaay too much time at the school library searching for the answer on Yahoo!. Shows my age when I remember asking Jeeves too....then asking Jeeves if hes gay.
In “Peggy Hill: The Decline and Fall”, S4E1, Luanne accepts Hank’s offer for a hotel room. He proposed Highway 9 but she wanted the Highway 6 location. SH6 runs from Waco to Houston via College Station. SH6 runs from Fort Cavazos to Copperas Grove, which is west of Killeen. Both highways are close enough for Luanne to have had her choice of accommodations.
Even though I was enjoying this video, I did expect it to have the traditional ending of like "So where is Arlen? Nowhere. It genuinely makes no sense at all and there's no good clear answer." so I was genuinely surprised and impressed how well it did manage to line up.
As someone who is stationed in fort Cavazos, and lives in Killeen, I appreciate this video. Awkwardly enough, king of the hill is the reason why I choose to come here to Fort Cavazos (Hood) as my duty station. Best decision of my life, I love it here as much as I love the show.
According to this deadpan toned girl with glasses I spoke to, Arlen is between Highland (where she used to live) and Lawndale (to where she moved). 🎸🎵🎶”Lalala, la-laaa!”
As noted, Arlen(if real) would be by geography, near Kileen. I forgot Bill was stationed at Fort Blanda Texas. I'd add- US Army 1990s 2000s- Fort Hood Texas(now re named) was largest Army pop by size-acres. CONUS, Fort Bragg NC now Fort Liberty 🪂 was largest by pop-units, family house 🏠, support staffs.
Being stationed at Ft.Hood (it will always be ft.hood) knowing it was essentially geographically Killeen makes it so much funnier. If youve ever been to killeen you know.
I did "the math" on this once and I always figured Arlen would be around Copperas Cove, TX, which is a little north of Killeen, just past Fort Cavazos. I have family who lives there, settled after army retirement decades ago, and whenever someone asks if King of the Hill is "accurate", I can honestly say "yeah. Definitely accurate." It's definitely got that small town Texas charm down to a T--and the 90s nostalgia is top tier.
I grew up in Copperas Cove. Many of the mannerisms in the show I would find easily around me. Also, the math of having to drive 2 hours to Dallas, 3 hours to Houston also makes sense.
@TornadoSponge it would make sense because generally Copperas Cove has a different vibe to Kileen which has its own share of disastrous situations which would be perfect for some of the scummier people from the show.
Genuinely really pleased that he included Dale’s pent up rant in this. Always makes me laugh hearing him run out of oxygen but still throwing insults at Bill 🤣
Next project: laying out the precise locations of each the homes on Rainey Street or in the Alley! The street layout is ever changing a lot like the Bundy’s second floor in Married With Children. Yeah they show Al and Peg’s bedroom and a bedroom across the hall but when you see them at different windows throughout the years the house layout doesn’t make sense.
Don't watch Star Trek! 😁 The ships, crews, decks are all out of whack! Mike from Red Letter Media did a in depth video of Star Trek Next Gen set, story flubs.
I love how Connie is from a real place, Anaheim, a town I know well, and she references a town I know extremely well, Buena Park, when she briefly talks about Knott's Berry Farm.
I always placed it around the Tyler/Dallas area based off of an episode where Kahn talks about his new job in Houston and how they needed to move because it was three hours away from Arlen. Speaking from experience, it takes around three-four hour drive to get tou Houston from around Dallas/Tyler Texas area
A 3 hour commute could be round trip instead of one way. The way Kahn phrased it, it could have been that. Which would put Kahn’s job somewhere near Tomball.
From my experience living in Texas Arlen feels like one those towns you pass through when you are driving between Houston and Dallas are Dallas and Austin are San Antonio. A small town that close all the major cities.
As a native that specifically lives in this area, its most similar to Garland. It isnt specifically located anywhere, as it referenced too many other areas. But the actual PHYSICAL layout of arlen and the demographic directly reflects the garland area. I currently live in the Arlington area. There are some suburbs, but it just doesnt look or feel like the show.
My grandmother grew up in Garland. Looking at her family photos, it looks a lot where she grew up. I also think it takes a little bit from other places in Texas as well, but it's taking some huge nods from Garland.
8:10 "we'll spend the day in mexico in case anything happens with the election, civil unrest military coup" Not gonna lie that is the smartest thing Dale has ever said
It’s 100% Temple. So many coincidences that only someone who’s lived here for the whole Life would pickup on. The football games, the massive rivalry between Belton and Temple when the first played each other for the first time after many many years, just everything about the show. The drive times all match up perfectly. And let’s be honest nobody would base a show real of fake, off that retched place called Killeen. 😂
Maybe its because I went to school in Waco, I just assumed it was south of Waco in Central Texas. Glad we reached the same conclusion and it wasn’t my biases of being familiar with it
I have to say, as someone who wasnt necessarily a KTH fan but enjoyed the show when it aired on cable, when I found this channel, I became instantly hooked after watching one of your videos that YT randomly recommended to me. Ive watched all of your videos and now i have the urge to watch the series. I also wanna say that I appreciate that someone whos lived in Texas for 40+ years is the one reviewing and breaking down KTH ❤❤
Thank you, and fun fact: one of the reasons I started this channel was because I noticed people covering the show that wouldn't understand certain things or miss things that were of that time and place, and I figured hey, maybe having lived in Texas when the show was set could come in handy.
@@squirreltactics Thats cool of you to do! I am confident there is stuff you point out that others would miss, especially in this episode like the little details of Houston.
5:45 alt explanation: 96 miles both ways **wud be** a three hr drive. So it is possible Khan is sayin the total travel time each day wud be a 3 hr drive Tho its also quite possible its on the other end of Houston as you said and its more like a 2 and a half hr drive and Khans just roundin, just like he rounded earlier when he said he left 5 hrs later when it was likely closer to 4 hrs later than Hank
As someone who lives in a major metro area, I can say it can and does take at least an hour to go the length of the city in non-rush hour traffic. Again depending upon what kind of driver Khan is, so 3 hours each way is possible.
@@jamestarbet9608 Yeah, i think both interpretations make sense; just offerin a way that it cud still be only 96 miles n yet add up to 3 hrs drive total, cuz that line cudve been meant either way here
Thank you for actually taking the time and effort to figure out where Arlen is instead of just relying on the "Arlen is geographically impossible" cliché that everyone resorts to when trying to figure out where a cartoon town is.
I didn't know Killeen * Belton were mentioned in the show, that's cool. I think Arlen might be an analog for Temple, if Temple is never mentioned in the show. It seems to be in about the right spot, similar population. There's also a town between Temple and Waco called Lorena, which is almost an anagram of Arlen. Also like you said the proximity to the military base in the show seems like a nod to Ft Hood being in that area as well. Wonder how familiar how Mike Judge is with Central TX
Honestly it seems to be an amalgamation of multiple towns in Texas but mostly looks around North Texas or the Hill Country. I’ve even heard some people say Abilene was also an inspiration but that might be a stretch
MY SECOND FAVORITE VIDEO OF YOURS! Also when coming up with a fictional show can we just appreciate how much thought Mike Judge and Greg Daniels put into the show. This video really points that out! The biggest thing for me is that a fictional town is close by the Mexican border, 96 miles from Dallas and 3 hours/96 miles away from Houston.
Lived in round rock, austin, san marcos. New braunfels and mcallen, had friends all around and I love this. The feeling captured is between austin and Houston and a bit north. Just saw the conclusion as i write this, i agree, feels southeast of killeen tho
My guess as to why they call it Heimlich County is ‘cause in German “heimlich” means basically homely (no negative connotation). It’s literally “homelike”. And there are Texas Germans so would makes sense.
@@sexualsalt6016 1. That was half a joke, relax lol. 2. Because growing up in the 90s the only time I heard the word "Heimlich" it was immediately followed by "Maneuver" and I don't know how many other suburban American types used the word outside of that context.
And the Texas Germans live... well, _all over_ the state, but they _originally_ settled and still linger in the Hill Country, which includes the area we've determined as the likely location of Arlen.
When I was younger my sister and I pondered this. We grew up in Dallas and the surrounding area. She surmised that Arlen was a pseudonym for Garland. (Suburb of Dallas) I said, that can't be because of the episode where they were flying out of DFW and the distance to Dallas. I am glad to know I am not the only one to wondered about this. 😊
It’s like years ago when people would try to pin down the exact state Springfield is in The Simpsons, though it seems that is now settled since Matt Groening confirmed it in his home state of Oregon. Though, I’ve heard Arlen is based on Arlington, Texas, yet depending on the episode it can be set at various places in the state of Texas. Plus, there are various cities that Arlen is based on, so who knows. Thanks for the video man, I always look forward to these videos. Keep up the great work and have a great rest of your day and a great weekend. Take care!
No, in the episode "The Propaniacs", Bobby mentions Arlington by name. So Arlington exits in the KotH universe. That and Nancy's Co-anchor is named Berle Arlington.
Back in about 2005 and before I lived in TEMPLE TEXAS and graduated there in 2004 and I can confirm there are many men who stand outside and drink beer. Even my mom said this neighborhood is like that show. 😅
BELL COUNTY!! Fun Times!! And our main enemy is Belton, I use think Arlen, was us, was Temple. But I say Arlen is more like Belton, or Coppers Cove. And maybe Salado, at that point back then. Anything else seems too small or too big.
I've been to almost every real place mentioned here....good logic for sure! I watched the show occasionally and always thought Arlen was Allen...but your logic is tough to argue.
Arlen is obviously 2000 miles away from Springfield.
springfields in washington tho.
I scrolled past 2 comments for this?
@@spiceweaselDamn, you beat me to it! 🤣👍
Springfield is very much in Oregon and the Springfield in Oregon is exactly 2,000 mi from Garland, Texas where Mike judge grew up and also to which he attributed the inspiration for Arlen.
Their is also a Springfield ohio......and south Carolina @@leviwarren6222
Kahn telling Hank they made it to the airport in an hour seems like he lied/embellished as a way to gloat. It fits with his character.
I was going to say this. Fully agree
Yeah. Kahn loves being an A-hole.
And let’s be honest, we ALL know how Kahn drives.
I was thinking the same thing about the comment that it would be a three-hour commute. He might be playing it up to make it sound even more unreasonable than it already is.
I lived in houston most of my life, and i can tell you that most airports in Texas cities are FAR as FUKK away!! Bush airport could take over an hr to get to (of course depending on what side of town youre on). You can drive for 2hrs one way in Houston, and still be in houston....
4:34 "96 miles in an hour is unlikely to happen." Oh ye of little faith. Never underestimate a Texan driver's ability to disregard every road law, rule, suggestion, and inference, written or otherwise.
Unless there is even a quarter inch of snow on the ground
I realize this is a negative stereotype but Kahn is an Asian driver, so...
Not on 35 the day before Thanksgiving
Hell I hit 110 heading to Oklahama
Speed limit is the minimum on the highway
I usually drive 85 the whole way to el paso
It took Peggy about all day to drive to Lubbock, so I'm guessing.... a day's drive from Lubbock.
This IS Peggy we're talking about. Probably made a few stops to give her 2 cents unwarranted.
if you do it wrong enough that could be literally anywhere in texas
Lubbock is just before the odd northernmost part of Texas possibly a days drive from Arlington.
@@caseysmith544it’s based off Killeen area it even says it’s in central Texas
May larmo Har-mez.
Somewhere in texas
Dale: yeah in another dimension
Dang it. I was just gonna leave this same comment. (:
Time is fleeting, madness takes its toll
This is ironically the correct answer
ITS JUST GARLAND
Dang ol Texas, man.
Yo
B-Dawg man
It’s garland for Christs sake
Mhm
😂
Everyone asks where is Arlen but nobody asks How is Arlen
Why is Arlen?
When is Arlen?
What is Arlen?
Who is Arlen
Arlen is Arlen?
Dale would say arlen is in a time loop where nobody ages up aside his son that went through a time warp and repeating storylines exist. The matrix was almost broken when luanne had a daughter but they didn't escape
The Simpsons be like:
Cute and funny Shondo guy
@@just_a_turtle_chad hey. I also do some fgo stuff and drawings too if you wanna check.
That sounds like Brownwood to me
@@Fernetty what's that? It sounds interesting
I think Alamo beer is a play on Lone Star beer.
My one true amigo.
I had the same thought. Back in the 90’s I was stationed in Alaska and I went on leave and one guy from Texas asked me to bring back a six pack of it and I did.
Alamo beer is a real thing
@ryanvinklarek8080 yes, but the current Alamo beer was established in 2014 (another Alamo existed prior to prohibition), 5 years after KOTH's last season.
KotH Alamo beer is a lager. IRL Alamo beer is an ale.
Ain't Arlen just just a geographical oddity? 96 miles from everywhere!
My guess is that 96 is a reference to when the first season was created. Given it debuted in January of 97, it had to have been drawn in 96.
"O Brother, Where Are Thou?" Reference?
Nice
@@ivanzenteno2771 yes
They are not accurate Arlen is based in Richardson tx not 96 miles away and a 4 hour drive
The real Arlen is in all our hearts.
No……………. It’s the friends we make along the way
@@CedsoncoleDamn y'all beat me too it
Arlen has always struck me as being similar to Garland.
Also, as someone from the Denton area, hearing death to Denton has always been extra funny. Also also, in Returning Japanese, Hank says he wants to go to Denton for their vacation and I don't recommend that.
How I always pictured that going: Hank drives by the UNT campus. Without hesitation, he makes a u-turn and heads right back to Arlen.
Hha, goes to Fry St and turns around.
It's in the triangle
I always thought it was a mixture of Garland and Allen.
Exactly, I always heard Arlen is a composite of Garland and Richardson.
I love how we try to figure out locations in cartoons
Where is the Ed, Edd, and Eddy cul-de-sac?
I plan on making a comic book that takes place in a city in Texas. It's going to be near College Station. In fact, the city in my book is inspired by that place.
where is Dimmsdale?
This conclusion also makes sense with Lucky telling Bobby that he used to work at a corn chip factory in Waco!
Hi. I live in Temple. Everything is extremely temple. Belton is our rival. We "hate" Killeen. Our high school is blue. The park with the rocket in KotH is JUST like a park here in Temple.
Also they never mention temple but they always mention the other towns around it.
So if it's not specifically Temple then it may as well be.
It's about the right distance from Wichita Falls too. If it's not Temple, it's Temple and Abilene mixed together.
@@ninjaswordtothehead funny enough I grew up about 45 minutes from Abilene. Arlen absolutely has Abilene qualities (and people) in there.
I used to live in Temple, this seems more accurate than Arlen being Killeen.
Yes.
Temple is full of angry old people and factories.
I mentioned on another video that in the episode "Hank's Dirty Laundry," when "The Beast" is printing shipping labels for Hank at 123 Rainey Street, the zip code is for Austin.
Yeah, BUT in the episode where Khan gets a job in Houston, Minh tells him she doesn't care of Houston is 4 hours away which is about 1.5hr further than the drive from Houston to Austin is (roughly 2.5). The problem is that they've given so much contradictory info that is inconsistent so.... 🤷♂️ let's just say Texas 🇸🇴🇵🇱
@@Dr.ZoidbergPhD Doesn't he say 3 hours? That's close enough if you're just a smidge north of Austin (though I think that's a different zip code).
@professorhaystacks6606 yeah sorry, I hadn't got to that part of the video yet so I was going on memory 😅
@@Dr.ZoidbergPhD That's the point. They don't have to keep it consistent
Arlen's ZIP Code is actually usually shown to be 73104, which is actually a ZIP Code that belongs to Oklahoma City IRL. I don't think I ever remember seeing Arlen with a 787 (Austin) ZIP Code.
Humble TX is pronounced Umble, my wife is from Lufkin and she quickly corrected me as i used the H when we drive through last December to see her family
Also, Coppell is ka-PEL, not COP-el
Was looking for this comment.
@@kalebstuckey570thank you for saving me pointing that out. Signed, former Coppell ISD teacher
*er family.
Fun fact series creator and the voice of hank Mike Judge also partially based Arlen mostly off of his experiences in *Arizona* towns. Because he noticed a lot of small towns in Arizona had giant propane tanks everywhere which gave him an idea for what hanks career would be.
I recall in the 1990s MJ said Arlen was picked because of Arlington Texas & Houston. Arlen. The pop size, streets of Arlen Texas seemed to vary wildly. In the later seasons, Arlen has at least 1 TV station & large malls, 🏘 ...
I grew up in Austin and always figured they lived right outside the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Never would have guessed Arlen was next to Killeen but it does make a lot of sense with everything they provided in the show.
You'd be right to assume so. Geographically, Arlen fits central Texas like Kileen, but Arlen proper was based on Mike Judge's experiences in Garland
That’s because Arlen is the Springfield of Texas-anyone telling you it has a specific location is a fool. It’s based on the suburbs of any of the big cities, but it’s too far from any to be any of those. Its geography and geology is too generic to be precisely located, yet it has specific features of all of them. The best you can truly say is that it’s somewhere near the Texas triangle not along I45, but that’s about as exact as you can get. For Austinites, it’s in Dallas, for Dallasites, it’s in Austin. For Houstonians and San Antonians, it’s a different suburb or one of the other cities’. Its only defining characteristic is that it’s in Texas and that it’s close, but not too close, to where in Texas you are.
Mike J said- 1990s 2000s how Arlen was based on Arlington near Dallas & Houston.
It's right in the middle of the Texas triangle of San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston
Yeah there’s an episode where they put a weather map up and you can kinda pick out it’s in the dfw area. Dfw has way more lakes around it than Killeen-belton-temple.
“Thank you Bobby, you’re a good son.”
I dunno why, but there’s something oddly sweet about that.
Because it's the closest thing to Hank be affectionate
@@TheOneManWhoBeatYou Very first episode Hank tells Bobby that he loves him no matter what and that he can't ever disappoint him.
I remember my friends and I spending waaaaay too much time at the school library searching for the answer on Yahoo!. Shows my age when I remember asking Jeeves too....then asking Jeeves if hes gay.
You wanna know about Jeeves? Look up Jeeves and Wooster! Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry's best show ever!
Last time I heard ask Jeeves I was 13. Damn that brings me back so many times I'd put in my math homeworker hoping it would be figured out for me
Jeeves said he's "jovial".
In my opinion, the day before Thanksgiving is the busiest travel days
thanks, Peggy..!
Agreed. And kindling is the best to start a fire.
That's just my opinion, though.
Got any cleaning tips for us?
@@zacharyhicks6237 combine the cleaning power of ammonia with the sterilization of bleach
To be fair, a three hour drive is basically anywhere in Houston, from Houston.
North Carolinian here, I always assumed Alamo Beer was based on Lone Star. Had no idea there was an actual Alamo beer!
Alamo is definitely a nod to Lone Star, the real life Alamo beer didn't come out until somewhat recently(2014).
Si, si, vomitos, diarrhea…
@@chasekays81 makes sense, a craft brewery in Canada did the same thing for “Puppers”, the fictional beer they drink on the show “Letterkenny”.
I don't know where it is, but it's darlin'.
Spoken like a true arlenite.
Arlenites? You mean “Arlenians.”
Our Texan Squirrel has dropped a King of the Hill lore video? I'm here for it I tell you h'wat.
In “Peggy Hill: The Decline and Fall”, S4E1, Luanne accepts Hank’s offer for a hotel room. He proposed Highway 9 but she wanted the Highway 6 location. SH6 runs from Waco to Houston via College Station. SH6 runs from Fort Cavazos to Copperas Grove, which is west of Killeen. Both highways are close enough for Luanne to have had her choice of accommodations.
It will always be fort hood. Cmon now
Even though I was enjoying this video, I did expect it to have the traditional ending of like "So where is Arlen? Nowhere. It genuinely makes no sense at all and there's no good clear answer." so I was genuinely surprised and impressed how well it did manage to line up.
Texan here.
The mention of Fort Hood, the geographic exactness, the clips, the great work you undertook.
Great video.
🤠🇨🇱
Born in temple lived in killeen. Now i live in san antonio. I would have figured they live near killeen.
My calculations tell me that Arlen is located in Bell County, closest to the Coryell line.
Arlen kind of reminds me of Copperas Cove
The true place of Arlen is in our hearts.
I seriously thought Texas; a huge state had a real Arlen. Somewhere.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Arlen is just the friends you make along the way
I always assumed McMaynerberry was supposed to be a spoof of various towns around Austin, like Manor, Elgin, Pflugerville, Bee Caves, etc.
and possibly a riff on “Mayberry” from another iconic TV show
As a person who lives in the DFW area, every time you talked about Dallas and Denton I got unnecessarily giddy
I got excited when they mentioned the actual city i live in.
As someone who is stationed in fort Cavazos, and lives in Killeen, I appreciate this video. Awkwardly enough, king of the hill is the reason why I choose to come here to Fort Cavazos (Hood) as my duty station. Best decision of my life, I love it here as much as I love the show.
According to this deadpan toned girl with glasses I spoke to, Arlen is between Highland (where she used to live) and Lawndale (to where she moved). 🎸🎵🎶”Lalala, la-laaa!”
Holy fuck you got me good 😂
As noted, Arlen(if real) would be by geography, near Kileen. I forgot Bill was stationed at Fort Blanda Texas. I'd add- US Army 1990s 2000s- Fort Hood Texas(now re named) was largest Army pop by size-acres. CONUS, Fort Bragg NC now Fort Liberty 🪂 was largest by pop-units, family house 🏠, support staffs.
Being stationed at Ft.Hood (it will always be ft.hood) knowing it was essentially geographically Killeen makes it so much funnier. If youve ever been to killeen you know.
Don't honor men who hated America and murdered Americans.
Killeen is the saddest place I’ve ever had the displeasure of going to
THANK YOU
@@ballsysteveCove is better, ruck the foos. Go Dawgs!
Confederates lost. Get over it.
I did "the math" on this once and I always figured Arlen would be around Copperas Cove, TX, which is a little north of Killeen, just past Fort Cavazos. I have family who lives there, settled after army retirement decades ago, and whenever someone asks if King of the Hill is "accurate", I can honestly say "yeah. Definitely accurate." It's definitely got that small town Texas charm down to a T--and the 90s nostalgia is top tier.
I grew up in Copperas Cove. Many of the mannerisms in the show I would find easily around me. Also, the math of having to drive 2 hours to Dallas, 3 hours to Houston also makes sense.
@TornadoSponge it would make sense because generally Copperas Cove has a different vibe to Kileen which has its own share of disastrous situations which would be perfect for some of the scummier people from the show.
Sitting here in Killeen thinking "sure I'll check this video out" only to find out Arlen is in my neck of the woods. 😅
A lot of say it could be Copperas Cove.
Fort Hood will always be Fort Hood.
amen brother 🇨🇱
The “great” place.
@@MelGibsonFan ?
@@zackzeman6449 that was Ft. Hood’s motto.
THANK YOU!
Arlen is the name of the town where Fort Hood (don’t remember the new name) is, if Fort Hood never existed.
1:59 My favorite line😂
Genuinely really pleased that he included Dale’s pent up rant in this. Always makes me laugh hearing him run out of oxygen but still throwing insults at Bill 🤣
I always thought it was just a parody of Arlington, TX.
Next project: laying out the precise locations of each the homes on Rainey Street or in the Alley! The street layout is ever changing a lot like the Bundy’s second floor in Married With Children. Yeah they show Al and Peg’s bedroom and a bedroom across the hall but when you see them at different windows throughout the years the house layout doesn’t make sense.
Don't watch Star Trek! 😁 The ships, crews, decks are all out of whack! Mike from Red Letter Media did a in depth video of Star Trek Next Gen set, story flubs.
I love how Connie is from a real place, Anaheim, a town I know well, and she references a town I know extremely well, Buena Park, when she briefly talks about Knott's Berry Farm.
It's a mixture of Richardson and Garland near Dallas.
Being from Gatesville, I always felt like it was in our area. Right down the road from Belton and Killeen. Maybe Waco?
Ok. Finished the video. I was pretty much right. Haha...
Cove, Heights, or Temple, probably
@@kora___ Same general area.
Spat my water out at the bean joke 6:40 🤣
I completely forgot about that joke until I rewatched the episode while making the video.
@@squirreltactics It's honestly my favorite Dale line.
@@squirreltactics what season/episode is it? I've been snickering at this joke for a good 10 minutes now at least, great video by the way!
@@thomaslewis6613 Beer And Loathing from Season 6
I love when cartons have fictional towns that interact with reals places and it makes sense, great work
Great video! I've wondered all my life this question.
You said them all right except for KAH-PEL (Coppell)
That's the one thing that made me leave a comment
oh man, i needed some Squirrel today. thank you
I liked where you mentioned Arlen dropping the h and then pronounce the h in Humble.
Yep.
Scrolled down looking for this post, lol.
Arlen, Texas is located almost exactly halfway between Deepindaharta, TX and Donmesswit, TX.
I always placed it around the Tyler/Dallas area based off of an episode where Kahn talks about his new job in Houston and how they needed to move because it was three hours away from Arlen. Speaking from experience, it takes around three-four hour drive to get tou Houston from around Dallas/Tyler Texas area
You are my new Favourite KOTH fan. I have been saying Temple, Tx is a great fit. I Love that you see the same way. Excellent Video.
Chill. The squirrels mine. ❤
A 3 hour commute could be round trip instead of one way. The way Kahn phrased it, it could have been that. Which would put Kahn’s job somewhere near Tomball.
This was an amazing video. It was about where I thought it would be. Keep up the great work my dude
From my experience living in Texas Arlen feels like one those towns you pass through when you are driving between Houston and Dallas are Dallas and Austin are San Antonio. A small town that close all the major cities.
As a native that specifically lives in this area, its most similar to Garland.
It isnt specifically located anywhere, as it referenced too many other areas. But the actual PHYSICAL layout of arlen and the demographic directly reflects the garland area.
I currently live in the Arlington area. There are some suburbs, but it just doesnt look or feel like the show.
My grandmother grew up in Garland. Looking at her family photos, it looks a lot where she grew up. I also think it takes a little bit from other places in Texas as well, but it's taking some huge nods from Garland.
Brother, I love your content. Thank you so much for your breakdowns and all your videos. I’ve been enjoying your content for a couple of weeks now.
Glad you like it
I moved to Texas with my family when i was a teenager and I remember genuinely being sad when i found out Arlen wasn't a real city/town 💔
ITS PRONOUNCED UMBLE!
I always thought arlen was in the middle of Texas 😂
This channel is thorough. I vote yes on every idea for an episode you have had and will ever have
I have always wondered this. Nice one buddy
8:10 "we'll spend the day in mexico in case anything happens with the election, civil unrest military coup"
Not gonna lie that is the smartest thing Dale has ever said
It’s 100% Temple. So many coincidences that only someone who’s lived here for the whole
Life would pickup on. The football games, the massive rivalry between Belton and Temple when the first played each other for the first time after many many years, just everything about the show. The drive times all match up perfectly. And let’s be honest nobody would base a show real of fake, off that retched place called Killeen. 😂
Jebus man! You really put in the work to find an accurate location. Cheers my man!
Maybe its because I went to school in Waco, I just assumed it was south of Waco in Central Texas. Glad we reached the same conclusion and it wasn’t my biases of being familiar with it
It's not far from Ouston.
If that’s where Arlen is, it’s only 40 mins away from me
Great video!
In- depth, investigative video essays like this are the beat
Two hours from Houston
Springfield is, in fact, Portland, OR
D’oh!
Famous for its mostly peaceful riots and arson.
@@princessmarlena1359 And Gravity Falls is Boring, Oregon.
@@blinkowarner3117 Nice!
I have to say, as someone who wasnt necessarily a KTH fan but enjoyed the show when it aired on cable, when I found this channel, I became instantly hooked after watching one of your videos that YT randomly recommended to me. Ive watched all of your videos and now i have the urge to watch the series. I also wanna say that I appreciate that someone whos lived in Texas for 40+ years is the one reviewing and breaking down KTH ❤❤
Thank you, and fun fact: one of the reasons I started this channel was because I noticed people covering the show that wouldn't understand certain things or miss things that were of that time and place, and I figured hey, maybe having lived in Texas when the show was set could come in handy.
@@squirreltactics Thats cool of you to do! I am confident there is stuff you point out that others would miss, especially in this episode like the little details of Houston.
All 32 of my years have been in Waco and I swear I've met people just like everyone in the show
5:45 alt explanation: 96 miles both ways **wud be** a three hr drive. So it is possible Khan is sayin the total travel time each day wud be a 3 hr drive
Tho its also quite possible its on the other end of Houston as you said and its more like a 2 and a half hr drive and Khans just roundin, just like he rounded earlier when he said he left 5 hrs later when it was likely closer to 4 hrs later than Hank
As someone who lives in a major metro area, I can say it can and does take at least an hour to go the length of the city in non-rush hour traffic. Again depending upon what kind of driver Khan is, so 3 hours each way is possible.
@@jamestarbet9608 Yeah, i think both interpretations make sense; just offerin a way that it cud still be only 96 miles n yet add up to 3 hrs drive total, cuz that line cudve been meant either way here
Thank you for actually taking the time and effort to figure out where Arlen is instead of just relying on the "Arlen is geographically impossible" cliché that everyone resorts to when trying to figure out where a cartoon town is.
I didn't know Killeen * Belton were mentioned in the show, that's cool. I think Arlen might be an analog for Temple, if Temple is never mentioned in the show. It seems to be in about the right spot, similar population. There's also a town between Temple and Waco called Lorena, which is almost an anagram of Arlen. Also like you said the proximity to the military base in the show seems like a nod to Ft Hood being in that area as well. Wonder how familiar how Mike Judge is with Central TX
A lot of effort went into this video. Good job, friend.
Much appreciated
Its not pronounced Cop'l...its Cop el
Honestly it seems to be an amalgamation of multiple towns in Texas but mostly looks around North Texas or the Hill Country. I’ve even heard some people say Abilene was also an inspiration but that might be a stretch
Used to live in Garland TX, it definitely reminds me of Arlen
MY SECOND FAVORITE VIDEO OF YOURS!
Also when coming up with a fictional show can we just appreciate how much thought Mike Judge and Greg Daniels put into the show. This video really points that out! The biggest thing for me is that a fictional town is close by the Mexican border, 96 miles from Dallas and 3 hours/96 miles away from Houston.
Lived in round rock, austin, san marcos. New braunfels and mcallen, had friends all around and I love this. The feeling captured is between austin and Houston and a bit north. Just saw the conclusion as i write this, i agree, feels southeast of killeen tho
Can you do a video on Strickland propane workers
Yep, that is coming
Awesome thanks
Arlen is a few hours away from Bogachitta Louisiana!!
Asking the important questions!
My guess as to why they call it Heimlich County is ‘cause in German “heimlich” means basically homely (no negative connotation). It’s literally “homelike”. And there are Texas Germans so would makes sense.
Wait. It isn't named after the Maneuver?
@@YokaiEnthusiast Why would it be?
@@sexualsalt6016 1. That was half a joke, relax lol. 2. Because growing up in the 90s the only time I heard the word "Heimlich" it was immediately followed by "Maneuver" and I don't know how many other suburban American types used the word outside of that context.
And the Texas Germans live... well, _all over_ the state, but they _originally_ settled and still linger in the Hill Country, which includes the area we've determined as the likely location of Arlen.
"Heimlich" also means "covert" in german , as in "kept hidden". Makes sense the exact location is unclear.
When I was younger my sister and I pondered this. We grew up in Dallas and the surrounding area. She surmised that Arlen was a pseudonym for Garland. (Suburb of Dallas) I said, that can't be because of the episode where they were flying out of DFW and the distance to Dallas. I am glad to know I am not the only one to wondered about this. 😊
It’s like years ago when people would try to pin down the exact state Springfield is in The Simpsons, though it seems that is now settled since Matt Groening confirmed it in his home state of Oregon. Though, I’ve heard Arlen is based on Arlington, Texas, yet depending on the episode it can be set at various places in the state of Texas. Plus, there are various cities that Arlen is based on, so who knows. Thanks for the video man, I always look forward to these videos. Keep up the great work and have a great rest of your day and a great weekend. Take care!
I think Arlene is supposed to be Arlington
No, in the episode "The Propaniacs", Bobby mentions Arlington by name. So Arlington exits in the KotH universe. That and Nancy's Co-anchor is named Berle Arlington.
Texas is so big we probably just haven’t looked good enough
Being born and raised in Killeen, TX I always thought Arlen was located near Killeen/ Harker Heights/ Copperas Cove area.
Back in about 2005 and before I lived in TEMPLE TEXAS and graduated there in 2004 and I can confirm there are many men who stand outside and drink beer. Even my mom said this neighborhood is like that show. 😅
BELL COUNTY!! Fun Times!! And our main enemy is Belton, I use think Arlen, was us, was Temple. But I say Arlen is more like Belton, or Coppers Cove. And maybe Salado, at that point back then. Anything else seems too small or too big.
I love when shows have a distinct geography and sense of place. It’s so much better than setting them in genericsville, USA
Central Texas born (Ft Hood/Killeen), never really watched the show, but this peaked by interest by the end. Great work!
I've been to almost every real place mentioned here....good logic for sure! I watched the show occasionally and always thought Arlen was Allen...but your logic is tough to argue.
It’s Marlin, TX, but without the M and add an E on the last syllable.