Top 5 PCP and Top 3 Springer Air Rifles - theGunLocker - Airgun Reviews
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- So as it's a little over a year since I started reviewing airguns, I thought it about time that I should post my top 5 PCPs and top 3 Springers. All the air rifles are sub 12 ft lbs and shot on a safe target range.
This is purely a montage on me shooting these rifles on the accuracy test.
To see the full reviews on each of the air rifles shown and more check out my channel:@theGunLocker
TIME STAMPS / CHAPTERS:
TOP 5 PCPs
Fifth place - Kervan Airbos Black Mamba: 00:00:42
Fourth place - FX Biathlon: 00:02:30
Third place - Kral Jumbo Hi-Cap: 00:05:51
Second place - Custom Built Kral Puncher NP-02: 00:09:26
First place - Weihrauch HW100T: 00:13:44
TOP 3 SPRINGERS
Third place - Remington Warhawk: 00:16:12
Second place - Weihrauch HW77K: 00:22:32
First place - Walther LGV: 00:27:57
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Interesting video. As someone has already pointed out springers shoot best rested in the hand then your hand on the rest. I can almost guarantee your flyers are caused by the rifle bouncing in the rest causing inconsistent recoil pattern.
Sorry but that's absolute rubbish...you can't guarantee anything! The pellets were straight out of the tin, not weighed and could have been slightly deformed when loading. The wind was erratic pushing the pellets left and right and the rifle wasn't locked into a rest meaning that any slight deviation in movement, even a thousandth of a millimeter over that distance could send the shot off. Remember the targets are set at 30m. A flyer can occur just the same with a PCP.
That said thanks for watching and all the best
@@theGunLocker you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss good advice my friend. Despite you claiming this is rubbish it is 100% an accurate statement. Classic examples of 'spinger' bounce are high shots usually to the left or right of centre line. Hence why you were getting almost split groups. Rather than being defensive and instantly dismissing something as rubbish you should try it before making judgement. 14 years as a small arms instructor and a good number on the British Army Shooting Team experience here, plus 40 years plus airgunning. Just saying my friend, people aren't here to put you down they're here giving you friendly advice to help you shoot even better 👍👍👍
No it's not my friend. If the hold is consistent, the results will be consistent. Too many other factors to consider. And if it's peacocking that we're doing...I've shot against top BA guys at Bisley many moons ago and won or more than one occasion. Mind you that was with my Tikka M5. Also shot against 360 contestants from all over the globe at the same venue and came 8th...that the was very first tournament I was entered into. Didn't even know it was happening until my good friend Graham told me he'd entered me into it!
Apologies for the typo...meant to say M55
@@theGunLocker all good my friend. We will have to agree to disagree. A piston slamming inside the cylinder rested on a hard surface will produce inconsistent results. No peacocking at all my friend, just stating I am an experienced shooter. Tikkas are an outstanding rifle, I use a .243 quite often. But back to the point I'll put my money were my mouth is and post up a video on my channel tomorrow demonstrating what I'm saying. I'll use a HW77K but shoot at 50metres 👍👍
I can't believe no Air Arms rifles made it into your list.
Sorry, but there's another list coming out shortly...see if one's on there. All the best and thanks for watching.
I was shocked the S510 you tested didn't make it in, it's a very capable rifle that does what it says on the tin.
My AA s410 is a 20+ year old A version. Still in tip top condition. Combined with an old Philippine made Simmons Whitetail Classic 1.5-5x20 Scope takes some beating
Nicely done really interested enjoyed watching
Great review Mark i may look to purchase one or two of them rifles did not think some of there were going to shoot as good as they did 👍
Weihrauch has always been my favorite and will always be. The HW100/110 and AirArms 400 seies are in my opinion the best full stock PCP's on the market. I own also almost all HW springer modells and that's for a reason. The Hades pellets are always a bit less accurate so i think the Walther LGV deserve a new chance with normal domed JSB Jumbo pellets. The China made Warhawk comes not even close to any HW springer. Just the cocking noise tells me enough.. Thanks for showing mate, enjoyed every second. 👍
I have to agree with your comments about Weihrauchs, although I'm not a fan of the HW110. Found it annoying when loading and its balance wasn't the same as the HW100 which in my mind is far superior. It seems to be the case now that manufacturers feel the need to try an improve something that is already working perfectly...why? Does that mean that everything we value as great today will be defunct tomorrow? All the best and thanks for watching.
I had an LGV and couldn't miss with it, if it's not producing the goods it's definitely not the gun. Should just get JSB exacts and it'll be grouping really tight. To be honest I think all airguns are accurate just some are easier to be consistent with. I was getting good groups with my girlfriend's Gamo Barricade but it kicked like a mule and was just horrible to shoot really, don't know why Americans rate Gamo, they make some nice pistols but all their air rifles I've tried have just been horrible.
Another great video. I hope you bought the LGV! Take care.
I couldn't Andy sold it from under me within hours of me posting the video. All the best and thanks for taking the time to comment
As a long time user of an LGV competition ultra, I have to agree though I would recommend AA Diablo Field 8.4 as the pellets. This combo can put pellet on pellet at 50 m and have used it many times to shame the accuracy of PCPs.
Hello my friend,
I'm no one to point the finger. That was a great watch and I see someone has mentioned keeping hold of the underlever.
If it were me, I would have rested the rifle on my hand, then the gun rest. If you do an unrested shot, you could well find your accuracy alters. It's all part of the rules of artillary hold, essential with spring air rifles.
Sorry but completely disagree. There are no rules...a complete myth. Shoot how it best feels. Look at my other videos and you'll see how accurate I can be. All the best and thanks for watching
@theGunLocker Yes, then I suppose it's what feels best to the individual.
Weihrauch HW77/97 is certainly the daddy when it comes to springers. Love that forest green laminate
Oh yes...I like it too!
I'm a weirdo - I prefer the black synthetic option.
Got a HW 77 K in green laminate , awesome rifle , also have a TX 200 HC in beech and a pro sport in walnut , best in the world as far as I am concerned , take you choice or buy them all 🤙😎
@@grahampawson1502 would certainly like to have a go on a Pro Sport, very nice looking rifle, not cheap at all though!
Wrong! TX200 is, Debate over!
Had my walther rotex uc for 3 years now done me good and had my walther century for long time and it is brilliant. Nice video big man wanted a underlever for collection I think I might buy warhawk cheap and accurate I am impressed might buy one and change spring and tune her a bit. 😮
Thanks for this great video Mark. No one tests air rifles as thorough as you do.
Hi Stephen, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I simply want to give an honest review and I hate being conned by manufacturers or sales people and let's be truthful, most reviewers are just that. Look at A*R.... its all about his wife's business V#@*+R A#R. All the best
@@theGunLockercan.t argue with that..
That’s damn good, shooting considering that wind at 30 m👍
Thank you! all the best.
Maybe the weihrauch should have been tested on a better day. I've shot all 3 of the springers you tried on good indoor range. Weihrauch comes out tops.
Everyone knows I'm biased towards my HW77K...had to give the LGV a chance! All the best and thanks for watching
I’m looking to get into pcp from the springer air rifles and was looking at the Kral jumbo hi-cap in.22 . You showed it in 25 and thought it a good rifle what do you think of it in 22 for pest control in and out of farm sheds? Great reviews by the way.
Hi @gerryward7, sorry for the late reply. I think it's a great gun for the price. Should do you well. All the best and Happy New Year to you.
I do wonder which springer would have won if tested in same conditions. Was blowing a gale when you did the hw77.
I am so chuffed it did so well . I once swapped a metal detector worth approx £500 for 4 springers . Still own 3 of them ,bsa meteor mk2,hw35 and hw77k. Think i got a good deal .
Hi @sftatat...you'll be seeing a lot more of the HW77K in future videos! To soon to say why but should be good. All the best and thanks for watching
Knew the outcome before i watched the vid, HW100 all day, every day !
I will put my HW 77 long (un-modified) up against ANY springer out there! Including that Walther.
In my honest opinion, the HW 77 in high wind outshot the Walther LGV in calm conditions. The video was very well done, but I respectively disagree with the rating, given the different circumstances. I'm single hole 5 for 5 at 25 yds. I'll chose the underlever over a break barrel every time!
As I said, I didn't want to come across as biased towards my HW77K...if you've watched my seasons greetings vid you'll know I'll be using the HW77K for HFT. All the best and a happy new year to you.
Weihrauch are superb.
Yes they are... thanks for watching
Surprised there isnt a Tx 200
Hi @jamieogorman9461, simple truth is that I haven't reviewed one yet. The list is made up from those air rifles I reviewed this last year. All the best and thanks for watching.
How can you have a top 5 pcp’s and top 3 springer and not have Air Arms in either? The Air Arms S400 is way better than any Kral, and as for Walther being better than the TX200 or even the prosport that’s a joke. Yes Air Arms rifle are expensive but they are way better than Walther. Only thing I can agree on is the fact Weihrauch is in both list as it rightly should be. On another note it’s not a fair comparison when testing different calibres, you should test either all .177 or all .22 especially when it comes to the springers.
Agreed!
OMG! These are from the air rifles that I have reviewed so far. Life's too short!
So why was the HW110 not in the top 5? Yes life is too short! But if your prepared to make videos and post them you e got to expect people to comment and not agree what you say. I do agree that some video reviews hype certain things because, they either sell or are paid to say good things. Maybe change the title to say top 5 pcp’s and top 3 springers that I have tested!
@@paulstormtrooper9463 or not. And the hw110 didn't perform as well.
@@paulstormtrooper9463 🤔👍🏻
Got two 97s....22 and 177 which has been ratworks tuned....best underlevers for the money by far..👍
I am the same. Two 97k old type. (cocking lever shorter than barrel).177 made in 1998and 22 made in 2001. incredible groups at 40 yards. I self tuned them. Easy gun to tune, great for first time tuning.
Same here mate. They are to good to own just one 😁 Mine are both in .177 One thumbhole and one with classic stock. Cheers!
Hi could i ask you what power is the 97 best at? Mine is 16-17 lbs and 3.6 transfer port
@@redauwg911 In my opinion 16 ft-lbs is great mate. I have one with the Vortek tune kit 16 ft-lbs in .177 and one with just a heavy Titan xs spring that delivers about 19 ft-lbs. The one with the Titan spring is very difficult to shoot and i will swap that spring again. 16 ft-lbs is more than enough power, accurate and good to handle. The sweet spot for a HW97. Think the Titan spring will do better in a .22 cal. Cheers!
@@cheshirebowman4465 I got one in .22, had Ratworks tune it, 3 fps variance, and smooth as butter. Changed the stock for a synthetic thumbhole I found cheap on eBay cos the original was battered. Just gotta watch that loading port, I literally just touched my thumb with & sliced a load of skin off.
I'm gonna say please do a 10 shot group on your rest vs a 10 shot group with your left hand supporting the rifle on your rest just for the sake of it, having shot hw77ks and only springers,
I know there is a difference, Not doubting your experience at all but to settle the debate it would be easier
Hi @TheKillboxer....sorry for the delayed reply. Spoiler Alert! I'm planning on publishing a series about my HFT journey. Stuff like that will be covered. All the best and thanks for watching. Happy New Year.
Hi could i ask you what power is the 97 best at? Mine is 16-17 lbs and 3.6 transfer port
Hi @redauwg911, I honestly can't answer that one as I mainly shoot sub 12 ft lbs. If anyone on the chat knows, they might reply. All the best and thanks for watching.
can you do a review on a Diana 460 magnum please 😀😀
how about the Gamo Magnum 22?
My break barrel of choice is the HW90 gas ram in 20 caliber.
You've got to go a long way to beat a Weihrauch. All the best and thanks for watching
Great video but please hold the cocking arm when loading the pellet. It makes my nerves bad when you don't 😂
Hi, yes I have been drawn over the coals on this one many times now and yes it is good practice to hold the lever. I'm only human and occasionally I make mistakes or simply forget. Its what happens when age creeps in! All the best and thanks for watching
It made me shiver watching that 😔
What scope did you have fitted to the Kral Jumbo?
Hi @Slufnyt1, sorry for the late reply...it's my Centre Point 4-16 X 50. Nothing special but does the job. I like the reticle and the glass is clear. All the best and Happy New Year to you.
@theGunLocker thankyou for the reply. I've just bought my son the kral, it is pre-owned. However he can't see the cross as its too faint, and when we went to change the battery on the illumination, the cap won't go back on due to the ridiculously fine threads being cross threaded. So looking at an alternative sight option. The current one is hawke eclipse sf 4-16x50... what would your suggestion be for reasonable quality scope for indoor target practice?
What length does the 'Kral Jumbo Hi-Cap' fold down to?
It doesn't have a folding stock...it's extendable but not folding. All the best.
@@theGunLocker That's a shame.
Hw77 and hw100. The rest i ditch them😅
I have to agree except for the LGV, that's a smooth shooting springer!
No Tx 200 👀
Bought a new walther century and no matter what I tried it just wouldn't group so it had to go.,.pity as it felt well made
OK...I've never shot a Century and can only go by my experience of shooting the LGV. I guess you get good and not so good in all makes. All the best and apologies for the delayed reply.
You know u have a winner when u buy a HW100 4 years ago for £750 and in 2024 there going for over £1100, Question to you guys, do air guns actually go up in value by this much, if so which ones, and is the HW100 a freak of nature, seems like everyone now wants one but cant get them, let me know !
Grrrr! Where the flipping heck do you buy a new Walther LGV? Or even a Walther LGU.
You'll struggle...best chance is an exdemo or mint second hand
Never mind - I've got the HiCap and HW77 to keep me happy. I know how you feel about Mr BSA but he was right about the Gamo GX40 and 250. @@theGunLocker
Pro sport any day
Yep👍🏻
Funny you should say that...especially as the pro sport uses a Walther barrel! And AA copied Weihrauch's tech
@@theGunLocker yes weird isn’t it how AA manage to improve what ze Germans did🤭
@@noelwallace5257 I don't believe they have
@@theGunLocker ok, it’s subjective, I understand that it’s down to personal preference. However, AA far surpasses the HW range at every level…. You obviously haven’t had the pleasure of testing AA, when you do come back to me.
What barrels do Weihrauch use?
Their own. That way they can control quality better. All the best.
@@theGunLocker Do you know it it's possible to fit a Weihrauch barrel to a BSA Lightning break barrel rifle?
The LGV is a great rifle one of my favourites along with the HW95 &97 as well as the Tx200 and prosport, but for an experienced shooter I was concerned to see you take the safety off while the rifles were pointed skywards, then settling down to take your shot, surely you should have your sight picture before you take the safety off, and as others have said, you will get less flyer's if you support the rifle in your hand, it reduces springer bounce immensely.
Hi @jasoncurtis-cookiedude8540...totally accept your point about safety and for my next videos will make a point of doing it by the book so I do not adversely influence a newbie! Have to admit and I've made this same point on another similar comment. My nearest neighbour in the direction I'm shooting is over one and half miles away and the land behind the target, the paddock is mine, so even if I was to accidentally discharge the air rifle at 45 degrees, the pellet wouldn't escape my property.
Regards springer bounce, I've answered that in my latest video.
All the best and apologies for the late reply.
@@theGunLocker Nice one mate, we are the same wave length it was newbies I was thinking about too, we have all been guilty of it at some point 👍
Where are you based?
Why do you ask?
I’ve never seen anyone shoot a springer like this before. You need to put weight on the front of the stock and preferably use a bean bag.
Thanks for the advice but after shooting this way for over 40 years, I'm happy with my technique
With an LGV competition ultra, I have found it best to use a vanguard Porta-Aim tripod with my left hand under the stock at my shoulder. Any restriction to the movement during shooting kills the accuracy.
Not very consistent in your marking. The HW100T you tested blew this away and you scored it lower.
But you have to remember that price point is a major factor and will skew results in favour of a cheaper rifle if there are only a few millimetres difference in accuracy results.
How come tx or pro sport not in the running when they are two top rifles.shame😂😂
Take the time to watch the intro and you'll figure it out
It's all exempt HW100 cheap RUBBISH not top 5. Top 5 could be Steyr Challenge, WaltherLG400, Air Arms TXi-50, Anschutz 9015, FWB 800 . But Anschutz alone cost more than those 5 scrap Turkish and Chinese airguns 😆 HW100 is good, but definitely not one of the best. Remington springer is low quality Chinese airgun, HW77 is designed to shot with open sights and proper version of this rifle with cheekpiece designed for the scope is HW97. Walther LGV is worst than top underlever from Walther model LGU. The best existing springer Air Arms tx 200 isn't even here 😄
If you took the time to watch the intro you'll have seen that this selection is from the rifles I reviewed this last year...
HW100 all the way
So I won’t be getting an FX BIATHLON then…🤦♂️
I believe Andy at AA Gun Locker in Stafford may have one
@@theGunLocker no thanks, I’ll stick with my Ultimate Sporter 👌🏼
@@noelwallace5257 Right, 💯👍
The Kervan "PING"! awful. No use for pest control or garden plinking,everything in the postcode knows. Turkish guns are cheap but quality?
Had my walther rotex uc for 3 years now done me good and had my walther century for long time and it is brilliant. Nice video big man wanted a underlever for collection I think I might buy warhawk cheap and accurate I am impressed might buy one and change spring and tune her a bit. 😮