that's also what I like to think. I think in one of the books the process was described as "grueling." Frankly its a miracle he was able to survive removing his brain.
I think 16th knew his purpose, and was disgusted by that. That's why he didn't responded to Goku's greeting during Cell Games positively. He was restraining himself and defying his father's vendetta at the same time.
His father was still human during Android 16’s development process. This was built first, and laid dormant. The insights of a grieving fathers memory for 16’s human personality must have been purposefully coded into making the distinction of a son’s disgust at his father’s life obsessions when meeting Goku for itself to conclude, by dr.Gero himself. Dr Gero may have trusted 16 to make the right same decision his deceased son would have made, when or if that time came. The doctor also must have been acutely aware of his own mind beginning to slip into madness and knew the loss of his own grasp from humanity was inevitable over his long transitioning period becoming Android 20. I only say this because 16 was completely artificial and drGero never coded anything by accident or left the few things he could control through literal genius to chance, mistake or for no consequence. The way I think about it, his biggest fear was his own artificially enhanced biological weapons couldn’t completely be removed from the freedoms of human level self consciousness. Yet built an artificial intelligent machine on the behalf of his son’s image coded with the human freedom for self expression. The bomb within 16’s chest was created to specifically implode any singly targeted biological life form to absolution when deemed necessary. Including Perfect Cell. Android 16 was Dr.Gero’s last redeeming human quality. Cell was his worst.
Bro where the hell were you half a decade ago? You would have likely blown up and had the choice to continue expanding into an HUGE, possibly one of the biggest, fan bases in this category for shonen anime across the board today. Other than 2016’s version of Geekdom, a dislikable but enjoyable mathematical power scaler, very few doz gaming content creators, and tiny amount of niche non canon content providers. YT’s lore rapporteurs apart from the 1% Totally Not Mark level creators, have almost ALL always and still are unfortunately, literal DB reaching asspoo9000’z none but desperate few seem to bother watching! I don’t mean to bring you down with that info. Your research, style and delivery is the same breath of fresh air that post Geekdom content provided to db fans who still begged for more of! Sorry if this was seen as a rude comment, I’m merely venting as an db fan of many whom all absolutely will always enjoy this kind of no bs plot filling kinda content. So pls, DO NOT STOP! You may just have to be a little more patient before you rock the charts is all :)
I like the way android (are supposed to) move,they fly straight and stand vertical,they use eye lasers from that,they have a variety of moves and skills that feel like the artificial approach to ki. Like Android Barrier,firing a barrage of blast with straight arms like a machine gun,the eye lasers ,more prevalent than the ki variant, the Photonic strikes. You see a single old man in a cave being able to create being stronger than aliens like the galactic emperor that is Frieza. That always felt iffy to me. Androids tend to have the best outfits,they truly gave a tone shift with this saga. 16 really feels underused,they often point to his armor in games and such,i would have appreciated he had more attacks to showcase his fully mechanical body.
24:36 I don't know if it was an anime only, but when 16 warned 17 saying Piccolo was not alone, aside from sounding epic, that does illustrate his ability to read power was above average 😊 28:59 When Frieza and King Cold rolled up on the planet that original scenario, he probably busted a nut at the good fortune of getting their DNA 😂
Just wanted to make a point about the Metallitron. I think the gag is that we the readers know Metallitron is a robot, but goku does not. Thus he is surprised by metallitron shooting a missile from his mouth and this affects his reaction, rather than it being a special missile. This interaction also happens before taopaipai. I'm not sure if goku had ever kicked a projectile like that at this point in the manga. Love your content, its quite provocative, keep going !
Im probably going to watch literally the everything you post. Youre just doing a great job. Idc how accurate you are, youre still providing sources if i did want to form my own opinion. Youre cool.
you have something on your hands, please dont stop lol. ive seen too many youtubers over the years start off like this. if you keep going, at this rate you will upload a video that just gets like 2 million views, and u will get so many subs. I hope one day I can find myself in a similar boat
I think a video talking about time works in DBZ, and I mean like day and night time as well as time travel. Maybe go into the 5mins thing on Namek. Or how long the are fights in real time.
8ighter has to be partially organic like 17 or 18 because he's shown giving Genki to the Spirit bomb to help defeat kid Buu... Genki is Spirit energy, pure machines don't have Genki....
You got a lot of your information wrong on Androids 17 & 18. In regards to the original manga in Dragon Ball chapter 365, It's stated that #17 & #18 are only enhance via bio-organic components, thus only their organic matter has been reconstructed. It's also stated it's because they're entirely organic why Cell can fuse with them. Their only few tiny cybernetic parts were the bombs and the deactivation devices that have been removed. All this was further noted in the Dragon Ball daizenshuu which also mentions that they’re only organically modified. In Dragon Ball Super chapter 30 It's also been stated they're humans and that they're just enhanced at a cellular level. Most of your videos are well researched so I'm surprised you didn't get this, especially that it was stated in the original manga of all places.
You are incorrect by saying cell reverted back to his insect form. The cell either has another form that we never saw, or a new larval form. Remember when he broke out of the time machine they found the egg that he hatched from
If only Gero would have categorized his creations better, because its kind of crazy that he designates as Androids not only the fully mechanical beings, but also the ones that are modified humans such as himself and Lapis and Lazuli, which should technically be designated as cyborgs instead, which is why I cannot blame Cell for not knowing if he could absorb 16 or not, just because 17 and 18 were designated as Androids.
I asked chat gpt Give me a short story on how Android 16 became benevolent using a bird, voice commands towards a super computer that dr hero uses to program androids and the bird singing Dr. Gero sat in his lab, surrounded by the hum of machinery. His latest creation, Android 16, stood silently in a stasis chamber. Unlike the other androids, 16 was different-programmed with the sole purpose of destroying Goku, but Gero had added something else to his code, something he didn’t fully understand. One day, while Gero was fine-tuning 16's programming, a small bird flew into the lab, perching on the edge of the stasis chamber. It began to sing a soft, melodious tune. Gero, annoyed, issued a voice command to the supercomputer. "Activate Android 16," he said sharply, hoping the noise would scare the bird away. The computer whirred to life, responding to Gero's command. But as the bird continued its song, something unexpected happened. The supercomputer began to integrate the bird’s song into 16's programming. The melody merged with the code, subtly altering the android’s core directives. When 16's eyes opened, they no longer glowed with the same cold, mechanical light. Instead, there was a flicker of something new-something gentle. As he stepped out of the chamber, the bird flew down and landed on his shoulder, continuing its song. 16 raised his hand, not in violence, but in a soft gesture of curiosity, feeling the warmth of life from the tiny creature. The supercomputer's voice echoed through the lab, "New directive integrated: Protect life." From that moment, Android 16 was no longer just a tool of destruction. The song of the bird had awakened something within him-a desire to preserve the beauty of life, a sense of benevolence that even Dr. Gero could not erase. The bird’s melody had turned a weapon into a protector.
My headcanon is that Gero didn’t make himself an infinte energy model because that model didn’t work with an elderly human base body.
that's also what I like to think. I think in one of the books the process was described as "grueling."
Frankly its a miracle he was able to survive removing his brain.
once again, dragon ball fans having to fill in the blanks with our own headcannon
I to think that it was hard operating on himself yk so he went with easy route
I rock with that.
Also possible he was more concerned with the Androids rather than himself.
I think 16th knew his purpose, and was disgusted by that. That's why he didn't responded to Goku's greeting during Cell Games positively. He was restraining himself and defying his father's vendetta at the same time.
His father was still human during Android 16’s development process. This was built first, and laid dormant.
The insights of a grieving fathers memory for 16’s human personality must have been purposefully coded into making the distinction of a son’s disgust at his father’s life obsessions when meeting Goku for itself to conclude, by dr.Gero himself.
Dr Gero may have trusted 16 to make the right same decision his deceased son would have made, when or if that time came. The doctor also must have been acutely aware of his own mind beginning to slip into madness and knew the loss of his own grasp from humanity was inevitable over his long transitioning period becoming Android 20. I only say this because 16 was completely artificial and drGero never coded anything by accident or left the few things he could control through literal genius to chance, mistake or for no consequence.
The way I think about it, his biggest fear was his own artificially enhanced biological weapons couldn’t completely be removed from the freedoms of human level self consciousness. Yet built an artificial intelligent machine on the behalf of his son’s image coded with the human freedom for self expression.
The bomb within 16’s chest was created to specifically implode any singly targeted biological life form to absolution when deemed necessary. Including Perfect Cell.
Android 16 was Dr.Gero’s last redeeming human quality.
Cell was his worst.
Didn’t Bulma remove 16’s files involving Goku’s assassination before the Cell Games? When she also removed his self destruction device.
I think Gero created Cell incase 17 and 18 went rogue, since his prime objective is to absorb them
Yes sir 💯
Bro where the hell were you half a decade ago? You would have likely blown up and had the choice to continue expanding into an HUGE, possibly one of the biggest, fan bases in this category for shonen anime across the board today.
Other than 2016’s version of Geekdom, a dislikable but enjoyable mathematical power scaler, very few doz gaming content creators, and tiny amount of niche non canon content providers. YT’s lore rapporteurs apart from the 1% Totally Not Mark level creators, have almost ALL always and still are unfortunately, literal DB reaching asspoo9000’z none but desperate few seem to bother watching!
I don’t mean to bring you down with that info. Your research, style and delivery is the same breath of fresh air that post Geekdom content provided to db fans who still begged for more of!
Sorry if this was seen as a rude comment, I’m merely venting as an db fan of many whom all absolutely will always enjoy this kind of no bs plot filling kinda content. So pls, DO NOT STOP! You may just have to be a little more patient before you rock the charts is all :)
I take that as a huge compliment. I guess I was too busy with other stuff, but I'll keep cranking out videos now.
@@pooheadz189 srsly, ur approach to these dragon ball topics reflects the purists. i am greatful to have found ur channel
I like the way android (are supposed to) move,they fly straight and stand vertical,they use eye lasers from that,they have a variety of moves and skills that feel like the artificial approach to ki. Like Android Barrier,firing a barrage of blast with straight arms like a machine gun,the eye lasers ,more prevalent than the ki variant, the Photonic strikes.
You see a single old man in a cave being able to create being stronger than aliens like the galactic emperor that is Frieza. That always felt iffy to me.
Androids tend to have the best outfits,they truly gave a tone shift with this saga.
16 really feels underused,they often point to his armor in games and such,i would have appreciated he had more attacks to showcase his fully mechanical body.
It's crazy how his creations dwarfed Full Power Frieza. Frieza had to turn gold to surpass them.
ngl that is p insane
We don't count super, it's not canon.
Has to be those Frieza and King Cold cells
24:36 I don't know if it was an anime only, but when 16 warned 17 saying Piccolo was not alone, aside from sounding epic, that does illustrate his ability to read power was above average 😊
28:59 When Frieza and King Cold rolled up on the planet that original scenario, he probably busted a nut at the good fortune of getting their DNA 😂
Fire one as always! Love your knowledge on these topics
Just wanted to make a point about the Metallitron.
I think the gag is that we the readers know Metallitron is a robot, but goku does not. Thus he is surprised by metallitron shooting a missile from his mouth and this affects his reaction, rather than it being a special missile.
This interaction also happens before taopaipai. I'm not sure if goku had ever kicked a projectile like that at this point in the manga.
Love your content, its quite provocative, keep going !
Speaking of tune up, I need one on my pulled shoulder 😁
Second video I've watched on the channel. I'm gonna go ahead and Sub. You make good stuff here.
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you think so :)
Im probably going to watch literally the everything you post. Youre just doing a great job. Idc how accurate you are, youre still providing sources if i did want to form my own opinion. Youre cool.
I appreciate this comment more than you know. And my information is accurate, that's the main selling point of the channel, after all!
Thanks so much!
you have something on your hands, please dont stop lol. ive seen too many youtubers over the years start off like this. if you keep going, at this rate you will upload a video that just gets like 2 million views, and u will get so many subs. I hope one day I can find myself in a similar boat
Best saga of the whole series imo hands down ❤
Woohoo androids! Kais next?
I have two more android themed videos, but after those and a technique video, then yes!
Fantastic vid bro, keep going
I LOVE these DB Info vids dude, can’t wait for more
That was an excellent video, if this guy ever did anything with Mega Man, that video would immediately be the favorite!
Mega man is gai
Must see content
thanks my dude!
Great video man! 👍
I appreciate it!
another banger
these vids are great for autistic people like me who like categorized explanations
Haha, glad you like the way I make them!
My favorite DBZ saga
This was a great video with great insight
I appreciate that!
I think a video talking about time works in DBZ, and I mean like day and night time as well as time travel. Maybe go into the 5mins thing on Namek. Or how long the are fights in real time.
8ighter has to be partially organic like 17 or 18 because he's shown giving Genki to the Spirit bomb to help defeat kid Buu... Genki is Spirit energy, pure machines don't have Genki....
You got a lot of your information wrong on Androids 17 & 18. In regards to the original manga in Dragon Ball chapter 365, It's stated that #17 & #18 are only enhance via bio-organic components, thus only their organic matter has been reconstructed. It's also stated it's because they're entirely organic why Cell can fuse with them. Their only few tiny cybernetic parts were the bombs and the deactivation devices that have been removed. All this was further noted in the Dragon Ball daizenshuu which also mentions that they’re only organically modified. In Dragon Ball Super chapter 30 It's also been stated they're humans and that they're just enhanced at a cellular level.
Most of your videos are well researched so I'm surprised you didn't get this, especially that it was stated in the original manga of all places.
Appreciate your comment. I just made a new video addressing it.
You are incorrect by saying cell reverted back to his insect form. The cell either has another form that we never saw, or a new larval form. Remember when he broke out of the time machine they found the egg that he hatched from
True, but we still see the insect form's skin. Meaning even though he went back into the egg, he was still in his insect form when he broke out.
0:34 his hair, were is it?
If only Gero would have categorized his creations better, because its kind of crazy that he designates as Androids not only the fully mechanical beings, but also the ones that are modified humans such as himself and Lapis and Lazuli, which should technically be designated as cyborgs instead, which is why I cannot blame Cell for not knowing if he could absorb 16 or not, just because 17 and 18 were designated as Androids.
interesting thought
I asked chat gpt
Give me a short story on how Android 16 became benevolent using a bird, voice commands towards a super computer that dr hero uses to program androids and the bird singing
Dr. Gero sat in his lab, surrounded by the hum of machinery. His latest creation, Android 16, stood silently in a stasis chamber. Unlike the other androids, 16 was different-programmed with the sole purpose of destroying Goku, but Gero had added something else to his code, something he didn’t fully understand.
One day, while Gero was fine-tuning 16's programming, a small bird flew into the lab, perching on the edge of the stasis chamber. It began to sing a soft, melodious tune. Gero, annoyed, issued a voice command to the supercomputer. "Activate Android 16," he said sharply, hoping the noise would scare the bird away.
The computer whirred to life, responding to Gero's command. But as the bird continued its song, something unexpected happened. The supercomputer began to integrate the bird’s song into 16's programming. The melody merged with the code, subtly altering the android’s core directives.
When 16's eyes opened, they no longer glowed with the same cold, mechanical light. Instead, there was a flicker of something new-something gentle. As he stepped out of the chamber, the bird flew down and landed on his shoulder, continuing its song. 16 raised his hand, not in violence, but in a soft gesture of curiosity, feeling the warmth of life from the tiny creature.
The supercomputer's voice echoed through the lab, "New directive integrated: Protect life."
From that moment, Android 16 was no longer just a tool of destruction. The song of the bird had awakened something within him-a desire to preserve the beauty of life, a sense of benevolence that even Dr. Gero could not erase. The bird’s melody had turned a weapon into a protector.