DB Info: The Saiyans

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 172

  • @pooheadz189
    @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Two small corrections, friends! Firstly, I misspoke on Saiyan tails, as finleyfield6912 correctly pointed out. They don't get two tails, but their tails do grow back twice. Somehow I mixed that up in my head, thanks! Also, Piccolo's power multiplies by a factor of 3 when using the SBC, not 4 like I said in the video. I was calculating his power before he took his training weights off. Other than that, we all good.

    • @occasionalstoner
      @occasionalstoner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also Nappa is not the only saiyan with facial hair. Vegeta and Broly's fathers, both, have facial hair. Not only in the anime but in the manga as well!

    • @deplorabledegenerate2630
      @deplorabledegenerate2630 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The tail thing is very inconsistent. I've heard it said that saiyan children can regrow tails like human babies can fingertips, but Vegeta claims his tail will grow back when he recovers from the battle on earth. It never does.
      There's also the Giran fight which seems to indicate saiyans with tails are much stronger than those without

    • @Incrementium
      @Incrementium หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think losing it twice causes it to stop growing back. Not sure if it's cannon but Goku's only stopped growing back after he had it surgically removed if I remember correctly. So that or my other suspicion might be that it stops growing back once they stop growing as "adults". Because realistically we only see it grow back on characters before they stop growing and they only seem concerned about it or not have it grow back as adults.
      Also the wolf comparison you made around 16:30 is wrong, wolves do take care of sick members and usually only don't when it directly hinders survival. Make sure the animal comparison you are making is correct before you make it, because the thing you build falls down quickly when established on foundations with holes.

    • @deplorabledegenerate2630
      @deplorabledegenerate2630 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Incrementium Specifically Kami removed it, implying magic might have been involved.
      Wolves also regurgitate vomit into their baby's mouths.

    • @GreatSageGoku
      @GreatSageGoku 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe you got it mixed up with regards to the Blutz Waves and Zenos. Blutz Waves is the electromagnetic wave that sunlight bounces off from the surface to the Saiyan's sight, whereas Zenos is a unit of measurement. And for the Oozaru, or Great Ape, having a "dog-like head" doesn't quite fit with the description. It looks more akin to a baboon or macaque with their beak-like protruding mouth, considering the literal term is a "giant monkey." And I believe their size is comparable to the 1930's King Kong that stands at least 20 feet in height, despite other forms appearing bigger like Baby in GT, but it's a thing called "inconsistency". Should be noticeable based on Vegeta holding Goku like an action figure, and perhaps it's that whole Square-Cube Law. If their strength is equal to their surface area, which is by 10 times, then their length is by 3 when you square root the area. I believe that's within the ballpark. I've been trying to go in-depth with regard to the logic of Dragon Ball, like the experts did on the official website.

  • @junichiroyamashita
    @junichiroyamashita 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    I like the natural way sayans use their ki blast. Goku and Earthling use martial arts inspired moves,but sayans more like throw ki blasts, it is more noticeable with Raditz,but also Turles. Feels really raw strenght,no technique,also the use of knees and elbows more than punches. Nappa seems to have the "raw" theme to a point, with body tackles,mouth blasts, large explosions and so on. Very animalistic.

    • @mathematics557
      @mathematics557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Wow this is actually great analyzing, I've always noticed that as well, especially with Nappa his explosive like attacks fits with his juggernaut like barbaric nature. I always thought nappa had some of the coolest destructive looking attacks. Vegeta also fits into this category as well, he would often spam crazy amounts of ki blast attacks rapidly and his Galick Gunn attack fits with the essence of the saiyans raw nature as well. You should definitely make a video about the various ki attacks from different species, would luv to here your input about frieza's attacks.
      Oh yeah broly also is similar to nappa when it comes to the animalistic barbaric nature of his explosive ki blast attacks, and like nappa he uses slams, grabs, throws which corresponds with his animalistic nature. Bardock to was very raw and animalistic with his attacks, especially with how he fights when using melee combat dude was an animal a straight spartan raw, rough, rugged and blood thirsty for destruction. Thats very good analyzing you did with the saiyans I really hope you make a video about this. I'd definitely watch it.

  • @WhoElseButZane
    @WhoElseButZane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I think you should do the Kais next. Including the lower kais too.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'll put that on the list! Thanks

    • @johnsw224
      @johnsw224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There's like millions of those it seems

  • @SaucemanK
    @SaucemanK 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Im 99% sure the "all low class saiyans look the same" isnt a fan theory but comes directly from turles saying it in the movie. Been a while since ive seen it tho.

    • @shawnwebb4594
      @shawnwebb4594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      That's correct, exactly what I came here to say.

    • @LogosBKC
      @LogosBKC 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Aka easier on animation

    • @princeindisguise
      @princeindisguise หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But do they all look alike?

    • @HQ_Default
      @HQ_Default หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn't that something added in the dub as a sort of hand-waive explanation on why he looks so much like Goku?

  • @LumbagO44
    @LumbagO44 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Holy hell, I've been waiting for someone to make these detailed species analysis vids for the longest! Immediately subbed, dude. I'm super stoked to see the next vid :)))

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you! Check out my namekian video too if you liked this one :)

    • @LumbagO44
      @LumbagO44 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @pooheadz189 That was my introduction to you! So lucky it came into my recommended lol

  • @charzanboo9940
    @charzanboo9940 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    Two things about zenkais: Cell, Gohan, and Trunks aren't pure sayians and zenkais can go unnoticeable when compared to the 50x boost of SSJ1.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Half Saiyans and obviously Cell can still experience them, and a zenkai would only make a super saiyan's boost that much more noticeable. 3x50 is 150 but 4x50 is 200.

    • @ssjalpha6593
      @ssjalpha6593 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@pooheadz189and so if i hand you two wallets, one with $150 and one with $200, i suppose you can tell which is which from the weight of it right?

    • @ThexVaultxTech
      @ThexVaultxTech หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ssjalpha6593
      Try it and I'll tell you

    • @mookiestewart3776
      @mookiestewart3776 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ssjalpha6593if the dollars were in the form of “singles” then yes….yes I could tell you which wallet had 150 vs 200……nice try at the analogy though lol

  • @vincentshadetree
    @vincentshadetree 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    20:40 I think this why I've enjoyed recent arcs of Vegeta training. He was his planet's Gohan, a prodigy with immense potential, but he probably never received proper training from a master. From Whis, the Yardrats, and Beerus, he's made some tremendous gains and though he'll never outshine Goku in his own show, he's a realistic rival for Goku now that Vegeta is getting the training Goku benefitted from over his years.

  • @charzanboo9940
    @charzanboo9940 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Small correction: in Daizenshuu 7, Raditz's power level is 1,500.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is not what his power is in the manga, however. Piccolo's SBC was below that and able to pierce his armor and body, and the saibaman were 1,200 and confirmed to be as strong as Raditz.

    • @charzanboo9940
      @charzanboo9940 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@pooheadz189 Piccolo's first SBC only grazed Raditz's shoulder causing minor damage. Piccolo's second SBC was shot at a weakened Raditz (from Gohan's attack). Further, after Tien beats the first saibaman, Nappa states "ばかな…!! 栽培マンの戦闘力は1200だぞ…!! パワーだけならラディッツに匹敵する…!!" which Herms 98 translated to “Impossible…!! The Saibaiman’s battle power is 1,200…!! In terms of power, it *rivals* Raditz…!!” VIz translated the 匹敵/hitteki, to be equal to but Viz hasn't been without mistakes and I trust Herms over them.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@charzanboo9940I use herms strength checker, and rivals is synonymous with that. In the manga, a 25% increase in strength is vast. Plus, while Raditz was weakened, he did not have a battle reading of his weakened state, but he did have a battle reading of Piccolo's attack, which he was certain would kill him regardless.

    • @charzanboo9940
      @charzanboo9940 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pooheadz189 You indeed used Herms strength checker but not fully. See the Herms strength checker excerpts below that back up my claim that Raditz's power level is indeed at 1,500:
      11. Son Gohan [#SA1#GOH]
      Chapter: 204 (DBZ 10), P12.1-2
      Vegeta: “At any rate, the battle power of Kakarot’s son is unusually high, even by the standards of Saiyan children.”
      Nappa: “Maybe his reading was wrong.”
      Vegeta: “No, it wasn’t wrong. *Raditz really took a large amount of damage from that brat’s attack.* It seems that mixing Saiyan and Earthling blood begets a powerful hybrid.”
      *This quote from Vegeta supports my claim that Raditz was indeed weakened greatly from Gohan's surprise attack, which made him especially vulnerable to Piccolo's 2nd SBC as been previously stated.*
      Chapter: 203 (DBZ 8), P4.1, P8.3, P9.4
      Context: Gohan gets extremely mad as Raditz torments Goku, powering up, but this power goes away quickly
      Raditz: “Ba…ba…battle power 1,307?! [ ] N... now his battle power is only 1. It... it completely changes with his em... emotions…[ ] Only a child?! You’re joking! The brat has a higher battle power than *you!* I’ll kill him now, while he still doesn’t know how to use it properly…!”
      *This excerpt is especially important because Raditz himself offers a comparison of Gohan's 1,307 power level to Goku's with the former exceeding the latter, but notice Raditz does not include himself along with Goku.*
      8. Saibaimen [#SA2#BAI]
      Chapter: 215 (DBZ 21), P1.3
      Context: after Tenshinhan beats a Saibaiman
      Nappa: “"I'm-impossible...!! The Saibaiman's battle power is 1,200...!! Going just by power, he *rivals* Raditz...!!"
      *Here is the main quote, which uses the more vague term 'rival' instead of the more specific 'equal' in terms of the Saibaiman's power level in relation to Raditz. Case in point, you reference 25% as vast, but Yamcha's power level of 1,480 was close to Daizenshuu 7's 1,500 listing for Raditz (Yamcha being numerically 23.3% more powerful than than a Saibaiman), yet Yamcha ultimately died to a Saibaiman's attack.*
      *This, it is pretty clear from all of the above evidence, Raditz was indeed at a power level of 1,500, which can still be considered rivaled by a Saibaiman's 1,200.*

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@charzanboo9940The only quote there that could be construed as his battle power being above 1200 there is Raditz saying Gohan's battle power was above Goku's and not his. Though it could have been said because Goku is Gohan's father and ironically he's here to save Gohan.
      Piccolo's initial SBC had a PL of 1330 and Raditz was still scared of it, and Yamcha's saibaman fight only proves my point, because Yamcha handily beat the Saibaman in just a few panels. And a self destruction attack is more damaging than a regular attack, case in point with Chaiohtzu and Vegeta. If it wasn't, then there would never be any need to use it because it would be the same as regularly attacking, without the need to kill oneself.

  • @WhoElseButZane
    @WhoElseButZane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Maybe the reason why saiyans prioritize combat over sexual reproduction is because once they've proven to be very powerful and skillful they can pass down those genes, whereas the weak ones will continue to train and fixate on fighting and might die in combat before they attempt to get laid. Therefore each generation gets way more powerful than the last because only the powerful are reproducing

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Interesting thought

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    With the healing chambers they had access to, killing Napa for such a thing as a broken back seems wasteful.

    • @skillet9141
      @skillet9141 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Especially when the Saiyan race is pretty much extinct by that point. Vegeta should have paid more mind due to that.

    • @ThexVaultxTech
      @ThexVaultxTech หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Vegeta kills Nappa because he's defeated by a low class warrior and proves he's weak as a person.

    • @noneyabidness9644
      @noneyabidness9644 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ThexVaultxTech maybe, but Geets also took an L immediately after and didn't unalive himself.

    • @NateBullock-ow6on
      @NateBullock-ow6on หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@noneyabidness9644it took Goku, Gohan transforming and three other guys to do it though

    • @noneyabidness9644
      @noneyabidness9644 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NateBullock-ow6on and how many people did Napa fight before taking his L?

  • @SilverSlugs16
    @SilverSlugs16 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Been watching anime since 2012 but took a while before I finally tackled the big 3 and then _finally_ watched dragon ball the past ~8 months. All 4 anime, almost every movie and now reading the super manga. Not only is it easily one of my favorites unsurprisingly, I find the lore about the different species but especially the Saiyans super interesting and underrated. Since I’m so late to the party I’ve missed lots of the discussion about it and I’m itching for more. Everything about them is so cool, really appreciate this breakdown. Toriyama was a legend and so are his fans

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey, never too late to join the fandom! I'm glad this vid helped you out. I might make more Saiyan vids in the future! And DB/Z is def my fave too.

  • @jimbobob9273
    @jimbobob9273 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Rest in piece Akria Toriyama, keep up the great videos Poo!

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks friend!

  • @SilentGig1
    @SilentGig1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is exactly how i like to consume my Dragonball content. Slowly, methodically and using the manga as the anchor. Great channel!

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Phenomenal Analysis, comparison & story breakdown on The Saiyan Hierarchy. Your very clever when it comes to power levels.. I can’t wait to share the accurate power levels in The Saiyan Saga. It’s like math, The manga and anime provide the concept, but it’s up to us to put it together accurately, to get the answer. I am very impressed with this vid, your quality is always top tier. Shout out to your friends as well.

  • @thisdawg812
    @thisdawg812 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Happy Saiyan day

  • @captainobscurity491
    @captainobscurity491 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Just a few days ago I learned that there is a vegatable called Burdock Root that is mucy more popular in Japan than the west and thats what Bardock is named after.

  • @deplorabledegenerate2630
    @deplorabledegenerate2630 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Raditz mentions that Goku doesn't have the necessary training to take him on. Which to me implies that they'd train him up to take out that planet. Obviously training isn't high on their to do list but they still do some training, and Goku probably would have benefited from it.

  • @matthewcrockett288
    @matthewcrockett288 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My head canon has always been that Raditz sought out Kakarot so that Nappa and Vegeta would pick on Kakarot instead of him.

  • @jarrettmcbride77
    @jarrettmcbride77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Got to say...your videos are probably the best on dragon ball lore. I feel like all my questions get answered and even things I didn't even consider. Feels like you made the subject an actual science. ❤

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These kinds of comments make this channel worthwhile. Thanks so much!

  • @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
    @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Amazing video. Such an interesting people. I like the idea of Saiyan having very low genetic diversity, hence them looking similar and basically having the same faces sometimes. It makes sense that before becoming a space travel capable people they probably competed with each other for resources (given the huge amount of food they eat) so intraspecies compitition kept numbers low and removed weaker genetics from the gene pool.

  • @UncleTotinos
    @UncleTotinos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    How do you still only have under 400 subscribers?
    This is good stuff!

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks! And I guess I only really started recently, but hoping to grow soon!

  • @shikamaruw97
    @shikamaruw97 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Keep going I love this content , so comforting

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much, and I definitely will

  • @judethomas441
    @judethomas441 หลายเดือนก่อน

    26:38 It is important to mention that Vegeta has the same hairstyle as his father. With Goku's heritage, he has the same hair as his father. Goku's second son has the same hair as him. Bardock's second son has the same hair as him, with raditz being unique.
    I know for certain that this is all speculation based on what is likely just a random pattern. But it is curious. It is possible that, aside from higher average power levels, higher-class warriors had less variance in their offspring.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is good to note!

  • @jfk8540
    @jfk8540 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    noticed a few big things you missed. nappa was shown to have hair in his brief appearance in the beginning of the broly movie. and vegeta had a mustache in the beginning of GT, which i know isn’t cannon but is relevant. and i know you mentioned they didn’t have facial hair “until super” but goku and vegeta both emerged from the hyperbolic time chamber with full beards, and paragus went to vompa with a mustache and grew a full beard. which does imply that saiyans grow facial hair albeit at a much slower rate, as it seems to take years to reach that point.

  • @WhoElseButZane
    @WhoElseButZane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Imagine if any other race had as much development and intricacies as the saiyans

  • @jamesgastovski3184
    @jamesgastovski3184 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:56 Vegeta had a mustache in DBZ

  • @CeeDoubleU
    @CeeDoubleU 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zenkai boost works like the situation with Gohan and Goku in the room of spirit and time. You train in base form because transformations are simply a multiplier of your base form so the stronger your base, the more powerful your transformations become and your base form even becomes stronger to support the toll of the transformations on the body and mind as the multipler from the transformations increases. Also you can spend long periods of time in a trasformed state and overtime the transformation becomes easier to control until it pretty much feels like a natural state causing you to be able to transform without having to use much energy because you're so used to the transformation and then power up from there

  • @MrMartellSincere
    @MrMartellSincere 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Aww glad I came to see how Saiyans history

  • @scorpionfiresome3834
    @scorpionfiresome3834 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:08
    I remember thinking about this and getting confused, Goku’s tail was removed once and never grew back (unless you count GT but it was because he was reverted to being a kid anyway) and the same is true for Vegeta, only Gohan had it grow back at least once.
    Another thing to note is that the other half saiyans were not born with a tail at all like Goten, Trunks and Bulla, but i guess you can chalk it up to them simply not inheriting it.
    Edit: nevermind, Goku’s tail was removed twice, the first time was very early on.

  • @ndiaz1982
    @ndiaz1982 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20:46 was that key exceptions or ki exceptions?

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      key exceptions

  • @finleyfield6912
    @finleyfield6912 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think you might be wrong about the saiyans only being able to grow the tails back once. Goku actually grows his tail back two times in Dragon Ball: the first time was during his fight with Giran, and the second time was during his offscreen training before the 22nd tournament. Additionally, Vegeta and Raditz don't seem to be able to regrow their tails. Raditz even confirms that he could have snapped off his own tail when Goku grabbed it, but didn't immediately do this since he would lose it permanently. Toriyama said in an interview that the tails don't grow back once a saiyan surpasses the Oozaru in his base form, but it seems like that definitely wasn't the case for Vegeta. I think a simpler explanation is just that the tail can grow back before the saiyan gets his growth spurt, but not after.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good catch, I did misspeak on that. I remembered both times but for some reason I put it in my head that growing back twice = two tries with the tail. I will make a comment on that!

    • @youtubestudiosucks978
      @youtubestudiosucks978 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      How do you surpass something in your baseform that's a 10× multiplier of your baseform?

  • @mansajoka5390
    @mansajoka5390 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Burdock was a diamond in the rough and passed on his genes to goku

    • @johnmeehan7884
      @johnmeehan7884 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol no he wasn't, he was weak.

    • @quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
      @quedtion_marks_kirby_modding 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The point of goku is that he was normal/weak and become stronger and strlmger due to his life of training.

    • @kdrawbeats6941
      @kdrawbeats6941 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah he made a wish on his sons

    • @ZeroTaichi
      @ZeroTaichi 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johnmeehan7884 he was almost as strong as king vegeta, well after the zenkais that he got from dodorian, but still he was one of the top saiyans in the planet, and if we count Kakarot DLC, he had Nappa level before the zenkais, but since he was never was interested in control, he never tried to become a middle rank saiyan.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For some reason, krillon in the android saga, looks a little bit taller than he was in the sayian and Frieza saga

  • @rodseller9936
    @rodseller9936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Vegeta learned all his crap from Frieza.

  • @HQ_Default
    @HQ_Default หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea that the power boost given by a Zenkai being dependent on the person who wounded them makes the instance of Vegeta telling Krillin to blast him really funny actually. As that implies that despite all of his showboating and believing he finally became a Super Saiyan, he probably only got a tiny pip of power from that.

  • @staneroque517
    @staneroque517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Toriyama said that Nappa has Alopecia, the real life hair loss thing.

  • @allforone3427
    @allforone3427 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    27:30 Maybe it was a case where as a child he had a High Power Level, but it just never grew as he got older. At least not by much. Like a Baby being able to bench 20 (or in a case for Saiyans, 200,000) pounds is obviously impressive. But an adult benching that isn't really that jaw dropping.

  • @n0va794
    @n0va794 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Top notch stuff as always 🙌🏾

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really appreciate that

  • @vgiannell5
    @vgiannell5 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think you should do androids next. Mainly ones made by the Red Ribbon Army.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great suggestion!

  • @osirismoorstage2.1
    @osirismoorstage2.1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your theory of Nappa’s power level is incorrect. Goku was merely testing his battle strength, feeling out/ sparring with Nappa when fighting him. Kind of like the first few moments of Vegeta fighting base Goku

  • @vincentshadetree
    @vincentshadetree 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    19:44 Naw, I like Vegeta more than Goku, but I can also see that his royal arrogance was on full display in the earlier arcs, and had he not been so brash and impulsive, he could have been in more favorable situations.

  • @noriyakigumble3011
    @noriyakigumble3011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’ve always found the Saiyans as a concept extremely interesting from a narrative standpoint. I don’t think I can name a story that frames an entire race as simultaneously brutal conquerors with very little in the way of redeeming qualities while also being sympathetic as victims of empire who were colonized, subjugated, and ultimately exterminated by a more cruel force. This is made even more impressive by the fact that they never sacrificed the former perspective to achieve the latter; you legitimately feel sorrow for the Saiyans exterminated by Frieza, and you sympathize a bit with Vegeta at his death, but you also completely understand why Goku renounces them during the Saiyan Saga, and while Vegeta does improve as a person, he still carries in him the hubris and brutality of his heritage.
    A part of me wonders if it’s a classic case of Toriyamas improvisational plotting, or if it’s an actually poignant and nuanced point about colonialism and empire.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I would say it is a good commentary on colonialism, but not on purpose from AT's perspective. It's a really neat point on how, just because you're a subjugated people, it doesn't mean you're automatically morale.

    • @noriyakigumble3011
      @noriyakigumble3011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pooheadz189 I agree. While I do think Toriyama can be good at weaving consistent themes and points through his plots, some developments just accidentally mesh. You can read Vegetas plight as a nuanced message about colonialism; though it’s far more likely that Toriyama just wanted to make Vegeta more sympathetic for plot purposes.
      I will say though, and this may be projection on my end, I always interpreted the Saiyans to be a challenge to the readers on imperialism. If you can sympathize with the Saiyans; those bloodthirsty, elitist, backstabbing, callous, genocidal, selfish, monstrous Saiyans, and recognize their right for justice against Frieza and their right to freedom; then what does that say about the rest of the races under Friezas heel?
      Nobody deserves to be colonized and exterminated, not even the most vile of life.
      On that note, will you ever do a Video on the Frieza force or Friezas race? I’m especially interested in how Vegetas armor is called “Saiyan Armor” even though we see that it’s standard use for all of Friezas men. Reminds me of how the late Roman military would adopt Germanic symbols, weapons, and styles because Germans were stereotyped as “militant and scary” so the military adopted their look to intimidate foes.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree, it's super interesting. Also I will do videos on Frieza's race and the various aliens under his command at some point. Maybe later on in the summer after the Kais!

    • @pierregoku8209
      @pierregoku8209 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@noriyakigumble3011 i think Japan couln't care less about colonialism.
      But like you said Toriyama played It well with vegeta's redemption, specialy since he hated vegeta and made him as despicable as he could.
      Wich is why he's actualy my vavorite vilain.

  • @davidmccarthy4206
    @davidmccarthy4206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love your videos man, super well researched. I think it'd be great if you put what you're quoting/referencing on screen while talking about it though ! I find it frustrating to not be able to SEE the examples you're giving

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you so much!
      Could you give me examples? Like, do you mean the panel in the manga or the toriyama quotes? It's somewhat hard to do usually because a lot of it is from memory (though of course some is researched), and then I go double check stuff and write the script, and it's only after I finish everything else that I put the pics in and by then it's pretty difficult to go back for every quote in a 30 minute video haha.

    • @davidmccarthy4206
      @davidmccarthy4206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pooheadz189 Sure ! I listened to this yesterday so I can't recall all instances, but for example I remember that when you said "Vegeta killed Nappa in a ruthless fashion" I put up the screen to check, hoping to see the manga panel you were refering to, only to be disappointed. Same thing for the Saibamen video when you said "the Saibamen were pretty shaken when Vegeta threatened them", I did not have the image in mind and was hoping it'd be on screen. It's nothing major, and in both those instances it's manga panels that most fans would know (I havent read it in ages which is why I don't have them fresh in mind), but I think it woud do wonders for the quality of your video ! Thanks for the videos, they're great

  • @AllTheOthers
    @AllTheOthers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As saiyans do not stop growing they do not look old as soon as others.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I almost forgot to mention that the sayians when they took over planet plant they look very Neanderthal like since the very starting, and they have broad noses like Neanderthals have in real life and like Neanderthals, they were tough being

    • @commetsftw
      @commetsftw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      saiyans were space cavemen

    • @tyrannotherium7873
      @tyrannotherium7873 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ pretty much, but maybe they had a common ancestor with humans

  • @constantchanga
    @constantchanga หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nappa is depicted with hair in the original bardock movie/special

  • @shadowcatboy7852
    @shadowcatboy7852 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yay more db info! This is better than fandom!

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you!

  • @Iamgoat41
    @Iamgoat41 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genuinely lost my shit when you were talking about nappa's moustache. I was arguing with a friend about that glorious piece of face fuzz.

  • @peanheadm7883
    @peanheadm7883 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:14 its not kay-ohken. It is kaioken. As in, kaiosama or king kai

  • @shawnsouth327
    @shawnsouth327 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very entertaining and informative you earned my sub

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! Glad to have you

  • @peanheadm7883
    @peanheadm7883 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    20:45 a few ki acceptions?

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "key" exceptions

  • @VD_1738
    @VD_1738 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic vid, keep going this is absolutely some amazing content. You just got a new sub!

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @Shadowrulzalways
    @Shadowrulzalways 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goku between 12-15 was still short and wasn’t very “teen-like” until he was 18 during the Jr arc.

  • @walterbrink5391
    @walterbrink5391 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kakarot - carrot
    Vegeta - vegetable
    Raditz - radish
    Broly - broccoli
    Paragus - asparagus
    Kale - kale
    Kaulifla - cauliflower
    Cabba - cabbage
    Do the rest of the saiyan names have any correlation?

  • @Ishmaelgaynor
    @Ishmaelgaynor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The tail is usually three times
    Yamcha cut his tail
    Grandpa gohan cut his tail
    And Kami cut his tail Later on in life!

    • @georgefenrirtyson
      @georgefenrirtyson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grandpa Gohan ripped Goku's tail

  • @goodman4966
    @goodman4966 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great lore video man on the Saiyans that is very knowledgeable and you have only in 30 minutes short time you managed to cover a many aspects of their culture society and their worldview. Growing up and still now I still think the Saiyans are culturally evil is miniature actions until they start interacting with humanity on planet Earth mainly through (Vegeta who became a better man and a better person)they were not really good people even with the cultural differences they have to earthlings I still argue that they are fundamentally evil at least on a cultural level/societal levels.

  • @Jabby11
    @Jabby11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video bro keep up the good work

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Jab! That means a lot bro

  • @InfiniteStyler
    @InfiniteStyler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is too good of an informative video to come from a guy called Poo Head. Please please please change that sh1t

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw your recent comment. I apologize if it looked like I was making fun of you, I wasn't. But your comment popped up on a notif when I logged onto YT and it immediately made me laugh. That is one reason why I probably don't want to change it, because I honestly think it's funny when I get stuff like that. And you're probably right, at the end of the day. But I'm ok with that. If people want to not watch my stuff because they don't like the username, it's their loss. I've seen way worse usernames, but from long experience, people usually get used to it no matter what it is.
      I also took your comment as a compliment, because you said my vid was a good, informative video, so thanks for that.

  • @ZyrusSmith
    @ZyrusSmith หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video was too long. Halfway through it, I got hungry so I left it playing and went to the kitchen to fix myself a sandwich. But then I found out that I'm out of mayonnaise so I went to a store. There, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my whole life. But I'm a really shy person so I took up a three-year personality development course so I could introduce myself. She was very friendly and all, but unfortunately, she had a boyfriend. So I said, all good, I'm a mature person. I wanted the best for her and I harbored no illusion that I am the best person for her and she seemed happy with her boyfriend, so I didn't bother her anymore. But we kept in touch and we became friends and I got over my crush on her. Then she broke up with her boyfriend, we drank some alcohol because of it. I told her she'll be fine and I wished her well. I still think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, but like I said, I am over my crush on her. It was like five years already since I first saw her. Besides, I am quite happy with the friendship I developed with her. It was more important than a crush. So we kept hanging out, drinking, having coffee, and all. I had a girlfriend, she started dating other guys. My girlfriend wanted to live some other life without me in it, so I said, "Okay, I want the best for you and I want you to pursue your happiness." My lady friend and I drank alcohol about it, and she gave me the same advice I gave her when she was in that position and I became okay with the breakup immediately. But we were really drunk, so she spent the night in my apartment. I only have one bed, so you know what that means: She took the bed and I slept on the couch. But on the couch, I really can't sleep. Something was bothering me. So I tossed and turned for about three hours, then I finally couldn''t take it anymore, I stood up and went straight to my room where she's sleeping. I approached the bed, gently sat on it and I reached for her shoulder to pull her closer to me. She stirred and woke up. She asked what's up. I told her, "you know, the first time I saw you, I was watching a video and left it playing to get myself a sandwich then went to the store to get some mayo then I got so distracted by life that I forgot to finish the video." She said, "You know what, I've been wondering about a weird noise in your night drawer." So we opened that drawer, and lo and behold, there's my phone and this video still has two minutes of play time on it.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  หลายเดือนก่อน

      X to doubt

  • @nottheone3408
    @nottheone3408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Napa had hair in Dragon ball super broly. Also you make a really good point. I don’t think you can kill a marinated sayain by a body wound. Except future gohan maybe

  • @AllTheOthers
    @AllTheOthers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lmao where the hell is that from i love it 33:28

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's an edit my friend Dave has used as a pfp/avatar lmao

  • @Gokugrams_
    @Gokugrams_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this channel bro

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Late reply, but thank you!

  • @ndiaz1982
    @ndiaz1982 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't gokus tail grow back more than once?

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I talked about that in the pinned comment!

  • @salvadornavarromarttinen1857
    @salvadornavarromarttinen1857 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm pretty sure goku regrew his tail twice, first after yamcha cut it of and second was after grandpa gohan accidentally tore it off

  • @Quagula
    @Quagula 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    vegeta had a glorious moustache.

  • @KKano_Frost
    @KKano_Frost หลายเดือนก่อน

    They should do more with raditz

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For some reason, I always think that Goku and Vegeta they getting very stocky build. That’s why when you mention that they get taller I think they get more muscle mass as they get older and they trained but that’s just me though. I also think that pure blooded sayians get more than Zenkais because their bult for fighting as for train, ability and potential have sayians have the advantage as for the tails pure blooded sayians have tails, but half sayians don’t and I am aware that in the Saiyan saga gohan had to tell when he was a kid but that was a retcon since the interview the toriyama’s said that have sayians don’t have tails that’s why I do believe that pure blooded sayians get ssj4. It’s interesting that Nappa was a 4.000 but when he use the attack against Goku, it went up to 7000 only for a little bit like you mentioned

  • @britishkamikaze
    @britishkamikaze 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:27
    I don’t think Krillin was the one who stabbed him with the sword but other than that great video!!

  • @emilianozamora399
    @emilianozamora399 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the dbs broly movie gives many more details on saiyan life

  • @sfelton8943
    @sfelton8943 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we know what napa was gon do with those fingers

  • @mansajoka5390
    @mansajoka5390 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Radix has burdocks face with his own hair maybe from his moms side plus he’s taller then burdock but looks like him they start as lower class and look alike but raditz definitely must have been lazy his tail was a weakness and he had good talk game he was his own demise

  • @AlyxDerNarr
    @AlyxDerNarr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video but you didn't cover Shito, my favourite Saiyan. He's at least as important as Raditz.

  • @rayesemm
    @rayesemm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting that Vegeta never used the dragon balls to wish all the Saiyans back that Freeza killed.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't wish someone back if they've been dead over a year, at least with the earth's dragon balls.

  • @fangs111
    @fangs111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vegeta shaved in GT

  • @Allenryan819
    @Allenryan819 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dragon Ball, GT perfect files says that a mysterious race transported them, to planet plant but GT continuing being Cannon is very debated.

  • @nimbusnation9584
    @nimbusnation9584 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video....but what about Broly?

  • @20starcombomaker
    @20starcombomaker หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vegeta's head hair is brown

  • @SillyBanjo
    @SillyBanjo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only thing bad about this video is your name. Great vid, great narration. That username needs some work though homie😅. Keep making these though, they're really good.

  • @Incrementium
    @Incrementium หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:37 - This is just absolutely not true about wolves, and projecting bad understandings of animal science onto media just leads to bad assumptions. Wolves do in fact care for their injured and usually only don't if it directly hinders their survival. They even go so far as to mourn their dead, so they don't just callously disregard members of their group. Also the entire wolf pack "alpha/beta" stuff is bunk, the study it came from has flaws even the original author recognises and it's been thoroughly disproven. Most bad science with wolves revolved from a now disproven idea that packs dispersed in spring when the weather was good and only reformed leading into winter and thus had to re-establish pecking order. This has all been disproven with more research and data and it's now understood that wolf packs are ongoing family and social groups.

    • @pooheadz189
      @pooheadz189  หลายเดือนก่อน

      1) I mention they only won't help if it is a burden on survival
      2) I never said anything about alphas or betas
      3) True, they can mourn their dead, but it's not hugely widespread of a phenomenon

  • @vincentshadetree
    @vincentshadetree 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    29:50 I blame Krillin 🤣
    KJM Productions did a video about the arc, and said it: Krillin was sitting on murderous ass techniques and kept pulling them out too late 😂 Yamcha wouldn't be meme today if Krillin had just fired that scatter blast that took out almost all the Saibamen from the get go, lol.

  • @laxelford3533
    @laxelford3533 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its weird to consider what toriyama thinks and says then just ignore super.
    I get its not your cup of tea and i respect but if binged a few videos and a few things are just straight clarified or confirmed in it.
    Real question and im really not trying to come off as spiteful or anything.
    Do you just not consider it canon?

  • @brandeno919
    @brandeno919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruh if they make a DBZ movie they gotta have The rock to play nappa

    • @chibinya
      @chibinya 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah man, Rock not allowed to lose fights on-screen. He'd make Nappa the MC

  • @yousef-eq8zw
    @yousef-eq8zw หลายเดือนก่อน

    For 28 years ? How old r u

  • @Ersymondequartiere312
    @Ersymondequartiere312 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent work🎉❤!

  • @StinkySeaGoat
    @StinkySeaGoat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ……maybe I am a saiyan….

  • @NateBullock-ow6on
    @NateBullock-ow6on หลายเดือนก่อน

    That class system they had was bull crap Goku and his father blew that right out of the water

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is no canon in db

  • @BigBlack950
    @BigBlack950 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been Sayian all my life.🐉

  • @j.h-j5j
    @j.h-j5j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saiyans are like the Hulk. Strong, durable, the more you hit them, the sronger they become.

  • @lukethomasdillon3762
    @lukethomasdillon3762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im more a fan of the Z canon than the Super canon.
    I kind of view Super as an alternative story. Z Bardock is more my Bardock. I am really not a fan of the DBS retconning when it comes to the saiyans

  • @rancidiot
    @rancidiot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice name lol

  • @pierregoku8209
    @pierregoku8209 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was never said their tail only regrow once, it's just convenient for Toriyama to get rid of them sadly. In gt goku's got his 3 rd tail and i assume it would grow back by going ssj4 or just being exposed to full moon.
    Piccolo at 3500 and nappa at 4000? It must be some mistake, maybe i should rewatch og japanese dub i thought he'd be around 1500 max...idk👍
    Also Toriyama confirmed your growth theory in super hero movie.
    Edit: piccolo's pl is 1200/1400 and nappa at least 8000. Daisenshu etc are flat out wrong as they contradict real reading.

    • @pierregoku8209
      @pierregoku8209 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just wanted to say wolves actualy take care of their old parents, sayans are indeed evil.👍

  • @monteme4691
    @monteme4691 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Starts the video off “I’m the only one who knows things.” Continues with giving misconceptions and personal theories.

  • @herpderp9430
    @herpderp9430 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please…for the love of GOD, find a synonym for “remiss.” Did you just learn that word or something? 😂

  • @AllTheOthers
    @AllTheOthers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't call that head anymore doglike than I would call it apelike. That is an ape head. Not remotely canine.

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's exclusionary and racerist to not include every other group in a video about saiyajins!
    😂🤣😂

  • @juliusfishman7222
    @juliusfishman7222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do americans sayvthinks like 12 hundred , theres nothing like 12 hundrwd its one thousand two hundred jeez.