Rolex Submariner vs Homages $50 - $1000
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An epic like Ben Hur!! 36 minutes of bargain homage loving gold!
I had a lot of fun with this one. A few months in the making, gathering all of these in the one place, but worth it, I think.
Obviously, a $50 Invicta is only going to get you so close to a Subby, but how close? To be honest, I think the winner here today was the Phoibos, with the Ginault a different kind of second. At $299 the Phoibos is a good watch and does have a degree of similarity with the Roller. The Ginault is frighteningly close in some ways, and wears BETTER than the Roller, but it is over a grand. But when you get down to it, there is only one Rolex Submariner. Deservedly the King of Watches. Cheers, JOMW.
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The original submariner belongs to "Mr X", Jody's alternate ego to hide his expensive watch buys from his wife.
lmao oh my goodness this is good.
@peggy69peggy when you're married, there's no hiding expenses! :D
@@256k_ Agreed! No hiding anything. If you think you have secrets, you are soooo wrong. Thats why I use Invicta. I have to ask permission. I hate sleeping in the garage. LOL
Have you considered reviewing the hyakuichi 101 submarine obviously not the Rolex but it’s a nice watch for 150-180 aud can you give me an honest opinion of that watchive. No idea what the movement is though
My wife ask permission from me to buy things..I'm old school..
Hehehe...the "Rolex Experience."
You know, here at age 51 I have figured a few things out.
The first television I was old enough to remember in our family home was black and white. As a small child, I had no idea I "needed" color, until we got our first color TV.
Just ten years ago, when I bought my current home, I moved over my 36" old school "thick TV. It was only five years old at the time. I had no idea I "needed" LCD and HDTV until a few years later, when I walked through a damned Best Buy.
So, as of RIGHT NOW, I am sure I will be quite happy with my Steeldive 1953 Submariner...unless someone loans me a Rolex fora weekend. So here is my wish: I wish for every friend with a Rolex to keep them to themselves!!! The last thing I "need" is to find out I "need" a $30,000 watch!
Solid advice
Thanks for mentioning my channel and linking to the video I really appreciate it. Happy holidays buddy.
Would like to see a Steinhart 39mm
Such goodwill between watch channel youtubers, no rivalries just a shared love for timepieces! The Time Teller mentioned your channel in a live stream earlier today, paid respect to JOMW and its genuinely stand-up guy host.
Also missing: The infamous Perlative Ceronometer in a price slot to the left of all of the others
I got the gold one it's great haha
P Daddy I love my Perlative Cerenometer. The band I got for it cost twice it’s delivered cost.
Does it come in 40 mm? Mine were 43 mm and of the two, one had a broken quartz movement, the other a badly bent end link channel making for an impossible loose fit. Back in the day AliX would give you a refund.
You guys are starting to drift slowly under the wall.
there's a new one with a chernometer and it's from the year 8500
What an interesting comparison. I hardly dare spell it, for me personally, after the Rolex, the Phoibos is the clear winner here. Thanks!😎
Thirty seven minutes and it flew by. What a thoroughly enjoyable and informative vid; absolutely first class work.
Without doubt this is the best watch review channel on youtube. The effortless delivery style disguises somebody who is really on top of what they are doing. A class act. I love watching someone who clearly works really hard at their craft (whatever it might be) and then produces work like this. Every word, view counts. No superfluous bloody moozak, no wittering, no fake selling, just honest watch talk.
Keep it going because you are a delight to watch. Quality such as this is rare but much appreciated and 100k subscribers will soon be here and well deserved.
(The Cadisen Conquest by the way is running like a dream and the accuracy is PHENOMENAL. If it stays like this it will be the best thirty quid I have ever spent.Many thanks.)
Tip o' the hat Jody.
247k subscribers now mate haha
Hard not to like the Phoibos, but I am glad you mentioned the Steinhart. I know a number of people that love the Ocean One 39, and enjoy the subtlety smaller size.
I have the Ocean one 39mm "starbucks" (a colorway they released before Rolex oddly enough) and it is one of my keepers.
Terrific review! Packed with tons of educational content and thoroughly entertaining throughout. I bought the Phoibos after your original review of that watch, and I love to see it hold its own in this comparison. Thanks for all your hard work, Jody.
Excellent video Jody! Always enjoy watching one of your productions. Very informative and easy to follow.
It's overdue saying this but i love the lume comparison, showing how the lume behaves and fades over time.
A fantastic comparison review, Jody. I especially liked the side by side parts for each competitor with a suby.
As much as I dislike the Invicta, the Seiko NH35 in it is actually doing really well. The rate never varied by more than 2.4 seconds a day in your timing tests. It just needs to be slowed down a bit - you can screw the back off and do that pretty easily yourself. Back in 2008 I bought a Sandoz subbie from the Poor Mans Watch Forum. It was the Singapore version; had a sapphire crystal with cyclops and a Swiss ETA 2824-2 with incabloc, cost $US225 back then. Still runs great. Merry Christmas Jody and fans!
That Phoibos watch is the best homage
Just wanted to say that your watch videos are fantastic, interesting, and always entertaining. Thanks!
Owning two Rolex Submariners I can say the Ginault is the star of this group! Bracelet, case, dial, bezel movement and lume are close to Rolex, the unknown movement has worked wonderful for me. Ordered the Ginault when it first came out at a heavy discount just because I wanted to check it out and it's been great, I've even put the bracelet on my early 90's 16610 Sub for a few days and it fit perfectly! Another awesome review!
I have two color ways of a Nautis sunny homage that only cost me $50 each. They wear great and keep perfect time...because they have a quartz movement. I get more compliments on the green one, but I like the orange one too. No hassle, no worry about banging it around. I’m happy with them both, as well as their big brother chrono. And I absolutely love their stealth diver. It is beautiful!!!
The double Squale branding is really important though, there's a decent amount of history behind that! Loved this video: my intro to the world of watches was actually a two tone Invicta, now you shouldn't look at my bank balance!! Love it Jody, merry Christmas!
I converted my scalloped bezel Invicta 8926 to an Omega Planet Ocean homage by removing the Invicta logo from the case, replacing the dial, hands and bezel insert. Total cost of about $140 not including my labor. And I already owned the tools from many other mods.
Cyclops is easily removable with a second or two under a butane torch or a bit longer with a heat gun. Residual adhesive can be removed with a bit of acetone on a rag.
Great comparison, I was only able to get a hold of the Ginault and Steinhart. Pretty impressed with the quality on both.
This is a fantastic video. I loved seeing the comparison of these watches. Thank you Jody :)
We need more content in this price segment!
Thanks for the review! Although I am not a fan of the Mercedes hands, I admire Phoibos for having a bit of originality to their homage by having the framed date window instead of the cyclops magnifier. To eliminate so much or the weight, I'd pop it on a NATO strap.
I was very impressed with this review as you get into the details of movement, crystals, size, bracelets, lume and timekeeping, very good. Its interesting than you test the watches timekeeping using a winder, which isn't a real world comparison. It will be warmer on your wrist, will be kept fully wound all day, then will be left in a variety of possible positions, overnight, running down while it does that. I have a watch with a Seagull ST2130 movement in it (ETA 2824 clone) and it runs perfect all day (I regulated it myself), but will lose or gain up to 2 seconds overnight, depending on its orientation. Currently, if I wear it and leave it 3H overnight, it runs spot on. I bet any of these watches could be regulated to run nearly perfect, the variation seemed to be very consistent for all of them.
I have the Loreo homage piece and it came with an accuracy of 7.7 sec fast/day and for the easiest budget point, the Loreo is a great watch! For $70 delivered, it's a great nice looking budget watch that gets the job done. The movement is great so far! So glad you included this in your review! Thumbs up! BTW, my Loreo sub had settled to about 5.5 sec fast /day and it's been that way for over a month now, happy with it.
Steinhart Ocean One 39mm with white enamel engraved ceramic bezel insert would place right after Submariner or Squale/Ginault in my opinion. Its a step up from previous version, mine runs +/- 2 sec a day nearly from day one. Flawless.
I've got the Loreo Hulk myself. Had it since August. Still keeping good time, no issues. I paid £55 for it. I'm not going diving anytime soon, so the lack of lume pip didn't bother me too much. Overall I'm pretty happy with it for the money.
As for all the other homages in the video, I personally think that the Phoibos is the best value for money.
Great comment. I just pulled the trigger on one (USD $68).
Love the video, love the honesty, love the referral to other reviews... top notch mate!
PHOIBOS wins for me
asianskywalker Also for me. Hands down. Only minus is that stupid Octopus logo on the clasp, which makes it look cheap and silly.
Same here. Best $300 Rolex knock-off on the planet. I'll get a Phoibos and spend the rest of my money on futures commodities.
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Richard Minnick If you feel it’s a knock-off rather than an “homage”, why would you buy it? Then you might as well go full Monty and buy a normal fake.
Yup
Best value seems to be the Phoibos, have almost bought it before watching your good review, maybe I should have... But I bought a Steinhart instead, 39mm, and even it is not 40mm as you said, I would have been very interested to see it in this video because I am really amazed by the quality of this particular watch. Nice video, subscribed!
Thanks for that - great review. Would really love to see you give the Steinhart a good going over one day?
Nice video Jodie. I think re: accuracy you give a good indication however i think generally you need to wear them to get a genuine gauge on accuracy.
I watched your videos regarding the Invicta Pro Diver and because of your good recommendations, I bought a model 8932 (quartz) and hoped for the best! I had it now for about 6 months and only "fiddled" with the watch at the end of the month (when the date had to be chabged) and when we changed from "wintertime" to summertime and... In the whole period the watch was only 1 sec. out - and still is! Not daily, weekly or monthly, but during the whole period! It must be the best "low price" watch I've ever owned! Thanks for the great revue!
Ive yet to scratch any crystal on any of my watches. I enjoyed this video though as always! I can tell you about reliability of Invicta. AMAZING. Most of mine are over 6 years. No issues and far from disposable.
Great video as always Jody, this is a very helpful comparison for people that are looking for a submariner homage! You said you would do it before Christmas and you did! Thank you so much!
Very good video, well done. I actually have the Steinhart Ocean One 42 mm and I can tell you that I'm very happy with it. Design and quality wise I would prefer it over the Ginault (for half the price), over the Phoibos and certainly over the Squale (which seems to be of less quality in comparison). Really a very good Homage and perfect everyday watch for 1/20 of the Rolex price.
Great video. Phoibos is almost perfect. I like the Octopus logo, only thing missing is the raised round pip in the bezel. That detail would truly make the Phoibos the perfect homage.
Thanks for the review. I bought the Phoibos PY007 based on your video review of it. I'm glad I did. It's a great watch.
I did exactly the same thing. Bought the Phoibos after seeing the JOMW review. One of my best purchases and favorites in my collection.
Same here mate , what do you think of NTH ? Kind of my current grail watch , I'm a mrCheepo .
What is your favorite value for money? Thank's
Where did You buy it? Cant find it anywhere? Best Regards jesper 😃
Great video, well done! Appreciate the shout out and congratulations on 50K subs!!!
24Hours At A Time love the shout out to Oleg! Two best watch channels on TH-cam.
Yes, Two great channels and I also love PERTH WATCH too.
Thank you for making this video. You are truly a pioneer. Fantastic video.
Just to add a little. I'm using loreo sub for last 2 years and the movement is really good, doesn't dance around when setting time and about a minute gain per week and still got around 40 hours power reserve. But i miss hi-beat and lume, the second hand feels much smoother and attractive in 28800bph.
I had a Squale 1545 (green one). The bracelet was nice, and the movement felt good to wind. Mine did not have the cyclops though. I did sell it at a profit. I also purchased from Gnomen (great shop, I highly recommend them and Seiya Japan). It felt considerably better that a similarly-priced Seiko.
Interesting video. Think I will stick to my tried and tested Invicta. I have no issues with the movement, nor do I have a mouse in the middle of it. With the exception of the Phiobos none of the other watches featured are enticing me for their price point.
The Loreo looks like a great deal, I'm thankful you brought it to my attention!
€70 shipped right now it seems, lots of color options. I may well consider it as my next step after the
Thanks a lot for this review :) Ordered my PHOIBOS ;)
Man!!! Wow superb video amazing comparison
Excellent video. I liked the rhythm and the close-ups.
Thanks mate!
Great review on this topic!
Recently bought a Parnis sub and am very happy with it, ticks all the boxes for my price range. That Ginault is a beautiful looking watch; I think for similar money I'd be tempted by the Yema Superman Heritage though ;)
I have had a Squale for Y1545 for 6 years and just had it serviced. It’s running -2 secs a day. I highly suggest it for a great first Swiss made watch.
I’ve had a Squale 1545 GMT for about 2 years & it runs -3 sec/day! It’s a great watch.
Do a review on the Didun Royal Oak Homage!!!
Super happy with my phoibos! I have exact same model as you! Big fan! Happy holidays to you sir!
WINNER Phoibos.. Merry Christmas chums
Another GREAT/ INFORMATIVE video, and thanks to the fine job you do This Christmas I am celebrating the 1 year birthday of my Phoibos (blue dial) dive watch...LOVE IT!!!!
I do wish you had included the Casio Duro Marlin ($38.00 USD on Amazon) cause(minus the lume) it is a ton of watch for very little $$$.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.
Keep the videos coming 😁
Great video, very informative
Phoibos all the way. No cyclops and I quite like the octopus!
How do you figure out what to set a watchwinder at? I've been looking all over.
Love your reviews! Never miss one :)
Fab channel. Well done & happy Xmas 'Scotty'😉
Phoibos > Squale. Excellent video sir!
Great comparison. I’ll keep my Phoibos. Merry Christmas!!
The Phobios has such good performance because the movement inside is the Miyota 9015, which is an awesome high-beat (8 ticks per second) automatic. I absolutely love the Miyota 9xxx series, I have a genuine Bulova 96C142 with a 9110 (day date, 24h and power reserve indicator) that gets accuracy of 1-2 seconds per day. Currently looking for another watch with one :)
Finally, I have found a watch channel that is down to earth
Another fantastic video. Wow, that Squale for a brand known for their casing, that finishing is unacceptable.. especially when compared to the Invicta with an already lousy case brush. The Phoibos punches way above it's price point!
I have the Squale and I am a big fan of the brand. I also have the Ceramic GMT, and the blue dual 50 Atmos. I must admit that you have sparked my curiosity in the Ginault.
Smile dial style, my new favourite word combination.
I think I’ll be picking up the Phoibos! Very handsome watch, with great lume.
magic tricks I have the quartz version. It has a great bracelet and is one of my favorite watches. I’m going to put it on a Bonetto Cinterini rubber band and should get an effect very similar to the Squale 1521.
My Invicta 8926OB ran for almost 10 years as my daily driver before it began to became erratic to the point I didn’t trust it anymore. I have tons of memories I collected while wearing it and I plan on doing a sapphire to replace the beaten and chipped mineral crystal and I have another new nh35 movement in my desk waiting for the mood to strike me to tinker with it.
Great video as always Jody (sp?). Superb 2018 on the channel, all the best for 2019.
Jody, it just demonstrates I am both dim and cheap. A function of being a geezer I suppose. You are producing fantastic videos and I have been watching for nearly all of 2018. Best wishes for the new year!
Thanks mate!
It would be interesting if you could do a head to head between the Squale 1545 and Steinhart Ocean One 39.
Jody, maybe it's the giant Fosters Beer talking, but this vid was a total gem. I'll bet you don't even realize what a great job you did on it. I'd buy you an Iron City (our local beer in Pittsburgh, PA) if you were even close to this continent. Thank you.
I respect you because you are the most open minded watch enthusiast on yt
Great review. I have an old Invicta, but hardly wear it. Might have to tey a PY007
Nice Abbey Road tee btw ,My late Dad is on the original album cover in the distance in his red and gold milk float
Just rewatched this video and that Mickey Invicta is classic. I had no choice but to buy one!
We need an updated version of this vid!
I personally think value for money the Phobios does very well.
The Ginault with no cyclops looks great.
Well its a pleasure to say this video is superb! I have been enjoying the Phoibus and its perfect for me.
Merry Christmas and happy New Year
Great video and review.
Really considering trying the Loreo. It's the best cheap homage I've seen in all my research. If the first one I get does well, I'll buy the green and blue one, too.
Love your videos. Was wondering if you would turn that comp vid into a triple with the Loreo vs invicta vs the new starking sub I recently saw on AliExpress?!
That can be arrnaged mate..... Cheers!
The Squale and the Ginault are both outstanding, the Ginault being the superior of the two. I personally love the no date of the Ginault but the date complication on the Squale is extremely well done. Good review. Wish I could afford the Rolex.
Great reviews much enjoyed by someone who hadn't worn a watch for over thirty years up until a month ago and is now obsessed ...and the reassuring tones of a Scots accent to boot :-)
Thumbs up again.
I own 2 Invicta homages, both are fantastic watches that are great quality. I can care less about the billboard on the side of the case or the Invicta logo, it's a good solid watch.
Jody, it might be fun to build up a Seiko suby homage, of course the obvious slights would be the clasp, bracelet etc. But the lum would easily compete with the Roli😉, and building one to your spec would be fun!
I love how all of your watches in the background are each fighting for attention xD
Congratulations for the channel. You should include in the comparision the OceanX 600 Sharkmaster
Love my steinhart! 4 years going strong in the collection
I figured I’d test it out so I picked up the Phiobos quartz and love it in fact I will probably get the auto now it’s a really nice watch for the price.
I love my PHOIBOS. - My local watch dealer (suburbs of Philadelphia) just got a used Submariner, completely restored and serviced. $12,999. He will not budge from that price. And yes he knew all the other dealers in the northeast that had them as well. A truly coveted combination of art and science.
I ordered the tisell with the date. I thought for 230 was a great price with shipping. I will have to wait a few weeks I think. Mail is super slow this time of year. The PHOIBOS is 70 USD more. Same movement I think. Both 28,800 VPH.Was a hard decision really. Thanks for the review. Nothing really is going to beat the real Rolex submariner but most people it is out of reach and probably why these homage watches do so well. Ginault I took a look at was 1500.00 USD. Before a discount. Congratulations on 50K subscribers!!
Parnis/Bliger uses the newer beefy lug style cases. That would be a good one to add to you approx $100 priced offerings.
Which one is the lightest .and smallest. ( small wrist ).
Thanks
Great videos
But where's the Tevise T801?
Interesting comparison. But I miss San Martin here.
My Seiko SKA371 has a bit of Submariner in the design. I really love it - especially as it's discontinued now. It makes it that little bit more special.
Pls make a Rolex Daytona ( Paul Newman ) Daytona Homage comparison video
Love all of your videos and watch each and every one of them !!
Keep it up ❤️