@@StoonCoold True. Lars really need his classic df2 back tho. Just that move alone is what made Lars so good imo. Not a huge fan of Lars but that doesn't change that fact that is a mishima and I love all mishimas. Even if Lars is a terrible character in T7.
I love Jin's playstyle. You get the fun Mishima stuff whilst being able to harass with pressure strings, punish every unsafe move. Me oh my, what a character, so fun to play
The End oF Mike that move existed since t4 but in t5 dr it reached its peak by launching when doing ewhf tekken 6 still had the d 1+2 from certain moves tekken tag 2 had d 1+2 aswell but only for 1 move so it bece completely useless
It's been a long time coming (12 yrs). I guess it was worth the wait. The wait is finally over. Playing Jin in Tekken is basically a tradition for me. I gotta keep the tradition going.
true i started with jin since t5. his evolution was long but deserved after this long wait. still remember playing in t6 as Jin against steves bobs and lars. that was a nightmare at times. in ttt2 he was top 10 i believe... at least top 15 his b2,1 was actually better then his t7 counterpart . good for walltravel and catching backrolls etc. T7 Vanilla Jin was really good. not s tier but close..... and since season 2 well we all know how good he is and keep up those videos TMM. i love seeing old tekken again
This guy does not get enough credit husband a dad plus a student and tier listing Tekken games that no one in this planet are playing anymore come on this needs to be a Netflix show 😂
This is standard practice with namco though, when a new character (in this case moveset) comes out, they make sure it's busted then the big nerf comes. They've done this with most new characters, infact i think Murray once said that they do it on purpose so people give the new characters a chance as it's more likely for someone to try a character if they're op. Sometimes the characters aren't op but strong and then get nerfed anyway even though it's not needed.
I was about to say the same thing. A lot of ppl complain that Julia’s broken in Tekken 7 because of her combo damage and wall carry being better than ever before. What they don’t realize a lot of her pokes and mixups got nerfed in T7. She was goddess tier in Tekken 5 DR & 6.
I didn't play much tekken, didn't know what a tier list was since I was a child. Played Jin then vs the Hwoarang of my brother, it was really fun but yeah I felt like I only could use 3 moves and that Jin was slow as hell, thought this was to compensate the fact he did a bit more damage with some attacks, but yeah the struggle was real. Never dropped the character, but I just played tekken 3D, 5 and 7.
I started playing Jin in T5, when maining him and winning with him in the arcades earned you respect instead of disdain. T5 Jin was crap but fun. T5DR Jin was crap but was at least now winnable. T6 Jin was really fun to play because he was simple, straightforward and balanced. TTT2 Jin was strong, but still pretty balanced considering the BS that other characters were capable of. The one thing I loved about these iterations of Jin was that he was his own character and he was not meant to be played like the other Mishimas, or any other character. He was a frametrap, poke and punish based character in games where juggles were the norm. He didn't require godly execution to win. It fit quite well with his lore too. The T7 Jin is the strongest he's ever been without being broken, but now he is a Mishima through and through. I'm sure others love him now, or love him still, and I perfectly respect their opinions and tastes, but for me, T7 Jin isn't as fun for me as the previous Jins were. T7 Jin feels like a friend who I've been with for so long, but grew into a different person that everybody else liked but I didn't know him anymore.
@@fitzarc5803 Mishima's themselves are different from each other. They just share a few key moves but their playstyles differ. You CAN play Jin like a Mishima but his Mishima toolset is weaker than an actual Mishima. Why play jin if you're going to solely use the Mishima playstyle. Jin is a jack of all trades meaning he does everything pretty damn good. But there's always something someone can do better than him. Except Gigas
@Tcb bct False man, im way not enlightened when it comes to jin. Jin is a jack of all trades character. Meanning he's good at everything but a master of none. Which is why he's so good cause he doesn't really have a whole lot of weaknesses. The weaknesses that he does have can be negated if the player is strong enough. Jin being a jack of all trades has Mishima abilities but they're not as good as Heihachi's, DVJ or Kazuya.
Where is the blue mental alertness that they buffed in this game?! How could you forget about it TMM? New strings and having a launching EWHF in general is amazing.
i‘m late but jin was pretty strong in this game mainly because of his „lingering omen stance“ which was accessed trough power stance by inputing d,u,b,f in this stance you had access to a jf launching whf a jf hellsweep a jf 8 hit kazama combo that did quite the damage
PLEASE MainManSWE, can you review and go over the golden trash can that is T6......I feel like we need to really be schooled on the odd feeling gameplay and combos
Tekken 7 was my first game and now Tekken 6 is the one I haven’t played (I played the older games using an emulator except for TTT2, which I just played on PSNow).
One of my favourite videos, last night 4 and 5 jinn was sent to me to “help" me with information to run skeletor and his minions so we could complete the trilogy. I have to give it to you, Dajjaal has thought of every possible scenario. Lol
Lel the whole reason i mained Jin cuz of martial arts. I learnt tekken properly at 5, and found out Jin was uh... Not good. At all. But eh i sticked with him cuz of his animation looking like a realistic martial arts. Hell i learnt kyokushin and judo cuz of Jin :P
Ive been a Jin Main since T3 which is when I really got into Tekken. I had no idea he was that bad in T5, I still mained him and got my ass whooped a lot.
I'm a rare example of a person who started his Tekken experience from Tekken 5 (well, technically from T3, but I was not really into this) and was a Jin main. But since I did not play T4 I was completely unaware of his power in that game. So, playing T5 I had a feeling he's somewhere below good but still made him work. Learnt about Jin's T4 dominance years later.
I didn't play too much jin in tt2 but he's one of my mains now. I'd say his electric now launches (doesn't need counter hit). His zen 3 makes his f+4 much easier to juggle with. His hop kick is buffed in the same way as his electric. His throw game is better due to him still having a 1 or 2 throw break. Finally, his juggles are much better now. I could be wrong but I think these make him much stronger already.
Diddle n Fiddle T7 Jin is balanced but he has a decent juggle and it all ends with a wall carry so it deals extra damage so expect a Jin with wall a normal combo deals more than 50% always. His poke game is amazing and safe.
Hello MainMan ! Can you also make videos on Tekken 3, the best selling game in the history of Tekken ever ? You can do it after your T5DR but I would request you to do it before you start with T6. Thank you. #Maska!
I know this is gonna get lost in a sea of comments but fuck it. T5DR was my welcoming door to the tekken franchise. Jin was my literal go to main even when I kept seeing on the internet that he was bad and cant deny now when I take frames into the equation. Yeah he was bad, but back then I didnt use any of his key tools it was me spamming forward 4 because the ai would just keep rushing even on ultra hard. Tekken 6 when I bought around 4 years ago from this year (yes I know late as ever) I took him a bit seriously and I did noticed he was getting better. Then when I went to TT2 dear god idk what happened but he became unfamiliar but also kinda strong but I still lose due to my lack of executions. Finally Tekken 7 holy shit I love playing Jin my maim since I was 12 to now I have seen his buffs and that makes me happy
wait, SWE doesn't know why 2,4 got changed? in T5, 2,4 gave a knockdown where jin could dash up D4. if the opponent tried to tech, jin could df1 which landed in the opponent's back, and then do cancans. either way, 2,4, dash d4 was way too strong for such a simple punish.
This is how i felt about Lars, he's being punished for Tekken 6 lol
Hopefully it doesn't take 12 years for Lars to get back to top tier. Hell, mid tier lars would still be better than how he is today.
@@SS_Sin_Of_Pride If he can just be mid tier I'd be happy.
@@JoniTsunami88 Exactly. I feel like Lars belongs in mid tier. We can only wait to see if he gets buff in S3. That is, if we GET a season 3.
He's being punished for both T6 and TTT2
@@StoonCoold True. Lars really need his classic df2 back tho. Just that move alone is what made Lars so good imo. Not a huge fan of Lars but that doesn't change that fact that is a mishima and I love all mishimas. Even if Lars is a terrible character in T7.
I love Jin's playstyle. You get the fun Mishima stuff whilst being able to harass with pressure strings, punish every unsafe move. Me oh my, what a character, so fun to play
The legacy of Jin's tier list placements is his recovery from drug abuse
Gold comment. He's a better man today.
Lol haha heroin addict that's why he is always edgy af cause of the Mishima Revelations
Those Just Frame drugs, man
I remembered jin's secret move b1+2 to d,u,b,f in this game and it blew my mind. I remember it was demon omen stance or something.
Yeah that was cool because it used to give you old T4 hell sweep which doesn't stagger on block.
The End oF Mike that move existed since t4 but in t5 dr it reached its peak by launching when doing ewhf
tekken 6 still had the d 1+2 from certain moves
tekken tag 2 had d 1+2 aswell but only for 1 move so it bece completely useless
It's called Soul Rage
Been a Jin main from day one
Same
Same since Tekken 5
That's not day one then, moron. Jin debuted in tekken 3.
@@doublem1975x i meant day one i ever played Tekken 🤣🤣🤣 my bad lmaooo
@@LKRG rough world out here for jin mains
I feel like this is what Lars mains in T6 are getting right now lol
guess they'll be waiting a decade lol
So lars will be S tier in 2031
not anymore lol
It's been a long time coming (12 yrs). I guess it was worth the wait. The wait is finally over. Playing Jin in Tekken is basically a tradition for me. I gotta keep the tradition going.
Same here. I've mained Jin since Tekken 3, never breaking that "habit" anytime soon.
Why do I crack up when he says "MainManSWE"
Turn on subtitles for a bigger laugh.
"My mom's we open"
12 years is a long time.
f4 FTW
Wow didn't know any of this stuff about Jin. I just thought he looked cool so i played with him.
thats why I main him haha
Yep lol
Most likely the origin story for all Jin mains.
true i started with jin since t5. his evolution was long but deserved after this long wait.
still remember playing in t6 as Jin against steves bobs and lars. that was a nightmare at times.
in ttt2 he was top 10 i believe... at least top 15 his b2,1 was actually better then his t7 counterpart . good for walltravel and catching backrolls etc.
T7 Vanilla Jin was really good. not s tier but close..... and since season 2 well we all know how good he is
and keep up those videos TMM. i love seeing old tekken again
t7 vanilla jin uf2 launched loool
vanilla jin was defo s tier
unless ur talking about season 1 jin ?
@@jokauk4995 yeah sure. :D sry for the little mistake there
I enjoy playing ttt2 Jin waaaay more than T7 Jin
I dunno but his moves just feel more chunky
can't wait for the tekken 6 stuff!
Holy Shit the Main Man SWE is even Amazing at making charts i can watch you all day just talking about Tekken tier list
GET THIS MAN A JOB IN CHARTMAKING
I feel exactly the same way, these character breakdowns are so enjoyable to binge watch. This could be a Netflix series haha
This guy does not get enough credit husband a dad plus a student and tier listing Tekken games that no one in this planet are playing anymore come on this needs to be a Netflix show 😂
Cool video. Would like to see you do a Jin breakdown in Tekken 3 and TTT1!
I still like Jin in Tekken Games!
You know i was waiting for this Mainman, thank you for delivering.
Make a video about king in tekken 3/4 until 7
I don't care what you use it for but use your whiteboard drawing thing more
nobody:
TMM: "the combu es no hard. is bcuz utube"
Lmfao
"bcuz i'm on pad" lol
MASKU
Really good video, he's slightly better than T5 vanilla 🐦
Hi.
Bring us some Tekken 3 content 😁
Please
That would be neat, but the game isn't that relevant competitively since there's a bunch of super broken stuff.
@@davetorres3906 Mind mentioning any of those? I'm quite interested.
@@FahmiZFX the spammable unli skills
Can't wait for T6 breakdowns. I`ve really really been enjoying these videos.
Been with his since Tekken 3
Jin main since tekken 5. Picked him bcs he’s a fellow Kyokushin practitioner, never for the tier placement
Will you make Videos about tekken 3?
Thx so much for this content, i was really waiting for it, loving those breakdown videos a lot.
Ive been a Jin main since 1997 Jun main since Tekken 2
This is standard practice with namco though, when a new character (in this case moveset) comes out, they make sure it's busted then the big nerf comes.
They've done this with most new characters, infact i think Murray once said that they do it on purpose so people give the new characters a chance as it's more likely for someone to try a character if they're op.
Sometimes the characters aren't op but strong and then get nerfed anyway even though it's not needed.
Jin's ch 4 was a launcher even in season 1(b2,1 4 followup)
only if you traded with a jab right ?
You could also swl and do 2,4 to get a screw
Talk about how godlike T5DR Julia was! ff1 that knocks down, and wallsplatting bow & arrow!
I was about to say the same thing. A lot of ppl complain that Julia’s broken in Tekken 7 because of her combo damage and wall carry being better than ever before. What they don’t realize a lot of her pokes and mixups got nerfed in T7. She was goddess tier in Tekken 5 DR & 6.
Julia peaked in tag 1 her damage output was crazy and she was so safe, They had to basically remake her after T4 gutted her.
@The King of Iron Fist Was she S tier in tag 2? She was a beast in Tag 1 top 5 I feel with Jin, Kaz, Devil and Ogre.
guys in case MainMan forgot to mention during the video he is in fact recording for youtube
Great video again! I think the quality if these are really good!
I didn't play much tekken, didn't know what a tier list was since I was a child. Played Jin then vs the Hwoarang of my brother, it was really fun but yeah I felt like I only could use 3 moves and that Jin was slow as hell, thought this was to compensate the fact he did a bit more damage with some attacks, but yeah the struggle was real. Never dropped the character, but I just played tekken 3D, 5 and 7.
I started playing Jin in T5, when maining him and winning with him in the arcades earned you respect instead of disdain. T5 Jin was crap but fun. T5DR Jin was crap but was at least now winnable. T6 Jin was really fun to play because he was simple, straightforward and balanced. TTT2 Jin was strong, but still pretty balanced considering the BS that other characters were capable of. The one thing I loved about these iterations of Jin was that he was his own character and he was not meant to be played like the other Mishimas, or any other character. He was a frametrap, poke and punish based character in games where juggles were the norm. He didn't require godly execution to win. It fit quite well with his lore too.
The T7 Jin is the strongest he's ever been without being broken, but now he is a Mishima through and through. I'm sure others love him now, or love him still, and I perfectly respect their opinions and tastes, but for me, T7 Jin isn't as fun for me as the previous Jins were. T7 Jin feels like a friend who I've been with for so long, but grew into a different person that everybody else liked but I didn't know him anymore.
How is Tekken 7 Jin a Mishima. He plays so different from them to me
@@ldking5132 yeah so different
@@fitzarc5803 Mishima's themselves are different from each other. They just share a few key moves but their playstyles differ. You CAN play Jin like a Mishima but his Mishima toolset is weaker than an actual Mishima. Why play jin if you're going to solely use the Mishima playstyle. Jin is a jack of all trades meaning he does everything pretty damn good. But there's always something someone can do better than him. Except Gigas
@@ldking5132 exactly, i tried playing Jin like a mishima and it didn't work out well because he is his own character
@Tcb bct False man, im way not enlightened when it comes to jin. Jin is a jack of all trades character. Meanning he's good at everything but a master of none. Which is why he's so good cause he doesn't really have a whole lot of weaknesses. The weaknesses that he does have can be negated if the player is strong enough. Jin being a jack of all trades has Mishima abilities but they're not as good as Heihachi's, DVJ or Kazuya.
Nice too see tmm getting more subs!
Where is the blue mental alertness that they buffed in this game?! How could you forget about it TMM? New strings and having a launching EWHF in general is amazing.
It's a shame d/f+3 has no pushback on block, because the juggles you can get off of that look sweet.
They need to bring back some of the classic stages from previous games!
This is my favorite stage from DR. Should've brought this back instead of Dragon's Nest.
I love these revisit vids, im probably not gonna revisit DR at all, ill stick to regular TK5’s brokeness for nostalgic reasons lol
my DR sparring partner used jin like CMB uses him now, but with more 2,1 and iws2. jin didn't have a problem in T5, just others were stronger.
i‘m late but jin was pretty strong in this game mainly because of his „lingering omen stance“
which was accessed trough power stance by inputing d,u,b,f
in this stance you had access to
a jf launching whf
a jf hellsweep
a jf 8 hit kazama combo that did quite the damage
Tcb bct yup thanks
if you don‘t mind ill add it to edit
Without the tekken hit effects it gives the game a DoA look
And it's amazing
Definitely
What about Marduk? Wasn't he the worst in 4, and the best in 7? Didn't he get better each game as well?
My first game was T5DR
so I'm used to Jin being mid tier.
Must be bad for people who used to play him in S tier to adjust tho.
3:01 the trick is when you do df2 you can still do d2 because of the animation
مافهمت
@@Quran_eee اضرب df2 بعدها d2 تجي
Would be cool to see more videos about the tag games
PLEASE MainManSWE, can you review and go over the golden trash can that is T6......I feel like we need to really be schooled on the odd feeling gameplay and combos
Tekken 7 was my first game and now Tekken 6 is the one I haven’t played (I played the older games using an emulator except for TTT2, which I just played on PSNow).
jin, hwo, steve, kaz main since t4
One of my favourite videos, last night 4 and 5 jinn was sent to me to “help" me with information to run skeletor and his minions so we could complete the trilogy. I have to give it to you, Dajjaal has thought of every possible scenario. Lol
Lel the whole reason i mained Jin cuz of martial arts. I learnt tekken properly at 5, and found out Jin was uh... Not good. At all. But eh i sticked with him cuz of his animation looking like a realistic martial arts. Hell i learnt kyokushin and judo cuz of Jin :P
Imagine waiting since Tekken 2 for your character to be good, then they win 1 tournament in T7 and get nerfed (Panda main)
Chill voice ♡
Ive been a Jin Main since T3 which is when I really got into Tekken. I had no idea he was that bad in T5, I still mained him and got my ass whooped a lot.
I'm a rare example of a person who started his Tekken experience from Tekken 5 (well, technically from T3, but I was not really into this) and was a Jin main. But since I did not play T4 I was completely unaware of his power in that game. So, playing T5 I had a feeling he's somewhere below good but still made him work. Learnt about Jin's T4 dominance years later.
Actually never played tekken 4 but i picked up jin in T6.
Jin blade kick from T4 and 5 need to come back the way it was.
How do you get to practice mode in Tekken 5 DR? I have DR but I don't see Dr in the main menu
Yep we suffered like that just like how jin suffered too in his story
his hands looks so big from T5 to DR
I don't want to hear about Jin players. I main yoshimitsu and I'm still waiting for a game where he's better than mid-tier.
@The King of Iron Fist people say he is bottom tier in 7 and he was in 6 as well. he was slightly better in tag2 and 1
He is easily mid-tier in tekken 7 now he got buffed a lot, but still very underrated
every tier list everyone says hes bottom tier never see him higher than like 6th from last
He was really good in T3 and tag 1, Not top tier but definitely a force to be reckoned with.
@@DayFul actually agree with you haha
Tekken tag 1 content
Let's talk about how long hwoarang mains have been punished next. And for no reason lol
Wait what about his reign of terror in Tekken 3 and Tag Tournament 1(yeah back then he was closer to devil jin but still)
Tag 1 Jin had everything but an 8 frame jab he was ridiculous.
It’s the devil gene’s fault it took most of Jin’s strength
tekken 3 analysis please mainman
But tag2 Jin felt stronger to me. How is T7 Jin better?
I didn't play too much jin in tt2 but he's one of my mains now.
I'd say his electric now launches (doesn't need counter hit). His zen 3 makes his f+4 much easier to juggle with. His hop kick is buffed in the same way as his electric. His throw game is better due to him still having a 1 or 2 throw break. Finally, his juggles are much better now.
I could be wrong but I think these make him much stronger already.
Diddle n Fiddle thanks for the info
Diddle n Fiddle T7 Jin is balanced but he has a decent juggle and it all ends with a wall carry so it deals extra damage so expect a Jin with wall a normal combo deals more than 50% always. His poke game is amazing and safe.
@@ajye8935 Was his poke game not too good in tt2?
Hello MainMan !
Can you also make videos on Tekken 3, the best selling game in the history of Tekken ever ? You can do it after your T5DR but I would request you to do it before you start with T6. Thank you. #Maska!
Everyone was a Jin fan since Tekken 3🔥
I know this is gonna get lost in a sea of comments but fuck it. T5DR was my welcoming door to the tekken franchise. Jin was my literal go to main even when I kept seeing on the internet that he was bad and cant deny now when I take frames into the equation. Yeah he was bad, but back then I didnt use any of his key tools it was me spamming forward 4 because the ai would just keep rushing even on ultra hard. Tekken 6 when I bought around 4 years ago from this year (yes I know late as ever) I took him a bit seriously and I did noticed he was getting better. Then when I went to TT2 dear god idk what happened but he became unfamiliar but also kinda strong but I still lose due to my lack of executions. Finally Tekken 7 holy shit I love playing Jin my maim since I was 12 to now I have seen his buffs and that makes me happy
Please do tekken 3 content as well.
Yes, I main jin and it was painfull af, even the electric in t4 was better than the one in t5.
Hey does anyone know the benefit of delaying a combo? Why, if it is guaranteed, would you want to delay the second hit? Or am i completely mistaken
If you whiff the first hit you might still be able to counter your opponent's attack if you mess with the timing on the last hit.
Make a video about Doctor B from tekken 3!
now i want see king video i mean video about king
I didn't care I played Jin regardless
Tekken 3 jin is a s tier character
I love jin
❤️❤️❤️ Tekken real poster boy
How about a lili review? Because she also is a new character on t5 dr
12 years... that's almost as long as Jin's f4.
If we're talking having to climb back up, wouldn't it make more sense to punish Kazuya 😎👉👉
wait, SWE doesn't know why 2,4 got changed? in T5, 2,4 gave a knockdown where jin could dash up D4. if the opponent tried to tech, jin could df1 which landed in the opponent's back, and then do cancans. either way, 2,4, dash d4 was way too strong for such a simple punish.
Lars mains waiting for Tekken 10
Even with his nerfs, Jin has always been a relatively op character. But that's just my opinion
What about Tekken 3?
He was strong in Tekken 3, too.
Hopefully leroy and fahkumram paid the price.
Tekken 3 gameplay?
I'm assuming that's how they are planning with Lars *hehe*
and now jin is being punished again because of him
Hehe, I never dropped Jin at his weakest period like all those fake Jin fans did
The 💪 is on the hood
Season 3: its free real state
Top 5 OP characters for each game?
Is this on emulator? Looks so good
RPCS3
has options to reach 4K resolution
making the shitty looking PS3 Tekken 6 look as good as T7
@@GORO911 Tekken 6 doesn't lool TERRIBLE. The game came out ten years ago afterall
In Tekken 8 he pay again.
Fresh comment for 2020
12 Years for Jin to reach S tier?! woah
No 12yrs to return to s tier
S tier can kiss my ass-rangchu
but devil jin was strong as conpensation for jin right
Not for Jins new karate style