Grab a GN Modmat or Mouse Mat here: store.gamersnexus.net/ We reviewed a disappointing Dell GPU here: th-cam.com/video/HFaJZq13tr8/w-d-xo.html Dell made a good PSU, though, and you can find our review of it here: th-cam.com/video/r7hNmuizMB8/w-d-xo.html And it made one of the worst pre-builts we've ever seen, the G5 5000: th-cam.com/video/4DMg6hUudHE/w-d-xo.html And Lenovo gave Dell competition for bottom of the pre-built barrel, which you can see here: th-cam.com/video/S_b0ndn5oIg/w-d-xo.html
Tell me tell me...did a better power supply help my 3080 run better? PNY XLR8 Revel Epic-X (1440-1710) Originally with a TT "tough" 750w gold. It topped at 1995MHz. It was stable at 2200 with Afterburner but I don't do that often. Had it for a few months, never saw it go higher on it's own. Recently got the newest Corsair RM1000x. Beefier cables come with it. I wanted my draw to stay nearer the 50% area. Then I noticed my card was running at 2050MHz and I had to check and make sure I hadn't left Afterburner boosting it. Nope. I've seen it hit 2100 now "out of the box".
Dell have always been hit or miss, I bought a second hand optiplex and it is still running strong, except the graphics of the intel chip died so i threw a placeholder card I bought the first week the AMD1600 came out at it and it has been happy since. Who knew the stupid little bracket in my AMD Radion9000 series box was to fit it into an optiplex SFF, winning by accident.
I spent 10 days, took 7 videos, and 25 pictures, trying to convince them that the green line across the top of my screen wasn't just the Windows background. They had me retake the picture of the serial number, because it was at an angle, even though that meant taking the monitor off the stand. Meanwhile with Corsair I accidentally caught my wireless dongle with my knee, emailed them asking where I could BUY a new one, and they sent me one, DHL overnight from Taiwan, for free. Dell is the worst company on the planet.
Yeah their service representatives can be pretty... persistent. I can't speak to their consumer product support, but I've had an overall neutral-good experience with their support for their business machines though.
@@theexplosionist2019 m8 he had a defective monitor and they tried to make him give up on getting it warrantied by frustrating him into submission. That's fairly shitty right there. So why Are you siding with Dell on that?
Actually it is all BS. Dell's 1660 Super was of average build quality, and so is this 3090. Only thing happening is that GN does not know how to measure memory temperature. That is why they got 110 C last time /which is ridiculous, card would stop working) and now they got acceptable 90 C . As for the rest, Dell spends enough money to avoid recalls or God forbid being sued. Not terrible, not great.
@@aleksazunjic9672 110°C on a memory module is definitely on the hot side, but should still be okay-ish, 115°C is like the absolute maximum IIRC. That means the card definitely doesn't just stop functioning nor do I think they measure anything wrong. By extend there was an ASUS RX5700XT with really bad cooling that ran memory so hot it *did* throttle badly...
@@MLWJ1993 Well, no. Current MOSFET technology does not allow card to run stable at 110 C on junction. Card would definitely reduce operating frequency (throttle down) to cool itself. If cards remains at 110C you would definitely see artifacts and errors. On the other hand, GN claims that Dell's 1660 Super runs stable at 110C , and at FPS close to other 1660 Super cards. This is physically impossible, and at further examining their measuring methods, they just use thermal IR camera, and that is not the way you could measure junction temperatures. Note that I do not claim that card cannot go to 110C , 115 C or possibly even few degrees higher. But at that temperature it would not run stable at full FPS .
LMAO, GTX1660S with no memory cooling, cheapest heatsink and shroud available on the market and electronic parts from no-name manufacturers is of "average build quality". By that logic my R9 390 with server fans attached by zippers is "Premium quality graphics card". Have you ever seen a decent GPU in your life?
Better than dell award. An insult? A compliment? Now I'm confused Edit: glad to see steve felt the same by almost giving them the better than dell award
Actually it is all BS. Dell's 1660 Super was of average build quality, and so is this 3090. Only thing happening is that GN does not know how to measure memory temperature. That is why they got 110 C last time /which is ridiculous, card would stop working) and now they got acceptable 90 C . As for the rest, Dell spends enough money to avoid recalls or God forbid being sued. Not terrible, not great.
@@aleksazunjic9672 If you know how to measure temperature, go on. You are saying that the other 3090 have better cooling on the VRAM measuring with the same method?
@@Emetsys I'm saying that for measuring memory temperature on junctions you need lot more equipment and knowledge . You cannot just take thermal camera and do it. GN presents itself as almost scientific channel (unlike other which are more geared towards entertainment) . Therefore they should update their methods if they really want to be serious. Otherwise, they would just look silly like in their 1660 Super video.
@@notmyfaultthisishappening3795 does MSI even use a vapour chamber or a backplate heatpipe with flow-through air on their top tier cards, such as the huge Suprim or the Gaming X Trio? Anyway, the thing that hurts me most about MSI and still makes me put them waaay down the list of mobo and gpu purchases, is their reticence to offer 3y stock or extended warranty options. For a company their size, it's odd and should be putting off a lot of buyers
@@jeffscomp I think if you know the pinout you can make adaptors well except for the fact that theres no 5v or 3.3v you would have to make something to step it down, and it would also have to be effiecient and stable.
You won't because Dell computers are so proprietary, they aren't even compatible with each other. The ability to cross match parts between different Dell machines is extremely limited.
I wonder if it was a mistake to only cover half the memory towards the IO or if it had originally been designed with a heat pipe in-mind only cut back on costs last min.
@@GamersNexus That's what I thought. It looks like the other 2 parts have the thermal pad directly over the heatpipe, but the 3rd is just chilling on its own, and got an extra thick thermal pad instead...
@@GamersNexus I wonder if the bent down cut-outs could act as pass throughs for heat pipes. I could see them just reeling the whole thing back seeing other OEM cards do absolutely nothing about the heat issues with the back plate. Always appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for the work you do.
I have this card and was able to DRASTICALLY improve the memory temperature (20+ Celsius reduction) by slathering thermal paste all over the vapor chamber perimeter. This will improve thermal contact with the metal part where the memory sits under. Obviously the GPU temps will rise a bit.
I did the same with my dell 3080. Peel off the stickers, clean with some alcohol, then drown it with thermal paste between the vapour chamber and plate. I have read that some people tried using thin thermal pads, but that thermal paste in that gap performs better
Literally a 20-30C reduction for 3080 / 3090 cards doing this. Should be MANDATORY if you are mining! The fans will be spinning much slower after as well
@@TRXST.ISSUES I change the thermal pads out and added a lot of thermal paste. Add it to the red areas in the photo. You will see huge improvement in temps. Good luck! ibb.co/TrHxB2L
@@jamesblaine5517 I think that's why the thermal pad on the other side is screwy - the backing plate was designed with the assumption that the heatpipe would wrap around all three areas, but the actual design doesn't allow for it for whaever reason so they just dumped some super think thermal pad there.
Whenever Dell designs something for business use, they tend to do pretty well. When they design for the home user, they're very hit and miss. I'm wondering if this card was designed for some server farm or workstation or something and just ended up in an Alienware box.
This appears to have been designed to have the backplate heat pipe spread around the other side of the longer module stretch. It appears (especially due to the high thermal pad and spacing between screw and pipe) that it does partially cover the modules while wrapping around! The ident pattern appears to support that as well.
I was just about to write what you said. I to think the heatpipe is covering part of the memory modules, looking at the frame at 8:51 you can see where the pads have left residue on the upper most modules, and the pipe is just next to that, indicating to me the pipe is covering the other half of the memory module.
Noticed this as well. Probably the fat pad area is for an extension of the heat pipe too. Either that or the original intention was to have the heat pipe extend all the way, but for some season was stopped short at the 2nd group of memories.
"It's not quite TFX, definitely not ATX, it's not ATX12V0 but it's 12V only. So whatever it is, it's a strange thing." Are you saying that it's alienware?
I once used that same Dell PC that you reviewed Steve, and it had a 2060 in it with a proper heatsink and thermal pads. It also didn’t come with any added warranties or as much bloatware. I was pretty impressed with that machine after you reviewed it, but of course I don’t use it anymore.
@@coolguy91975 Yes, Dell has long had very good monitors, especially their UltraSharp line, and the Alienware gaming monitors are some of the best out there right now.
9:41 I'm probably wrong, but it looks like the horseshoe of the heatpipe was meant to go over all of the memory modules with the right angle at the other side. Based on my completely unscientific pixel measuring of a screenshot of the backplate, the outer dimension of the horseshoe is the exact dimension that you would want the interior dimension to be to fit around the depression in the backplate. They got the dimensions wrong and didn't realize it until they started assembling. Quick fix, flip it around and add a taller thermal pad where the heat pipe was supposed to be.
I just took the Dell 3080 apart last night to do some thermal pad work and what i noticed is that while the 3080 does not have rear mounted GDDR6X, it still has thermal pads and the heat pipe you see in the 3090.
When prices dropped on the used market, october 2022, I got a Dell 3080 for $450 in great shape. I really like the card. It's well built, and with the latest bios and the "thermal paste on the vram plate by the gpu core trick" (that you didn't mention in your video probably because you weren't aware of it yet) that lowers vram temps down to 90c, It's at least as good as any other well built reference 3080.
They used the same stamp for all of the backplate, to save money, and just used the thick thermal pad to accommodate for the lack of heatpipe on that side of the backplate. The other two didn't need it because it has the heatpipe to cover the other half of the memory chip.
Looks like the backplate was made for that heat pipe to continue around where the taller thermal pad on the memory is. You can see the imprint of the heat pipe on the memory thermal pads on the other side of the die.
I have a DELL RTX 3080 (shortly after launch) and its been one of the best GPU. Its ugly, yes, but it fits amazing well in normal size cases, which I can't say the same for my other RTX 3070 from MSI.
Just there to remind you that it's still a cheap Dell OEM part. Everything on it is still as cheap as possible, but obviously the minimum needed for a 3090 is a whole different beast from a 1660's.
I'm out in my shop right now. I'm watching this on a...12 year old Dell Latitude Core2 Duo laptop running XP. 2 whole giggity bites of ram. It's never crashed. It used to travel a lot. There's a 32 in TV hooked to it, remote key board and mouse, powered speakers. The battery died a few years ago, it stays on AC power. 50mbps wifi. I had an ethernet cable running out to the shop but one day I had a lightning strike right outside. It went right up the cable and knocked me off the computer...hit me through the wired mouse. Knocked stuff off the walls. Now the ethernet port doesn't work. Other than that it's fine.
"It was not well done. The... well... I guess, in that... In that case the memory was well done, as in it was... was cooked extremely well at about 110º Celsius." Just priceless.
RTX 3090 founders edition has the same case with that I have owned one but RMA'd it because of that and because it didn't have much resell worth atleast with making any profit
I don't know if you guys have looked at their Rtx 3080, but they look identical with the exception of the back plate copper heat pipe they added for the vram cooling. Out of the box, the front memory runs hot as hell because there is no contact with the cooling capabilities of the heat sink, a .5mm thermal pad or even some thermal paste surprisingly does a better job at dissipating heat simply by adding the paste or pad between the copper vapor chambers and the black plate covering the vram in the front. The heat on the 3080 I dealt with, dropped from over 110 to just under 90c and allowed it to stop thermal throttling. Great break down, thanks for taking the time Steve.
They sell the 3090s in their precision workstation lines as well, those have their issues, but their professional products are a bit better designed overall than their consumer junk. I assume thats why this was better.
I'm on my third Dell system and never had anything but a good experience with them. A desktop I got at age 13, a laptop at age 22 and another laptop at age 30. My current G15 laptop was originally supposed to be an Asus G15, but the Asus was total garbage with the worst backlight bleed I've ever seen, trash fan curve and extremely annoying boot animations. I ended up exchanging it for the Dell and haven't had any complaints aside from the trackpad. Automatic bios update works better than any other system I've bought or built (and I've built at minimum 40) In terms of customer service.. Dell repaired my cousins desktop free of charge even though his warranty expired a year previous.. HP on the other hand told my uncle he had to pay $350 for a motherboard to fix a RECALLED laptop, because he was one month past the recall period. Needless to say I have avoided HP like the plague ever since. I feel like with Dell they catch more heat than they deserve a good chunk of the time. That said, I do dislike what they did with Alienware a lot. They ruined what was once a great company. I suspect it was to make their XPS line look better. Really happy with my G15 though.. It's the 11800H/3060 variant, not Ryzen edition for anyone curious. I wanted the Ryzen one but Best Buy didn't have it at the time.
Probably the only 3090 I've seen that can fit in to my mini ITX case surprisingly... I already have my 3080 which I pre-ordered last November coming (in three weeks hopefully), but it would be interesting to see if other manufacturers will release smaller sized cards in the near future...
@@nataliek3384 I have a louqe ghost s1. Really love the build and quality of the case but I'm definitely limited as its only a two slot case. I had to deshroud my evga xc3 ultra to fit. I would also recommend getting a meshlicious or a formd t1 if you're after other mini itx options 😊.
I have a Dell 3070 that looks identical to this. I'm probably going to pull it apart at some point now just to see if it is actually the same cooler, or just the same shroud
These OEM cards are quite interesting to me. I just picked up a Lenovo RTX 3080 for cheap a couple of days ago. Tracking shows it will be delivered tomorrow. I can't wait to see how it is put together.
@@MHCP I have my Lenovo 3080 now and it looks very well put together. Plenty of cooling for both core and memory and it is performing very nicely. Nice LED lighting as well.
I got an Alienware R10 during Dell's last sale for under $2k, it has a 5800x and 6800xt. I debated simply pulling them out but decided to add in a few fans to help the airflow and add some thermal pads to the GPU. Overall it came out pretty good and is working well.
I was JUST looking at a 3080 dell model thinking there's no way I'd buy one even if it was the only one I could get, although now due to this video... no, no I can wait for a non-green pcb model
Just a random info but it seems to be any nvidia card with GDDR6X memory will draw so much power at idle (around 100-120w for 3080ti. not sure for 3080) Idk, that seems not good specially if you leave your pc at night, it can even warm the room!
@@arz1898 my 1080 draws 20% power at idle until I turn on gsync where it drops back down to 5-8% idle, I imagine that might be related. if I recall correctly, I used to be able to idle at lower power without having to use gsync on desktop.
I have this card, but I got it several months ago. I also bought it in the same type of R10 system and re-housed it in another case (after the alienware PSU failed due to overheating). I can tell you that Dell didn't actually make them all this way. Mine had considerably less thermal pads, and a lot less paste. I didn't have any of the extra tall pads seen here on my unit, only the thinner ones that cover the chips only partially. I opened it up so that I could add more thermal material because my VRAM was hitting 100c while mining as the only video card in an open case. After opening it up and doing to my card at home basically exactly what you've observed on this card from the factory, temperatures while mining dropped to around 90c on the VRAM, but now crammed into a smaller case with another video card also mining, so it's actually an even bigger difference than it appears. I'm suspecting they've had some RMAs or at least customer complaints from these RTX 3090 Alienware systems and in order to reduce RMAs they've started to include more thermal compound from the factory in more recent models.
It's getting better y'all. I walked into a Microcenter about two hours after they opened and walked out with a 3090 at MSRP. Granted it was the last card they had but that fact that that happened at all means it's getting better.
Hi, I have the 3080 thats the sister of this card. Putting thermal paste all the way out on the vapor chamber drops temps on the 3080 significantly. My memory was hitting 110, now it peaks at 74. take off those stickers and put paste
luul my dad that work's at a automotive shop experienced Michael dell being fired when he f'd up on installing a ibm pc/server thing at the time for the company back in the late 80's early 90's. Back when Mr. Dell was a young lad 1st starting out his company...Funny how life is at time's! FYI my dad didn't fire him..it was the ceo owner of the shop/company.
@@bentron5228 Still i havent found RTX 3080 yet! Since october i go to shops trying to find rtx33080 and now i also search for rtx3070ti or rtx 3080 ti. I just came back from a shop. They told me that they expect full avaliaibiltiy until the end of the year. But they also told me that there are people who has ordered the cards since 5 months ago and havent received them yet!!! At least myG TX 970 G1 GAMING that i have since november 2014 still runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps and games that are not very demanding like crash bandicoot 4 for example, still run maxed 1440p 60 fps. I hope avaliaibility becomes normal soon so i can get a card!!! Anyway, see my videos too i play all action games and most fighters!
@@CaveyMoth Still i havent found RTX 3080 yet! Since october i go to shops trying to find rtx33080 and now i also search for rtx3070ti or rtx 3080 ti. I just came back from a shop. They told me that they expect full avaliaibiltiy until the end of the year. But they also told me that there are people who has ordered the cards since 5 months ago and havent received them yet!!! At least myG TX 970 G1 GAMING that i have since november 2014 still runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps and games that are not very demanding like crash bandicoot 4 for example, still run maxed 1440p 60 fps. I hope avaliaibility becomes normal soon so i can get a card!!! Anyway, see my videos too i play all action games and most fighters!
These Dell cards are actually quite sought after for their size (along with the few Blower 3090s Nvidia forced AIB's to discontinue). Usually at least 150-200 more than a FE or a regular AIB model. The blower ones go for insane money. Often 4090 money.
Kinda impressed it can cool that well given the fairly small heatsink vs other 3090s. And a good candidate for water cooling if it's a reference board.
8:30 Steve the heat pipe is contacting the thermal tape which you can see from the outline in the tape, so it is contacting the components! 👍 Would have been better if they took the pipe into the slot area to get air flow directly on it. 9:10 it was clear that they should have put the heat pipe on backwards. The "U" of the heat pipe should be flipped around or another longer pipe with a U should have been installed to better wrap around the memory.
The heat pipe on the backplate rests on top of the thermal pads that are on the memory modules. Perhaps that tall thermal pad is not due to a mistake, but rather a design change. Maybe an earlier version had a heat pipe in that area, and they decided to remove it for cost and/or because it wasn't as effective on that side of the card.
Dell actually did a nice job on the fan too! Model PLA09215B12H PLA= Power Logic fan (Makes GPU fans for MSI, Gigabyte, Asus and more) 092= 92MM frame (if it had one), 87MM diameter 15= 15MM thick (standard) B = BALL BEARING (dell didn’t cheap out here) 12= 12v fan (standard) H= High Speed fan (Options: L,M,H,HH)
Slight correction to point out here - the rear heatpipe DOES run over the back memory mudules, which you can see on the thermal pads that are more compressed where the heatpipe connects to them. The thicker pad on one side of the memory modules is for the side that doesnt have the heatpipe. A better design would be if the heatpipe wrapped around to cover all the modules, but I don't even think any AIB has thought to use a flat heatpipe like this to better cool the ram chips on the back of the card.
I bought one is these from a guy that works at some sort of Dell warranty parts business for 1k! Glad to see the positive review, makes me feel even better!
R11 owner with the 3090 and playing DCS runs like a champ with no thermal issues using msi/af for the card. Also mainly running DCS with HP G2 VR the 3090 is a must for me. Vram temps are usually around 96c while gaming. It’s actually is great gaming machine especially if your not a builder. Thanks Steve !
Dell banks on the fact that they can call the components in their prebuilts what they technically are. An RTX 3090!? Hells yeah! Gimme that gaming PC! Meanwhile, they could've totally dropped the ball on making a GPU that compares to legitimate versions of the GPU trying to cut corners at every chance - memory overheating, GPU overheating, everything just performing horribly as a result of them not giving a crap. Apparently whoever was tasked with the Dell RTX 3090 actually had some passion.
My RX 6700xt came from a dell Alienware. Thank God someone rescued that card and offered it for sale, and at a pretty good price No extraneous stifling backplate, decently high performance, and pretty minimal outside of the heat sink and pretty good fans. My PC has never been quieter, honestly
Hey Steve, I get immense satisfaction seeing your meticulously created intro logo animation. But. My, and I'm assuming most people, don't get to appreciate it in it's full HD glory, due to TH-cam videos starting at 420p for the first second or 2, before becoming HD. This video being the fantastic exception. Can I recommend a small snippet like in this video, just before logo, so your hard work can be appreciated? Thanks! P.S. Yeah I'm a little obsessed with your logo, but it's just so crisp, so satisfying when it's HD that I sometimes even slide back to the beginning to watch it again in all it's glory!
@@dirtcreature3d ok great thanks ! I saw a RTX 3080 Dell model just like this on facebook marketplace for 500 dollars and i was thinking if it would be a good buy.
Fun(or F’d up) fact they sold/sell those as “Founders Edition” cards and will assure you that they are FE’s no matter how many people you talk to(I spoke with 5) and how many times you point out that the size of the case can’t support a true Founders Edition from Nvidia as it literally will not fit. But I do consider myself lucky to have gotten the prebuilt and will be putting GPU in custom loop when I do phase two of my build phase one was tear down the Alienware PoS take CPU,GPU,M2(OS) and do as close to the build I initially planned almost a year ago now. Again I consider myself lucky given the circumstances just wish I could do something about the fact I feel like they falsely advertised the card but it is what it is. Love the videos, you have taught me so much more than my previous knowledge and I love how in-depth you get. Thank you
That's irrelevant. If he reassembles the card and it doesn't work as well as before, where is the value in mentioning that? Pretty sure it wouldn't work better than before either, so yeah.
This pint sized 3090 makes sense from a PC builder perspective. It was pointed out that the stock 3090 was too large to be integrated in to the supply chain for major PC makers. When you're building these things in volume having to plan around a special sized part is an expensive problem.
@@angolin9352 every pre-built company has had a bad rep in someone's mind because a lot of people who buy prebuilds don't know wtf they're doing, and break their computer. I knew someone who kept ranting about Acer being shit because they had multiple Acer computers with issues.. Turned out she installed a huge load of malware on all of them. The hardware was fine.
@@hyperstimmed That's true - But Dells were specifically prone to hardware failures in the early and mid 2000s. I'm not sure if it was a mobo or PSU issue (it was before I knew hardware troubleshooting), but nearly everyone I knew had Dells that would just not turn on one day. Looking back on it, it was probably part of the capacitor plague, but the people I knew who had other brands like HP or Lenovo hardly ever had those issues happen to those systems.
@@angolin9352 the Dell desktop I got in 2004 had a hardware failure, funny enough. It wasn't Dell's fault though and didn't have to do with the motherboard or power, the GeForce FX5200 GPU I had in it died when one of the capacitors randomly blew. I now have to wonder if that was a common issue
I cant believe that my friend (definitely not me) didn't realize you could use the bottom of the calipers to accurately measure the height of things like thermal pads. SMH, He is truly a smooth brain. Awesome content as usual Tech Jesus.
I think Nvidia had this high a base spec for the “whole 3090” and Dell had to make it this good for the design to be approved by Nvidia because I don’t believe they won’t skimp every penny everytime they get the chance
Nah dell engineers are just braindead. One of the alienware engineers literally said their systems are designed to run at 100C on cpus to get max performance
I was most exited about none of the fin stacks being bent! WOW! I've never had a card like that. This card looks really high quality to me. P.S.: Sometimes I feel like having a state of the art device with my Vega56: Flow-through cooler design, HBM2 memory and the memory is so close to the core that temperatures are essentially linked in games when it comes to how fast the fans should run.
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Grab a GN Modmat or Mouse Mat here: store.gamersnexus.net/
We reviewed a disappointing Dell GPU here: th-cam.com/video/HFaJZq13tr8/w-d-xo.html
Dell made a good PSU, though, and you can find our review of it here: th-cam.com/video/r7hNmuizMB8/w-d-xo.html
And it made one of the worst pre-builts we've ever seen, the G5 5000: th-cam.com/video/4DMg6hUudHE/w-d-xo.html
And Lenovo gave Dell competition for bottom of the pre-built barrel, which you can see here:
th-cam.com/video/S_b0ndn5oIg/w-d-xo.html
You gotta at least tell us what kind of cookie it is
Hey Steve, since you have given many CPUs the title of "Waste Of Sand", maybe you can call Dell "Waste Of E-waste"!
Tech Jesus" Soul > Cookies
Tease at the beginning lol
Tell me tell me...did a better power supply help my 3080 run better? PNY XLR8 Revel Epic-X (1440-1710)
Originally with a TT "tough" 750w gold. It topped at 1995MHz. It was stable at 2200 with Afterburner but I don't do that often. Had it for a few months, never saw it go higher on it's own.
Recently got the newest Corsair RM1000x. Beefier cables come with it. I wanted my draw to stay nearer the 50% area. Then I noticed my card was running at 2050MHz and I had to check and make sure I hadn't left Afterburner boosting it. Nope. I've seen it hit 2100 now "out of the box".
A Dell product paradoxically worthy of the "It's Better Than Dell" award.
absolute savage!
I was going to say that 😥
Like they haven't done enough. Leave it to Dell to break the space-time continuum.
Dell have always been hit or miss, I bought a second hand optiplex and it is still running strong, except the graphics of the intel chip died so i threw a placeholder card I bought the first week the AMD1600 came out at it and it has been happy since. Who knew the stupid little bracket in my AMD Radion9000 series box was to fit it into an optiplex SFF, winning by accident.
Makes sense though. This product itself is better than the company that produces it :)
"ITS BETTER THAN DELL...S OTHER PRODUCTS AWARD" - Steve, probably.
Here you seem lonely, have my reply
I spent 10 days, took 7 videos, and 25 pictures, trying to convince them that the green line across the top of my screen wasn't just the Windows background. They had me retake the picture of the serial number, because it was at an angle, even though that meant taking the monitor off the stand. Meanwhile with Corsair I accidentally caught my wireless dongle with my knee, emailed them asking where I could BUY a new one, and they sent me one, DHL overnight from Taiwan, for free. Dell is the worst company on the planet.
I can see why you'd feel that way after that experience. That's insane. Sounds really painful.
Worst company on the planet because they didn't do exactly what you wanted?
EA are the worst company in the world.
Yeah their service representatives can be pretty... persistent. I can't speak to their consumer product support, but I've had an overall neutral-good experience with their support for their business machines though.
Any mobile network is the worse.
@@theexplosionist2019 m8 he had a defective monitor and they tried to make him give up on getting it warrantied by frustrating him into submission. That's fairly shitty right there. So why Are you siding with Dell on that?
"better than expected"
What Steve expected from Dell: "a rebadged RTX 3070 with a plastic heatsink"
Actually it is all BS. Dell's 1660 Super was of average build quality, and so is this 3090. Only thing happening is that GN does not know how to measure memory temperature. That is why they got 110 C last time /which is ridiculous, card would stop working) and now they got acceptable 90 C . As for the rest, Dell spends enough money to avoid recalls or God forbid being sued. Not terrible, not great.
@@aleksazunjic9672 Cool. Can you tell us what he's doing wrong? He is open to feedback and updating test methodology.
@@aleksazunjic9672 110°C on a memory module is definitely on the hot side, but should still be okay-ish, 115°C is like the absolute maximum IIRC. That means the card definitely doesn't just stop functioning nor do I think they measure anything wrong.
By extend there was an ASUS RX5700XT with really bad cooling that ran memory so hot it *did* throttle badly...
@@MLWJ1993 Well, no. Current MOSFET technology does not allow card to run stable at 110 C on junction. Card would definitely reduce operating frequency (throttle down) to cool itself. If cards remains at 110C you would definitely see artifacts and errors. On the other hand, GN claims that Dell's 1660 Super runs stable at 110C , and at FPS close to other 1660 Super cards. This is physically impossible, and at further examining their measuring methods, they just use thermal IR camera, and that is not the way you could measure junction temperatures. Note that I do not claim that card cannot go to 110C , 115 C or possibly even few degrees higher. But at that temperature it would not run stable at full FPS .
LMAO, GTX1660S with no memory cooling, cheapest heatsink and shroud available on the market and electronic parts from no-name manufacturers is of "average build quality". By that logic my R9 390 with server fans attached by zippers is "Premium quality graphics card". Have you ever seen a decent GPU in your life?
Better than dell award. An insult? A compliment? Now I'm confused
Edit: glad to see steve felt the same by almost giving them the better than dell award
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." - Bilbo Baggins
I'm not sure if inconsistently bad is better than consistently bad. No matter the company, applaud the good work, and excoriate the bad!
Normally, that would be damning by faint praise, but in this case, it's more like genuine impression.
"Dell is a confusing company right now,"
That checks out.
@Chris from a tech nerd and pc builder stand point i really dislike dell and have never like them acept there moniters are ok, or atleast used to be
Actually it is all BS. Dell's 1660 Super was of average build quality, and so is this 3090. Only thing happening is that GN does not know how to measure memory temperature. That is why they got 110 C last time /which is ridiculous, card would stop working) and now they got acceptable 90 C . As for the rest, Dell spends enough money to avoid recalls or God forbid being sued. Not terrible, not great.
@@aleksazunjic9672 If you know how to measure temperature, go on. You are saying that the other 3090 have better cooling on the VRAM measuring with the same method?
@@Emetsys I'm saying that for measuring memory temperature on junctions you need lot more equipment and knowledge . You cannot just take thermal camera and do it. GN presents itself as almost scientific channel (unlike other which are more geared towards entertainment) . Therefore they should update their methods if they really want to be serious. Otherwise, they would just look silly like in their 1660 Super video.
Dell is more interested in thier enterprise products.
so.. who made this for you, dell? whoever that was, you should work with them more often
So long as they learn to measure and bend heat pipes better, yes.
Its a msi card. My 3080 variant died after 3 days so i think its hit or miss.
The replacement has been good for a few months.
@@notmyfaultthisishappening3795 does MSI even use a vapour chamber or a backplate heatpipe with flow-through air on their top tier cards, such as the huge Suprim or the Gaming X Trio?
Anyway, the thing that hurts me most about MSI and still makes me put them waaay down the list of mobo and gpu purchases, is their reticence to offer 3y stock or extended warranty options. For a company their size, it's odd and should be putting off a lot of buyers
*angrily yells at the gpu*
"WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?!"
With their PSU and GPU, if they keep that up, we'll be able to make a whole "better than Dell" computer with Dell parts only
I would actually watch that
The psu is very proprietary
@@jeffscomp I think if you know the pinout you can make adaptors
well except for the fact that theres no 5v or 3.3v you would have to make something to step it down, and it would also have to be effiecient and stable.
@@xavierrodriguez2463 it'd be too much hassle. You can just buy a seasonic and be done with it
You won't because Dell computers are so proprietary, they aren't even compatible with each other. The ability to cross match parts between different Dell machines is extremely limited.
I wonder if it was a mistake to only cover half the memory towards the IO or if it had originally been designed with a heat pipe in-mind only cut back on costs last min.
Great point!
Maybe having the heatpipe that long made things worst due to the length?
i thought the same but again i saw there is not much room for the pipe to route to the other memory modules because of the NVLink (SLI?) cutout.
@@GamersNexus That's what I thought.
It looks like the other 2 parts have the thermal pad directly over the heatpipe,
but the 3rd is just chilling on its own, and got an extra thick thermal pad
instead...
@@GamersNexus I wonder if the bent down cut-outs could act as pass throughs for heat pipes.
I could see them just reeling the whole thing back seeing other OEM cards do absolutely nothing about the heat issues with the back plate.
Always appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for the work you do.
I have this card and was able to DRASTICALLY improve the memory temperature (20+ Celsius reduction) by slathering thermal paste all over the vapor chamber perimeter. This will improve thermal contact with the metal part where the memory sits under. Obviously the GPU temps will rise a bit.
I did the same with my dell 3080. Peel off the stickers, clean with some alcohol, then drown it with thermal paste between the vapour chamber and plate. I have read that some people tried using thin thermal pads, but that thermal paste in that gap performs better
Literally a 20-30C reduction for 3080 / 3090 cards doing this. Should be MANDATORY if you are mining! The fans will be spinning much slower after as well
Same, I use 8 of them to mine and the thermal paste on the VC is a massive reduction on mem temps and a slight bump on GPU
Can you link a photo?
@@TRXST.ISSUES I change the thermal pads out and added a lot of thermal paste. Add it to the red areas in the photo. You will see huge improvement in temps. Good luck! ibb.co/TrHxB2L
Steve, it deserves the "It Passed the Test" award!
Let's not get ahead of ourselves!
Y👆😬
It deserves the Better than Dell award, even though it IS Dell.
@@AwesomeBlackDude ?
@@waldolemmer he asked gamer nexus why, what are you confused about? lol
hey, on a more positive note, dell now gives the option to not include the ewaste keyboard and mouse!
they will include the cheapest rgb keyboard on amazon as a replacement
One thing to note: You can actually see the heatpipe on the back contacting the thermal pad. Not just running above it.
Glad someone else noticed this, just a shame they did not extend it to cover the other side.
I was screaming this at the screen lol
@@jamesblaine5517 I think that's why the thermal pad on the other side is screwy - the backing plate was designed with the assumption that the heatpipe would wrap around all three areas, but the actual design doesn't allow for it for whaever reason so they just dumped some super think thermal pad there.
Whenever Dell designs something for business use, they tend to do pretty well. When they design for the home user, they're very hit and miss. I'm wondering if this card was designed for some server farm or workstation or something and just ended up in an Alienware box.
This appears to have been designed to have the backplate heat pipe spread around the other side of the longer module stretch. It appears (especially due to the high thermal pad and spacing between screw and pipe) that it does partially cover the modules while wrapping around! The ident pattern appears to support that as well.
I was just about to write what you said. I to think the heatpipe is covering part of the memory modules, looking at the frame at 8:51 you can see where the pads have left residue on the upper most modules, and the pipe is just next to that, indicating to me the pipe is covering the other half of the memory module.
Seconded
Noticed this as well. Probably the fat pad area is for an extension of the heat pipe too. Either that or the original intention was to have the heat pipe extend all the way, but for some season was stopped short at the 2nd group of memories.
"It's not quite TFX, definitely not ATX, it's not ATX12V0 but it's 12V only. So whatever it is, it's a strange thing."
Are you saying that it's alienware?
It’s probably just me but I actually really like the designs of these oem cards. They are very sleek and not overdone like most traditional aib cards
Me too! I think the simple look can make a build look very sleek instead of over-the-top RGB, logos and heat pipes everywhere style of other cards
@@SuperSucc69 RGB looks fine if you use the right colors.
I once used that same Dell PC that you reviewed Steve, and it had a 2060 in it with a proper heatsink and thermal pads. It also didn’t come with any added warranties or as much bloatware. I was pretty impressed with that machine after you reviewed it, but of course I don’t use it anymore.
A Dell product that is actually decent?!
The prophecy is true...
Hell hath frozen over...
Their U series monitors are consistently excellent.
@@coolguy91975 Yes, Dell has long had very good monitors, especially their UltraSharp line, and the Alienware gaming monitors are some of the best out there right now.
@@sandwichdriving101 dell's XPS laptops are quite decent too
9:41 I'm probably wrong, but it looks like the horseshoe of the heatpipe was meant to go over all of the memory modules with the right angle at the other side. Based on my completely unscientific pixel measuring of a screenshot of the backplate, the outer dimension of the horseshoe is the exact dimension that you would want the interior dimension to be to fit around the depression in the backplate. They got the dimensions wrong and didn't realize it until they started assembling. Quick fix, flip it around and add a taller thermal pad where the heat pipe was supposed to be.
Imagine a Dell product getting the _"Better than Dell"_ award.
dell should add that sticker to their products in their store lol
ikr
Mentioning the thermal pad thickness and the fan model?!! You sir have my full utmost respect.
I just took the Dell 3080 apart last night to do some thermal pad work and what i noticed is that while the 3080 does not have rear mounted GDDR6X, it still has thermal pads and the heat pipe you see in the 3090.
Interesting, my dell 3080 didn't have the thermal pads or heat pipe on the back.
@@robotuprising1711 That is very interesting indeed
18:57 The Alienware system looks like a trendy dehumidifier.
You need to make a "It's better than a Dell" trophy.
Underrated comment.
"our viewer sent us this 3090"
**proceeds to slap it 17 times after holding it like a gun**
😂😂😩
I think Steve even broke it. Look at the screw hole on the corner at 14:20 😂
Michael Dell: "it's free ad time, of course I sent it to you"
So, is Gamers Nexus working on a "back to you Steve" shirt yet? I'll take 3.
I'll buy one, but can I request a button-up with a collar? I have nothing that goes with my 3080ti(e).
@@Jake9066 underrated comment 😂
@@Jake9066 hehe, dad joke
Can we get a gaussian blur on here?
*Uses mosiac instead
As a Dell employee, we needed this win..
win is a strong word ;D
Where’s my x15
Am kidding sorry
Chin up, I'm sure you'll get better eventually.
I personally love the monitors.
10:45 That's a damn good way to advertise your deskmat. I don't plan on taking my GPU apart but damn that's helpful.
Any video by Gamers Nexus that has "Dell" in the title, you know it's gunna be funny
“in that case, the memory was well done"
pun in the pun. damn.
When prices dropped on the used market, october 2022, I got a Dell 3080 for $450 in great shape. I really like the card. It's well built, and with the latest bios and the "thermal paste on the vram plate by the gpu core trick" (that you didn't mention in your video probably because you weren't aware of it yet) that lowers vram temps down to 90c, It's at least as good as any other well built reference 3080.
They used the same stamp for all of the backplate, to save money, and just used the thick thermal pad to accommodate for the lack of heatpipe on that side of the backplate. The other two didn't need it because it has the heatpipe to cover the other half of the memory chip.
I really appreciate your journalistic integrity. As weird as Dell can be, I see you giving them praise where it's deserved, and that's nice to see.
Looks like the backplate was made for that heat pipe to continue around where the taller thermal pad on the memory is. You can see the imprint of the heat pipe on the memory thermal pads on the other side of the die.
I have a DELL RTX 3080 (shortly after launch) and its been one of the best GPU. Its ugly, yes, but it fits amazing well in normal size cases, which I can't say the same for my other RTX 3070 from MSI.
i have a dell 1660 super and its run great idk whats up with all the hate...I can run any game out there
@@Pursc248 have you seen your memory temps?
Had a Dell R8 with a turbo GTX 1070. Thing was nice when I had it
Seeing a 3090 with a green PCB feels wrong
Finally, the pcbs are returning to nature
Just there to remind you that it's still a cheap Dell OEM part. Everything on it is still as cheap as possible, but obviously the minimum needed for a 3090 is a whole different beast from a 1660's.
@@jonahhekmatyar Nature is healing
i saw your name now.... Are you Greek too?!
It is like seeing an old friend.
Put a smile on my face.
As in the past, I think MSI makes these cards for Dell. You can tell from the "MS" model # on the front of the card right above its PCIe connector.
MSI the name also shows up in the Alienware software for overclocking.
Knowing Dell, I’m surprised that they’re now doing something half-right
Surely it is a big misunderstanding.
Big wig at dell just watched this video and heads are rolling.
I'm out in my shop right now. I'm watching this on a...12 year old Dell Latitude Core2 Duo laptop running XP. 2 whole giggity bites of ram.
It's never crashed. It used to travel a lot. There's a 32 in TV hooked to it, remote key board and mouse, powered speakers. The battery died a few years ago, it stays on AC power. 50mbps wifi.
I had an ethernet cable running out to the shop but one day I had a lightning strike right outside. It went right up the cable and knocked me off the computer...hit me through the wired mouse. Knocked stuff off the walls. Now the ethernet port doesn't work. Other than that it's fine.
I have an old T3500 workstation from 2013 that has been running 24/7 365 for nearly 10 years without a single hitch
@@yourhandlehere1 You must repair it as a reward for it's dedicated service.
"It was not well done. The... well... I guess, in that... In that case the memory was well done, as in it was... was cooked extremely well at about 110º Celsius."
Just priceless.
yum
RTX 3090 founders edition has the same case with that I have owned one but RMA'd it because of that and because it didn't have much resell worth atleast with making any profit
Hahahahah, that cliffhanger at 0:15 XD
"Better than expected" award!
Take a look at the RTX 3090 made by HP please. It comes with Omen prebuilds.
Kinda thought this was the same one
I don't know if you guys have looked at their Rtx 3080, but they look identical with the exception of the back plate copper heat pipe they added for the vram cooling. Out of the box, the front memory runs hot as hell because there is no contact with the cooling capabilities of the heat sink, a .5mm thermal pad or even some thermal paste surprisingly does a better job at dissipating heat simply by adding the paste or pad between the copper vapor chambers and the black plate covering the vram in the front. The heat on the 3080 I dealt with, dropped from over 110 to just under 90c and allowed it to stop thermal throttling. Great break down, thanks for taking the time Steve.
They sell the 3090s in their precision workstation lines as well, those have their issues, but their professional products are a bit better designed overall than their consumer junk. I assume thats why this was better.
"a bit better" sounds pretty sad lmao
@@crowdemon_archives the bar is low
I'm on my third Dell system and never had anything but a good experience with them.
A desktop I got at age 13, a laptop at age 22 and another laptop at age 30.
My current G15 laptop was originally supposed to be an Asus G15, but the Asus was total garbage with the worst backlight bleed I've ever seen, trash fan curve and extremely annoying boot animations.
I ended up exchanging it for the Dell and haven't had any complaints aside from the trackpad. Automatic bios update works better than any other system I've bought or built (and I've built at minimum 40)
In terms of customer service..
Dell repaired my cousins desktop free of charge even though his warranty expired a year previous.. HP on the other hand told my uncle he had to pay $350 for a motherboard to fix a RECALLED laptop, because he was one month past the recall period. Needless to say I have avoided HP like the plague ever since.
I feel like with Dell they catch more heat than they deserve a good chunk of the time.
That said, I do dislike what they did with Alienware a lot. They ruined what was once a great company. I suspect it was to make their XPS line look better.
Really happy with my G15 though.. It's the 11800H/3060 variant, not Ryzen edition for anyone curious.
I wanted the Ryzen one but Best Buy didn't have it at the time.
Probably the only 3090 I've seen that can fit in to my mini ITX case surprisingly... I already have my 3080 which I pre-ordered last November coming (in three weeks hopefully), but it would be interesting to see if other manufacturers will release smaller sized cards in the near future...
@@nataliek3384 I have a louqe ghost s1. Really love the build and quality of the case but I'm definitely limited as its only a two slot case. I had to deshroud my evga xc3 ultra to fit. I would also recommend getting a meshlicious or a formd t1 if you're after other mini itx options 😊.
I have a Dell 3070 that looks identical to this. I'm probably going to pull it apart at some point now just to see if it is actually the same cooler, or just the same shroud
I love Steves suprised happy face when he says that its not that bad 🙂
These OEM cards are quite interesting to me. I just picked up a Lenovo RTX 3080 for cheap a couple of days ago. Tracking shows it will be delivered tomorrow. I can't wait to see how it is put together.
Some models are interesting. HP and Lenovo uses good components
@@MHCP I have my Lenovo 3080 now and it looks very well put together. Plenty of cooling for both core and memory and it is performing very nicely. Nice LED lighting as well.
@@Daz555Daz my lenovo 3070 is very hot when running above 150 watts and very loud it so so annoying because most 3070's running quite and cold
> "Not to be confused with Michael Dell, I don't think he would send us anything at this point"
lmao
I got an Alienware R10 during Dell's last sale for under $2k, it has a 5800x and 6800xt. I debated simply pulling them out but decided to add in a few fans to help the airflow and add some thermal pads to the GPU. Overall it came out pretty good and is working well.
I was JUST looking at a 3080 dell model thinking there's no way I'd buy one even if it was the only one I could get, although now due to this video...
no, no I can wait for a non-green pcb model
Just a random info but it seems to be any nvidia card with GDDR6X memory will draw so much power at idle (around 100-120w for 3080ti. not sure for 3080)
Idk, that seems not good specially if you leave your pc at night, it can even warm the room!
@@arz1898 my 1080 draws 20% power at idle until I turn on gsync where it drops back down to 5-8% idle, I imagine that might be related. if I recall correctly, I used to be able to idle at lower power without having to use gsync on desktop.
Green pcb is the best pcb.
RGB looks terrible.
Change my mind
I have this card, but I got it several months ago. I also bought it in the same type of R10 system and re-housed it in another case (after the alienware PSU failed due to overheating). I can tell you that Dell didn't actually make them all this way. Mine had considerably less thermal pads, and a lot less paste. I didn't have any of the extra tall pads seen here on my unit, only the thinner ones that cover the chips only partially. I opened it up so that I could add more thermal material because my VRAM was hitting 100c while mining as the only video card in an open case. After opening it up and doing to my card at home basically exactly what you've observed on this card from the factory, temperatures while mining dropped to around 90c on the VRAM, but now crammed into a smaller case with another video card also mining, so it's actually an even bigger difference than it appears. I'm suspecting they've had some RMAs or at least customer complaints from these RTX 3090 Alienware systems and in order to reduce RMAs they've started to include more thermal compound from the factory in more recent models.
Expect the TVA to take the person responsible for Dell having a good product.
I understood that reference!
Ps: literally just finished the 6th ep. Pretty cool yet confusing, Disney wth gimme my post credit scene >:(
I understood this to, I need to watch the final episode today!
I got a Alienware 3080 out of an prebuilt and then put it in my own system, like "Michael", and it's been rock solid and great!
It looks fairly simplistic, I like it. If you didn't know you wouldn't have guessed it's a 3090 the perfect sleeper gpu~
It's getting better y'all.
I walked into a Microcenter about two hours after they opened and walked out with a 3090 at MSRP.
Granted it was the last card they had but that fact that that happened at all means it's getting better.
Hi, I have the 3080 thats the sister of this card. Putting thermal paste all the way out on the vapor chamber drops temps on the 3080 significantly. My memory was hitting 110, now it peaks at 74. take off those stickers and put paste
luul my dad that work's at a automotive shop experienced Michael dell being fired when he f'd up on installing a ibm pc/server thing at the time for the company back in the late 80's early 90's. Back when Mr. Dell was a young lad 1st starting out his company...Funny how life is at time's! FYI my dad didn't fire him..it was the ceo owner of the shop/company.
Cool story, thanks for sharing. :-)
This types of cards reminds me of captains workspace GPUs
If only Gamers Nexus used Cornholio Mark for their GPU benchmarks.
It dosen't have enough fans to be one
@@bentron5228 Still i havent found RTX 3080 yet! Since october i go to shops trying to find rtx33080 and now i also search for rtx3070ti or rtx 3080 ti. I just came back from a shop. They told me that they expect full avaliaibiltiy until the end of the year. But they also told me that there are people who has ordered the cards since 5 months ago and havent received them yet!!! At least myG TX 970 G1 GAMING that i have since november 2014 still runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps and games that are not very demanding like crash bandicoot 4 for example, still run maxed 1440p 60 fps. I hope avaliaibility becomes normal soon so i can get a card!!! Anyway, see my videos too i play all action games and most fighters!
@@CaveyMoth Still i havent found RTX 3080 yet! Since october i go to shops trying to find rtx33080 and now i also search for rtx3070ti or rtx 3080 ti. I just came back from a shop. They told me that they expect full avaliaibiltiy until the end of the year. But they also told me that there are people who has ordered the cards since 5 months ago and havent received them yet!!! At least myG TX 970 G1 GAMING that i have since november 2014 still runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps and games that are not very demanding like crash bandicoot 4 for example, still run maxed 1440p 60 fps. I hope avaliaibility becomes normal soon so i can get a card!!! Anyway, see my videos too i play all action games and most fighters!
These Dell cards are actually quite sought after for their size (along with the few Blower 3090s Nvidia forced AIB's to discontinue). Usually at least 150-200 more than a FE or a regular AIB model. The blower ones go for insane money. Often 4090 money.
Kinda impressed it can cool that well given the fairly small heatsink vs other 3090s. And a good candidate for water cooling if it's a reference board.
i stumbled on a video of the EK waterblock working with the dell 3090 as it is a reference board. somewhere on you tube.
I like the look of dell's black rectangle gpus. Looks minimalistic and clean
GN: "Sometimes Dell actually tries"
Dell: **Loud cheering noises and opening champagne 🍾🥂**
8:30 Steve the heat pipe is contacting the thermal tape which you can see from the outline in the tape, so it is contacting the components! 👍 Would have been better if they took the pipe into the slot area to get air flow directly on it. 9:10 it was clear that they should have put the heat pipe on backwards. The "U" of the heat pipe should be flipped around or another longer pipe with a U should have been installed to better wrap around the memory.
My favorite part 14:12 ' They must be doing something wrong ' Ohh I'm waiting as well lol!..
OMG... this is my card!!! I'm using an Alienware Aurora R12. This is like the first ever Dell 3090 Review and its by GN!!
The heat pipe on the backplate rests on top of the thermal pads that are on the memory modules. Perhaps that tall thermal pad is not due to a mistake, but rather a design change. Maybe an earlier version had a heat pipe in that area, and they decided to remove it for cost and/or because it wasn't as effective on that side of the card.
Dell actually did a nice job on the fan too!
Model PLA09215B12H
PLA= Power Logic fan (Makes GPU fans for MSI, Gigabyte, Asus and more)
092= 92MM frame (if it had one), 87MM diameter
15= 15MM thick (standard)
B = BALL BEARING (dell didn’t cheap out here)
12= 12v fan (standard)
H= High Speed fan (Options: L,M,H,HH)
This is legit the only air-cooled, non-FE card stronger than a 3070 I've seen that doesn't have three massive fans and a hulking triple slot heatsink.
Hell even the founders edition has a triple slot cooler
Slight correction to point out here - the rear heatpipe DOES run over the back memory mudules, which you can see on the thermal pads that are more compressed where the heatpipe connects to them. The thicker pad on one side of the memory modules is for the side that doesnt have the heatpipe. A better design would be if the heatpipe wrapped around to cover all the modules, but I don't even think any AIB has thought to use a flat heatpipe like this to better cool the ram chips on the back of the card.
i keep seeing all of these award name recommendations and i can't help but give you mine as well! it gets the, " I can't believe it's dell" award!
Can't give enough kudos for highlighting the graph's vertical axis being magnified and why. Awesome statistical integrity.
Damn, Dell. Why can't you just sell these alone instead of encased in e-waste?
I bought one is these from a guy that works at some sort of Dell warranty parts business for 1k! Glad to see the positive review, makes me feel even better!
"Dell tries"
Dell - Looks like we have more corners we can cut next time to reach the bottom of the barrel
R11 owner with the 3090 and playing DCS runs like a champ with no thermal issues using msi/af for the card. Also mainly running DCS with HP G2 VR the 3090 is a must for me. Vram temps are usually around 96c while gaming. It’s actually is great gaming machine especially if your not a builder. Thanks Steve !
“apply some gaussian blur on this"
*Applies pixelation*
Dell banks on the fact that they can call the components in their prebuilts what they technically are. An RTX 3090!? Hells yeah! Gimme that gaming PC! Meanwhile, they could've totally dropped the ball on making a GPU that compares to legitimate versions of the GPU trying to cut corners at every chance - memory overheating, GPU overheating, everything just performing horribly as a result of them not giving a crap. Apparently whoever was tasked with the Dell RTX 3090 actually had some passion.
"There's not a tamper seal. That's interesting" Well generally I think Dell wouldn't be worried about it's customers WANTING to tamper with a GPU.
My RX 6700xt came from a dell Alienware. Thank God someone rescued that card and offered it for sale, and at a pretty good price
No extraneous stifling backplate, decently high performance, and pretty minimal outside of the heat sink and pretty good fans. My PC has never been quieter, honestly
well its made by MSI so that is where this Quality came from :P Shoutout to the Viewer that submitted the Card!
Hey Steve, I get immense satisfaction seeing your meticulously created intro logo animation.
But.
My, and I'm assuming most people, don't get to appreciate it in it's full HD glory, due to TH-cam videos starting at 420p for the first second or 2, before becoming HD. This video being the fantastic exception. Can I recommend a small snippet like in this video, just before logo, so your hard work can be appreciated?
Thanks!
P.S. Yeah I'm a little obsessed with your logo, but it's just so crisp, so satisfying when it's HD that I sometimes even slide back to the beginning to watch it again in all it's glory!
Just picked one of these up for 700 bucks, super stoked!
Bought to pick one up for $450
@@maurice482390 where you bought it for 450 usd?
hey i see you posted this 3 months ago, how is the card still holding up?
@@theboy2777 still running great! I use it for 3D rendering so the card is on constantly, crunching away on frames, super stoked with it
@@dirtcreature3d ok great thanks ! I saw a RTX 3080 Dell model just like this on facebook marketplace for 500 dollars and i was thinking if it would be a good buy.
Fun(or F’d up) fact they sold/sell those as “Founders Edition” cards and will assure you that they are FE’s no matter how many people you talk to(I spoke with 5) and how many times you point out that the size of the case can’t support a true Founders Edition from Nvidia as it literally will not fit. But I do consider myself lucky to have gotten the prebuilt and will be putting GPU in custom loop when I do phase two of my build phase one was tear down the Alienware PoS take CPU,GPU,M2(OS) and do as close to the build I initially planned almost a year ago now. Again I consider myself lucky given the circumstances just wish I could do something about the fact I feel like they falsely advertised the card but it is what it is. Love the videos, you have taught me so much more than my previous knowledge and I love how in-depth you get. Thank you
Out of curiosity, do you ever test a card after re-assembly and check if there are notable differences?
That's irrelevant. If he reassembles the card and it doesn't work as well as before, where is the value in mentioning that? Pretty sure it wouldn't work better than before either, so yeah.
What I got out of this, if dell sold this as a stanalone product and you asked Steve "Is this worth buying?" he'd tell you to go for it.
Dell is a company with great engineers but horrible higher ups
This pint sized 3090 makes sense from a PC builder perspective. It was pointed out that the stock 3090 was too large to be integrated in to the supply chain for major PC makers. When you're building these things in volume having to plan around a special sized part is an expensive problem.
So in a span of 20 years, we've gone from "Dude, you're getting a Dell." to "Dude, you're getting a Dell?"
I don't remember a time when Dell produced good PCs - They were known to be prone to breaking in the mid-2000s.
@@angolin9352 They made good laptops in the 90's.
@@angolin9352 every pre-built company has had a bad rep in someone's mind because a lot of people who buy prebuilds don't know wtf they're doing, and break their computer.
I knew someone who kept ranting about Acer being shit because they had multiple Acer computers with issues..
Turned out she installed a huge load of malware on all of them. The hardware was fine.
@@hyperstimmed That's true - But Dells were specifically prone to hardware failures in the early and mid 2000s. I'm not sure if it was a mobo or PSU issue (it was before I knew hardware troubleshooting), but nearly everyone I knew had Dells that would just not turn on one day. Looking back on it, it was probably part of the capacitor plague, but the people I knew who had other brands like HP or Lenovo hardly ever had those issues happen to those systems.
@@angolin9352 the Dell desktop I got in 2004 had a hardware failure, funny enough. It wasn't Dell's fault though and didn't have to do with the motherboard or power, the GeForce FX5200 GPU I had in it died when one of the capacitors randomly blew.
I now have to wonder if that was a common issue
I cant believe that my friend (definitely not me) didn't realize you could use the bottom of the calipers to accurately measure the height of things like thermal pads.
SMH, He is truly a smooth brain.
Awesome content as usual Tech Jesus.
I think Nvidia had this high a base spec for the “whole 3090” and Dell had to make it this good for the design to be approved by Nvidia because I don’t believe they won’t skimp every penny everytime they get the chance
Nah dell engineers are just braindead. One of the alienware engineers literally said their systems are designed to run at 100C on cpus to get max performance
@@ericryang1757 not the engineers’ fault.
Thank you for bringing up Sapphire cooling designs, We've been running Sapphire cards since 2008 and have always been very happy with the cooling.
I didn't even know Dell made Nvidia cards themselves. I figured they'd just buy from another cheap OEM and put it in their systems.
Steve: It's better than expected.
Dell: Champagne corks pop
I was most exited about none of the fin stacks being bent! WOW! I've never had a card like that. This card looks really high quality to me.
P.S.: Sometimes I feel like having a state of the art device with my Vega56: Flow-through cooler design, HBM2 memory and the memory is so close to the core that temperatures are essentially linked in games when it comes to how fast the fans should run.
Love the slap in the head followed by a pat in the back approach with Dell bruh