Can You Upgrade the iMac Pro?!
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- Apple doesn't want you to disassemble iMac Pro, but yolo.
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Despite questionable hardware choices, Apple certainly struck it out of the park with iMac Pro. It's fast, it's mean, it's expensive, and it's meant to stay sealed. Snazzy Labs decides to open, disassemble, and upgrade the iMac Pro's CPU and RAM anyways.
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4:41 if you don't want to know the method to my madness and just want to skip to the disassembly.
NOTE: at 3:01, that's the 10-core upgrade price not 18-core. That's a 4AM error.
Keep it in mind , intel and to some extent AMD pull there TDP figures out of there arse.
It's okay, Quinn. I still love the video. Great work! :D
Snazzy Labs kinda unfair to include $130 in mouse and keyboard in the imac pro comparable build when a $20 biglots mouse keyboard combo is as good as the shitty ones apple gives you and if you want mechanical the redragon kumara is $30 and the logitech g300s gaming mouse is $20. And to be honest at that point id pay the extra $50 to use windows 10 and if you really want to work with mac os you get the option to dual boot.
Having more ram is never overkill specially if your dealing with video and pdf files the more the better. Custom PC can be more expensive but one benefit to it is SLI, more power on PSU and better cooling.
It is why they call you fanboys, all that sexy LOL.. You do not understand why they use crappy thermal paste? how are they going to sell you new computer if it does not fail. I am not anti Mac but it is typical of todays manufacturing where nothing lasts so they can sell you another in a few years.
Hahahahaha he said "voiding the warranty"... On an imac pro... What warranty?
The one included with the machine that promises Apple will break your computer for free.
bilos1993 The Same excellent support as he got for the vesa support
the warranty that cannot be voided anymore by upgrading or opening ? LUL
Snazzy Labs still have to factor in gas money and travel time to the Genius Bar. DIY breaking at home is still more cost-effective.
True, True... Been there...
Yeah those "warranty void if removed" stickers are actually illegal in the USA via the Right to Repair laws so rip those things right off and tell Apple to talk to the FTC if they say anything about it.
Craig MacDaniel The one who holds the money has the power
The sticker itself isn't, but actually voiding the warranty is.... Basically the sticker is allowed to lie.
Andrew Crews It might also be valid in countries with different repair legislation.
@@myselfremade The warranty is *not* voided in this case. The act of opening a device (regardless of stickers) is not legally capable of voiding a warranty. This is what the written law states. It even says "Warrantors cannot require branded parts be used..." Meaning, you are free to modify the internal components as you wish and the warranty is still binding between the warrantor (company/provider) and consumer (purchasing entity.) The sticker is also not allowed to lie, the FTC sent out warnings about this since it is deceptive and suggests and illegal practice. You can lookup the "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act" and read the official legal bill if any of this is confusing. Wikipedia has a fairly good summarization though of the most important bits in simpler language.
@@Garbee I think you misunderstood my comment.
Removing the stickers legally cannot void the warranty, but there isn't a law against putting on the stickers. Basically, the sticker lies to you.
2016 - Linus Tech Tips: "But can it run crysis?"
2018 - Snazzy Lab: 8:50 "but can it boot?"
Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor I thought hack smith said that
Saved 5 bucks and made a killer video!
Lol Thanks Danny!! 😂
He can still sell the stock ram and the Xenon chip for a decent amount of money...
@@Lucianrider Quick question tho, who would want to buy the CPU from a _base model_ imac pro? You could probably get the regular version of that CPU for a similar price used and it would be slightly faster. The only reason I see is if you wanted to upgrade your imac pro with genuine imac pro parts, but then why would you want the lowest end CPU possible?
I love that you actually did this.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In life you need *someone* with some gumption and backbone to say "stuff the warranty, I need what I need"
Immediately hit like after that 5:35 fiasco lol
What the... how'd THAT get there?!
Internet gold
Exactly the same here
You mean the FAPasco?
Same haha
The stuff we see once you opened the case like the issue with thermal paste is why people complain about quality control. The fact they don’t let us do these upgrades more easily despite the price and the fact that you can in fact upgrade begs the question of why they do make those options available
Dude the inside of that computer is beautiful. I almost wish it had a clear back
Almost?
@@ashwin.kalyan Probably because it sounds nice in theory, but in practice, it's unlikely that a clear back to a screen would give the desired view.
That was Steve’s philosophy, whether your eyes ever saw it or not, it was supposed to be beautiful.
"never vesa mounted" - PRICELESS!!!
😉
I am not surprised with Apple's way and choice of applying thermal paste. I work in Apple Certified Repair center and new 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pro machines are all having GPU overheating problems after less than a year of use. And guess why? Thermalpaste. I applied Thermal Grizzly paste on my machine, but due to Apple Certification I am not allowed to apply a 3rd party paste to our clients. Here you go…
Of course they are. You shove anything into small form factor it thermal throttles and melts down.
Mark Wolf If you are talking about hardware this powerful in a form factor like this then sure, but I don't know about anything thermal throttling, and melting down, as you can get some really good small form factor Intel i3/i5 Asus Chrome boxes that will handle the work loads of 80 - 90% of the planet who are not gamers, and/or content creators, that stay cool enough, and don't thermal throttle. Also look at phones I have a Moto G5 + with an Ocotocore CPU, and 4GB of ram that stays cool in my pocket all day long, and even after gaming on it with a heavy game like GTA, or even Fortnite(only tried it a few times to see if I like it, but not my thing) it barely gets warm. the only time I've had it get hotter then I like is when using the included turbo charger, which I rarely use.
@ev3rest I bet you have to suppress a wince every time you're forced to use Apple's thermal goop...
ev3rest isn’t that planned obsolescence and illegal? And what about the thermal paste used in the Mid-2015 MacbookPro11.5 Dual Graphics? Did you ever had to replace it in those models?
Overheating apple products:ONLY the new 2016/2017 MacBook Pro? Is that some sort of joke? :D
Fantastic video man! So well done!!
Great to know! I can stick with my 10-core stock config, having spent $5 more, and lack about 7% performance but keep the warranty. Thanks for saving me the trouble of doing this myself!
Woah, rich guy Curtis with an extra $5. 😂Cheers! Keep up the killer work over on your channel.
The title could have been:"This men is hated by Apple discover why".
lol
jac hug no
“Apples hates him! See why and you will be SHOCKED!”
That would be brash, churlish and childish - that's not Quinn's bag, I think.
The joke
Your head
Apples hate this guy! You will be suprised why!
Were you able to improve temps after using your own thermal paste?
I've been subscribed for years and your videos have gotten better and better. I can tell you really love what you're doing. Keep up the great work
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Snazzy Labs
B - revision of intel 10 core CPU got 300 less mhz - that make it hammer VRM less. PSU not a problem here.
Can't believe I didn't think of this. You're more than certainly correct. VRM cooling on this machine is a joke by the way.
But iMac still can have 18c CPU? That makes 18c hammer VRM even more?
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LPMusicON
If all VRM phases turned on it could handle 18 cores, but if you running application that using less cores - for efficiency reasonable to turne some of them off, and that where we got problem with high mhz CPU. Also i belive 18 cores got less base frequency and less agressive boost.
If the VRM's don't handle a 300mhz upgrade then they are allready stretched pretty thin as is.
VRM's should allways handle way more than what a processor can draw under extreme overclocking, because if one of them fail both mobo and gpu are dead instantly.
Cooling is the main fault of vrm's, if they reach 120c they will wear out insanely fast.
The vrm's on my old Gigabyte 990fxa UD3 was designed for 220w tdp yet i pushed them far beyond that for allmost 5 years before i upgraded to ryzen, they are still going strong but now at base clock on the cpu as it's being used as a mediacenter.
Does it? They both have the same maximum boost clock. Anyone know how the intermediate boost clocks pair up?
Man, the quality of your video production and the content just get better and better with each upload. You are doing remarkable work with your channel. I can do nothing but encourage you to continue. Thank you for all you do. You have my likes!
Thanks so much, Andres!
great video fulfill all of my curiousity!!!! thanks alot man supporting you channel by not skipping your adds!!
i9 x299 hackintosh please!
DragonKingGaav Yes plzzzz 👍👍
I third that request!
I might do this for my next system, if I decide to move back from Windows (unlikely).
Ohhh yaaasss
X5
Linus can tell you all about opening the iMac Pro haha
2:08. 😂
Snazzy Labs that clip makes me cringe so badly
This proves Linus is team was incompetent. Many people has posted videos upgrading the RAM. You win so little doing the CPU updates (the price on of the iMAC pros is reasonable, as time is not free) that is not as many as you will like. If Apple pulls this kind of pricing with the nex "modular" Mac Pro it's going to be a hit, if and only if they fix the rest of the line, or remove it.
Let's assess certain characters in life: *"empty vessels make the most noise"* is what I was taught as a child, and this wisdom seems lost on many. Some people like to SHOUT AND SCREAM AND RANT... and some - Quinn - have a calm, rational, balanced and professional channel, and don't need to BLURT!
@Jaime Duncan: Linus's team dropped the big, unwieldy display on a screwdriver. Unfortunate, but accidents happen to everybody. The real incompetence is that no one at Apple or their associated repair shops can repair it despite Linus being willing to pay the full cost for an out-of-warranty repair.
Such a great video. You definitely push the limits of of upgrading an iMac. That thermal paste thought...wow!!
Ah, that space grey trash can...
What about temps and noise compared to your friends 10-core under load?
Fan curve on this machine is kinda weird. Stays basically dead silent until the point of almost throttling and then the fan speed ramps up to 90% until it cools back down into a reasonable domain. Even under full fan-speed; however, the computer is almost silent. Not unlike the consumer iMac which sounds like a jet engine.
Has anyone ever asked Apple why they use such low quality thermal paste???
@Bobby Brady Also has anyone ever asked themselves the machines fly from China to USA for assembly?
@lenn55, and such crappy heatsinks. 🤦🏻♂️
It take a long time to get the large amount of thermal paste online.
GREAT video Quinn. Been watching for a long time (since before your mission!) and I’m happy to see you back in the groove of things. Hope you keep it up, man.
Thanks so much, my friend! Hope to have you around for many more years to come.
Happy to see you taking off once again (Or gaining back what you once had) Used to watch you all the time back in the day and was upset to see so few people return to watching you when you came back.
Won't get it replaced if it breaks anyways. So what's the problem?
"but i nailed that install" lmfao
Even though sure, I'm a PC enthusiast I am still amazed that you took the risk to gut your Pro and upgrade it ;). Funny and informative video for sure, regardless of which side of the ecosystem you prefer. Glad to see it runs much better for you now.
Dude you're awesome!
What paste did you use? How are the temps/noise?
9:06 I always believed the rumors online to 'blur your serial number', but was it all lies? Can anyone actually do anything with it? Let me know your thoughts!
Good question. I don't think you can get very far-especially on an Apple product when it's tied to an iCloud account that not even Apple can access. I've never had issues, but don't take my word for it. lol.
Yes you should blur your serial. People can set up a Hackintosh with his serial number, or even change it on a real Mac. If too many different computers report the same serial things like iMessage, iCloud, etc can be blocked by Apple for obvious reasons. A normal person shouldn't worry much about it but a TH-camr should, lots of trolls on the webz... The price of fame i guess.
You saved $5, now the real question is what are you going to spend it on?
The Collector can i has lolipop
I don't know, but a special decision like this doesn't come around often and I'm going to have to spend it wisely.
but do not spend everything at once
Thermal paste :-)
The money he saved was spent on the time he spent.
I'm so glad I found your channel! I hope nothing but the best for you! Great stuff
Any diference in the cpu temperature without the crap thermal paste?
i can see Apple releasing an update which disables any Mac if any processor changes made.............
It's not worth the work or effort for like the 1 person on planet Earth that is weird enough to do this. lol
prob they are going to solder processors with a shiity solder to save money on a $3000 computer
Would not surprise me if they did, and they could do it via software, or their custom BIOS if they wanted too, or just go with a BGA package chip which are found in laptops, phones, gaming consoles, etc.. Also lets remember it's been rumored Apple is looking to replace Intel for their own CPU designs so they can do releases on their own schedule, and not when Intel decides to release a new product that fits their needs, and agrees to ship it too them.
Given that this is the same x299 platform they're using for their servers and enthusiast desktops it's unlikely they would go with a BGA model. Others sure, you can buy lots of mitx and a few matx boards that have soldered CPUs complete with heatsinks for cheap.
He's also running the risk of overworking and dammaging the PSU depending on the increase in current draw. That large of a ram increase will contribute significantly to the load.
5:36 Quinn is so hot he needs cooling!
Blower-style.
Snazzy Labs custom loop
water cooling
vapor chamber cooling or even better steam cooling
Somebody needs to GIF that ASAP
Amazing video really!
I would like to know if there is any difference in Thermals you got after installing your new CPU with better thermal paste and better application
Thanks!
Great video @Snazzy Labs, it must be a grate adventure to do that. I have a 2014 15" MBPr that still runs great but I would like to have the courage to open and replace the thermal paste lol. I don't feel comfortable opening that laptop even though is starting to run pretty hot. Keep up the great work!
I love your videos. A kid's dream with expensive computer toys :)
Thanks for watching! :D
thank you for making these awesome videos :)
Lol. This almost seems like a troll on Linus. You were able to mod it, and put it back together without breaking it, AND still advertise that you shouldn’t do what you did because of the tiny benefits over voiding warranty.
Your words, not mine. 😂
apple = butt h*&e
Why am I so fascinated by this kind of stuff. I don't own an iMac Pro (nor would I ever) but I loved watching these upgrade videos he does. Great stuff.
Your vids are good and clear. Great job man!
Why not void the warranty even according to your videos, Apple does not know how to repair these computers anyway so the warranty is a bit useless
Simple. Because if it doesn't break because of user error Apple is forced to give you a new one if it breaks.
D-One yes I get that I think you missed the underlying point of my comment, it was more a joke than anything
Oh.. My bad then :D
@D-One the sad part (or the joke, depending on your point of view) is that Apple will have to give out new ones for replacements because they cannot repair any damaged ones. The incompetence of such a thing...
Steamrick exactly it's all a big joke and yes that is sad
The difference in the PC is that you aren't tied to an evil company for repairs.
Any part broke, just enter newegg or amazon and buy a replacement part, for every single part that you have in your build.
You can also just take your iMac to the store and they'll fix it, but I get your point.
Unless its a screen😉
Also having a separate display for a normal pc means that you can sell/upgrade everything else in any cofig amd/intel and keep the same display
Snazzy Labs They'll replace it, not fix it.
We will have to decline cause the guy wasn't trained to service that. Sorry.
Awesome! Would you be able to upgrade the 8-core to the 18-core w-2295? Seeing that OWC just confirmed a max 512GB ram makes it even more powerful, somewhat closing the gap (just a bit) between it and the new Mac Pro. Too bad it's not user-upgrade friendly...
If it can handle the slightly higher TDP, what are your thoughts on pushing it higher with the w-2295?
Awesome videos and info!
Great video as always, well detailed.
Keep it up :D !
Living for the clickbait thumbnails. Means you are having fun and you know what attracts an audience. If anyone says anything otherwise.. oh well.
I mean, technically, nothing about the thumbnail is untrue. lol. The fact of the matter is that thumbnails like these have increased my view count by 500% on average. They are kind of annoying, true, but the content inside the video only continues to improve and that's what counts-and I'll never put anything in the thumbnail that isn't representative of the video's content.
its the kind of bait that the fish eats tho
I don't find it too clickbaity to be honest. It's an opened iMac Pro which is actually what he does in this video, he opens it to swap parts and him being enthusiastic about it. No boobs, no red arrows, no cats. I think it's fine. What kind of thumbnail would've pleased you?
You seem not to understand the meaning of the phrase _"Click bait"_ - if you see a video with an iMac Pro taken apart as the thumbnail, and Quinn *takes apart an iMac Pro* then... well... work it out.
Who cares? The videos are very good. What more matters?
Kinda disappointed you didn't go full 18 core.... But still amazing.
Why? not complaining, just wanting to know.
GregHousePpTh
The 18 core would be significantly better in some workloads, but worse in others.
The reason he chose the 10 core was because it offers a relatively balanced performance and has good price/performance.
GregHousePpTh
No real performance gain? You'd have to be seriously thermally limited for that to be the case.
dude nice watch! :D im wearing a steinhart ocean ceramic with that james bond nato strap... :D what is your watch?
I want to know how to get in on one of the "Frequent iMac Pro sales." When and where to these happen?
But why the hell would I build spec for spec, if I can build better for cheaper that makes no sense
If you need an iMac Pro, you need an iMac Pro. If you don't, you don't. It's a very niche machine for a very niche market, but if you're in a professional production environment that uses Final Cut Pro, there is genuinely no other option.
Snazzy Labs nice vid man! What did you use for replacement thermal paste?
Snazzy Labs I understand that. Then I'd just buy an imac pro. It's just the spec for spec argument makes no sense. If I want the best, I build the best. If I want a 5000 dollar PC, I'll build to that budget using the best parts available. If I want an imac pro, I'm not going to build a clone, I'll just buy an imac pro.
Enjoyed_Tek Cheap Arctic MX-2.
Demonslayer20111 My underlying point is that the hardware choice, while odd for a video editor like me, is viewed as important in other fields where stuff like ECC memory is required. I'm just sick of the perogative that iMac Pro is "OMG $5K, wHaT a RIP OFF" when, in reality, it's actually competitively priced compared to similarly specced hardware.
User replaced CPU and RAM?
"OMG HE TURNED IT INTO A PC IT'S A COUNTERFEIT IMAC"
What about thermal paste test? If you try hours of renders, is it make a difference?
I did a longer 15 minute export in Premiere and while I didn't publish the numbers, I timed it roughly and the computer was still about 7% faster, so it shouldn't be anything to do with the paste job or heat.
This makes me want to upgrade myself my 2009. I think it's one of the last ones whose screen is not glued and can be more easily taken out. I was wondering whether I could mount it anew... I made the calculus, but it's going to be expensive.
5:35 freaking hilarious
10:34 Apple Replaced My iMac Pro. I'm Still Mad music
I really appreciate your content. I watched another tutorial of yours that you recommended a tool kit. It came in this blue roll up wotsit...can you direct me where to get that?
Did the fresh thermal paste help the new CPU’s thermals at all?
Great video. Thank you!
If I were building a high-performance workstation and it had to be x86, I'm sure I'd go with Threadripper. Big savings, massive multicore performance. Naturally it would run Linux, not Windoze, if at all possible, and that is increasingly possible these days.
don't you mean x64? threadripper isn't x86
You're damn right that Threadripper would be the way to go. Let's see what the Threadripper 2 32-core monster costs when it comes ot market. It's already forced Intel to announce that the highend server skews with up to 28 cores will be coming to the consumer market, where Intel will be getting a fraction of the price compared to selling them as xeon platinum.
for a windows/linux machine yes
If it *had* to be x86? What do you usually use, ARM?
Блядь Россия This is AMD CPU, not ATI GPU.
I haven't been this early since Apple cared about their customers...
Ah, the early days of TH-cam!
Han Aral my Fitbit did the same thing, it's just a smart watch feature.stop being delusional
+Han Aral Don't worry, it was just a joke! I'm typing this comment on an iPad right now. I'm not the biggest fan of all of their products (I have a Galaxy phone) but I have nothing against Apple.
Cheers!
Han Aral Facts don't care about your feelings. The fact is my 60 dollar smart watch counts steps and works on both iPhone and android
+Han Aral I'm not sure if you're referring to my phone or iPad... I have the Galaxy S8, and the iPad Air 2. I used to have an iPhone (My last one was the 6) but I just fell out of love with them. No worries!
Great video, I'm wondering if you have seen any of the thermal throttling that's been occurring on the stock iMac Pros people have been complaining about after the upgrade? A nice add to this would've been seeing exactly which thermal paste you used (and show how you apply it so it's not excessive). I've given up on Apple after 18 years and will opt for workstation mid-tower with 4k display, tired of the severe price gouging. For laptops the latest high end 15" competitors are killing it with price and performance- comparatively. Thanks again for the excellent info.
What did you do with your 2017 tuned up, mounted iMac with Retina 5K Display?
*lol ur $10k imac pro sux xd*
I do disagree with the while that maybe true is doesn't change the fact part when your talking about like for like pc's and bit at around 1 min in. yes technically it does not change the fact but no one can say a 320x240 (240p) 40 inch screen for £300 is of good value just because no one else manufactures them so you can't get them cheaper else where. sorry its a bad argument its of good value as that specific thing cost the same in parts but for a fraction of the cost you can get something better ... how is that a argument.
. the question should be what is the best option for you and whats the best value for money sorry to say it 95+% of the time imo its not a mac for most people
mkbmainpc I used to buy XEON + ECC RAM for a reliable PC. Expensive but worth it for less crashing. That was before Wall Street banks crashed the economy.
Awesome job, are you going to keep the original hardware or sell it?
BTW with all of the changes happening with repair laws those void stickers don't count.
Any chance we may see an updated RyzenTosh with one of the APUs, or 2XXX chips, or following the TR2 release a MacRipper?
Snazzy, what about the temperature differences presuming you added a good thermal paste?
5K monitor for 1.649$ WTF, just buy 4K monitor for half of the price..
Skate6788 that’s not the point of comparing spec to spec price.
But still, 4999$ - imac witch 5K < 4382$ - PC with 4K monitor.. For imac price you can get even two 4K monitors xD
Depends on how much you care about the quality of the Monitor, image, color accuracy, contrast, etc... all those things will be shit on a cheap 4k monitor.
My monitor is UHD, not even 4k and it cost me 1200$...
D-One they are the same thing
Eric What do you mean? whats the same thing?
Still can't understand why someone would pay so much for a iMac Pro. Or any apple computer for that matter. As everyone always says. You can build a PC that is faster for a fraction of the cost.
@@LifebyMarce Why build something similar for a higher cost when you can build something better for a lower cost. The arguement that making a copy is costlier when there is a better option is just a weak arguement.
@@LifebyMarce If you bothered to read the original comment that you replied to you have literally entered into a PC vs Mac arguement and lets be honest even Snazzy cleared up this very arguement in the video stating that his very own arguement regarding mac price was weak if not for the fact that he got it on sale.
He wants to work on osx and not on a hackintosh
You think they have it throttle (and use cheap paste) to make the future switch to ARM processors an “improvement” by using proper pasting and cooling profile?
Hey, Love your channel! I have an iMac (27-inch, Late 2012) which was dropped and now it seems the internal HD has issues as well as the screen is crack, however, I wanted to know if it was possible for me to upgrade this as you have in your video>?
Calling an iMac a "Pro" station is like calling a kid with a squirt gun a professional firefighter.
I mean, no. Incorrect. But ok.
I'm talking about the out of factory ones. I used to use one but it was always underpowered and had horrible thermal management. Cooked its screen to a sickening yellow tint. I've avoided them like the plague ever since.
Grey OfPTA are you talking about Lisa or the latest one?
Grey OfPTA This really has no consumer use (aside from gaming, but no one buys a Mac for that) this machine really is for professional use cases.
To be fair, the iMac Pro isn't really consumer grade hardware. It's a workstation.
So, i watched whole video, now can I comment why building PC seems better to me?
So its not only about specs, and yeah, true, valuable thing in mac seems to be screen, you can still get full setup with higher raw performance, im not looking at wonky apple-only cpu's becouse I personally treat such thing as one huge anticustomer ripoff, but meh, whatever. Comparing raw juice per buck, you van comfortably have ~4000$ for 4k (or 5k? Whats that standard? Thats the trick, you cannot compare 4k to 5k, huh? Truth is, its 5k for this purpose. To make comparing harder. You wont tell me that its consumer friendly).
Anyway, yeah, you can get some better raw juice per buck, but where is that awesome apple service?
Well, that service is beeing lack of service. Their service is ripoff, when with your own build, you can easly upgrade, replace parts at will! And nobody will void your warranty (unless you overclock or delid or so) for your modifications. When you send your lets say GPU for warranty, you have whole machine still working, at your service, working on integrated gpu, or old gpu you had in drawer.
Apple will charge you unreasonable prices for service, when its been confirmed numerous times they give for example 'refub' mobos instead of new ones, when there is even no need for that!
And most precious thing in your computer, the data... Well, say godbye. In PC, except few minor laptops you can plug in and out storage, so even if your mobo goes bad, you have your data.
Another thing. Did apple need raid 0 to crank the reads to 3 gigs? Why my non-raid nvme ssd reads out over 4 gigs? Its not a thing nowadays that is top of the line. If I wanted I could make insane raid array for 8.5 gigs of read and around 7.2 gig of write. But who uses raid0, when you can have raid 10 and not risk your data go bad....
Okay, whatever, my point is, that you are making mistake by saying 'you cannot compare raw horse power, this is apple cpu!'
And if that change in price seems minor, think about servicability, how your data is safe and prone to random f**kup and how screwed can one get by smallest issue with their expensive as living hell computer.
Btw, my setup cost me around 2.500$, and only thing I have worse is RAM ammount and screen (4k not 5k, while I dont even think it is a valid argument)
Good video. I follow the instruction step by step but now my cpu is dead and my macbook is eating dust.
haha! the money shot was hilarious :D
Love from israel!!!
Did you ever visited here? Or you just have pictures of tel aviv on your mac for no reason? 😂😂😂
I visited last summer!
Eh, I prefer Yerushalayim, myself
Noah Mulgay giving the fact that I live in jerusalem I love it as well!
Stop putting people in the hospital when they go to the mount of olives for realising they are saints and other biblical figues! I went and i realised i was Jesus and you locked me up! Lucky i now realised i am Kim Jung Fun so stfu!
I love Israel
Your pcbuild vs the iMac Pro cost analysis was a joke. Did you look to find the most expensive stuff out there? I just specced a computer that was better with 2 screens and it was a little over $4000 that included 2 high end video cards, dual CPUs and a full liquid cooling system.
I will say though, the inside of that machine does look very pretty.... besides their insane amount of thermal... I won’t even call it paste... that’s like thermal cement.
What screens did you use for your comparison? Because say what you will about Apple, they put some really good screens in their devices. Matching that ain't cheap. edit: And I'll bet you whatever you came up with isn't ECC capable.
how many dual CPU boards did you ever see without ECC memory support?
It requires more than just the board. Keep in mind that ECC memory is more expensive than non-ECC, so there's a fairly good chance he cheaped out when trying to stick to his $4K figure.
To be fair intel socket scheme is confusing the heck out of newegg(it wont show c422 xeon boards apart from the gigabyte board shown above even though they are available and sold by them) also an equivalent 5k screen (covers at least P3 colour space) is expensive that building a one is one equivalent imac is not much cheaper than the $4999 asking price
PowerColor Radeon RX VEGA 56 NANO 8GBHBM2 $ 449.99
INTEL XEON W-2145 (Price based on Intel ARK unavailable on newegg ) $1,113.00 ($1,252.69 cheapest on AvaDirect)
Crucial 4GB ECC Registered DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) CT4G4RFS8266 $76.14*4 $ 304.56
Supermicro MBD-X11SRM-F-B $ 255.99
LG UltraFine 27MD5KB-B Black 27" 5K WFHD IPS LED Monitor $1,299.99
SAMSUNG 970 PRO M.2 2280 1TB MZ-V7P1T0E $ 529.99
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Series PH-ES515PTG_BK $ 94.16
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-1000FX 1000W (supermicro uses a 900w PSU) $ 149.81
Corsair Hydro Series H110i 280mm CW-9060026-WW $ 112.99
ASUS XG-C100C 10G Network Adapter(same chipset as on the imac) $ 98.59
Apple Wireless Magic Keyboard 2-MLA22LL/A A1644 $ 67.98
Apple Magic Mouse 2 Model MLA02LL/A $ 75.00
ASRock Add-On Card Model THUNDERBOLT 3 AIC (same chipset as on the imac) $ 79.99
Total:$4,632.04/($4,771.73) or
Without the thunderbolt functionality $4,552.05 ($4,691.74)
the $4k imac though is still a steal (provided you are going to primarily use OSX and do professional video editing)
Which normal person will go for ECC(2666mhz normal timing) instead of buying +4000mhz low timing kit for like the same price per GB and get memory transfer speed over 50GB/s
What thermal paste did you use in the end ? If I had it open I’d have gone for liquid ultra for max performance
Your videos are so much better now than when I first watched you.
370W ought to be enough for anybody.
William Kulich not really
Absolutely not.. there are computers drawing >1000w from the wall easily, they are highend ofc.. but still.
William Kulich not a $5000 pro level machine
My computer regularly draws over 400W, with factory clock speeds, during gaming.
The PSU being rated for 370W actually means that the entire computer should draw closer to 50-70% of that to stay in the high efficiency range. Which means that the entire computer should be using about 260W under normal use (about the TDP of a single 1080ti).
Lol yea right that gpu all one probably uses that much power
i saw that if you purchase the 10 core model and with the other base stuff, when you upgrade you can save more than 5 dolars
Do you have a howto on reapplying thermal compound to Macbook Pro 2010?
Did you make any thermal measurements? And what thermal paste did you use?
Hey, cool video, can you make a hackintosh with a similar configuration of the imac pro and some bench?? Thks!
Expression after saving $5 was super awesome, love ur videos love ur home work and love the energy u put in these videos
Thanks so much for watching!
The music selection in this video was perfect.
Nice job, and damn that thermal paste was shocking !!! Quality control????
Could you try installing a 7980xe in it? It would be really interesting to discover it works!
About that CPU, could you detail me on the specs? I would like to know the turbo boost ratios of the Apple provided Xeon, as well as a CPU Z submission plz, cus I would like to add more information to my database! Thanks!
I can't remember when I found your channel or how, but I'm really glad that I did!
I’m glad you found it too!!
Awesome video - it was hard not to feel sexy after the screen came off! What type of thermal compound/paste did you use after reassembly?
Quin, after skipping a few of your videos for a while(while still subscribed), I can see a big improvement in production and good comedy timing.
Thanks so much Josh. Hope to see you back for good! :D
hi thank you for your share, very useful for upgrade, but could you tell where can i find these cpus for imac pro please? i just cant find them in europe.
Awesome that it worked though! Looks like you can upgrade to the full fat 18-core Xeon too then lol although the cooling system will probably not be able to keep up...that's probably why cinebench scores aren't much different.
You didn't talk about temperatures after your upgrade. Hotter? Cooler? Which thermal paste did you use?
Crazy question... can you swap in a i9-9900k and unbuffered/non-ECC memory? The i9 has a base clock of 3.6 GHz and boosts up to 5 GHz. If you can de-lid and use LM on the die and thermal block, there should be enough temperature headroom to get this CPU to fly. I got a non-Xeon to work in my 2009 Mac Pro, so wondering if this might be a similar situation.
Are the aerials videos at the end available anywhere in the native 5k resolution or are they just the 4K versions from TV 4K?
I love your videos a lot but you saying don't click away kind of makes me want to in a weird way again love your videos lol
Another Snazzy build by Snazzy Labs. I am not disappoint. Thanks for the upload, Quinn. Stay Snazzy.
Would like temperature measurement comparisons with the better/appropriate amount of thermal paste