Most satisfying video. Silverado Frame rust removal, RUST PROOF STUDY
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- Got this truck for nothing. Fuel lines and brake lines have been replaced few months before this video. Doing long term study using 7 different rust proofing on different section of the frame: Oil, Grease, Wax, Por15, Eastwood, Rust-Oleum Rubber Paint, 3M Rubber paint. Stay tuned.
Here is the link to 5 year rust update video trying 7 different methods:
• 5 year rust treatment ... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Using that pneumatic chisel is BY FAR the best way to get rid of rust on any sort of structural steel. Forget the needle scaler, they are a waste of time. Hit that with a 4,5 “ wire wheel after and put on 2 coats of POR15. And youre golden
Exactly. I get 10 comments per week about using needle scaler. Waste of time. They are good for small spots and light rust.
I'm buying a 2003 Astro van in pretty great shape....for $2600..... ExcEPT the rust of the frame is pretty aggressive (but no holes or anything that bad). (I'll be happy if the van lasts me 2 years.)
Should I NOT buy it? If I do buy it, do I need to FIGHT / clean up all that rust? (Parking it on grass exacerbates the rust, is that correct?)
Merlin Cat Is POR 15 worth the hype? Heard mixed stuff on ut
Not sure. I did Chassis Saver on rear frame (por15 alternative) and wax mix on front one side, then grease on the other. Doing long term study
Seamus Mackinaw I painted a front axle with and it came out great. Put it on with a brush and it dried to a very hard finish. It would outlast the truck.
I can feel flakes of rust in my eyes just watching this.
I know right
And washing it out of your hair in the shower lol
RIGHT!?
my eyes hurt just reading the comment lol
Lol yeah. Better get xray in your eyes before mri
This is like one of those pimple popping videos but for men.
Doug Johnson that was hilarious... u r so right
Haha
Dude best comment...i was thinking the same thing
@shotgunmaude yeah.same here.I love these wreching guys... they are crazy enough to do what ever it takes. Entertainment pure!
God I can feel that rust spec sitting in the corner of my eye now.
If somebody created a channel where it was nothing but chiseling rust off of steel I'd probably watch it all day.
Oddly satisfying.
totally bro
Perplexer1 I know right
Perplexer1 I was just going to comment the exact same! Sure was!
My first thought.
Yea, its like pressure washing videos, you don't know why its fascinating but it is.
You should send that bucket of rust to GM
It's engineered that way, RUST = good business.
The problem is that not one of the truck manufacturers are using the right stuff for good corrosion protection. The only permanent coating is an epoxy based paint like POR-15.
1320 foot pole. details, details. I have a 21 year old Honda accord no rust. I rust proof it myself every year with my own undercoating gun and 4 foot homemade wands. Canada
Yet Toyota Tacomas rust so bad they fold in half like a birthday card after a few years lol.
All in how you protect your investment. I've seen 2010 Tacomas with horrific rust, my buddy has an 08 F-150 with scary frame rust due to frame paint flaking offing, and I've owned a Honda Accord that rottted out despite how nice the body looked. I put it on a lift and traded it in to a dealer a couple months later. These days, any brand other than Toyota will be fairly rust resistant. You might get a free year or two. After that, make sure you get it cleaned and undercoated correctly. I have a 2014 Silverado that's 100% rust free, frame-body-suspension. All clean. It cost me 20 minutes a year and a can of Fluid Film.
I could've sworn I felt one of those rust chips being projected at my face.
For those that don't know just because 40lbs of rust came off doesn't mean he lost 40lbs of steel. When Iron combines with oxygen to form rust you gain the weight of the oxygen.
Here in canada we call that weight reduction
10 more years and this truck will be lighter than smart car.
real young prodigy probably get 2.5 mpg better gas mileage now
@@troutjunkie7330 in ten more years you're going to have no truck left
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You just knocked a second off your quarter mile time
Anyone that's freaking out about the strength of the frame being compromised would be really shocked to see what a really bad one looks like
This isn’t even that bad. It’s fixable. At least the owner’s doing until most owner’s being told about a hole in the frame when getting an oil change
@@cherokeefit4248 what do you do to fix the one in the video after removing the rust?
to reinforce it
@@corybrott8455 you don't need to do any reinforcement for surface rust like what you see in the video. Some Corrosion allowance is factored into engineering designs.
@@richcombs4805 that is not surface rust😂
@@Cooldibsit’s definitely not rot. That frame sounded pretty solid to me especially considering he took an air tool to it
I live in the south, where my 2006 Silverado doesn't have one spec of rust. I do hose the frame down once a year with some CRC lube I buy by the gallon. This was just mesmerizing. I can't believe what you guys go through.
I found this video to be very satisfying and informative. Please keep us updated on your progress with rust prevention. Thank you.
I feel ripped off...I spent $1000 on carbon fiber and only saved a couple of pounds in weight.
Dang
At first, I was like "That isn't the proper way to use an air chisel". Then, I was all like "wow, that's an effective way to remove rust."
Thank for your comment on air chisel. I was wondering what was the tool name.
Until that chisel went through the frame 😬
@dsotojc4645 when did it go through the frame? Also I'd rather it did any frame that could go through should be attended to immediately kinda hard to fix a problem if you're not aware of it
a new meaning to rust bucket
Hahaha, should have named the video RUST BUCKET
Just stopping by to let everyone know that the majority of the stuff falling off is an old layer of rusty underbody protection. Not a sea of structural metal.
this is so satisfying to watch
It wasnt for me, hahaha
I was thinking that to!
Frankly, underneath the undercoating and surface rust that was removed, that frame is in great shape. Not one hole.
@pete smyth Yeah frame is good. Body panels toast...😂
Except being thin and weak
@@Toyota-ci3nj but it isn’t, the truck is still around 5 years later
I love how this shows the rot underneath the undercoating. Thanks!
It's just surface rust trapped under the undercoating. If it were rot, that air chisel would have gone right through it.
I've never seen snow in the flesh before, after watching this I'm kinda glad.
Its not the snow thats the issue its the salt put on the road to melt the snow.
It is a mess. You are doing a great job cleaning her up.
This morning about 9:00am today, I went outside to my car to wire brush and add the underbody Rust Converter. Next I will add to the frame Rust-Oleum undercoating to protect the underbody.
Like others have said, I was actually wincing when the rust chips started to fly. When he first started i was like a chisel? Why not the needler. Then i saw the results. Holy crap. Didn't expect that and I would never have used the chisel. Learned something today!
The DeLorian cars from the 1980’s were for the most part rust proof. The frames were dipped in a liquid rubber like substance that filled every inside crack and crevice. There is no reason why GM, Ford, Dodge-Chrysler can’t rust proof their cars and trucks. Even the back side of body panels.
GM actually does dip the frames on there trucks the stuff is cosmoline grease/wax.
In a 10+ years the rubber coating begin to crack - because of different temperatures, sunlight, chemicals, tensions... And through one crack the moisture goes under the rubber, but do not dry. It ot the end of still frame, but from outside it may look good.
Stainless steel,my cuz has one.
Excellent filming, very sharp images!!!
Dude you are working the heck out of that air chisel, good job!
That wax GM puts on their truck frames sure does work well...
Wax holds water 😂
@@jerryfollett310 I was being sarcastic
Rust removal is what I LIVE FOR. It’s so good.
The God damned salt is a major problem
Sure is but without it i would not be able to drive for 4 months
well and the fact GM still waxes there frames not E coating them to save money
im from Denmark and we use salt and it kills our cars i have importet a BMW from South germany and it was fresh as new
yup. sorry to all of you that believe differently. Don't fool yourself. Its not the Chevy, its not the Ford but rather the lack of doing your chores by means of a fresh water pressure rinse the next day it stops snowing, the roads are dry AND the lack of applying any sort of oil or lanolin spring and fall.
or prepare yourself to pony another 50 grand for any overpriced truck for the next 72-84 months. until they hot dip the frames, and outfit with aluminum bodies, stainless lines, rotors, banjo bolts etc, Ile stick to the fore-mentioned and continue driving a rust-free 02. $35/gal of fluid film and $5 at the car wash is short money in the long run.
@@troutjunkie7330 Doesn't sand and pebbles do the job well enough? I avoid purchasing a used car from salt states. The Sierras get 4 plus months of snow and we get by fine WITHOUT SALT.
HAHA! I would never do that to mine! Mine is so bad it would blow a hole through whatever piece I hammered on! Your fuel lines look cherry compared to mine too.
They were all replaced in 2012 and brake lines in 2015
Astro Camper did my brake lines a year or so ago from front to back. The new fuel lines are in a box ready to put on.
that worries me considering you are a mechanic...
Just mind games i guess lol "if I dont see the holes, theyre not there"
Yeah I forbid filming underneath mine PERIOD HAHA
After watching one Astro camper's video on rust removal I started bit by bit air chisel and coat. Thanks for your great idea sir!
One of the most satisfying video's I've watched in a while
look at the bright side, you dont have to buy iron supplement for the rest of your life
ashes ashes, dust to dust, just sit back and watch the GM rust
Willie G still run better than a ford
Not as bad as dodge
dailga my dodge is 25 years old and has stock paint on the frane
My car was made in the 1820’s and I️t has 0 rust
Kevin spacey yes but that was 20 years ago. Im a welder, i work with steel. Zink, which is used in the galvanizing process. The price has gone up over the years, and why would a car manufacturer make a car that lasts a lifetime? Then you wouldn’t buy another one or two. Gotta think business
Early adopters really paid a big price with rubberized under coating products. When they came out initially, they were promoted as the best thing to keep undercarriage protected.
My silverado is the same way. I love the truck in every other way. Never been stuck. Good power. Pulled a few dodges out of some snow drifts. Very reliable ( all things considered). Then you look underneath the ole girl...
It's like being a dental hygienist, with more crawling around.
Wow! This is an eye opener. I bought an Fj cruiser online at an out of state auction. Only to find out that it had so much rust underneath the vehicle. I could not find a repair shop so I had to let go of the vehicle. Wish I knew that I could have gotten rid of the rust just by doing this.
If a repair shop turned it away it wasn't this kinda rust. It prolly had rot and holes forming...
this is brilliant, think I'll get my defender chassis done in a fraction of time now. thanks for the video
all I could think of when he would hammer away then yell 'oh yes' was the scene from full metal jacket in the helicopter.
ththththhthth "GET SOME". ththththhththth "GET SOME, GET SOME BABAY".
lmao
This is pure therapy
you know yor from the NE wen you see this and say "thats not that bad at all"
Greenhondaricer
Ain’t that the truth!
Born n raised 😉
@@TCSwizz2 Wicked Yep
Florida rust🤔
I want to see that used on a genuine NE car 😆😆
@@danlevesque5437 Flood damage from salt water.
I dont know why I find this very satisfying
I just did this today with my truck, and yeah it's as satisfying as in the video. In person though you experience the full effect with chunks of rust flying in your face
When all that rust stared flying off I had Vietnam flash backs to cleaning out a rusty water tanker truck
What did you do after removing all that rust? Wire wheel; rust converter? Undercoating?
That chisel really is amazing. I went on ebay and bought one. Will make restoring my dad's truck much easier
This guy is hilarious.
Reminds me of the rust on my old Volvo.
"If you lick it you can tell it's pure salt" 😂
Nice job. Very effective results.
GM needs to be held accountable. It's not just the frame it's everything great lines fuel lines body panels.
Every time I watch this I feel like im going to get something in my eye.
Welcome to the rust belt. This is just typical with cars in the north. I grew up in Michigan, we would drive cars with the floorboards falling out before 'upgrading'. It wasn't unusual to be welding fridge doors if things got too bad:) This didn't just happen to GM trucks and cars. It's just a part of life and some get the ol' cancer worst/faster then some. Up here you've got more to consider when buying cars for sure. Good video!
I appreciate the difficulty in doing this with one hand.
Idk why but this is too satisfying to watch
Frame still looks pretty good once you get that undercoating and scale off of it and pressure wash it. A nice coat of spray cosmoline once everything dries and you are good to go!
I've found the thickness of cosmoline with even two coats to not be enough...once I've got anything other than super light rust, it needs to be slathered with lanoline based goo (woolwax)
Good idea, what are you gonna use to re-finish or rust proof it?
I’ve never seen this method... very effective!
This was so satisfying lmao! I had to watch it twice
People keep blaming salt. BS. Salt is a known if auto companies haven't learned to cope with that in a much better fashion after 120 years they need to get out of business. There are alloys that do quite well under that level of exposure. Why would they make a rig that would last if they can steal your money every five years for a new one? Sixty thousand for a thowaway truck? Only in the US does this make sense. They own the government and make the rules so it isn't likely to change. Trucks that you have to pull the cab to do a tune up? It just gets worse and worse and the price keeps going up. Take care. Doug
Things to keep getting worse and worse in the prices keep going up and up and car companies keep getting greedier. They have us stuck. And they will keep selling these cheap little new cars for 3 or times what they're worth and giving you less as the years go on.
It really is a bunch of crap isn't it 😒 ?
Douglas Thompson look at 1:08 i have my truck for 13 years now a 06 silverado and i live in texas and my frame hasnt even rusted only my exhaust but changed it to flowmaster 40 setup so yeah salt does that
70 year old metal planes fly fine and look like they will be flying in another 70 years. Cant keep a truck together. They rust away. In Maine, trucks last about 6 or 7 years before the fenders, rocker panels, cab corners, fenders, exc has holes in them.
Daniel Martinez 🤦🏼♂️you missed the point he was dude.
Now you increased your load capacity by 40 Lb!
Good video. Really demonstrates how bad these GM trucks can get. I pulled the bed on mine, pressure washed the entire frame, and coated with POR15. I had to weld in a couple of new rear cross members, as well. An industrial pressure washer will take rust and salt off almost instantly. You just have to be careful around delicate areas.
Everyone rags on Toyota and their rusty frames, but the Dodge, Ford, and GM frames were just as bad in the late 90's/early 2000's. Had a buddy's 99 Silverado snap clean in half on the hoist. Cab in the air, tailgate on the ground.
When it comes to satisfaction, this is right up there with zit popping videos !
Was the frame still strong enough with such severe rust damage?
This is not severe. If that needle punched through, that would be severe.
Truck is still on the road, 5 years later. That frame is fine
pretty eye opening how salt can destroy your truck right under your nose
that is why you protect your vehicle with good paint or undercoating so the salt can't get to the metal ! myself i crawl under my Blazer with a paint brush and a quart of good brush paint ! my Blazer is a 99 and the frame looks good !
So satisfying to watch for some reason
I could watch this all day
i guess you gained 10mpg with all that weight removed now
Not really cause I hooked a RV trailer to it
the rust was holding it together
tdfitch oh Really? Because last time I checked, he chipped away surface rust that revealed a clean unrotted frame. Every truck will have "rust" he even said "if you run it, clear underneath" learn about vehicles before you shit talk please. I live in the most drastically changing weather state in all of north America. I would know
8 trucks. 2 Fords 1 dodge and 4 Chevys out of 5 chevy/ gmc started no issue. The one that wouldnt start got a jump and plowed for 12 hours like all the other ones
That over reaction though.
ur a bummer
@@71sc502 Its a Joke SMH were do you live any way what state ??
Saw a video like this before, looked satisfying, went and bought my own air hammer...well its more satisfying in person lol
That's some real quality metal gm uses!
Sandblasting would not do anything. Sandblasting only removes surface rust. When you got sheets 1/8" thick coming off, you have to knock them off.
Speaking as someone with a lot of experience Sandblasting you can remove almost anything. It all depends on what media you are using and the pressure. The hardest thing to remove is the mill scale that comes on fresh steel from the factory and it won't stand up to 80 grit silica sand for long and less time using metal shot. That being said, you have to spend a lot of time masking off or removing wiring and hoses etc. and then you have to be very thorough blowing all the dust out before coating the surface. Sandblasting will do a better job but the time it takes may make the work prohibitively expensive.
Last time i sent a car out to get sandblasted it came back bare metal. Maybe youre using a shitty sandblaster lol
sand blasting takes it down to bare metal, I have a 45 foot long blasting booth, 120psi I can blow holes in your frame if its thin, from rusting
sandblasting is the fastest way to remove everything ..then you can see what's next..
Ever use a needle scaler instead of the air chisel? After you wire brush what do you coat the frame in?
glad I don't live where it snows. 15 year old truck and only have surface rust on frame which is normal.
it's a good thing your not living in Pennsylvania then ! the salt on the roads in the winter can play havoc on car bodies unless you keep it washed every so often !
Lloyd Dailey Yea i also dont like the cold so there's another reason i dont live up there lol
We don't use salt on our roads much, not that it doesn't snow but because it's too damn cold for salt to do anything...................
Allende NL i live in canada got a 1999 dakota with minimal rust. its all about Rust Check every year from the beginning of the car or trucks life
Im in the same boat. even then i feel like getting rust remover or that lazer thing and painting the frame.
I don't know if it's the OCD in me or what but I think people would really like watching you do this on youtube like this for hours!
LOL yeah watching this is so mesmerizing and satisfying.
I work in Massachusetts and restore truck frames. I use the needle scalers - i would be afraid to damage anything for a customer but that chisel sure does a nice job.
My GMC truck's frame rusted through in only 12 years and could not pass inspection. The whole underside was rusted out! Lousy engineering and pickups are not cheap!
even better, a state without salt on roads or snow
The salt killed it. The trucks aren't perfect, but down south 20+ year old cars still look new underneath.
Love it when you Northerners cry in the comments about rust😂😂
Joe A get some Rust Cure Formula 3000 and undercoat your truck when you buy it, every year
Black Buick and pray to not get in a car crash
Try using fluid film. It will prevent that rust.
Hi Don, I have a rusty frame can't make up my mind between a spray type lubricant. Or par 15 or some other kind of paint. You had good luck with fluid film? By the time I decide I'll have 80 lbs of rust!
@@royboy3597 My 15 f350 looks like new underneath just from spraying it with fluid film a couple times a year. It’s harder to control rust once it starts but fluid film or similar product will definitely help. Sometimes paint can make rusting worse especially if you don’t remove most of the rust. Good luck!
Ok, thanks for the help. I'm going to try your way.
No need for me to worry about this. I had lived in Jersey and my Camry lived 12 years there. Fortunately im now in Florida for the past 12 years and my frame still looks solid and great since living in Florida. I just did a rubberize spray undercoating just for preventive maintenance.
I have tried every technique possible por is great stuff I've prepped Vehicles exactly how you are and in 2 years the stuff comes off in sheets instead of flaky rust I've also did the sand blast prep and used por same thing in two years comes off in sheets the last two vehicles I've done I've prepped them just the way u are used an acid wash and then use an undercarriage coating and topped it with New Hampshire oil it is a product you have to apply once a year and it works amazing it doesn't allow any moisture to get in it leaves an oily film over everything!
By the way the best way to do it is completely sand blast the frame to bare metal zinc coat it,epoxy coat and then put a urethane coating it will never rust again! it's an extremely expensive process because you have to strip the frame out of the truck to do it!!! so simpli it's not cost-effective!
Man that's pretty crazy to think of... I'm guessing 40lbs would have been at least 10% of that frame's original weight haha!
I bet 10% of the weight is undercoating and paint. Wow though. Thats still incredible.
Most satisfying video out there...
I want to do this to my truck. I thought I'd need a hoist, thanks for this video
If you live in the north east and don't wash your car in the winter and rust proof it bye bye car in a few years.
Jay Gold I have learned after many years in New York that undercoating and washing hardly if even slows down the rust, your better off saving that money towards a new truck. I never washed or undercoated my truck and my dad did and both our trucks looked the same in seven years when we got rid of them, now he doesn't even wash his new one ever. I wash mine in the summer but I don't wax it because the frame will get all rusty and I'll be spraying it with undercoating to trade it in before the paint ever fades.
Fluid film you vehicle once a year and you don't have to do car washes all winter. The absolute WORST thing to do in the rust belt is to park your car in a warm garage every night. You end up melting the salty slush stuck to the underside of your vehicle, and the additional warmth helps speed up the chemical reaction that forms the rust in the first place, plus the salty water seeps much deeper into the frame and body panels. Keep the vehicle outside in the cold and only wash it when you get a warm snap above 10-20 F.
fluid film them
Silly question but where do you get rubber bands that thick? I’d like to try to rig my air hammer like yours… My 2002 Silverado frame looks just like this.
Anyone remember "Rusty Jones" undercoating franchises back in the 70's? My in-laws '72 Suburban was virtually uninspectable after just 7 years...even after "rust-proofing. Someone told me they were using recycled metal to make frames and bodies back then. Seeing all the rust, I can believe it.
this was way too satisfying to watch.
After seeing this, I think I'm sold on the aluminum frames the new Ford pickups have.
FORD DOES NOT HAVE ALUMINUM FRAMES ITS THE BODY, FRAME STILL IS HIGH STRENGHT STEEL
You fool person
Easton M frame is not aluminum buddy. Its just the body.
Spray phosphoric acid,then, once all clean,spray and fill up cavities with well used diesel engine oil.
It will stick very well and protect well too.
the soot in diesel used oil make it real sticky.
Man , that was very satisfying! 😊👍
My 01 Ram1500 frame has held up great in NE. I'm really impressed. Doors and bed are disintegrating . You can't win. 5.9 will keep running forever. Rest of truck will be gone.
I'm going to build my frame out of treated lumber, it will last three times as long.
All brands are alike; Chev, Ford, Toyota, Ram......... it's all the same to salt. I say we sue the states that use road salt claiming "Destruction of Private Property"!!!
8:20 "you can actually rub it.... and if you lick it, its just pure salt" lmao life hacks 101
When I see this I am thankful I live in South Fl. Nothing like happens, unless you live by the ocean and you run through flooded streets after a major storm which happened last year when we had 48 hours of rain.
So satisfying to watch
salt should not be aloud to be used on the roads
It's yust for people who can't handle ice!
Allowed not aloud
always a grammar nazi on every video....and now desperate grammar nazis looking for old comments lol
Gm shouldn't coat the frames in wax
Water shouldn't be allowed to freeze
I tried this in my jeep chassis and it works a treat . Quick and easy and makes a huge difference to the look of the chassis . It’s noisy but works fantastic.
Now you just need to grind pop cans to dust and you got 1 hell of a batch of thermite
first thing i thought of when i saw that bucket of iron oxide. LOL
Props for doing that one handed for real 😂
That actually looks like fun