The Big Picture and a Petty Deity
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Presented at the 5th annual 'Imagine No Religion' Conference
in Vancouver British Columbia.
Music by Monster On Sunday from the Baby Eater album monsteronsunday.com/
Here is a reference for some of the things I said about Louisiana schools.
www.motherjones.com/blue-marbl...
Third world ignorance with first world arrogance is indeed a dangerous combination
Indeed
Succinctly put
In America, lots of people try to change the facts to fit their worldview, instead of changing their worldview to fit the facts.
MrZapparin if so then how come other nations are ahead of us in education
But America has basically institutionalized it, that's the difference.
That's not entirely true, Americans simply don't try.
America. When you say America, what are you really saying? America is not only the United States. We need to stop with this notion that Americans only live in one of the 50 states.
That's religious thought in general. Due largely to human cognitive biases.
flat world.. dragons.. witches..
sounds a lot like minecraft to me
The earth is flat..........its revealed as we are in the days of revelation the last book of the bible.
Tyalbo we are in the last days, but the earth is round
Because all those Christians over the last 2000 years had it wrong when they claimed they were living in the last days, but you, YOU ARE living in the last days. Got it. Also turns out Jesus was full of shit when he told the people around him some of them would see him come back before they died. Sure thing.
the earth is spherical but the bible does NOT say that. it describes the earth as round and flat like a disc.
Shawnaldo75
Because flat-earth is more fun! We live on a giant frisbee!
Wheeeeeeeee!
Aron Ra is like a friend who will tell you that you have some schmutz on your face just before you go over to talk to the girl at the other end of the bar. He wants you to win, that’s a true friend. In this video Aron is being a USA patriot to all of us by saying that we have snot running out of our nose of our country...
ultramegaroytrombone Sorry for comment necromancy but is Schmutz used in the US as a leanword?
Odd scenario, but ok.
@@arnekrug939 not sure what you mean by leanword exactly but yeah we use Schmutz to refer to dirt or mud or anything like that.
@@longleaf1217 Synonymous with (shit) lol
@@longleaf1217 Probably meant loan word.
If America spent half as much on science and education as it does on the military then the whole world would be begging to be it's friend rather than being afraid not to be..
the world doesn't work like that.... it's the survival of the fittest
@@jumajasjas2925 it's been a very long time since the "fittest" also meant biggest, ugliest, fattest, dumbest, and most violent.
That's the problem with Christianity, it sees it as necessary to be stupid and blindly aggressive. Stop living in the stone age, my friend.
These days, in 2019, America has pissed off its once allies and totally chucked the Kurds under the proverbial bus. It is no one’s friend and no one is terribly afraid of it any more, since it’s military is now for rent to the highest, cash, bidder.
@@jandrews6254 eh, France and England have had their hundred year long spats before, and they started making up before Brexit became a thing.
and Germany has raped and pillaged Italy many times, such as German mercs turning around to burn Rome because the other side has a bigger paycheck, or because the Italian dictator was an idiot, or that other time with the German mercs, or the other other time with the German mercs. maybe its just a German merc thing?
Or the numerous times Germany fucked over France and the rest of Europe.
my point being that whatever a country does presently, will eventually fade if a new national identity is forged both internally and internationally.
@@jumajasjas2925 Dude, america is being mocked because of its military budget. War is a dying trend. Peace is becoming more and more common.
boy am i glad that in the Netherlands even the conservatives are non religious.
Lucky :c
And y'all can smoke pot. That's why you don't have asshole lunatics like we do.
still some assholes less on the lunatics
Hope you enjoy the free rape gangs and legions of uneducated backwards 3rd worlders you absolutely treasonous politicians send to replace you as a dutchman.
@@chrisbucci5769 Geert Wilders is an asshole lunatic supported by Steve Bannon and others like him running and getting far too close to occupying the highest position of government in the Netherlands.
"And he's always watching you. Even when you're on the toilet." I actually used to think about that when I believed. And I was always worried that, due to God being omnipresent, I was shitting on God.
darklightnova You were shitting God into/unto God.
Smilley MLK what if he's into it?
darklightnova I like to think he's there watching me when i jack-off..
helps me finish faster ;)
darklightnova Nothing says religious devotion like giving God a Cleveland Steamer.
Nothing wrong with that - according to believers that's what atheists do
I am an American....and it terrifies me daily
+XuntosIzor And so it should terrify you everyday, - Here is a story regarding your Godless USA. Here is how it treats UK Tourists: Why don't you write to your senators about a woman from the UK who visited the USA on Holiday and she took ill. She was charged £300,000 in medical bills, that is the thanks she got from your Country. That is enough money to buy a large house. There are 473 shares. People reading this story won't visit the USA! I certainly wouldn't go there if this is a representation of the new Godless USA who don't give a damn about ill people SEE: www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3452767/British-woman-TRAPPED-America-falling-ill-visiting-daughter-racking-300-000-medical-bills-not-covered-insurance.html
blonde7000 American healthcare is atrocious. That, and our education system are horrific.
+XuntosIzor I agree. I always wanted to visit the USA, but after reading that if you take ill you can be charged £300,000 Pounds, enough to buy a big house, it is worrying. The Crime rate is terrible. When Children grow up learning there is no God. We are Apes in Trousers and once your dead that is it and the 10 commandments are a farce, that includes Though Shalt not Murder and Honour your Mother and Father and do not steal etc.. They get depressed. This is in part why you read of School massacres in the USA. A woman wrote to me to say her Daughter broke her arm in the USA, she was charged $1400 Dollars for a Bandage and some Physiotherapy. Obama was on TV at the start of 2016 pointing out that he had received letters from Parents whose kids have been shot. He wanted to amend the gun laws on two occasions, The people of Texas (Where Aronra comes from) Took to the streets in protest with their guns. That is what the USA is becoming. They could not careless about the fact that Children died after being shot. They mentioned a website that shows how many have been shot each day in the USA with stats for Injuries and Deaths. I read the stats 1st January to 6th January and it was horrific. At first I thought it was yearly, it was not, it was daily. Aronra get paid to travel all over Europe preaching his Gospel "There is no God" on one big holiday paid for by his followers. He should spend more time in his State of Texas, take to the stand and fight the Medical Care System and the fact that Children are being shot, or is he too scared to do it. It is easier to attack God and get paid for it?
blonde7000 You don't have to preach to me about the issues in my country, I am in the thick of this. I don't know anyone that is blind to our problems as a nation. I can say for a fact that religion is not going to make things better in the USA. The healthcare, education, gun control, violence, corporate and political greed, military privilege, white privilege, sexism, and racism issues are not caused by a lack of religion in this country. In fact, this is perhaps the most religious "first world" country on the planet right now. All of our problems stem from corruption in the authority establishments and socioeconomic inequality. Removing religion would actually solve more issues than cause them; for example, there is a "cult of ignorance" growing in our nation that is fueled entirely by a religious agenda that seeks to systematically remove higher learning, critical thinking, and science entirely from schools in favor of never questioning authority or religious dogma. They are an aggressive third party that uses manipulation of the gullible, faithful, and/or the uneducated religious masses to fund their war on education and science in America. All the problems you mention cannot be solved until Americans as a whole have had a paradigm shift and reject those in power that seek to keep people ignorant and impoverished.
I'm an American Educator in Texas that majored in history. Imagine how *I* feel. Especially when I know that whatever the Texas board of Education decides to do pretty much screws up the textbook market for everyone else. Every time I hear someone misquoting the Constitution or claiming the myths mentioned here, I feel like screaming and punching a wall.
I'm a lawyer and I can confirm it is extremely labor intensive to sue the state. State governments have a way of carving out niche loopholes for themselves that don't apply to private business. I get it, however, to a certain degree. Suing the state and winning means taking tax payer money, and we should protect it. But, and this is a big one, it allows the State to get away with some terrible things that private business cannot; and that's unfair and unjust.
The biggest problem with suing the state is the doctrine of sovereign immunity, in other words the faults belief that since the states derive their authority from God, they can do no wrong. If lawyers know that since the states do not derive their authority from God, by definition the states cannot be sovereign and therefore cannot hide behind the doctrine of sovereign immunity.
But that should be a defensable use of tax money, because the state will in the long run win on a well educated population, both financially and for social reasons.
@@MrChristerj The government wants people to be stupid, not well educated. If people where educated the government would not be able to control the people as easily as they do now. Nor, could the state hide behind, "God immunity".
AronRa is the hero we didnt deserve...but never knew we needed!
Agreed!!!
I live in Louisiana. He's correct. It's sickening.
+Elijah Trent Why not move out. Why live in a place where you're surrounded by fear, hate and ignorance.
Old Man from Scene Twenty Four Easier said than done. Most people in this state make below the median income (about $55,000yr). If you make $35,000 here, people think you're middle class (even though that's not true). With that kind of income you can't just up and move to a more progressive state where the cost of housing and living is much higher. Most people I know (including myself) have two jobs so they can pay the bills. Not only that but every year the jobs leave our community and what few mediocre paying jobs exist are seen as blessings that people aren't so quick to give up to move somewhere else. Plus moving to a place where there is no family or safety net can turn into a complete fucking disaster should you make a mistake. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. I don't want to leave my home I want to change it.
+Elijah Trent _"I don't want to leave my home I want to change it."_ -- GOOD FOR YOU!!! It annoys me when people say things like "If you don't like it, why don't you move?" My response is "Why should I? Why shouldn't I demand that it get _better_ instead?" I'm glad to see someone with the same mentality.
blonde7000 But it's the bible thumpers in this country that are fighting tooth and nail against socialized medicine. You don't seem to understand how far reaching the corruption of religion is. The southern states have the highest religiosity, worst education, lowest general IQ, worst heath care, worst human social atrocities, worst social services, worst... etc, etc. It is religion in this country that _causes_ the kinds of crap that you read about, that makes America so looked down upon.
We ARE fighting the sort of thing you point out BY fighting religiosity. Religion is the single largest bane to civilized society.
+Dienekes You make some good points here. I saw president Obama on TV in tears after he received letters from parents whose children were murdered by guns. He wanted to change the Gun laws so that background checks could be made on people purchasing Guns. The people of Texas who I regarded as low IQ took to the streets with their guns in protest, they could not careless about Children being murdered. Aronra is from Texas, maybe he should be giving seminars on what it does to families when children are being shot. Is religion the real reason why people get charged a fortune for medical treatment? If it is, even I am angry, because that is not the religion in the Bible, nor is it Christianity. The Bible does not say "Go out and become Doctors, make money out of the Sick and Vulnerable, sell your medicines at a high price and God will bless you" I know there are con artist churches that pretend miracle cures have taken place and make money out of it. There are others "Send us your money for some piece of Cloth or similar, claiming it will cure you" This is just as bad as Aronra preaching "There is no God and getting paid for it" Churches get attacked when they do wrong, yet Aronra gets praised, Also I don't see any attacks on Satan Worshippers. It is all one sided against the Bible and God. Is religion the reason why the ill are charged a fortune in the USA?
"How can you appreciate nature if you know so much about how it works?" was the ridiculous and oxymoronic question I was always asked due to my interest in science and the details of Life, the Universe and Everything; these people thought that knowing how something works takes the wonder out of it, when it actually makes it more amazing and brings up more fascinating questions; just as with 'magic tricks' some want to appreciate what's really happening while others get mad if their illusions are shattered.
This is mortifying. To have people being taught this stuff in classrooms is. More than saddening, I'm truly fearful for our future as a nation
What stuff?
@@mistylover7398 young earth creationism and other religious extremism being taught in the classrooms
@@charmxsbeanie4726 can't let this happen anymore
@@mistylover7398 indeed
@@charmxsbeanie4726 let's fight against this mindset and poison 🙂
That guy who thought the Earth has eight moons had probably seen one of those charts showing the phases of the Moon, and assumed that each one was a separate object.
The joke around time 15:00 is sadly true.
I live in Europe. And yes, the US are the butt of jokes about ignorance and stupidity. Just today a US couple hauled a buffalo calf into their car because they were "afraid it could freeze". The calf died and the general reaction on various boards this was posted to was not outrage, it was mostly an apathetic "tsk. Amis, what did you expect?"
The US are currently mostly seen as the equivalent of an international schoolyard bully. Stupid, but strong, and only staying afloat by pushing the other students around. Some suck up to him and pretend to be his friends, but in fact, nobody can really like that stupid git, everyone's just afraid of him, and happy if he beats up someone else instead, everyone's humoring him and playing along to his whims, because that way at least he leaves you alone.
The mere idea of teaching Creationism like it had anything to do with reality is simply completely impossible to fathom. And this from someone who lives in a country that has a concordat with the Vatican that makes it MANDATORY to have two hours of religious education per week in schools. A politician that as much as tried to consider pushing that agenda can as well kiss his career good bye because he'd be seen as some kind of madman for even bringing it up, let alone wanting to teach something.
Again: We have MANDATORY religious education in public, state funded schools. We're not talking about any kind of religious schools or church run schools, this is mandatory in public schools!
But maybe that's the very reason religion simply doesn't play a role in our lives. After getting to hear that drivel twice a week for 8+ years, you have heard enough of it for more than a life time.
Hello,
I am Dutch, the catholic part. I know Catholicisme and the protestants enough to know that Catholocisme is for the better part of 50 year not strong in Europe. Science is not considered important. We accepted evolution, we burned our hands on Galileo Gallilei We are not so obsessed. We are taught things like love they neighbour without considering his or her religion. That is not so with those protestants in the USA. The bible is to be considered Litteraly. And it really is indoctrination. Frightening. So if religion is taught at there schools it wil be horrible. Do not forget that they start with the hell thing when the kids are 2 to 3 years old! So to doubt faith just for a second you go to hell. So you train yourself not to doubt. Result: No free though, no proper education and most probably a collapse that will pull us with them. Think Trump president and a new Muslim attack. Throw in a few atom bombs (pun intended) and we have our armageddon.
+Great Britant Tell me about it, because my history teachers certainly didn't.
I guess I didn't play that game, I just beat the crap out of them.
The dummies would always pick on me because I was the smallest at 60 lbs & 4 foot 8. It was always the seniors on the football team at Holy Trinitym because they were incredibly stupid, only remembering for 6 weeks that I beat the crap out of them. (Mantis shrimp can remember for 8!)
They would come around & use my trigger "Know what I'm going to do to you?" My response was always, "Not HALF of what I'm going to do to you." Strangely enough, when I got through with my half, they never got around to their half.
MosesBad Problem is that due to stress people resort to the easy answers. And that is religion, it got an answer for everything. Where science is allways in "doubt".
MosesBad Logic does not come into it. There is some interresting psychological research that shows that peoples decision are not the result of reason but that the reason for the decision is put into it later. Example: Supose I ask you to go skydiving with me and you answer negatively and then you explain why like you do not have the money but in reality you are afraid of heights but you are not aware of that.
The Civil War was about State's Rights. The Rights of the individual states to own slaves! That is kind of like saying, "No, I did not cheat on the test. I was just cross-checking the answers to make sure I passed."
Ba dum tss!
What you say is not untrue, but the difference is that the racist Confederacy, with its supporters today, insisted the war was about general states rights pretending it had nothing to do with slavery. THAT'S why claiming "states rights" in this context is considered disingenuous and ultimately racist, because they are trying to say, "It had nothing to do with slavery".
But it most definitely did. You can tell by today's Republicans who claim they support states rights but then fell free to intrude on states any time they feel like it, if states try to legalize something they don't like, etc.
*standing ovation*
Highly underrated xomment, here!
7:55 "We oppose the teaching of Higher Order (sic) Thinking Skills, ... critical thinking skills..."
1) No wonder America is heading down the toilet.
2) Missing hyphen. 5 points will be deducted from the Texas Republican Party.
It's an acronym not an anagram, so you also lose 5 points ;-)
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Both of your houses lise 10 points because I am the headmaster and can do it
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CoolHardLogic Would love to see a video from you on this. As an American, I find these facts insulting and humiliating.
I've been hating on Texas and Florida too much. I need to open my black heart to Louisiana, too, just for the Mark Twain comment alone.
The only disrespect Twain should have is saying that the movie made about him if you could say that because that thing is batshit crazy
Bruh Twain is a respected author in my state hearing this is WACK.
Thank you for being a voice for millions of us peaceful, law abiding, compassionate and reasonable minded atheists. To me, one of the most important messages that needs constant dissemination is that: Law comes from society's collective value of human life (to minimize suffering and maximize happiness), and NOT from a deity. Thanks again.
🙂😎
"...these textbooks claim that the existence of the Loch Ness Monster 'disproves' evolution!"
What's wrong with the people who claim that!? Even if Nessie did turn out to be real and a plesiosaur, that wouldn't disprove evolution! If anything, it would just prove evolution right, since a tropical marine animal like a plesiosaur would have to adapt and change over time in order to live in a cold, freshwater lake.
The funny thing is that even though, in the Netherlands (Holland), we don't have an official separation of church and state. It is considered political suicide, when our politicians actually dare to include any religious content into their political agenda. Religion over here has retreated to small rural towns and is in general not talked about at all. It's not part of most of our lives or seen as a form of tradition, instead of actually an ideology. Also the actual religious people here don't push their agendas at all and the nonreligious also don't go out of their way to talk about religion vs atheism, live and let live policy seems to be the gist of it
And then there's the good o'l USA, which does have indeed separation of church and state. And it is considered political suicide to say you're not religious and is also one of the most religious countries in the world.
On paper it seems the wrong way around doesn't it :P
Same here Bitch!
If these politicians are the best candidates, we are fucked.
And how many people does Holland have again?
I want to move to your country SO bad! Getting burned out on this childish crap over here. Better start learning the language. See you soon!
If I were a teacher I would totally show my students videos by AronRa.
I would also.
AronRa, are you sure you're not a comedian? You're an amusing guy. Been watching your stuff recently, and I really it, and appreciate your efforts to call out religious insanity. Please, keep it up! You speak for many of us, who are either too afraid to or are unable to properly articulate facts at hand. Thank you so much!
As someone who went k-12 in north Texas, I definitely remember being taught that the civil war was fought over states rights. I’m glad I now know how untrue that is.
this guy is right on the money, we need many more like him, especially since we lost hitch..
Yeah, AronRa gave me a shout out. A high school friend drew my picture as " Duck Dogders in the 24th and a half Century" You made my day AronRa.
If this doesn't wake you up I don't know what will!
Land of the fee and the home of the slave. Just saying. lol
Gary Lucas
“Welcome to the United Snakes. Land of the thief, home of the slave. Grand imperial guard where the dollar is sacred and power is God.” -Brother Ali
Gary Lucas God bless the white man and only the white man. This country went down hill after we let women vote. I think that's what these nut jobs are thinking.
League of voices, please add some quotation marks.
I live in. Nirth carolins and we have neen on the same level as the others named here. We want to chance but tge republicans have control.
ecstasy.apostasy , I saw this comment, and the only thing I could think of was "Uncle Sam Goddamn". Glad I'm not the only one
My fundamentalist Christian brother and his wife home schooled their children here in Canada using text books from Texas which even managed to weave Bible verses into their math text books. I called the local board of education while they were still in grade school, to let them know that these children were not registered with the board when they moved into their district. They sent an inspector to check them out. The kids were registered, but the board was unable to stop their teachings, because their only criterion was that "learning is taking place." Years later, they moved again, and again failed to register their kids in the new school district. I called the board again. This time, their oldest child was now highschool age and the rules had changed. In high school, the criterion is more rigorous. So they were forced to send their oldest child to high school, and when their other children became highschool age, the board of education made sure that these children also attended high school.
Obviously, our relationship is strained. But I did this because I care about the kids and how they would integrate with the rest of society.
You did the right thing for those kids.
You know it's bad when your state's educational standards could sound hilarious in a comedy skit.
I watched a sci-fi show recently where the crew of the ship were watching some event unfolding many light-years away - and they went to assist at their "warp speed". Didn't anybody tell the writers that looking at something that far away was also looking that far back in time? This ignorance is endemic to the species with the occasional bright spot burning like a candle in the darkness here and there for a short time.
Rand Huso If they reach something light-years away they could certainly watch it in real time. No paradox.
Rand Huso Watching the TV show "Science Fiction Theatre" from the 1940's is almost scary for how they turn science into magical ideas. It has a very sketchy format, start with science and end with science fiction, which makes me wonder how folks understood the real from the fake in those times. The writers excelled at finding and leaving that bit of doubt that magic? works. There were only two or three channels in the day and a generation in the 40's grew up with that, I do not think there was a TV show that would have helped correct misconceptions from that oddly great show.
What show was this? I know in Star Trek at least they have "subspace" technology that allows them to observe and communicate faster than light (though it's still finite).
+Rand Huso travelling faster than the speed of light supposedly would make time go in reverse so it actually makes total sense, assuming warp speed is faster than light.
+silentpillager No it doesn't as a warp engine does not circumvent relativity directly but cheats by influencing the arrangement of spacetime. Nothing ever moves "faster than light" but the ship still reaches its destination sooner than a ray of light could do without having a warp drive... Stricty speaking the ship will not really move at all, it sits peacefully inside its normal space bubble, but the drive will move external space around this bubble and achieve the movement illusion.
You could compare it to a railway if the locomotive was nailed down in place and the rails would be shoved fore and aft... only 3 or 4 dimensional in effect.
But it has already been mentioned that to realistically use such an engine you also need some kinds of detection method that allows you to e.g. notice an object you might collide with sooner than you reach it or you might still collide, which means all ships with such FTL abilities can look at objects in some distance in real time and are not quite reduced to the abilities of the Hubble telescope which does look into the distant past.
God is the adult version of Santa Claus.
As a uk teacher,I find it unbelieveable that the children of the usa have to endure this type of education system. Shocked...
k Tomo it's literally like three states out of fifty, and most likely based on district. That's like being shocked that Germany, Netherlands, and Austria, in certain cities, refuses to teach that chocolate can make you fat if over indulged in. Is it incorrect? Yes. Can it piss you off? Yes. Is it indicative of a larger problem? Not really. Most of our problems with math, science, and reading come from inner city districts, which I agree are lacking in funding, and passionate teachers. In conclusion, while I agree it's bullshit to teach such crap, it's equally bullshit to take a handful of states, and hold that as the national standard. We can not battle reactionaries, by being reactionary. This ain't a forest fire, we can't battle it with fire.
“The existence of the Loch Ness Monster disproves evolution.” Really? Well shit, let’s find the damn thing! Shouldn’t be too difficult to find a 65 million year old freshwater leoploradon, should it
Looks like Louisiana is on the cutting edge of batshittery.
I was there. It was a great talk to hear in person. I even got to meet Aron Ra after too.
BOHICA DropShort Cool.
Gluteus Illuminatus Nice to see Louisiana is doing it's best to make Kansas look better by comparison.
Gluteus Illuminatus And on the trailing edge of human progress.
+Gluteus Illuminatus Everyone has to be good at something, I guess.
When Aron said "Does anyone here watch 'Doctor Who'?" and the crowd cheered I expected him to respond with "Okay, barely any of you." XD
In Texas I was told the south was “fighting for their way of life” during the
Civil War, and it was over states rights.
One is misleading, the other very wrong.
John Oliver said it best with something on the lines of“if the civil war wasn’t for slavery, someone should go and tell them that.”
Brilliant Aron, Thank You! This lecture should be required education in all school curriculum, starting in grade school and even thru college.
Raised in the south but lucky to have had History teachers with some backbone who taught the hard truths about our country's past. I remember my junior year history teacher saying "No one is gonna tell a black man he can't teach the truth about slavery, at least not in my classroom.", and only now do I understand what he meant.
You know, I used to think I had an average American education. Maybe a little above average since I was mainly in honors classes. Apparently, I was lucky to get the education I did. :P
StrawberryEggs **hugs** I believe in you
You were. I know non-religious folk who still think you need to get circumcised. It's sad.
God will go away if we stop thinking about him. So long God!
+David Roberts If you could make god go away. It would be the greatest event in the history of the planet Earth. (s)he is the biggest culprit for almost every war in history. The plagues that wiped out millions and millions of people. The "donations" to the churches and all other religious buildings around the world , that are supposed to help the needy. are being used to help the people who run the organizations. Vatican City must be worth billions. All bought through donations. It will take more than us (people) to stop thinking about a "god" someone very wordly important must "step up to the plate" and abolish religions. Just like slavery in the 1800's . It has to be done, we as people will never "develop beyond " where we are at the moment. There are 100's of religions believing of 1,000's of gods. at the best possible odds, the chance of there actually being a god is !,000,000 to 1. That is a bet you will loose a buck on every time.. Just like George Carlin said " there is no easter bunny, no Santa clause, no loch ness monster, little green men on Mars. And their is no god. There can't be.
+David Roberts I think therefore I am, I think therefore God isn't
first step ... stop capitalizing god... he dosent deserve it...
hold df up bitch God does exist religion is the problem so stfu
+Herbert Morphis because god is real just not man made gods the bible is based of a deity jesus a man made god humans have no image of god and it scares them so like a shitzo they make shit up to adapt to there own reality i never said the bible was true lmao wtf religon is man made you cant limit a gods form god exsist just no one knows what it is the universe is ever expanding somthing expands it reality is 99•9% real meaning somthing its capable of all being falsr and if lifes an illusional perception some thing casted the illusion i pray to that god lmao not religous belifs so god does exsist just not these fairy tales
So much for hope for the future :( we need more AronRas in the world
This is horrible. I love my country, and this video has so much truth in it, that I almost wanted to cry.
You love the land and some of the people but not the history and powers that be past present and unfortunately future
@FUCK GOOGLE you are a awesome.
I’m lucky that my schools didn’t sensor history but instead taught the way it should be taught
Censor, not sensor
The bible is a just a childish book of fictional stories.
+Poseidon63 Has it occurred to you that Aronra is making an idiot out of you. He get paid by his followers to travel around Europe preaching their is no God? I wrote to him about this and he never replied. His Organisations claims to be non profit making, yet in the early to mid 2000s members of his team stole millions of dollars. When I point this out, no one says anything, the attacks on the Bible and God go on and on and on. It gets on my nerves reading these posts everyday that I mostly just delete them. Aronra is no different to you, me or anyone else presently alive. He was not alive 2000 to 6000 years ago to witness anything. I don't know why people believe everything he says? He is a con man making money out of his education. He uses TH-cam to get his five minutes of fame. I cannot stand people like him. Why doesn't he fight proper causes, such as the USA healthcare where tourists get charged over £300,000 in hospital should they take ill? Or in the UK where 91,000 ill people have died after losing their sickness benefits, many found committed suicide or starved to death with nothing to eat in their own homes, or ill people put out on the streets of Britain in rent arrears after the Government stopped their sickness benefits. What about people in the USA like Aronra's followers after leaving school, go back and murder fellow students and teachers. They too have the same attitude, "There is no God, the Bible is a farce and so are the 10 commandments, They go back to School after reading this garbage and kill people" I am just about sick and tired of people like you and Aronra and anyone else, coming on Here acting as the Anti Christ Brigade and saying and doing nothing about causes like I have outlined here. Aronra has no idea if God exists or not, nor does he have any idea what happens when we die? If a church makes money out of God, it gets attacked by people like you, yet nothing is said about Aronra? Why is this? What about Satan Worshippers, why aren't you on Social Media attacking them?
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"Or in the UK where 91,000 ill people have died after losing their sickness benefits, many found committed suicide or starved to death with nothing to eat in their own homes, or ill people put out on the streets of Britain in rent arrears after the Government stopped their sickness benefits"
I live in the UK so you'll have provide sources because I not heard that and I have lived here for 65 yrs..
"If a church makes money out of God, it gets attacked by people like you, yet nothing is said about Aronra? Why is this?"
Because first of all churches are tax exempt Aronra isn't, second most people in churches are emotional coerced to give money they can ill afford just so that these pastors, not in all cases, can live a lavish lifestyle,
"What about people in the USA like Aronra's followers after leaving school, go back and murder fellow students and teachers"
I think you find that most of them were christian.
Here is an uncomfortable truth...........
The USA is the most religious country in the western world, but has the highest crime rate, murder rate, divorce rate, highest rape rate and 91% of prison inmates are christians.
Norway, a non religious country is a relatively crime free country as is Sweden, Denmark,Finland to name a few.
Religion is dumbing down the USA,50 yrs ago you were number 1 for technology in the world now you are number 17.And that's why it deserves to be criticized.
If you believe in nonsense, you are ignorant and need to be educated, and that's what Aronra tries to do.
+Poseidon63 And here are the death statistics of dead people in the UK, who all died after being put before ATOS since 2008. 91740 ill people died. Another firm called Capita are cashing in, one of its assessors was making £20,000 per month declaring ill people fit for work. These are areas that people should be attacking, Not God or the Bible. This is pure evil, Firms making monies out of the UK Tax payers whilst ill people end up dead. voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/08/27/known-number-of-deaths-while-claiming-incapacity-benefits-nears-100000/
blonde7000
I agree, it is shocking but not unusual.
+Poseidon63 The point is the deaths of ill people is wrong? Why haven't the UK Government been brought to justice over these deaths. They know that removing ill people from benefits will mean they have no money to pay to keep a roof over their heads, also that they cannot buy food or pay bills. They know employers will not take on ill people. It is planned to cause as much suffering as possible to the weakest in Society. ATOS are not Doctors that make ill people well, they are paid by the DWP to find all people fit for work. The monies go out of the UK and over to its headquarters in France and North America. They are worse than terrorists. I would rather see people fighting the likes of this and use their education in a positive way instead of these attacks on the Bible everyday and night. The people preaching this are known as the Antichrist Brigade. They get taught at school there is no God and come on here raving about it. They go on about Hamurabi and other things I do not understand.
If it took god 7 days to make earth, how long did it take him to make the universe with hundreds of billions of planets and solar systems.
SOSASOSAist Some say, he's still out there creating a new solar system every seven days to this day...
It took god no time to make anything...Imaginary characters can't make anything, and god is imaginary.
Let’s be logical. If it’s all about us. What’s the point of the ever evolving endless universe? Stars and planets have never stopped forming. And worn out stars die all the time.
@@rogertheshrubber2551 That WOULD explain why he hasn't revealed himself to us for so long...
Disclaimer (since this is the internet):
I am an atheist and this was a joke.
@@leyrua I got it and I'm going to sarcastically use it in the future.
in my astronomy class one of the answers to "what is an eclipse" was "when the sun passes between the earth and the moon". we knew where a person was on the test by the laughs.
There are times when listening to Aron that I'm not sure if I should weep for America or celebrate it - the former for the depths of ignorance which some of its population embrace, or celebrate the fact that the opposition to such ignorance is so vibrant within the general population and so brazenly spoken in public.
I would love to see updated videos on these kind of topics to see where the issues are currently and as time goes on
Number of atheists keeps increasing at a constant rate.
Well said. The things you describe are all reasons why people who use phrases like "militant atheism" should be regarded with mistrust. If an atheist out there occasionally gets angry, there's a good chance it's because they goddamn well should be.
the christian god. the 1st MRA and the longest troll on record.
Paranor001 Indeed, I have yet to hear about any god that I would want as a neighbor. The gods tend to have the worse traits humanity has. I have never heard about any god that was more ethical and decent as I am.
Desertphile So much so I've thrown the 'atheist' label away for a more precise descriptor my understanding, Ignostic.
Desertphile You haven't heard of many gods then. I'm pretty sure the god of love is more decent than you.
Jack Ragnarok
gaylor ? naw he's too much of a bitch
NeodymiumAecium5 Not from the PR from it's members it seems. Just like today's feminists, the groups are seen as self-entitled jokes.
Clean your house and I may change my mind. Till then, yes it is accurate to say it is, under the current definition.
Haven't even got 5 min in and already terrified for the children
This is one of the best AronRa videos, excellent presentation.
Pretty much everything he's talking about 8 years ago is just became obvious to me only recently. The rise of the Christo Fascists is apparently a long term plan which makes it that more dangerous.
Yes, add AronRa to the list of great minds, like Richard Dawkins, Bertrand Russell, Laurence Krause, Christopher Hitchens, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Carl Sagan, James Randi, Steven Fry....too many more than I can come up with at the moment.
AronRa for President!!
I had a biology teacher in high school that told the class that “scientists” faked dinosaur bones to discredit her gods. Irene Hines is her name. She’s now on the school board.
Gods?
@@LisaAnn777 I don’t differentiate. God, gods, whatever
The norwegian political party that gets it name translated into "The Consevatives" in english are more over on the economical conservative side, they are not connected that much with religous nutcasery. Their conservativism is more based upon economical responsibility.
"You're about as good as it gets" is an amazing way to make people feel good and Bad at the same time
Not sure how anyone can listen to Aron Ra and NOT have their eyes opened. What a great presentation.
This is their position on stem cell research:
"We oppose any legislation that would allow for the creation and/or killing of human
embryos for medical research."
*- 2012 Republican Party Platform*
Love your content. You look like a wizard but talk like a genius. Whaaaaat are you hiding? 😉👾
he definitely got a hippy side
Pretty sure the beauty or AronRa is that he IS NOT hiding anything at all.
The first time I EVER heard of the KKK being a Christian organization was in the pilot episode of Boardwalk Empire. And I am 41.
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. I knew that the KKK was a Christian organisation when I was about 9 or 10 (depending on which year it was that particular teacher told us about them) and I live in New Zealand.
There is nothing like waking up and finding a new AronRa video. These videos are the reason I'm heading to University this September to study Biochemistry.
Don't doubt your doubts, be skeptical of your beliefs!
Louisiana has Dino Dragons in their (pseudo)science textbooks?!
You shouldn't have to feel guilty or responsible for the ignorance or actions of others, because because they share some trait with you.
Because because because because becaaaaaus! Because of the wonderful things he does!
It's now 2018 and nothing has changed except for the worse.
I'm confused now having felt comfortable among peers eating Bubba Gump Shrimp while surrounded by Churches in Kona.
Argh, I'm kicking myself for not being able to see Aron speak in person while he was in this province.
He's a great ambassador for the USA and yes, should be governor. I just got back from the states, and his work has made me feel allot more comfortable visiting there. I hope to see him speak in Texas one day.
Thank you for helping me continue to educate myself Aron!
"We live in an age where the Scott's make fun of us" how true is that? this Country has turned into the laughing stock of the world. this would be funny if it weren't serious.
Aron Ra talking about penis skins, and then shows a bag of pork rines. that was hilarious, I love Aron Ra he's the best.
An Open Letter to My Country:
I love you, and although you are far from perfect, I am proud of all the things you have done right for the world and humanity, perhaps most notably setting the precedent of a stable representative republic as a viable form of government and building several basic human rights into the Constitution.
I am also proud that we have overall matured as a culture, improving our values and mores in ways that increasingly marginalize oppression and enhance equality of rights. The recent Supreme Court decision on gay marriage was an uplifting boon to my faith in the fatherland to fulfill ever more closely the egalitarianism that it so proudly touts to the rest of the world. With every such triumph, the United States becomes ever less hypocritical in its idealism.
I would like that growth to continue and my country to remain the world leader it has grown so accustomed to being, but my confidence in the likelihood of that happening is shaken by the fact that, amidst several steps forward, we seem to be taking one very substantial and perilous step backwards. That is the rise in prominence of religious fundamentalism and its unconstitutional influence on national politics.
Aside from being a slippery slope into the theocracy not at all dissimilar from that which has long plagued the Middle East, it contributes much to the intellectual ineptitude of far too many of our citizens. The United States cannot remain a world leader if it allows its people to become marred in misinformation, mythology, and irrationality.
So I welcome religious conservatives to exercise their personal freedom of worship that is the cornerstone of our successful government, but I also implore them to simultaneously respect the separation of church and state that is no less a part of what made this country great.
The loss of traditional privilege to oppress is not itself a form of oppression. It is equality. The unilateral inculcation of dogma asserted on its own presupposed authority is not education. It is indoctrination. Please learn the difference, so that the United States may continue to lead the world rather than descending into ignorant theocracy.
Your loving but concerned citizen,
Gregory H. Bontrager
Is there a better place to place your letter? It's kind of well hidden underneath all the other comments here.
Right on dude
Earth is at the center of the universe in the same sense that I’m at the center of the surface of the earth
One of your best Aron. Thank you again, and again....
Shocking what is going on with Texas’ and Louisiana’s public education system. Thanks for exposing this to those of us in other states.
I can appreciate the fair warning when a stranger boasts about being a "person of faith" or any type of religious follower.
This has got to be one of your best lectures ever.
That is some of the most disturbing things I have ever heard, 5 minutes in... Wow I love living in Canada so much right now, support for you folks from me!
I can't tell whether to laugh or sigh at Creationism
I end up doing both
Is he's serious? Do your public schools really teach that? I mean in Croatia we too have a religion class as an elective course where they teach us about the bible and Christianity, but they never openly contradicted biology and the rest of our secular education.
It's been 3 years and multiple rewatches but it STILL hirts to watch this.
Some parents homeschool their kids so they don't learn about evolution, other homeschool their kids so they don't learn about creation.
"It's all part of a fiendish plan that makes... NO SENSE AT ALL" 🤣
***** Luckily the conservatives in Belgium, Holland, Germany and the UK currently in power are not nearly as crazy as the republicans. Even the christian parties are fully secular and christian in name only to seduce the older voter.
As an atheist, I actually voted for the christian parties in both Germany and Belgium because they're de facto atheist and are fiscally moderate which is what really matters today in Europe.
ahouyearno just so i know how could you vote both for the German and the Belgium party`s do you have some kind of weird dual thing with both country`s or did you move??
Bob Rijke Yes. You vote for the country you're born in but for European and regional elections you vote where you live. I moved to Germany so I can vote in 2 countries depending on the elections
My wife is dutch and she voted for the fiscal-conservative. If religion or whacko conservatism was an issue in these countries, we would have voted very differently.
interesting did not know that (ps dutch also)
Bob Rijke Then you'll understand. She voted VVD which is not a fundamentalist christian party as Aron fears.
I so wanna move to the UK. I'm so tired of these dumbshits here in the U.S.
I’m shuddering to realize this video came out *SIX* years ago given what’s (still) going on today
I prefer a hurtful truth than a beautiful lie
This is actually all terrifying. I'm legitimately scared of people around me now that I know what my family and friends believe. They are ruining this world and they don't even know it. How would one even try to communicate to them? I have an enormous playlist here on TH-cam of religion debates. Should I send them my playlist link? I could to my parents. But it would be hours of watch time and they clearly wouldn't watch anything. I'm so fucking mad. This infuriates me. This can not go on anymore. Religion has to die. I asked my sister why she was going to church and immediately she got super irritated and shunned me for a while. I care about her. I can't let that happen to my sister. She is smart. She is incredibly smart but she's scared to let her parents down by not going to church. Anybody here have any tips to persuade my family to give up church? They throw money to it blindly just like anyone else. We are poor as fuck. None of this makes sense!!!! HELP!!! It's cool how non believers are growing in numbers but we are still losing. Immensely losing. They are winning and will continue to win. Trump is president. Like I'm terrified to even go outside anymore. I see the world so differently now. I see everyone as immoral evil people. Unintentional immoral people. This sucks. This sucks. This sucks. Fuck this country. I want to get involved somehow. Protesting seems pointless. I want to educate people. But it is so hard.
I can relate. I too am deeply troubled by seeing how much damage religion has done to those that i love. I feel an urge to talk everyone out of it, and know that it's not possible. It freaking hurts and is demoralizing to think that I'll have to just let them live their entire lives deluded by lies and false hopes. I feel like I literally cannot communicate with anyone about this. I too am frequently thinking up of possible ways to convince others, but I know i'll likely never execute such plans. Even if I did, and it worked... The older they are, the harder it will be to cope with the realization. I know I'm still struggling after deconverting just over a year ago.
I feel the exact same way.
Oh god I can never look at pork rinds the same again
That had me thinking that if I ever went to the Southern USA and saw a bag of those, I'd be going "hey, a bag of foreskins - is that somebody's dowry?"
Amazing. This talk feels like the essence of Aron Ra.
A guy I work with was looking at my Space/Hubble photo calendar. I don't remember how it came up, but I answered a question of his by saying something like "the sun is just a star like all the others..." in whatever picture it was. The guy then said to me "our sun isn't a star. It's a sun. If it was a star we'd call it the star". I laughed because I thought he was kidding. He was not kidding. This is the type of person Aron is talking about. It's scary.
It speaks volumes that this has just over 9k likes but a cat staring into the void gets 50k
Makes plans to get out of the US as soon as possible, as I should have done 40 years ago.
THE AMAZING ..RA..AND EZ ...RIGHT ON, AND I HOPE HE'S ARON FOR SOME TIME TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS ! BRAVO ARON !
PUNS INTENTED !
Well, further solidifies my desire to homeschool once I have kids.
My dad was a Christian, but taught me more about math and science than I learned in high school. Hell, he taught me trig when I was 11 and tried to teach me calculus when I was 12. He taught me how to balance a checkbook, how to repair electronics, how to fix cars, how to do carpentry and plumbing, and how to stand up for myself. He gave me the resources to learn biology, chemistry, physics, and astronomy, and he and I even had debates on theoretical fields, like quantum mechanics and faster than light travel, all before I was 15.
The real kicker is that he didn't have a college education and couldn't spell better than a 3rd grader. By some standards, he'd be considered mentally deficient. He was a boilermaker by trade, and worked for US Steel until it shut down and he lost his job.
The most important thing he taught me, though, was respect for my fellow man. As he said, "I don't care if you're black, white, green, or purple, you're a person, and deserve at *least* that much respect." Sounds like a modern mentality to have, but he was born in 1943. By all assumptions, he should've been hateful or, at the very least, distrustful of members of other races. He was only 23 years younger than women's right to vote. He was older than many states, older than our Air Force, and older than the equal rights movement. It would be a fair assumption that he was a bigot, but he chose not to be.
A funny story I have about him is when I came back to live with him after living with an African-American family for 6 months in foster care.
My dad had a very dark complexion, and, after being exposed to members of another race for the first time, I looked at him and asked, "Daddy, are you black?"
He laughed for a good while, and finally said, "No, no. I'm just really tan!"
I didn't know what "tan" meant, but accepted his answer, regardless.
I guess the point I'm getting at is that we should be fully conscious of what we teach our kids. My dad never forced any religious idealology onto me, even though he was strongly Christian, himself. I don't mind people of other religions, and I hope their faith helps them be a better person overall, in the end. I've been to somewhere close to 100 different religious institutions in my life, from Buddhist to Shinto to Christian (Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant). I've made friends with people practicing even obscure religions, like druidism and Odinism. To me, they're still people, first and foremost, and I'm going to continue to treat them as such.
My Dad laid on the couch & slept thru baseball & football games. Ma kept "her house" perfect & bitched all the time. I had to do all that other stuff myself. Us kids had to jump on our bikes, TAKE OFF & make our own fun. LMAO!!!
Didn't discover it until I was 21, & now at 70 I realize the most fun thing was LSD!
Road tripping 200 plus miles with the car stereo cranked!
Wow, I'm glad I wasn't born and raised in America but in an actual secular country.
The civil war WAS fought over states' rights...the states' right to continue slavery for mainly economic reasons.
+munstrumridcully So.....slavery, then?
Yeah, they wanted the states to be able to have their own laws about owning other human beings. That's called slavery.
So the Civil War was about states "right" to have slavery.
So the Civil War was about slavery.
You're right!
LordSpongy I know, that was my point. Saying the civil war was about states rights as if the very right in question wasn't slavery is dishonest in the extreme. Its a cheap and ugly bit of knowing dissembling. I even think a state has a right to secede but no state has the right to enslave. I'm not sure, did you think I was defending the denialists? If so its cuyz I forgot to mRk my comment as sarcastic. I thought the three dots would give it away that I was pointing out the states right thing is bs
munstrumridcully I wasn't entirely sure but I figured I'd poke my head in and try to be clever for its own sake. :P
+munstrumridcully Actually it was way more than that. The butt hurt elite of the south realized that they were going to be beaten by the influx of many people for work in the north, which they had slaves for.
Also, Lincoln was the first president that wasn't of their little elite class.
Plus they had absolutely no manufacturing other than crops.
Also, John Brown didn't help any.
And they had made a deal, (called treason) with England to import booze & slaves without paying tariffs.
Oh I'm sure there were other factors, my only point is that IMO its silly for confederacy apologists to try to pretend slavery was incidental to causing the war, while the real issue was states rights, because the very states right they seceded over was slavery, which I find repugnantly immoral and unconstitutional. I happen to think states do have a right to peacefully secede from a supposedly voluntary federal union, if they achieve a supermajority in the state govt and of the states people, but since slavery deprived millions of their humanity and what should have been citizenship IMO, the north had an ethical duty to fight. Unfortunately I'm also aware that Lincoln would've kept slavery to save the union, showing while he was no fan of slavery, his priorities were not morality and ethics.
"God isn't dead he's just missing in action." Phil Ochs
I enjoy your talks. Looked into homeschool back when, but couldn't find any secular materials at the time. "Bless" you for providing some!
Knowledge, research, confidence and passion make this articulate man a shining light for reason and a force for hope in the awakening of religiously enslaved humanity.
😎
Why do I love this guy so much
Dunno why *you* do, but for me it's because he's a reminder that not every US citizen is a drooling credulous cretin - which, considering the USA has an enormous stockpile of Weapons of Mass Destruction, is something I _really need_ to be reminded of and reassured by fairly frequently.
I'm gay and I find this fucking hilarious. If God existed why did he make me gay? I had no idea the US education system was so utterly fucked. Unbelievable.
It gets even more rediculous with so many evangelical Christians in the US claiming they are trying to "conserve western society" when Christianity comes from the middle east, and pre Christian western societies like he Greeks and Romans(before Christianity) were very tolerant of homosexuality.
Thanks Aron, now I have a different look on pork rinds. 🙎🏼♂️