Unholy Trinity Down Under: "Biblical Absurdity"
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- In March of 2015, the Atheist Foundation of Australia hosted atheist activists Matt Dillahunty, Aron Ra and Seth Andrews (under the tongue-in-cheek tour title, "The Unholy Trinity Down Under").
The speakers' presentations from Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne are posted on AFA's tour website: www.unholytrinitydownunder.com
Special thanks to the AFA: atheistfoundation.org.au
"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst; every other species of tyranny is limited to the world we live in; but this attempts to stride beyond the grave, and seeks to pursue us into eternity."
- Thomas Paine
Deep.
+Jon House That is exactly what will happen to atheists .
Patrick Parker Wait, what will happen to atheists?
Eternal damnation
Patrick Parker suuuuuure.
I believed in the bible for over 50 years until I really studied it... I no longer believe in it.. and I'm no longer a Christian...
Elizabeth Wilcol Good for you, it's like any bad habit, hard to break, but in the end you'll feel a lot better.
+david howard Well, after you get over the bad feelings...
+david howard hard is an understatement lol it takes a very long time to get that deep shit out
+Elizabeth Wilcol, I'm sorry that you spent so much time with the good book and not the Author. ASK GOD and He will surely answer you! Did you dedicate a time everyday to show GOD your faithfulness? Knowing about GOD and seeking His face are two different things! I pray that you find Him. This is the season for asking and receiving miracles!
+Elizabeth Wilcol This doesn't really make any sense - you are saying that you believed in the bible and called yourself a Christian WITHOUT really studying the bible? For 50 years??? I don't really understand how on earth you could have any vague interest/ affiliation with a belief of any remote seriousness, but yet virtually ignore the text upon which it's built upon! I find this pretty bonkers to be honest...
And God so loved the world that He just forgave everybody and installed in them an understanding of ethics, justice love and ecology so that all the problems of the world went away! Yeah right!
He so loved the world that he created a place of torture for all those who don't worship his son, Jeebus. Nothing says love more than eternal torture.
@Vincent Roche, makes much more sense when you explain it that way. I always imagined Jesus being more like the stalker that's infatuated with a girl, but when she turns him down, he kidnaps and tortures her. The abusive husband works though.
@@RoastedLocust A very vain and stupid god too.
@@byteme9718, yeah, most Christians think "God" created us just for us to worship him. And when they go to heaven, they'll spend the eternity singing hymns worshiping him. Vain and needy. And they think singing hymns is paradise - if you've ever been to a sunday church service during the "morning worship", you'd know that it's the very opposite of paradise.
If anything, we're part of a simulator like SimCity, but more like SimUniverse except with even less input from the player. If such a gamer exists, he/she's probably more impressed when the little sims can land on the moon than when they sing ancient, boring songs.
@@jimmythompson3248 , crazy lunatics don't choose to be crazy lunatics. They often have delusions that pop into their heads, and they believe them without rationalizing them first. If you think they deserve to go to hell for something that's out of their control, maybe you're the crazy lunatic with delusions and the inability to apply reason to them.
And if Hell does exist, it'll probably be full of people like you that take pleasure in knowing other people will go there - why are so many Christians the least empathetic people in the world? It's like they've taken the golden rule and twisted it to say, "Do unto others, because fuck 'em."
To answer Seth's point. Yes I was converted by street preachers from THeist to atheist when I was about 11. I recognised that they were talking nonsense and also lying even at that age. I never reacted well to threats. There was a guy who walked the streets of Walton on the Naze in Essex with a sandwich board which read "The end of the world is nye". That was 60 years ago and yet we are still here and he isn't.
Read 2 peter 3 , it describes people like you .
@@patrickparker8417 "And 137 Psalms 9 describes people like you, nyah nya-nya nyah!"
...seriously, can we elevate the discourse above fourth-grade recess?
@@matteoscarabelli854 Who pulled your string .
@@SuperPatrick777 Same who pulled yours, I guess.
This man is the best at making sense
Ra is my go to now we no longer have Hitch.
Love the prophecies... "there will be wars and rumors of wars..." .. Yeah like that never happens.
I know 🤪
Prediction of things that always happens and will continue
Even for someone who's been an atheist for 38 years, this was educational. I'd like to see one of the Unholy Trinity discuss how Jesus's birth, life, and sacrifice to absolve us all of the original sin was all for naught, since we're all still being punished for it 2,000 years later.
1955RodHot Check out Matt Dillahunty's first and second speech on his channel, you won't be disappointed.
1955RodHot Also they were being punished 2000 years prior. The scene is set in Genesis with Abraham that if he obeys Jehovah he shall be rewarded, but if he doesn't he shall be punished. A very simple setup. After Christ, the situation is described to be exactly the same: Choose Jesus and be saved, or choose anything else and suffer.Notice that in both the Old and New testaments, reward or punishment hinges on obedience to God or Jesus, not necessarily doing what is morally right. So, just as you say, the human sacrifice of Jesus changes nothing.
God carrying out the Jesus sacrifice was equivalent to throwing somebody into a body of water and then offering them a life preserver. As Matt Dillahunty has said, God created imperfect human beings (throws into body of water) then offers Jesus as a sacrifice (life preserver) to save them from his own wrath (chucking them into the body of water in the first place), and other screw ups.
On the point of Hell, I have heard Christians try to rationalize this with usually an analogy like this:
*"Suppose that this man the judge had to sent had done a crime so great it called for death. He waiting on death row and his lawyer come in with full excitement with the warden. The governor has granted you a full pardon, you're free to go. The man refuses to take the pardon, they ask him to change his mind over and over but he will still not accept the pardon. Since the man refuses the pardon, they continue with the sentence and execute him. It was his choice; and he chose to die. God has offered you a way out of your sentence paid by Jesus. The choice is yours, will you accept the pardon?*"
The man refusing the pardon was his choice, but my disbelief in a god is *not* a choice, so I am not "choosing" to reject anything, nor am I sending myself to Hell or anywhere of that matter, I don't believe in said place. I'm sure this can be expanded on, but that is my main point and I'm very tired as for right now.
1955RodHot Jesus didn't sacrifice himself, he sacrificed his weekend.
Bert Simmons Somehow I missed them, thanks for the tip.
I was a christian for 53 years until I got serious about it and started reading the bible. After four(weekly) meetings I became an atheist.
Sounds like you were only a nominal Christian
Aaron Myers Oh, of course I wasn’t christian enough to not get persuaded by the truth. God does not exist. Do your research, or keep your head in the sand. Most christians I know have never read the bible. They only hare what is preached to them by their ministers.
Bubber Cakes I have no idea what you’re talking about. What research is there that led you toward atheism? If the “Christianity is mythology” argument is true, it would make front page headlines across the globe. Christianity is not mythology
Aaron Myers Of course it is. There is no one who can prove that christianity or any religion has any truth whatsoever. Jesus may have existed but his name was not really jesus and he did not have any supernatural powers. I suspect that you know this already, you just do not want to admit it. Most of the bible has been proven wrong. Noah never existed. The flood never happened. There was no Abraham. I guess the best way I can describe it is to learn about the lack of evidence about god.
Bubber Cakes sorry man, you’re wrong. There is tremendous evidence for the resurrection of Christ, the son of God.
I love that guy near the end "Im from Brisbane. Just wanna say sorry. SORRY." Lol. Perfect timing.
Good lecture, I'd never heard that breathing in and out sound "Yah,.. weh" before, it makes perfect sense.
It sounds more "accurate" in Hebrew, if I remember correctly.
LMAO! "Say Mo, what kind of bush was that? Describe the leaves for me" Epic! I got a good chuckle out of that. Your mix of comedy, knowledge, logic and speaking presence is stellar Aron.
Loved especially the first part about making it clear the gods used to be people, and fire and winds being perceived as magical. That's something found amongst many many religions all over the globe.
No that's stupid if they were magical why did they give it up ? I thought gods weren't suppose to die? Where are they or is it that they never existed?
@@mariomiceli9663 Judge me how you want . I have a life am well pleased an fine Retired at 52, am 63 and doing fine. Debt free Own My own Electrical company. when I see a stupid comment I don't care how old it is IF I have something to say I will say it. If you don't like it then you shouldn't post it. Seems you may be trolling me but I don't need advice from an internet rookie. I have been on here since windows 3.0 hit the web HTML programming with a 3600 MHz modem For you to tell me how long I can post to web sites I disagree with and the video. If you don't like it tough. like it or leave because it's the best thing coming.
@@void4256 Geez. youve had internet access for nearly 30 years and yet in all that time couldnt absorb the abundance of knowledge that utterly dismantles and disproves abrahamic religions? Not surprising, the older people are, the harder it is for them to let go of things theyve been invested in for their entire life. Tis a pity though that you "watch" all these videos that clearly show your religion for what it is and still cant acknowledge the truth.
@@void4256 Aw, deleted the comment? "How could I know"...
When it comes to abrahamic religions the evidence speaks for itself. I assume youve heard it all.
All thats left at this point for the case of god is that god is what caused the big bang. This is possible and im not going to assume I know but that in no way makes the case for abrahamic religions which were clearly the work of primitive humans entirely. And honestly, they arent even great religions, they were barbaric, brutal and vile. You are a vastly better person than the biblical god you worship.
@@mariomiceli9663 At least your being honest! we all must start somewhere.
I remember when I thought creationism was a thing from a long, long time ago. I slept better those days
***** Jep, I know that feeling. Never realised the US was this bad until I started reading YT-comments.
Els Verwilgen If one were to go only by yt comments the best thing for the US would be to kill it with fire and start over😁 But luckily there's loads of sane, nice and awesome people over there as well, so I guess we can only hope they prevail.
@@annnee6818 yep, 😂😂😂 social media is where everybody come to show their ass because they know they can get away with it, lol.
This is one of Aron-Ra's best and funniest lectures.
I jus became a big fan of this guy. Some other TH-cam atheist jus like bitching about and feeling smarter then religious people. This guy is the real deal tho because I actually learned something by listening to him. Won me over.
why?
So true
I started questioning things in the Bible myself, but could get no answers, I watched a video from AronRa and loved it, now I'm pretty much binge watching them and I'm getting my questions answered! Thank you AronRa! I'm on my way to no longer being Christian!
Just to be precise, intelligence is not a function of religion one way or the other. I certainly do not think I am smarter than even most religious people. But that doesn't make them right, or I suppose me either. That's why I put my "faith" in smart people like Aron who actually study their material, accept challenges, and do revisions as necessary. Odd concept I know.
@@void4256 Hi. Considering the rest of your post I think you meant "overrated jokes" there. You are absolutely correct in that he does not touch on issues of physics because it's not his specialty and would make him a laughing stock. And he knows that. That's why he collaborated with another youtuber who knows more on Big Bang cosmology. So perhaps "Correcting the Church of Unlimited Errors 1/3" could be of help there? It's been a while since I watched that video so I don't recall what they spoke of exactly but Big Bang Theory definitely got covered to some extent.
Personally I agree to the points and mission of Amon Ra etc, trying to educate people on science and evolution, though what I disagree with is the dismissive tone they use for religion, as it can come off as needlessly aggressive and runs the risk of making a rational discussion into a shouting match. It's not an ideological war and the opposition isn't evil, it's two sides with vastly different worldviews trying to get their message out. I imagine it must get really infuriating sometimes for believers to look past the tone at the content provided and it'd likely color your perception when you were to later look up the theories from more neutral-sounding sources. I wish you all the best nonetheless and hope you find your answers.
Fun fact!
The way the Pharisees are described is *striking* similar to how creationists today behave! :D
lol
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@@davidhatcher7016 ,
Which "belief" is more rational and logical???
Two people (one Christian the other Atheist) are walking through an apple orchard coming upon 377 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart on the ground.
The atheist, given their belief in spontaneous "accidents", concludes "nice accident" and continues walking. Obviously, not thinking anything more about it - as that is how he/she is brainwashed by their "secular" public education to believe.
On the other hand, the Christian sees the exact same 377 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, and concludes "WHO IN THE WORLD DID THAT?"
Which has a more rational and logical conclusion???
Basic logic dictates behind "order" there has to be an "orderer". Behind every "building" you see is a "builder" you cannot see.
Behind something that is "moving" there is a "mover" - that "caused it" to move.
Behind an intelligent "design" is a intelligent "designer".
Now, let’s raise the spontaneous "accident" odds to absolute absurdity. For me to write this post I have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart and for you to read this post right now you have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, so over 6 Billion DNA "ordered" and working !!!
Now, is that just a random "chance" and spontaneous "accident" to have 6 Billion DNA in a "row" to carry on this conversation???
www.genome.gov/25520880/deoxyribonucleic-acid-dna-fact-sheet/
evolutionnews.org/2018/04/yes-intelligent-design-is-detectable-by-science/
Even famous atheist Richard Dawkins has admitted DNA can "prove" intelligent design
th-cam.com/video/prFZTMIKOi4/w-d-xo.html
www.allaboutscience.org/intelligent-design.htm
Sorry, Evolution is a lie. The false theory should be DEAD/EXTINCT by "real" scientists:
th-cam.com/video/4wCxkBnm3ow/w-d-xo.html
Evolution is spread from a Masonic lie:
th-cam.com/video/66c03O4APJ4/w-d-xo.html
What are the "odds" of even one protein forming "accidentally" completely forgetting about even more complex "LIFE"???
th-cam.com/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/yBEwgdCHUWo/w-d-xo.html
Now is athiestic evolution or spontaneous "accidents" really a logical and rational conclusion???
Please get to KNOW the supreme "orderer" of this universe, and what He expects out of your life to find "TRUE LIFE".
Now, I recommend you watch former atheist Lee Strobel's "Case for the Creator".
th-cam.com/video/ajqH4y8G0MI/w-d-xo.html
Then listen or read Josh McDowell's "Evidence Demands a Verdict".
th-cam.com/video/HRemWMIy2IY/w-d-xo.html
Please follow the "evidence", facts, real science and "TRUTH" right into the ONE and ONLY established Church of Jesus Christ being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH.
May GOD open your eyes and heart guiding you to TRUTH HIMSELF Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
www.magiscenter.com,
@@onetruefaith2091 nice strawman of atheists.
Order does not necessitate an orderer.
Lee strobel has been exposed as a con man and liar so you've now discredited yourself by inducing him.
@@onetruefaith2091
Hmmm...as soon as I saw you shilling for the Unholy Catholic church, I could just ignore everything you said...
@@jamesgarcia7034 , that should convince you there is a GOD. Why??? With sometimes corruption and sinners giving the Catholic Church a bad name how in the world could it survive 2,000 and ongoing years otherwise???
What "proves" GOD??? GOD keeping His covenant promises.
Please explain away a GOD promise that was originally made (2 Samuel 7:12-16, 931-722 BC) at least 722 years B.C., then that same promise expanded upon (Psalms 89:27-37, 1410-450 BC, and Jeremiah 33:14-22, 586-570 BC) at least 450 years BEFORE Jesus Christ was even born, which He fulfilled 450 years later in Matthew 16:18 resulting in 2,000 and ongoing years of "proof":
www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
catholicexchange.com/church-new-israel
Would this be just another Biblical "accident" to an atheist or something "divine" proving the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH is the "ONE TRUE FAITH"???
It is a breath of fresh "Spiritus" to hear you spreading knowledge of language. So much of religious misunderstanding and misapplication is due to the lack of etymological education.
Thank you thank you thank you, for your choice of presentation matter. Many atheists stop and base their disbelief on contradictions and impossibilities mentioned in the bible or other holy books. Never knowing the deeper aspects of it that led to the confusion. This would be language and a few other details.
Combine this with your interview with Acharia (from suns of god), and for many people, it would be the piece of the puzzle that kept it from completion.
So, Damn, what a good presentation !!
I hope they do a holy trinity tour to europe one day. I'd really appreciate seeing them live.
Mira Bellenbaum Didn't Aron just announce they were?
Zachary Amaranth I think it is only Aron Ra that comes to europe. He didn't say anything about Seth and Matt. But since he comes to Utrecht maybe I'll go and see him.
Oh. My bad.
Mira Bellenbaum +Zachary Amaranth Both Matt and Aron will be at QED this year (so I'm told) and Aron will be in Dublin tomorrow night (free talk) hosted by Atheist Ireland
Mira Bellenbaum Hi. I can tell you that Aron will talk to those interested, in Plymouth, UK at the Barbican Theatre on 28 April. 2015, at 8pm. Come along!
Yes yes yes - No one has the right to bring children up, nor force anyone, to believe in fantasies as facts. That is abuse. Plain. Simple. Great vid
What about when children are taught there are hundreds of different genders with humans when science says there are 2 male and female?
@@soniq351 Oh do bore off, weirdo.
@@MarkAnthony-wo9fr Atheism in itself is a form of doctrination, the evidence is in front of you. Look at the US or other western countries from the 50s when atheism was becoming more influential and Christian values on the decline-
.people sleeping around more no values to a relationship.
.kids growing up with no fathers
.family structure turned upside down
.kids growing up with multiple gender identity's
.the baby in the wombe is not being acknowledged as human
.the dark side of rap, heavy metal etc..degrading women and fellow humans, glorifying self pride, money etc...
These points are taught by your media as normal and easily coexist with an atheist society and not a practising Christian society.
I haven't seen any value or real cobtributio from atheism at all-
.Never heard of a atheist charity group
.Never heard of a atheist org donate and give time to help elderly, disadvantaged... I mean they exist but they are extremely small.
These orgs that have Christian origins
Red Cross, Homeless centres, drug and alcoholic rehab organisations etc.... if they were taken away you would see how much Christianity helps
Haven't heard of any atheist org that is against abortion or euthanasia where as Christian believe ALL life is important regardless of age or gender.
This whole tour has been awesome. Aron, you're such an awesome speaker. Thanks for uploading. Ra-men
Personal recollection: As a kid, living in Stockton NSW(Australia), I'd walk down the street to the local shopping strip(a section of Mitchell Street running from King Street down to Queen Street, and the intersection of Mitchell and Crown streets being about half-way along). To get there, I'd pass by the Catholic primary school, church and preacher's residence that took up a sizeable chunk of real estate bordered by King, Dunbar and Crown Streets. The preacher's residence was on the corner of King and Dunbar Streets and, in the 1960s and up to (guessing) the mid-to-late 1970s had this high fence around it, which had long-since been removed. I used to see that fence and think(when in my teens) that it was symbolic of the catholic church shutting out the real world. Knowing what we now know of paedophile priests, predominantly in the catholic church, that symbolism is more profound.
Omg the weed reference 😂😂 thank you so much Aron!! "Can you describe the leaves for me"
Which "belief" is more rational and logical???
Two people (one Christian the other Atheist) are walking through an apple orchard coming upon 377 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart on the ground.
The atheist, given their belief in spontaneous "accidents", concludes "nice accident" and continues walking. Obviously, not thinking anything more about it - as that is how he/she is brainwashed by their "secular" public education to believe.
On the other hand, the Christian sees the exact same 377 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, and concludes "WHO IN THE WORLD DID THAT?"
Which has a more rational and logical conclusion???
Basic logic dictates behind "order" there has to be an "orderer". Behind every "building" you see is a "builder" you cannot see.
Behind something that is "moving" there is a "mover" - that "caused it" to move.
Behind an intelligent "design" is a intelligent "designer".
Now, let’s raise the spontaneous "accident" odds to absolute absurdity. For me to write this post I have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart and for you to read this post right now you have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, so over 6 Billion DNA "ordered" and working !!!
Now, is that just a random "chance" and spontaneous "accident" to have 6 Billion DNA in a "row" to carry on this conversation???
www.genome.gov/25520880/deoxyribonucleic-acid-dna-fact-sheet/
evolutionnews.org/2018/04/yes-intelligent-design-is-detectable-by-science/
Even famous atheist Richard Dawkins has admitted DNA can "prove" intelligent design
th-cam.com/video/prFZTMIKOi4/w-d-xo.html
www.allaboutscience.org/intelligent-design.htm
Sorry, Evolution is a lie. The false theory should be DEAD/EXTINCT by "real" scientists:
th-cam.com/video/4wCxkBnm3ow/w-d-xo.html
Evolution is spread from a Masonic lie:
th-cam.com/video/66c03O4APJ4/w-d-xo.html
What are the "odds" of even one protein forming "accidentally" completely forgetting about even more complex "LIFE"???
th-cam.com/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/yBEwgdCHUWo/w-d-xo.html
Now is athiestic evolution or spontaneous "accidents" really a logical and rational conclusion???
Please get to KNOW the supreme "orderer" of this universe, and what He expects out of your life to find "TRUE LIFE".
Now, I recommend you watch former atheist Lee Strobel's "Case for the Creator".
th-cam.com/video/ajqH4y8G0MI/w-d-xo.html
Then listen or read Josh McDowell's "Evidence Demands a Verdict".
th-cam.com/video/HRemWMIy2IY/w-d-xo.html
Please follow the "evidence", facts, real science and "TRUTH" right into the ONE and ONLY established Church of Jesus Christ being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH.
May GOD open your eyes and heart guiding you to TRUTH HIMSELF Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
www.magiscenter.com,
@@onetruefaith2091 Listen, if you get pubic lice, that's one of god's creatures- so please don't kill them- just scratch your ball-bag until it turns into the consistency of a peanut bag, eventually ripping open and dropping your balls onto the floor. Incidentally, pubic lice come from gorillas- what more proof do you need of our connection to the ape lineage?
@@onetruefaith2091 Wow, you have more quotation marks and capital letters in your post than logic, as you imply. First of all, that situation you propose with the apples is complete bull. You know what an atheist (or anyone with sense) would say upon seeing a few hundred apples laid out in a mini fruit version of the Nazca lines? "What a stupid waste of good food. I think I'll go find the idiot responsible for this and smack them upside the head." Your response however? As with anything remotely unknown (that you don't see as a threat, at least), it's automatically a miracle, "God works in mysterious ways" or what have you. You might as well say that a wizard did it. Miracle = socially acceptable magic.
Believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy too if you want, but why should the entire world enslave themselves for all "eternity?"
I don!t know what theist have been smoking but I don!t want any of it...
@@onetruefaith2091 You are one freaked out perversion of reality and truth. I stay miles away from your deceptive and diseased kind.
Thank you for visiting Sydney, Aron, and thank you for the hug 🤗
Incledible that millions of people still believe the myth and think their truth is the only one. Keep up your great work Aron, Seth, Matt, Tracie, Richard
Smokin' video, loved every minute keep up the good work Aron. Being an athiest in Mormon land is discouraging sometimes. This week I was harassed 3 times by bible nuts, I leave them alone why won't they leave me alone? WTF.
When approached I reply, "Whatever you're trying to sell, don't try to sell it to me because I'm not buying!" in an emphatic and stern tone that clearly conveys my message, i.e., "fuck off!" It almost always does the trick because generally they're not expecting that sort of reaction so they scurry off to look for an easy victim.
Well Mormonism is built on freemasons, the occult.
Because they are sadists..
1.) they are Commanded in their Book to go out and spread the Word of God/ Jesus.
2.) They are "nuts."
3.) I met political activist out trying to get people to vote a certain way.
I always ask them what type of Church they go to a few times a week,
I get,
a.) I / they keep their religion and politics separate .
b.) they friendly tell me about their church in a very sociable way.
c.) they tell me in a "look down their nose at you" cold mock polite manner of their church.
d.) They say they do not Believe in a God. And I tell them that they carry on as they are religious bible thumpers do. Some walk away upset and cause crap later. Others say they did not realize they themselves were being played and will rejust their own actions.
I know as a Seventh day Adventist we were told we had to win souls because we couldn't go to heaven alone and we had to warn people about the imminent end of the world. But I think jehovah witnesses and mormons got us beat. I don't think Adventist knock on doors anymore.
There ain't no Jesus gonna come from the Sky, and now that I found out, I know I can cry. John Lennon.
Hmmm...which song is that?
U wrong!
@@meland7715 u telling people there wrong is so fucking ignorant bro
@Link of Hyrule this isn’t a spelling bee****
I used to see Ray Comfort downtown at the pier in Huntington Beach all the time. He's always down there proselytizing!
"Sort of, depending on how you look at it" is the best an all-powerful being can do.
welp. this vid finally answered a question ive been having: Aron Ra and Matt D. do know of each other, and have met. fck yes there is hope for humanity after all. cheers from Austin friends
Sorry I missed this when you were out here. I had absolutely no idea this was on. Some consolation that I can listen to it now I guess. Thanks Aron, Matt and Seth.
"The headlines in this part of the world never change, do they? You have three religions of peace, all worshiping the same God of love and forgiveness, and yet they've been at war, continuously, each since their inception."
+Peter Smythe Easy.. Cuz those people do not practice what they preach. Love your neighbors and your enemies... Treat others as you want to be treated...
Peter Smythe Who are Christians at war with?
Thank you so much, Aron. You helped make my de-conversion experience, a pleasurable and exciting time. Thank you so much!
Mine too.
I live in KY. Y'all in Australia can have Ken Ham back! That boat north of where I am has water damage! WTF.
So the thing that's supposed to survive a flood has water damage 😂
Don't you dare try and send the arsehole back here!
🤣
That was a brilliant talk. Fascinating.
Thank you!
Hope you come to India and share your message, Aron Ra!
Aadarsh Chunkath I would go to India. The first world atheist convention was in India, and that was just before I started attending such things.
Heywood Juhblowme First you call him a failed comedian and now your asking him to come to your area?
Aadarsh Chunkath no no hindhu's are closed minded people...every inventions has to come from the west or chinese ...what is your contributions to the world?...we should not allow these people to visit your cowdung country
Aadarsh Chunkath No person appearing on the world's stage has more positively impacted humanity or elevated the intrinsic value of each individual more than the advent of the Lord Jesus Christ, son of the living God.
Anyone denigrating a higher power or divine invocations of the Holy Bible have proven themselves fool of fools speaking against divinity is unacceptable conduct in the sight of the Lord, for which judgements will be rendered.
As this video comes from atheistic sources it opinions are against a higher power haven't a scintilla of credibility in the real world regarding anything associated with spiritual matters.
God will not be mocked with impunity for whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap. Therefore if a man has sown to the wind mischief against God there soul will be cast into Hell and that without remedy unless there's genuine repentance before the Almighty before their deaths. Amen & Amen
Traditional Values Your writing style is horrible....
This was amazing, AronRa! Thank you for your work. I really appreciate it. :D
"Why can't I believe what I want to believe?"
Because if you believe something you know is not true, you are the worst sort liar, you lie to yourself. If you can't be honest with yourself, you can not be honest with anyone.
And 300 million christians raised their hands!
This comment was eerily prescient when you consider what's happening now in the USA and other regions of the world regarding corrupt and powerful men claiming they've won elections that they haven't
@@andrewsnow1933 No, not really. This is something people have always done.
Some people simply refuse to face reality. "No Doctor, I don't have cancer. I'm perfectly healthy."
I can't find the video, but it was kind of graphic anyway. This guy, who was obviously quite sick, and could barely speak was claiming to be cancer free died mid-sentence on live TV in an interview. Cause of death: Advanced metastatic cancer. He didn't like the idea that he had cancer so he just ignored all the evidence. The weakness, the pain, the weight loss, the doctors, everything. Probably even ignored his own death, assuming that's even possible.
Why would hard core Republicans ignore the fact that Trump lost the election if they are given the slightest opportunity? Why not ignore the pandemic? Or climate change? Or the non-existence of God?
What if I believe what I believe is true?
@@the_polish_prince8966 That doesn't even make sense.
Do you chose to believe what is true? Do you choose to believe what is true based on your own fears?
Suppose you live in that farm house in Iceland. You can choose to believe that the lava will never touch it because you love that house and it's been in your family for 150 years.
Will your desire to keep the house have any effect on the lava at all?
"spirit" literally comes the Latin for "breath", etimologically. So it makes sense.
Always a pleasure to listen to AronRa speak. Clear, concise and intelligent. Am doing my bit to explain and defend atheism.
I have Christian friends who believe in evolution and hanging out with atheists like me and people of other religious, in fact we are good friends and they never try to convert me, why can't other Christians be like them?
I can happely assure you that most religious people are like you describe. It's only the fringe branches of religion (like 10-15% or so) that are the problem. The problem is that they are very vocal about it.
And the vocal minority are also the ones pushing the ten commandments in public places, intelligent design in science class, etc....
Also, I have a neighbor who is a retired baptist minister. Let's just say we have had a few discussions and he is among the vocal minority, so the discussions didn't go very well.
You make a good point. However, these moderates are letting the fringe speak for them by their silence. It is like the Christian saying he does not agree with gay bashers but will not intervene to stop them. Is it because while he himself would not do that he still believes that gays are bringing it on themselves? I still do not trust Christians.
Thank you, you have made my wife's journey to atheism much easier.
Shit, if I'd known you guys were here in Australia, I'd have gone to see you! Hope you return sometime soon :)
BludgaBoy they didn't come to my town of Adelaide " the city of churches" - pity :( maybe next time :)
***** I wasn't able to see them either, on account of not living near any place they visited. Closest one was Brisbane, which is still over 400km north of me.
BludgaBoy same. Since the ongoing Free Thought Blogs trainwreck I tend to steer a wide berth of various atheist organisations though. Which is why I had only been an atheist for about a month when an atheist friend told me about them. I was keen to sign up and check it out but I dallied and I'm glad I did because about a month later news from the intellectual gulag that is FTB reached my ears. I also abandoned all social media long ago because it was constantly in my face pushing me to provide more personal data, play more games, buy more shit. So, yeah I'm how you say: Out of the loop. But protip: don't drink the koolaid!
posted 15 minutes ago. Damn Aron, you get up much earlier than I would have thought you might. Being a carpenter, this is actually late for me to be getting up. I look forward to watching this after I get home from work.
The energy of that intro was amazing
Facts always get in the way of Theism. Darn those crazy facts. To be a Theist, one must suspend all logic, sense, reason and facts.
saxmanchiro That in itself is a good reason to be an atheist.
Cause to be a theist you have to care more about faith than about truth...
What saith the scripture?
Straw woman
Sounds like a flashback from the seventies. You really aint' 'Up on thangs". Fact is evolution was proven wrong over and over. No scientist ever proved one fact of evolution. It's all subjective. Errors and fake info, proven a hoax constantly. Try a different station than msnbc/cornholers. by the way that's not beanutbutter.
Don't know where you get your information from, but you are completely wrong. There is plenty of evidence for evolution. In fact, it was seen to happen in just one day recently.
Evolution happens over centuries, normally. A study in the Caribbean, however, has shown that it can also occur overnight thanks to a hurricane that blew away lizards with long back legs.
The scientists involved called it “hurricane-induced natural selection”. A team of ecologists was lucky enough to take measurements of tropical anole lizards before a hurricane hit the Turks and Caicos Islands last August.
After the storm, they returned to find that the course of the lizards’ evolution had been changed drastically. A paper in the journal Nature reported that the only anole lizards left had larger toe pads and smaller hind legs.
God said honor mom and dad
Jesus said: You cant follow me, if you love your mom, dad, brother.......
One of the better presentations, of its type, ever. Well worth the watch.
God is real and hell!
"Biblical absurdity"? You're being redundant.
ft55555 Not redundant. We need the term "biblical absurdity" to distinguish from "biblical atrocity". Probably others too. But that covers the comic and the tragic.
I think the really important question here has not been addressed! What shampoo and conditioner is AronRa using?
fifi msp head & shoulders above the rest!!
fifi msp I can't remember where, but on some video, I think he admits to using a shampoo designed for horses. AronRa, if I've misremembered this, my apologies!
Troubleshooter125 Oh, he's one of those people. LOL. That's funny. So I am not the only person whose inquired into this.
+fifi msp Probably it's a brand called "Mane and Tail". I've known quite a few humans that use it. And I can't believe I'm actually commenting on a thread about HAIR CARE!!!
Believe it baby!
The contradiction of one of the ten commandments telling people not to kill, and a few pages later people being killed, was the first one I ever noticed. That is what sparked my awakening...
Lianne Dekker When you go through the bible and collate all the deaths attributed to god, you'll find that he/she/it has killed in the region of 25,000,000 people and the devil killed 10 plus.
The reason the devil killed Job's children was because of a bet he had with god that Job would curse god to his face if he had to suffer.
God took the bet and allowed the devil to decimate the man.
What a truly shit god that would even contemplate having a bet of any kind, with the devil.
So the deaths of Job's family members lays squarely on the head of god, along with the 25 million others he murdered.
Kenneth, the funny thing about Job's story was that Job was supposed to be even happier after God blessed him with more wealth and a new family. I wonder does he miss his "divinely slaughtered" family members. Oh my, divine justice and morality.
Daniel Zhang Yes. Hardly a story of good morality for both god and Job.
Lianne Dekker Mine was what was the name of Cain's wife? Where did she come from? All these begettings, but there was only Adam, Eve & Cain, & he'd just murdered his brother, god didn't strike him dead, , just gave him the mark, so men would know him, which men? Then go forth & multiply, who with, like I said, what was her name then?
God in the bible kills millions, the devil kills no more than hundred. The commandment should be writes " thou shouldn't kill unless you are me"
Fantastic speech . I bet not many christians know the bible and history more than aronra.
How about NONE.
Agreed, we all need to see these reminders to keep a really clear head from conspiracy theorists. Thank you Aron, found you recently as many more inevitably will. Really appreciate the details you bring to us and the time it must take to put all of this together. You stand apart from so many others.
When it comes right down to it, Apologetics = "Spin".
AronRa works the Aussie hat. All he needs now is a long duster coat. But, it was probably hot down there.
truly excellent dialogue that challenges the religious dogma that spans the three religions based off of it, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam with some very surprising and cogent arguments.
21' Aron reminds me of Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction, reciting Ezekiel before shooting at some one "and you'll know I am thy lord bang bang bang: lol
I wish I had been able to see it in person!
Do you guys plan to take your show on the road here in the states? I'm trapped in Kansas.. uh I mean I live in Kansas and I'd love to see you guys live.
Monty Python Life of Brian I think covered all of this very beautifully
So so sorry I missed you guys when you were here, keep up the good work
LOL @Ezekiel literally fucking up his own prophecy.
That's a pretty sweet theme song in the intro.
Great work AronRa..... Wish I could have been there in person. The Unholy Trinity needs to tour the U.S...... Can't wait to meet you in person and shake your hand for the great work you do.
Great video! Now I get to watch the other 2!! Keep up the great work you do sir!!
Information ---- My one true love!
He does an epic God voice XD
Even God is jealous of Arons voice if he existed that is lol
How do you know, you ever heard God talk
@@ImGoingSupersonic no, I haven't. But the voice Aaron ra does is what I imagine the fictional bible god would sound like.
@@connorirons4542 so, ur name isn't Rob, its now, Connor?
I so hope I can see a presentation by these guys when they get back here again..
I got a good chuckle at the end with Ken Hamm "live in Kentucky now," and in the distant background of the audience, you hear one Aussie yell out, "good!" Then when he said he came from Brisbane originally, several audience member pre-apologized before Aron-Ra could scold them for sending that blighter this way.
Most excellent presentation, AronRa! You really know your stuff. Rock on!
My favourite speech of the night - nice to see Brisbane getting a look in! Hope you had a good time here.
yess!! been waiting for this. thank you Aron
He teaches about the bible better than a preacher. I enjoy watching a good speaker.
Jon, I am an American, born and raised a Catholic, but fortunately I saw the freeing light of rationality and atheism while still quite young. I've lived and taught here in Thailand now for almost 20 years. Imagine my feelings at this: There are Mormon missionaries here! Imagine the nerve of coming to Thailand, an overwhelmingly Buddhist country, whose religion/philosophy has served them well for hundreds of generations, and telling those good-hearted people that their religion is not the 'right one'. Sheer, unimaginable gall! I see their smiling, well-groomed young men on their bicycles, riding around and trying to convert others to their foreign, bigoted, totally-made-up religion, with an unbelievably ludicrous faith system, living as spirits before gaining a physical body, baptism of the dead, magical underwear, and other fantastic absurdities, founded by a convicted con-man and devoted to materialistic gain. I was approached a few times in the past, but honestly, the mere look of anger and loathing on my face ( and my stony refusal to answer ANY of their questions) set them on edge and they quickly left me alone. I'm married to a Buddhist woman, and if there is a more peaceful and accepting approach to life, I haven't been fortunate enough yet to have encountered it. Christians of ALL stripes need to be stopped from poisoning any more minds.
Agree. Buddism is a religion I at least have a little respect for but then again Buddists say its not actually a religion.
@@amandahuginkiss4098 i dunno Karma is an awful nasty concept completely misunderstood in the west . Your child was born with an illness? Good . Must have been evil in a past life . Horrible shit .
Whew..who needs a devil with a god like that....
seriously. And god said "let me send my only son to save humankind from the sin that would not exist if I hadn't created it to save them from an eternity of torment in the place I also created to torture the humans for using the free will I gave them."
@Tim Webb -- the natural inevitability -- so when the next heavenly uprising occurs, which side will you be on?
@Tim Webb my dudeese ,God created Lucifer there for he created sin
Because ur god is all knowing right?
@Tim Webb th-cam.com/video/OwaXqep-bpk/w-d-xo.html
I love how there's an ad for the show The Chosen(a show about Jesus) before the video.
I've only recently discovered you three and I really wish I'd known about your tour when it came here to Australia. I'd have definitely attended.
Seeing you read the Bible this way reminded me of something that I'm amazed by and hopefully you'll find that amazing too.
You see, when I was a kid at one point I was reading a compilation of folklore. Like, greek folklore, sumerian, egyptian, some chinese tales, etc. And among those there was some jewish folklores. I read about Moses. I loved the story of Nebuchadrezzar, that whole thing with colossus on clay legs. That was an really interesting (and kind of sad) story.
Yeah, so, I read the adapted version Bible's old testament as a kid without knowing that it was a holy book and that it was any different from greek legends.
And now it makes me think, how much people are missing by reading the Bible in any other way. By seeing it as a holy scripture, they really can't appreciate it for what it is, an amazing piece of folklore.
@Dirk Knight it wasn't but come on, it's not like folklore can't have the likes of that stuff. Greeks have Kronos eating his own children, Zeus turning into swan and bull and seducing girls, goddesses inciting a war because they felt offended. It doesn't diminish the folklore's value.
I prefer Homer myself better written stories than the bible.
@Dirk Knight Did he not? Oh man, are you wrong. Here, have yet another version of Noah's arc. www.britannica.com/topic/Deucalion
He also literally swallowed his child Athena. And Hades' realm might not be hell but it's a miserable place to be in nevertheless. There even are eternal punishments, remember Sisyphus? There are reasons Dante's hell is inspired more by Greeks than by Christians.
Those stories are on the same level. Neither should be judged for that because the world they were created in was very different back then.
@Dirk Knight stop with that condescending tone. Especially considering you got so many facts wrong already.
@Dirk Knight What kind of bullshit are you talking about, you condescending yet ignorant person? The "bullshit" about Zeus making his own version of flood? The "bullshit" about Sysyphus? The "bullshit" about Zeus, just like Cronos, eating his children?
You don't know the first thing about world mythology yet here you come bashing this book because you think if Aron does that you can to. Except Aron actually knows a lot about the subject whereas you don't.
Loved the family guy clip of god "farting" the big bang 😂😂😂😂 that was awesome!
Blasphemy is a victimless crime
Cant stop watching. The way Ra builds up his story is fucking genius. At 18:29 he really gets into it! Love it!
Now I understand the origin of the practice of priests walking through the aisles of the church wafting smoking incense before every mass.
Also interesting and not accidental that scent is connected to memory and emotion in the brain, indelibly anchoring and returning us to that experience... (wash, rinse, repeat).
"God is good, but it's a 'special kind' of goodness that can't be told apart from pure evil." Christians.
Briliant, as always.
"Trust Reality" -Clive Sandringham
You are the FIRST American I have ever heard who pronounced Brisbane correctly! :)
Keep up the good work Aron! Love your talks.
Aron loves to talk
@@tomahawk257
Evidently you love to be a recalcitrant child.
I'm grateful for AronRa videos I have woken up to the absurdity of religion. I always new Jehova witness, Mormons were way off but the more I listen to AronRa I can see the truth of what he says. There are so many churches, bibles in print literature it is just forced upon us. It is just assumed by many. We really are in a time where I really now for certain that we have to start growing our own food, stop paying the iRS and seriously realize big big money runs the grocery stores that sell a lot of the cancer causing foods. We have to realize the money system is destroying our planet. We have to start questioning everything.
28:58 “As an American atheist addressing an Australian audience, allow me to say...”
That’s the most A’s in a row I’ve ever heard!
The prophecies of A Song of Ice and Fire are a great parallel from the old testament. and technically more accurate (and entertaining) . It becomes a self-fulfilling, as you are influenced to live your life to fulfill and twist the events of your life to "fit" the prophecy. Always love your vids man, great lecture.
nothing fails like scripture
That and prayer
Out of curiosity, is there a website where I can find locations for some of these debates in 2016?
+Jesse Toler www.patheos.com/blogs/reasonadvocates/speaking/
+AronRa Hello AronRa....would love to have you in Santa Fe, NM...or if you ever go to Austin, TX...only a 12 hour drive for me and I have some cool friends there.....keep up the great work!
wish you were coming closer that detroit... :P could you come to somewhere in the Ohio valley??
@@RichardGablick 2020 Mar 23 - Atheist Day - Austin, TX
I had a crazy Christian tell me I was a horrible person for not believing in the supernatural! Said I had no morals!
Can you point me to a not crazy piece of human trash reality denier? A crazy buffoon WITH a moral center and self awareness?
I've been looking for 46 years, haven't found even one.
I've seen this video many times, and I just noticed the double meaning at the end. "Calling them out for what they are, and that is no joke." It means both that he's not joking, and that what creationist apologists are is no joke.
As fun as it is to laugh at them, they do actual harm in the real world.
Wow this guy is a genius! Thanks a lot
Australia is pretty much free of religion influence, or so it seems to me as a resident.
We're free of fundamentalism, but religiously, we're quite prevalent. The caveat is that we're prevalent in most religions, not just a select group.
Is Australia religious? Absolutely, we're very much religious. But we're also religiously *diverse* and religiously *tolerant*.
That said however, atheists are still the largest denomination of faith-related perspectives in the country
We're certainly getting less religious but you can see that it still has a grip on plenty of us when we have things like the current plebiscite
58% of Aussies in the 2016 census identified as Christian yet almost nobody attends church, unless by _attending church_ we really mean going to watch the footy. All the same that statistic really surprised me. I suspect a lot of those people are not too interested in organised religion but it might in part explain the rampant islamophobia to be found here.
frankos rooni.
Queensland is full of religious nut jobs, a lot of them moving there from the southern states. It also happens to be the state with the lowest average IQ, I wonder if there's a connection somewhere 'ey.
as well as the greatest number of cross-dressers in the world
Wind for spirit is a figure of speech. Spirit is used for wind, but spirit isn't the wind blowing. Then there is inspiration which also refer to spirit.
Hmmm..."spirit" might not be the wind blowing, but it sure can feel like it...
Answer to the first question in the video, actually yeah I would say so. Early Roman period was chock full of people who believed all of it. Richard Carrier sortof indirectly talks about this
There is no God but Allah T-shirt, was epic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ikr. I loved it.
I like your debate skills but why not apply the same skepticism towards politics?
The state created religion and is the worst religion.
+Randy Rhoad Well he is from Texas, where unfortunately religion and politics are rather intertwined.
He is doing that.
The music in the intro is awesome. What is it from?
thanks Aron, you literally spell it out better than anyone.