this is probably going to come across as a bit of a weird comment but I just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate that you've gone >800 videos and never jammed unnecessary lengthy intros or outro music into your videos. It's obvious you're more doing this because it's a hobby more than anything else but it makes your videos a lot more watchable just to have your simple introduction and explanation of what the video is about over nonsense like that. Glad to be a subscriber to this channel.
SavageGreywolf - I’ve been slowly working through the back library and it seems it’s been a consistent, and welcome, approach to his uploads since day 1.
Quick. Informative. Straight to the point. Done. No lengthy intros, no begging for likes and comments, no click bait. Every TH-camr should take notes from a channel like this. He clearly does this as a hobby. I doubt he cares much if he's paid for this or not, he just enjoys doing it. Someone who actually enjoys making videos for TH-cam, not some kid trying to make as much money as they can with click bait and overreactions. A true diamond in a sea of actual garbage.
I couldn't agree more. More and more TH-camr's are overproducing their videos so it's nice when a video just gets to the point and doesn't play intro music, music over the talking, outro music, stupid thumbnails, clickbait titles, etc, etc.
Disc-detainer locks are generally the most secure for any kind of non-destructive intrusion. They require considerable acumen for picking to really get through.
@LockPickingLawyer, just an idea. How about putting a microphone on the lock you are picking. This way we may have better idea what is going on inside and hear better when something clicks.
Would you have a reccomendation of a type of microphone that would not drown in distortion while having metals scraped and manipulated upon its target? I would love an addition like that..
Why does this lock seem so much more complicated than the hundreds of others I've watched you pick? Also, you are a truly genuine and inspiring person. Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge on this subject...
I think the steel discs with wider lugs might be for torque resistance. If a torque attack was carried out, the steel discs would protect the brass ones.
Hey LPL - presumably you could cut a couple of false gates into these discs using a small file. I'd love to see you do a tutorial on improving these sorts of disc detainer locks like this, especially since it seems fairly simple to do and would significantly improve security.
Yes you need to use the keys before you pick them more often! I love seeing the many interesting keys work, and how smooth and sound the lock is before you start picking it.
I am new to your channel. I've seen a couple videos in past on my feed, but I must say I love what you do. Informative, to the point, and very pleasant to watch. If I had any comment at all, it would be that I would want to see a video on your favourite lock, a lock that exceeds your expectations, if one exists. All in all, I'm happy to have you in my youtube feed.
You made that look so easy but it's not that easy really. Picked to excellence again. It is great to see a lock of this type gutted. Just goes to show that part of the world does on occasion produce something worth your well earned cash.
Nice lock for the shops that *have the lock very close to the wall.* Would be very hard to break, if it had some outer shell case for protection, and only the key would fit in.
I found a $11.50 Solex lock with the same core with a 45mm body and 9mm moly shackle and bought It off Lazada based on this video. It is good enough to force someone to grind on the steel gate instead at a reasonable price.
Picking definitely isn't a real threat when you need some crazy tool to pick it. I expected you to bust out normal tools and BAM you break out some crazy tool made just for that kind of lock. Very cool.
I share your opinon on the make quality of these Solex locks. Came across them on a holiday in Thailand and was impressed with the make quality. Took some home to germany and i'm really happy with them.
Solex also make some really good motorcycle disc locks. Have you worked with any of them? You can look up the Solex 9040 model motorcycle disc lock if your interested. They sell retail for around US$10. The bright yellow color of the lock is nice too. Helps you to remember you have a lock on the motorcycle before getting on the bike and starting to drive away.
He should go back and do this again with the pick that he made with Bosnian Bill. It would be fun to see him compare the picking difficulty using the two different tools.
I am curious about the learning process you go through when you first get a new lock. I assume you pick the locks a few times and study them prior to videoing, am curious how your first pass goes. As always, great work. Thanks.
Looks like the steel discs are all the same cut...so I am thinking they are 0's and therefore driver discs. So the steel wears much better than brass, especially when the steel discs are driving the lock. I think that the tabs are wider to ensure that make contact with the shell first, stopping wear on other discs because it is via the tabs and shell that the lock gets driven.
I would love for you to have a good microphone very close to a lock, so we can hear the clicks of each pin/disc as you get to them. Obviously hearing you describe the status is great, but I'd love to have the audio too!
It appears a lot of the picking planning comes from researching the lock, knowing the internals, studying the key, etc. Which types of locks would be a strong foil to would be thieves that can't see the key (ridges, dots, Bowley style, etc) and only has the standard common tools (i.e. no making custom tools)
I find it odd that with all the theft going on that this channel doesn't have a lot more views, as a locksmith/picker I enjoy seeing many newer locks that are not as common
I am surprised more manufacturers aren't putting false gates on their disc detainer cores. Seems like a good way to increase security with very little extra cost. There must be some reason though (costs being higher than it looks? Someone out there having a patent on false gates? Intentionally making it weak?)
Thailand makes really great stuff. It's been overlooked as a major trading partner due to political nonsense I'm afraid. I spent some time there and was impressed with their sense of esthetics which filtered across to things like attention to detail and work ethic.
If you use that lock at the opposite side of a door with only a small hole to access from the front to unlock with a key. It makes it impossible for him to pick it. He can't see it, and he can't get a good hold unto it.
Rest in Peace: Christopher Lee, Roger Moore and Hervé Villechaize. Sorry, couldn't help the 1974 reference to the "Solex" in the movie The Man With The Golden Gun.
#LockPickingLawyer or @LockPickingLawyer - Where did you get this lock from, and how much was it please? I cant find it anywhere online and I really like the design of the lock body encasing the staple so it can't be cut. Perhaps you could leave a link in your reply? Thanks, Graham
I know you know this, but for others considering using a chain it would need to either have a ring at one end to pass the chain through or for the end link to be sized to pass partially through another link. The chain would need to work with just one link inside the lock, similar in shape to a hasp on a door.
More for looking a door/ locker. Chain is only as good as it weakest link. In this case a good heavy duty welded tab on a again heavy duty welded ring. Making in impossible to used a bolt cutter or hand saw without cutting the lock itself
@Phantom of the Menace Well, I don't know if this particular lock would work with that setup., what with the hasp being completely enclosed. Franky, I find it hard to think of many uses for this particular lock... Maybe a locker? Really _only_ a locker...
No. They are used for the metal railing type front doors in south east asia. people leave their main door open and the secondary cage door remains locked with one of these. we had one in singapore
Is there a video explaining the disk detainer locking mechanism? Even looking at the gutted discs, I am hard pressed to see more than a couple differences with the naked eye. I am still looking through all of your videos, so please forgive me if it already exists and I have not yet found it.
Recent addition to the channel so I apologize if this has been answered. Are you a lawyer? I'd assume so but your about page doesn't mention anything. Really enjoying your videos. Keep up the great work!
How well do you think this lock would stand up to weather? I want a lock that will survive road salt, snow and ice and a torch that melts said ice. It’s for my trailer doors on my 18 wheeler. If this isn’t a good one for that, any suggestions?
Hey Lock pick lawyer, how about a lock designed like the Solex but instead of a straight key, they invent an "L" shaped key which has to be inserted inside where the grey bay is. That would be difficult to pick with lock picking tools. Bet-cha can't pick a lock like that.
Where can I purchase this lock in the US or order it to have it shipped to the US? Their site doesn't say much in terms of ordering and a Google search doesn't turn up much.
this is probably going to come across as a bit of a weird comment but I just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate that you've gone >800 videos and never jammed unnecessary lengthy intros or outro music into your videos. It's obvious you're more doing this because it's a hobby more than anything else but it makes your videos a lot more watchable just to have your simple introduction and explanation of what the video is about over nonsense like that. Glad to be a subscriber to this channel.
SavageGreywolf - I’ve been slowly working through the back library and it seems it’s been a consistent, and welcome, approach to his uploads since day 1.
Amen to that!
Quick. Informative. Straight to the point. Done.
No lengthy intros, no begging for likes and comments, no click bait. Every TH-camr should take notes from a channel like this. He clearly does this as a hobby. I doubt he cares much if he's paid for this or not, he just enjoys doing it. Someone who actually enjoys making videos for TH-cam, not some kid trying to make as much money as they can with click bait and overreactions. A true diamond in a sea of actual garbage.
I couldn't agree more. More and more TH-camr's are overproducing their videos so it's nice when a video just gets to the point and doesn't play intro music, music over the talking, outro music, stupid thumbnails, clickbait titles, etc, etc.
The only thing I can add to these comments are 'I totally agree.
I went backwards in timeline and was expecting "The Pick that Bosnian Bill and I Made". Panic !
yeah whats up with that?! no bosnian bill :(
@@rubenbrixton620 That's funny, you both have the same profile pic and made your accounts on the same day. What're the odds (:
The pick that me and Bosnian Bill copied
I'll be damned. A lock that got pretty darn high praise by LPL! Not a first, but it sure as hell is rare!
Inkompetent I’ve been binging his videos and I haven’t seen one where he gives his approval.
Aint that the truth!
He like the finish.
Disc-detainer locks are generally the most secure for any kind of non-destructive intrusion. They require considerable acumen for picking to really get through.
@LockPickingLawyer, just an idea. How about putting a microphone on the lock you are picking. This way we may have better idea what is going on inside and hear better when something clicks.
Completely in agreement.
I agree three.
Would you have a reccomendation of a type of microphone that would not drown in distortion while having metals scraped and manipulated upon its target? I would love an addition like that..
Joshua Reavis : how about Sennheiser MKE 600? Not an expert, but audio is what makes-or-brakes a video.
@@andresgazso881 also not an expert but I completely agree. I will look into said Mic. Thanks
Why does this lock seem so much more complicated than the hundreds of others I've watched you pick? Also, you are a truly genuine and inspiring person. Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge on this subject...
I think the steel discs with wider lugs might be for torque resistance. If a torque attack was carried out, the steel discs would protect the brass ones.
Thor Lancaster That was my thought as well, but obviously not sure. Sure is logical, considering the weakness of the brass lugs.
Going backwards through the videos and reaching a disk detainer lock picked before "The Pick that Bosnian Bill and I Made" is weird
"not sure what's holding up right now"
Translation: "this lock will be open in about 15 seconds"
It always seems like 15 seconds is pushing it there
As opposed to "this was raked a minute ago"
Hey LPL - presumably you could cut a couple of false gates into these discs using a small file. I'd love to see you do a tutorial on improving these sorts of disc detainer locks like this, especially since it seems fairly simple to do and would significantly improve security.
Yes you need to use the keys before you pick them more often! I love seeing the many interesting keys work, and how smooth and sound the lock is before you start picking it.
now thats a nice lookiing lock
I live in Thailand and it feel good to see familiar brand in this channel!
I am new to your channel. I've seen a couple videos in past on my feed, but I must say I love what you do. Informative, to the point, and very pleasant to watch. If I had any comment at all, it would be that I would want to see a video on your favourite lock, a lock that exceeds your expectations, if one exists. All in all, I'm happy to have you in my youtube feed.
why am i glued to this like its a thriller? he is picking locks for crissakes!
This lock is ment for apartment door or gate with a shutter bolt of some sort, not for chain ppl
yes. we had one in HDB in Singapore. they are very common.
Yes for Singapore HDB doors
You should score the locks, will be nice to see a playlist of the A+ locks and a list of the E- Locks.
You made that look so easy but it's not that easy really. Picked to excellence again. It is great to see a lock of this type gutted. Just goes to show that part of the world does on occasion produce something worth your well earned cash.
A veritable surgeon of lock passifying..amazing.
First time I've ever seen a disc-detainer lock disassembled.
Wow !!! I would of never guessed all that was in that little lock!! Another great video!! Good job !!
Such a beautiful lock
Nice lock for the shops that *have the lock very close to the wall.*
Would be very hard to break, if it had some outer shell case for protection, and only the key would fit in.
I found a $11.50 Solex lock with the same core with a 45mm body and 9mm moly shackle and bought It off Lazada based on this video. It is good enough to force someone to grind on the steel gate instead at a reasonable price.
Picking definitely isn't a real threat when you need some crazy tool to pick it.
I expected you to bust out normal tools and BAM you break out some crazy tool made just for that kind of lock. Very cool.
The gutting reminds me of Sonic losing his coins/tokens for some reason 😅
Well picked and gutted. Impressive!!
I share your opinon on the make quality of these Solex locks. Came across them on a holiday in Thailand and was impressed with the make quality. Took some home to germany and i'm really happy with them.
Very interesting picking tool, I'll admit.
It's too bad that these locks are so hard to find. I'm glad I trusted my gut and bought one after LPL praised it. I get lots of compliments on it.
One thing is for sure, it's a lock I feel certain, I'd never manage to pick!
That is quite a lovely lock. Great video as always.
Very nice job I never had
much luck with disc container locks...
Very well done Mr. L.P.L.
I'm not certain where the dislikes come from. All of your videos are very straightforward and curiously entertaining
Very Nice info, first one I have seen gutted.
Wow I'm impressed, of both the lock and your skill.
Happy New Year
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Thumbs up for use of tweezer handle to unscrew the cover plate.
What you do is art.
Great video brother, thanks for sharing
You should get a hold of a Solex-brand disc detainer padlock.
That lock holds whole two minutes against LPL and his lockpick!
I ran a large video game route and I used a lock similar in design to this one. My locks were KD padlocks and I always liked them for their security.
Solex also make some really good motorcycle disc locks. Have you worked with any of them? You can look up the Solex 9040 model motorcycle disc lock if your interested. They sell retail for around US$10. The bright yellow color of the lock is nice too. Helps you to remember you have a lock on the motorcycle before getting on the bike and starting to drive away.
Great video!
lock companies should really have a guy like you in house to test the prototype locks before they go into mass production
It took him under two minutes to pick the lock for the first try. Must be a dámn good lock.
You sound really happy this video! Your content is really improving.
So much like the old abloy locks I have, the ones with the d-shaped key. And yet the evolved on different continents.
He should go back and do this again with the pick that he made with Bosnian Bill. It would be fun to see him compare the picking difficulty using the two different tools.
I am curious about the learning process you go through when you first get a new lock. I assume you pick the locks a few times and study them prior to videoing, am curious how your first pass goes. As always, great work. Thanks.
you said it. add your own false gates ,👍😄
Looks like the steel discs are all the same cut...so I am thinking they are 0's and therefore driver discs. So the steel wears much better than brass, especially when the steel discs are driving the lock. I think that the tabs are wider to ensure that make contact with the shell first, stopping wear on other discs because it is via the tabs and shell that the lock gets driven.
Very cool and unusual design, not a bad lock I think.🍺😎
Indeed. Something you don't see every day.
@@two_tier_gary_rumain very common in south east asia.
@@Welcome2TheInternet No doubt but not very common elsewhere. Only a few Solex locks on eBay and not this version.
Great video ! Never seen one of these before, so thank you !
I would love for you to have a good microphone very close to a lock, so we can hear the clicks of each pin/disc as you get to them. Obviously hearing you describe the status is great, but I'd love to have the audio too!
Sometimes I think the thing holding him up is saying “Not sure what’s holding us up right now...” *Click*
You are the master!
It appears a lot of the picking planning comes from researching the lock, knowing the internals, studying the key, etc. Which types of locks would be a strong foil to would be thieves that can't see the key (ridges, dots, Bowley style, etc) and only has the standard common tools (i.e. no making custom tools)
What can say HAPPY NEW YEARS LPL..VERY VERY INTERESTING well explained buddy thanks for the great video my friend. 😎
Brilliant video, thx
they also manufacture one with the shackle coming off the short side, with a longer shackle running through the longer side
I find it odd that with all the theft going on that this channel doesn't have a lot more views, as a locksmith/picker I enjoy seeing many newer locks that are not as common
I feel disc detainer locks are usually pretty secure because few people have the tools necessary to pick them.
1000+ video's about picking locks... "but picking isn't a real world problem"... :D
The brass is most likely acting as a softer wear component that won't gouge the steel and will allow the steal to turn past it
That’s a beaut Clark!
I am surprised more manufacturers aren't putting false gates on their disc detainer cores. Seems like a good way to increase security with very little extra cost.
There must be some reason though (costs being higher than it looks? Someone out there having a patent on false gates? Intentionally making it weak?)
That's a tough one
Amazing..! A picking video.!
Nitrous Banshee - crazy right. I mean, going to a lockpicking channel and finding someone picking locks. Who’d a thunk...
He doesn't even picked your lock. He even disassemble your lock without any help of heavy tools.
Thailand makes really great stuff. It's been overlooked as a major trading partner due to political nonsense I'm afraid. I spent some time there and was impressed with their sense of esthetics which filtered across to things like attention to detail and work ethic.
Very cool lock any practical uses
I want to see it put back together! 😁
Can you play in reverse on TH-cam? 😋
Well done, what a great lock. Can you tell me how you first determine what end the lock tensions from before you start.
Amazing.
Who are you? Where did you learn this? Very impressive!
If you use that lock at the opposite side of a door with only a small hole to access from the front to unlock with a key. It makes it impossible for him to pick it. He can't see it, and he can't get a good hold unto it.
Rest in Peace: Christopher Lee, Roger Moore and Hervé Villechaize. Sorry, couldn't help the 1974 reference to the "Solex" in the movie The Man With The Golden Gun.
That's how to open it! With the power of the sun!
And Britt Ekland in a bikini, don’t forget!
Michael James She's not dead yet.
#LockPickingLawyer or @LockPickingLawyer - Where did you get this lock from, and how much was it please? I cant find it anywhere online and I really like the design of the lock body encasing the staple so it can't be cut. Perhaps you could leave a link in your reply? Thanks, Graham
Product page, www.solex.com.my/padlocks/
You can contact them to ask via sales@solex.com.my
How big of a chain could fit in there? Might be an option for bike locking.
Thats what I was thinking. Because of the shackle placement it might be awkward to use it on most things
I know you know this, but for others considering using a chain it would need to either have a ring at one end to pass the chain through or for the end link to be sized to pass partially through another link. The chain would need to work with just one link inside the lock, similar in shape to a hasp on a door.
More for looking a door/ locker.
Chain is only as good as it weakest link.
In this case a good heavy duty welded tab on a again heavy duty welded ring. Making in impossible to used a bolt cutter or hand saw without cutting the lock itself
@Phantom of the Menace Well, I don't know if this particular lock would work with that setup., what with the hasp being completely enclosed.
Franky, I find it hard to think of many uses for this particular lock... Maybe a locker? Really _only_ a locker...
No. They are used for the metal railing type front doors in south east asia. people leave their main door open and the secondary cage door remains locked with one of these. we had one in singapore
Picked in 2, 1/2 mins!
Time for a manicure lol
Great channel!
Go easy on me... I spent the day uncrating and cleaning up a lathe. My poor fingers got abused.
@@lockpickinglawyer Your content far outweighs the aesthetics of your fingers.
‘…a little more smoothly.’ SIGH. SMOOTHER!
Great.
it took him a little over two minutes. i find myself scrubbing the time line to figure out his start and stop times.
Is there a video explaining the disk detainer locking mechanism? Even looking at the gutted discs, I am hard pressed to see more than a couple differences with the naked eye. I am still looking through all of your videos, so please forgive me if it already exists and I have not yet found it.
Ah, using the pick that ChineseBill and he made.
Great pickin' LPL. Can disc detainer locks be re-pinned/re-keyed??
its a locksmith level task, but disc detainer cores can be rekeyed in some cases. depends on the lock
I do like the finish of this lock, maybe a touch of loctite may be useful as well (ok I am fussy)
Recent addition to the channel so I apologize if this has been answered. Are you a lawyer? I'd assume so but your about page doesn't mention anything. Really enjoying your videos. Keep up the great work!
Yes, I’m really a lawyer. 👍
Do you have a video where you picked and gutted a disc detainer lock with false gates? I'd like to see that. Thanks!
Is it that disc locks require more specialized equipment to pick open as to why picking isn't the best way to attack them?
I was looking for this lock instead found a LEXPON CQC TOP SECURITY I was wondering about this lock now but haven found it in your past videos.
A clone of it is coming my way let us see how it fares.
love that pinning tray! May I ask what brand is?
How well do you think this lock would stand up to weather? I want a lock that will survive road salt, snow and ice and a torch that melts said ice. It’s for my trailer doors on my 18 wheeler. If this isn’t a good one for that, any suggestions?
Hey Lock pick lawyer, how about a lock designed like the Solex but instead of a straight key, they invent an "L" shaped key which has to be inserted inside where the grey bay is.
That would be difficult to pick with lock picking tools. Bet-cha can't pick a lock like that.
I'd be interested in a tour of the "store bought" parts of your kit. Perhaps with links for purchase?
John Lee Pettimore III - a lot of its from Banggood.com. He’s done some earlier uploads of some of their kit he rates.
Locks like this are put in shutters which makes it difficult to use the tools you use. Thoughts on this?
Where can I purchase this lock in the US or order it to have it shipped to the US? Their site doesn't say much in terms of ordering and a Google search doesn't turn up much.
What kind of shackles would this be used for? I can’t picture the kinds of lock hasp it would attach to.