ALTRA OLYMPUS 4.0 REVIEW | The Ginger Runner
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The new Altra Olympus 4.0 is the best Olympus yet. After the 3.5 made my list of go-to trail running grabs in 2019, the new version changes very little but manages to improve in some of the 3.5's shortcomings. Plenty of cushion for longer efforts and an improved outsole make the Olympus 4.0 one of my favorite trail shoes of 2020 thus far. But boy, it's pricey! What do you think?
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I’m loving the new Altra Olympus 4.0 and feel it’s a solid update to an already great workhorse of a shoe - what are your thoughts on Altras new Max-cushion trail runner? Is it too expensive??
if you're in the market for a max cushioned shoe you are already looking in that upper price bracket - perhaps $170 isn't too much? After all you are going to get a LOT of (isn't the phrase "A TON OF MILES") wear out of the shoe - much more so than a high priced road shoe especially the carbon plated "wonder shoes" that are so much the fashion ... so yeah - Hey mate hope you have the Inov8 G 270 in your rotation - highly recommend it!
Just picked up another 3.5 for a bargain, will go for this after for sure.
I was hoping to see a timp 2 review, are we ever gonna get one?
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@@TheGingerRunner Awesome, thanks for the link! Idk why it didnt pop up when i searched for it.
Followed you since the start and really love your channel.
Loads of respect for Running Warehouse too for their great service and for being a team with the ginger when it comes to providing the best and maybe the only unbiased reviews on the tube.
Nice to know that there are still people you can trust.
Already got mine. The best Olympus ever!!! What amazed my the most is that once you put it on and start to run, it feels so much lighter than it actually is, really a great trail shoe. Bravo Altra!!! Hit all the marks with this one!
Yes! This shoe is AMAZING, better than the previous version, and the price is inappropriately high.
3 years later, I find these for 90$ which is a steal in my country, either that or 235$ for topo shoes lol
Love, love, the 3.5 can’t wait for the 4. Been waiting for this review.... now onto Daily Brew in a bit. Keep up the amazing work. You and Kim are helping keep all of us balance and sane! 👍🏼❤️✌🏽
Thank you so much for this video! I really need to start looking after myself. ♥️
I’ve had it in the PCT for about 400 miles now and it’s definitely decreased my overall foot pain significantly. The fit is surprisingly similar to the Timp 1.5 - wider and higher volume than the Olympus 3.5. I wish the forefoot rubber went back another inch or so, but overall it’s the best hiking shoe I’ve ever worn.
Yeah bro, I've been waiting for this review. I went with the Olympus 3.5 and like you said, great shoe but loose in the heel. I bought the 4.0 three weeks ago and I love it even more. It's definitely lighter. I like the new tongue design. Super grippy on technical terrain and like running on a cloud on the flat gravel trails. The heel is way more snug but still looser than the Timp. I'm over it. One major design update though is the front of the outsole. They split it into five independent sections to improve stability and reduce the risk of ankle rolls. So if you step on a root or rock, only the part of the shoe on the object is pushed upward as opposed to the whole thing. Compare the bottoms of the 3.5 and 4.0 and you'll see what I mean. And hey, one feature that is kinda cool, take a picture of it with your flash on. Very reflective. Good review. I agree with you. Hope your lives are peaceful and balanced out there bro. Namaste.
Cool!! I had my son to bring me a pair of Superior 4 from the USA. And I fell in love with Altra. They are great for the natural Running. I hope to get one of these for long runs in the future.
Thank you for the great review! Haven't seen these in Canada yet but I'll be looking out for them.
I’ve just bought a pair on line from a company in Alberta called Skiuphill. They have a discounted price and free shipping. Got the sent to British Columbia. Arrived by UPS in 4 days. The only place in Canada I could find them. They also sell a lot of Inov-8. I’ve bought from them before. Good personal service. I’m going to use them for long distance hiking to replace my Timps.
I’ve just picked up a pair of these…absolutely love them. Great grip, fit is perfect for me and I’m sure it’ll get better as I get more used to it.
Just added these to my Altra collection, they are awesome, they feel light and nimble even though they look somewhat like clodhoppers.
Just ordered myn from jog shop here in Brighton, who kindly contacted thier rep at Altra. Should have myn by the weekend. Cant wait to try them out.
Just got mine today. Feel great, I do love them A LOT
Just picked up a pair 25% off from Moosejaw. First departure away from Lone Peaks. Looking forward to it - thanks for the review!
So pumped for these - pre-ordered them in the UK so I should be getting them in a couple of weeks. Loving the Ferrari red colourway :D
Thank you so much for mentioning the issue about the cushion. I have experienced the same issue with the Lone Peak 6 and the Superior 5, even though it is says they have the same cushioned, they felt less and I've experienced even pain in the legs after a short run
I was literally going to comment on your Olympus 3.5 video last night asking when the 4.0 review was coming!!
I read your mind!
WUHU been waiting for this !! :D
Love all your reviews!!! Please review the latest saucony peregrine!!
You hit this one right on the head! I love everything about this shoe but it did feel like it has a little less cushion.... I'm running a 100k this weekend on the PCT and I'm rolling with the 3.5 because of this...
Totally agree and wish I could find a size 12 of the 3.5!
It's the same amount of cushion. It's just a bit of a different shape under the forefoot.
the 2.5 has 36mm! i think that was the most they’ve ever done.
Damn, I want a pair soooo bad but I’m sticking with the Timps I guess until price drops. Too expensive!
Love these, I definitely think they're worth it but not looking forward to replacing them when they wear out lol.
Hey Ethan--have you looked into the Reebok Floadride symmetros--its light stable and bouncy and I really think you'd dig it.
Excellent video as always. I think the only thing that justifies the price increase is the Vibram outsole despite that fact they are still less than what Newtons were in 2007 which were $175 back then. I think Altra has a weird needs to try to make certain shoes lighter like this one that don’t need to be lighter. And they unfortunately do it by thinning the tongues. Very annoying. Need I say the “Duo”? To hear it has less cushioning is disappointing yet to me mean they are trying to focus this shoe on true trail running and not as a hybrid road/trail shoe. I’ll totally agree they look way better. Thanks GR for your video reviews. Hopefully you’ll get to review some of the new Topo’s and possible more road shoes.
Doesn’t quite compare in the stack height but in curious how this shoe compares to the innov8 terraultra 270. Both are marketed as long distance zero drops. Looking forward to your review on it!
Awesome! Do those little slits under the toes suck up rocks? My Hoka Mafates 2 sucked up rocks out here in New Mexico . Really want to try these but worried those little grooves in these Altras would suck up and hold rocks .
Terrific review, Ginger Runner, as always. SIZING QUESTION: I normally wear size 13 for road and trail, but had to size down to 12.5 in the Paradigm 4.5 (only Altra I have ever owned). Are the paradigm and Olympus 4 similarly sized?
I’ve been trying to transition to Altra’s for the last 600 miles (rotating between Timp 1.5’s and Hoka’s) but my Achilles doesn’t seem to like zero drop. Whenever I get past about 10-15 miles a week in them I feel pain. I love the way zero drop feels and I was really looking to getting the Olympus 4’s when they were announced earlier in the year, but I’ve given up. I’ll just stick with Hoka’s which seem to be working for me.
I got 1100 miles from my 3.0 stopped running in them now but ok for walking still very durable
Looks nice! I still prefer the more minimal Altras.....just snagged last year's Superior for $54. Hard to beat that!
That is a SCREAMIN deal!
take a look at the Inov8 G 270 ... best trail shoe of the year (maybe ever) - zero drop wide toebox "more minimal" Good luck!
gosekinz I’m looking hard at the G 270.
What are peoples thoughts on using these as backpacking shoes? I've been using altra for backpacking for a while but am starting to consider switching as Im no longer sure they provide enough protection and they seem to blow out relatively quickly.
170$us would put the altra at over 200australian pacific pesos ...150$au is where i normally check out ...picked up a pair of nb hierro v5's recently for 100$ in an online closeout sale ...a bit heavy and clunky but oh so comfy and forgiving for my ancient feet ..love em ...great review as always ginger ...
i have the olympus 3.5 , they great . These look excellent to
I wore this for the first time on the last 7.5 miles of a 50 miler last month. I wore it after running in the evo speedgoats, the midsole here while enough stack height it just seems hard and not cushioned enough for how big as heavy it is and being positioned as their max cushion offering
Olympus 4.0 is less cushioned than 3.5 and 3.0. But I think the decrease in the weight can make the shoes becoming much more all-rounded for most of the distances.
My first and favorite Altra was the Timp. Got the Timp 2.0 and was disappointed that it got smaller. Does this shoe compare to the Timp overall, toe box width, depth at the heel? I wear orthotic insoles that fit great in the Timp but not so great in the 2.0 so that is a factor for me in wanting something closer to the Timp. Can no longer find the Timp in my size, so looking at these but don't want to be wrong like with the Timp 2.0....
GR! Great review.
I'm in on this one! I hated the early versions of Altra and gave mine away after 1 run. Should have just kept it because it was the earliest version of thg he brand.
I love my Altra Olympus 4.0 shoes. Great traction, good fit, getting it broken in well. Currently have 100 miles in on this shoe and just had outter mesh tear when hit side of rock or stick on weekend trail run. Definite bummer. Altra says, not going to cover under their warranty. Super bummer! Next move is to try & patch it/sew it, glue it up. I would still buy again but am hoping/expecting to get 500 miles out of this pair. So apparently the upper mesh will not "hold up to anything you can throw at it."
Yeah this happened to me after wearing for 18 miles.
I was mountain scrambling and my foot slipped down between two rocks. Luckily it diddent tear but a severe scuff (prob 1/3 of the way through the fabric).
However I had gone on a 10 mile moderate trail run the day before with no issues.
I think if the terrain is such that you will need scrapping the sides often, they won't last long.
However if its technical terrain that mainly hits just the soles you are good to go.
Something like the Speedgoat would be great in that mountainous environment because the upper is tough and reinforced but then your toes are going to get squished.
I think Altra are afraid of too much rigidity which goes against the while ethos of a comfortable foot
preordered a pair..
As I was very happy with my purchase of the 3.0 and 3.5 versions I am genuinely curious ... if the 3.5s are available for $100 and the 4.0 are $170 ... are the 4.0s 70% better - after all I can (almost) get two pairs of 3.5s for the same money?
May I ask, How does the Olympus 4.0 fit compared to the Olympus 1.5? IMHO the 1.5's were the best fit for me. Later models were too tight. Thanks!
I just picked up a pair of these for $95. First run impressions are very good.
Had a pair of Speedgoat 4 until it started wearing out by 250km (multiple trails and streams). As a heavy weight, shoes worn out fast for me. So just got a fresh pair of Olympus 4 and I'm looking forward to my first run.
How you like the olympus 4 shoe compared to SG4? I really like the SG4 but cant buy them anymore in my size so im thinking olympus 4. SG5 has bad reviews.
@@nosehair3717 Actually my Olympus 4 is entering retirement after 800km and it's still very comfortable. I've got the SG5 and the megagrip is already wearing down after 50km, sadly.... determined its a racing shoe not your typical everyday shoe.
Has Altra found a new manufacturer? They have had QC problems for years; I had to look at 3 different pairs to find one without defects the last time I bought some (Lone Peak)
Whats this like on pavement? I do a lot of trail to concrete and then back type runs. Does this have that firm feel that the Paradigms have, or more squishy?
This will likely be my shoe for next hiking season. Unless the 4.5 comes out and turns out to be a game changer or something.
So, I'm a dinosaur, in age and Olympus usage. Had one pair of 2.0 which were pretty nice and comfy on a100k UNTIL they reached the first water crossing which turned that toebox into a rice paddy for 100s of meters whereas, on the same course on a 50k the year before, the Peregrines drained properly within a dozen steps. I really like the Olympus overall as an ultra shoe but I'm still traumatized by that blister dorado they caused me. Somebody convince me to even come closer than 10ft from Olympus again; do they drain nowadays or should I head over to those Sketchers trailmaxdingdongs with their EXTRA drainage?
I love everything about the new version except I am missing that added cushion that the 3.5’s had. As I run in them more and more, I’m liking them more.
Same and wish I could get a size 12 in the 3.5!
Hi. What’s the toe box like in terms of hight? TIA!
And Ethan, it’d be awesome if you could include this question in the «FIT» part of your reviews. 🙏🏽
Man,,, I've been so disapointed with how Altra turned the Timp 1.5 into a "unusabled for their base fans feet" Timp 2.0 that I have bought a second pair of Olympus 3.5. I was afraid that the fit would be too shalow. I'm glad you like em but I know you've like the Timp 2 as well. I'll have to try them I guess.. :)
I’m curious if you’ve ran in the New Balance Hierro v5’s? Wondering if they are comparable to the Altra Olympus 4.0.
Like the shoe despite of the price although I find it on a sale. Have some worries on the middelpart of the sole which get damaged way earlier zo reduces the lifetime. One thing that keeps bothering on Altra 's in general is the length of the laces. Depending the size the laces are always to short or way to long. Would be nice if they could do something about that.
I use the Altra's for hiking...and that is what is making me nervous about the recent changes. On the Olympus 4 they kept their old midsole foam which to me seemed to flatten out and stop recovering as fast shortly after 100 miles. That made it had to use the Timp 1.5 daily. The Timp 2 looks great with the new midsole material, but they changed the upper to something much more narrow. Now the Olympus 4 looks like Timp 1.5 on an Olympus midsole and outsole, but can I trust the midsole for daily use for oh say 500 miles on the AT? And do I want to pay these prices to learn if they hold up to the daily load of hiking? Just not sure I want to take Altras on the trail next year.
Topo has been in my experience more consistent between generations of wide toe box shoes. Though they tend to be firm.
This shoe is amazing.....i use it for trekking.
"slurpees and maple bars" :)
How would these be for running over rocks and roots? Trying to decide between the Olympus 4's or lone peak 5's. I like how the Olympus has a lot of cushion but afraid the higher stack height might be to much for the technical trails I hike/run and be unstable.
What about the tongue? No biting into your leg just above the socks? I got blisters in Hoka SG4s because of the new tongue.
Can anyone speak to transitioning to these from a higher drop? I'm currently exclusively using sense ride 2's (8mm) but want to start running in altras, specifically the Olympus 4.0. I've tried looking online but most of the advice is tailored toward road-running, not trails. I have no major pain issues or anything like that, and am aware I'd need to slowly transition like Ethan said.
Best looking max cushion shoe.
How are these for going over rocks? Ran over a pointy rock and hurt a lot in my salomon speed cross 5's so i'm looking for something that can handle rocks better. Looking forward to the altra lonepeak 5 which has a rock plate when it gets released or was thinking of going with these but I don't think they have a rock plate?
A question a cannot seem to find an answer for - how would you compare the cushioning between the Hoka Speedgoat and the Altra Olympus 4? Thanks
Great video. Walking the Camino de Frances September 15th 2020. 500 plus miles. Will this shoe last? cushioning...and mesh exterior have been cited as possible issues. Thanks.
What about rolling your ankle with that high stack height? I would like to use this as a hiking shoe, what are your thoughts
Does it feel as much like a slipper as the Lone Peak 4.5, or is it more rigid/supportive? Thanks
I've been running in the 4.0's for a few weeks as part of Runner's World shoe test program and your feedback definitely tracks well with what I shared with them a few weeks ago. I really like Altra, but I was really skeptical when I got them (red and white colorway) because I've never run in something with this much stack height. I was never so happy to be wrong. They are surprisingly nimble, really comfortable and very durable. My only point of concern has been how the midsole material is going to hold up on the sole of the shoe over the long term, but so far I have zero complaints (it it definitely pricey though).
So what's the verdict on that rudder/flipper? I never did like it on the Lone Peaks and Timps. I don't know why they put it on this Olympus version.
Sounds like a great shoe but that price point. Ouch! If Altra, who has been plagued with quality control issues can guarantee these will last....say 500-600 miles I’d overlook the price and buy them in a heartbeat. Can’t drop $170 to chuck’em after 250-300 miles.
Danny Pimienta What was your last Altra? All the newest versions are of drastically better quality.
I have the 3.0. Love. But a little squishy for sidehilling
Hefty price + “don’t expect the sole to last too long”... is my biggest problem with almost all the new shoes.
If I can’t get 1,000km (600m) out of a shoe I’m already pissed off. The prices keep going up, but they don’t last longer 😡
Recently ordered 4.0 and after a few runs I can only state that the shoe does not fit my foot as 3.0 did. Difficulties with heel grip and thinner tongue means that the lacing limits the blood supply if I tighten so that the shoe is tight and the foot slides both sideways and forward in technical terrain.
Has the same size 9 as on the old 3.0 but the shoe unfortunately feels like a completely new model. My tip! do not buy before you have tested in store. Ordering the shoe based on previous experience with size and feel is not recommended.
Hi, any update on the cushioning? Does it still holding up after more miles in?
yo, real random question.
Do you think i can double these up as an easy day/short/form (basically a recovery/day haha) road runner as well as an easy day trail runner??
After a few more months; has the cushioning still held up or has it pancaked? Anyone had experience with this shoe past 250 miles or so?
Hi
I have these shoes, I love them too. About 100 miles on them.
I can't believe it. Every time I go to buy new shoes I come away thinking man, I wish they made an 11.75. 11.5 too tight, 12 a little too sloppy. And now I find out The Ginger Runner has had the same experience!
The last two iterations have over 600 miles each and have had no build quality issues (3.0 flattened a little). For me this a buy, my hobbit's feet love the miles in these.
Hi! Do you have same size number for your foot on Altra Olympus 4.0 and Nike wildhorse 7,6,5 and 4?
I want to buy Altra Olympus 4.0 and i have Nike Wildhorse 4 and 5 -> 44,5 EU size :)
I want to use it for an 100k ultra.
Thanks!
I held out buying the 4.0 for a long time. My last 2 pairs of 3.5 got over 800 miles each. The 4.0 with just over 200 miles is falling apart. Like all Olympus shoes the outsole is peeling away from the upper and an eyelet is ripping out. If this pair makes it to 300 miles I will be shocked. Would love to see you review the new 5.0 but at $180 I am hesitant with the poor experience I have had with the 4.0.
I noticed that the size 11 has noticeably more cushioning than the 10.5 in the same Olympus shoe?? Is that possible?
Agree, hate the price but LOVE the shoe. It may not feel quite as cushioned but it is much more responsive, and that's a good trade-off. Bye Timps...
Nice color too
Answer please, If I have Altra Escalante 2.0, size 48 eu, what size for Olympus 4 do you recommend?
Hoka Stinson: no vibram megagrip - $160.
Altra Olympus: has vibram megagrip - $170 = everybody loses their minds
Stinson? The evo mafate 2 is hokas 100 miler vibram grip trail shoe. I have it. U cant compare any altra shoe to that mate... altra shoes r shit on technical terrain - they r too loose in forefoot which makes u glide and feel insecure on steep downhill. They can for same reason cause blisters on toes unless u over strengthing laces which is also uncomfortable. The altra shoe i had was too soft, and it lost any dampening after 50 miles - tried to return them! 0mm drop cause enormous stress on calves - 3 to 4 mm is min. For shoes that r comfortable. Dont buy the barefoot hype. These r too loose, to swampy, dont last, cant use in technical terrain. Buy hoka or salomon or maybe innov 8? Stop hyping shoes which in reality dont work in terrain, give u blisters, destroys u calves.
TheVikingquest I was just making what I thought was a humorous observation on price point. Not saying one shoe is better than another. Everyone’s feet are different, sounds like you tried a pair of Altra’s and they didn’t work out for you, they may work for others. That said, your point on the Mafate makes my observation stand. Mafate = max cushion trail with Vibram megagrip $170. If people want a max cushion shoe and for the brand to slap that name brand outsole on it the price usually will be around that mark :)
@@machonacho2197 hey, didnt mean too sound so harsch! I guess i was so annoyed still by throwing a pair of almost new 140 dollar trail shoes in the trash after 50 miles... my, and many others opinion that i both read and saw on altra is that the ego midsole isnt durable, their own none vibram rubber is dangerously slippry in on wet rocks and roots (i took one hard fall on them) and loose their dampeninh really quick. I read of some ultra runners who runs 100 miles in them and then have to toss them as they r hard as nails! As u said some might find these to fit, but u have to have extremely wide feet for them and still they dobt work well downhill running... So again, dont waste u money on a low quality, albeit interistung shoe - its still faulty for 95% of runners. When something sucks u should speak out. The store i bought them in was gonna send them to usa! even though Every video and/or review on these, not sponsored, speaks of how badly the ego midsole lasts. They should be pulled from market unless revised. Yes, it also makes me annoyed that so many opions on youtube in the end r just sponsor plugs, or done with some strange commitment - like keep the shoes, but give us an 90% honest review that seems ernest - like this one. Dont buy. Easy. No video needed - no payment transmitted.
@Jeff Johanson yeah. I have half a size up too to get some more room. With that said, for racing, who really wants altra toebox? They felt insecure, slippery and unconnected. I got blisters in front if toes. I still cant recommend anyone byuing altras. I have a new salomon pro 4, just bought on sale. Its even more cramped spacewise, but still they r brutally trustworthy in forest, more stabile then mafate. But i run a half marathon (2.30 to 3 hours technical elevation) every other week in mafate - my feet never hurt, my knees feel fine every time. I do understand why this is the most used 100 mile shoe...
@@TheVikingquest feet are different though. I ran a 75 k in my first altras (timp 1.5) had a great result with zero pain and no blisters.
Altras feel like they are made for my feet and when i try my old hokas nikes and solomons now they are way to narrow and that explains why i had so much pain when racing in those. Even the clifton 6 wide is a little bit to snug. I think in the long run altras are truly the best, for me.
But with the superior for example, i know what you mean with the downhill aspect.
Can you use these shoes for running on asphalt as well? Thanks!
The Timp hurts the top of my foot, the Loan peak hurts the bottom of my feet beyond about 15 miles. Is it worth me trying the Olympus for 50 milers?
Can you recommend a trail running shoe that is light, but could still get me through a 50k comfortably?...As comfortable as a 50k can be :)
Man.....$170 is steep.....but it does look like a killer shoe!!! Solid review as always. Trying to decide if I want to grab the 3.5 on sale or save up for the 4.0.
The 3.5 is still a great shoe!
@@TheGingerRunner Word. Also want to check out the Timp 2.0 as well.
What are you measuring to say this is lighter than the 3.5? When I look at the site, Altra says 3.5 weighs 303 grams where the 4.0 weighs 329 grams.
Anyone know when the Olympus 4.5 or 5 is due?
Given the wide toebox, would these possibly work for someone who is neutral runner but 4E width...maybe wearing a thin sock? I haven't found a good 4E cushion trail shoe since NB Leadville...any recommendations if this shoe won't work? TIA
Possibly a little late to the party Nashville Jeff but I am a 4E and Brooks Cascadia 16 Wide fit perfectly.
I size up half to counter any foot expansion from long runs.
However it is firmer than I like so I have ordered Speesgoat 4 Wide but have a feeling they will be still too narrow
Can you patch them if you have an older version?
Loved the review but what’s the name of your hat! I need it in my life
in case he did not respond, that's an old Seattle Mariners baseball logo on the hat
Came here for Ethan's sense of humor! (Won't ever consider Altra until they actually offer a wide mid-foot fit.)
I run in a Salomon SpeedCross 5, because I run on gravel.
are these shoes good for summer timer ?
Looks like it has the same tongue as the new Torin 4.5, which is a total dealbreaker for me. In a max cushion shoe, I prefer a cushioned upper as well. Otherwise, I was seriously considering this as my next trail shoe. And....$170, ugh is right.
Do they fit true to size?
Is the sizing of the 4.0’s similar to that of the 3.5’s?
I feel they run a bit smaller..at least they do compared to my Superiors 4.0