I wear ALtra Olympus 4 and trail hike at 77. I find the Olympus original width encourages foot/toe strength but ALtra wear out faster. I stopped wearing Lone Peak 6 when the total heel area fell apart
To be fair, as someone who has worked in running specialty for twenty years of my life, the shoes at the end of the day are trail runners, running shoes. Running shoes typically have a 300-500 mile life span. And that will vary on user, their size, their form, and the surfaces they are on. It’s safe to say that most shoes will last longer than that, but you won’t be getting what they originally were offering in terms of support and cushion. When folks would return a pair of shoes to me after hundreds of miles with some tear in the mesh where their toenail kept popping up, I would return it and give them a new pair, but with the reminder that this would likely happen again, the shoe isn’t designed to do more than what it did. Sure you could add stronger overlays, but overlays add weight, they reduce flexibility and they heighten the chance of blisters and rubbing. Just some thought :) also! If you rotate shoes every other day, both will last longer. EVA and cushioning materials need a chance to “ bounce back”.
Yeah but for this price they shouldn't come unglued and blow out and lose tread at the 100 mile mark. I've been running mountains and front range trails in Colorado for a long time. Handful of ultras. Proper running form. I clean my shoes and take care of them. I've never worn such a disappointing shoe as Altra. They feel amazing until about 100 miles then they literally fall apart piece by piece with every run after that. The tread does not last and they pack out to the point where they have about as much cushion as the old NB Minimus. Remember those? For me anyway the only shoes that hold up and last are Sportiva and Salomon. Altra needs to step up their engineering and lower the cost. It seems like they sell a lot of hype.
I had a pair of Teva hiking shoes awhile back where the upper mesh was made of Kevlar. I wore out the soles long before the mesh would ever give. It's total bs that companies couldn't make their shoes more durable
I think we are going pretty overboard when excusing lack of quality for less weight. I mean let's be real lol how much weight do overlays add?? Is it even measurable? I'm 6'0 and 170lbs. I'm 44 and have been a runner since I was in middle school in the late 80s and running in CO for well over a decade. Tough terrain but for me it's just no excuse that Altra shoes fall apart on me around 100 miles or so. I've worn Sportiva's mutant shoe for two full seasons and not one single tear in mesh or anything coming unglued. The tread lasts longer than any other shoe I've owned. Just my opinion but I think Altra is great at marketing an idea and a philosophy and not so much at building a shoe that's withstood the test of time on trails. Again just my opinion and experience. I see a lot of Altra in ultras so I'll give them that.
My Olympus 4's have lasted nicely. Fastpacking and trail ultrarunning. I've been on trails all over Finland, Italian Dolomites and Lapland. The first pair has 900km and just a small hole on top. And the second has 300km and good as new. Very happy
yea, I dont know why this guy has issues with them. it seems like you can be unlucky and kick a branch or something that creates a start for the mesh to deteriorate. I dont have personal experience with olympus, but I have used the lone peaks for quite some time
I have know 250 miles in my Altra Olympus 4 and they look perfect from the top. One year ago I watched your and lots of other videos about this shoe and I was sceptical if they can hold long. That's the reason why I count the miles I wear them. They have not one hole in it. I use them for running and hiking and they look just like new. As you can see there are people with maybe a more gently walking and running style and these people have no issues. I've got also the Altra Escalante Racer and they look perfect from the top too. And I have over 400 miles in them.
I have these shoes for two years now and I am very happy with them. I switched to them after I was diagnosed a problem with my hip, for therapy a began to walk and jogging on trails in the woods. I was comfortable from the beginning, it was a completley different experience from the start because of the foot shape. The zero base was something to get used to, but once you have it will make a very positive difference. Walking and light jogging in uneaven terrain never felt better, I do not use other shoes ever since. And my pair did not desintegrate, they look really ok after 2 years of use 2 to 3 sessions a week. But I am just an average user, not really hardcore, but a lot of distance is made cross country with sticks and wet stones and I never had such good grip in wet and muddy conditions with any other shoes, not even hiking boots. I like the regular non Goretex version, because if you get wet or damp feet the dry very quick and in hot conditions you stay much cooler, where as the Goretex heat up and are not as breathable, plus they are heavier. So I will use them more, I even ordered a pair of Olympus 5s - because the sole of my 4s will not last another year I guess, but they have made more miles than any of my other shoes - because I used them so much. My hip and knees recovered well so it was a success for me. I hope this helps..... Ah and just to say I am from Switzerland and the hiking was done in the Alps so you can consider that difficult terrain I guess 😉 and I do not use hiking boots if possible but that is a perference
Nice video! I love altra shoes and these are no exception. I have run 200 miles in my Olympus 4 and no holes in the mesh at all. It actually holds up very well. Even the Timp 2 which several complain about durability i've reached at least 300 miles in with no mesh breakdown. Just outsole wear which is to be expected. Good luck on your through hike! 💥👊🤠
So you are lucky. I have my pair of Olympus4 just for 3 months with 108km on the counter and the mesh started breaking. Bought them for race in May and August but can’t imagine this😡
I hiked 1800 miles in Brooks Cascadia 13’s which have a rock plate. I have hiked countless miles in Altra Lone Peaks. For someone my age the zero drop was a concern, but I have not had any issues with my Achilles. As for durability I change shoes every 400 miles, so most of my shoes do not have any issues. The tears in the sides usually come from placing my foot in between two rocks. I am currently wearing Altra Superior’s which come with a rock plate insert which you place under the insole. Thank you for all the great videos! Happy Hiking!
Great review. I've been hiking in Lone Peaks for about 5 years without any big issues. Then last year bought the Altra Superior (even less cushioning) for running. But since then I've been having some knee/hamstring issues. Have recently purchased these Olympus for the fact they have more cushioning, as well as a pair of NB Hierro V6 Xwides, and a wide model of the Hoka Speedgoat 4s, so actually bringing some drop back into my shoes and change things up to see if that will help my knee/hamstring problems. Will still go to Lone Peaks (or maybe the Olympus) for hiking.
Good honest review. Sick of expensive trail shoes, I decided almost a year ago to buy decathlon trail running shoes : kiprun trail race 4. I believe that this specific model isn't produced anymore, but the principle still applies. In my opinion is very simple: after using it in both trail running and hiking over hundreds of kilometers, they have never failed me. No blisters, no slippage, no breakage. The best thing I can say about a piece of gear is, it just works. It cost me, at the time, 60 eur. Being one of the most expensive models from decathlon, but very cheap compared with most brands. Aren't we paying to much for brand and novelty, instead of simple well built trail runners?
Same here, I hiked for 400km on pretty rough, rocky and wet terrain on Evadict MT Cushion from Decathlon. Great grip, comfortable cushioning, wide toe box, 4mm drop and show very little wear after this hike. Only drawback is that they do not dry very quickly.
I hiked the Colorado Trail in Olympus 4’s this summer. The upper started to split where it bends on both feet by the end but the shoes were just incredible to walk in. I had absolutely no foot problems- no pain, no hotspots, no blisters. Also, the shoes were wonderfully ‘grippy’ throughout which gave me a lot of confidence when carrying a pack on steep downhills. For me - they were just fabulous.
I have the Olympus trail running shoe. I have 550 miles on them and they still look great. No tears on the mesh. Probably need to buy new ones in the next 100 miles or so. I love them!!
@@DanielOutdoors if you like the lone peaks then the ultraventures would be the better shoe for you. Terraventures are closer to the altra superiors. Altras aren't horrible just not very durable and overpriced imo.
@@tamie341 Problem with the Terraventure 2 for me was several things saddly and it made it a terrible transition from hiking boot. I tried the Terraventure 2 for one year. The traction is not good compared to Lone Peak 5, the toe box is smaller, the mesh tears fast and the shoe get pretty easily wet compare to the Lone Peak 5. The ventilation also works better on Lone Peak 5, its lighter, cushining feels softer and better, the tie cord stays on better, the gaiters docent slips on lone peak 5 and its a cheaper shoe. I made a video on this too
I am 72 years old and have just completed the 800kms of the Camino de Santiago Frances route in 30 days carrying a 20lb pack. I have booked my flight to Lisbon for the 5th of May 2022 so as to walk the Camino Portuguese. Next month I am walking the Caledonian Way.
Wow, that's a bummer, I owned several Altras (Lone Peak 3.5, 4, 5 and Timp) and didn't have much problems with the upper, still there were durability issues with the cushioning. I loved Topo Athletics as an alternative because of their similar approach (wide toebox, little drop), but they are hard to get in Germany. I recently bought the Lone Peak 5 because I heard about the durability issues being fixed (Ego midsole, better attachment of the sole to the shoe) and so far they are doing good (about 200km of hiking on rough terrain). Maybe check out the Topo Ultraventure, I heard lots of great things about them and I used a similar shoe called the Terraventure for quite a while and really liked them. Doesn't seem realistic, that the Olympus will hold up well enough to consider taking them on a long throughhike,...
I’ve gotten a consistent 500-600 miles on the Olympus 4 shoes. On rugged granite scrambles and trails over sharp rocks and through water they take more of a beating and need changing sooner. For me comfort is king so I just plan on changing the shoes at least every 500 miles. I need the width and zero drop so they are the only shoe for me. I love them.
Nice review! I have three pairs of these, and thus far, I have put on around 600km on my first pair, and the upper is now only starting to wear through. The second pair have around 150km on them, and have zero wear and tear, so for me, the durability is fantastic. Like you mentioned in your review, these are also the perfect shoe for me, so I will continue to stock up on them when I can until such time they release a newer version.
I've been wearing the Lone Peak 4.5 and now the 5s. I ordered the Olympus 4 but they're a touch too narrow for my wide foot especially after a day of hiking. I hoping to find a them in wide and then I'll definitely get a pair for my 2022 A.T. hike. Love your videos!
Maybe Joe Nimble shoes are a good follow up if those don't last. They have a trailrunning shoe with a roomy footbox and also zero drop. But they are even more expensive
Interesting review! Some month ago I was looking for a trailrunner for hiking, trail and park running. I choose a Dynafit Ultra100, had to take it one size bigger than usual, but I'm very happy with it after 200 km. Can wear it 12h and more a day without problems. Drop is 6mm, it has Pocoma instead of Vibram which has a slightly reduced grip on wet rocks but very little abraison compared to the Megagrip. Comfort is absolutely great and its not so expensive cause its on sale very often.
Another great vid from you. Interesting the idea of "working up to" zero drop. I picked up Altra Lone Peaks a few years ago, when I was 62 or 63 (I don't have meaty feet) and went straight to hiking ten miles and a few thousand vertical feet in them. They felt great (although I do tend to catch the wide toe box on rocks more than in any shoe I've had, causing me to trip, especially when fatigued). No adjustment time needed, but I guess we're all different. (I had been hiking in Merrell Moabs, which are fine but, to me, heavy, and the weight seems to wear on my feet.) The Altras wore out after a few hundred miles. (Same wear pattern as yours; Shoe Goo here too). If Altra wants to be a leader in through hiking footwear for the long term, they're going to need to up their durability game. I found a pair of virtually brand new Lone Peak 4.5s for $40 on the REI used rack and have them stored in the closet for later. I'm currently using Salomon Odysseys Triple Crowns (8 mm drop), and I really don't notice a difference. At least, I don't think I do. But because shoes are so different from each other, it's hard to know. We'll see on a five-day trip culminating in Mt. Whitney this summer. After 10 or 12 miles in the Altras with a pack, my feet felt truly great. We'll see if the Odysseys match that. Tall order.
I have a 2E Wide foot but not a beefy foot. They are wide and flat and with a normal heel. But because my foot isn't wide in the way of beefy, which means most dedicated Wide shoes have too much volume. Which is why I thought I could eventually try the Altras, as they are normal in volume but still have the wide toebox. I had Merrell Adventure Waterproof but they didn't work out. I discovered if you're getting hiking footwear, do not get a shoe, get a boot, and if it is a boot, don't get a cheaper boot like the Merrell Moabs. If getting a hiking boot you need to spend at least 300 USD. Anyway I'm going to try sticking to trail runners from now on. I also prefer zero drop, as well as no arch support, I wish it were otherwise as there would be more options, but that is just how I feel while wearing shoes. I just bought a pair of Salcony Peregrine 12 - Wide. They seem to have a bit too much volume so I might try thick socks to fill them out a bit. They were really only only option if trying shoes instore. But next time I might order online and get some Altras or something so I can get the qualities I'm after.
Nice! I just picked up Timp 1.5s and Lone Peak 4.0s for a combine total of 3600 baht (~$110 USD). Getting slightly older models on clearance is the way to go!
Got my olympus 4 from an outlet someone returned them after hiking in them in some red dirt but I paid $60 and the treads looks brand new!! Blew them off with an air hose can’t even tell
I just got a pair last week! On sale too! Did one 4 mile hike and was a bit surprised I had some foot ache afterwards. At least now I know why. They did feel amazing on sharp rocks. I will be keeping track of my miles on them!
I switched to Topo Athletic and I’ll probably never go back. For my foot, the Topos are noticeably more comfortable and more durable. They also have the wide toe box and zero drop.
I have run and hiked in many Altras and all have worn out prematurely unfortunately. Have switch to Topo and they last me about double the distance to Altras. they have models with 0 drop as well as up to 5 mm
The black part of the sole is not vibram. It's Altra's midsole material. My Olympus 4 got a lot of thorns stuck into the black part when I ran through a rough section of trail.
Hey Thanks I also have been hiking with the loanpeaks and the timps with the same results but the superior 5 seem to be holding up they are the ones for me but nevertheless great video and info brother keep on humping
Old trail runner getting back into what I call hogging, a combination of jogging and hiking. Long time ago I was a trailer runner, more recently mountain biker. Couple crashes as I'm getting older on my mountain bike are making me rethink that. Fabulous review, I'm going to try some Hoka Torrent 2s for sure. They feel similar in the store, but they're a lot cheaper and have a 5 for a drop. I'm going to try the new balance at some point but I can't even find them in stock anywhere except in a bright red:-)
I love my pair. First pair of shoes that don't cause my little toes to squish and hurt. Didn't have any problem with the zero drop. Only complaint is they aren't rugged enough for desert hiking. They are awesome going down steep gravel areas. Haven't slid once.
Wow man that’s crazy. You can see straight through the upper in parts of your video as well. It looks super thin. I’d like to see the Olympus in person. I’m still rocking the Timp 2 atm.
Hi Chase. Great review as always. I'm not a fan of Ultra durability, but that said, they are not hiking shoes. Maybe check out Ecco hiking shoes. Expensive but very durable. They go 5 times further than Ultras and are relatively light and uber comfortable. Specifically check out Ecco Biom C-Trails.
I recently bought the lonepeaks 5 and the confort is amazing. But I feel that they won't last as long as my previous salomon xa lite which I have used for the GR11 and many more shorter hikes (they are quite dead now but served me well for more than 1500km). Your video confirms my feelings, but we'll see what will happen on the montain :p Maybe Altras are just luxury shoes in which you feel great but need to change every couple hundreds kms xD Cheers
I've had that problem a lot with my Asics running shoes in black that I wear to work. Tearing out different spots, but I find that duct tape on the inside occasionally redone, works great
Thanks for the review! Have you heard of Topo Athletic shoes? They also do wide-footbox, low drop (3 or 5mm, not zero unfortunately) shoes, vibram outsole, some have a rock plate, and have a better reputation than Altra for durability... I've had the Terraventure 2 for two/three years and have been very happy with them!
I’ve been looking at the Topo Terraventure 2 also! They are more that $100 AUD cheaper than the Altra Olympus 4’s, and they weigh 306 grams (almost 50gs lighter) - and they have what they call a “Flexible ESS rock plate“.
Topos get those tears as well. It seems that it depends on the trail how soon they show up. I've had 8 pair of Lone Peaks and if I'm in the sierras they tear fairly early but in the forest of Norther CA and Oregon they last longer so I think I'm just kicking rocks with the side of the shoe. Ive had 700 miles in one pair of Lone Peaks and only 350 in another and everything in between. The rockier the trail the shorter the life.
Love your vids. I don't hike nearly as much as I used to and was just starting to switch lighter trail runners and for more casual dayhikes these days I'm using really minimal zero-drop runners (I've lived in barefoot shoes for about 8 years now) .... But I have to take pause (cuz I'd considered Altras a couple times) and think back to when I'd (we'd) hike in boots, of varying degrees of toughness/support/breathability etc.... Back then I always preferred a good pack/trail boot, usually leather for the main reason that a boot would become one with your foot and you were buying quality (welted sole construction) that'd last for many seasons on seasons of use. There sure are huge benefits to the minimal footwear so many prefer nowadays (myself included to a large extent) but hiking footwear is now bought for a season, sometimes a bit more and often even less.... A bit of throwaway culture wiggling it's way into what once used to all about durability. Whatever company can crack the durability/stability/groundfeel code is going to sell a lot of shoes.
When you used leather hiking boots, did you get them with the waterproof Goretex lining? Also, how do they go in warm-weather hiking with the breathability issue? Ok?
@@alantaylor6691 Wow I barely remember typing the above. :) Honestly in 30 years I only ever had 3 pairs of boots long-term (which is part of what I'm on about). I had 2 or 3 others short-term, synthetic types - more breathable - never lasted more than 2 years or so. The first *real* pair was an old pair of original White's that were my dads (but not packed in much when I got them). All leather construction, traditional logger style boot. They were hot but consdiering how thick and long they lasted, they breathed reasonably well. The second I can't remember the brand - may have been Timberland - all leather outer and upper - it did have goretex if I remember correctly. They did not breath so well but were warmer and comfortable. The last pair I bought in late 2013, Zamberlan 1025 Tofane - best boot I ever had. But they've got less than probably 200k on them cuz I started transitioning around that time. They breathed very well for what they are - best of both worlds. Heavy though. In hot weather they're warm for sure. Just something you get used to. Nowadays though, I'd only choose them if I needed to pack a lot of weight, which very rare for me now.
@@therealchickentender Yeah I only do light day hiking myself. I got a pair of Merrel Adventures with waterproof lining SHOES (not boots) and it turned out a bit fail for a couple of reasons. They were nutbuk leather uppers, but with some spaces for water to get in. Anyway they were fine with the heat. But I've heard that if you get the leather without the waterproofing that this is more breathable. And you don't even need the waterproofing if your leather care regime is meticulous, the leather will be 100% waterproof if your metculous in the leather care. And not need for the waterproof lining. But yeah it's better to go as minimal as possible I supposed, although as you say, the leather boots last longer so probably end up more affordable. But for a couple of reasons I learnt that you don't get cheaper hiking boots, you have to spend at least 300 USD/400 Australian if you're getting hiking boots. So the initial outlay is a lot, but it works out cheaper in the long run if you look after the leather. One problem with cheaper hiking boots is the waterproof lining rubs away too quick, plus they don't tend to have uppers that keep dirt and debris out, which means that the dirt and debris gets in and rubs away the waterproof lining. For example those Merrel Moab hiking boots that have waterproof lining but with mess upper? That's dumb, because all sorts of crap gets in past the mesh and it then starts wearing away the waterproof lining. As well, with the cheaper boots they don't glue the lining on in a way that makes it last.
@@alantaylor6691 All true. Everything you said. IMO if you're going to get a boot, get a real, quality made boot, preferably one that can be resoled. Zamberlan are astounding in their quality. I actually have a pair of Vivobarefoot "Tracker Forest Esc" (not resoleable, but a barefoot style heavy duty trekking boot - other end of the spetrum) that I think I'll love but I've had to be off my feet for several months (long story) - full grain leather upper throughout, really agressive lugs, but amazing ground-feel (zero drop, flexible). Have only had them on a few trail walks and love them so far. I have other Vivobarefoots boots n shoes and they're mostly all I wear these days.
I wear Altra Escalante 2.0s for work as a CNA, which have a stack height of 24mm, and I feel they are "too cushiony"... So I'm going to try out some LEMS Chillums going into the new year 🤞🤞 Keep in mind that I am +60lbs (+25kilos) overweight. I can't imagine 33mm 😳
I have a pair, 3 years old? Durable enough, but the heal bed was like a semi circle and the most uncomfortable thing that I’ve ever experienced. I solved it however but putting hiking specific “supper feet” innersoles in the shoes. I wouldn’t buy them again, too much cushioning at 31mm. I find them unstable because of the height and far from nimble because of the massive wide and high chunk under my feet. 20-25mm is ideal for me so I would, despite durability issues, go for another Altra.
I got 230 (ish) miles on a pair of Olympus 4s before the midsole was pancaked. The Ego foam is not as good as the new Quantic midsoles. I loved the shoe up until they just didn't bounce back...literally. But that was on the Florida Trail and it's dreaded road walks...back on trail they were still alright to use, but on any harder surface they just weren't worth it. On the other hand, the Timp 3 was fantastic as I had one pair go 480+ miles and another do 260+. The problem that everyone is having with the Timps is the overlay pealing off...and that did start to happen, but it didn't affect performance on the trail. Also...that's after dragging them through stuff like Bradwell Bay. I'm hoping the next Olympus will upgrade the midsole foam, till then I'm staying with the Timp 3.
Great review .... on the Olympus 4..... I have been wearing Altra Lonepeak 4's for many years nd love the Lonepeak but after talking to other pro runners they moved to the Olympus 5..... mind you a few have had issues with the 5..... ie Sole falls off.... just wondering if you have had any sole issues with the Olympus 4 / 5
Ha, ha, ha my blue Altras are there. I’ve just finished my 500km thru-hike and can concur with Chase, great shoes for hiking even in more technical terrain but the upper mesh is ripping. I will go back with them to the shop and ask for replacement or refund. Other than that I love Altras!!!
Thanks Chase. I use Ultra 4.5 and I love them but on steep hills my toes jam forward and I get blisters under 2 toenails. I will try these because of that white piece that ties into the heel. That may stop my feet from sliding. I also wear the Injiji toe socks now and no more toenail blisters. Thanks.
Durability is an issue with all Altras, even though they seem to be getting better with each new shoe, I wear Lone Peaks for daily walks and love them, I walk about 40kms per week and have never got a niggle of a pain or injury.
I’ve just bought these a couple of days ago. Those durability issues are very concerning which is a shame. I am using mine as a transitioning shoe as I want to convert to zero drop. Have you ever considered doing a video on how to transition effectively? That would be really helpful. I’m starting with 3 miles a day in them and that seems to be fine. Don’t want to push my luck to soon though!
Hi Chase, I do my running and hiking in shoes from British company Inov8. For many years and I’m pretty happy with them. Did you have a chance to try these? Cheers, Jaroslav
I'm opting for the Topo Athletics Ultraventer Pro's for this coming summer season, it has all the features you touched on including a rockplate, but has a slight drop. Trekinn has a good selection. I personally don't like wide heel sole portions, the Hoka Speedgoat is a another example of that.
@@ChaseMountains I'm waiting on Dixie's feedback, she's tried them (and switched back to LonePeak5 mid-way on Florida Trail, could just be for dry time reason considering the swamps)
Have hiked in the altra lonepeak before. Found out they are not durable and I even had to tape the upper together (even though i was only doing a 100mile hike). For this years thru-hike i am trying the brooks cascadia 15 and eventhough they are not 0 drop they seem to be excellent and very durable :) I work in a running store and these felt far superiour to the other shoes, especially for hiking!
I am still using my Olympus 3,5 and been completely satisfied, a new model by Altra, called Alpine is what I am looking for, but I can not find any reviews on it
I wear the Altra Timp 1.5. It has zero lift and the widest toe box in the Altra line. How would you compare the two? I also use their gator too. I like the zero lift because it is easier on my achilles. I also love the sole design! I grips when you need it. Your foot print is wider and because of that your weight is better distributed overall. Whether carrying a pack or not!
Mine is coming apart not even 300km in. Strictly used for trail running. Super slippery and wanting to change to something different. Only good thing was foot comfort on longer 30k runs
Just bought these for Camino del Norte 860km. I too have doubts about the durability. My Lone Peak 6 started delaminating and uppers on both feet started splitting after only 100km of street and light trail use. Also they are the AllWeather shoe, which soaked through in light rain. After sales is also terrible, I’ve been waiting 2 weeks for the Lone Peak to be assessed for possible replacement. Altra need to work on making a more durable shoe, and not rely on 2 basic features zero drop, and natural foot shape. Also IMO they have the worse design and colour range out of all the sports shoe brands, truly horrible
I have previously tried altra's but only lasted a few km's. Poor construction. I now use Asics trail runners in 4E width, a nice balance of wide toe box and quality construction.
Your issues are my issues with every pair of Altra I've owned and then some. It's too bad because they are super great for the first hundred miles then it's game over. That's my experience.
Was just looking at this issue with my Lone Peaks and am thinking that if it came to it it might be possible to get a hypalon patch kit normally used for dingies. Crazy maybe but worth a try?
its a shoe for trail running, more specifically ultra trail running - that is over marathon distance... it will not last longer than a few hundred miles. for walking it would last long i guess. but u don't need ultramarathon running shoes to hike.... omg. people use sandals summertime here.
when textiles would give way in my work clothes as a carpenter (typically in the knees and front thighs), I would find some Gorilla Glue and rub it into the wearing fibers. Problem solved. It looked like hell, but the glued surfaces held together for EVER. Something about urethane adhesives, I guess.
That's unfortunate. I have around 1000km on mine since late last august. And besides being dirty and the lugs being worn down from winter running, they look brand new. Recently picked up the lone peak 5 and they have been fantastic so far. Around 300km on those now
I just ordered a pair of these and and the Lone Peak 6 to try out. As with you, these would be the ideal with that extra cushion (and lets be honest, nicer looks), but the Lone Peaks for sure look stronger. It's an easy fix with a couple of material upgrades...maybe bring that rip-stop over from the LP6. Call it the Olympus Hike. Wouldn't surprise me if they have a high cushion hiker on the way tbh.
I’ve just ordered the scarpa raid approach shoes with vibram megagrip sole and a rock plate,I tried my hoka torrent 1 and although initially comfortable after 3 days on mixed mountain terrain they just did not have the durability and protection for me specifically in the toe box.
Great video. Walking the Camino de Frances September 15th 2020. 500 plus miles. Will this shoe last? cushioning...and mesh exterior have been cited as possible issues. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing Chase, couple of months ago I got lone peak 4 rsm, Beside daily use, I just did over 100km, four day hike in Carpathians and they performed great, especially with snow and frequent raining. I was thinking about getting something for hot days without membrane, particularly olympus 4 because I heard they have amazing cushion but now I guess I will wait and think it over, perhaps...lone peak 5?
I have the exact same shoe. I use it for trail running, 120 km so far they are perfect and intact. My Lone Peak 4.5 and 5 lasted me over 1200 km till the first little hole appeared.
That's crazy. I went through 5 pair of Altra in 2 years. Every pair I owned completely fell apart starting around the 100 mile mark. Tread, upper, lasts, and pack out. I'm 6'0, 170lb, proper running form, a number of ultras. I'm no slouch....I don't trust the company unfortunately. I wish they worked for me because that first hundred miles they're great shoes!!
Hi Chase thx for the video. I have been struggling with a Morten’s Neuroma injury but the only shoes I’ve been able to wear this year is Altra’s and I’ve got a pair or Paradigm 6 and have even started to hike in them to but now it seems I might be able to start running again but my budget don’t aloud me to buy boots and running shoes. Now I was wondering what you think about the MONT BLANC Man. I mean they are kind of light :) and have in my opinion a better soul than the Olympus 4 as it hasn’t got that exposed foam soul and they water resistant. I think they might make a good running/hiking shoe what do you think. And thx appreciate your opinion
I find that I get high wear on the inside heel area. Have you had this problem and any suggestions on how to repair it to maximize the use of my shoes. Thanks for the videos.
I am interested. How is it with these not being waterproof? If you step in puddles when you are hiking or have to cross a river would they just dry up again or if you are travelling and hiking for weeks on end are you better off going for a fully waterproof boot like GORE-TEX?
Absolutely I hate wet feet. I have two year old Gore-Tex hokas That take on just a little bit of water from the toenail puncher But still highly water resistant
@@ChaseMountains ive put 300K on my lone peak 5 and they are starting to die ,amazing shoe but yeah I think your right .What would you recommend as I'm looking ?
@@christopherrowbottom7489 might be time to trying Topo Athletics? Dixie from Homemade Wanderlust were trying them during Florida Trail but switched to LonePeak5 recently, waiting on her feedback as to why. My guess is : Topo dries slower than Altra (due to more spongy cushion tissue) and she was walki- Swimming through that trail so she prefered the dry time of Altra?
I just put 500 miles on my Lone Peak 5’s on the Arizona Trail. Toe cap stitching held up great, and only a small hole in the mesh. The AZT is a rough, rocky trail, but truly amazing!!!
I’ve got nearly 500km in mine and don’t have any damage to the upper!! Also I have lone peak 5 which has a rock plate but only 21mm stack! If I was hiking I would stick to the Olympus 👍👍
Hey. Interesting hearing your thoughts on choosing a shoe for the HRP. I remember at one point you were keen on Vivo barefoot - why did you decide against them for this?
Just guessing but Vivo have almost no midsole comfort/support/protection. You're literally walking on the sole of the shoe. For the length of the hike you'd have to already be very well conditioned to use a shoe/boot like that. Just third person observations as well but he'd probably cut the soles to shreds on a hike consisting of so much rock. They also lack a toe cap and wont breath nearly as well as a shoe with a mesh upper.
@@natea1042 Yeah I use the trainers day-to-day and used the boots for some hiking in the winter. I agree the boots don't breath well but why would they get shredded on the rock?
Did you consider Hoka Speedgoat 4? I realize that they’re not zero drop but hey’re available in wide, which I’ve used everyday in all conditions for the last year. I probably have 500+km on them and other than the sole showing some wear they look nearly new! I bet the uppers would be hard to cut even with a knife. No Altras fit my wide foot but after seeing countless examples of their poor durability I’m glad I’ve never bought a pair.
Hoka torrent here 1st edition under 100€,very comfortable,I’ve not used them for hiking yet only trail running but will be using them as an approach shoe for upcoming Mt Blanc trip.
At 76 I’m not about to undertake an 800km hike. Nonetheless, your videos appeal to the 19 year old dreamer buried inside me!
Why give up at a mere 76....a man 100 years old completed the Camino Frances 14 years ago, I am 72 and have no intention of giving up ever.
I wear ALtra Olympus 4 and trail hike at 77. I find the Olympus original width encourages foot/toe strength but ALtra wear out faster. I stopped wearing Lone Peak 6 when the total heel area fell apart
To be fair, as someone who has worked in running specialty for twenty years of my life, the shoes at the end of the day are trail runners, running shoes. Running shoes typically have a 300-500 mile life span. And that will vary on user, their size, their form, and the surfaces they are on. It’s safe to say that most shoes will last longer than that, but you won’t be getting what they originally were offering in terms of support and cushion. When folks would return a pair of shoes to me after hundreds of miles with some tear in the mesh where their toenail kept popping up, I would return it and give them a new pair, but with the reminder that this would likely happen again, the shoe isn’t designed to do more than what it did. Sure you could add stronger overlays, but overlays add weight, they reduce flexibility and they heighten the chance of blisters and rubbing. Just some thought :) also! If you rotate shoes every other day, both will last longer. EVA and cushioning materials need a chance to “ bounce back”.
Most sensible comment on You Tube. 😐
Yeah but for this price they shouldn't come unglued and blow out and lose tread at the 100 mile mark. I've been running mountains and front range trails in Colorado for a long time. Handful of ultras. Proper running form. I clean my shoes and take care of them. I've never worn such a disappointing shoe as Altra. They feel amazing until about 100 miles then they literally fall apart piece by piece with every run after that. The tread does not last and they pack out to the point where they have about as much cushion as the old NB Minimus. Remember those?
For me anyway the only shoes that hold up and last are Sportiva and Salomon.
Altra needs to step up their engineering and lower the cost. It seems like they sell a lot of hype.
He said the hole came after 50 km not hundreds
I had a pair of Teva hiking shoes awhile back where the upper mesh was made of Kevlar. I wore out the soles long before the mesh would ever give.
It's total bs that companies couldn't make their shoes more durable
I think we are going pretty overboard when excusing lack of quality for less weight. I mean let's be real lol how much weight do overlays add?? Is it even measurable? I'm 6'0 and 170lbs. I'm 44 and have been a runner since I was in middle school in the late 80s and running in CO for well over a decade. Tough terrain but for me it's just no excuse that Altra shoes fall apart on me around 100 miles or so. I've worn Sportiva's mutant shoe for two full seasons and not one single tear in mesh or anything coming unglued. The tread lasts longer than any other shoe I've owned. Just my opinion but I think Altra is great at marketing an idea and a philosophy and not so much at building a shoe that's withstood the test of time on trails. Again just my opinion and experience. I see a lot of Altra in ultras so I'll give them that.
My Olympus 4's have lasted nicely. Fastpacking and trail ultrarunning. I've been on trails all over Finland, Italian Dolomites and Lapland. The first pair has 900km and just a small hole on top. And the second has 300km and good as new. Very happy
yea, I dont know why this guy has issues with them. it seems like you can be unlucky and kick a branch or something that creates a start for the mesh to deteriorate. I dont have personal experience with olympus, but I have used the lone peaks for quite some time
I have know 250 miles in my Altra Olympus 4 and they look perfect from the top.
One year ago I watched your and lots of other videos about this shoe and I was sceptical if they can hold long. That's the reason why I count the miles I wear them. They have not one hole in it. I use them for running and hiking and they look just like new.
As you can see there are people with maybe a more gently walking and running style and these people have no issues.
I've got also the Altra Escalante Racer and they look perfect from the top too. And I have over 400 miles in them.
I have these shoes for two years now and I am very happy with them. I switched to them after I was diagnosed a problem with my hip, for therapy a began to walk and jogging on trails in the woods. I was comfortable from the beginning, it was a completley different experience from the start because of the foot shape. The zero base was something to get used to, but once you have it will make a very positive difference. Walking and light jogging in uneaven terrain never felt better, I do not use other shoes ever since. And my pair did not desintegrate, they look really ok after 2 years of use 2 to 3 sessions a week. But I am just an average user, not really hardcore, but a lot of distance is made cross country with sticks and wet stones and I never had such good grip in wet and muddy conditions with any other shoes, not even hiking boots. I like the regular non Goretex version, because if you get wet or damp feet the dry very quick and in hot conditions you stay much cooler, where as the Goretex heat up and are not as breathable, plus they are heavier. So I will use them more, I even ordered a pair of Olympus 5s - because the sole of my 4s will not last another year I guess, but they have made more miles than any of my other shoes - because I used them so much. My hip and knees recovered well so it was a success for me. I hope this helps..... Ah and just to say I am from Switzerland and the hiking was done in the Alps so you can consider that difficult terrain I guess 😉 and I do not use hiking boots if possible but that is a perference
Nice video! I love altra shoes and these are no exception. I have run 200 miles in my Olympus 4 and no holes in the mesh at all. It actually holds up very well. Even the Timp 2 which several complain about durability i've reached at least 300 miles in with no mesh breakdown. Just outsole wear which is to be expected. Good luck on your through hike! 💥👊🤠
So you are lucky. I have my pair of Olympus4 just for 3 months with 108km on the counter and the mesh started breaking. Bought them for race in May and August but can’t imagine this😡
@@KrzysztofKorba Sorry to hear that man. I got 350 miles now and mesh is doing great still. Outsole is quite chewed up though but still grippy 👍
I hiked 1800 miles in Brooks Cascadia 13’s which have a rock plate. I have hiked countless miles in Altra Lone Peaks. For someone my age the zero drop was a concern, but I have not had any issues with my Achilles. As for durability I change shoes every 400 miles, so most of my shoes do not have any issues. The tears in the sides usually come from placing my foot in between two rocks. I am currently wearing Altra Superior’s which come with a rock plate insert which you place under the insole. Thank you for all the great videos! Happy Hiking!
I love my olympus 4, helps alot with my bad knees.
Great review. I've been hiking in Lone Peaks for about 5 years without any big issues. Then last year bought the Altra Superior (even less cushioning) for running. But since then I've been having some knee/hamstring issues. Have recently purchased these Olympus for the fact they have more cushioning, as well as a pair of NB Hierro V6 Xwides, and a wide model of the Hoka Speedgoat 4s, so actually bringing some drop back into my shoes and change things up to see if that will help my knee/hamstring problems. Will still go to Lone Peaks (or maybe the Olympus) for hiking.
Did you get the Olympus? How was it compared t
Lone peaks?
Love Altras and their zero drop. Been hiking in the Timps and Lonepeaks the past 3 years and can't imagine using another brand.
Good honest review. Sick of expensive trail shoes, I decided almost a year ago to buy decathlon trail running shoes : kiprun trail race 4. I believe that this specific model isn't produced anymore, but the principle still applies. In my opinion is very simple: after using it in both trail running and hiking over hundreds of kilometers, they have never failed me. No blisters, no slippage, no breakage. The best thing I can say about a piece of gear is, it just works. It cost me, at the time, 60 eur. Being one of the most expensive models from decathlon, but very cheap compared with most brands. Aren't we paying to much for brand and novelty, instead of simple well built trail runners?
Absolutely. I thought about getting a pair to test out. So many times the gear from big brands has been outclassed by Decathlon.
Same here, I hiked for 400km on pretty rough, rocky and wet terrain on Evadict MT Cushion from Decathlon. Great grip, comfortable cushioning, wide toe box, 4mm drop and show very little wear after this hike. Only drawback is that they do not dry very quickly.
I hiked the Colorado Trail in Olympus 4’s this summer. The upper started to split where it bends on both feet by the end but the shoes were just incredible to walk in. I had absolutely no foot problems- no pain, no hotspots, no blisters. Also, the shoes were wonderfully ‘grippy’ throughout which gave me a lot of confidence when carrying a pack on steep downhills. For me - they were just fabulous.
I have the Olympus trail running shoe. I have 550 miles on them and they still look great. No tears on the mesh. Probably need to buy new ones in the next 100 miles or so. I love them!!
I was considering buying these but then I steered towards the lesser-known Topo Ultraventure and I'm really happy with my choice.
Topo's are easily better than Altras, just don't have the sane hype behind them
@@tamie341 I couldn't agree more!
I hate the topos Terraventure 2, Lone Peak 5 for the win.
@@DanielOutdoors if you like the lone peaks then the ultraventures would be the better shoe for you. Terraventures are closer to the altra superiors. Altras aren't horrible just not very durable and overpriced imo.
@@tamie341 Problem with the Terraventure 2 for me was several things saddly and it made it a terrible transition from hiking boot. I tried the Terraventure 2 for one year. The traction is not good compared to Lone Peak 5, the toe box is smaller, the mesh tears fast and the shoe get pretty easily wet compare to the Lone Peak 5. The ventilation also works better on Lone Peak 5, its lighter, cushining feels softer and better, the tie cord stays on better, the gaiters docent slips on lone peak 5 and its a cheaper shoe. I made a video on this too
I am 72 years old and have just completed the 800kms of the Camino de Santiago Frances route in 30 days carrying a 20lb pack.
I have booked my flight to Lisbon for the 5th of May 2022 so as to walk the Camino Portuguese.
Next month I am walking the Caledonian Way.
Wow, that's a bummer, I owned several Altras (Lone Peak 3.5, 4, 5 and Timp) and didn't have much problems with the upper, still there were durability issues with the cushioning. I loved Topo Athletics as an alternative because of their similar approach (wide toebox, little drop), but they are hard to get in Germany. I recently bought the Lone Peak 5 because I heard about the durability issues being fixed (Ego midsole, better attachment of the sole to the shoe) and so far they are doing good (about 200km of hiking on rough terrain). Maybe check out the Topo Ultraventure, I heard lots of great things about them and I used a similar shoe called the Terraventure for quite a while and really liked them. Doesn't seem realistic, that the Olympus will hold up well enough to consider taking them on a long throughhike,...
I’ve gotten a consistent 500-600 miles on the Olympus 4 shoes. On rugged granite scrambles and trails over sharp rocks and through water they take more of a beating and need changing sooner. For me comfort is king so I just plan on changing the shoes at least every 500 miles. I need the width and zero drop so they are the only shoe for me. I love them.
Nice review! I have three pairs of these, and thus far, I have put on around 600km on my first pair, and the upper is now only starting to wear through. The second pair have around 150km on them, and have zero wear and tear, so for me, the durability is fantastic. Like you mentioned in your review, these are also the perfect shoe for me, so I will continue to stock up on them when I can until such time they release a newer version.
I've been wearing the Lone Peak 4.5 and now the 5s. I ordered the Olympus 4 but they're a touch too narrow for my wide foot especially after a day of hiking. I hoping to find a them in wide and then I'll definitely get a pair for my 2022 A.T. hike. Love your videos!
Thanks for this video. The durability and price are concerning for these shoes. Personnally, I bought the 3.5 you can find at about 100 euros.
Love my Olympus!! Will never go back to anything else!! You rock🤘🏻
Over been considering this shoe too replace my Timp 2.0. Timely and helpful, thanks.
Maybe Joe Nimble shoes are a good follow up if those don't last. They have a trailrunning shoe with a roomy footbox and also zero drop. But they are even more expensive
Interesting review! Some month ago I was looking for a trailrunner for hiking, trail and park running. I choose a Dynafit Ultra100, had to take it one size bigger than usual, but I'm very happy with it after 200 km. Can wear it 12h and more a day without problems. Drop is 6mm, it has Pocoma instead of Vibram which has a slightly reduced grip on wet rocks but very little abraison compared to the Megagrip. Comfort is absolutely great and its not so expensive cause its on sale very often.
I had a pair of dynafit a while back and they where great!
Another great vid from you. Interesting the idea of "working up to" zero drop. I picked up Altra Lone Peaks a few years ago, when I was 62 or 63 (I don't have meaty feet) and went straight to hiking ten miles and a few thousand vertical feet in them. They felt great (although I do tend to catch the wide toe box on rocks more than in any shoe I've had, causing me to trip, especially when fatigued). No adjustment time needed, but I guess we're all different. (I had been hiking in Merrell Moabs, which are fine but, to me, heavy, and the weight seems to wear on my feet.) The Altras wore out after a few hundred miles. (Same wear pattern as yours; Shoe Goo here too). If Altra wants to be a leader in through hiking footwear for the long term, they're going to need to up their durability game. I found a pair of virtually brand new Lone Peak 4.5s for $40 on the REI used rack and have them stored in the closet for later. I'm currently using Salomon Odysseys Triple Crowns (8 mm drop), and I really don't notice a difference. At least, I don't think I do. But because shoes are so different from each other, it's hard to know. We'll see on a five-day trip culminating in Mt. Whitney this summer. After 10 or 12 miles in the Altras with a pack, my feet felt truly great. We'll see if the Odysseys match that. Tall order.
I have a 2E Wide foot but not a beefy foot. They are wide and flat and with a normal heel. But because my foot isn't wide in the way of beefy, which means most dedicated Wide shoes have too much volume. Which is why I thought I could eventually try the Altras, as they are normal in volume but still have the wide toebox.
I had Merrell Adventure Waterproof but they didn't work out. I discovered if you're getting hiking footwear, do not get a shoe, get a boot, and if it is a boot, don't get a cheaper boot like the Merrell Moabs. If getting a hiking boot you need to spend at least 300 USD. Anyway I'm going to try sticking to trail runners from now on.
I also prefer zero drop, as well as no arch support, I wish it were otherwise as there would be more options, but that is just how I feel while wearing shoes. I just bought a pair of Salcony Peregrine 12 - Wide. They seem to have a bit too much volume so I might try thick socks to fill them out a bit. They were really only only option if trying shoes instore. But next time I might order online and get some Altras or something so I can get the qualities I'm after.
I love altras, and I can always find a great discount by hunting older models in weird colors. I've never spent more than a hundred bucks that way.
good strategy! I try to do the same but there isn't a big second-hand market here unfortunately :/
Nice! I just picked up Timp 1.5s and Lone Peak 4.0s for a combine total of 3600 baht (~$110 USD). Getting slightly older models on clearance is the way to go!
Got my olympus 4 from an outlet someone returned them after hiking in them in some red dirt but I paid $60 and the treads looks brand new!! Blew them off with an air hose can’t even tell
I just got a pair last week! On sale too! Did one 4 mile hike and was a bit surprised I had some foot ache afterwards. At least now I know why. They did feel amazing on sharp rocks. I will be keeping track of my miles on them!
Sounds like your feet just might not have been used to the minimalist aspect. How has that ended up?
@@alantaylor6691 They took some getting used to, but wasnt as bad for me as some others as I do walk around barefoot a lot. I really like them a lot.
I switched to Topo Athletic and I’ll probably never go back. For my foot, the Topos are noticeably more comfortable and more durable. They also have the wide toe box and zero drop.
Much more durable as well
I have run and hiked in many Altras and all have worn out prematurely unfortunately. Have switch to Topo and they last me about double the distance to Altras. they have models with 0 drop as well as up to 5 mm
The black part of the sole is not vibram. It's Altra's midsole material.
My Olympus 4 got a lot of thorns stuck into the black part when I ran through a rough section of trail.
Hey Thanks I also have been hiking with the loanpeaks and the timps with the same results but the superior 5 seem to be holding up they are the ones for me but nevertheless great video and info brother keep on humping
Old trail runner getting back into what I call hogging, a combination of jogging and hiking. Long time ago I was a trailer runner, more recently mountain biker. Couple crashes as I'm getting older on my mountain bike are making me rethink that. Fabulous review, I'm going to try some Hoka Torrent 2s for sure. They feel similar in the store, but they're a lot cheaper and have a 5 for a drop. I'm going to try the new balance at some point but I can't even find them in stock anywhere except in a bright red:-)
"Hogging" haha. Sounds like pig hunting.
I love my pair. First pair of shoes that don't cause my little toes to squish and hurt. Didn't have any problem with the zero drop. Only complaint is they aren't rugged enough for desert hiking. They are awesome going down steep gravel areas. Haven't slid once.
Impossible shoe makes a light weight safety shoe with a breathable mesh made of kevlar. I think Kevlar is the perfect fix for this.
Wow man that’s crazy. You can see straight through the upper in parts of your video as well. It looks super thin. I’d like to see the Olympus in person. I’m still rocking the Timp 2 atm.
It's a problem with all the Altra shoes. Superiors are the best but still lacking the quality of other brands
Hi Chase. Great review as always. I'm not a fan of Ultra durability, but that said, they are not hiking shoes. Maybe check out Ecco hiking shoes. Expensive but very durable. They go 5 times further than Ultras and are relatively light and uber comfortable. Specifically check out Ecco Biom C-Trails.
I recently bought the lonepeaks 5 and the confort is amazing. But I feel that they won't last as long as my previous salomon xa lite which I have used for the GR11 and many more shorter hikes (they are quite dead now but served me well for more than 1500km). Your video confirms my feelings, but we'll see what will happen on the montain :p
Maybe Altras are just luxury shoes in which you feel great but need to change every couple hundreds kms xD
Cheers
I loved them, but they didn’t last a month. Have a pair of their road shoes and they don’t last either
I've had that problem a lot with my Asics running shoes in black that I wear to work. Tearing out different spots, but I find that duct tape on the inside occasionally redone, works great
Thanks for the review! Have you heard of Topo Athletic shoes? They also do wide-footbox, low drop (3 or 5mm, not zero unfortunately) shoes, vibram outsole, some have a rock plate, and have a better reputation than Altra for durability... I've had the Terraventure 2 for two/three years and have been very happy with them!
That sounds interesting! No I haven't heard of them!
I’ve been looking at the Topo Terraventure 2 also!
They are more that $100 AUD cheaper than the Altra Olympus 4’s, and they weigh 306 grams (almost 50gs lighter) - and they have what they call a “Flexible ESS rock plate“.
Topos get those tears as well. It seems that it depends on the trail how soon they show up. I've had 8 pair of Lone Peaks and if I'm in the sierras they tear fairly early but in the forest of Norther CA and Oregon they last longer so I think I'm just kicking rocks with the side of the shoe. Ive had 700 miles in one pair of Lone Peaks and only 350 in another and everything in between. The rockier the trail the shorter the life.
Very good information, thanks
Would love to try them. But I'm loving the Salomon XT-6 so much right now
Love your vids. I don't hike nearly as much as I used to and was just starting to switch lighter trail runners and for more casual dayhikes these days I'm using really minimal zero-drop runners (I've lived in barefoot shoes for about 8 years now) .... But I have to take pause (cuz I'd considered Altras a couple times) and think back to when I'd (we'd) hike in boots, of varying degrees of toughness/support/breathability etc.... Back then I always preferred a good pack/trail boot, usually leather for the main reason that a boot would become one with your foot and you were buying quality (welted sole construction) that'd last for many seasons on seasons of use. There sure are huge benefits to the minimal footwear so many prefer nowadays (myself included to a large extent) but hiking footwear is now bought for a season, sometimes a bit more and often even less.... A bit of throwaway culture wiggling it's way into what once used to all about durability. Whatever company can crack the durability/stability/groundfeel code is going to sell a lot of shoes.
When you used leather hiking boots, did you get them with the waterproof Goretex lining? Also, how do they go in warm-weather hiking with the breathability issue? Ok?
@@alantaylor6691 Wow I barely remember typing the above. :) Honestly in 30 years I only ever had 3 pairs of boots long-term (which is part of what I'm on about). I had 2 or 3 others short-term, synthetic types - more breathable - never lasted more than 2 years or so. The first *real* pair was an old pair of original White's that were my dads (but not packed in much when I got them). All leather construction, traditional logger style boot. They were hot but consdiering how thick and long they lasted, they breathed reasonably well. The second I can't remember the brand - may have been Timberland - all leather outer and upper - it did have goretex if I remember correctly. They did not breath so well but were warmer and comfortable.
The last pair I bought in late 2013, Zamberlan 1025 Tofane - best boot I ever had. But they've got less than probably 200k on them cuz I started transitioning around that time. They breathed very well for what they are - best of both worlds. Heavy though. In hot weather they're warm for sure. Just something you get used to. Nowadays though, I'd only choose them if I needed to pack a lot of weight, which very rare for me now.
@@therealchickentender
Yeah I only do light day hiking myself. I got a pair of Merrel Adventures with waterproof lining SHOES (not boots) and it turned out a bit fail for a couple of reasons. They were nutbuk leather uppers, but with some spaces for water to get in.
Anyway they were fine with the heat. But I've heard that if you get the leather without the waterproofing that this is more breathable. And you don't even need the waterproofing if your leather care regime is meticulous, the leather will be 100% waterproof if your metculous in the leather care. And not need for the waterproof lining.
But yeah it's better to go as minimal as possible I supposed, although as you say, the leather boots last longer so probably end up more affordable.
But for a couple of reasons I learnt that you don't get cheaper hiking boots, you have to spend at least 300 USD/400 Australian if you're getting hiking boots. So the initial outlay is a lot, but it works out cheaper in the long run if you look after the leather.
One problem with cheaper hiking boots is the waterproof lining rubs away too quick, plus they don't tend to have uppers that keep dirt and debris out, which means that the dirt and debris gets in and rubs away the waterproof lining.
For example those Merrel Moab hiking boots that have waterproof lining but with mess upper? That's dumb, because all sorts of crap gets in past the mesh and it then starts wearing away the waterproof lining.
As well, with the cheaper boots they don't glue the lining on in a way that makes it last.
@@alantaylor6691 All true. Everything you said. IMO if you're going to get a boot, get a real, quality made boot, preferably one that can be resoled. Zamberlan are astounding in their quality. I actually have a pair of Vivobarefoot "Tracker Forest Esc" (not resoleable, but a barefoot style heavy duty trekking boot - other end of the spetrum) that I think I'll love but I've had to be off my feet for several months (long story) - full grain leather upper throughout, really agressive lugs, but amazing ground-feel (zero drop, flexible). Have only had them on a few trail walks and love them so far. I have other Vivobarefoots boots n shoes and they're mostly all I wear these days.
I wear Altra Escalante 2.0s for work as a CNA, which have a stack height of 24mm, and I feel they are "too cushiony"... So I'm going to try out some LEMS Chillums going into the new year 🤞🤞
Keep in mind that I am +60lbs (+25kilos) overweight.
I can't imagine 33mm 😳
I should have went for this over the lone peak, I’m realizing I need a vibram sole. The lone peaks don’t have enough grip for me.
I have a pair, 3 years old? Durable enough, but the heal bed was like a semi circle and the most uncomfortable thing that I’ve ever experienced. I solved it however but putting hiking specific “supper feet” innersoles in the shoes. I wouldn’t buy them again, too much cushioning at 31mm. I find them unstable because of the height and far from nimble because of the massive wide and high chunk under my feet. 20-25mm is ideal for me so I would, despite durability issues, go for another Altra.
I got 230 (ish) miles on a pair of Olympus 4s before the midsole was pancaked. The Ego foam is not as good as the new Quantic midsoles. I loved the shoe up until they just didn't bounce back...literally. But that was on the Florida Trail and it's dreaded road walks...back on trail they were still alright to use, but on any harder surface they just weren't worth it. On the other hand, the Timp 3 was fantastic as I had one pair go 480+ miles and another do 260+. The problem that everyone is having with the Timps is the overlay pealing off...and that did start to happen, but it didn't affect performance on the trail. Also...that's after dragging them through stuff like Bradwell Bay. I'm hoping the next Olympus will upgrade the midsole foam, till then I'm staying with the Timp 3.
Hoping the Topo MTN Racer 2’s are going to be the ones that bring durability to the Altra recipe.
I'm gonna try a pair
Great review .... on the Olympus 4..... I have been wearing Altra Lonepeak 4's for many years nd love the Lonepeak but after talking to other pro runners they moved to the Olympus 5..... mind you a few have had issues with the 5..... ie Sole falls off.... just wondering if you have had any sole issues with the Olympus 4 / 5
Great review Chase. They definitely look Thru Hike WORHTY...
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Ha, ha, ha my blue Altras are there. I’ve just finished my 500km thru-hike and can concur with Chase, great shoes for hiking even in more technical terrain but the upper mesh is ripping. I will go back with them to the shop and ask for replacement or refund. Other than that I love Altras!!!
Thanks Chase. I use Ultra 4.5 and I love them but on steep hills my toes jam forward and I get blisters under 2 toenails. I will try these because of that white piece that ties into the heel. That may stop my feet from sliding. I also wear the Injiji toe socks now and no more toenail blisters. Thanks.
Hi, great videos thanks! I couldnt quite hear which model NB you prefered though....? which shoes are you most happy with now? thanks again!
My altra outroads wore down in exactly the same spot. The altra upper just doesn't seem to be durable.
It is a great shoe. I use if for long Ultras and ruck races.
Durability is an issue with all Altras, even though they seem to be getting better with each new shoe, I wear Lone Peaks for daily walks and love them, I walk about 40kms per week and have never got a niggle of a pain or injury.
I’ve just bought these a couple of days ago. Those durability issues are very concerning which is a shame. I am using mine as a transitioning shoe as I want to convert to zero drop. Have you ever considered doing a video on how to transition effectively? That would be really helpful. I’m starting with 3 miles a day in them and that seems to be fine. Don’t want to push my luck to soon though!
Hi Chase, I do my running and hiking in shoes from British company Inov8. For many years and I’m pretty happy with them. Did you have a chance to try these? Cheers, Jaroslav
I had a similar fail on a pair of Nikes I bought for walking, blew out the top. I rarely buy Nikes but this was a (too good to be true) deal.
I'm opting for the Topo Athletics Ultraventer Pro's for this coming summer season, it has all the features you touched on including a rockplate, but has a slight drop. Trekinn has a good selection. I personally don't like wide heel sole portions, the Hoka Speedgoat is a another example of that.
Second comment already about Topos, I'll have to check them out!
@@ChaseMountains I'm waiting on Dixie's feedback, she's tried them (and switched back to LonePeak5 mid-way on Florida Trail, could just be for dry time reason considering the swamps)
Warranty claim?
Have hiked in the altra lonepeak before. Found out they are not durable and I even had to tape the upper together (even though i was only doing a 100mile hike). For this years thru-hike i am trying the brooks cascadia 15 and eventhough they are not 0 drop they seem to be excellent and very durable :) I work in a running store and these felt far superiour to the other shoes, especially for hiking!
Yeah I was looking at the cascadia maybe I should have gone down that route
@@ChaseMountains would recommend man!
Why not use something from Vivobarefoot? All of their shoes are zero drop, wide last and ultralight!
Probably a little bit thin underfoot for what I have planned
I am still using my Olympus 3,5 and been completely satisfied, a new model by Altra, called Alpine is what I am looking for, but I can not find any reviews on it
I wear the Altra Timp 1.5. It has zero lift and the widest toe box in the Altra line. How would you compare the two? I also use their gator too. I like the zero lift because it is easier on my achilles. I also love the sole design! I grips when you need it. Your foot print is wider and because of that your weight is better distributed overall. Whether carrying a pack or not!
Mine is coming apart not even 300km in. Strictly used for trail running. Super slippery and wanting to change to something different. Only good thing was foot comfort on longer 30k runs
Just bought these for Camino del Norte 860km. I too have doubts about the durability.
My Lone Peak 6 started delaminating and uppers on both feet started splitting after only 100km of street and light trail use.
Also they are the AllWeather shoe, which soaked through in light rain.
After sales is also terrible, I’ve been waiting 2 weeks for the Lone Peak to be assessed for possible replacement.
Altra need to work on making a more durable shoe, and not rely on 2 basic features zero drop, and natural foot shape.
Also IMO they have the worse design and colour range out of all the sports shoe brands, truly horrible
You can buy altras on sale, perhaps unusual colors............i like to add a heel cup..........xxx
I was more expecting some kind of barefoot shoes from ya^^
I like them
I have previously tried altra's but only lasted a few km's. Poor construction.
I now use Asics trail runners in 4E width, a nice balance of wide toe box and quality construction.
Was there a follow up video to this?
Your issues are my issues with every pair of Altra I've owned and then some. It's too bad because they are super great for the first hundred miles then it's game over. That's my experience.
Was just looking at this issue with my Lone Peaks and am thinking that if it came to it it might be possible to get a hypalon patch kit normally used for dingies. Crazy maybe but worth a try?
Dang, sorry to hear about those shoes. For that kind of money you expect not to be replacing them in a month.
Over a 1000 miles out of mine and still going
exact same for me :(. It-s been like this for years and I do not undestand why they don't fix it.
its a shoe for trail running, more specifically ultra trail running - that is over marathon distance... it will not last longer than a few hundred miles. for walking it would last long i guess. but u don't need ultramarathon running shoes to hike.... omg. people use sandals summertime here.
Thanks for the video. Would you be so kind as to explain to me the benefits of using gators? Thank you, Mark
Keeps rocks and sand out of your shoes.
when textiles would give way in my work clothes as a carpenter (typically in the knees and front thighs), I would find some Gorilla Glue and rub it into the wearing fibers. Problem solved. It looked like hell, but the glued surfaces held together for EVER. Something about urethane adhesives, I guess.
That's unfortunate. I have around 1000km on mine since late last august. And besides being dirty and the lugs being worn down from winter running, they look brand new. Recently picked up the lone peak 5 and they have been fantastic so far. Around 300km on those now
Which ones do you prefer for trail running?
Shoe update please?
Hi! I fix my trailrun shoes with dental floss. I found black one. So it sort of blends with the fabric.
The durability issue is the reason why I prefer Salomon or Adidas trail runners.
I just ordered a pair of these and and the Lone Peak 6 to try out. As with you, these would be the ideal with that extra cushion (and lets be honest, nicer looks), but the Lone Peaks for sure look stronger. It's an easy fix with a couple of material upgrades...maybe bring that rip-stop over from the LP6. Call it the Olympus Hike. Wouldn't surprise me if they have a high cushion hiker on the way tbh.
I’ve just ordered the scarpa raid approach shoes with vibram megagrip sole and a rock plate,I tried my hoka torrent 1 and although initially comfortable after 3 days on mixed mountain terrain they just did not have the durability and protection for me specifically in the toe box.
Do any of you have problems with the toes on altras getting holes way too quick?
Not yet but for sure many people have
Great video. Walking the Camino de Frances September 15th 2020. 500 plus miles. Will this shoe last? cushioning...and mesh exterior have been cited as possible issues. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing Chase, couple of months ago I got lone peak 4 rsm, Beside daily use, I just did over 100km, four day hike in Carpathians and they performed great, especially with snow and frequent raining. I was thinking about getting something for hot days without membrane, particularly olympus 4 because I heard they have amazing cushion but now I guess I will wait and think it over, perhaps...lone peak 5?
Hello. What does the "rsm" stand for in "lone peak 4 rsm"? Does that refer to it having a waterproof Goretex membrane?
@@alantaylor6691 yes, similar, RainSnowMud
Try the lone peaks from altra they are way more nicer to hike then that model
I have the exact same shoe. I use it for trail running, 120 km so far they are perfect and intact. My Lone Peak 4.5 and 5 lasted me over 1200 km till the first little hole appeared.
That's crazy. I went through 5 pair of Altra in 2 years. Every pair I owned completely fell apart starting around the 100 mile mark. Tread, upper, lasts, and pack out. I'm 6'0, 170lb, proper running form, a number of ultras. I'm no slouch....I don't trust the company unfortunately. I wish they worked for me because that first hundred miles they're great shoes!!
Bizare....i have at least three running buddies who also get well over 1000km out of their Lone Peaks.
@@RealGood10 from personal experience I have no idea how lol. Mine don't feel safe after about 100 miles.
Do they run buffed out trails?
Hi Chase thx for the video. I have been struggling with a Morten’s Neuroma injury but the only shoes I’ve been able to wear this year is Altra’s and I’ve got a pair or Paradigm 6 and have even started to hike in them to but now it seems I might be able to start running again but my budget don’t aloud me to buy boots and running shoes. Now I was wondering what you think about the MONT BLANC Man. I mean they are kind of light :) and have in my opinion a better soul than the Olympus 4 as it hasn’t got that exposed foam soul and they water resistant. I think they might make a good running/hiking shoe what do you think. And thx appreciate your opinion
I find that I get high wear on the inside heel area. Have you had this problem and any suggestions on how to repair it to maximize the use of my shoes. Thanks for the videos.
I am interested. How is it with these not being waterproof? If you step in puddles when you are hiking or have to cross a river would they just dry up again or if you are travelling and hiking for weeks on end are you better off going for a fully waterproof boot like GORE-TEX?
Absolutely I hate wet feet. I have two year old Gore-Tex hokas That take on just a little bit of water from the toenail puncher But still highly water resistant
companies need to stop leaving so much exposed foam on the bottoms. full coverage outsoles above all for durability.
I'm using lone peaks and love the zero drop, why did you not go for the lone peaks?
Lots of similar stories about durability, I figured Olympus might be a different story. Nah
@@ChaseMountains ive put 300K on my lone peak 5 and they are starting to die ,amazing shoe but yeah I think your right .What would you recommend as I'm looking ?
@@christopherrowbottom7489 might be time to trying Topo Athletics? Dixie from Homemade Wanderlust were trying them during Florida Trail but switched to LonePeak5 recently, waiting on her feedback as to why.
My guess is : Topo dries slower than Altra (due to more spongy cushion tissue) and she was walki- Swimming through that trail so she prefered the dry time of Altra?
I just put 500 miles on my Lone Peak 5’s on the Arizona Trail. Toe cap stitching held up great, and only a small hole in the mesh. The AZT is a rough, rocky trail, but truly amazing!!!
I’ve got nearly 500km in mine and don’t have any damage to the upper!! Also I have lone peak 5 which has a rock plate but only 21mm stack! If I was hiking I would stick to the Olympus 👍👍
Hey. Interesting hearing your thoughts on choosing a shoe for the HRP. I remember at one point you were keen on Vivo barefoot - why did you decide against them for this?
Just guessing but Vivo have almost no midsole comfort/support/protection. You're literally walking on the sole of the shoe. For the length of the hike you'd have to already be very well conditioned to use a shoe/boot like that. Just third person observations as well but he'd probably cut the soles to shreds on a hike consisting of so much rock. They also lack a toe cap and wont breath nearly as well as a shoe with a mesh upper.
@@natea1042 Yeah I use the trainers day-to-day and used the boots for some hiking in the winter. I agree the boots don't breath well but why would they get shredded on the rock?
Did you consider Hoka Speedgoat 4? I realize that they’re not zero drop but hey’re available in wide, which I’ve used everyday in all conditions for the last year. I probably have 500+km on them and other than the sole showing some wear they look nearly new! I bet the uppers would be hard to cut even with a knife. No Altras fit my wide foot but after seeing countless examples of their poor durability I’m glad I’ve never bought a pair.
Hokas are definitely on the list to try
Hoka torrent here 1st edition under 100€,very comfortable,I’ve not used them for hiking yet only trail running but will be using them as an approach shoe for upcoming Mt Blanc trip.