I remember playing this as a kid..the only way to speed up the gameplay is to turn off all sound effects and sound, but even then screen is too zoomed in
Funny thing is, for this game, the development team simply ported the Sonic Advance engine to it. Thing is, that engine was not meant for the original's sprites and stuff, hence the slowdown. -_-
It was just done lazily. I mean for example "Rayman Advance" was a GBA port of the original Rayman, and even though it also suffered from having large sprites and screen crunching the physics, framerate and everything else worked just as well as they did in the original. And that was a launch title and it was a port of a PlayStation game. You´d think it would be easier to make a port of a Sega Genesis title.
ArmaBiologica35 Yah. But the Game Boy Advance didn't have Blast Processing. ... ... ... Joke aside. The Game Boy Advance's programming is totally different from the SEGA Genesis. They may have changed the Resolution and a few things, but they didn't edit the programming and format of Sonic 1 for the Game Boy Advance.
Sonic Advance 1, 2, 3, Rush, and Rush Adventure were all made by Dimps, not Sonic Team. Sonic Team only made Sonic Genesis and Sonic 2006 and both failed miserably. The only good Sonic game that Sonic Team ever made afterwards is Sonic Generations which like Sonic Genesis is a remake title as it is a game with remake levels.
+ArmaBiologica35 It's obvious they rush the game out just so to not miss Sonic's 15th birthday. If anything they could had just port it to the Nintendo DS with five extra games(which later they did).
I'm not going to lie, this is how I was first introduced to Sonic 1 and probably to the Sonic series as a whole. Considering all the problems you mentioned, I have no idea how I found it perfectly okay. It doesn't help that I actually remember playing through this game back then, and it took me nearly 2 months to beat Labyrinth Zone.
Dimps: Need some help, guys? Sonic Team: *STFU!* We are the motherfrickin’ pros. All of our games are great af and instant classics. This game won’t be a bombshell like Shadow the Hedgehog, and neither will Sonic ‘06!
The music is insulting to the GBA! I’ve always believed that a good composer determines the quality of a sound chip and not the chip itself. There was EXCELLENT music on the GBA, such as Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, the Sonic Advance trilogy, the Metroid games among many others! In fact, some Sonic 1 music was in Sonic Advance, which sounds great, especially for the hardware! What on earth happened here?
Even if the MIDI Music was the only option, Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe showed that you can do great with compressed music.
I'm not saying it's an excuse. I'm saying that it would be near impossible to recreate authentic Genesis sound on a GBA; it would've sounded different no matter what. Even given that, Sonic Genesis still sounds terrible.
+ExoParadigmGamer One of the two guys responsible for the mobile ports of Sonic 1 and 2 made a proof-of-concept demo port of Sonic 1 back in 2007 that aimed to properly recreate the game on the GBA because he was irritated at how bad Sega screwed it up. Other than the change in audio fidelity, possibly because of the 144p recording, the demo sounds pretty authentic compared to the original Genesis version. Here's the video from his channel showing some gameplay: th-cam.com/video/bFwxF-7vSrQ/w-d-xo.html
9:05 - 9:21 I still find it odd how they were able to screw up the remixes in Sonic Genesis yet they were able to do good remixes for Star Light Zone, Scrap Brain Zone and the Boss theme in Sonic Advance and keep in mind that game came out in 2002, those tracks were pretty much small extras, and if from what I've heard was right Sonic Genesis was running on the same engine Advance 1 used. "Strange isn't it?"
I still cant believe this was the first Sonic game i ever played.After my GBA died out in 2008,i was glad to throw this game in the trash.Then through emulation i played the Genesis version in 2010(for the first time),and i was shocked. About the music,yes its utter bullshit,and after extracting it to Impulse Tracker format,and messing around with GM.DLS (The MIDI soundfont),ive noticed that literally every instrument in Sonic GBA is from the General MIDI soundfont that comes with Windows.
from what I hear, they put the old Genesis software through the Sonic Advanced engine and patched up what didn't work. They spent as little time on this as they could to get it out the door, mayhap if they didn't rush 06 out the door for the holiday release they could have made 2 decent games but you know... Sega with their firsts of stone gripping Sonic Team by the nads and all...
@@ExoParadigmGamer Almost all of us in the world couldn’t be more grateful that you gave Sonic Genesis a “Rebreak” score, mariotehplumber always owed his haters an apology for telling people that Sonic Genesis is “okay, you modern morans just suck at it! 6/10”!
you know SHIT about Sonic 1's worst version, you all were spared from it, i used to have a Panasonic Cell phone, the one with the clamp shell desing and low and behold, it came with Sonic the Hedgehog, you think the GBA version is bad?, try playing it at 2 frames per second, with a cell phone keyboard and the worst sound chip posible, every time you jumped or killed an enemy the BGM would mute to play the SFX, yet it was all i had back then... AND I BEAT IT!
when i was a kid i didnt had consoles, my uncle had that game on his phone, and everytime i visited him iplayed that, maybe it was shit, but it was my shit and i loved it
I dare you to seek out the old mobile port of Sonic 1 from the pre-smartphone era. I had it on an old flip phone. There were no sound effects and you actually had to press 'up' on the phone.so control pad to jump, no joke.
I still remember the review Spax3 did of this game. I'm still kinda baffled why Sega never released it on the DS at the time, since there's enough room for the game, rather than the GBA.
More accurate... Genesis- 50(PAL)/60(NTSC). + slowdown (40). GBA - 15-60, without slowdown compensation. The GBA version just has a much, much more inconsistent frame rate.
I could understand a company deciding to release a remake on GBA in 2006 since it's probably cheaper for both the company and consumer. Also the fact that the DS came with backwards compatibility with GBA anyway, so it's not like a lot is that in that regard, but it's too bad the game turned out the way it did.
@@becus3000 And that's the worst part - porting S1 to Advance engine in a month without any S1 source code or anything at all is a terrible move, but they still did it. And it turned out horrible.
Memories of this game: I bought it when it first came out. I was so outraged that Sega/Sonic Team allowed such a DISGRACE of a port that I went on eBay & bought Sonic Jam for the Saturn & returned this game to the store that I bought it from.
Welcome to The Salty Spittoon how tough are ya? How tough am I? I got all the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 1! Yeah so? On the GBA... Uhh, Right this way sir.
I don't see how others argue the GBA Mario and DKC remakes had bad screen crunching. I never saw them as a huge problem and at some point, never noticed them. I guess people are too picky. Goodness Sonic Genesis is bad. I can defend some parts of games like Sonic 06, but damn this game will never get the same treatment. As someone who really loves the Spring Yard Zone theme, it hurt listening to the GBA version. Great review and I look forward to the other Sonic reviews you have planned. If only I can figure out who the person joining you is.
+Haedox The only thing that's better than the original is the music & the Special stages which are a lot easier so they're at least a lot less frustrating than the genesis version.
You've always made great videos. I think you should review Sonic 4 episode 1 and 2 and make them a part of this and maybe Knuckles Chaotix. Or maybe the gamegear games like Sonic 1, 2, Chaos, Triple Trouble, and Blast, not 3D Blast, Blast. These are the best Sonic reviews I've seen on youtube. Keep making great videos and I will keep liking ;)
The funny thing is, they actually *did* remake the game using the Sonic Advance engine. It's why the game ended up having so many problems. I'm not saying that the Sonic Advance engine was bad or inferior to the Genesis engine, not at all, but it was designed for the Sonic Advance graphics and physics in mind, so when Sonic Team tried porting Sonic 1 to the GBA using said engine, it obviously created a *lot* of problems. And given that they ignored Quality Assurance for Sonic 06, which was Sonic Team's main focus at the time, you can imagine they *just* didn't give a shit with Sonic Genesis.
The GBA version of Sonic 1 is horrible. It has slow-downs, glitches, bugs, bad frame rate, screen crunches and ruined music and ruined sounds. Want a good version of Sonic 1? Then get the game on compilations such as the Sega Smash Pack series, Sonic Jam (Sega Saturn version), Sonic Mega Collection/Sonic Mega Collection Plus and so on and also play the iOS/Android version.
Sonic uses two frames in his death sequence in this GBA port while in the other ports he only has the one. The latter frame is normally used when he drowns.
The irony: Sonic '06 & Genesis were meant to celebrate the 15th anniversary of Sonic, instead they almost marked the death knell for the little blue hedgehog.
I really enjoyed this one! Sorry to hear you're having to take a break, but I surely understand college. I'll be waiting whenever you're ready to review more!
Ngl, I respect that you quit the game. Too many people are like "You can't say it's bad until you complete it", but I feel like even if it's better at that point, games shouldn't take forever to get to "the good part", which may not even be there in a case like this.
He got to the end of Labyrinth Zone, the fourth zone out of six, which is about 2/3 of the way through the game. If over half the game is bad to play, I think it's fair to say the whole game is more bad than good.
Exo, I'm so happy I found you about 2 months ago. I watch these kind of videos, and some of your other reviews every day. They're that good, man. I mean that sincerely
The ironic thing Is that One fan on the internet managed to singlehandedly fix the game. I mean it's completely normal, it's the Sonic modding comunity we're talkingg about
iOs/Android is much better Sega Genesis - Original version GBA - Rebreak and the worst version of remake. iOs/Android - Remake version of replacing original Sega Genesis with a iOs/Android.
8:45 Listen to the soundtrack of Mother 3 and you will hear that the GBA does have quite amazing potential. Yes, it wouldn’t be possible to implement the music without remixing it but they should‘ve at least tried to do so. Speaking of Mother I heard that they ironically butchered Mother 2 on the GBA.
I really appreciate you committing yourself to put out so much content over this past Summer, EPG. I had only just found you in July and was hooked instantly. I went back and watched just about every video on this channel; consistently top-notch programming all around. It's a shame your schedule won't permit as much due to school, but that is totally understandable. I am sure i speak for everyone when I say we look forward to what you put out next!
Actually, there are even some graphical flaws. Sometimes, the sprites will move a pixel or two up and to the right from where it should be (look at the looking up and crouching animations). Also, sometimes the backgrounds don't work, like in Scrap Brain where they don't even try, and sometimes the camera doesn't even block off what you aren't supposed to see (the void under the levels).
Man i really enjoy your videos , such a professional way of reviewing and comparing different versions of games, will you do this also with games like castlevania and megaman? hoping to see more content.Thanks for the good ride!
I still have a GBA SP. I was looking for Sonic games for the GBA. I'm so glad that I watched this video and saw reviews for Sonic Genesis for GBA before deciding which Sonic one port to buy. I'm so glad I avoided wasting about at least $15 on this piece of junk. I'm so glad got the Android version for my Fire Tablet instead. Not only I would've wasted at least $13, but if dodging enemies and stage hazards at high speeds and crawling through Labyrinth Zone is already frustrating enough in the Android version (and the original Sega Genesis version), then I can't imagine how I would feel if I played these same levels on the GBA port.
I'm glad you spoke about the graphics since nobody else on the planet has done that before and I don't think that the music is that bad. I also managed to beat the game but I probably won't do it again.
LucasPlayz_PHN I remember watching a kid play this on the bus in Middle school. I didn't hear the sound, but I seen the slooooow gameplay. I felt bad XD
Is people's problem with Shadow The Hedgehog it looking nothing like a Sonic game? Other than a few things that don't make sense, the game is still very fun to play. I enjoyed going throught different paths.
I honestly can’t believe that not only has Christian Whitehead helped with production on Sonic Mania, on top of rereleasing Sonic 1, 2 & CD, but also FIXED this stupid GBA port. And from what I saw, it runs with flying colors! And tbh, it just shows ONCE AGAIN that fans do what SEGA doesn’t! In fact, it shows that fans are more competent than developers themselves. Developers need to stop with the “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mentality if a port or half-finished game is released in the state they’re in.
From what I remember reading, a lot of the problems this game suffered from was because they were using the Sonic Advanced engine to essentially run a Genesis game. They should’ve just outsourced Sonic Genesis to Dimps. Also, some of the tracks in Sonic 1 were remixed extraordinarily well in Sonic Advanced 1 and 2. They were only in the soundtest, but they were there. Plus, in the credits of Sonic Genesis, there is a _second_ batch of remixes for these tracks, all of them sounding at least slightly better than what we hear going through the actual game.
@ExoParadigmGamer If you wanna know some technical information about Sonic Genesis (GBA), it's running this game in the Sonic Advance engine. This is why slowdown and frame rate stuttering is common. They have two different graphics, so they put the Sonic 1 sprites and assets with Sonic Advance coding. There's proof of concept for Sonic 1 running on the GBA just like the SEGA Genesis version. A guy going by Taxman and Stealth proved that.
You know how a group of people are dedicated to destroying every copy of Shaq Fu? Well someone should do the same for this godawful rebreak. There is NO reason a remake this bad should exist.
The reason of the slow fps is because of the music using the cpu and the music being more complex, and the music is used on the same place in the console as the gameplay so it slows down.
I remember getting this back in 2006 and being excited to play it. When I did, I was kind of disappointed, but was still a little glad to be able to play Sonic 1 on the go. I bet if I were to start on it today, I would also find it terrible since other much better ports have come out.
+ExoParadigmGamer Now that I think about, people with a PSP at the time would've had the Genesis version of Sonic 1 and 2 if they had Sega Genesis Collection. I think that's what it's called.
MASSIVE EDIT THAT DESERVES ITS OWN COMMENT: Oh my god...I forgot the Advance Trilogy was Dimps. So Sonic Team only personally developed Battle and Genesis for the GBA. Their ONLY personal attempt to make a 2D Sonic game on that platform was Genesis. That's fucking sad.
Its kinda sad because there were Sonic Advance games that came out before Sonic Genesis that were way better. There was no reason for this version to suck.
I remember playing this as a kid..the only way to speed up the gameplay is to turn off all sound effects and sound, but even then screen is too zoomed in
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Hey. A Nathaniel comment 3 people replied to. Cool.
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They did great with Sonic Advance 1, 2, 3, why not the same with Genesis?
Its like 'Sonic the Hedgehog without the Blast Processing...'
Funny thing is, for this game, the development team simply ported the Sonic Advance engine to it. Thing is, that engine was not meant for the original's sprites and stuff, hence the slowdown.
-_-
It was just done lazily.
I mean for example "Rayman Advance" was a GBA port of the original Rayman, and even though it also suffered from having large sprites and screen crunching the physics, framerate and everything else worked just as well as they did in the original.
And that was a launch title and it was a port of a PlayStation game.
You´d think it would be easier to make a port of a Sega Genesis title.
ArmaBiologica35
Yah. But the Game Boy Advance didn't have Blast Processing. ... ... ...
Joke aside. The Game Boy Advance's programming is totally different from the SEGA Genesis. They may have changed the Resolution and a few things, but they didn't edit the programming and format of Sonic 1 for the Game Boy Advance.
Sonic Advance 1, 2, 3, Rush, and Rush Adventure were all made by Dimps, not Sonic Team. Sonic Team only made Sonic Genesis and Sonic 2006 and both failed miserably. The only good Sonic game that Sonic Team ever made afterwards is Sonic Generations which like Sonic Genesis is a remake title as it is a game with remake levels.
+ArmaBiologica35 It's obvious they rush the game out just so to not miss Sonic's 15th birthday. If anything they could had just port it to the Nintendo DS with five extra games(which later they did).
I'm not going to lie, this is how I was first introduced to Sonic 1 and probably to the Sonic series as a whole.
Considering all the problems you mentioned, I have no idea how I found it perfectly okay.
It doesn't help that I actually remember playing through this game back then, and it took me nearly 2 months to beat Labyrinth Zone.
ExpitheCat because you'd never seen how it is so much better.
Sonic 06 was my first Sonic game...
I also got introduced to sonic from the gba version I still have that cartdridge
Yoshi Washere your profile pic matches your comment.
ExpitheCat SEGA portable gamer introduced me to sonic
Wait the GBA had double the power of the genesis....
But this game was a shit port.
I bet it was made on a windows 3.1
@@ChaseMC215 it was made on Windows 95 you twat
@@Cool2Smart Profanity for the sake of it...
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn...
It did not have blast processing
@@carotteatomique Blast processing was made up shit to shit on the SNES
Before this was made, it's gonna be a rebreak!
bigbangbot if i had a time machine,and tried to sabatoge the game...They would still release it!
the blue yoshi and the game would be better.
Who thought it was a good idea to put it on the gba. The ds was out at the time.
@@jetster4117 Nobody started using its full potential until 2009 unless if its Mario 64 DS
@@PeruvianPotato factually incorrect
Also, I wonder who that someone could be? ;)
oh man
+Haedox It's AntDude. Sorry to put it to you, bro. Maybe another day.
+Haedox It me.
It's someone
Haedox plz come back
Joke is, someone actually did a rom hack to Sonic Genesis, and it was so high quality, I couldn't believe my eyes.
it wasn't an ROM hack,it was made from the ground up.
@@luisjogos821Forza flashbacks?
Well the rom hack to this Sonic GBA GENESIS is a very interesting one.
in sonic team:
WHAT THE FFFUCK IS A GBA?!
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A SONIC IS AND THEY EXPECT US TO MAKE A SONIC ON A GBA?!
Dimps: Need some help, guys?
Sonic Team: *STFU!* We are the motherfrickin’ pros. All of our games are great af and instant classics. This game won’t be a bombshell like Shadow the Hedgehog, and neither will Sonic ‘06!
Sonic advance anybody?
The slowdowns in GBA makes Sonic 2006 look great.😂
The music is insulting to the GBA! I’ve always believed that a good composer determines the quality of a sound chip and not the chip itself. There was EXCELLENT music on the GBA, such as Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, the Sonic Advance trilogy, the Metroid games among many others! In fact, some Sonic 1 music was in Sonic Advance, which sounds great, especially for the hardware! What on earth happened here?
Radicola - Now that you mention it, it does sound like it. If that’s the case, they picked a very subpar set of sounds to use.
@Radicola ! also there is no soundchip. The CPU makes the sound
even the SMA series doesn't have that bad music
@@g-forcefgt323 - I think I remember hearing that somewhere. It certainly does limit the complexity, but it can be done well.
Even if the MIDI Music was the only option, Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe showed that you can do great with compressed music.
The Sound Card Is No Fucking Excuse For Bad Sound Quality On The GBA. Metroid Fusion Sounds Fantastic On It.
I'm not saying it's an excuse. I'm saying that it would be near impossible to recreate authentic Genesis sound on a GBA; it would've sounded different no matter what. Even given that, Sonic Genesis still sounds terrible.
I Understand That. I'm Just Saying.
+Elliott Domokos I agree. They could of used the same sound quality that Sonic Advance Series have.
+ExoParadigmGamer One of the two guys responsible for the mobile ports of Sonic 1 and 2 made a proof-of-concept demo port of Sonic 1 back in 2007 that aimed to properly recreate the game on the GBA because he was irritated at how bad Sega screwed it up. Other than the change in audio fidelity, possibly because of the 144p recording, the demo sounds pretty authentic compared to the original Genesis version. Here's the video from his channel showing some gameplay: th-cam.com/video/bFwxF-7vSrQ/w-d-xo.html
They tried again on the DS
Everytime a TH-camr goes to college, they never come back.
well do i have news for you
Its about f*cking time you gave a game a rebreak.
+Kiddy Kong Honestly, it made me think rebreaks were bad ports of already bad games. At least I know the difference now?
+People actually look at this? Well I feel Sonic 1 wasn't very good to begin with. It;s lacking in aspects like variety that are in the sequels.
tim5fl It is nowhere near the best, but it's not bad enough to be considered bad from the start. It had tolerable gameplay, at least...
+Deadman I don't think it's bad. Just okay.
Kevin Synan I have Sonic Forces stages on my channel.
9:05 - 9:21 I still find it odd how they were able to screw up the remixes in Sonic Genesis yet they were able to do good remixes for Star Light Zone, Scrap Brain Zone and the Boss theme in Sonic Advance and keep in mind that game came out in 2002, those tracks were pretty much small extras, and if from what I've heard was right Sonic Genesis was running on the same engine Advance 1 used. "Strange isn't it?"
YERRRRGHHH
*strange
OH never saw it with captions
optimization,man.
that's the key word
The remix in Green Hill Zone Sonic Genesis GBA was awful however.
I still cant believe this was the first Sonic game i ever played.After my GBA died out in 2008,i was glad to throw this game in the trash.Then through emulation i played the Genesis version in 2010(for the first time),and i was shocked.
About the music,yes its utter bullshit,and after extracting it to Impulse Tracker format,and messing around with GM.DLS (The MIDI soundfont),ive noticed that literally every instrument in Sonic GBA is from the General MIDI soundfont that comes with Windows.
That is the saddest part of this. For some people, this was their only Sonic game.
@@emilyapricot1313yep. Sonic GENESIS GBA reminds me a lot to Flatout 3 due to how bad the game is.
from what I hear, they put the old Genesis software through the Sonic Advanced engine and patched up what didn't work.
They spent as little time on this as they could to get it out the door, mayhap if they didn't rush 06 out the door for the holiday release they could have made 2 decent games
but you know...
Sega with their firsts of stone gripping Sonic Team by the nads and all...
Sonic Genesis GBA was unfortunately the start of the downfall of Sonic game franchise.
I never knew about the Earthworm Jim GBA remakes, or how good/bad they were.
It would be cool if you reviewed them sometime...
I plan to wait until I have access to all the different versions of both games.
+ExoParadigmGamer Hope your able to do that
@@NICKtendoReviews nice
Now you twoTeam up to review Johnny Test on DS
Or something good. Like the GBA spongebob games. Fricking love those
@@ExoParadigmGamer Almost all of us in the world couldn’t be more grateful that you gave Sonic Genesis a “Rebreak” score, mariotehplumber always owed his haters an apology for telling people that Sonic Genesis is “okay, you modern morans just suck at it! 6/10”!
you know SHIT about Sonic 1's worst version, you all were spared from it, i used to have a Panasonic Cell phone, the one with the clamp shell desing and low and behold, it came with Sonic the Hedgehog, you think the GBA version is bad?, try playing it at 2 frames per second, with a cell phone keyboard and the worst sound chip posible, every time you jumped or killed an enemy the BGM would mute to play the SFX, yet it was all i had back then... AND I BEAT IT!
never heard of it
I beat Sonic on Gamegear and N-gage.
Was the game's name Pana-Sonic?
when i was a kid i didnt had consoles, my uncle had that game on his phone, and everytime i visited him iplayed that, maybe it was shit, but it was my shit and i loved it
Most people don't consider them part of new IOS/Android and console games or don't even know about them.
I dare you to seek out the old mobile port of Sonic 1 from the pre-smartphone era. I had it on an old flip phone. There were no sound effects and you actually had to press 'up' on the phone.so control pad to jump, no joke.
Louis Thrift Really?
@nicholas bradferd no he means the old s1 parts 1 & 2
When i played the remake
GBA: Remake or BREAK IT
A certain trilogy of Sonic games, eh? Would you say they're....advanced?
Nah they are great adventures
SuperUnknownPerson tfw you don't get the joke and/or pun
Funny how you can classify Sonic games in groups of three. Valve, on the other hand, still have trouble finding the word "three" in the dictionary.
+Haedox yeah I do get the joke
+Haedox Do you consider the cut versions the third one? I'd battle you if you said yes.
How fitting you released this on September 11th.
basically
sonic genesis did 9/11
XD
>not MSXGrafx 666
More like Sonic Genesis caused 9/11
I still remember the review Spax3 did of this game. I'm still kinda baffled why Sega never released it on the DS at the time, since there's enough room for the game, rather than the GBA.
Genesis: 30 FPS
GBA: 15(10 underwater)
Gameplay 2-3x slower.
The original ran at 60
Genesis was 50-60 FPS
More accurate...
Genesis- 50(PAL)/60(NTSC).
+ slowdown (40).
GBA - 15-60, without
slowdown compensation.
The GBA version just has a much, much more inconsistent frame rate.
I wish more people did GOOD Gameboy Advance content like this.
lel
+ExoParadigmGamer I hope Sega tries again on making Sonic 1 for the 3DS
+Francisco Reyes huh?
+Alex Perrine 3D sonic 1 for Eshop
They even did sonic 2.
+Fleetway Sonic Lmaof= Laughing my ass off fucker I'm guessin?
I could understand a company deciding to release a remake on GBA in 2006 since it's probably cheaper for both the company and consumer. Also the fact that the DS came with backwards compatibility with GBA anyway, so it's not like a lot is that in that regard, but it's too bad the game turned out the way it did.
+electricmastro But it IS awkward when you consider that Sonic Rush the first Sonic game on the DS had been out for a year.
tim5fl
I suppose Sega wanted to make extra sure that this version of Sonic 1 was bad.
electricmastro True
+electricmastro sonic collection on DS contain sonic 1-2-3&K in, doesn't it?
IKAGURA96
Yup. That was when Sega phased out of their "wanting to be hated by everyone" phase.
They had 3 great sonic sidescrollers on GBA. They could have based this off Sonic Advance.
*2 and a half
Th-they did...
@@becus3000
And that's the worst part - porting S1 to Advance engine in a month without any S1 source code or anything at all is a terrible move, but they still did it. And it turned out horrible.
Yeah.
Maybe a secret
'Sonic 1 Mode.' with remade levels in the Advance engine.
I still think this is one of the worst games of all time.
Wait...the Badnik “boop” sound is the Pokémon RSE EXP sound?
Mind blown, it totally is! Just...wow.
Great video!
yeah,i didn't know that.
Memories of this game: I bought it when it first came out. I was so outraged that Sega/Sonic Team allowed such a DISGRACE of a port that I went on eBay & bought Sonic Jam for the Saturn & returned this game to the store that I bought it from.
(Sees upload date)
Sonic GBA is kinda like the 9/11 of remakes
That's not funny...
Considering all of the dark jokes people make, I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few people laughed at this comment.
@@user-mq1ng6sj7b But yet people despise me for making jokes on the Mosque Shooting on NZ
Yeah, no.
Welcome to The Salty Spittoon how tough are ya?
How tough am I? I got all the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 1!
Yeah so?
On the GBA...
Uhh, Right this way sir.
Sega had a lot of nerve to make 2 awful sonic games both called Sonic the Hedgehog and release them on the same day
Sure did
Spring Yard Zone music in Sonic GBA=What Hell sounds like.
ShakeFan14 Nah, Axel F in IBM PC is worse.
ShakeFan14 Nah the sound of a TH-camr making a poorly made rant is what hell sounds like.
Star Light was the best song in the genesis version, gba fucks it up.
I've never heard the word pestiferous before.
A 20 minute ROR... Times have really changed.
What do you mean?
Up to 3 hours now
Sonic the hedgehog for game boy advance was the first game boy advance game i ever played
That means you have to do Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 ROR lol
That means he has to do Comix Zone RoR
I don't see how others argue the GBA Mario and DKC remakes had bad screen crunching. I never saw them as a huge problem and at some point, never noticed them. I guess people are too picky.
Goodness Sonic Genesis is bad. I can defend some parts of games like Sonic 06, but damn this game will never get the same treatment. As someone who really loves the Spring Yard Zone theme, it hurt listening to the GBA version.
Great review and I look forward to the other Sonic reviews you have planned. If only I can figure out who the person joining you is.
Thanks, Frank!
Thank you too
You know, out of curiosity, I purchased this dang ol' game and I was not disappointed
+Haedox Earlydox
+ExoParadigmGamer Nice.
+ExoParadigmGamer Aaayyyy *AIRHORNS*
+Haedox The only thing that's better than the original is the music & the Special stages which are a lot easier so they're at least a lot less frustrating than the genesis version.
***** Why? For hilarity?
You've always made great videos. I think you should review Sonic 4 episode 1 and 2 and make them a part of this and maybe Knuckles Chaotix. Or maybe the gamegear games like Sonic 1, 2, Chaos, Triple Trouble, and Blast, not 3D Blast, Blast. These are the best Sonic reviews I've seen on youtube.
Keep making great videos and I will keep liking ;)
The gba didn't have enough blast processing.
It had, Sonic Team just sucks at making a port. Sonic Advance 1, 2, & 3 already proves how Sonic games would be perfected on GBA.
+Voan Siam they could have made it in the sonic advance engine.
The funny thing is, they actually *did* remake the game using the Sonic Advance engine. It's why the game ended up having so many problems. I'm not saying that the Sonic Advance engine was bad or inferior to the Genesis engine, not at all, but it was designed for the Sonic Advance graphics and physics in mind, so when Sonic Team tried porting Sonic 1 to the GBA using said engine, it obviously created a *lot* of problems. And given that they ignored Quality Assurance for Sonic 06, which was Sonic Team's main focus at the time, you can imagine they *just* didn't give a shit with Sonic Genesis.
Well Genesis does what Nintendon't u know what i'm saying.
As someone who has memorized the entirety of Labyrinth Zone, and enjoys it a lot, not even I'm willing to try it on the GBA.
The GBA version of Sonic 1 is horrible. It has slow-downs, glitches, bugs, bad frame rate, screen crunches and ruined music and ruined sounds. Want a good version of Sonic 1? Then get the game on compilations such as the Sega Smash Pack series, Sonic Jam (Sega Saturn version), Sonic Mega Collection/Sonic Mega Collection Plus and so on and also play the iOS/Android version.
Or The original game
"Welcome back gentle and laidiesmen"
Ah the nostalgia from a half-decade ago hits us like a truck!
God bless your soul for playing Labyrinth zone. sounds like hell on that port
Even green hill zone that music is dumb do not listen it's bad
Ya had one job, Sonic Team. *ONE JOB!!*
Jesus, Sonic's 15th birthday was total shit.
Sonic uses two frames in his death sequence in this GBA port while in the other ports he only has the one. The latter frame is normally used when he drowns.
I’m very glad I grew up with Sonic Classic Collection instead of this handheld version.
2006 really was Sonic's darkest hour. Even the GBA wasn't spared.
Sonic riders: am I a joke to you
Man, I'm glad I got Sonic Advance instead of this as a kid
This game looks like a bootleg and sounds like a 2005 fangame with paint graphics
The irony: Sonic '06 & Genesis were meant to celebrate the 15th anniversary of Sonic, instead they almost marked the death knell for the little blue hedgehog.
Especially SG.
I've got a game for Remake or Rebreak: Megaman and Bass (Originally an SNES game, was ported to GBA)
This game was hard enough, and they HAD to add the freaking screen crunch.
and plus, mm&bass snes is japan exclusive
The gba version had a much better soundtrack
2019 has that on ror
don't make him play it
I really enjoyed this one! Sorry to hear you're having to take a break, but I surely understand college. I'll be waiting whenever you're ready to review more!
Ngl, I respect that you quit the game. Too many people are like "You can't say it's bad until you complete it", but I feel like even if it's better at that point, games shouldn't take forever to get to "the good part", which may not even be there in a case like this.
He got to the end of Labyrinth Zone, the fourth zone out of six, which is about 2/3 of the way through the game. If over half the game is bad to play, I think it's fair to say the whole game is more bad than good.
@@tnt1770 agreed
Exo, I'm so happy I found you about 2 months ago. I watch these kind of videos, and some of your other reviews every day. They're that good, man. I mean that sincerely
4:17 you mean somecallmeJohnny said that not the AVGN,
I just found your channel and I love your reviews. You aren't typical as most retro gamers are and you actually review it!
3:44 first sonic game i owned
You wanna hear something funny, Exo?
This was the second game I ever played, at the age of 6.
Ideas for future RORs: Kingdom hearts chain of memories
Mario Kart Super Circuit (All the SNES tracks are unlockable)
Sonic Adventure Games
The ironic thing Is that One fan on the internet managed to singlehandedly fix the game.
I mean it's completely normal, it's the Sonic modding comunity we're talkingg about
I prefer Genesis version
I prefer the IOS version
even the panasonic cell version?
Yellow Metal said everyone
iOs/Android is much better
Sega Genesis - Original version
GBA - Rebreak and the worst version of remake.
iOs/Android - Remake version of replacing original Sega Genesis with a iOs/Android.
Duh
8:45 Listen to the soundtrack of Mother 3 and you will hear that the GBA does have quite amazing potential. Yes, it wouldn’t be possible to implement the music without remixing it but they should‘ve at least tried to do so. Speaking of Mother I heard that they ironically butchered Mother 2 on the GBA.
I agree... Mother 2 on the gba is... EXTRA HORRIBLE.
but mother 3 is flawless 😎👌
This game and PAC man world Gba got a re break exactly 2 years from each other
MrFunny64 Yeah.
And those are the only rebreaks, *sigh.....*
I really appreciate you committing yourself to put out so much content over this past Summer, EPG. I had only just found you in July and was hooked instantly. I went back and watched just about every video on this channel; consistently top-notch programming all around. It's a shame your schedule won't permit as much due to school, but that is totally understandable. I am sure i speak for everyone when I say we look forward to what you put out next!
+Chef Pene Enorme Thanks, mang.
@@ExoParadigmGamer love your vids bro keep it up main
Ever saw the BrainScratchComms playthrough?
Johnny:YAY! Trial and error!
+GameStation3 Remember what happened to Johnny in the final boss battle?
+GameStation3 I know for a fact he has. ;)
+GameStation3 Yeah. at this point its my favorite commentary on BrainScratch.
+GameStation3 Ryan: WHY? WHY? WHY?
"Pestiferous", eh?
I learned a word today.
Great vid, keep up the awesome!
Hey! You should do an episode on Pokemon Red & Blue and their Remakes, FireRed & LeafGreen, for the 20th anniversary!
WISH GRANTED
@@PeruvianPotato not yet, he has to do spyro first
Imagine the poor people that first experienced a sonic game with this abomination
I did lmao
Actually, there are even some graphical flaws. Sometimes, the sprites will move a pixel or two up and to the right from where it should be (look at the looking up and crouching animations). Also, sometimes the backgrounds don't work, like in Scrap Brain where they don't even try, and sometimes the camera doesn't even block off what you aren't supposed to see (the void under the levels).
For some reason I feel like this video was specifically made for Clement
where's the other reviews?!
Man i really enjoy your videos , such a professional way of reviewing and comparing different versions of games, will you do this also with games like castlevania and megaman? hoping to see more content.Thanks for the good ride!
I still have a GBA SP. I was looking for Sonic games for the GBA. I'm so glad that I watched this video and saw reviews for Sonic Genesis for GBA before deciding which Sonic one port to buy. I'm so glad I avoided wasting about at least $15 on this piece of junk. I'm so glad got the Android version for my Fire Tablet instead. Not only I would've wasted at least $13, but if dodging enemies and stage hazards at high speeds and crawling through Labyrinth Zone is already frustrating enough in the Android version (and the original Sega Genesis version), then I can't imagine how I would feel if I played these same levels on the GBA port.
5:12 And it's kinda funny when you suddenly send Sonic flying into outer space, because space is outside the skybox.
You can't spell Incompetent without Sega
I'm glad you spoke about the graphics since nobody else on the planet has done that before and I don't think that the music is that bad. I also managed to beat the game but I probably won't do it again.
I feel bad for the people who wasted their money on this game.
LucasPlayz_PHN I remember watching a kid play this on the bus in Middle school. I didn't hear the sound, but I seen the slooooow gameplay. I felt bad XD
I legit was typing slow cause of sonic GBA.
Is people's problem with Shadow The Hedgehog it looking nothing like a Sonic game? Other than a few things that don't make sense, the game is still very fun to play. I enjoyed going throught different paths.
... i haven't even got a GBA stock pile. I would rather play a sonic ROM hack than this crappy remake that deserves to be smashed on bored smashing
Sonic 06 on the other hand i may give a try at some point
+superstar64 sonic 0-Glitch go ahead
Future Trunks It's not that bad when you actually play it.
GameCityGaming I played the first level and I started to warp all over the map. Never again
Future Trunks I got through the whole game without glitches taking my lives
"Bubsy is by Accolade which I'm pretty sure is defunct by now" Ah 2015, how naive we were
13:40
I honestly can’t believe that not only has Christian Whitehead helped with production on Sonic Mania, on top of rereleasing Sonic 1, 2 & CD, but also FIXED this stupid GBA port. And from what I saw, it runs with flying colors! And tbh, it just shows ONCE AGAIN that fans do what SEGA doesn’t! In fact, it shows that fans are more competent than developers themselves. Developers need to stop with the “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mentality if a port or half-finished game is released in the state they’re in.
This game is worse than Free Riders? What the hell did that game do right?
+dragonstormx That's a good question. I'll let you know when I actually play it.
Okay then, good luck. From the footage I've seen that game's controls look barely functional.
I've played the game once before. The controls are atrocious and barely functional. So, good luck.
Maybe the soundtrack?
Free riders was the one where they were on the boards it isn't that bad and was pretty fun
Fun fact Simon Thomley yes the same guy who was a part of the sonic mania team actually made proper port of Sonic Genesis on the GBA
From what I remember reading, a lot of the problems this game suffered from was because they were using the Sonic Advanced engine to essentially run a Genesis game. They should’ve just outsourced Sonic Genesis to Dimps.
Also, some of the tracks in Sonic 1 were remixed extraordinarily well in Sonic Advanced 1 and 2. They were only in the soundtest, but they were there. Plus, in the credits of Sonic Genesis, there is a _second_ batch of remixes for these tracks, all of them sounding at least slightly better than what we hear going through the actual game.
@ExoParadigmGamer If you wanna know some technical information about Sonic Genesis (GBA), it's running this game in the Sonic Advance engine. This is why slowdown and frame rate stuttering is common. They have two different graphics, so they put the Sonic 1 sprites and assets with Sonic Advance coding. There's proof of concept for Sonic 1 running on the GBA just like the SEGA Genesis version. A guy going by Taxman and Stealth proved that.
In fact this 2006 GBA remake came after the Sonic Advance trilogy, which the latter three were actually good.
Which is part of why it is inexcusable for Sonic Genesis to suck this horribly.
You know how a group of people are dedicated to destroying every copy of Shaq Fu? Well someone should do the same for this godawful rebreak. There is NO reason a remake this bad should exist.
The reason of the slow fps is because of the music using the cpu and the music being more complex, and the music is used on the same place in the console as the gameplay so it slows down.
Love this channel. Just discovered it and I'm hooked!
I remember getting this back in 2006 and being excited to play it. When I did, I was kind of disappointed, but was still a little glad to be able to play Sonic 1 on the go. I bet if I were to start on it today, I would also find it terrible since other much better ports have come out.
I can see why the game's portability factor may have had some novelty before both the mobile and 3DS versions supplanted it.
+ExoParadigmGamer Now that I think about, people with a PSP at the time would've had the Genesis version of Sonic 1 and 2 if they had Sega Genesis Collection. I think that's what it's called.
YAY I requested this review and you reviewed it, cheers.
love your remake or rebreak series! do Crystalis next! that was such a big difference from NES to GBC
Just wanted the commwnts to be at 700, nice channel!
MASSIVE EDIT THAT DESERVES ITS OWN COMMENT: Oh my god...I forgot the Advance Trilogy was Dimps. So Sonic Team only personally developed Battle and Genesis for the GBA. Their ONLY personal attempt to make a 2D Sonic game on that platform was Genesis. That's fucking sad.
Your next line is "Rebrake"
James Rolfe? As in the Angry Video Game Nerd? Sir, you have good taste indeed.
Its kinda sad because there were Sonic Advance games that came out before Sonic Genesis that were way better. There was no reason for this version to suck.