ALBUM BREAKDOWN: FOLKLORE - Taylor Swift… GENIUS SONGWRITING!!! Part 1

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  • @chatsandreacts
    @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +673

    Hey friends! This video will be uploaded in 3 parts because we had just a little too much footage 😂Stay tuned for the rest soon ❤️

    • @DominiqueKayanna
      @DominiqueKayanna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So very exciting!!!

    • @celesteesminombre
      @celesteesminombre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How soon!? Lol

    • @julchenc5172
      @julchenc5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So excited for all the hours of folklore related footage 😍

    • @nicorobinop2870
      @nicorobinop2870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep.. Splitting it in 3 parts is better😁😁

    • @juliabec7413
      @juliabec7413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh my god! I can't wait for three hours of Folklore content! YAAAS

  • @Sam-wl4le
    @Sam-wl4le 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1110

    The "peter losing wendy" line also signifies growth. Peter Pan famously never grows up- similar to James. Wendy goes on to live the rest of her life and grows old and marries and has children of her own. I think that's why Taylor made the love triangle songs occur at different ages. Cardigan: Betty is much older here and reflects back on this time in her life. August: Slightly older and reflecting back because she's managed to move on a bit. Betty: James is frozen at the age that they cheated- always childlike (17), never grows up in this story. How beautiful

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      oh shit yesssssssssssssssssssss to THIS!!

    • @dmsjt5181
      @dmsjt5181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I thought August was written from the perspective of the other girl that James was with though? It wasn’t from Betty’s perspective. Cardigan was Betty’s perspective, Betty was from James’ perspective, and August was from the other girl’s.

    • @Sam-wl4le
      @Sam-wl4le 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@dmsjt5181 Yes- I guess I didn't make that clear. All 3 are reflecting on the same affair at different ages. My b!

    • @lisadarcangelo8402
      @lisadarcangelo8402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      maybe your explanation would also fit a Scott-Pan and Wendy-Taylor. Taylor goes on to live the rest of her life and grows figuratively (connecting Bonny's and Em's interpretation of "But now I'm bleedin'" 26:21 with "And if you never bleed, you're never gonna grow" (from The 1) and your explanation), has children of her own (re-recording her masters as well as owning her new albums) while James was acting emotionally immature and sold the albums to Scooter 🤷

    • @Sam-wl4le
      @Sam-wl4le 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lisadarcangelo8402 This is real good. I support

  • @workofalj
    @workofalj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +921

    Your Taylor reactions are like therapy for me. They’re very relatable and it feels like I am part of the conversation with my Swiftie best friends.

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      aw that makes me sooo happy ❤️ - B

  • @evamay_
    @evamay_ ปีที่แล้ว +39

    hearing you guys say "she wrote it with this William Bowery, we don't know who he is" feels so crazy now

  • @omarcastillo4240
    @omarcastillo4240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    Also in Miss Americana, when she said “I'm sorry. Was I too loud? In my own house, which I bought with my own money writing about my own life?” THERE GOES THE LOUDEST WOMEN THIS TOWN HAS EVER SEEN!!! (42:02 when you’re talking about it)

  • @bonnieyao5486
    @bonnieyao5486 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I forgot William Bowery wasn't known at this point omg, rewatching your reacts are the best

  • @AvocadoMarthe
    @AvocadoMarthe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This video is so fun to revisit after TTPD! Bonnie about the 1: there is no other ex she would feel this way about. 😂 honey you got a big storm coming

    • @rocketsoccer1
      @rocketsoccer1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I feel like we need to revisit folklore and evermore with the new context of the Matty and Joe situations lol

  • @featherrayj
    @featherrayj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    I love how like all the songs have so many layers of meaning to them, because if you think of it, that’s what folklore is. The initial story is there but there are underlying lessons and truths within.

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      totally I think I say that somewhere in this video... it's actually insane how clever this album is even in just naming it Folklore! Genius

    • @featherrayj
      @featherrayj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Chats and Reacts omg i knoww! Just genius!! Every time i listen to the songs new things come up🙈✨

  • @sarahb7895
    @sarahb7895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    3 PARTS?! Giiiirls your spoiling us

  • @maddysmith8589
    @maddysmith8589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    “leaving like a father” could be referring to how she saw scott as family but he betrayed her

  • @jacobinfinity8199
    @jacobinfinity8199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    There are so many Gatsby references made in “TLGAD”, the ones you mentioned as well as the “new money.”Gatsby being new money.
    How Gatsby would go out to the rocks at night and look across the water to Daisys house who always had a green light shining across the water.
    She also mentions in “Don’t Blame Me” “I once was poison ivy, but now I’m your Daisy.”
    Gatsby loved Daisy to his death, and Joe loves her like Gatsby loved Daisy.
    I have a theory that “The Great Gatsby” is one of Joe’s favorite books or one that they both love because she says in “Paper Rings” “Now I’ve read all the books beside your bed.”
    Such a great breakdown!! I literally screamed when I saw that this was not only one hour, but PART ONE OF THREE!! Im so stoked for more to come. Thank you for these videos 💞💞💞

    • @anariguera2250
      @anariguera2250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really loved this! Never thought about it

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      oh my GOD!! This is an amazing theory ahhhh thank you for sharing, I love how many dots you connected 👏🏼🙈

    • @nicolepb1024
      @nicolepb1024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The Great Gatsby is one of Taylor's favorite books! She's been obsessed with Fitzgerald for years. Her cat Benjamin is named after Benjamin Button (a Fitzgerald character). So that's why there are all those Gatsby references.

    • @caitlinscott101
      @caitlinscott101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “Base beat rattling the chandelier. Feeling so Gatsby for that whole year” 🎵

    • @lkcullen1918
      @lkcullen1918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Now that you mention it...
      "I hope she'll be a *beautiful fool,* who takes my spot next to you"
      and "All you want from me now is the *green light* of forgiveness"
      from happiness have always reminded me of Gatsby too (for obvious reasons 👀)

  • @jeremywu1238
    @jeremywu1238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    You two are one of the most ~superior~ channels on youtube 🤩🤩
    Taylor Swift’s genius is undeniable and you two dissect her songs so amazingly, making it easier for us casual fans to understand all the subtle nuances and hidden messages.

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      that is so splendid to hear thank you so much 🥰🥰

    • @yasminesqueda6742
      @yasminesqueda6742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha superior!!

  • @Alex-ul3xw
    @Alex-ul3xw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    When you discussed Exile being about losing her music to scooter and the connection to my tears ricochet:
    in my tears ricochet she sings "I can go anywhere I want, anywhere I want just not HOME"
    It fits so well with the definition of exile you read out and also her singing "you're not my homeland anymore." in exile!
    Thank you so much for these videos and for making me love Taylor Swift even more ❤️

    • @haninedif4025
      @haninedif4025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      İt's all make sense 😻😻💙

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Oh for sure they go together sooo well 😍The next video starts with my tears ricochet and there is.... lots to be said 🙈

    • @haninedif4025
      @haninedif4025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chatsandreacts I'm sooo existed please don't be late to put part 2🙏🙏💙

  • @jaydejessome3643
    @jaydejessome3643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    I kinda take “the 1” as not being about a specific ex bf but collectively all of them. Like she’s looking back at her “roaring twenties” and saying it could have been great if she’d ended up with any of those boys but she didn’t and it’s all good.

    • @isalafond5571
      @isalafond5571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think it's more about Tom. She says "but we were something, don't you think so?", even if their relationship was short she wants to make sure he counted it. Also when she says "And if you never bleed, you're never gonna grow" she knows she's the one who hurt the other one in the relationship and then "in my defence I have none" she knew it wasn't gonna work from the beginning but still went for it.

    • @LuLu98J
      @LuLu98J 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I agree AND I think that "the 1" (literally the #1 track of folklore) is an introductory song to the whole record AND the re-recordings, she is basically telling us that this album is going to explore the loss of her albums (wouldn't it be fun, Scott, if you would've been my musical partner forever? But you weren't though) and she's telling her past lovers that she HAS to re-recorded her albums and the songs about them (In my defense, I have none | For digging up the grave another time), but that they could re-experience their relationships with her as she re-records them (wouldn't it be fun if you had been the one? What if one thing had been different, would everything be different today? Come on, my exes, let's let our imagination flow). It's an introductory song but IT HAS SO MANY LAYERS!

    • @tana3875
      @tana3875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LuLu98J oh my gosh I LOVE this explanation so much! It’s my personal interpretation for this song now. It just makes so much sense for it to be about all her exes in general. When you brought up the “digging up the grave” line and tied it into her re-recording her old songs I got chills. Love this!

  • @liviafaraco
    @liviafaraco ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm a very new swiftie and I'm going through eras one at a time, but a song I've been listening to since it came out was cardigan, but I never fathomed the meaning as you said in this video and AS SOON AS YOU SAID that it was her talking to the fans, I started bawling my eyes out, I couldn't stop crying, I was so emotional!! I genuinely LOVE this woman.

  • @jules8601
    @jules8601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    we absolutely NEED a 1989 break down AND a fine line reaction!!!

  • @dizzy_star
    @dizzy_star 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The fact that our understandings of this album, evermore and Midnights have COMPLETELY changed because of what we know now from TTPD and Matty is UNFATHOMABLE.

    • @clive1jackson
      @clive1jackson หลายเดือนก่อน

      we so need new fathomings of these albums.

  • @prestonwinters1362
    @prestonwinters1362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    their chats and reacts for every song:
    2:13 - The 1
    18:00 - Cardigan
    33:38 - The Last Great American Dynasty
    44:37 - Exile
    we can't wait for the other parts, Bonny and Emily!!💕

  • @SilverStarOfTheNight
    @SilverStarOfTheNight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Hi I just want to clarify something
    1. Taylor owns the copyright to her music and Big Machine owned Taylor’s masters to her 6 albums. BM owns the right to the masters because of the contrat Taylor signed when she was 15. Take note that it was Scott who asked Taylor to sign with him when at the time he didn’t even have a company yet. Taylor was his first artist and it was Taylor who made BM such a profitable company.
    2. Owning the masters means they have control over publication (basically use in movies, putting it on youtube, control over use of the songs when played on tv, etc). They make money everytime someone uses a copy of the masters.
    3. Taylor wants her masters because she wrote the music, it is her voice, the images are of her, the concept and words on the cd jackets are hers, basically every detail in the cds are birth from her ideas.
    4. Copyright is given to an artist from the birth of the art. It has many rights such as right to royalties. Taylor still owns the copyright to her music hence she still gets paid royalties to the use of her music. This is also why Taylor can rerecord her music. By rerecording, Taylor will create new masters of her old albums.

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Thank you for breaking this down!! Amazing! 💚 - Em

    • @nk0314
      @nk0314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Also, Taylor still has a decent amount of control of her masters being used in movies etc. To use a song they need the publishing rights (Taylor) and the master rights (scooter). So she's currently blocking scooter from using any of her catalogue in movies, tv etc. So really all scooter is making money off is people buying her old music, streaming it, buying tour dvds and watching her music videos etc. Taylor said she wants her music to live on in films and tv but she doesn't want scooter to make a cent off of her so she'll re-record and use those versions instead in films etc. She's insanely smart and is making all the right moves, leveraging her fan base that she has earned and forcing them to play this out in public so they can't bully her and i'm very excited to see crazy chess game they're playing continue.

    • @Hello-yg4bc
      @Hello-yg4bc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first thing you would have is to

    • @brunetteXer
      @brunetteXer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nk0314 yep, and in our family of me+3 girls we deleted the og Fearless and Red albums. We do buy the old CDs if we spot them in thrift shops though. maybe one day we can send them in and taylor can destroy them in a video, haha.

  • @sierrabailey4989
    @sierrabailey4989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    In exile when he says "so step right out, there is no amount of crying I can do for you" I take that as Scott saying go ahead and leave. I'm not going to give you what you want and what you're asking for. He's not crying about it at all, he's just saying no to giving her a chance to buy back her masters. He thinks that she'll just leave it alone and move on but then she actually does leave and then of course it my tears ricochet she's saying "it killed you just the same, wishing I stayed, drunk on this pain, curing my name ect... so he wasn't crying in exile but he was crying in my tears ricochet

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      yes yes yes I think you are right with this one actually!!! I saw it differently but this makes more sense! - B xx

  • @AriD-p8n
    @AriD-p8n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    literally JUST forced my mom to listen to betty, august, and cardigan and she was mind blown with the genius storyline and songwriting!!!!!!! now i’m gonna force her to watch this video with me lol

    • @akashi3000
      @akashi3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A ...Haha... Niceee!! I'm sure you will be have a marvellous time!! 😜

  • @sarahb7895
    @sarahb7895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I literally screamed when I saw this notification

  • @jessfitzpatrick2549
    @jessfitzpatrick2549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    My theory is that “the 1” is from the perspective of Selena Gomez, singing about Justin Bieber (I had a Tik Tok go viral about it haha). Lots of signs point to it! Justin featured on a song called “I’m the one”. Selena also has a lyric in her song “fun” : “you may not be the one, but you look like fun”. Very similar to “it would have been fun, if you would have been the one”. They are close friends and Aaron didn’t just say it wasn’t from her perspective, he said the specifically it was the perspective of a friend which even more so makes me think it’s about Selena and Justin! Could be wrong but a fun theory none the less haha 🤣 my fav part of this era is all the different theories!!

    • @tusharraj1297
      @tusharraj1297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      omg a 100%

    • @haninedif4025
      @haninedif4025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wooow it's so genius 😻

    • @AS.Alkubaisi
      @AS.Alkubaisi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THIS IS MIND BLOWING 🤯

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      omg okay yes I have thought about this and you could very well be right BUT I also think Taylor dislikes Justin so much that she would never write such a nice song about him... AND I don't think she ever thought he was the one for Selena. But that's just my thoughts 🙈- B xx

    • @emsta0236
      @emsta0236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree! I think a few songs of Taylors are about Selena Justin and potentialy Hailey... Especially when she said in tiny desk that her friends were going through break ups which allowed her to draw upon inspiration to write death by a thousand cuts.

  • @vladleiva4055
    @vladleiva4055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I love the most about this channel is that you guys actually listen to each other before talking. That’s hard to happen with 2 people channels. Every one is so eager to talk that they interrupt their partner without even listening. Each one of you gives the other the space to talk and you actually listen to the other’s words. That’s lovely 🤎

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha aw thank you!! We have worked on not interrupting each other because sometimes the excitement takes over 🙈

  • @lizalebo4278
    @lizalebo4278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    start a podcast start a podcast START A PODCAST pls and thank u

  • @vidr5797
    @vidr5797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I agree with you so much on The 1 being about Harry. He truly is a gentleman and if Taylor were to write a song about her exes it would most definitely be him. Don't get me wrong, we all know Taylor is so much in love with Joe and she is happy and we are happy for her too! But Haylor will always hold a special place in my heart and he is her best ex. I know this entire album is just "folklore" but something about this song being about Harry brings a smile to my face :) They are the perfect example of meeting the right person but at the wrong time.
    Thank you guys for uploading this finally! Been waiting for this video ever since your folklore reaction came out! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @artemis7674
    @artemis7674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    "you drew stars around my scars" can also be about her record label making money off her heartbreaks. it's like an attempt to make things feel better because they all got something out of it and for a moment, it was pretty but then, as the song goes "now, I'm bleeding". because the scars were always a vulnerable place to touch and she let them, but they betrayed her.

  • @hollybeck605
    @hollybeck605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i LOVE that you're having to split this into three parts. Your passion for Taylor is awesome! I smiled the whole way through.

  • @Starbuck-dr7yl
    @Starbuck-dr7yl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love your breakdowns!! I had a slightly different take on Cardigan, although I do believe that there is hidden meaning behind some of the lyrics. High heels on, cobblestones black lipstick, sensual politics.... I think this refers to Joe and the Met Gala. Her Tribeca compound in NYC is on one of NYC’s remaining cobblestone streets, there are not many that remain. If they met at the MET gala, in NYC, she was wearing really dark lipstick, high heels, living at her Tribeca pad on a cobblestone St. The MET gala is the red carpet of all red carpets, it usually has a political undertone where using fashion to make a political statement is normal and usually welcomed and expected.
    During REP, her stock was down and she is inherently insecure anyway. I think she’s talking about Joe putting her on (“you try on calling me baby like trying on clothes” from KOMH) after she felt like she had been discarded and forgotten by her fans and the music industry. He decided she was his favorite. It almost seems like he had other girlfriends or wasn’t wanting any commitment just yet (“it’s cool I tell him no rules”, “maybe u ran with the wolves and refused to settle down”, “ back when we were card sharks playing games”, “ echoes of your footsteps on the stairs, stay here honey I don’t want to share”, etc). Until he chose her from the other women maybe, he told her she was his favorite (I’m a mess but the mess that you wanted).
    To kiss in cars to downtown bars, maybe even a dive bar, could be them making out in the backseat of cars (in the backseat drunk on something stronger than the drinks in the bar) coming home from the bar, or while she waits in the backseat while he secures the rental on Cornelia St. choose two girls lose the one also implies that he wasn’t ready to settle down And this upsets her (I cried in the back of the car coming home from the bar, I love you ain’t that the worst thing you’ve ever heard; I packed my things, left Cornelia St before you even knew I was gone; maybe I’ve stormed out of every room in this town; begging you to leave me just so I can scare you; I woke up just in time now I wake up by your side).
    Playing hide and seek and giving me your weekends. In order to meet up with Joe, she had to be in disguises, hiding from media and fans. Maybe this would happen on weekends, or I know she was jet setting to London maybe on the weekends.
    I think the final bridge is also about Joe. Tried to change the ending Peter losing Wendy, he keeps trying to keep her and she keeps running away (you gotta leave before you get left; again the I woke up just in time lyric and at least I did one thing right). She knew he’s the stable one in this relationship, no matter how many times she tries to run away because she’s scared and insecure, she knew he would always be there for her (In Afterglow, it’s only in my head; Then you called showed your hand, I turned around before I hit the tunnel ....). She knows she is a mess but he is the rock. She will go through phases where she feels discarded By fans or friends, but she will always be his favorite, she can always count on him.
    Leaving like a father, running like water, I knew you’d linger....... I think she is talking about herself running away from this relationship, trying to save herself from being hurt because she loved him so much.... But he lingered, she couldn’t leave him completely. Haunt all of my what-ifs. He was the rock, and he was haunting her scenarios until they get back together because she was miserable without him. He’d always be there for her no matter how many times she storms off, storms out of all these rooms in NYC, but it’s all in her head, he’s still there for her. His favorite.

  • @susie6032
    @susie6032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I can't even articulate how excited I am to watch this!! Getting on my cardigan, making some tea and clearing my schedule!

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      omg you have your cardigan?! yesss amazing - B x

    • @-chenlanying5818
      @-chenlanying5818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chatsandreacts "the 1" whole vibe is like a shrug with the "it would've been fun", it's like she's saying it would have been fun if we had work out but we didn't and that's fine

  • @EmzieBeeee
    @EmzieBeeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I so wish I could have seen you two finding out who William Bowery is!

  • @alyssamorgan9691
    @alyssamorgan9691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was so worried that this was going to be only short reactions for each song because we were halfway through and only on the second song but I'm SO SO GLAD you are dedicating the required amount of time to the GENIUS that is Ms. T Swift. This video could have been three hours and I would have watched it all in one sitting!!
    Love you guys xxxx

  • @lulutae8838
    @lulutae8838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Watching it now! You've turned me into a Taylor Swift fan!

  • @katiebean1113
    @katiebean1113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Okay but when she comes in during exile singing “line” over him, that is her drawing the line in their relationship! She’s saying that is as far as it will go, I’ve drawn the line and now we need to separate. And my tears ricochet is all about what happens when he chose to cross that line!!

  • @shreiyatandon8680
    @shreiyatandon8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The lyric about "peter losing wendy" is so intelligent even from the peter pan pov if you've heard about that theory?

    • @hayafatima6235
      @hayafatima6235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's the peter pan theory?

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      is it about him never growing up? Like James?

    • @shreiyatandon8680
      @shreiyatandon8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chatsandreacts Yeah exactly, how he made the choice to say "I'm only seventeen, I don't know anything" but Betty made the choice to grow up

  • @catmaticka
    @catmaticka ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your enthusiasm is just infectious!!!! every album you guys review I just get completely obsessed with

  • @11svenn11
    @11svenn11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Superiorrrrrrrr! I have relistened all of her albums because of you. I used to love her songs before (not all) but i didnt understand them, but you made it so clear. There is just so much meaning and emotion behind every song. Thanks for that!
    aaaaa 3 parts?! You girls are awesome

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ahhhh these comments are my fav 😊so happy you enjoy! - B xx

  • @leetahs9051
    @leetahs9051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I CANNOT. tell you. How much pure joy seeing this notification gave me.

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      leetahs omg 😍 and that’s why we make these videos 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @leetahs9051
      @leetahs9051 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chats and Reacts love you ladies immensely, thank you for your service 😂💛

  • @Username22xD
    @Username22xD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "exile" is definitely inspired by the movie Marriage Story! If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend it. I'm 100% convinced it was inspired by this movie haha

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TEAAAAA!!! I’ve heard lots about this movie but haven’t seen it yet. Will definitely have to watch! - Em

  • @skyemoffitt8064
    @skyemoffitt8064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Really random but I have a Harry Styles theory for exile because there are so many lyric links!! On firstly “holdin all this love out here in the hall” = “meet me in the hallway” , “get your knuckles bloody for me” = “I got splinters in my knuckles crawling across the floor” , “we always walked a very thin line” = fine line (his new album), then at the end she say “so many signs, so many time” = sign of the times. I just thought this was crazy similarities and I don’t think the song is necessarily about him but maybe it’s another layer????

    • @isabellaazevedo3205
      @isabellaazevedo3205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the first time I listen to "we always walked a very thin line" my brain was like: oh, Harry styles!!! Lol

    • @cozy.living
      @cozy.living 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If Harry Styles is William Bowery, my head will explode.

    • @izzynatalie3607
      @izzynatalie3607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HONEY !!!!! BEHEAD ME !!!!! DONT DO THIS TO ME !!!!!!

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      look... it has crossed our minds that William Bowery could be Harry but I try not to get too carried away haha... These are all really interesting points, I just don't think Taylor would still be writing about their break up in this way though, do you know what I mean? its been so long... but if he is William then that would make sense ehhh I don't know 🙈- B

  • @huzzzy9168
    @huzzzy9168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In school I got to write a research paper on anything I wanted and I chose folklore by Taylor swift. I used ur vid to help me with it and I got an A. So THANK YOU

    • @maya_htrabkcah
      @maya_htrabkcah ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uhhhh sounds like the kind of assignment I would looooveee
      Kinda jealous I never got to write about taylor in any way in school assignments like it just never fitted... I however weaved in some lyrics in my final exam ahahaha

  • @stephaniejohnson2180
    @stephaniejohnson2180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This whole channel is superior 🌟

  • @maddysmith8589
    @maddysmith8589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    exile is such a beautiful word to have used, because when someone’s exiled it’s from their native country, it’s essentially from home so if she’s referring to scott it links perfectly

  • @mymodernmantra7778
    @mymodernmantra7778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I feel like that lyric in Exile “like you’d get your knuckles bloody for me” is almost more sarcastic. Like, “as if you’d actually fight for me if it came down to that.” Which, Scooter obviously did not.

  • @davidsantos5942
    @davidsantos5942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Re: Cardigan “Leaving like a father, running like water” can also reference Scott. Like she considered her as a father figure but he betrayed her.

  • @aoifesharkey7955
    @aoifesharkey7955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love that I went from only knowing Taylor’s biggest singles to watching a four part breakdown of one album in six months

  • @avikasingh389
    @avikasingh389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow u guys...right now i was jst reading abt folklore lyrics n their references on genius...n then u post this video...woahhh!!!

  • @eliza_maeve
    @eliza_maeve 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    literally three years late but peter losing wendy is such a powerful lyric because james refused to grow up (i'm only seventeen i don't know anything) while betty was so mature (when you are young they assume you know nothing). also betty lists off so many things she knew about james (every chorus is different) but augustine only knew him for a summer so she doesn't know about those small details that betty's picked up on.

  • @linds.e.k
    @linds.e.k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s so entertaining and amazing watching this video from 2 years ago from the Midnights era perspective and how spot on you were about some of these insights!

  • @nargesseyedin4132
    @nargesseyedin4132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel is everything I needed since I was a 12 year old obsessed with taylor swift who no one understood🥺😍

  • @SolRodino
    @SolRodino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When emily said “people don’t ponder people don’t walk” when talking about the tlgad bridge I was 💀💀 I love your reactions ❤️

  • @hannelore9189
    @hannelore9189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Aaah, this is everything i needed right now! I love you two and I love Taylor Swift!!! Thank you for so selflessly making this channel and making everyone's day better because of it !!! Also, a music suggestion: I really love listening to Dizzy right now, and I think you would maybe like it as well, maybe you could react to their new album as well :) Thanks again and I love you

  • @DadaIVYyou
    @DadaIVYyou ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Coming back at that time when we all didn’t know who William Bowery was is so funny 😂

  • @michellemiller2626
    @michellemiller2626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Literally been waiting for this video since the very first one. And firstly, I cannot wait for the other two parts. I love the mastery of story telling in this album.
    And Bonnie!! “I feel the complexity and the heaviness of this album... that’s life. Life has all those moments.”
    YESSSS!

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 so glad you enjoy!! -b xx

  • @PalavrasQueEcoam
    @PalavrasQueEcoam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s 5 a.m here in Brazil but here we go. Super excited to see this video 🖤

  • @laurynbrown7088
    @laurynbrown7088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am in the process of watching all of your videos and it would be a crazy concept to think that since Rebekah died in 1982 and Taylor was born 7 years later that she's like a reincarnation of her or something!! I thought of that as you guys were discussing TLGAD and I had to voice it haha :)

  • @alisonswiftie4156
    @alisonswiftie4156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In addition to what you guys have said about TLGAD , I saw a tiktok of a girl who lives there in Rhode island and her house is so close to Taylor's and she said in it that the Rhole island people really hate taylor bcz the town used to be very quiet before when taylor decided to buy the house and started throwing "loud "parties more tourists and paparazzi were coming to see her house and may be they can see her or her "friends "and go to the beach next to her house and they called "that loud woman " who ruined their lives , so I thought that was important to know too bcz I think this is the main reason why she compares herself to Rebekah, love you girls your channel became my safe space ❤

  • @emmab5928
    @emmab5928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have no swiftie friends and especially not during the pandemic. I processed the albums solo with a bottle of wine 🥂
    I wish I would’ve found these then, but so glad to have found you two now!! Excuse me while I binge 💜💜

  • @dmsjt5181
    @dmsjt5181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ok, so as far as the “Peter losing Wendy” thing goes, I don’t think that Wendy was actually superior. They just weren’t right for each other. It was inevitable that they couldn’t last. She couldn’t exist in his world forever and he couldn’t exist in hers. The tragedy in it was that they loved each other and it couldn’t work; and how painful is that? When that happens it feels like a slap in the face. You find yourself asking “what was even the point of loving each other?”. I wonder if there’s a component of finding out what parts of yourself you can’t compromise to be with someone else, and that’s how you find out who you truly are.

  • @divyasakura1604
    @divyasakura1604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my safe space, and thank you for always doing long videos.

  • @sam73322
    @sam73322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love watching your videos while cooking or cleaning, it feels like I‘m vibing with two good friends to Taylor Swift and talking about all the theories and meanings of the lyrics 🥰

  • @Carolina-ec7rz
    @Carolina-ec7rz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I cried on "i knew you'd hunt all of my what ifs" SUCH A FEELING. You have no idea how much i enjoy this videos ❤️❤️❤️

  • @kirstenr.9706
    @kirstenr.9706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you haven’t already, listen to Light Years by The National and then listen to Cardigan. You can definitely hear Aaron in both as he writes such beautiful music 👍🏻

  • @mariamalthani8120
    @mariamalthani8120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in the last great american dynasty when she says “they say she was seen on occasion, pacing the rocks staring out at the midnight sea” as in this woman (rebekah) was pondering a lot and that this was seen as almost “odd” or “irrational” (or else why would they point it out?!!) THEN.... taylor changes the lyric and says “who knows if i never showed up what could’ve been?” SHE IS NOW THE ONE PONDERING. taylor literally embodies rebekah to the point where she asks herself the same question!!!! also the question of “who knows if i never showed up what could have been” reminds me of the 1 a little because she asks herself so many “what if” questions about her exes.. like what if this ended like this instead of that etc..
    loved this video soooo much girls 💗 can’t wait for the next parts!!!!!

  • @thegirlatnumber43
    @thegirlatnumber43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The other day I accidentally listened to the 1 after Death By A Thousand Cuts and OMG.......it's the perfect sequel!!

  • @cupcakewithouttheicing
    @cupcakewithouttheicing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so wild that you guys didn't know that William Bowery was Joe at the time omg. so much has happened
    It was also interesting to think about "you're a flashback in a film reel on the one screen in my town" after you pointed out the film motif

  • @maya_htrabkcah
    @maya_htrabkcah ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys starting with wondering who tf william bowery is and how he probably doesn't really know her is hilarious in hindsight haha

  • @lauraopassos
    @lauraopassos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SUPERIOR CONTENT!!! I was dying to watch this video and you did not disappoint!! Also I loved the fact that you listened to us and you are giving us the full version. I never thought The 1 might be to Harry but I really like that line of thinking. And OMFG never in a million years would I consider the "fan layer" in Cardigan. Also Exile being about her label???? MY MIND IS OFFICIALLY BLOWN. Never would have crossed my mind. Great video and I look forward to part 2 💕

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! So glad you loved!!! 🥰 - Em

  • @baileyp9154
    @baileyp9154 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Um... Did Bonnie predict the eras tour?!? 19:54 This is so fun to watch after Midnights!

  • @C-Iris
    @C-Iris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Girls, I'm just catching up on folklore and evermore era (I know, how could I have gone this whole time without enjoying this 2 albums? 😅) But I just wanted to say that I really enjoy watching you being so excited and being such knowledgeable and apologetic Swifties. Thank you for making me feel good about liking an artist so much and helping me to get back into Taylor's world.

  • @theadventuresofarlo_
    @theadventuresofarlo_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like thinking about exile in three layers- the relatable break up love story, the whole music scam situation and then her telling a story about someone else’s perspective and I think the way you are able to interpret each song in many different ways adds to its superiority ✨👌🏼💗

  • @ellemeagan
    @ellemeagan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was amazing, can't wait for part 2! I will never get over how we got blessed with such an amazing genius human in our lifetime 😭❤️

  • @shreyachaudhary1249
    @shreyachaudhary1249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg I can watch 400 hours of your footage chats and reacts. I love this 3part format and I fucking love to see deep analysis so please don't be doubtful about that. Love you guys so much 💗

  • @thesjh
    @thesjh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the folklore breakdown in full, am so looking forward to what ever T blesses us with next and the following content here. Though 1989 TV also means we hopefully get a breakdown of the Live concert from the Sydney performance video from these legends who were there in person. Also how awesome is Bonny's "Lover" nail polish!

  • @BeckywiseTheDancingClown
    @BeckywiseTheDancingClown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun fact Rebecca actually dyed a cat key lime green but Taylor changed the lyric to dog because she loves cats so much

  • @fraalfau5283
    @fraalfau5283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m 16 min in and I just know that I’ll rewatch this Over and over until you upload part 2😅

  • @alero96
    @alero96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the fact that you guys are doing this in 3 parts because I really want to hear your complete analysis. Love your channel, greetings from Paraguay 🇵🇾❤️

  • @jorjam6690
    @jorjam6690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been eagerly waiting for this from you two SUPERIOR humans about a SUPERIOR queen 🤩 I love your Taylor breakdowns and they bring me so much joy, especially seeing as you both share the same love for her as I do. Can’t wait for part 2 and 3 now Bonny and Emily! xx

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awww thank you so much, we are so glad you love it!!! - Em

  • @aliassad2376
    @aliassad2376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think the line "leaving like a father running like a water"ties with the song seven,that childhood friend that Taylor had ,had a messed up father who always makes trouble so it maybe referens that Betty is the childhood friend!!!! What do you think ?
    Also Great analyse enjoyed it very much thank u❤

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, I have always thought about this too... there are sooo many layers 😭- B

    • @isabellaseidman4404
      @isabellaseidman4404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chatsandreacts I’m obsessed with you two

  • @MaddyRadtke
    @MaddyRadtke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got stars tattooed on my elbow for cardigan, had to come back and rewatch this.

  • @jerylenebeaalvaran2987
    @jerylenebeaalvaran2987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG FIRST FINALLY!!!!! my favorite duo 😍💘 miss you guys keep safe always 😘 Taylor said she's gonna re record all of her old albums this November and im so excited 🎉😍 and for ur reaction also 💗

  • @kristenbatye1978
    @kristenbatye1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This. channel. is... EVERYTHING I have needed in my life. Thank you THANKYOUTHANKYOU

  • @michellemiller2626
    @michellemiller2626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Love how much she references film, movie theaters, “understudy” and two (that I’ve noticed) films in the album in particular.
    Cardigan
    “Peter losing Wendy” obviously Peter Pan / Hook
    Seven
    “your dad is always mad... and we can be pirates” Peter Pan / Hook
    “Pack your dolls and a sweater, we’ll move to India forever” The little princess (1995 version)

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’re so right!!!! LOVE this!!! - Em

    • @brunetteXer
      @brunetteXer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i wondered what that India thing meant, thank you!

  • @dmsjt5181
    @dmsjt5181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “The smell of smoke would hang around this long, ‘cause I knew everything when I was young”. What if it’s like “I burned this and thought I’d forget it and it would be over. But even though it’s gone, the smoke from what I burned is STILL here.” And how she says after, “ ‘cause I knew everything when I was young”. What if that part was almost sarcastic and self deprecating. Like, “I knew everything when I was young. I knew I could burn this and it would be over and I could move on, but crap, I was wrong. The smoke is still lingering and I’m still trapped by the memories. It was so much easier when I was young and I knew ‘everything’ ”. But then if you think about how she said “running like water”, it’s not stagnant water that has endless ripples (which would be similar to the smell of smoke lingering for this long), it just passes through and moves on. I think there’s juxtaposition going on there. Sometimes something happens and you just move on and it’s like it was no big deal, and other times you’re sure you’re going to be over something once you just do _________ , but it’s still there anyway.

    • @ashleighbourne7670
      @ashleighbourne7670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      this level of genius should be studied in schools instead of shakespeare omg. I love this analysis x

  • @lizzc.1035
    @lizzc.1035 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also I need to mention how in Exile, Bon says "You were my town" and she says " You were my crown" because it shows the dinamic of the relationship. For me it's a little bit like the "You kept me like a secret but I kept you like an oath". Like she just cared so much more than this person and even maybe putting him in a pedestal and falling so much harder when he hurt her 😭 And from his perspective everything he did was for her but in some ways without her cause she wasn't in the same "level" as she was, like he was the king and she didn't deserve a seat at the table.

  • @elliemertes2400
    @elliemertes2400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how you guys know your facts. I learned so much from this!

  • @gabbydilullo6414
    @gabbydilullo6414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cried twice bc I was so shook! CHILLS LITERAL CHILLS AT THESE CONNECTIONS REVELATIONS EVERYTHING

    • @chatsandreacts
      @chatsandreacts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OMG LOVE YOUUUUUU 🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍😍 - Em

  • @saraendestad4945
    @saraendestad4945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK, I clicked SO FAST when I saw this video was out! YOU GUYS ARE SO SUPERIOR!

  • @caterinazavala8867
    @caterinazavala8867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait hold please…everything you just said about Exile and it leading into my tears ricochet just f*!k me up. Sorry but yeah. I am mind blown.

  • @SaraH-hs9wo
    @SaraH-hs9wo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sooooo excited for the next 2 parts of this!! I love how deep into the details you ladies go with your analysis! :)
    While watching this video, I had a thought about the lyric "you drew stars around my scars".. I was thinking that she could also be referring to how the fans loving and relating to her music helped turned her music (written about things/events in her life that have given her scars) into what made her a star. And the line "now I'm bleeding" could be her asking the fans to help her heal from this new hurt of what's happened with her masters, which will leave yet another scar on her. It could also tie into "if you never bleed you're never going to grow" from the 1, showing that she's hurting right now, but will grow and be ok in time.

  • @jennifersteen5866
    @jennifersteen5866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I always wondered if the "leaving like a father" lyric is a nod to the fact that Taylor's dad was also a shareholder in BM records etc. and what his role may have been in all of the disputs and things....There are too many layers to this album and all the songs, like I just cannot even believe it exists its too perfect ahha

    • @lesliemiller1757
      @lesliemiller1757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Her parents have divorced for years.

  • @dani.p
    @dani.p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the format, love the reaction, looking forward to see you talking about other albums :)
    I would LOOOVE to see you react to some Harry Styles and Lorde.
    Regards from Chile!

  • @zeynep-turkoglu
    @zeynep-turkoglu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great to have this cut into three parts, I love listening to your long discussions! Great video as always, I can't wait for the next ones ❤️❤️❤️

  • @themedicdroidx10
    @themedicdroidx10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think ‘leaving like a father, running like water’ is referring to James running away from a good thing and even though she knew him and could see that it might happen that way before it did, she still knew she wouldn’t be able to forget him even so.

  • @LyssaAmidalaxo
    @LyssaAmidalaxo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it’s the way this album starts with the open struggles and masking them, the middle of the album is grieving something that’s falling and the end is pretty much acceptance.

  • @neiwezolohe7206
    @neiwezolohe7206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these girls so much.
    Sending you lots of love all the way from India. ❤

  • @chris.lintz_
    @chris.lintz_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YOU GUYSSS- i knew i had SO MANY things i missed from this BEAUTIFUL album, TYSM FOR ENLIGHTENING ME HUHU sml

  • @valeriamarrerodiaz1911
    @valeriamarrerodiaz1911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you guys are great ! I feel like you're letting your feelings out and it's great! you have a lot of potential to keep going as long as you have your blueberries. also, having fam

  • @alwaysamused979
    @alwaysamused979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bonnie's recap of the whole owning her music situation is one of the best I've heard - incorporates the facts as well as the emotions. Well done girl.

  • @janinemariec
    @janinemariec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    didn’t think I could love folklore even more until now. thank you for this video can’t wait for the others!!!🤍