@@TECHN01200 Tbh the top exhaust is laughably bad, pretty much a no go for Watercooling unless you want to intake hot air into your PC with front mount cooler.
I like the sectioned look of the glass and the basement, it almost looks like something from old Caselabs. But the lack of radiator support, especially compared to my Phanteks P500A, where I have a 360mm and 420mm at the same time in a similar form factor.
Definitely, this black and white look is something I wouldn't consider normally, but on this one it looks great. Wish they had changed the top panel to either be closed or bigger for at least 280mm support. Putting just one fan up there looks kinda unfortunate actually
I remember going through IG stories and seeing an NZXT qna type thing and someone asked for a good airflow case, the guy who responded said something along the lines of: No, you get design or you get airflow. Super freaking happy to see NZXT make this case although I want to see one that also comes with RGB fans like the H510 Elite.
6:33 the "splitter" I think may actually be TRS to single channel 3.5mm. A little research and yes, it's for splitting TRS for a headset with two Jack's
2:33 : no, no you're right. That case is basically the H510 Elite with perforated panel instead of glass. That's. It. You could remove the front glass panel exactly like you can remove the mesh on this one. Out of all their cases, this is probably the one that required the less design time, and tooling. Because 95% of the case was already there. If they don't sell mesh panels for H510 Elite users to swap with the glass panel (like Phanteks did when they released the P400A), they're dicks. Although, because of the design, you can't swap the standard H510 (or H500) panels at all, and the H510 Elite was way too pricey so that's a smaller demographc compared to the tons and tons of H510 that have been sold
@@danr8267 I have the H510 elite and I mainly bought it because of the Rgb with the glassfront also being a strong point, but since I bought the case I started to regret my decision and an upgrade like this, while still keeping the rgbs would be great
@@NeedForSpeedTheRunForTheWii on the same boat, wanted the rgb fans and the controller, didn’t care too much for the glass front. I would love to be able to buy the mesh front separately, i hate the temps on my build because of this case
I got the H510 Elite and pretty sure the front glass panel can't be removed without drilling out rivets, would be nice to have an option for a mesh front but honestly thermals aren't bad even with a 5900x & 3090 inside, just gotta clean the dust filters more often. The only differences I could see over the Elite is the mesh front, no included vertical GPU slot & smaller cable channel/gap on the back part.
@@Dean_adams Mine has two little screws that you remove, and then you can pop out the front glass (exactly like the mesh in this new case). I run mine without the glass fairly often.
It's good to hear someone giving a voice to air cooling and its community. I have only had a fan fail when its bearings ran out once. Otherwise I find I have a few extra fans on hand because of changes in cases. And when I have recycled a couple cases their fans were still good and I kept them for future use. And I am not a TH-camr with a bunch of extra parts on hand. So I guess you could say only fan club I have is mechanical...
Ive been building in the H510 for years without any issues. And while yes, it can be better airflow wise, the stock fans simply do not provide enough CFM. Using proper 140mm fans made for throughput work fine. That being said, if the price is right with the Flow, i'll switch to it (because the design is better) unless someone asks specifically for a closed front
Oh I see why his complaining didn't sit right with me. I use redux Noctuas and get great results. I also don't use 250W gpus or whatever he's talking about not being a good fit for the case. It's a bit insane to expect nzxt to have predicted such an increase in power consumption and airflow requirements years in advance especially when the replacement is literally right in front of you. That part of the video really felt annoying.
@@joeykeilholz925 yeah. Nzxt also never marketed the h510 as an airflow case so i dont see why people complain about its airflow. Its not what its for. If you are building a pc with overpowered components your temps will be a little high, so dont do it. But if you want looks, small size, with decent enough components, you cant beat the h510
Whoever wrote this script also didnt bother mentioning the negative pressure setup that allows the GPU to draw in air through the expansion slots, the gamers nexus review for the H500 which is pretty much the same case had middle of the chart GPU temps (though the cpu was not great).
Warning to those considering this case: "Tight screws" = over-torquing! I actually had to RMA my H710i because those "tight screws from the factory" were actually over-torqued. It completely stripped all of my PCIe slots to the point where I did a single motherboard replacement and they could no longer support cards or even the slot cover. I got a replacement case and carefully unscrewed the PCIe slots, and that resulted in metal shards coming out from the screws eating at the metal. Something's really off about their quality control (wouldn't be a surprise to many after the PCIe riser fire issue). Just food for thought.
I have an NZXT H500 and ive had similar issues, it shipped with a small dent and all of the thumb screws were crooked and half stripped, and half since become mostly useless for securing the front and back panel. Sadly i was desperate to get a computer working and didnt send it back.
@@How23497 Right like Apple might not be "DIY friendly" but the amount of design effort they put into their computers is pretty unreal, and the quality of the materials they use is surprisingly good. Like, seriously. Too bad they hate letting their customers do anything to their products!
Insulting my case in the beginning...yeah...you're right. Really enjoyed the host. Not even looking for a case at the moment but watched the whole video because he kept me entertained.
so does it have enough of airflow for like a 5600g and a 1650 or 1660? because I want to build a 5600g system with intention to buy a gpu once the prices calm down and i really love this case aesthetics.
I’ve never had a problem with temps in my h510 with aio in the front. If this case had been available at the time I bought mine though I would have gone with this one. Most mesh cases aren’t minimal enough in their design for me but this one is perfect.
I would have bought this then as well, but instead got an H510. Mounted a 240mm AIO in the front and it was fine, until I replaced my 2070 Super with a 3080 Strix OC. Then it got a little hot (at least while I was mining in the off hours), and I only had about 1mm-2mm clearance between the GPU and the radiator. The next best looking case I could find with decent airflow of a similar size was the Corsair 4000D airflow. Decent case, but not as good looking and the glass side panel is dark tinted instead of clear. And it looks like the side on this 510 flow is also dark tinted. Shame.
I've got a H510i and I agree, my setup is similar but i've modded a case fan into the bottom of it to pull colder air in for the GPU, but this isn't really needed imo. I just have a crazy OC on my 2060 super.
Me neither no problem at all with temps. My aio in front is ok. One thing is, i had to unmount the vertical colored plate to make space for my Asus rog strix 1070ti.
the hate train for the H510 is stupid. people took the H510 elite review from GN and branded that to all NZXT cases. H510 elite had a dumb issue to cause it to have poor thermals. Gamers Nexus gave the H510 budget case of the year. this host put no effort into even looking up the H510 and just said its bad when its far from it, lol.
I started a new build last winter and loved the look of the H510 and the type C port on the front panel but hated the airflow. I ended up with the Phanteks P360A and can recommend it. Looks good to me and obviously has way better airflow. Their higher end cases are great as well but I wanted something that could fit my standard ATX board but wasn't way bigger since I didn't need the extra space and put the computer on a cabinet next to my desk. My only advice for this case is to run the CPU power and case fan cables and anything else that goes on the top of the board in advance because I installed my tower CPU cooler first and it was a very tight reach to plug anything above it in
I have a full custom loop (1080ti, r7 3700x), with a kinda thicc 240mm & 120mm rads built in a regular h500i, because I love how the case looks, and how dense I was able to get the build to be. I would love to switch to the h510 flow for better cooling
Can you do a test between the 2? - I've been using a H510 for a while now with no thermal issues. Has this been proven or is is just presumed by looking at it. As for the look of it - the older model looks good because of the white front. Swapping it for a mesh brings it down aesthetically. It seems that is looks a lot worse and only performs a little better but costs a lot more
Yeah... I have a box fan slapped on the side of the thing to keep my stuff cool. DEFINITELY gonna keep this one in consideration for my case upgrade path
Does he though? Constantly talking about how bad the H510 supposedly is when testing have shown otherwise. How there should be 2 fan slots in the top of the case when there's been plenty of testing done that having more than 1 doesn't actually improve temperatures. Seems like he has a lot of opinions not rooted in anything but feelings.
Can’t wait to grab this case and get my parts out of the hot box that is the h210. Idk what I was thinking going for a mini build. The aio I bought had my cpu hotter then the stock cooler so that hurt the temps having to use the prism cooler still but isn’t bad but the temps I’m just not comfortable with
I took the plunge and bought a Phanteks p600s a couple years back when I bought most of my new pc parts. yes it was about $280 dollarydoos, but every time ive had to open the case to upgrade has been a dream! Can deinitely agree with the sentiment of spending a bit more on a case to have a better ime building. Noctua D15 chromax FTW.
Corsair 4000d airflow is also a really solid choice, I managed to get mine on sale for 60 euros, and it's excellent. The front panel also feels way more solid than on the meshify c
I have two of the old NZXT510 cases. One of which I broke the glass on day one. I have 140 industrial on the top. It helps. I am running two video cards in each - mining. So far so good.
I built a competent gaming/VR rig in the H510 in December 2019 and the cooling is fine. I value quiet, and I would absolutely buy the H510 again over something like this with an open front. If needed insane components that require more cooling, the insane cost of those components would also justify an expensive case that could cool them without without an open front grill.
Well, according to gn youd want something like that lian li case that uses 240ml fans in the front cuz they can spin slow and so are quiet despite the front mesh. Easy airflow is quieter than forced airflow with sound dampening. But yeah, people crap on the h510 way more than they should
I have an H510 with a 3600 & 5600XT. Temps are fine, both max out at about 70C though it is not a power-hungry setup. Two 140's in the front & a single 120 in the back. The only annoyance I have is that I get dust collect at the outside of the PCI-E brackets. That hints that the back 120 can move more air than the front double 140s
I've got the H510 all air cooled with 4 fan on the case and it works pretty well. And it's with a 5600x and a 3070, so it's not that bad. Don't remember the temps but it was clearly good with no throlling,
I've built about 5 H510s, and they're just fine. The trick is running a negative pressure setup. A good 140mm in the top and it's great. I also had an arctic freezer II 120mm on the back and it was wonderful.
No, NZXT doesn't make many outrageously expensive cases. But other brands make cases in the same segment as NZXT, just as price-competitive. These other manufacturers also make more expensive cases however. People see those more expensive cases and then go on to complain that all the cases are expensive. In reality, they simply don't look for the more price-competitve cases of those manufacturers.
Lian Li has more aesthetically pleasing cases in the same price range. Their Lancool 2 Mesh is the same price as this case with much more airflow and upgradability. It is a pretty big case though. If you are going to build in a small case you should expect to see higher temps
Theyre cheap but with the meshify costing a bit more it leaves itself behind imo theres just a few things that keep it from being a great case the building looks to have a few pain points and the top needs at least enough space for 2 fans
@@jmykle994 I've been looking to move from standard atx to micro but have had trouble finding a good looking micro ATX case that also has the features I need. Seems I have to compromise on one or the other but it's been a few months since I've last looked
I removed the front air filter from my h510i a long time ago and I get fantastic airflow. Also, a 120 on the top and back are way more than enough fan spots, considering there's only 2 front intake. for someone who cares so much about positive air pressure im surprised he cares so much about having more exhausts. Also, the audio splitter is for the front audio jack. I always lose mine so its nice they include it
I just bought this case before researching and everyone keeps complaining and so i’m worried. do you recommend buying two more fans? how do i remove the air filter? im thinking of moving the two stock fans as intake fans and then buying a 140 for the top and a 120 for the rear and use both as an exhaust. i would like to know your setup concerning fans. i’m a complete beginner so let me know
@@1nate2 I have a i7 8700k cooled with 240mm radiator mounted on the front as intake, and a 3060ti. I put a 120mm noctua fan on the back as exhaust, so 3 fans total. My pc draws around 400watts at max load, and this is plenty to keep temps cool. The air filter is super easy to remove, the side one must be removed from the inside of the case, and the bottom one I think can be done from outside the case. Personally, unless you’re on a budget, I would get 2 good fans for the front as intake, then put the stock fans on the back and top
@@millefeuille8851 Thank you I was able to remove them now. I was considering buying two 140mm noctua fans for good airflow but didn’t know where I should place them. I will definitely try put them at the front for intake and use the stock ones as exhaust. Hopefully this and the removed air filters will do the trick. Thanks for the help
I'm pretty sure you were trying to use a radiator mount to secure a zip tie. Also, the velcro strap is supposed to be removed from the buckle to pass the cables under it, and then you strap it again. That way it will not come off.
Just like how lian li released better airflow version of their o11 dynamic mini, i still think that nothing can beat the aesthetic of having the glass front panel. I'm using h510 elite with z63 & still happy with 65c while gaming. Wonder how better can i get with this case tho. Anyway great review!
@@Mari-ir5ni jakefacecustoms! All u do when u get the plate is take off the side panels and remove the screws to get the front glass panel out and it should slide in
So would be getting this a big improvement over the regular NZXT H510? I got one one year ago for my new pc build and it was ok for my RX 5600 XT. But last week i got a RTX 3080 and noticed the glass panel getting pretty warm at 4k gaming. Just regular air cooling, no extras. GPU and CPU only getting to 70°C and 60°C per HWinFO but still... could be a problem.
If you do make a full video comparison, consider furniture obstructions. My PC’s front panel is against a wall. For my setup, I prefer case that pull fresh air from the right side.
Loved the video. But how the did you go all the way through it without showing the temperatures? It would be even nicer if you compared it to the old case to see the improvement.
From what I see from some case reviews, they claim the old front panel does not actually give much performance difference compared to new, what does LMG think about this?
Is air cooling viable in a room that gets up to 90°F in the summer? Or would liquid cooling work better? My dad doesn't like turning on the aircon unless I'm almost on the verge of passing out.
The reason that they haven't put a second fan mount/grille in the top of the case is because that bar that comes out to help hide the cable management prevents you from having room to install one. If you want a second fan up top then you have to go to the H710 series, which does a good job of preserving the look while giving slightly better cooling. They changed the shape of the bar to allow for a second fan to be top mounted (or even an AIO), and then added perforation around both sides and the top instead of just the one narrow spot on the back side. If they made one of those with a mesh front panel like the 510 airflow it would be a home run.
@ᶠᵘᶜ-ᵏ ᵐᵉ cнёcк ʍʏ ρяσfιℓ I had a 5600x and RTX 3080 OC in mine, and the temps were a little too high for comfort. Much better in a Corsair 4000D Airflow.
I just wanna know why the 120 fan for the NH-D14 is attached on the rear… butting right up to the case exhaust and serving little purpose, other than to generate noise via turbulence.
I built a PC for a friend last year in an H500 I got from Best Buy for $50. They have an I7-8700 and a 1070 ti and the temps were great. I certainly wouldn't recommend the case for a 30 series gpu but there are several other use case scenarios where the H500/H510 are viable and affordable cases. Relatively easy to build in and affordable for first time PC builders, plus it looks great
I've had the non-flow version for a couple of years now and I'm super happy about it. I'm running it with the stock 2 fans (back, top) (speed controllable btw) and an additional 2 fans on a AIO in the front. I have no problem with cooling at all. The opening on the side and bottom are plenty sufficient. It was also super easy to build and looks fantastic. Plus I bought the plus version with RGB because why not. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that I dissagree with his hatret towards this product. Also, who is this a-hole anyways?
this Airflow H510 is pretty cool, i have the original H510 with a 3060 Ti and a i5 10400 tho i havent seen any problems with Temps and almost had the case for a year, the GPU for about 6 months now, but the dust is a problem for sure tho, not sure if dust build up will be a big problem with the Airflow one
It's fine just has ok airflow. Not horrifying like described incorrectly here. Just don't use top of the line components and get aftermarket intake fans and you won't have problems.
@@joeykeilholz925 The H510 has horrible air flow if you compare it to a Meshify C for example. With a 3070 or 3080 rig that's atleast a 15C temp difference.
Well, he is right when he said you can put the radiator on the front of the case, but i wouldn't be easy.. Man i put a full rad and squeezed in two extra noctua fans ontop of the original rad ones and I'm very sure i obtained a few scratches inside the case along with the bruising n scratches on oneself.
Using an H510 with 5600x and 3070 as a workstation and gaming build and have had no issues with heat. I like that they change the front panel for more cooling but the standard H510 has been great for me personally.
Seriously, it's not much of an issue for me with a 3600 and ancient gtx 970 and I didn't think it would suddenly be terrible with higher TDP components assuming they aren't the absolute hottest. It's good they put a front mesh on. But the old case had good enough airflow for hardware in its time (even 2-3 years after release)
hai jeff, im about to build the same spec like u mention. so its safe for temp right for h510 case, right? any recommendation fan cooler or something? im newbie sorry, thankyou
i had to rewatch that front panel connector a few times. see, I upgraded a dell optiplex with all new internals. I actually modified a fan header to make my dell case power button work with my asus motherboard. shit's mint
I wish the cases had the FP connectors as a single connection like this, with an extension to allow them to be plugged in separately... I say that as I am running a duel socket supermicro board in my computer and it has a 10 pin FP header on it
I can't wait for Steve from GN to give this the most scathing praise
Gotta respect a man whose standards are higher than basically everything actually going on in the industry, unironically respect.
The front panel still wouldn't be enough hole...
@@TECHN01200 Tbh the top exhaust is laughably bad, pretty much a no go for Watercooling unless you want to intake hot air into your PC with front mount cooler.
Lmao yes. The brutally honest and the most heartbreaking reviews 😅
NZXT probably didn't send GN the case for an early review. A lot of tech tubers have already uploaded a video about this case at the same time.
I like the sectioned look of the glass and the basement, it almost looks like something from old Caselabs. But the lack of radiator support, especially compared to my Phanteks P500A, where I have a 360mm and 420mm at the same time in a similar form factor.
Definitely, this black and white look is something I wouldn't consider normally, but on this one it looks great. Wish they had changed the top panel to either be closed or bigger for at least 280mm support. Putting just one fan up there looks kinda unfortunate actually
Wait there’s no support for rads? I thought you could have a 280mm rad in the front although that isn’t much at all.
Lol I just imagine it having an intake fan the size of a screw
You mean like 1500 of them? Or like just 1?
I remember going through IG stories and seeing an NZXT qna type thing and someone asked for a good airflow case, the guy who responded said something along the lines of: No, you get design or you get airflow. Super freaking happy to see NZXT make this case although I want to see one that also comes with RGB fans like the H510 Elite.
Plouffe really doing a good job explaining his experience about this case
6:33 the "splitter" I think may actually be TRS to single channel 3.5mm.
A little research and yes, it's for splitting TRS for a headset with two Jack's
You mean TRRS, and yeah, that’s useful since not all headsets come with that adapter.
2:33 : no, no you're right. That case is basically the H510 Elite with perforated panel instead of glass. That's. It.
You could remove the front glass panel exactly like you can remove the mesh on this one. Out of all their cases, this is probably the one that required the less design time, and tooling. Because 95% of the case was already there.
If they don't sell mesh panels for H510 Elite users to swap with the glass panel (like Phanteks did when they released the P400A), they're dicks. Although, because of the design, you can't swap the standard H510 (or H500) panels at all, and the H510 Elite was way too pricey so that's a smaller demographc compared to the tons and tons of H510 that have been sold
The people who bought the elite case did so for the front glass panel. I doubt they care about this otherwise they paid a premium for nothing
@@danr8267 I have the H510 elite and I mainly bought it because of the Rgb with the glassfront also being a strong point, but since I bought the case I started to regret my decision and an upgrade like this, while still keeping the rgbs would be great
@@NeedForSpeedTheRunForTheWii on the same boat, wanted the rgb fans and the controller, didn’t care too much for the glass front. I would love to be able to buy the mesh front separately, i hate the temps on my build because of this case
I got the H510 Elite and pretty sure the front glass panel can't be removed without drilling out rivets, would be nice to have an option for a mesh front but honestly thermals aren't bad even with a 5900x & 3090 inside, just gotta clean the dust filters more often.
The only differences I could see over the Elite is the mesh front, no included vertical GPU slot & smaller cable channel/gap on the back part.
@@Dean_adams Mine has two little screws that you remove, and then you can pop out the front glass (exactly like the mesh in this new case). I run mine without the glass fairly often.
It's good to hear someone giving a voice to air cooling and its community. I have only had a fan fail when its bearings ran out once. Otherwise I find I have a few extra fans on hand because of changes in cases. And when I have recycled a couple cases their fans were still good and I kept them for future use. And I am not a TH-camr with a bunch of extra parts on hand. So I guess you could say only fan club I have is mechanical...
Ive been building in the H510 for years without any issues. And while yes, it can be better airflow wise, the stock fans simply do not provide enough CFM.
Using proper 140mm fans made for throughput work fine.
That being said, if the price is right with the Flow, i'll switch to it (because the design is better) unless someone asks specifically for a closed front
Oh I see why his complaining didn't sit right with me. I use redux Noctuas and get great results. I also don't use 250W gpus or whatever he's talking about not being a good fit for the case. It's a bit insane to expect nzxt to have predicted such an increase in power consumption and airflow requirements years in advance especially when the replacement is literally right in front of you. That part of the video really felt annoying.
@@joeykeilholz925 yeah. Nzxt also never marketed the h510 as an airflow case so i dont see why people complain about its airflow. Its not what its for. If you are building a pc with overpowered components your temps will be a little high, so dont do it. But if you want looks, small size, with decent enough components, you cant beat the h510
Whoever wrote this script also didnt bother mentioning the negative pressure setup that allows the GPU to draw in air through the expansion slots, the gamers nexus review for the H500 which is pretty much the same case had middle of the chart GPU temps (though the cpu was not great).
The price will be $110
2000s jank water cooling, i loved seeing the bare die jam jar "water blocks", they looked amazing too :)
Finally! If they release a H210 FLOW next, that would probably be my favorite SFF case
i really like this dude, sometimes after watching linus i need to take a break and listen to someone calm
Warning to those considering this case:
"Tight screws" = over-torquing!
I actually had to RMA my H710i because those "tight screws from the factory" were actually over-torqued. It completely stripped all of my PCIe slots to the point where I did a single motherboard replacement and they could no longer support cards or even the slot cover. I got a replacement case and carefully unscrewed the PCIe slots, and that resulted in metal shards coming out from the screws eating at the metal. Something's really off about their quality control (wouldn't be a surprise to many after the PCIe riser fire issue). Just food for thought.
I have an NZXT H500 and ive had similar issues, it shipped with a small dent and all of the thumb screws were crooked and half stripped, and half since become mostly useless for securing the front and back panel. Sadly i was desperate to get a computer working and didnt send it back.
NZXT is all show. All of their products are sub par overpriced crap. They're kinda like apple but somehow worse
liked and commented so that people see.
I've got the h550i (something like that lol). Be very very careful with the thumb screws especially on the vertical gpu slots!!!
@@How23497 Right like Apple might not be "DIY friendly" but the amount of design effort they put into their computers is pretty unreal, and the quality of the materials they use is surprisingly good. Like, seriously. Too bad they hate letting their customers do anything to their products!
It's not a splitter, its a audio and mic separator as the front jack is a combo jack which is unusual for PC cases, unlike Apple computers.
Litterally everywhere I have seen them they are still called spliiters.
It’s not a separator,its a audio and mic splitter as the front jack is a combo jack which is unusual for PC cases, unlike Apple computers.
Insulting my case in the beginning...yeah...you're right. Really enjoyed the host. Not even looking for a case at the moment but watched the whole video because he kept me entertained.
+1 I was thinking the same
Objectively speaking H500 and H510 have perfectly adequate cooling for most average PCs based on testing done by gamers Nexus.
@Bryce Czirr that's not an average PC
@Bryce Czirr that's what I said yes... it's also a midsize and budget friendly case.
so does it have enough of airflow for like a 5600g and a 1650 or 1660? because I want to build a 5600g system with intention to buy a gpu once the prices calm down and i really love this case aesthetics.
@@john_DT I think that counts as an average PC, I'd be concerned about getting a 3000 series card, although with some ducting that might be resolved.
@@john_DT easily
I’ve never had a problem with temps in my h510 with aio in the front. If this case had been available at the time I bought mine though I would have gone with this one. Most mesh cases aren’t minimal enough in their design for me but this one is perfect.
I would have bought this then as well, but instead got an H510. Mounted a 240mm AIO in the front and it was fine, until I replaced my 2070 Super with a 3080 Strix OC. Then it got a little hot (at least while I was mining in the off hours), and I only had about 1mm-2mm clearance between the GPU and the radiator. The next best looking case I could find with decent airflow of a similar size was the Corsair 4000D airflow. Decent case, but not as good looking and the glass side panel is dark tinted instead of clear. And it looks like the side on this 510 flow is also dark tinted. Shame.
I've got a H510i and I agree, my setup is similar but i've modded a case fan into the bottom of it to pull colder air in for the GPU, but this isn't really needed imo. I just have a crazy OC on my 2060 super.
Me neither no problem at all with temps. My aio in front is ok. One thing is, i had to unmount the vertical colored plate to make space for my Asus rog strix 1070ti.
the hate train for the H510 is stupid. people took the H510 elite review from GN and branded that to all NZXT cases. H510 elite had a dumb issue to cause it to have poor thermals. Gamers Nexus gave the H510 budget case of the year. this host put no effort into even looking up the H510 and just said its bad when its far from it, lol.
@@demonmit1390 What do you think about NZXT's streaming pc? It has a 3070, will I get temp issues? I'm thinking about getting it.
I started a new build last winter and loved the look of the H510 and the type C port on the front panel but hated the airflow. I ended up with the Phanteks P360A and can recommend it. Looks good to me and obviously has way better airflow. Their higher end cases are great as well but I wanted something that could fit my standard ATX board but wasn't way bigger since I didn't need the extra space and put the computer on a cabinet next to my desk. My only advice for this case is to run the CPU power and case fan cables and anything else that goes on the top of the board in advance because I installed my tower CPU cooler first and it was a very tight reach to plug anything above it in
I have a full custom loop (1080ti, r7 3700x), with a kinda thicc 240mm & 120mm rads built in a regular h500i, because I love how the case looks, and how dense I was able to get the build to be. I would love to switch to the h510 flow for better cooling
I have a H510 cause I didn't know any better, but I also have 30 series GPU (though only a 3070) and it's keeping Temps just fine lol
Same. I get 75 c on my 3070
Same here + 3900x nh D15 chromax
No no you must throw away now and consume new product.
It's ok if you don't have gddr6 equipped gpus
The old H500/H510 is more about negative pressure
On the hosting: well spoken, good opinions and talking points and good voice. A nature in front of the camera. Good review and I like his hosting.
hell yeah, nzxt cases are so sexy but the one thing stopping me from getting them is the airflow, this will definitely be in my next build
Holy shit NZXT woke up! what a time to be alive
Woahhh this case looks so nice
They need to bring back the micro ATX case man what the hell
Can you do a test between the 2? - I've been using a H510 for a while now with no thermal issues. Has this been proven or is is just presumed by looking at it.
As for the look of it - the older model looks good because of the white front. Swapping it for a mesh brings it down aesthetically.
It seems that is looks a lot worse and only performs a little better but costs a lot more
Such a relaxing voice! Good job!
Yeah... I have a box fan slapped on the side of the thing to keep my stuff cool.
DEFINITELY gonna keep this one in consideration for my case upgrade path
I love when Plouffe shows up in a video. He doesn't bullshit and knows what he is talking about.
Does he though? Constantly talking about how bad the H510 supposedly is when testing have shown otherwise. How there should be 2 fan slots in the top of the case when there's been plenty of testing done that having more than 1 doesn't actually improve temperatures. Seems like he has a lot of opinions not rooted in anything but feelings.
6:23 the audio splitter is for headsets with two jacks (mic/out), the case has only one combined jack.
Can’t wait to grab this case and get my parts out of the hot box that is the h210. Idk what I was thinking going for a mini build. The aio I bought had my cpu hotter then the stock cooler so that hurt the temps having to use the prism cooler still but isn’t bad but the temps I’m just not comfortable with
I took the plunge and bought a Phanteks p600s a couple years back when I bought most of my new pc parts. yes it was about $280 dollarydoos, but every time ive had to open the case to upgrade has been a dream! Can deinitely agree with the sentiment of spending a bit more on a case to have a better ime building.
Noctua D15 chromax FTW.
I think Fractal's meshify C is the best midrange case ever . Both in terms of looks and airflow.
True, I love my meshify c
Corsair 4000d airflow is also a really solid choice, I managed to get mine on sale for 60 euros, and it's excellent. The front panel also feels way more solid than on the meshify c
I like the p400 from phanteks.
P300A/ P360A if you are on a budget
I’ve got a Lancool II Mesh. It’s so good.
I have two of the old NZXT510 cases. One of which I broke the glass on day one. I have 140 industrial on the top. It helps. I am running two video cards in each - mining. So far so good.
I really hope NZXT do the same with the rest of their cases… I have the H210 and I wish it had a mesh front option
I built a competent gaming/VR rig in the H510 in December 2019 and the cooling is fine. I value quiet, and I would absolutely buy the H510 again over something like this with an open front. If needed insane components that require more cooling, the insane cost of those components would also justify an expensive case that could cool them without without an open front grill.
Well, according to gn youd want something like that lian li case that uses 240ml fans in the front cuz they can spin slow and so are quiet despite the front mesh. Easy airflow is quieter than forced airflow with sound dampening. But yeah, people crap on the h510 way more than they should
I have an H510 with a 3600 & 5600XT. Temps are fine, both max out at about 70C though it is not a power-hungry setup.
Two 140's in the front & a single 120 in the back. The only annoyance I have is that I get dust collect at the outside of the PCI-E brackets. That hints that the back 120 can move more air than the front double 140s
I've got the H510 all air cooled with 4 fan on the case and it works pretty well. And it's with a 5600x and a 3070, so it's not that bad. Don't remember the temps but it was clearly good with no throlling,
Same here, 3070 and 3700x. Temps are totally fine
It was atrocious with my 3080 in one, even with fans at max speed. The new gddr6x is the main issue
@@xuyukun123 So what do you think about NZXT streaming pc? It has a 3070, will I get temp issues?
@@idkidk2573 it's a 3070 it will be fine as long as you don't shove it in a sealed box
@@xuyukun123 Alright thanks 🤣🤣
I really like this guy. No nonsense and straight up I think :)
I like case reviews, and I also like this guy for that job.
I've built about 5 H510s, and they're just fine. The trick is running a negative pressure setup. A good 140mm in the top and it's great. I also had an arctic freezer II 120mm on the back and it was wonderful.
Do u know the default fan sizes it comes with from nzxt
NZXT seems to be the only case manufacturer around that still makes great looking cases that are very price competitive, at least in my experience.
No, NZXT doesn't make many outrageously expensive cases. But other brands make cases in the same segment as NZXT, just as price-competitive. These other manufacturers also make more expensive cases however.
People see those more expensive cases and then go on to complain that all the cases are expensive. In reality, they simply don't look for the more price-competitve cases of those manufacturers.
Lian Li has more aesthetically pleasing cases in the same price range. Their Lancool 2 Mesh is the same price as this case with much more airflow and upgradability. It is a pretty big case though. If you are going to build in a small case you should expect to see higher temps
@@Thunterise if you know of any decent Micro-ATX cases that don't look god awful please let me know.
Theyre cheap but with the meshify costing a bit more it leaves itself behind imo theres just a few things that keep it from being a great case the building looks to have a few pain points and the top needs at least enough space for 2 fans
@@jmykle994 I've been looking to move from standard atx to micro but have had trouble finding a good looking micro ATX case that also has the features I need. Seems I have to compromise on one or the other but it's been a few months since I've last looked
I removed the front air filter from my h510i a long time ago and I get fantastic airflow. Also, a 120 on the top and back are way more than enough fan spots, considering there's only 2 front intake. for someone who cares so much about positive air pressure im surprised he cares so much about having more exhausts. Also, the audio splitter is for the front audio jack. I always lose mine so its nice they include it
I just bought this case before researching and everyone keeps complaining and so i’m worried. do you recommend buying two more fans? how do i remove the air filter? im thinking of moving the two stock fans as intake fans and then buying a 140 for the top and a 120 for the rear and use both as an exhaust. i would like to know your setup concerning fans. i’m a complete beginner so let me know
@@1nate2 I have a i7 8700k cooled with 240mm radiator mounted on the front as intake, and a 3060ti. I put a 120mm noctua fan on the back as exhaust, so 3 fans total. My pc draws around 400watts at max load, and this is plenty to keep temps cool. The air filter is super easy to remove, the side one must be removed from the inside of the case, and the bottom one I think can be done from outside the case. Personally, unless you’re on a budget, I would get 2 good fans for the front as intake, then put the stock fans on the back and top
@@millefeuille8851 Thank you I was able to remove them now. I was considering buying two 140mm noctua fans for good airflow but didn’t know where I should place them. I will definitely try put them at the front for intake and use the stock ones as exhaust. Hopefully this and the removed air filters will do the trick. Thanks for the help
I'm pretty sure you were trying to use a radiator mount to secure a zip tie. Also, the velcro strap is supposed to be removed from the buckle to pass the cables under it, and then you strap it again. That way it will not come off.
This dude knows how to complain and nitpick. I can tell you that
good, that way manufacturers can improve their design
Yeah, this is a review so they should give their honest opinion. This is a much more mellow then the review that Dawid had for the same case.
This dude knows how to complain and nitpick. I can tell you that
A bot just copied you from another comment… they’re evolving!
I mean the original model the front is just a solid wall no airflow at all
Ideally you would want positive air pressure in the case so that dust couldn't creep in through unfiltered holes.
Just like how lian li released better airflow version of their o11 dynamic mini, i still think that nothing can beat the aesthetic of having the glass front panel. I'm using h510 elite with z63 & still happy with 65c while gaming. Wonder how better can i get with this case tho. Anyway great review!
The old H500/510 had a strip on the side and bottom. Two rear fans. But I agree, for beefier rigs you need air flow
nice case - i fixed my breathing problem by adding a front mesh panel from ColdZero to my H510 Elite 😄
From my understanding they use one fan mount at the top so the cable management bar doesn't get hit. But you can remove the bar.
I have a h510 elite with a 5800x and a 3080ti both air cooled, and I have no issues with temps. I’m really happy with it.
I hope they make a mesh front for the H700i/H710i, and that they sell it standalone.
@9:24 THANK you for calling out that headroom, such a pain on all H510 models
what is the filter like? is it nylon? would you say that it is around 100 or 150 mesh? could you elaborate a bit on that?
I need this for my h510 elite, hoping the part can be purchased separately.
I bought a custom front panel off etsy and my temps were better than the glass front and doesnt look too shabby
@@ReggieRozay619 what was the name of the seller you bought from? jakefacecustoms? those look so good
@@Mari-ir5ni jakefacecustoms! All u do when u get the plate is take off the side panels and remove the screws to get the front glass panel out and it should slide in
So would be getting this a big improvement over the regular NZXT H510? I got one one year ago for my new pc build and it was ok for my RX 5600 XT. But last week i got a RTX 3080 and noticed the glass panel getting pretty warm at 4k gaming. Just regular air cooling, no extras. GPU and CPU only getting to 70°C and 60°C per HWinFO but still... could be a problem.
If you do make a full video comparison, consider furniture obstructions. My PC’s front panel is against a wall. For my setup, I prefer case that pull fresh air from the right side.
Everytime I see Nicholas, I think of Viva La Dirt League. Great host, btw. Very clear and calm speech and voice.
wish they'd just sell the mesh panel for the front, the old h510 has a removable front panel with the same mounting for fans
Loved the video. But how the did you go all the way through it without showing the temperatures? It would be even nicer if you compared it to the old case to see the improvement.
From what I see from some case reviews, they claim the old front panel does not actually give much performance difference compared to new, what does LMG think about this?
Had a h510 elite. Was perfectly fine when I ran a 1070. Then upgraded to a 3090.
And then switched to Corsair 5000d airflow.
I lost the screw for the front glass on the elite so whenever it's toasty I'll just pop it off and clean it a little more often.
Man this guy explains real nice I wanna see him more 💙
Something is telling me he is the biggest nerd at the office!
@@Inevitabledreamss Bruh 👀
@@Ash_1277 Being a nerd is a good thing, no?
@@Inevitabledreamss yup
I have the old case. I air cool and it's fine. I did change the fans. It was easy to build in.
just ordered a custom pc from them glad the airflow is good
Takes me back to the days of considering doing a Dremel cut to glue some mesh on my S340. I ended up just yeeting the panel entirely.
Is air cooling viable in a room that gets up to 90°F in the summer? Or would liquid cooling work better? My dad doesn't like turning on the aircon unless I'm almost on the verge of passing out.
The reason that they haven't put a second fan mount/grille in the top of the case is because that bar that comes out to help hide the cable management prevents you from having room to install one. If you want a second fan up top then you have to go to the H710 series, which does a good job of preserving the look while giving slightly better cooling. They changed the shape of the bar to allow for a second fan to be top mounted (or even an AIO), and then added perforation around both sides and the top instead of just the one narrow spot on the back side. If they made one of those with a mesh front panel like the 510 airflow it would be a home run.
@ᶠᵘᶜ-ᵏ ᵐᵉ cнёcк ʍʏ ρяσfιℓ I had a 5600x and RTX 3080 OC in mine, and the temps were a little too high for comfort. Much better in a Corsair 4000D Airflow.
what do you think the biggest graphics card that can fit in this would be?
Damn I wish they would just sell a replacement part for the OG H510 to get the front airflow.
Yeah i have the h510 but a new front panel isnt possible for it
I’ve always loved my h510, so glad that they’ll finally let my pc breathe
I just wanna know why the 120 fan for the NH-D14 is attached on the rear… butting right up to the case exhaust and serving little purpose, other than to generate noise via turbulence.
Was considering nzxt case as they make cable management simple but im looking for something more minimalist in its compactability
I built a PC for a friend last year in an H500 I got from Best Buy for $50. They have an I7-8700 and a 1070 ti and the temps were great. I certainly wouldn't recommend the case for a 30 series gpu but there are several other use case scenarios where the H500/H510 are viable and affordable cases. Relatively easy to build in and affordable for first time PC builders, plus it looks great
I just purchased a 3070 today with a tomahawk b450 mobo and a kraken nzxt x53 aio. What case would you recommend man?
I've had the non-flow version for a couple of years now and I'm super happy about it. I'm running it with the stock 2 fans (back, top) (speed controllable btw) and an additional 2 fans on a AIO in the front. I have no problem with cooling at all. The opening on the side and bottom are plenty sufficient. It was also super easy to build and looks fantastic. Plus I bought the plus version with RGB because why not. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that I dissagree with his hatret towards this product. Also, who is this a-hole anyways?
So its the H510 elite with custom front filter instead of glass and no CAM fan controller?
btw yes the h510 or nxzt cases screws are just so tight like the one from the pcie holding slot ,somtimes its like impossible to get it out
my dream case has arrived (finally)
love how nick is handling these case unboxes. just good old fashion blunt comments, refreshing. keep it up dude
For 110 you can get yourself the Corsair 4000d airflow for around 90 to 10 dollars depending on when and where you buy it
I got a Fractal Dsign R4, it has a similar design to the old 510. Never had a problem. Pc is so quiet and cool with ryzen and rtx..
These used to be LTT videos in 2012 days. I miss them, I wish linus did a couple more of these here on short circuit.
One question, why not open the box bottom instead of the top when unboxing a case?
Aye aye Cap'n, keeping my eyes posted.
this Airflow H510 is pretty cool, i have the original H510 with a 3060 Ti and a i5 10400 tho i havent seen any problems with Temps and almost had the case for a year, the GPU for about 6 months now, but the dust is a problem for sure tho, not sure if dust build up will be a big problem with the Airflow one
I love the look of the h510 and when I learned it was a bad case I was kinda upset. If this new one ends up being good I will probably buy one.
It's fine just has ok airflow. Not horrifying like described incorrectly here. Just don't use top of the line components and get aftermarket intake fans and you won't have problems.
@@joeykeilholz925
The H510 has horrible air flow if you compare it to a Meshify C for example.
With a 3070 or 3080 rig that's atleast a 15C temp difference.
I have been waiting on this for soo long and just got a new case to replace my 510. Don't know what took them soo long.
I have the old case. With 4 fans and chunky hardware. Thermals are fine . I am all for improvements but it wasn’t bad.
Well, he is right when he said you can put the radiator on the front of the case, but i wouldn't be easy.. Man i put a full rad and squeezed in two extra noctua fans ontop of the original rad ones and I'm very sure i obtained a few scratches inside the case along with the bruising n scratches on oneself.
10:35 I got a £80 case, it was such a good choice, got 3 fans and great airflow. (Corsair Icue 220T)
Ooh I have a h210 that’s air cooled with the 2 stock fans, do I need to be worried? Maybe I should put a couple of extra fans on the front
Should I add 140mm fans to it for better cooking if yes where the front panel ?
I really hope they sell these separately for h510 elite users. I also hope they make a matte white version
could you do a full air-cooled setup with fractal torrent NH-D15 vs corsair 170i on LTT
Using an H510 with 5600x and 3070 as a workstation and gaming build and have had no issues with heat. I like that they change the front panel for more cooling but the standard H510 has been great for me personally.
Seriously, it's not much of an issue for me with a 3600 and ancient gtx 970 and I didn't think it would suddenly be terrible with higher TDP components assuming they aren't the absolute hottest. It's good they put a front mesh on. But the old case had good enough airflow for hardware in its time (even 2-3 years after release)
hai jeff, im about to build the same spec like u mention. so its safe for temp right for h510 case, right? any recommendation fan cooler or something? im newbie sorry, thankyou
@@sebastianus_olaf I bought a pre-built from NZXT and it came with an Kraken all in one. I’m sure there are cheaper/equally as good options.
i had to rewatch that front panel connector a few times. see, I upgraded a dell optiplex with all new internals. I actually modified a fan header to make my dell case power button work with my asus motherboard. shit's mint
Glad Fractal Design released the Meshify 2 when I was building early this year
I wish the cases had the FP connectors as a single connection like this, with an extension to allow them to be plugged in separately... I say that as I am running a duel socket supermicro board in my computer and it has a 10 pin FP header on it
Is it shortcircuit of bigcircuit?