I have the orchestra lites. Just from a pinpoint accuracy in warzone standpoint, how much better are the cannons? Is it different enough to warrant the upgrade without taking the comfort into consideration?
It can really depend on your AMP DAC if you are using one vs not having one.... personally I have mine just running through my goxlr (not the best setup) but I did notice a very noticiable difference between the two and honestly for "long-term" use the Canon 2's are more comfortable for me. (some of that could be the tips I'm using) But ultimately, the Canon 2's will perform better and imho... I returned the Orchestra Lites after using the Canon's. My friend here just dropped a tier list which includes both of these and who I based making the upgrade myself to the Canon's if you need more reference. Skip to 10:30 in for the Canon reviews and tier lvl. th-cam.com/video/xrs6QTl5F1o/w-d-xo.html
@@DannyKillinger ohh yea. I watch fresh reviews too. I just wanted your opinion on just the sound part. I already know the lites comfort thing. I struggled with it for a while but I finally figured out a trick that made them comfortable for me so they no longer bother me on long sessions. I also do reordered the supermix 4’s but was wondering how much difference the directional audio in warzone is between the 2.
great video I also have the Yanyin and used it on my Elgato Wave XLR but I always get noise. What do you use to power your iems? Are you using a dac/amp? I would be very happy to receive an answer
Currently just plugging mine directly into the Goxlr. You might google a “loop isolator” which could solve the noise you’re hearing if it’s interference and or a humming noise
@@derjamiloyou could get a moondrop dawn pro to drive them. $50. Or a simple apple usb c dac works fine if you don’t want to spend much. You could also try an 25 ohm impedance adapter to see if that kills the noise , but honestly I’d go for a stand-alone dac/amp.
Hi Hijynx87 I thank you for your answer. I also think that I want to get a dac. Listen a lot of the topping dx1 or is that too much? It costs about $100 in Germany or if it's worth it ifi zen dac v2 Best regards from Germany
It's pretty easy, most IEMs have a simple 3.5mm jack, and you can just plug them straight into a motherboard as long as your cable is long enough (you can get a 3.5mm extender if needed). You can also plug them into a DAC, or Digital to Analog Converter and Amplifier to improve the audio quality (this would be the "best" setup option)
@@DannyKillinger got it man thank you for taking the time to reply . I was researching that using an Astro mix amp could also be an option to use an IEM what you think ?
I picked up the Yanyin Canon 2s. Plus the iFi amp. Everything arrived today. Purchased based on your recommendation. Holy shit... Tarkov just became a new game.
Well I picked up the Moondrop Kato as people say they're perfect for gaming but it's highs are just way to dominant ^^ Maybe I should try that combination as well even tho it's pricey ^^
Do you think the Yanyin Cannon IIs are worth the extra $120. Like is it a huge difference while in game? I am a competitive wz2 player and my current pr is 36 on vondel while using my arctis pros. I can hear decently in game now, but sometimes when there is a lot going on with multiple squads pushing, my directional ques can get muddled or because of the space of the headset, I can hear someone is close but cant always pinpoint where. Ive seen ArtIsWar and Fresh Reviews on youtube recommend the Kiwis but this is the first Ive seen on the Cannons. Just wondering if the difference between the two is marginal or worth the extra money?
Personally, I think the difference is worth because of the 4 different switches included on the Cannon’s. I didn’t go into a ton of detail but it gives you a pretty wide range of customization for Warzone and or games with a ton of sound alerts. After playing with the Kiwi’s for several days, truly the biggest knock was the pressure build up from longer sessions. I think both are equally good in a lot of ways, but I would shell out the $120 for the Cannon IIs for the comfort and or improved sound (all be it very marginal)
@@DannyKillinger I appreciate the response. I play for 8-10 hrs sometimes and one of the biggest concerns I had for the kiwis was comfort for that long, whish is a shame because the price is great
@@DannyKillinger I recommend ArtIsWar's tuning to take these to the next level in warzone, if its something you havent already seen. th-cam.com/video/CtpDnSBpMFg/w-d-xo.html
Oh, I did see he was hyped about possibly an $80 set that might be worth checking out too. Not sure if he’s dropped the video yet. Venting is huge for comfort and letting that pressure go somewhere.
I’m sure there is, I’ve seen IEM’s go into the $1k’s which seems insane to pay for. Obviously, more expensive does not mean “the best” or even better. But I have watched some “audiophile” videos and know what can achieve incredible sound from just IEMS. For my use case in gaming though, I’d say $200-$400 is the sweet spot… anything costing more or less is most likely average or over priced in this space imho.
There are better, but for gaming it doesn’t get too much better and it’s more of a sound preference. As long as they have good imaging, layering and separation you are good to go. Personally I’d just get a simgot em6l for $100 and you’ll be just fine. These 2 aren’t much better for gaming, and the sound signature is really nice and smooth on the simgot.
The kiwis are a bit larger than average, and they are unvented so if they fit you would need aftermarket tips. Tangzu tang sencai work great and completely remove the pressure issue. Divinus velvet also work, but not quite as well. Foam also works perfectly , but I’m not a fan of foam tips.
Soundstage is quite spacious and wide with decent depth and height, nothing overly impressive compared to actual open back headphones if being honest. But for an IEM, I think these are more than sufficient here.
No, but they do sound outside your head for some sounds. Maybe better than the x2hr, but definitely not the akg. Imaging, layering and separation are more important than a wide soundstage though. Iems are better at that.
For the kiwi ears orchestra lite you should try divinus velvet, tangzu tang sencai, moondrop spring tips or foam. The tang sencai and divinus velvet work the best for non vented iems.
You’ll need to get a pair that has a mic built in (rare) better option would be to pick up a dedicated usb mic would be my guess. Not really sure if that’s possible with series x
Just got these today after a few reviews,yours being one.For Apex they feel like a cheat code😁so good,running them through Zen stack,better than any headset or items I've had b4.Monarch 3 bit too pricey for me,not that these are cheap🙂Any1 on the fence for Apex,u won't be disappointed
W!!! I’m thoroughly enjoying these as well, I may do a “budget” video soon after I get a few more pairs for testing. I’m excited to test these out on some OG Fortnite soon, along with a new Warzone dropping as well!
That would be a good comparison I bet! I would think the quality of the driver etc would be the main difference… but how that would impact the sound would be interesting.
Got my Yanyin Canon 2's last week and been loving them so much. My only gripe was with the tips being slightly larger than most and the small not fitting. I just have smaller ears and canals, but nonetheless these still feel amazing. Switched to Spinfit W1's that has a slightly larger bore (appears so at least). Amazing improvement but could've been due to improper fit with the original tips.
I love this comment! If I had done the review today, the tips would also be my ONLY gripe! Ha they feel a little hard for long sessions and so I just ordered AZLA SednaEarfitLight 2 Pairs (Size MS) which I hear good things about. I may try those you suggested if these don’t work out, they should be in today!
Lol how can you say something is a value and then 2 seconds later admit they are expensive? That's a contradiction... The HD 560 headphone is a good value. The HD 600 is a good value at $200. IEM's priced at $350 are not a good value. They are just expensive.
That's because the Yanyin Cannon IIs sound and perform like many $500-$750 headphone's which makes them a good value - again I never said these were budget IEMs or consider them of good value based solely on the price. This was only mentioned as they are a good value compared to much more expensive IEMs... but I see your point and appreciate your comment.
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Do you just plug the Yanyin Cannon II in the pc or you use some amp dac?
I plug them into my goxlr since I stream and monitor my audio that way.
Are the YanYin still the best ? Or are there better ones ?
I’m still loving mine, market is super competitive though, so I’d say there’s several options in the $250-$350 range
@@DannyKillinger and are they also good 2 use on PlayStation ?
I have the orchestra lites. Just from a pinpoint accuracy in warzone standpoint, how much better are the cannons? Is it different enough to warrant the upgrade without taking the comfort into consideration?
It can really depend on your AMP DAC if you are using one vs not having one.... personally I have mine just running through my goxlr (not the best setup) but I did notice a very noticiable difference between the two and honestly for "long-term" use the Canon 2's are more comfortable for me. (some of that could be the tips I'm using) But ultimately, the Canon 2's will perform better and imho... I returned the Orchestra Lites after using the Canon's. My friend here just dropped a tier list which includes both of these and who I based making the upgrade myself to the Canon's if you need more reference. Skip to 10:30 in for the Canon reviews and tier lvl. th-cam.com/video/xrs6QTl5F1o/w-d-xo.html
@@DannyKillinger ohh yea. I watch fresh reviews too. I just wanted your opinion on just the sound part. I already know the lites comfort thing. I struggled with it for a while but I finally figured out a trick that made them comfortable for me so they no longer bother me on long sessions. I also do reordered the supermix 4’s but was wondering how much difference the directional audio in warzone is between the 2.
great video
I also have the Yanyin and used it on my Elgato Wave XLR but I always get noise. What do you use to power your iems? Are you using a dac/amp? I would be very happy to receive an answer
Currently just plugging mine directly into the Goxlr. You might google a “loop isolator” which could solve the noise you’re hearing if it’s interference and or a humming noise
I thank you for the answer
@@derjamiloyou could get a moondrop dawn pro to drive them. $50. Or a simple apple usb c dac works fine if you don’t want to spend much. You could also try an 25 ohm impedance adapter to see if that kills the noise , but honestly I’d go for a stand-alone dac/amp.
Hi Hijynx87
I thank you for your answer. I also think that I want to get a dac. Listen a lot of the topping dx1 or is that too much? It costs about $100 in Germany or if it's worth it ifi zen dac v2
Best regards from Germany
So how do you connect these IEMs ? Do I have to buy a goxlr ? And a I mic ? Help me out because I want to get rid of these big bulky headphones lol
It's pretty easy, most IEMs have a simple 3.5mm jack, and you can just plug them straight into a motherboard as long as your cable is long enough (you can get a 3.5mm extender if needed). You can also plug them into a DAC, or Digital to Analog Converter and Amplifier to improve the audio quality (this would be the "best" setup option)
@@DannyKillinger got it man thank you for taking the time to reply . I was researching that using an Astro mix amp could also be an option to use an IEM what you think ?
You certainly can, that's what I used for a few years because I owned the astro's prior to getting into IEMs@@aguzman13ag
Nice, it's a mystery to me because not a lot of reviewers are talking about this IEM, thanks man.
Agreed! I had only seen 2-3 big channels even cover these IEMs… they are truly top tier imo.
is your cannon still working properly?
So far no issues at all, but I do swap between wireless ear buds half the time if Im playing single player story games or editing etc.
I picked up the Yanyin Canon 2s. Plus the iFi amp. Everything arrived today. Purchased based on your recommendation. Holy shit... Tarkov just became a new game.
🙌 let’s go! That is awesome! It’s insane how well these perform in game. Stoked to hear your results!
Well I picked up the Moondrop Kato as people say they're perfect for gaming but it's highs are just way to dominant ^^ Maybe I should try that combination as well even tho it's pricey ^^
@TheZeroHawk Which iFi Amp did u get?
Have you tried Raptgo Hook HBB by chance? How do they compare?
No, might check those out though!
what about LETSHUOER S12 / Pro? (150-200€) (looking just for fpos competitive PoV) If I found cheap Senheiser IE 600 I woul rather choose them.
Haven't checked those out personally, but right now, you can't go wrong with most choices in the 150-200 range. Tons of great options there!
Do you think the Yanyin Cannon IIs are worth the extra $120. Like is it a huge difference while in game? I am a competitive wz2 player and my current pr is 36 on vondel while using my arctis pros. I can hear decently in game now, but sometimes when there is a lot going on with multiple squads pushing, my directional ques can get muddled or because of the space of the headset, I can hear someone is close but cant always pinpoint where. Ive seen ArtIsWar and Fresh Reviews on youtube recommend the Kiwis but this is the first Ive seen on the Cannons. Just wondering if the difference between the two is marginal or worth the extra money?
Personally, I think the difference is worth because of the 4 different switches included on the Cannon’s. I didn’t go into a ton of detail but it gives you a pretty wide range of customization for Warzone and or games with a ton of sound alerts. After playing with the Kiwi’s for several days, truly the biggest knock was the pressure build up from longer sessions. I think both are equally good in a lot of ways, but I would shell out the $120 for the Cannon IIs for the comfort and or improved sound (all be it very marginal)
@@DannyKillinger I appreciate the response. I play for 8-10 hrs sometimes and one of the biggest concerns I had for the kiwis was comfort for that long, whish is a shame because the price is great
@@DannyKillinger I recommend ArtIsWar's tuning to take these to the next level in warzone, if its something you havent already seen. th-cam.com/video/CtpDnSBpMFg/w-d-xo.html
Haven’t watched this latest video! Good looking out, I did watch his previous and MAN what a difference that did!
Oh, I did see he was hyped about possibly an $80 set that might be worth checking out too. Not sure if he’s dropped the video yet. Venting is huge for comfort and letting that pressure go somewhere.
Can i hook these yp to my astro mix amps? 😅🤣 Or would it not be compatible
can you connect these to xbox?
Is this the Endgame Iems? The best?
Im new to iems i omly know The endgame Headphones Sennheiser 800s one
I’m sure there is, I’ve seen IEM’s go into the $1k’s which seems insane to pay for. Obviously, more expensive does not mean “the best” or even better. But I have watched some “audiophile” videos and know what can achieve incredible sound from just IEMS. For my use case in gaming though, I’d say $200-$400 is the sweet spot… anything costing more or less is most likely average or over priced in this space imho.
There are better, but for gaming it doesn’t get too much better and it’s more of a sound preference. As long as they have good imaging, layering and separation you are good to go. Personally I’d just get a simgot em6l for $100 and you’ll be just fine. These 2 aren’t much better for gaming, and the sound signature is really nice and smooth on the simgot.
Great video. Do you use the default switch configuration for gaming?
Thank you, yes I do! But tbh I haven't played with the switches since I had advice the default was perfect for shooters etc.
do you need an amplifier for these?
Not needed but, strongly suggested for the best results. They can just plug and play tbh, that’s how I run them.
do i need a dac or amp for this one? or i can just direct to my pc or laptop?
I would suggest getting a dac or some other audio interface. But you can also plug them in directly to a PC through the 3.5mm
I just purchased these iem's. Do you have any recommendations for a dac or audio interface?@@DannyKillinger
Most iems other than planars run just fine out of a Nintendo switch. They benefit from a dac/amp, but it’s not necessary for a lot of them.
Yo yo would these be good for Escape from Tarkov?
1000%, these are around the best for the money if wanting to get serious with IEM’s imo
is this good for small ears? i mean the fit for small ears
Yes, but I did upgrade the ear tips to the AZLA SednaEarfitLight for a softer fit!
The kiwis are a bit larger than average, and they are unvented so if they fit you would need aftermarket tips. Tangzu tang sencai work great and completely remove the pressure issue. Divinus velvet also work, but not quite as well. Foam also works perfectly , but I’m not a fan of foam tips.
Is the soundstage wide on these like open back headphones e.g. AKG 7xx/702, philips fidelio x2hr?
Soundstage is quite spacious and wide with decent depth and height, nothing overly impressive compared to actual open back headphones if being honest. But for an IEM, I think these are more than sufficient here.
No, but they do sound outside your head for some sounds. Maybe better than the x2hr, but definitely not the akg. Imaging, layering and separation are more important than a wide soundstage though. Iems are better at that.
have you tried using these with sound EQ?
Yep, these are the two best, but I prefer the Yanyin II for overall comfort and sound quality.
@@DannyKillinger i haven’t dived into ear buds really for gaming i’m so weird with that haha
For the kiwi ears orchestra lite you should try divinus velvet, tangzu tang sencai, moondrop spring tips or foam. The tang sencai and divinus velvet work the best for non vented iems.
Goated suggestions, I will absolutely check it out! Much appreciated!
If im using series x how can i speak with teammate with iems?
You’ll need to get a pair that has a mic built in (rare) better option would be to pick up a dedicated usb mic would be my guess. Not really sure if that’s possible with series x
Just got these today after a few reviews,yours being one.For Apex they feel like a cheat code😁so good,running them through Zen stack,better than any headset or items I've had b4.Monarch 3 bit too pricey for me,not that these are cheap🙂Any1 on the fence for Apex,u won't be disappointed
W!!! I’m thoroughly enjoying these as well, I may do a “budget” video soon after I get a few more pairs for testing. I’m excited to test these out on some OG Fortnite soon, along with a new Warzone dropping as well!
Yeh should be good for wz,not played WZ2 much but new map/mechanics look good@@DannyKillinger def gonna check it out
The canon what do you set the at?
Does the kiwi beat out pc38x
it just depends on preference, can't go wrong with either, but overall you have to decide if you want over the ear vs IEM (ear buds)
I wonder 🤔 how these compete with KZ AST 24 drivers (CCA CA24 same iems)
That would be a good comparison I bet! I would think the quality of the driver etc would be the main difference… but how that would impact the sound would be interesting.
Got my Yanyin Canon 2's last week and been loving them so much. My only gripe was with the tips being slightly larger than most and the small not fitting. I just have smaller ears and canals, but nonetheless these still feel amazing. Switched to Spinfit W1's that has a slightly larger bore (appears so at least). Amazing improvement but could've been due to improper fit with the original tips.
I love this comment! If I had done the review today, the tips would also be my ONLY gripe! Ha they feel a little hard for long sessions and so I just ordered AZLA SednaEarfitLight 2 Pairs (Size MS) which I hear good things about. I may try those you suggested if these don’t work out, they should be in today!
Update please, how the new fit worked for you?
I am still loving them with the Spinfit W1's and they're still super comfy with a great seal. @@oscariglesias5751
Spinfit w1 are my favorite tips, definitely not just the seal they are just high quality. They also extend the soundstage on a lot of iems.
Good video
Thanks man! Appreciate that
Do these have mics or woild you need to buy a mic to speak in game now lmao
Why is he showing cheats lmaoooo
👁️👄👁️
You show a hacking clip right at the beginning… 🤦🏾♂️ yeah I don’t trust you with any review 😂😂😂😂
It was a joke about how good the earbuds are 🫥🫥🫥🫥
Right 100% lost all credibility 😂
This is either funny sarcasm or a dumb comment
You kinda dumb dawg lmfao he was playing a joke off his word play
Lol how can you say something is a value and then 2 seconds later admit they are expensive? That's a contradiction... The HD 560 headphone is a good value. The HD 600 is a good value at $200. IEM's priced at $350 are not a good value. They are just expensive.
That's because the Yanyin Cannon IIs sound and perform like many $500-$750 headphone's which makes them a good value - again I never said these were budget IEMs or consider them of good value based solely on the price. This was only mentioned as they are a good value compared to much more expensive IEMs... but I see your point and appreciate your comment.