I went from DHR2 MT DD rear and Assegai MG DD front to Kryptotal DH super softs F/R just recently. Put about 200 miles on the Kryptotals now and have been very happy with them so far. The Kryptotal's DH casing's are pretty heavy and the SS compound is a bit draggy, but they roll pretty good in the dry and for sure roll a bit faster than MG Assegai's. It has been pretty wet lately, so slogging though soft wet dirt and mud makes most tires hard to spin anyway. The rear Kryptotal feels a lot like a DHR2 with great braking performance and similar cornering characteristics. The Front Kryptotal I've found feel different tipping into a corner compared to the Assegai, likely due to a slightly flatter profile. I think the Maxxis MaxGrip compound is slightly stickier on wet roots and rocks, but only marginally better. Braking grip between the Kryptotal F and Assegai is again very similar with maybe a slight edge to the Assegai, but it is splitting hairs really. The dampened performance of the Kryptotals has been great and with no inserts, I've not whacked a rim hard yet that I can see. I think that the Kryptotal does a bit better maintaining composure charging through chunk where the tire is hitting lots of off camber objects, likely due to the stiffer sidewalls. Currently running 25R/22F most the time (1 psi less when colder/rain or maybe 1 more depending on terrain).
I definitely agree with you on some points and had a slightly different experience in other areas. I definitely found they roll faster, last longer, and stay true unlike the maxxis (wobble). I did find the RE couldn't outbrake the DHR II (8/10 as good?) and the FR would occasionally shock me with a surprise slide out where the assegai would hook. The DH casing FR weighs the same as assegai DD but the DH casing RE is 100g heavier than DD DHRII (but lighter than DHRII + CC). That said, I still rim out hard enough with the DH casing in rear it sketches me out. Oh, the DH casing is super supple compared to maxxis and the conti enduro casings too, so that's something worth noting. I also tried the xynotal at UC on my trail bike (dusty's, flow, easy stuff). It's a little faster than the Kryptotal RE but it doesn't brake nearly as well, even in heroic conditions so I think that's an easy tire to pass on for the stuff you like. I have 2 argotal sitting on the bench. I want to see if they are a bit more confidence inspiring than the Kryptotal FR. Gotta love crying while mounting the DH casings... they can be a bear on the wrong rim. Their enduro casings are super easy.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm still new to this experimenting with new parts and getting things dialed, so my thoughts on the two might be affected by that. But I sure can say I like the way these feel more then my old setup that's for sure.
@@thebigoutsidemtb it could also be different trail conditions and you like the loamier trails than I like, so we could just have different feedback based upon that! Feel is very subjective, great video!
Did you find it to have more grip? The Kryptotal has been amazing in terms of grip. Well, they can. Maxxis can be found cheaper more often since they have been around for a while and a lot of shops carry them.
I'm testing out some enduro Kryptotal's on my trail bike. I'm going to also be testing out a Argotal Super Soft DH for a front this winter on my enduro bike. I have yet to use an Exynotal but plan to get one for a faster rear tire for my trail bike, likely going to be used in the summer. So I do plan to make a video of my experience with the lineup but as of now, I have just used the Kryptotal's in DH and Enduro casing. I will be sure to share my thoughts on the other tires once I have more ride time on them!
I need a really good rear tire for my vintage Stumpjumper.i went out and got the Continental cross kings but the rear tire wore out quick .I did put on alot of miles over the summer but damn,the tire showed wear within month.front tire looks new,which is understandable. I need 26" x 2.1 can anyone please help me .
Well, it sounds like the tire in this video isn't for you. Its sounds like you want a faster rolling XC tire. Maybe look at the Maxxis Ikons? They are in the same sort of tire category as the cross kings but maybe they will last longer. BTW, if you were looking at the tires I have in this video, they do have them in 26" it appears.
Great stuff and really nice riding! I am a local I ride some UCSC stuff but not super aware of all the trails, usually stick to mailboxes, sweetness, magic carpet & chupa/deadcamper. Would you be interested in trail guiding me for fee? intermediate rider, ride mostly toro park (pipeline) and fort ord area.
Thanks dude! I've been real busy and haven't had much time to even get out much. I would say to get good trail recommendations and where they are located is to ask locals when your at UC, and sometimes if they are cool you can ask to join a lap with them! That is what I did when I first started riding UC. There is some great stuff past all of what you named.
@@Robdorange You must not have the technique down. This is with any tires, sure, these seem to be a little on the harder side (They are DH casing so that's a lot of it) but with the right technique its easy to get any tire on.
Thanks for your presentation. I do have to say something...please tend to you tongue-tie. It is a simple procedure and will save you lots of problems from eating disorders, back pains headaches to speech. I know this because i've had it myself and both of my kids had it. It will also improve your riding, guaranteed :D
Great review bro! Now I like a faster rolling tire so now I guess I gotta fit in some conti tires on my enduro soon!
Thank you! They are amazing I'm telling you! You will love them!
I went from DHR2 MT DD rear and Assegai MG DD front to Kryptotal DH super softs F/R just recently. Put about 200 miles on the Kryptotals now and have been very happy with them so far. The Kryptotal's DH casing's are pretty heavy and the SS compound is a bit draggy, but they roll pretty good in the dry and for sure roll a bit faster than MG Assegai's. It has been pretty wet lately, so slogging though soft wet dirt and mud makes most tires hard to spin anyway. The rear Kryptotal feels a lot like a DHR2 with great braking performance and similar cornering characteristics. The Front Kryptotal I've found feel different tipping into a corner compared to the Assegai, likely due to a slightly flatter profile. I think the Maxxis MaxGrip compound is slightly stickier on wet roots and rocks, but only marginally better. Braking grip between the Kryptotal F and Assegai is again very similar with maybe a slight edge to the Assegai, but it is splitting hairs really. The dampened performance of the Kryptotals has been great and with no inserts, I've not whacked a rim hard yet that I can see. I think that the Kryptotal does a bit better maintaining composure charging through chunk where the tire is hitting lots of off camber objects, likely due to the stiffer sidewalls. Currently running 25R/22F most the time (1 psi less when colder/rain or maybe 1 more depending on terrain).
You mostly have the same thoughts! Glad to hear. I'm running 23R and 18F which was the same PSI I was running with CushCore.
Hey guys thanks for the info, how much do you guys weight? I use 20F 23R +/ - in summer, im 68kg without equipment
Great job on this review! I’ve been eyeing them and AJ seems to like them a lot too. Wish you and your dad could ride with us this weekend
You would like them! Yeah, I totally forgot and then my dad planned something. Maybe next time we will have to rip together!
Really nice tires keep up the amazing work
Yeah dude, appreciate that awesome review.
Very nice and true to life review
I definitely agree with you on some points and had a slightly different experience in other areas. I definitely found they roll faster, last longer, and stay true unlike the maxxis (wobble). I did find the RE couldn't outbrake the DHR II (8/10 as good?) and the FR would occasionally shock me with a surprise slide out where the assegai would hook. The DH casing FR weighs the same as assegai DD but the DH casing RE is 100g heavier than DD DHRII (but lighter than DHRII + CC). That said, I still rim out hard enough with the DH casing in rear it sketches me out. Oh, the DH casing is super supple compared to maxxis and the conti enduro casings too, so that's something worth noting.
I also tried the xynotal at UC on my trail bike (dusty's, flow, easy stuff). It's a little faster than the Kryptotal RE but it doesn't brake nearly as well, even in heroic conditions so I think that's an easy tire to pass on for the stuff you like.
I have 2 argotal sitting on the bench. I want to see if they are a bit more confidence inspiring than the Kryptotal FR.
Gotta love crying while mounting the DH casings... they can be a bear on the wrong rim. Their enduro casings are super easy.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm still new to this experimenting with new parts and getting things dialed, so my thoughts on the two might be affected by that. But I sure can say I like the way these feel more then my old setup that's for sure.
@@thebigoutsidemtb it could also be different trail conditions and you like the loamier trails than I like, so we could just have different feedback based upon that! Feel is very subjective, great video!
Do maxxis last longer or conti
Continental for sure. Forgot to mention durability in the video.
Nice video, very informative.
You should try a super soft xynotal on the front.
The contis actually work out cheaper than maxxis as you don't have to buy inserts.
Did you find it to have more grip? The Kryptotal has been amazing in terms of grip.
Well, they can. Maxxis can be found cheaper more often since they have been around for a while and a lot of shops carry them.
what about argotal, xynotal, soft vs super soft, enduro vs DH
I'm testing out some enduro Kryptotal's on my trail bike. I'm going to also be testing out a Argotal Super Soft DH for a front this winter on my enduro bike. I have yet to use an Exynotal but plan to get one for a faster rear tire for my trail bike, likely going to be used in the summer. So I do plan to make a video of my experience with the lineup but as of now, I have just used the Kryptotal's in DH and Enduro casing. I will be sure to share my thoughts on the other tires once I have more ride time on them!
@thebigoutsidemtb thank you I will start with a rear tire to test it out since my front assegai is still good
@@boogiedownbronx73 For sure! I think you will like the setup. But tbh, I think the front tire is where you will feel it the most.
Hi, what front mudguard / fender do you use? Looks to fit really well
It's the XL Fox Fender. I like it! Does a better job and looks cooler then the smaller one from Fox.
I need a really good rear tire for my vintage Stumpjumper.i went out and got the Continental cross kings but the rear tire wore out quick .I did put on alot of miles over the summer but damn,the tire showed wear within month.front tire looks new,which is understandable. I need 26" x 2.1 can anyone please help me .
Well, it sounds like the tire in this video isn't for you. Its sounds like you want a faster rolling XC tire. Maybe look at the Maxxis Ikons? They are in the same sort of tire category as the cross kings but maybe they will last longer. BTW, if you were looking at the tires I have in this video, they do have them in 26" it appears.
i do need some better rolling speed i think these tires might be the go
Yeah if you feel like your current tires are feeling draggy these will feel amazing!
great enthusiasm! it's funny, as I have a brand new assegai coming in the mail! haaaa. Oh well....
Haha Thank You! Assegai is good too. But I like how these roll faster. Same grip I would say though.
At my age, slower rolling is better! I need to slow down.@@thebigoutsidemtb
Great stuff and really nice riding! I am a local I ride some UCSC stuff but not super aware of all the trails, usually stick to mailboxes, sweetness, magic carpet & chupa/deadcamper. Would you be interested in trail guiding me for fee? intermediate rider, ride mostly toro park (pipeline) and fort ord area.
Thanks dude! I've been real busy and haven't had much time to even get out much. I would say to get good trail recommendations and where they are located is to ask locals when your at UC, and sometimes if they are cool you can ask to join a lap with them! That is what I did when I first started riding UC. There is some great stuff past all of what you named.
my gripe with these tires is they are a pain in the ass to install because its so hard to get the tire onto the rim fully
I don't know. They aren't that hard compared to other tires I have installed. If you get the trick down, you can install any tire with minimal effort.
@@thebigoutsidemtbthese are the hell, specially with inserts. Fine tires though.
@@Robdorange You must not have the technique down. This is with any tires, sure, these seem to be a little on the harder side (They are DH casing so that's a lot of it) but with the right technique its easy to get any tire on.
Thanks for your presentation.
I do have to say something...please tend to you tongue-tie.
It is a simple procedure and will save you lots of problems from eating disorders, back pains headaches to speech. I know this because i've had it myself and both of my kids had it.
It will also improve your riding, guaranteed :D
why dont they do 2.6 size is the real question!
I looked, and it looks like they do. But I'm pumped on the 2.4's.