**UPDATE: Putting a higher voltage into your power wheels could damage other electronics onboard (Radio, lights and so forth). If you plan on doing these modifications, UNPLUG those electronics before applying higher voltages. You will not be able to use those electronics while running over 14volts. The motors can handle the extra load BUT lights and radios could be damaged since they are only designed for 12 volts. ** Also, this modification works very well with 20v tool batteries as well, no need to go out and purchase a Ryobi 40volt battery if you don't have one.
For other ride-ons that have a circuit board (music, steering motor, R/C etc) can you install this as a "Boost" to the motors between the circuit board and the motors? You keep the original battery connected that way the board does not get damage with the increase in voltage?. Just an idea, I'm toying with this..im not an engineer
@@FernandoLarez I had a friend with a car that used a circuit board. He found a replacement one online that supported up to 24volts and then used a 20v tool battery to boost his speed. It worked really well. Just see if you can get one that supports 24v instead of 12v.
My boy has a bigger power wheels jeep two person. All I did was cut off the wires from the jeep plug stick on some adapter plugs and plug it into my 5amp hour, 20volt dewalt straight. His jeep will hit 13km with him on it. He now loves it. You do have to watch that the battery does not run down too far, or the battery is ruined! I let him drive around 20 minutes or so then check the battery and charge as needed.
The pwm controller is only there to adjust the speed. If you want it to run max speed all the time your option works great! As for the battery running down too low. Some tools have low voltage battery protection in the tool, and some have low voltage protection in the battery, you can Google that to verify with your specific battery!
I’m an FPV pilot and for my one daughter 1st bday I got her a car and she loves it. It uses a crappy 2.4 remote and I’ve always wanted to add a 915 system and connect it to my drone radio. You have inspired me to start it! And she tossed the remote in the trash without us knowing and they want 30 bucks for that piece of plastic lol
Sounds like a great project! Just be careful of the higher voltage batteries damaging your radio equipment (I'm sure youll keep the power systems separate). Let me know how it turns out!
I tend to like the Ryobi One+ batteries, because they lift straight out. If you have room for them, you can mount them permanently, and they won't need to be removed, to slide the battery out. The current model adapter even has its own power switch.
Just did this exact mod, pink barbie power wheels jeep. SO easy and works like a charm. Thanks for the walkthough! I used your amazon links to make the purchases.
Thank you for posting! All the other videos just show their kids driving the power wheels. No disrespect to them but I didn’t come for that I came for the explanation. You earned a new subscriber.
I pushed 40v in my daughters Vette and I blew both motors in 4 seconds. Cheap to replace, lesson learned. No way the 550 motors can take 40v EVER! Maybe a 750 could take a few minutes but the best is using a dewalt 20v and its solid, cannot beat it.
I used same pwm controller....kept burning up my boards instantly. I bypassed it and no issues....20v dewalt battery though. Just ordered a 40v ryobi, gunna throw it in the 2nd car n see what it do
I've seen 18 volt battery go faster than that. Is there other upgrades you can do to make it fast. Like to doughnuts in the winter with studded tires fast
Hi, great job!! I'm making the same modification to my daughter's car, I wanted to ask you if you connected the controller directly to the two wires (positive and negative) that come from the original control unit of the car (where the lights, radio etc are connected)
it is pretty working great. i have a question why the PWM controller is getting hot? i touched the outside the metal box. it was pretty hot and stop moving but still on. little help please
So I bought a ride on for my daughter the ride on is a 24v utv 2 motor and already comes with a controller that has a read out on it when I add the 40v and turn it up to 60% the readout on the car turn from 24 to 35v would the current controller in the car limit how much I can push the car and can I go more due to the 24v motors ?
Just dont push it the best part of this mod is the hot swappable batteries dont go too much higher than the normal voltage of the car it can cause alot of problems. I modded 2 of my kids powerwheels with ryobi 18v system withe the same speed controller and they drive until they dont wanna drive anymore not because the battery died. Powerwheels should adopt this system and even remove the speed controller it would still be awesome for the kids.
Can you wire the 40v battery straight to the car with an inline fuse without going through the controller? What are the risks of doing this? I have wired an M18 milwaukee battery to our power wheels but the kids want more speed 😅.
Great video but can you describe how you made the gas pedal fit into the mechanics of that, how does the controller know when the gas pedal is being pressed
Hey Drake, the controller is on, it's always putting out the set power/voltage, pressing the gas pedal just closes the circuit and puts electricity to the wheels. The pedal acts like a switch basically.
How much power can it safely take. I put a ryobi 18v in a 12v power wheels and it can now do 6.8mph instead of 4.5. We have a 24v ride in toy also that I want to give more power as it’s an ATV with 4 200w motors making it a true 4x4
I like this idea, but my daughters jeep has the option of 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive. It also has 3 speeds and parental remote. It has 4 motors. One at each wheel. How could I do this?
Any electronics might be damaged with the higher voltage so unplug those before doing the mod (radio lights and so forth). Using a 20v tool battery is best because the motors won't get quite as hot and burn up.
hi jasonoid. This upgrade was great but all of the sudden my 30 amp fuse is blowing on all four of my powerwheels. they were fine and running for hours. What could be causing the sudden change on numerous cars/
Great explanation on how to do it. I do have a couple of questions. I have a Huffy Torex Atv, it is 24v but it has 2 motors. Can I put both motors on the same output channel? Or do I need a 2 output controller? Also, can I leave the original 40A controller with the original battery aside to use the lights, etc, and make the 40v conversion just for the motors.
If you have fancy electronics (lights, radios and such) those probably won't be compatible with your power wheel and might be damaged with the higher voltage. The one I used in the video was Plain Jane and had nothing but the motors and battery.
Pretty cool , have a dual motor Range Rover planing to modify , but I’m sure I’ll need a lot more than just battery and control unit , any suggestions ?
The battery and controller should be all you need, you'll want to unhook any other electronics like headlights and radios since they can't handle the higher voltages.
i am doing a project similar to this will Putting 40 volts burnout the motor or the radio in the vehicle and what is the ( mph ) if you can give me a reply I would love that
Interesting I setup my kids Jeep Wrangler power wheel with (2) 18 volt Makita batteries and a speed controller. Mine doesn’t look as quick as yours, I’m guessing different models have different motors in them.
Everything is stock except the battery and pwm controller. Running at 55% or lower works fine, so a 24v battery would perform the same. No damage to my gearboxes yet and it's been going for over a year weekly.
I seen so many burn up they control board any way to avoid that I was thinking getting ride of my accessories but idk if my control board would still handle it?
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
Mine is an 'old school' power wheels, no remote control, no lights, no radio, no smart controller. Just a battery, forward or reverse switch, gas pedal and motors.
So with you running at 20ish volts no problems one wouldn’t need a PCM if they wanted to run an 18v ryobi, just take the adapter for the battery straight into the existing wiring. Would that be correct?
I have several dewalt 20v batteries that a larger amp hour, and several large ryobi 18v batteries, do you think either would make a good battery for this or should I use this as an excuse to get into the ryobi 40v line up lol
How do the batteries hold up with getting drained faster and lower then normal? Or do you even have to worry about draining the batteries to extremely low levels repeatedly with this set up?
I have multiple batteries so I rotate through them. This uses the same power as a weed Wacker so not more power draw than normal. The batteries have held up fine.
Stock gearboxes, mine has twin motors so less stress on each motor/gearbox. If yours has one motor just mod it an 18volt battery or 24 volt battery max.
Hi I like the video but could u show me how the motor wires go from the motor to the speed controller because I'm finding it hard to do it do they both go together then in to the speed controller or does the red wire of the motor go to one bit and the black go in to the other
The video shows the wiring. The battery wires go to the battery connection on the PWM controller, the motor connect to the motor connections on the PWM controller.
Have you had any issues with your speed controller burning up. I have had 2 burn up and haven't pushed pass 40% power. Also have you had issues with the ryobi battery shutting down from to much power being pulled at once. I'm thinking about adding a accelerator pedal so that power is gradually increased. Thanks for the info
The Ryobi batteries do shut down if there are too many amps pulled. Happens all the time when I am edging my sidewalk with my edger attachment. I have seen it happen with my power wheel if I have it turned up past 50 and it has lots of weight in there, two large kiddos. Still on my first pwm controller no issues with mine. Not sure why yours have failed.
That means the battery has too many amps being pulled and it's shutting off from over current protection. Maybe the motors are bigger than mine and pulling too many amps from the battery.
The controller board won't accept the higher voltage, it will get fried. You can search for a "24 volt" controller board for your model and you can run a 20v tool battery as a replacement.
Fried my motors possibly. Attached the 40v to the adapter and turned it on. Instantly heard a loud pop and the lights flickered. Seems like I needed to step down the voltage. Is that controller what I'm missing?
Every powerwheels is a little different. My power wheels was super old fashioned and had no electronics inside (radio, lights, speakers) so there was nothing to fry. The newer models have electronics that aren't designed for voltages above 12v. To keep my motors from burning up I usually run my pwm controller at 50 - 55% power. That's a fast speed for my kids.
The pwm controller controls the rpms of the motors. Without the pwm controller it would be 100% speed all the time. My motors are brushed so youd need a special motor controller for brushless motors, kinda like a rc brushless esc.
I’m just a grandma trying to do something like this for my grandkids. I’m just wondering if I could do this with a Hitachi 1820L battery? It is a Ni-cad 18 v battery. Is there an adapter that would make this work? Thanks!
Thanks for video! I'm halfway through a build on my kids dune racer. The dune racer has two rear Motors. Can I daisy chain those Motors against this device since it only has output for 1 motor?
If you connect the PWM controller to the motors, it will run both of them. Just make sure they are connected in parallel. I didn't need to make any changes to my wiring, I just connected it to the stock wires so you may want to do that.
@@Jasonoid BLUF: I need to go stock wires that used to go to 12v to device motor out - device - battery out to ryobi base. Appreciate the quick reply! I see now. I have 1 set of wires that used to go to the battery. I see now that those go to motor out and the device sits between that and my ryobi 40v. I modded two old chargers as my battery base and connected them in parallel for extended life should I need that 😜
does it have to be ryobi? I am having a hard time justifying the 100+ battery. lol no off brand or is that gonna just turn it into an expensive fireball?
So i brought a huffy torex utv 24v for my kids this Christmas, everything works fine but i wish i could have more time on battery life, it last about 30 min when is full and then charge it for 12 hrs, i wonder how much time this 40v would give? I been thinking on do battery upgrade but this seems more beneficial, idk what motors this torex have, all i know is that is 4x4 and runs about 10 mph, again im not looking for more power or speed, i just want more time, do you think doing what you did would give more runtime? Thank you in advance!
You could run your torex off 20v lithium tool batteries. You would just need to double the current AmpHours available in your battery setup now. I would recommend purchasing a large 5/6 amp hour tool battery (or a few of them) and just hot swap them as needed. You can find adapters on amazon and ebay for many tool batteries. I'm not sure how 40v would work on that model, it may fry electronics that aren't good for 40v input.
So in my experience or lack of I find them able to put way more voltage to them if I wire the motors in series instead of parallel and for the brake put in some kind of resistance so that it doesn't just immediately try to stop using the break to try to stop it at 15 miles an hour seems to tear up the engines. Also I've had zero survive at 48 volts with car batteries but 36 V wired in series seems to be okay also 44 V using two car batteries and 1 20 volt drill battery. 😀 My ultimate goal is 30 mph so far all I can get is about 22. I'm going to put in a voltage resistor and slowly ramp in the 48 volts and see if I can get it up to 30mph.
When you have the two motors in series you are dividing the voltage effectively in half to each motor. Additionally in series the resistances of the motors will be greater and reduce the current flow. Hooked up in parallel each motor will see 40V and resistances will be lower resulting in more current to each motor. In general, the lower current will result in lower speed output of the motor. Overall getting less out of the motor compared to 40V but it's also preventing the motors from getting destroyed.
I saw in other videos that batteries used in tools are only configured to prevent themselves from totally depleting when used with tools of the same brand, so you still should use a fuse if you use them
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
Depends on the size of your motors/power wheel. Running the pwm controller at 55% with a 40v battery seems to hold up well. Mines be going consistently for over a year. Anything above 55% causes excessive heat and damage so don't run it higher than that. Using a 20v tool battery would be fine at 100%. I used the 40v battery because I had a bunch of them laying around. Make sure to unhook any accessories like radios or lights before the mod because they can't handle the higher voltage.
Nice work and tutorial. 👍 In my case, I am about to purchase the Peg Perego 12v John Deere tractor for my grandson. It has the other electronic features....radio etc.... If I was only looking to increase the usage time, couldn't I just upgrade the 12v battery to an increased amps per hour rating? Like from a 8 ah to like a 36 ah without the possibility of damaging anything? Of course a longer run time would increase the heat on the motors. Any thoughts on that? Thanks.
Running a larger 12v lead acid battery would allow for much longer run times. If the tractor has space for a larger battery I would do that! No damage to the radio lights and other accessories.
@@Jasonoid , WOW....thanks for the fast reply! Yes.....there's a TH-cam video of someone running a large auto battery in the same toy tractor. Thanks again. 👍
@@PTucker0864 I’m not sure but I think the watt hours also need be looked into because I think if it’s a high wh battery then that might damage the electronics but I cannot be certain.
@@Alexander_l322 , the battery only controls the motors on that John Deere. What I did was hook 2 batteries in series that would fit under the hood. No complaints so far.
That should work, BUT the benefit of the PWM controller is to be able to control the max speed for your kid. So if they are learning you can turn down the speed by dropping the voltage, if they have practice you can turn it up to a higher voltage/speed. Voltage controls the speed of the motors, amperage isn't that big to worry about. The PWM controller I used in the video is listed in the video description, I can't remember the exact specs for it.
Turning it up high gives it an electronic burning smell, I'd keep it under 55% on the knob. I'm sure you can do this same pwm controller with your jeep and it would behave similar. My barbie mustang has 2 motors, does your jeep?
@@Jasonoid had it going for about an hour going up hill and down on a road. Doesn't seem to lower in voltage. 90° weather right now. No overheating. No way to adjust voltage though.
@@Jasonoid well i bought it used for 5$. No battery so needed something to work on it. Gears grinding ehen i had a normal 12v battery on it. Don't wanna mess it up more so will have to stay at 5 mph for like 3 hours of run time for now. When and i do get upgrades, if the wife allows, i will try to get the metal gears and rip it.
There are many brands of these battery powered cars, this mod will work on most cars if they have a simple setup. Some cars have an RC controller and this will not work on those.
My power wheels was an old fashioned model with nothing but a gas pedal and forward and reverse switch. No radio, no lights, no controller. If you have those fancy features they probably require a lower voltage and won't work with a higher voltage like this.
You'd be safe using these same components with a 18v tool battery. I used the Ryobi 40v because that's what I already had for my electric scooter project. It's been holding up fine, I never go above 55%, nothing burning yet
**UPDATE: Putting a higher voltage into your power wheels could damage other electronics onboard (Radio, lights and so forth). If you plan on doing these modifications, UNPLUG those electronics before applying higher voltages. You will not be able to use those electronics while running over 14volts. The motors can handle the extra load BUT lights and radios could be damaged since they are only designed for 12 volts. **
Also, this modification works very well with 20v tool batteries as well, no need to go out and purchase a Ryobi 40volt battery if you don't have one.
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This set up dosnt work with the smart drive mustang. Bought all shown supplies and dosnt work. Keeps overloading the board
Also the links you have for the controller is no longer the controller you have
For other ride-ons that have a circuit board (music, steering motor, R/C etc) can you install this as a "Boost" to the motors between the circuit board and the motors? You keep the original battery connected that way the board does not get damage with the increase in voltage?. Just an idea, I'm toying with this..im not an engineer
@@FernandoLarez I had a friend with a car that used a circuit board. He found a replacement one online that supported up to 24volts and then used a 20v tool battery to boost his speed. It worked really well. Just see if you can get one that supports 24v instead of 12v.
this guy is nice enough to explain how it works and installation. GOOD
Such a fun project, very easy as well. Would recommend!
Works great! From dad to dad I thank you for this shortcut. As you know, our free time to figure stuff out is minimal. Thanks!!!
My boy has a bigger power wheels jeep two person. All I did was cut off the wires from the jeep plug stick on some adapter plugs and plug it into my 5amp hour, 20volt dewalt straight. His jeep will hit 13km with him on it. He now loves it. You do have to watch that the battery does not run down too far, or the battery is ruined! I let him drive around 20 minutes or so then check the battery and charge as needed.
The pwm controller is only there to adjust the speed. If you want it to run max speed all the time your option works great! As for the battery running down too low. Some tools have low voltage battery protection in the tool, and some have low voltage protection in the battery, you can Google that to verify with your specific battery!
I’m an FPV pilot and for my one daughter 1st bday I got her a car and she loves it. It uses a crappy 2.4 remote and I’ve always wanted to add a 915 system and connect it to my drone radio. You have inspired me to start it! And she tossed the remote in the trash without us knowing and they want 30 bucks for that piece of plastic lol
Sounds like a great project! Just be careful of the higher voltage batteries damaging your radio equipment (I'm sure youll keep the power systems separate). Let me know how it turns out!
I tend to like the Ryobi One+ batteries, because they lift straight out. If you have room for them, you can mount them permanently, and they won't need to be removed, to slide the battery out. The current model adapter even has its own power switch.
Just did this exact mod, pink barbie power wheels jeep. SO easy and works like a charm. Thanks for the walkthough! I used your amazon links to make the purchases.
Thanks for watching, just be careful above 55% on the controller, my motors got hot real quick! This thing flies haha
This absolutely worked great on our power wheels jeep that hadn’t been usable in a few years. You rock!
U got URSELF a SUBSCRIBER in me. Thank u for the attention to detail
Thank you for posting! All the other videos just show their kids driving the power wheels. No disrespect to them but I didn’t come for that I came for the explanation. You earned a new subscriber.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :D
I bought a power wheel from goodwill for $100 and this is the first thing i thought about lol it has good sized gaps in the body i cant wait lol
YOU, SIR, ARE A SAINT! And a scholar!!!!! Thank you for this!!!!!
Hi, the Amazon linked motor speed adapter is no longer available. Can you post a replacement?
I pushed 40v in my daughters Vette and I blew both motors in 4 seconds. Cheap to replace, lesson learned. No way the 550 motors can take 40v EVER! Maybe a 750 could take a few minutes but the best is using a dewalt 20v and its solid, cannot beat it.
Just run it at 50% and you'll get longer run times with 40v than 20v. But yeah, my motors only got hot once and I turned it down quick.
What motors did you put in? I just put a 40v in my sons and it burned out the motor in 1 minute
If you use a fuse inbetween your battery lead and electric panel you can prevent damage to the motor
I used same pwm controller....kept burning up my boards instantly. I bypassed it and no issues....20v dewalt battery though. Just ordered a 40v ryobi, gunna throw it in the 2nd car n see what it do
I've seen 18 volt battery go faster than that. Is there other upgrades you can do to make it fast. Like to doughnuts in the winter with studded tires fast
The PWM controller you used/linked isn't available anymore. Any others to suggest in its place?
Could you use a step down converter for the lights, radio etc?
Hi, great job!! I'm making the same modification to my daughter's car, I wanted to ask you if you connected the controller directly to the two wires (positive and negative) that come from the original control unit of the car (where the lights, radio etc are connected)
it is pretty working great. i have a question why the PWM controller is getting hot? i touched the outside the metal box. it was pretty hot and stop moving but still on. little help please
Youve a voice of preacher. Great video also
Haha, thanks!
So I bought a ride on for my daughter the ride on is a 24v utv 2 motor and already comes with a controller that has a read out on it when I add the 40v and turn it up to 60% the readout on the car turn from 24 to 35v would the current controller in the car limit how much I can push the car and can I go more due to the 24v motors ?
Just dont push it the best part of this mod is the hot swappable batteries dont go too much higher than the normal voltage of the car it can cause alot of problems. I modded 2 of my kids powerwheels with ryobi 18v system withe the same speed controller and they drive until they dont wanna drive anymore not because the battery died. Powerwheels should adopt this system and even remove the speed controller it would still be awesome for the kids.
Can you wire the 40v battery straight to the car with an inline fuse without going through the controller? What are the risks of doing this? I have wired an M18 milwaukee battery to our power wheels but the kids want more speed 😅.
Were you able to get it to operate in reverse without flipping the PWM switch?
Thanks. It will be great gift for my nephews.
I recently attempted this mod, and the speed controller just click and nothing works, any assistance would be appreciated.
Mine too I burn the controller
Did you have to open the Dewalt battery to connect the wires to it.
Just got the same one for free not working so I’m looking forward to it, controller no longer on Amazon will find one similar
Did you find an alternative controller that worked?
Great video but can you describe how you made the gas pedal fit into the mechanics of that, how does the controller know when the gas pedal is being pressed
Hey Drake, the controller is on, it's always putting out the set power/voltage, pressing the gas pedal just closes the circuit and puts electricity to the wheels. The pedal acts like a switch basically.
@@Jasonoid where does the gas pedal wires go, do they fit into the controller
They go straight to the shifter (which adjusts power direction) and then goes to the motors
How much power can it safely take. I put a ryobi 18v in a 12v power wheels and it can now do 6.8mph instead of 4.5. We have a 24v ride in toy also that I want to give more power as it’s an ATV with 4 200w motors making it a true 4x4
I like this idea, but my daughters jeep has the option of 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive. It also has 3 speeds and parental remote. It has 4 motors. One at each wheel. How could I do this?
Great vid! Can I do this mod on my sons Lamborghini Urus SUV??
Any electronics might be damaged with the higher voltage so unplug those before doing the mod (radio lights and so forth). Using a 20v tool battery is best because the motors won't get quite as hot and burn up.
hi jasonoid. This upgrade was great but all of the sudden my 30 amp fuse is blowing on all four of my powerwheels. they were fine and running for hours. What could be causing the sudden change on numerous cars/
Great little upgrade project. Thanks for sharing that.
Thanks for watching!
I've got an ego 56v battery. Can you post a link for a speed controller that can handle that?
How fast does it go now?
Can’t wait to try this with my kids thanks
Is the stock battery still hooked up in the car?
Great explanation on how to do it. I do have a couple of questions. I have a Huffy Torex Atv, it is 24v but it has 2 motors. Can I put both motors on the same output channel? Or do I need a 2 output controller? Also, can I leave the original 40A controller with the original battery aside to use the lights, etc, and make the 40v conversion just for the motors.
Im trying to do the same, how did it work out?
Would I be correct to assume this basic wire diagram for the perego brand power wheels? Great video
This is a power wheel brand so not sure what other brands would be.
This is amazing! Do i need the speed controller if i use an 18v ryobi battery?
No, just plug in your 18v Ryobi and let er rip!
All u need is a higher AH battery most are AH 7 u can go to 10 same volts 12 v just the AH is longer lasting so u don't fry nothing up
So my son has the grave digger powers wheels which is a 24v system. Since your going from 12v to 40v in theory i shouldnt have an issue
If you have fancy electronics (lights, radios and such) those probably won't be compatible with your power wheel and might be damaged with the higher voltage. The one I used in the video was Plain Jane and had nothing but the motors and battery.
Pretty cool , have a dual motor Range Rover planing to modify , but I’m sure I’ll need a lot more than just battery and control unit , any suggestions ?
The battery and controller should be all you need, you'll want to unhook any other electronics like headlights and radios since they can't handle the higher voltages.
Was it a 24v prior to build?
No
Any controls there to prevent the battery from over draining?
That is built into the Ryobi battery itself.
Stock motors? Do you keep it at 50% to protect the motors ? I ran a 40v without pwm and it lasted about 10 minutes before it burned up 1 of the motors
i am doing a project similar to this will Putting 40 volts burnout the motor or the radio in the vehicle and what is the ( mph ) if you can give me a reply I would love that
Awesome video dude. Thank you for layin it out the way you did. Fantastic work bro
Thanks!
Did you take out the restricting screw that makes it three speed well to speed and reverse
I am curious about this as well. Mine will not go in reverse now or the lower speed. What needs to be done at this point. Thanks in advanced.
Interesting I setup my kids Jeep Wrangler power wheel with (2) 18 volt Makita batteries and a speed controller. Mine doesn’t look as quick as yours, I’m guessing different models have different motors in them.
I run my batteries near 24 volts so just a little higher than 18 volts. (55% on the knob of the pwm controller).
this is my stupid question would a black and decker 40 volt be as good or is Ryobi the better battery.
What kind of gearbox did you use. Because I know if you use a 24v gearbox overtime you can blow them up. If you use a higher voltage battery.
Everything is stock except the battery and pwm controller. Running at 55% or lower works fine, so a 24v battery would perform the same. No damage to my gearboxes yet and it's been going for over a year weekly.
Is stock voltage 12 or 6
12v in my model
I seen so many burn up they control board any way to avoid that I was thinking getting ride of my accessories but idk if my control board would still handle it?
I hope I can find a battery tray for my kobalt batterys , I've already got the car.
You should be able to find a custom tray on ebay for them.
Well, how long did the motors last? Did you burn up any of the controls?
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
Very cool! Couldn't a guy just wire up an inline dimmer between the battery and motor lead, or is the controller unit absolutely necessary? 🤔
There are probably many ways to do it. This way just gives you the most consistent power output. Thanks for watching!
Do u really need a pwm?
Did you still use the stock controller too because I’m wondering how you got the gas pedal to work
Mine is an 'old school' power wheels, no remote control, no lights, no radio, no smart controller. Just a battery, forward or reverse switch, gas pedal and motors.
So with you running at 20ish volts no problems one wouldn’t need a PCM if they wanted to run an 18v ryobi, just take the adapter for the battery straight into the existing wiring. Would that be correct?
Yeah, would work prefect. Only 1 speed though, the pwm allows for speed control
I have several dewalt 20v batteries that a larger amp hour, and several large ryobi 18v batteries, do you think either would make a good battery for this or should I use this as an excuse to get into the ryobi 40v line up lol
They will work great, just find an adapter that will work with your battery, no need to do 40v.
How do the batteries hold up with getting drained faster and lower then normal? Or do you even have to worry about draining the batteries to extremely low levels repeatedly with this set up?
I have multiple batteries so I rotate through them. This uses the same power as a weed Wacker so not more power draw than normal. The batteries have held up fine.
Did u upgrade the gearboxes?? I want to do my kids but let me know if u did please
Stock gearboxes, mine has twin motors so less stress on each motor/gearbox. If yours has one motor just mod it an 18volt battery or 24 volt battery max.
How fast does 100% go and will this burn out motors quicker?
100% will burn up the motors and grind the plastic gears. I'd recommend 55% or less.
I have a 56v ego leaf blower battery I want to try this o. The grave digger monster truck
If your power wheels has other electronics like radios and headlights, you'll want to unhook those since they can't handle the higher voltage.
Hi I like the video but could u show me how the motor wires go from the motor to the speed controller because I'm finding it hard to do it do they both go together then in to the speed controller or does the red wire of the motor go to one bit and the black go in to the other
The video shows the wiring. The battery wires go to the battery connection on the PWM controller, the motor connect to the motor connections on the PWM controller.
Did you burn out the motor?
Have you had any issues with your speed controller burning up. I have had 2 burn up and haven't pushed pass 40% power. Also have you had issues with the ryobi battery shutting down from to much power being pulled at once. I'm thinking about adding a accelerator pedal so that power is gradually increased. Thanks for the info
The Ryobi batteries do shut down if there are too many amps pulled. Happens all the time when I am edging my sidewalk with my edger attachment. I have seen it happen with my power wheel if I have it turned up past 50 and it has lots of weight in there, two large kiddos.
Still on my first pwm controller no issues with mine. Not sure why yours have failed.
Battery keeps shutting down did you find remedy
That means the battery has too many amps being pulled and it's shutting off from over current protection. Maybe the motors are bigger than mine and pulling too many amps from the battery.
@@malcolm3.0 I have the same issue. Did you find a solution?
My daughters car also has a remote so i can control it for her, would this still work?
The controller board won't accept the higher voltage, it will get fried. You can search for a "24 volt" controller board for your model and you can run a 20v tool battery as a replacement.
Fried my motors possibly. Attached the 40v to the adapter and turned it on. Instantly heard a loud pop and the lights flickered. Seems like I needed to step down the voltage. Is that controller what I'm missing?
Every powerwheels is a little different. My power wheels was super old fashioned and had no electronics inside (radio, lights, speakers) so there was nothing to fry. The newer models have electronics that aren't designed for voltages above 12v. To keep my motors from burning up I usually run my pwm controller at 50 - 55% power. That's a fast speed for my kids.
Is there a craftsman 20v adapter
So do you only need the pwm speed controller for brushless motors
The pwm controller controls the rpms of the motors. Without the pwm controller it would be 100% speed all the time. My motors are brushed so youd need a special motor controller for brushless motors, kinda like a rc brushless esc.
I’m just a grandma trying to do something like this for my grandkids. I’m just wondering if I could do this with a Hitachi 1820L battery? It is a Ni-cad 18 v battery. Is there an adapter that would make this work? Thanks!
Thanks for video! I'm halfway through a build on my kids dune racer. The dune racer has two rear Motors. Can I daisy chain those Motors against this device since it only has output for 1 motor?
If you connect the PWM controller to the motors, it will run both of them. Just make sure they are connected in parallel. I didn't need to make any changes to my wiring, I just connected it to the stock wires so you may want to do that.
@@Jasonoid BLUF: I need to go stock wires that used to go to 12v to device motor out - device - battery out to ryobi base. Appreciate the quick reply! I see now. I have 1 set of wires that used to go to the battery. I see now that those go to motor out and the device sits between that and my ryobi 40v. I modded two old chargers as my battery base and connected them in parallel for extended life should I need that 😜
does it have to be ryobi? I am having a hard time justifying the 100+ battery. lol no off brand or is that gonna just turn it into an expensive fireball?
Use any 20v battery and run it at 100%, it will go just as fast! Adapters are available on eBay for lots of 20v tool battery brands
My son has a huffy torex 24v original battery. Do you recommend to do the Milwaukee adapter upgrade?
Did it work? I’m planning to do the same
So i brought a huffy torex utv 24v for my kids this Christmas, everything works fine but i wish i could have more time on battery life, it last about 30 min when is full and then charge it for 12 hrs, i wonder how much time this 40v would give? I been thinking on do battery upgrade but this seems more beneficial, idk what motors this torex have, all i know is that is 4x4 and runs about 10 mph, again im not looking for more power or speed, i just want more time, do you think doing what you did would give more runtime? Thank you in advance!
You could run your torex off 20v lithium tool batteries. You would just need to double the current AmpHours available in your battery setup now. I would recommend purchasing a large 5/6 amp hour tool battery (or a few of them) and just hot swap them as needed. You can find adapters on amazon and ebay for many tool batteries.
I'm not sure how 40v would work on that model, it may fry electronics that aren't good for 40v input.
So in my experience or lack of I find them able to put way more voltage to them if I wire the motors in series instead of parallel and for the brake put in some kind of resistance so that it doesn't just immediately try to stop using the break to try to stop it at 15 miles an hour seems to tear up the engines. Also I've had zero survive at 48 volts with car batteries but 36 V wired in series seems to be okay also 44 V using two car batteries and 1 20 volt drill battery. 😀 My ultimate goal is 30 mph so far all I can get is about 22. I'm going to put in a voltage resistor and slowly ramp in the 48 volts and see if I can get it up to 30mph.
When you have the two motors in series you are dividing the voltage effectively in half to each motor. Additionally in series the resistances of the motors will be greater and reduce the current flow. Hooked up in parallel each motor will see 40V and resistances will be lower resulting in more current to each motor. In general, the lower current will result in lower speed output of the motor.
Overall getting less out of the motor compared to 40V but it's also preventing the motors from getting destroyed.
How does that 40v battery not burn up thr 12v motors?
Soo.. no need to upgrade motors and gears???
What is the advantage of the pwm vs a perimeter?
Is it one PWM Motor Speed Controller per motor?
Just one for the entire setup since the motors are wired together.
How have you not damaged the 12v motors ?
I run this mostly at 55% power, which is around 24v. Best balance of runtime and speed.
mine stopped letting me adjust the speed, it’s just 100% all the time?
Did you change the motor or the transmission gear ?
Only changed the battery voltage, stock motors and transmission. Best results will be using 24v batteries.
Any idea why some mods include inline fuses? Great video - looking forward to breathing life into a dead power wheels.
Just for safety, these 40v batteries have built in fuses though so no worries. Most tool batteries do as well.
@@Jasonoid Awesome - thanks. I've got a 40v 4ah ready to go.
I saw in other videos that batteries used in tools are only configured to prevent themselves from totally depleting when used with tools of the same brand, so you still should use a fuse if you use them
@@nationalisthomestead4528 I added a fuse as a cautionary measure.
40 volts won't damage the motors?
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
Does this not burn out the motors and wires???
Depends on the size of your motors/power wheel. Running the pwm controller at 55% with a 40v battery seems to hold up well. Mines be going consistently for over a year. Anything above 55% causes excessive heat and damage so don't run it higher than that.
Using a 20v tool battery would be fine at 100%. I used the 40v battery because I had a bunch of them laying around. Make sure to unhook any accessories like radios or lights before the mod because they can't handle the higher voltage.
does it have to be 2.6AH
does this work with all types of these electric toy cars? No powerwheels here in the =eU
I'd recommend a 20v to 24v battery instead so it doesn't burn the motors
Nice work and tutorial. 👍
In my case, I am about to purchase the Peg Perego 12v John Deere tractor for my grandson.
It has the other electronic features....radio etc....
If I was only looking to increase the usage time, couldn't I just upgrade the 12v battery to an increased amps per hour rating?
Like from a 8 ah to like a 36 ah without the possibility of damaging anything?
Of course a longer run time would increase the heat on the motors.
Any thoughts on that?
Thanks.
Running a larger 12v lead acid battery would allow for much longer run times. If the tractor has space for a larger battery I would do that! No damage to the radio lights and other accessories.
@@Jasonoid , WOW....thanks for the fast reply!
Yes.....there's a TH-cam video of someone running a large auto battery in the same toy tractor. Thanks again. 👍
@@PTucker0864 I’m not sure but I think the watt hours also need be looked into because I think if it’s a high wh battery then that might damage the electronics but I cannot be certain.
@@Alexander_l322 , the battery only controls the motors on that John Deere.
What I did was hook 2 batteries in series that would fit under the hood.
No complaints so far.
What about using a DC 48V Step Down to 24V 30A 720W Voltage Reducer Converter. The issue I am having is the PWM only controls voltage when under load.
That should work, BUT the benefit of the PWM controller is to be able to control the max speed for your kid. So if they are learning you can turn down the speed by dropping the voltage, if they have practice you can turn it up to a higher voltage/speed. Voltage controls the speed of the motors, amperage isn't that big to worry about. The PWM controller I used in the video is listed in the video description, I can't remember the exact specs for it.
so we have the 40v kobalt jeep. this definitely goes faster. anything you suggest?
Turning it up high gives it an electronic burning smell, I'd keep it under 55% on the knob. I'm sure you can do this same pwm controller with your jeep and it would behave similar. My barbie mustang has 2 motors, does your jeep?
Gonna try it out for now. Still reads 40v coming out going to the motors. Hopefully this all works.
interesting, can you adjust the percentage at all? 40v will be super fast!
@@Jasonoid had it going for about an hour going up hill and down on a road. Doesn't seem to lower in voltage. 90° weather right now. No overheating. No way to adjust voltage though.
@@chadace8010 how fast is it going? Like over 10mph?
@@Jasonoid well i bought it used for 5$. No battery so needed something to work on it. Gears grinding ehen i had a normal 12v battery on it. Don't wanna mess it up more so will have to stay at 5 mph for like 3 hours of run time for now. When and i do get upgrades, if the wife allows, i will try to get the metal gears and rip it.
is this for power wheels only?
There are many brands of these battery powered cars, this mod will work on most cars if they have a simple setup. Some cars have an RC controller and this will not work on those.
Hey there. I tired this and my control board popped. What board do you have or what board upgrade did you do? Thanks!
My power wheels was an old fashioned model with nothing but a gas pedal and forward and reverse switch. No radio, no lights, no controller. If you have those fancy features they probably require a lower voltage and won't work with a higher voltage like this.
How is it holding up? Looking to do this for a used f150 but have been reading about that higher voltage burning up motors and other electronics.
You'd be safe using these same components with a 18v tool battery. I used the Ryobi 40v because that's what I already had for my electric scooter project.
It's been holding up fine, I never go above 55%, nothing burning yet
@@Jasonoid sweet going to give it a try with the same Ryobi batteries, had a few laying around after a lawnmower quit working. Thanks for the video!
Anything over 18v on stock motors will pop them eventually.
Can you use the 40v 6amp battery?
Yep, it would just last way longer!
Does this run through the original 12v throttle controller?
No