I Figured Out What DeWALT's Huge $400 Battery is For😄(Kids Power Wheels)
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1.5 year Update: She's a bit older now and on setting 2 for ALL the fun, loves it. The car's been holding together just great, loosing traction is probably key.
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Be careful, most dewalt batteries do not have internal low voltage protection. Meaning you can over discharge them like this and the charger will refuse to recharge them seeing the lower than expected voltage as damage. There are tricks to getting them to recharge however a cheap low voltage dropout circuit needs to be added to protect the battery.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r 6:14 agreed. The battery's display going down to one bar is enough to switch it over to the lead acid or another DeWalt for us. You usually have a decent 10-20 min window there too.
@@TorqueTestChannel I wonder if Ryobi wouldn't be an ideal option, as if I recall correctly the batteries all have low voltage protection built into it.
@@TorqueTestChannel That works as long as people know that and keep en eye on it. I do these types of projects with tool batteries often and generally use my Ridgids as they have protection. Also there are some great cheap batteries on the market to do these projects with, unfortunately that is why they are cheap, all of the load balancing is in the charger and protection is in the tool and not the battery. Im sure you know this, it is more of a tidbit of info for the people who may now try it since watching this.
@@elijahwatson8119 Just about any tool that is using a battery platform from the earliest lithium tools like Ryobi / Ridgid have the balancing and protection built in. You can usually search and see which ones do. But there are also a couple of ways to get a good idea by just looking at the battery and price at least when it is name brand vs namebrand. Cheap batteries like Kobalt for example are good batteries but significantly cheaper because the load balancing is in the charger and protection is in the tool. And secondly look at the number of pins the battery has. If it only has about 4 actual terminals the protection is probably in the battery. If it has multiple small connections then load balancing is definitely in the charger which is a good indication that the oc protection is likely in the tool. One exception all batteries should have over current protection in the form of a non replaceable fuse to prevent fire. Ones with built in protection have a fuse and an overcurrent cut off that protectes the battery and fuse. Consider a current limiting device if you are using a battery with it not built in as well.
Nothing is so wholesome as spending quality time with your kid(s)...and playing with their toys! Kids need their fathers in their lives, too!
They do need father's ! 💪🏼
If she ain't a daddy's girl now, I really hope this mod really helped.
"Awww, are you watching the daka-daka channel?"
(Well, to elaborate, the little one lumps all the technical/tool/AvE channels I watch under "daka-daka", this channel would technically be "beans" or "Ugga-Duggas" in her system)
Start them young, they won't need no stinkin' boyfriend to change their flats.
😂 my dads always busy but i could see this being very fun if i was just liker her age lol
Have the 10 amp hour dewalt on my sons 12v mustang. Major improvement. Huge fan of the channel man. Being a father myself I can tell just by the way you interact with your daughter your an awesome Dad. I love the family interaction content from the tool channels. I think it’s something we need to incorporate more often on our channels. 👊👊👊 keep up the awesome work my man
That battery was a helluva bit on EBay from part outs. $110 plus tax and free shipping.
@@Daddy_Daiwa sure was
You and Torque are both awesome dads!
@@jonathansherwood5841 appreciate that Jonathan. How’s things goin man?
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you are.
You replaced an $80 battery with a $400 battery. I love it.
My exact same thought, already had the battery I guess.
Mo powa babeh
Although we all know a smaller ah can be picked up cheaper, I wonder how many times the lead acid would need to be replaced vs the Dewalt. My experience with the small lead acid batteries is that while they start with good current and decent runtime this fades off rater quick as they are constantly being deep cycled.
@@TheCharleseye and most likely many many more recharge cycles as well.
Those doing this mod are using batteries they already have so it's $0.
As a father myself...hearing my own daughter's giggle makes every day a great one!
She's having so much fun. I always wanted one of those when I was a kid, but we couldn't afford it. Now that I have kids, I got some for them, and it's so awesome seeing them drive around smiling.
Same here brother 👊
First few years of my life was like 60% hamburger helper so I feel ya😂😂
@@rileymannion5301 👊🤣
@@rileymannion5301 Is that like Panburger Partner for rich people? 😉
@@ScottRipley nah it's boxed beef stroganoff like panburger partner, panburger is just the off brand version which in Canada when I was growing up we didn't get, only hamburger helper lol
C’mon man let her in Speed 2
Gotta unlock that 2nd speed let her really feel the beans!
Dont tell her about speed 2 hahaha
At her age if I had one of these… I would’ve already unlocked 2nd gear by myself…and I would’ve stolen my dads battery out of the lawn mower and hooked it up
@@tjlovesrachel sorry bad ass
Been doing this for years. Ebay sells kits to connect batteries like to to many things.
And let her go to 2nd gear. She'll learn how to drift.
Agreed. She’s a TTC representative lol.
They will need new tires soon.
What can I search the kits under ?
Brings back memories of doing the same almost 20yrs ago, although with nicad batteries. The surprise on their faces and all the laughter was priceless.
Probably wouldn't be too hard to add a simple low voltage cut off circuit to protect the battery. Thanks guys, looks like a fun time.
DeWalt batteries have an internal BMS which will protect the cells from over charge and over discharge. I have run my batteries until they cut off by themselves with no adverse effects. The DeWalt battery is 15-21 volt battery while lead acid is usually 10-14.2 volts, which is why the Power Wheels moves faster
@@winmancaboose For instance Milwaukee M18s packs won't protect themselves. When I run regular 5.0 to zero charge (i.e. to a point where any M18 tool wouldn't even start), and then when I put it on a noname 18V leaf blower that has 3D printed adaptor for M18s batteries, it would still run, which would leave me to believe the battery itself won't shut down past 15 V and it will provide power even past the critical point (
@@carsandtools Ryobi batteries won't protect themselves from running down past 14V. I've had a handful 1.5 and 2Ah batteries get "bricked" from non-use and won't take a charge. But I was able to jump start these by opening them up and using a fresh battery and wires to bring them up to the minimal voltage required to take a charge.
I guess it would work the same on an M18 battery, though
I hot rodded my sons car and he kept driving until it wouldn’t move and bricked the batteries. I jumped them and got one to take a charge. The other one it happened to never worked again.
@@luisinhoens90 Ryobi batteries are known for self discharge due to the BMS not being constructed properly, newer ones seem to not have this problem.
Put a low voltage cutoff module set to 16,2v inline with the battery….. you’re gonna kill it if you discharge it too low. There is no protection inside the dewalt battery. If you used a ryobi battery you wouldn’t need to worry about that as they have cutoff circuitry internally
@@TheCharleseye Having the protection circuits in the battery does not make it inherently better though as long as you stick with the intended usecase, where that protection circuitry is build into the tool. In theory building the circuits into the tool can(!) reduce production overhead and therefore cost, at no downside for the customer really. For the average customer this definitely is not a matter of better or worse, as it makes no difference as long as you dont tinker with it.
@@TheCharleseye having the LVC in the Battery is am incredibly inefficient design and as long as you use the dewalt battery in dewalt tools the LVC in the tool takes care of it….. ryobi does that so they can brag about backwards compatibility to their NI-CD tools
@@TheCharleseye well of course it can happen especially if the battery gets cold or there are multiple days between it getting drained and getting charged back up ….. not arguing anything
@@TheCharleseye I had to do that a lot (jump starting the battery so that it would charge) with my Milwaukee 9.0 Ah HD. I was still using it almost daily (carpentry) for another almost year or two, when it finally got to the point it couldn't even be jump started anymore, so I took it apart and it finally dawned on me that all along one/some of the cells went bad. I manually balanced the five cells, and got another 6 months out of the battery; now it's finally dead and waiting for refurbishing. Still debating whether to tackle it myself (I would need to get a spot welder) or whether to send it off to someone who actually knows what are they doing.
@@TheCharleseye I've jump started a few Ryobi batteries, some of them were even brand new but DOA (mostly 1.5Ah and 2Ah batteries), but have never needed to do so on my DeWalt, Milwaukee nor Bosch batteries. And I've owned many from the cheapo 1.5Ah to 6Ah ones.
Perhaps the 3Ah and bigger Ryobi batteries have such protection because I've never needed to jump start those ones, but the smaller ones definitely don't have such feature.
Anyway it's a quick 15 minute fix I've mastered over the years.
Been doing this since the 90s.
Lately (last few years), Sloppy Mechanics had a good series of videos on Milwaukee powered kid's vehicles. Since, loads of parents out there have been posting good conversion videos here on TH-cam.
Usually shreds out the plastic gearboxes, eventually. Keeping the voltage close to OEM is unsatisfyingly slow but safer for longevity.
Voltage cutoff boards are really inexpensive and help keep any under charge/over discharge situations from bricking those pricey battery packs.
My buddy did this for his son. He also installed a voltage regulator so it's not too fast. The downside is It's easy to discharge the batteries too much then they won't charge. A low voltage disconnect would be a good idea.
WHEELSPIN!!! IT burns out now! That's awesome. My older kids have one of the electric quads that Razor makes. It didn't take me long to replace the lead acid with a lithium ion creation of my own that weighs less, lasts longer, and goes faster. Oh ya... and it's smaller so I was able (later on) to build and install a smaller pack with its own leads as a reserve so it can always make it back under power if they run it too low.
The best part about mods like this is run time and recharge time. Running 2 batteries in parallel, with just 6 batteries you can keep the vehicle running near continuously. The lead acids are just a waste of time, weight, and energy, plus when they aren’t using it you still have use of the batteries. You can add a managed battery controller which can manage the max and min voltages. I have a ton of chargers and actually used 2 of them in parallel and with a few solid state relays actually allow charging the packs in place, though even at 4/5 the kids are smart enough to swop the batteries. I like modding the chargers as battery sockets as they have enough room for the extra items needed to make mist things dual voltage and allows you to make things like LED work lights a hell of a lot cheaper, and more functional than DeWalts own products.
I would use it for driving screws with an impact... It's perfectly sized
Yep 15Ah is also perfect for the new dewalt 20V ratchet
@@genius3258 not even bulky or anything 😅
used a discharge controller with a programmable low voltage cut off when I did something similar. works great to avoid trashing the battery.
What is a discharge controller?
@@Inalienablerights15 Shut the device off/cuts power when it hits a certain low point He mentioned this at 6:20 ish. Running a battery completely dead like that is bad for it and ill kill it fast. Some controllers help to prevent damage to expensive batteries and/or components that need specific values.
I have the same Peg Porego for my daughter. I swapped in a 5ah Makita battery and this thing burns through motors. The driver side motor always goes first so I recommend upgrading the pair to one that is rated for 24v when you inevitably burn it out. Make sure to keep extra fuses in the car with the battery because you’ll pop those too when transitioning from pavement to grass. A 5 ah battery lasts about 30 minutes comfortably. I always bring two just in case and In 30 min of runtime, the battery doesn’t even get warm.
Now upgrade the motor to brushless! If you're worried about the battery voltage, Amazon (et.al.) sell low-voltage battery disconnect 'circuits', which are just a board with a relay and a setting for cutout voltage. When the input voltage drops below the setting, the battery is disconnected. Most of them have a 20A relay, which might be good enough for your ride-on toy, but you could use that relay to drive a larger external relay, delivering whatever current you need. Great channel, cheers!
This is a great idea. I'm not sure exactly how this 15 ah dw battery is made, but from my understanding, all previous dw batteries have no battery protection and instead rely on battery protection in the tool, where's other brands like Milwaukee have battery protection built in the battery. That's why I'm a bit hesitant about using my DW batteries with adapters in other brand tools. Would be a shame to kill a $400 battery by discharging it too much.
@@Fpsnut Same thing for over temperature, it’s up to the tool to read the battery probe.
Its actually very difficult to do but not impossible. Brushless motors are shaped differently which makes them difficult to attach. Also the shaft and the number of teeth on the cog that come with the motor has to be the correct amount of teeth and correct size cog, if not it will destroy the cars grearing.
Lame. You should have pulled the full 60 volts. The motor might have burnt out in four seconds, but what a glorious four seconds that would be! 😅
Your the only lame here clown
You'll have to keep us updated how well the motor handles it. Been looking to convert my son's over but most said you should use a buck converter to bring the voltage down. Either way, great job dad!!
Will do. Around 5hrs worth so far no issues
@b gg Not sure if TTC deleted my comment or YT did. There's kits on amazon around $20-30 that include a buck converter and a DeWalt battery adapter. Sure, you might not gain any beans but my intent is just to have easily swappable batteries compared to the lead acid.
My little ones car needs this done as well, that battery is starting to show its age. Might try one of my older dewalt batteries I have around for kicks.
You could get a better vehicle for him you know? The 5 year old neighbor kid had a 2-stroke ATV since he was 4 and now also a 50cc dirtbike. These electric toys seem a bit overprotective, time to step up.
i did m12's for my sons 6volt power wheels when he was small and then when we got the 12v power wheels bois i put m18 sockets on them, also wired boat lights, police flashers and more, only issues ive seen is you can knock the stock self reset breakers with the amp draw climbing hills and whatnot so i have had to remove them at times and put in 30 amp breaker, they dont trigger that and its been an outside cat and only abused for years, before i bought it for him it lived its life as a display model at toys R us and i bought it when they closed.
so anyway it has been living with the abuse really well
Huge smile on my face from start to finish. Love the Chanel, loved this video. Who doesn’t love a family man? Keep up the PHENOMENAL content my dude
DOHC (as it says on the sticker) seems to profit a lot from 18V, maybe I should replace the battery in my Volvo 850 too.
You should be a company man. Giving her a solution to a problem she didn't know she had.
Weize makes a direct replacement LiFePo4 battery that I use in my kids electric cars. The connector off the original lead acid battery will connect directly to it. The size is identical. Excellent performance as well.
That was awesome! Good to see you guys having fun with your family too and not always at the shop! Take care
Good job dad! It’s good to see real world results from y’all’s research. 😂😜
PowerStack for the ¼ mile 🤣
Cool video! You can screw bike tire tread to the wheels for extra grip.
When are the new Rigid impact motors being installed? Gonna need rubber tire mod for that as well most likely.
Harbor freight 12v solar battery works well. I have also been using the craftsman 20v batteries with great luck
Wait - you used a $300+ battery when a branded original is $72, and a generic 12Ah battery is under $40? Yeah I would too.
The little car has plenty of ugga duggas now... Good luck keeping up with her dad😂😂😂
I run a 5500 mah 3s lipo from my rc buggies. Doubled the power of the powerwheels ! And my daughter loves it. But youve gotta be the one to stop the fun because the battery will drain all the way down due to no cutoff
So happy to see your daughters laughter as the mod (Dewalt 15ah) def brought dem extra beans 👍🏼 tx for sharing
The dog barking in the background makes this hard to hear. Less professional. Your son helping you is a nice touch.
Now you have to sign off all your videos with "thanks for watching, and nice to meet you I'm byyyyeeeee"
Honestly I could see Dewalt making a kit for retrofitting Power Wheels just to sell more batteries and thus sooner or later more tools. That said I can see that adding any more power to these things just about requires a tire/wheel upgrade.
They probably wouldn't because some sue happy brain let would crash and sue
Adorable research assistant
Come on! Take the governor off it. Does your adapter switch the battery to 20V mode?
There's probably some kind of low voltage cutout you could put in line with the battery, right? Like, wouldn't just a heavy duty diode do it?
There are videos on TH-cam about using voltage controllers and voltage cutoffs getting ready to do this myself I got all the parts just got to find the time
That is the best way to use that type of battery.
You got a sub from me I used to put car batteries in those things for my kids and I'd swap out the 12 volt motors for 6 volt so I could get the wheels to turn twice as fast
I’ve been wanting to do this on my sons for a long time but because the LVC on the dewalt stuff is in the tool itself have shied away. A great follow up to this video would be a stand alone low voltage cut out circuit!!
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You’re now an official “Cool Dad”. Congratulations. 🍺😎
And I'm gone. Nice to meet you!
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Awesome! I used a m12 battery set up on my daughter’s vw bus power wheels. The thing would pull the front wheels off the ground. It was a 6v bus but didn’t mind the 12v?
Lol I threw my 18V 8Ah battery in my step-kid's 6V police tricycle because he had outgrown it and we were gonna take it to the dump anyways. Crazy fast, but that thing was smoking after an hour hahah. It also made the siren and police lights go haywire
Need a buck converter in line to bring the voltage down so you don't burn the motors up. I use the adapter plate with a 13.6v buck converter to power 12v stuff all over the farm. Test box for trailer lights, meter and solenoid for fertilizer pump, etc.
Stock powerwheels can run pretty reliably on 18V nominal, ie ~16 - 20 volts. Above 20V, the motors can fail, and the gearbox life drops a good amount as well due to the increased torque.
Hmm, flex volt... wonder how it would go on 60v?
Blow the motor up baby lmao
…how would it go on 60V???
About ten seconds 😎
@@ernestgalvan9037 haha, if its not the motor that goes up in smoke, it'll be the gear reduction shredding itself
I bought my daughter the exact same one and I was having problems with the tires slipping since they're hard plastic. I went to Walmart and bought the widest bike tires I could find and drilled them to the rear tires and now her Rzr grips like crazy !
Careful with that! Lost grip means long lift. More grip is asking a lot of those plastic gears
That was a cool video, a nice change that still relates to the channel.
lol @4:13 i could imagine
"You wanna go faster?"
"...mmno-"
"Well guys thanks for watching that's the end of this video remember to like and subscribe.."
Lol. Step 1 know ur kid. She ALWAYS wants to go faster. Its me who is the whimp about her doing so
Both of your reactions were so wholesome! Both super happy! Awesome!
LOL holy crap she spun the wheels!! Man u gonna have to keep an eye out!
Lol Okay Uh Oh dad looks likes she’s gonna need brakes now. 😂
You: Do you want to go faster?
Her: Yea
You raised her right 🥲
So how many cool dad points on the rank chart, LOL?
Gotta love her giggling when they tried out the next battery!
Might cook the electric motor with the extra voltage. I’d take a look and see what it’s rated for.
I don't have an actual answer to your question. But I will say that people largely don't have problems running at 18-20 volts. That should obviously be taken with a grain of salt. As he said in the video, LOTS of people do this.
For $400, you can get a LiFePo4 100aH 12v battery with a built in BMS and they still only weigh about 26lbs.
Last week I just bought everything I need for upgrading my 4 year old daughter's 12V Jeep with M18 batteries! Gonna try to get it done this weekend.
That battery looks hilarious on the tiny little impact. 😂
Heck, as long as she's got fun making burnouts, the world is fine 😂
lol the battery is worth more than the toy car 😭
Now that’s a good dad. Thumbs up 👍🏻
Now try it with all brands biggest battery lol
so cute when they are someone else's kid!
great vid... i moded my sons raptor with a dewalt batt. and rubber wheels 2 years ago and its still running great.. looking into a better motors now...and good ide to put low voltage cut-off in line on the batt. so you don't have to worry about killing it....
Ryobi packs are ideal for this sort of thing since they have the protection in the battery rather than the tool. If you have any of their cheap chargers that are just a dc adapter wired to a nubbin that goes over the battery stalk end, they are just asking to be turned into battery adapters, just make sure you use some decent gauge wire rather than the tiny stuff those chargers use. Have to usually solder directly to the output terminals on the little board since it usually has some diodes that will prevent pulling power out the input terminals (plus the output terminals are probably the only place that can actually tolerate the current you'd want to pull with it.) Made one for supplementing my power station (put the 18V out of the adapter into to the power stations 12-24V charging input, can double my runtime with a few 6 or 9ah packs.)
This was fun! I think if I was going to do something like this, I would get a 50Ah LiFePo4 battery and charger. Both can be had for under $300 and would last forever! Both in runtime and lifespan.
They're going to be about the same voltage as a peak SLA charge, but stay there longer until the BMS cuts off at about 11v.
I wouldn't have to risk over discharging my tool batteries without adding some kind of low voltage cutoff, or just wearing down expensive tool batteries.
If a 50Ah doesn't fit, you can get like 20-30Ah too, but far less selection there.
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I've seen people upgrade the tires by taking old bike tires, cutting off the sidewalls, and then screwing the tread to the existing power-wheels wheels/tires for more grip. You run the risk of burning up the motor since they may not be able to handle the additional torque though.
So great to hear her laugh! Yeah! Yeah! That's awesome upgrade as long as she doesn't end up at Walmart 3 miles away. :)
Great content as always- I love the family touch too, you did awesome man. Kudos 👍
Ryobi batteries have LVC built into them instead of the tool so you don't have to worry about taking them too low.
I need help. I put a 60 volt dewalt batteries on my kids' ATV. Now, it won't go fast any why its doing that?
Don't do it! It's a trap lol. I did the same and burned up the plastic gears. So i ended up spending more than the power wheel jeep cost upgrading to steel gears, aluminum motor mounts, and upgraded motors. Don't get me wrong it's fast and could do wheelies with even 18v and it drifts like crazy now so it's fun, but boy is it expensive once you start replacing things. All the neighbor kids love it though🤣
I purchased a 2 seater 120lb max large jeep and replaced the 24volt system with a 40volt 12ah and a step-down regulator so I could regulate the speed. Also put some small go cart wheels with a 5/8 hub adapter. Just had to drill holes in the rear go cart wheels for the gear to wheel adapter. It has a ton of torque for going through grass and dirt hills, also lasts all day. Next upgrade will be metal gear boxes.
Tried it on my son polaris outlaw peg perego whit a 60v max 12ah batery. Both motors blew up...
I used a 4cell lipo battery for my boys powerwheels, it made it way better.
Great job! Currently planning to take my kids car to the DeWALT battery level! Great video!
The power wheels batteries are expensive.... the LeadAcid cells are very much like the ones used in security cameras or UPS computer backups. You can get the generic batteries cheap enough.
We do ryobi batts with cheap HF rubber tires. We have to use 2 x18v or they will shut down too much load/volt drop.
I already can't control my toddler quick enough with his 12v car, no way I'm giving him more power. 😂
Thanks for the video, but I thought the circuit boards couldn't handle the upped amps.
I have another replacement battery lying around, I'll connect in parallel.
Now just need to replace the drive motor with a Milwaukee high torque
72.00 for a kids power wheel toy??? Geeesh being GOUGED again! Also got to include the cost of tax and shipping. probably got nearly a 100 bucks!
I love my 15ah! I use it for a blower, might get a second and I will be unstoppable! 🤣
Well, this was wholesome. Thanks for sharing!
Wholesome content
The satisfaction in your laugh at your daughters reaction is 👌👌
You should have see my daughters face when I hooked up my m18 battery to her truck! Her head whipped back and she was grinning from ear to ear!
8-9mph = decent jog or run... haha what an understatement... that is boston marathon qualifying speed!
Ya but you're not doing it for 26 miles continuously.
@@Hansengineering it’s 7.5 to 6.6 minute miles… that’s a fast run
@@tigo01 Again. That is a "fast" run IF you're running miles _at that speed_. Jogging at those speeds *for the distance a small child will drive a plastic car* should be *easy* for any adult human not in a wheelchair or otherwise crippled. Basic human locomotion is not a herculean feat!
We lost our taillights too. 😂 I wired up 2 x 12v batteries for 24v. Worked good, but the charger failed. Daughters outgrew, so now it's just parked. 😂 Registration expired.
I am curious, since this is a rather old video, how is the vehicle now, if it is still around... or how was the condition, when it was decommissioned & how long did it last? Were there any apparent negative effects on the motors &/or gearboxes? It looks like there was plenty of room under the hood. You could have probably added yet another battery, if you wanted even more run time. Of course, at $400, maybe that wouldn't be such a practical idea. Personally, I have been using Ryobi batteries. Not only, did I have a few tools, that used that type of battery, apparently it's also one of the brands, where the battery has built-in discharge protection. I like that feature, so I don't have to mess with building my own circuit, or closely monitor the use of the vehicle.
I like having multiple less expensive batteries, as opposed to a single huge and expensive battery. It allows me to have one or more in the charger & one or more in the vehicle. In fact, I usually put two in a vehicle, wired in parallel. The vehicle can then run on one or two batteries. One can be taken out to charge, while one can be left in. You can often get a good deal by purchasing more than one battery at once. You can often get double chargers, depending on the battery brand.
Making me wanna get my BIG OL ASS ON IT AND RIDE (43 NOW) damn I miss being a kid...