1.5 year Update: She's a bit older now and on setting 2 for ALL the fun, loves it. The car's been holding together just great, loosing traction is probably key. Obviously this isn't a cost savings mod unless you already have power tool batteries, they aint cheap. But if you do? Adapters for DeWalt: amzn.to/390Dm7Y M18: amzn.to/3uAiXBf Makita:amzn.to/3GlJXao Ryobi: amzn.to/3jNRIuD Ridgid amzn.to/36uSVE4 Plug end for Peg Perego: amzn.to/3jNRxz8 Power Wheels: amzn.to/480wtg9
Be careful, most dewalt batteries do not have internal low voltage protection. Meaning you can over discharge them like this and the charger will refuse to recharge them seeing the lower than expected voltage as damage. There are tricks to getting them to recharge however a cheap low voltage dropout circuit needs to be added to protect the battery.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r 6:14 agreed. The battery's display going down to one bar is enough to switch it over to the lead acid or another DeWalt for us. You usually have a decent 10-20 min window there too.
@@TorqueTestChannel I wonder if Ryobi wouldn't be an ideal option, as if I recall correctly the batteries all have low voltage protection built into it.
@@TorqueTestChannel That works as long as people know that and keep en eye on it. I do these types of projects with tool batteries often and generally use my Ridgids as they have protection. Also there are some great cheap batteries on the market to do these projects with, unfortunately that is why they are cheap, all of the load balancing is in the charger and protection is in the tool and not the battery. Im sure you know this, it is more of a tidbit of info for the people who may now try it since watching this.
@@elijahwatson8119 Just about any tool that is using a battery platform from the earliest lithium tools like Ryobi / Ridgid have the balancing and protection built in. You can usually search and see which ones do. But there are also a couple of ways to get a good idea by just looking at the battery and price at least when it is name brand vs namebrand. Cheap batteries like Kobalt for example are good batteries but significantly cheaper because the load balancing is in the charger and protection is in the tool. And secondly look at the number of pins the battery has. If it only has about 4 actual terminals the protection is probably in the battery. If it has multiple small connections then load balancing is definitely in the charger which is a good indication that the oc protection is likely in the tool. One exception all batteries should have over current protection in the form of a non replaceable fuse to prevent fire. Ones with built in protection have a fuse and an overcurrent cut off that protectes the battery and fuse. Consider a current limiting device if you are using a battery with it not built in as well.
"Awww, are you watching the daka-daka channel?" (Well, to elaborate, the little one lumps all the technical/tool/AvE channels I watch under "daka-daka", this channel would technically be "beans" or "Ugga-Duggas" in her system) Start them young, they won't need no stinkin' boyfriend to change their flats.
Have the 10 amp hour dewalt on my sons 12v mustang. Major improvement. Huge fan of the channel man. Being a father myself I can tell just by the way you interact with your daughter your an awesome Dad. I love the family interaction content from the tool channels. I think it’s something we need to incorporate more often on our channels. 👊👊👊 keep up the awesome work my man
She's having so much fun. I always wanted one of those when I was a kid, but we couldn't afford it. Now that I have kids, I got some for them, and it's so awesome seeing them drive around smiling.
@@ScottRipley nah it's boxed beef stroganoff like panburger partner, panburger is just the off brand version which in Canada when I was growing up we didn't get, only hamburger helper lol
Although we all know a smaller ah can be picked up cheaper, I wonder how many times the lead acid would need to be replaced vs the Dewalt. My experience with the small lead acid batteries is that while they start with good current and decent runtime this fades off rater quick as they are constantly being deep cycled.
Brings back memories of doing the same almost 20yrs ago, although with nicad batteries. The surprise on their faces and all the laughter was priceless.
My buddy did this for his son. He also installed a voltage regulator so it's not too fast. The downside is It's easy to discharge the batteries too much then they won't charge. A low voltage disconnect would be a good idea.
The best part about mods like this is run time and recharge time. Running 2 batteries in parallel, with just 6 batteries you can keep the vehicle running near continuously. The lead acids are just a waste of time, weight, and energy, plus when they aren’t using it you still have use of the batteries. You can add a managed battery controller which can manage the max and min voltages. I have a ton of chargers and actually used 2 of them in parallel and with a few solid state relays actually allow charging the packs in place, though even at 4/5 the kids are smart enough to swop the batteries. I like modding the chargers as battery sockets as they have enough room for the extra items needed to make mist things dual voltage and allows you to make things like LED work lights a hell of a lot cheaper, and more functional than DeWalts own products.
Been doing this since the 90s. Lately (last few years), Sloppy Mechanics had a good series of videos on Milwaukee powered kid's vehicles. Since, loads of parents out there have been posting good conversion videos here on TH-cam. Usually shreds out the plastic gearboxes, eventually. Keeping the voltage close to OEM is unsatisfyingly slow but safer for longevity. Voltage cutoff boards are really inexpensive and help keep any under charge/over discharge situations from bricking those pricey battery packs.
DeWalt batteries have an internal BMS which will protect the cells from over charge and over discharge. I have run my batteries until they cut off by themselves with no adverse effects. The DeWalt battery is 15-21 volt battery while lead acid is usually 10-14.2 volts, which is why the Power Wheels moves faster
@@winmancaboose For instance Milwaukee M18s packs won't protect themselves. When I run regular 5.0 to zero charge (i.e. to a point where any M18 tool wouldn't even start), and then when I put it on a noname 18V leaf blower that has 3D printed adaptor for M18s batteries, it would still run, which would leave me to believe the battery itself won't shut down past 15 V and it will provide power even past the critical point (
@@carsandtools Ryobi batteries won't protect themselves from running down past 14V. I've had a handful 1.5 and 2Ah batteries get "bricked" from non-use and won't take a charge. But I was able to jump start these by opening them up and using a fresh battery and wires to bring them up to the minimal voltage required to take a charge. I guess it would work the same on an M18 battery, though
I hot rodded my sons car and he kept driving until it wouldn’t move and bricked the batteries. I jumped them and got one to take a charge. The other one it happened to never worked again.
WHEELSPIN!!! IT burns out now! That's awesome. My older kids have one of the electric quads that Razor makes. It didn't take me long to replace the lead acid with a lithium ion creation of my own that weighs less, lasts longer, and goes faster. Oh ya... and it's smaller so I was able (later on) to build and install a smaller pack with its own leads as a reserve so it can always make it back under power if they run it too low.
I have the same Peg Porego for my daughter. I swapped in a 5ah Makita battery and this thing burns through motors. The driver side motor always goes first so I recommend upgrading the pair to one that is rated for 24v when you inevitably burn it out. Make sure to keep extra fuses in the car with the battery because you’ll pop those too when transitioning from pavement to grass. A 5 ah battery lasts about 30 minutes comfortably. I always bring two just in case and In 30 min of runtime, the battery doesn’t even get warm.
@@Inalienablerights15 Shut the device off/cuts power when it hits a certain low point He mentioned this at 6:20 ish. Running a battery completely dead like that is bad for it and ill kill it fast. Some controllers help to prevent damage to expensive batteries and/or components that need specific values.
Put a low voltage cutoff module set to 16,2v inline with the battery….. you’re gonna kill it if you discharge it too low. There is no protection inside the dewalt battery. If you used a ryobi battery you wouldn’t need to worry about that as they have cutoff circuitry internally
@@TheCharleseye Having the protection circuits in the battery does not make it inherently better though as long as you stick with the intended usecase, where that protection circuitry is build into the tool. In theory building the circuits into the tool can(!) reduce production overhead and therefore cost, at no downside for the customer really. For the average customer this definitely is not a matter of better or worse, as it makes no difference as long as you dont tinker with it.
@@TheCharleseye having the LVC in the Battery is am incredibly inefficient design and as long as you use the dewalt battery in dewalt tools the LVC in the tool takes care of it….. ryobi does that so they can brag about backwards compatibility to their NI-CD tools
@@TheCharleseye well of course it can happen especially if the battery gets cold or there are multiple days between it getting drained and getting charged back up ….. not arguing anything
@@TheCharleseye I had to do that a lot (jump starting the battery so that it would charge) with my Milwaukee 9.0 Ah HD. I was still using it almost daily (carpentry) for another almost year or two, when it finally got to the point it couldn't even be jump started anymore, so I took it apart and it finally dawned on me that all along one/some of the cells went bad. I manually balanced the five cells, and got another 6 months out of the battery; now it's finally dead and waiting for refurbishing. Still debating whether to tackle it myself (I would need to get a spot welder) or whether to send it off to someone who actually knows what are they doing.
@@TheCharleseye I've jump started a few Ryobi batteries, some of them were even brand new but DOA (mostly 1.5Ah and 2Ah batteries), but have never needed to do so on my DeWalt, Milwaukee nor Bosch batteries. And I've owned many from the cheapo 1.5Ah to 6Ah ones. Perhaps the 3Ah and bigger Ryobi batteries have such protection because I've never needed to jump start those ones, but the smaller ones definitely don't have such feature. Anyway it's a quick 15 minute fix I've mastered over the years.
At her age if I had one of these… I would’ve already unlocked 2nd gear by myself…and I would’ve stolen my dads battery out of the lawn mower and hooked it up
Now upgrade the motor to brushless! If you're worried about the battery voltage, Amazon (et.al.) sell low-voltage battery disconnect 'circuits', which are just a board with a relay and a setting for cutout voltage. When the input voltage drops below the setting, the battery is disconnected. Most of them have a 20A relay, which might be good enough for your ride-on toy, but you could use that relay to drive a larger external relay, delivering whatever current you need. Great channel, cheers!
This is a great idea. I'm not sure exactly how this 15 ah dw battery is made, but from my understanding, all previous dw batteries have no battery protection and instead rely on battery protection in the tool, where's other brands like Milwaukee have battery protection built in the battery. That's why I'm a bit hesitant about using my DW batteries with adapters in other brand tools. Would be a shame to kill a $400 battery by discharging it too much.
Its actually very difficult to do but not impossible. Brushless motors are shaped differently which makes them difficult to attach. Also the shaft and the number of teeth on the cog that come with the motor has to be the correct amount of teeth and correct size cog, if not it will destroy the cars grearing.
Weize makes a direct replacement LiFePo4 battery that I use in my kids electric cars. The connector off the original lead acid battery will connect directly to it. The size is identical. Excellent performance as well.
Bringing joy to our children is not only priceless but an incredible blessing. Great work brother. This is an experience both of you will never forget. Salute.
I bought my daughter the exact same one and I was having problems with the tires slipping since they're hard plastic. I went to Walmart and bought the widest bike tires I could find and drilled them to the rear tires and now her Rzr grips like crazy !
You'll have to keep us updated how well the motor handles it. Been looking to convert my son's over but most said you should use a buck converter to bring the voltage down. Either way, great job dad!!
@b gg Not sure if TTC deleted my comment or YT did. There's kits on amazon around $20-30 that include a buck converter and a DeWalt battery adapter. Sure, you might not gain any beans but my intent is just to have easily swappable batteries compared to the lead acid.
I did the same thing 20 yrs ago to my sons electric Silverado. I could believe how fast it went. He could do burn outs . Bought many sets of back tires that summer. Awesome video
My little ones car needs this done as well, that battery is starting to show its age. Might try one of my older dewalt batteries I have around for kicks.
You could get a better vehicle for him you know? The 5 year old neighbor kid had a 2-stroke ATV since he was 4 and now also a 50cc dirtbike. These electric toys seem a bit overprotective, time to step up.
I’ve been wanting to do this on my sons for a long time but because the LVC on the dewalt stuff is in the tool itself have shied away. A great follow up to this video would be a stand alone low voltage cut out circuit!!
You made her day super excited I love kids for that reason and im envious over how kids and animals can get so much excitement and satisfaction from the littlest things I wish I had those kinds of emotions still. Hopefully she enjoys her new hot rod for years to come.
lol @4:13 i could imagine "You wanna go faster?" "...mmno-" "Well guys thanks for watching that's the end of this video remember to like and subscribe.."
Need a buck converter in line to bring the voltage down so you don't burn the motors up. I use the adapter plate with a 13.6v buck converter to power 12v stuff all over the farm. Test box for trailer lights, meter and solenoid for fertilizer pump, etc.
Stock powerwheels can run pretty reliably on 18V nominal, ie ~16 - 20 volts. Above 20V, the motors can fail, and the gearbox life drops a good amount as well due to the increased torque.
i did m12's for my sons 6volt power wheels when he was small and then when we got the 12v power wheels bois i put m18 sockets on them, also wired boat lights, police flashers and more, only issues ive seen is you can knock the stock self reset breakers with the amp draw climbing hills and whatnot so i have had to remove them at times and put in 30 amp breaker, they dont trigger that and its been an outside cat and only abused for years, before i bought it for him it lived its life as a display model at toys R us and i bought it when they closed. so anyway it has been living with the abuse really well
great vid... i moded my sons raptor with a dewalt batt. and rubber wheels 2 years ago and its still running great.. looking into a better motors now...and good ide to put low voltage cut-off in line on the batt. so you don't have to worry about killing it....
something about this model car - speed 2 isn't just faster. it engages the other rear wheel's motor. really helps to get them going when stuck going up a hill on grass. I've been running the dewalt mod for a few years now with my kids. I've gone through a couple motors since they got heavier, and 2 of them are riding. If you have a little one that wants to ride along, look at buying a replacement carseat 5 point harness strap. You can use a small drill bit to carve groves into the passenger seat to push the back of the straps through.
I run a 5500 mah 3s lipo from my rc buggies. Doubled the power of the powerwheels ! And my daughter loves it. But youve gotta be the one to stop the fun because the battery will drain all the way down due to no cutoff
Modding electric ride-on toys is a very slippery slope... We have a Peg Perego running 20v, bicycle tires screwed to the hard plastic wheels, and a motor controller with soft start. The pedal on these things are an on/off switch as you well know. Starting from a stop in speed two on 20v with rubber tires will kill the gear boxes. A $20 DC motor controller with soft start from amazon fixed this problem completely. Enjoy the journey and thank you for the great content!
Ryobi packs are ideal for this sort of thing since they have the protection in the battery rather than the tool. If you have any of their cheap chargers that are just a dc adapter wired to a nubbin that goes over the battery stalk end, they are just asking to be turned into battery adapters, just make sure you use some decent gauge wire rather than the tiny stuff those chargers use. Have to usually solder directly to the output terminals on the little board since it usually has some diodes that will prevent pulling power out the input terminals (plus the output terminals are probably the only place that can actually tolerate the current you'd want to pull with it.) Made one for supplementing my power station (put the 18V out of the adapter into to the power stations 12-24V charging input, can double my runtime with a few 6 or 9ah packs.)
3:57 Dad asks "Do you wanna go faster" and before daughter answers the upgrade is installed. Not sure how long this toy will last with the voltage spike but definitely twice the fun..
My daughter LOVES her matching RZR! They are the best I ram mine on some M12’s and it destroyed the batteries, all 6.0’s too. Problem is there’s no low voltage cutoff and you can over discharge them easy… Best improvement I have done is a box of self tappers screwed around the back tires for aided traction lmao
Honestly I could see Dewalt making a kit for retrofitting Power Wheels just to sell more batteries and thus sooner or later more tools. That said I can see that adding any more power to these things just about requires a tire/wheel upgrade.
I did the same to my sons john deere tractor. But I also added another motor to the rear and put dually tires on the back for better traction. And to get him used to the speed and power I installed a pwc regulator to control the output voltage.
I purchased a 2 seater 120lb max large jeep and replaced the 24volt system with a 40volt 12ah and a step-down regulator so I could regulate the speed. Also put some small go cart wheels with a 5/8 hub adapter. Just had to drill holes in the rear go cart wheels for the gear to wheel adapter. It has a ton of torque for going through grass and dirt hills, also lasts all day. Next upgrade will be metal gear boxes.
This is really funny to watch. Before the cart sounded like a dying pig with slow electric squealing noise lol, then you asked if she wanted to go faster few times until she said yeah 😂. Then after when she floors it with the new Dewalt the cart is screaming faster and louder than a pig on heat haha 😂. I was half expecting you to slice in a clip from fast and the furious of that guy say "man that guys fast" 😄
My friend did this with a Power Wheels 4 wheeler with a foot pedal safety for his daughter. She'd do circles around the boys in the culdesac and would do a 360 pulling back into the garage. He'd use old drill packs. This was back before Amazon selling the conversion kits
I picked up four or five of these power wheel vehicles off the side of the road for my niece and nephew when they were growing up. All with dead batterys. I just used 1 four or five ah 18v battery at a time. They actually enjoyed the "pit stop" to swap out batteries.
This was fun! I think if I was going to do something like this, I would get a 50Ah LiFePo4 battery and charger. Both can be had for under $300 and would last forever! Both in runtime and lifespan. They're going to be about the same voltage as a peak SLA charge, but stay there longer until the BMS cuts off at about 11v. I wouldn't have to risk over discharging my tool batteries without adding some kind of low voltage cutoff, or just wearing down expensive tool batteries. If a 50Ah doesn't fit, you can get like 20-30Ah too, but far less selection there.
I've been wondering if spraying bed liner on the wheels would help with traction, moreso on pavement... but ... layer it up a bunch and see how it goes?
It's time to repaint the jeep yellow. The adapter may be able to use m18 if it has the side tab slots. This adapter works good for everything else that uses 18v or 19.2
Before anyone go and do this mod, please understand your kids powerwheel's electronics first. This mod only works if the vehicle has no other electronics that runs off the original 12v battery such as remote control, lights or radio unless those electronics have their own dedicated battery. You can use a high amperage buck converter to drop the voltage down to 13v but that defeats the purpose of using an 18-20v battery. With that said, there are other additional mods/improvements to consider. 1, Use DM18v adapter instead of the DW18v. It works with DeWalt and Milwaukee batteries. With a small mod to the adapter, it can also accept Bauer batteries as well. Use 2 in parallel and you'll double the run time and half the drain to each of those batteries. This works well if you're using 3rd party knock off batteries. 2, Add XH-M609 low voltage cut off to protect the battery from over discharge. Set the low voltage cutoff to 15v. Optional, use automotive 12v relay instead of the built in relay. The 12v relay takes the stress out of the built in 10a relay will operate up to 24v without issue. 3, Add a 60A DC10V-60V motor speed controller and enable high speed on the OEM gear switch. The controller allows you to set the top speed at any speed you want instead of just 10v or 20v. Order of mods, battery adapter, low voltage cut off, optional 12v relay, motor controller, OEM battery input plug. If you set the speed to 13v-20v equivalent, drive on flat surface to prolong the motor. Any sudden stress to the motor such as road to driveway or road to grass or just riding on grass may damage the gears or the motor itself. My kids love the mods I did for them. They get to set how fast or slow they want to go.
1.5 year Update: She's a bit older now and on setting 2 for ALL the fun, loves it. The car's been holding together just great, loosing traction is probably key.
Obviously this isn't a cost savings mod unless you already have power tool batteries, they aint cheap. But if you do? Adapters for DeWalt: amzn.to/390Dm7Y M18: amzn.to/3uAiXBf Makita:amzn.to/3GlJXao Ryobi: amzn.to/3jNRIuD Ridgid amzn.to/36uSVE4
Plug end for Peg Perego: amzn.to/3jNRxz8 Power Wheels: amzn.to/480wtg9
Be careful, most dewalt batteries do not have internal low voltage protection. Meaning you can over discharge them like this and the charger will refuse to recharge them seeing the lower than expected voltage as damage. There are tricks to getting them to recharge however a cheap low voltage dropout circuit needs to be added to protect the battery.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r 6:14 agreed. The battery's display going down to one bar is enough to switch it over to the lead acid or another DeWalt for us. You usually have a decent 10-20 min window there too.
@@TorqueTestChannel I wonder if Ryobi wouldn't be an ideal option, as if I recall correctly the batteries all have low voltage protection built into it.
@@TorqueTestChannel That works as long as people know that and keep en eye on it. I do these types of projects with tool batteries often and generally use my Ridgids as they have protection. Also there are some great cheap batteries on the market to do these projects with, unfortunately that is why they are cheap, all of the load balancing is in the charger and protection is in the tool and not the battery. Im sure you know this, it is more of a tidbit of info for the people who may now try it since watching this.
@@elijahwatson8119 Just about any tool that is using a battery platform from the earliest lithium tools like Ryobi / Ridgid have the balancing and protection built in. You can usually search and see which ones do. But there are also a couple of ways to get a good idea by just looking at the battery and price at least when it is name brand vs namebrand. Cheap batteries like Kobalt for example are good batteries but significantly cheaper because the load balancing is in the charger and protection is in the tool. And secondly look at the number of pins the battery has. If it only has about 4 actual terminals the protection is probably in the battery. If it has multiple small connections then load balancing is definitely in the charger which is a good indication that the oc protection is likely in the tool. One exception all batteries should have over current protection in the form of a non replaceable fuse to prevent fire. Ones with built in protection have a fuse and an overcurrent cut off that protectes the battery and fuse. Consider a current limiting device if you are using a battery with it not built in as well.
Nothing is so wholesome as spending quality time with your kid(s)...and playing with their toys! Kids need their fathers in their lives, too!
They do need father's ! 💪🏼
If she ain't a daddy's girl now, I really hope this mod really helped.
"Awww, are you watching the daka-daka channel?"
(Well, to elaborate, the little one lumps all the technical/tool/AvE channels I watch under "daka-daka", this channel would technically be "beans" or "Ugga-Duggas" in her system)
Start them young, they won't need no stinkin' boyfriend to change their flats.
😂 my dads always busy but i could see this being very fun if i was just liker her age lol
As a father myself...hearing my own daughter's giggle makes every day a great one!
Have the 10 amp hour dewalt on my sons 12v mustang. Major improvement. Huge fan of the channel man. Being a father myself I can tell just by the way you interact with your daughter your an awesome Dad. I love the family interaction content from the tool channels. I think it’s something we need to incorporate more often on our channels. 👊👊👊 keep up the awesome work my man
That battery was a helluva bit on EBay from part outs. $110 plus tax and free shipping.
@@Daddy_Daiwa sure was
You and Torque are both awesome dads!
@@jonathansherwood5841 appreciate that Jonathan. How’s things goin man?
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She's having so much fun. I always wanted one of those when I was a kid, but we couldn't afford it. Now that I have kids, I got some for them, and it's so awesome seeing them drive around smiling.
Same here brother 👊
First few years of my life was like 60% hamburger helper so I feel ya😂😂
@@rileymannion5301 👊🤣
@@rileymannion5301 Is that like Panburger Partner for rich people? 😉
@@ScottRipley nah it's boxed beef stroganoff like panburger partner, panburger is just the off brand version which in Canada when I was growing up we didn't get, only hamburger helper lol
You replaced an $80 battery with a $400 battery. I love it.
My exact same thought, already had the battery I guess.
Mo powa babeh
Although we all know a smaller ah can be picked up cheaper, I wonder how many times the lead acid would need to be replaced vs the Dewalt. My experience with the small lead acid batteries is that while they start with good current and decent runtime this fades off rater quick as they are constantly being deep cycled.
@@TheCharleseye and most likely many many more recharge cycles as well.
Those doing this mod are using batteries they already have so it's $0.
Brings back memories of doing the same almost 20yrs ago, although with nicad batteries. The surprise on their faces and all the laughter was priceless.
My buddy did this for his son. He also installed a voltage regulator so it's not too fast. The downside is It's easy to discharge the batteries too much then they won't charge. A low voltage disconnect would be a good idea.
The best part about mods like this is run time and recharge time. Running 2 batteries in parallel, with just 6 batteries you can keep the vehicle running near continuously. The lead acids are just a waste of time, weight, and energy, plus when they aren’t using it you still have use of the batteries. You can add a managed battery controller which can manage the max and min voltages. I have a ton of chargers and actually used 2 of them in parallel and with a few solid state relays actually allow charging the packs in place, though even at 4/5 the kids are smart enough to swop the batteries. I like modding the chargers as battery sockets as they have enough room for the extra items needed to make mist things dual voltage and allows you to make things like LED work lights a hell of a lot cheaper, and more functional than DeWalts own products.
Been doing this since the 90s.
Lately (last few years), Sloppy Mechanics had a good series of videos on Milwaukee powered kid's vehicles. Since, loads of parents out there have been posting good conversion videos here on TH-cam.
Usually shreds out the plastic gearboxes, eventually. Keeping the voltage close to OEM is unsatisfyingly slow but safer for longevity.
Voltage cutoff boards are really inexpensive and help keep any under charge/over discharge situations from bricking those pricey battery packs.
Probably wouldn't be too hard to add a simple low voltage cut off circuit to protect the battery. Thanks guys, looks like a fun time.
DeWalt batteries have an internal BMS which will protect the cells from over charge and over discharge. I have run my batteries until they cut off by themselves with no adverse effects. The DeWalt battery is 15-21 volt battery while lead acid is usually 10-14.2 volts, which is why the Power Wheels moves faster
@@winmancaboose For instance Milwaukee M18s packs won't protect themselves. When I run regular 5.0 to zero charge (i.e. to a point where any M18 tool wouldn't even start), and then when I put it on a noname 18V leaf blower that has 3D printed adaptor for M18s batteries, it would still run, which would leave me to believe the battery itself won't shut down past 15 V and it will provide power even past the critical point (
@@carsandtools Ryobi batteries won't protect themselves from running down past 14V. I've had a handful 1.5 and 2Ah batteries get "bricked" from non-use and won't take a charge. But I was able to jump start these by opening them up and using a fresh battery and wires to bring them up to the minimal voltage required to take a charge.
I guess it would work the same on an M18 battery, though
I hot rodded my sons car and he kept driving until it wouldn’t move and bricked the batteries. I jumped them and got one to take a charge. The other one it happened to never worked again.
@@luisinhoens90 Ryobi batteries are known for self discharge due to the BMS not being constructed properly, newer ones seem to not have this problem.
WHEELSPIN!!! IT burns out now! That's awesome. My older kids have one of the electric quads that Razor makes. It didn't take me long to replace the lead acid with a lithium ion creation of my own that weighs less, lasts longer, and goes faster. Oh ya... and it's smaller so I was able (later on) to build and install a smaller pack with its own leads as a reserve so it can always make it back under power if they run it too low.
I have the same Peg Porego for my daughter. I swapped in a 5ah Makita battery and this thing burns through motors. The driver side motor always goes first so I recommend upgrading the pair to one that is rated for 24v when you inevitably burn it out. Make sure to keep extra fuses in the car with the battery because you’ll pop those too when transitioning from pavement to grass. A 5 ah battery lasts about 30 minutes comfortably. I always bring two just in case and In 30 min of runtime, the battery doesn’t even get warm.
used a discharge controller with a programmable low voltage cut off when I did something similar. works great to avoid trashing the battery.
What is a discharge controller?
@@Inalienablerights15 Shut the device off/cuts power when it hits a certain low point He mentioned this at 6:20 ish. Running a battery completely dead like that is bad for it and ill kill it fast. Some controllers help to prevent damage to expensive batteries and/or components that need specific values.
Put a low voltage cutoff module set to 16,2v inline with the battery….. you’re gonna kill it if you discharge it too low. There is no protection inside the dewalt battery. If you used a ryobi battery you wouldn’t need to worry about that as they have cutoff circuitry internally
@@TheCharleseye Having the protection circuits in the battery does not make it inherently better though as long as you stick with the intended usecase, where that protection circuitry is build into the tool. In theory building the circuits into the tool can(!) reduce production overhead and therefore cost, at no downside for the customer really. For the average customer this definitely is not a matter of better or worse, as it makes no difference as long as you dont tinker with it.
@@TheCharleseye having the LVC in the Battery is am incredibly inefficient design and as long as you use the dewalt battery in dewalt tools the LVC in the tool takes care of it….. ryobi does that so they can brag about backwards compatibility to their NI-CD tools
@@TheCharleseye well of course it can happen especially if the battery gets cold or there are multiple days between it getting drained and getting charged back up ….. not arguing anything
@@TheCharleseye I had to do that a lot (jump starting the battery so that it would charge) with my Milwaukee 9.0 Ah HD. I was still using it almost daily (carpentry) for another almost year or two, when it finally got to the point it couldn't even be jump started anymore, so I took it apart and it finally dawned on me that all along one/some of the cells went bad. I manually balanced the five cells, and got another 6 months out of the battery; now it's finally dead and waiting for refurbishing. Still debating whether to tackle it myself (I would need to get a spot welder) or whether to send it off to someone who actually knows what are they doing.
@@TheCharleseye I've jump started a few Ryobi batteries, some of them were even brand new but DOA (mostly 1.5Ah and 2Ah batteries), but have never needed to do so on my DeWalt, Milwaukee nor Bosch batteries. And I've owned many from the cheapo 1.5Ah to 6Ah ones.
Perhaps the 3Ah and bigger Ryobi batteries have such protection because I've never needed to jump start those ones, but the smaller ones definitely don't have such feature.
Anyway it's a quick 15 minute fix I've mastered over the years.
Gotta unlock that 2nd speed let her really feel the beans!
Dont tell her about speed 2 hahaha
At her age if I had one of these… I would’ve already unlocked 2nd gear by myself…and I would’ve stolen my dads battery out of the lawn mower and hooked it up
@@tjlovesrachel sorry bad ass
Been doing this for years. Ebay sells kits to connect batteries like to to many things.
And let her go to 2nd gear. She'll learn how to drift.
Agreed. She’s a TTC representative lol.
They will need new tires soon.
What can I search the kits under ?
Now upgrade the motor to brushless! If you're worried about the battery voltage, Amazon (et.al.) sell low-voltage battery disconnect 'circuits', which are just a board with a relay and a setting for cutout voltage. When the input voltage drops below the setting, the battery is disconnected. Most of them have a 20A relay, which might be good enough for your ride-on toy, but you could use that relay to drive a larger external relay, delivering whatever current you need. Great channel, cheers!
This is a great idea. I'm not sure exactly how this 15 ah dw battery is made, but from my understanding, all previous dw batteries have no battery protection and instead rely on battery protection in the tool, where's other brands like Milwaukee have battery protection built in the battery. That's why I'm a bit hesitant about using my DW batteries with adapters in other brand tools. Would be a shame to kill a $400 battery by discharging it too much.
@@Fpsnut Same thing for over temperature, it’s up to the tool to read the battery probe.
Its actually very difficult to do but not impossible. Brushless motors are shaped differently which makes them difficult to attach. Also the shaft and the number of teeth on the cog that come with the motor has to be the correct amount of teeth and correct size cog, if not it will destroy the cars grearing.
So happy to see your daughters laughter as the mod (Dewalt 15ah) def brought dem extra beans 👍🏼 tx for sharing
Weize makes a direct replacement LiFePo4 battery that I use in my kids electric cars. The connector off the original lead acid battery will connect directly to it. The size is identical. Excellent performance as well.
Bringing joy to our children is not only priceless but an incredible blessing. Great work brother. This is an experience both of you will never forget. Salute.
I bought my daughter the exact same one and I was having problems with the tires slipping since they're hard plastic. I went to Walmart and bought the widest bike tires I could find and drilled them to the rear tires and now her Rzr grips like crazy !
Careful with that! Lost grip means long lift. More grip is asking a lot of those plastic gears
Huge smile on my face from start to finish. Love the Chanel, loved this video. Who doesn’t love a family man? Keep up the PHENOMENAL content my dude
You'll have to keep us updated how well the motor handles it. Been looking to convert my son's over but most said you should use a buck converter to bring the voltage down. Either way, great job dad!!
Will do. Around 5hrs worth so far no issues
@b gg Not sure if TTC deleted my comment or YT did. There's kits on amazon around $20-30 that include a buck converter and a DeWalt battery adapter. Sure, you might not gain any beans but my intent is just to have easily swappable batteries compared to the lead acid.
That was awesome! Good to see you guys having fun with your family too and not always at the shop! Take care
I would use it for driving screws with an impact... It's perfectly sized
Yep 15Ah is also perfect for the new dewalt 20V ratchet
@@genius3258 not even bulky or anything 😅
I did the same thing 20 yrs ago to my sons electric Silverado. I could believe how fast it went. He could do burn outs . Bought many sets of back tires that summer. Awesome video
My little ones car needs this done as well, that battery is starting to show its age. Might try one of my older dewalt batteries I have around for kicks.
You could get a better vehicle for him you know? The 5 year old neighbor kid had a 2-stroke ATV since he was 4 and now also a 50cc dirtbike. These electric toys seem a bit overprotective, time to step up.
Both of your reactions were so wholesome! Both super happy! Awesome!
Cool video! You can screw bike tire tread to the wheels for extra grip.
Easily one of the best videos I've seen on TH-cam, love when TH-camrs have there kids help out in videos
When it was first turned on her laughing was adorable, she loved it, very wholesome, gosh she was so so excited, so cute
Harbor freight 12v solar battery works well. I have also been using the craftsman 20v batteries with great luck
The satisfaction in your laugh at your daughters reaction is 👌👌
“do you want to go faster on the grass?”
All he’s waiting for is his daughters consent for his own invention 🤣🤣
I love it!
I’ve been wanting to do this on my sons for a long time but because the LVC on the dewalt stuff is in the tool itself have shied away. A great follow up to this video would be a stand alone low voltage cut out circuit!!
You made her day super excited I love kids for that reason and im envious over how kids and animals can get so much excitement and satisfaction from the littlest things I wish I had those kinds of emotions still. Hopefully she enjoys her new hot rod for years to come.
lol @4:13 i could imagine
"You wanna go faster?"
"...mmno-"
"Well guys thanks for watching that's the end of this video remember to like and subscribe.."
Lol. Step 1 know ur kid. She ALWAYS wants to go faster. Its me who is the whimp about her doing so
That was a cool video, a nice change that still relates to the channel.
2:33 I know it's not to look like that but the main heating part of the gun looks like a smiley face!
Need a buck converter in line to bring the voltage down so you don't burn the motors up. I use the adapter plate with a 13.6v buck converter to power 12v stuff all over the farm. Test box for trailer lights, meter and solenoid for fertilizer pump, etc.
Stock powerwheels can run pretty reliably on 18V nominal, ie ~16 - 20 volts. Above 20V, the motors can fail, and the gearbox life drops a good amount as well due to the increased torque.
i did m12's for my sons 6volt power wheels when he was small and then when we got the 12v power wheels bois i put m18 sockets on them, also wired boat lights, police flashers and more, only issues ive seen is you can knock the stock self reset breakers with the amp draw climbing hills and whatnot so i have had to remove them at times and put in 30 amp breaker, they dont trigger that and its been an outside cat and only abused for years, before i bought it for him it lived its life as a display model at toys R us and i bought it when they closed.
so anyway it has been living with the abuse really well
great vid... i moded my sons raptor with a dewalt batt. and rubber wheels 2 years ago and its still running great.. looking into a better motors now...and good ide to put low voltage cut-off in line on the batt. so you don't have to worry about killing it....
Great content as always- I love the family touch too, you did awesome man. Kudos 👍
The joy in her voice is priceless!!
C’mon man let her in Speed 2
something about this model car - speed 2 isn't just faster. it engages the other rear wheel's motor. really helps to get them going when stuck going up a hill on grass. I've been running the dewalt mod for a few years now with my kids. I've gone through a couple motors since they got heavier, and 2 of them are riding. If you have a little one that wants to ride along, look at buying a replacement carseat 5 point harness strap. You can use a small drill bit to carve groves into the passenger seat to push the back of the straps through.
Dad + DeWalt + idea = hero in daughter’s eyes!
Gotta love her giggling when they tried out the next battery!
DOHC (as it says on the sticker) seems to profit a lot from 18V, maybe I should replace the battery in my Volvo 850 too.
Good job dad! It’s good to see real world results from y’all’s research. 😂😜
Now that’s a good dad. Thumbs up 👍🏻
Easily the best video on the channel. This brings back memories from when my dad did this for me when i was little. 🥺
I cracked up when she cruised past you and said bye!
Cute kid, and nice work as always
Great dad moment. 👍🏼
I run a 5500 mah 3s lipo from my rc buggies. Doubled the power of the powerwheels ! And my daughter loves it. But youve gotta be the one to stop the fun because the battery will drain all the way down due to no cutoff
Last week I just bought everything I need for upgrading my 4 year old daughter's 12V Jeep with M18 batteries! Gonna try to get it done this weekend.
Modding electric ride-on toys is a very slippery slope... We have a Peg Perego running 20v, bicycle tires screwed to the hard plastic wheels, and a motor controller with soft start. The pedal on these things are an on/off switch as you well know. Starting from a stop in speed two on 20v with rubber tires will kill the gear boxes. A $20 DC motor controller with soft start from amazon fixed this problem completely. Enjoy the journey and thank you for the great content!
That battery looks hilarious on the tiny little impact. 😂
Ryobi packs are ideal for this sort of thing since they have the protection in the battery rather than the tool. If you have any of their cheap chargers that are just a dc adapter wired to a nubbin that goes over the battery stalk end, they are just asking to be turned into battery adapters, just make sure you use some decent gauge wire rather than the tiny stuff those chargers use. Have to usually solder directly to the output terminals on the little board since it usually has some diodes that will prevent pulling power out the input terminals (plus the output terminals are probably the only place that can actually tolerate the current you'd want to pull with it.) Made one for supplementing my power station (put the 18V out of the adapter into to the power stations 12-24V charging input, can double my runtime with a few 6 or 9ah packs.)
The joy you must have felt seeing her "zoom"😅 Im gonna try this with my son's Coco melon tractor 😂
When are the new Rigid impact motors being installed? Gonna need rubber tire mod for that as well most likely.
3:57 Dad asks "Do you wanna go faster" and before daughter answers the upgrade is installed. Not sure how long this toy will last with the voltage spike but definitely twice the fun..
The little car has plenty of ugga duggas now... Good luck keeping up with her dad😂😂😂
My daughter LOVES her matching RZR! They are the best
I ram mine on some M12’s and it destroyed the batteries, all 6.0’s too.
Problem is there’s no low voltage cutoff and you can over discharge them easy…
Best improvement I have done is a box of self tappers screwed around the back tires for aided traction lmao
Honestly I could see Dewalt making a kit for retrofitting Power Wheels just to sell more batteries and thus sooner or later more tools. That said I can see that adding any more power to these things just about requires a tire/wheel upgrade.
They probably wouldn't because some sue happy brain let would crash and sue
Great job dude! It is not about the cost. It is about hearing your child's excitement over something you have done for them.
You should have see my daughters face when I hooked up my m18 battery to her truck! Her head whipped back and she was grinning from ear to ear!
just noticed the TTC in the handle of drill in your channel logo. very clever.
You don't need to catch up with her wheels.... just her heart😉 Well done.
Above anything else in this video you made her day, good job DAD🎉
I did the same to my sons john deere tractor. But I also added another motor to the rear and put dually tires on the back for better traction. And to get him used to the speed and power I installed a pwc regulator to control the output voltage.
You: Do you want to go faster?
Her: Yea
You raised her right 🥲
I purchased a 2 seater 120lb max large jeep and replaced the 24volt system with a 40volt 12ah and a step-down regulator so I could regulate the speed. Also put some small go cart wheels with a 5/8 hub adapter. Just had to drill holes in the rear go cart wheels for the gear to wheel adapter. It has a ton of torque for going through grass and dirt hills, also lasts all day. Next upgrade will be metal gear boxes.
The same satisfying giggles my son gave after supercharging his Merc with 4S lipo
This is really funny to watch. Before the cart sounded like a dying pig with slow electric squealing noise lol, then you asked if she wanted to go faster few times until she said yeah 😂. Then after when she floors it with the new Dewalt the cart is screaming faster and louder than a pig on heat haha 😂. I was half expecting you to slice in a clip from fast and the furious of that guy say "man that guys fast" 😄
the excited scream says it all. Priceless!
My friend did this with a Power Wheels 4 wheeler with a foot pedal safety for his daughter. She'd do circles around the boys in the culdesac and would do a 360 pulling back into the garage. He'd use old drill packs. This was back before Amazon selling the conversion kits
Adorable research assistant
Using your skills to improve you kiddo"s toy, satisfying and awesome. I'll keep watching.
What a precious child. Good dad !!!
Great job! Currently planning to take my kids car to the DeWALT battery level! Great video!
I picked up four or five of these power wheel vehicles off the side of the road for my niece and nephew when they were growing up. All with dead batterys. I just used 1 four or five ah 18v battery at a time. They actually enjoyed the "pit stop" to swap out batteries.
I'm definitely doing this for my daughter! Thanks for the upload.
What a sweet kid. My daughter is about the same age with a power wheels like this. Definitely going to give it a shot with a Ridgid battery.
Quality family entertainment!
This was fun! I think if I was going to do something like this, I would get a 50Ah LiFePo4 battery and charger. Both can be had for under $300 and would last forever! Both in runtime and lifespan.
They're going to be about the same voltage as a peak SLA charge, but stay there longer until the BMS cuts off at about 11v.
I wouldn't have to risk over discharging my tool batteries without adding some kind of low voltage cutoff, or just wearing down expensive tool batteries.
If a 50Ah doesn't fit, you can get like 20-30Ah too, but far less selection there.
TTC - Hey Sierra, do you want more UGGA-DUGGAs?
Sierra - UH-HUH
And she's off...
I love the "5 second reverse torque test" at 5:50 or so.
She'll be doing doughnuts around you by next week!
Wholesome video, my guy. Much appreciated.
LOL holy crap she spun the wheels!! Man u gonna have to keep an eye out!
You’re now an official “Cool Dad”. Congratulations. 🍺😎
I've been wondering if spraying bed liner on the wheels would help with traction, moreso on pavement... but ... layer it up a bunch and see how it goes?
We do ryobi batts with cheap HF rubber tires. We have to use 2 x18v or they will shut down too much load/volt drop.
Like father, like daughter: It looks like she enjoys an extra serving of beans just as much as you do. 😄
so cute when they are someone else's kid!
It's time to repaint the jeep yellow. The adapter may be able to use m18 if it has the side tab slots. This adapter works good for everything else that uses 18v or 19.2
So great to hear her laugh! Yeah! Yeah! That's awesome upgrade as long as she doesn't end up at Walmart 3 miles away. :)
Before anyone go and do this mod, please understand your kids powerwheel's electronics first. This mod only works if the vehicle has no other electronics that runs off the original 12v battery such as remote control, lights or radio unless those electronics have their own dedicated battery. You can use a high amperage buck converter to drop the voltage down to 13v but that defeats the purpose of using an 18-20v battery. With that said, there are other additional mods/improvements to consider.
1, Use DM18v adapter instead of the DW18v. It works with DeWalt and Milwaukee batteries. With a small mod to the adapter, it can also accept Bauer batteries as well. Use 2 in parallel and you'll double the run time and half the drain to each of those batteries. This works well if you're using 3rd party knock off batteries.
2, Add XH-M609 low voltage cut off to protect the battery from over discharge. Set the low voltage cutoff to 15v. Optional, use automotive 12v relay instead of the built in relay. The 12v relay takes the stress out of the built in 10a relay will operate up to 24v without issue.
3, Add a 60A DC10V-60V motor speed controller and enable high speed on the OEM gear switch. The controller allows you to set the top speed at any speed you want instead of just 10v or 20v.
Order of mods, battery adapter, low voltage cut off, optional 12v relay, motor controller, OEM battery input plug.
If you set the speed to 13v-20v equivalent, drive on flat surface to prolong the motor. Any sudden stress to the motor such as road to driveway or road to grass or just riding on grass may damage the gears or the motor itself.
My kids love the mods I did for them. They get to set how fast or slow they want to go.
What s cool, awesome Dad, to hear her laugh made it all worth it, I know, I'm a Dad, & my son is my whole world! 💯👍