Star Lord: “So what did you see?” Strange: “14 million 6 hundred and 5 futures.” Stark: “How many did we win?” Strange: “14 million 6 hundred and 5!” Spider-Man: “how many did Disney win?” Strange: “One!!”
Everyone's mad at him, but at least he went for the head I'm watching the movie right now and I just noticed that Thanos was somehow fighting with Spider-boi's web still over his eyes, he's an absolute mad lad
Yes he went for the head. But apparently, in all of the 14 million + scenarios that Dr Strange viewed, Thor goes for the heart in every single one of them.
@@scott00049What if there was a senerio where peter didn't hit Mantis' hand and just got to keep hitting Thanos lol Also, using gun as a blunt weapon was a dumb decision
He lost his mom, killed his real dad, lost his 2nd dad, and finally, lost his girlfriend. So, give the guy a break. He has lost so much to the point that he's become broken. Peter Quill is one of the most tragic characters in the MCU.
Him, Wanda and Thor are tied in for losing everything. Star Lord - childhood, mother, father, Foster father, love of his life, his power Thor - parents, brother, his hammer, girlfriend, his ppl, his eye at one point, his best friend Wanda - *everything* with the bonus ppl are afraid of her power
It really contextualizes his interaction with Thor in IW. Peter admitting he had a messed up backstory to Thor is played for laughs then, but in reality he and Thor have very similar pasts. (Dead parents, exploding planets, Thanos killing loved ones.)
My Dad left as soon as he knew my mom was pregnant. I never knew who he was or anything really. Since my mom never wanted to talk about him But once I was 11, they told me he was suddenly waiting for me at home? He turned out to be some rich corporate guy. Not what I was expecting either. But guess what? Things got rough and once I was 15 he left me again to start a new life in China. Starlord has always been my favourite. He is like the only super hero that I actually felt connected with. Also his entire personality and way of approaching or dealing with things kinda remind me of myself.
Im sorry you had to go thru that, I never knew my real dad I had a step dad that hated me and treated me like crap so I can definitely relate to peter cuz now I'm an adult and ppl who know me would never tell what I been thru cuz I'm always joking even when things get serious I'm always cracking jokes but when I need to get stuff done I'm able to get serious and get it done so I peter quill is one of the rare characters in cinema where I actually see a bit of myself if in many ways down to his love of his music too
@@bimgusfriestad7132 How can u be watching the full fat starlord video and say something so mean to someone else? And isn't the attention seeking nature of your comment a bit of a "pot calling the kettle black," thing to say? And if you're not seeking attention by speaking your mind, then why r u throwing that shade on someone else for speaking theirs?
@@prince_nocturne Intelligence is how much you have on your harddrive, Wisdom is the knowledge to know which folder you need to open to get the best answer
@@Tijnob Intelligence is knowing the downsides of Dihydromonoxide. Wisdom is knowing how gullible everyone around you is. Charisma is convincing your entire school to ban water. And that was my senior prank almost 20 years ago.
Also, Ego’s sudden arrival kinda represents absent parents finally come to say hi when you do something successful. Ego only shows up because peter held the power stone. Kinda like how absent parents show up when you win the lottery, or get accepted into a college.
yeah this is the first thing I thought of when looking at this video. And it seems even worse with Ego, because while I thankfully don't have personal experience in this myself, but it seems like plenty of times that part of that absent parent's frame of mind is a real feeling of worthlessness and failure (which I don't at all mean to just be an "excuse" for the act), and their WHOLE thing about coming back at the child's peak, especially if there's money involved, is how can I also benefit from this. Whereas with the Ego character, that's absolutely a part of it, he wants to then use Peter to help further what he wants to do and be in the universe, but also... well, his name IS "Ego" lol He's ALWAYS regarded himself as something above any other living thing, he didn't leave because of feelings of personal inadequacy, but that if the given offspring doesn't immediately show to be biologically superior as well he has not a single care it even exists.
Gunn: You could not live with your own failure.... *Mickey reluctantly looks at Gunn as they rehire him for Guardians 3* Gunn: Where did that bring you? *Back to me*
Infinity War was all about the heroes failing because of their flaws, not just because of that scene Star Lord. 1.) Tony could've called Cap immediately after Bruce told him about Thanos but he didn't. 2. Thor could've just killed Thanos outright instead of inching slowly through his chest, but he didn't. 3. Cap and Wanda could've fulfilled Vision's request to destroy the mind stone way before Wakanda, but they decided that trading lives was too much. All these failures including Star Lord's affected the movies outcome heavily and they humanize these beloved characters even more. The decisions they made aren't out-of-character or just a reason to make another film. These decisions actually make sense for those specific characters to make.
Also sacrificial choices. Echoing "the hardest choices requires the greatest will" and the Soul Stone. Each stone came with a hard choice and sacrifice from the heroes. - Power, we don't know - Space, Loki saved Thor - Reality, Quill tried to kill Gamora - Soul, Gamora saved Nebula - Time, Strange saved Tony - Mind, Wanda killed Vision Every other choice was an easy one. They had options where they didn't need to sacrifice anything.
@@Eclipsed_Archon For this, the sacrifice would need to be on Xandar. Possibly performed by Nova Prime or Corpsman Dey. Groot's sacrifice put the stone in Nova Corp hands. Each of the sacrifices in Infinity War put the stone in Thanos' hand.
It's actually pretty annoying how people think that the heroes can't do mistakes or it's character assassination or something silly like that. Mistakes make things more interesting.
@@zingzaber6989 but people are only disagreeing with the "direction" because it wasn't the "optimal strategy" that's literally it. It was PERFECTLY in character.
I would say Ant-Man is the most ordinary hero in the MCU after taking into account how much they downplay his martial arts training, engineering degree, and being good at stealing stuff.
TheInternetIsConfusing you could say the same thing about characters like the Falcon or War Machine, almost everyone is ordinary without their suits or powers.
Or if thors girl friend was still alive? Would a man who lost everything EXCEPT her keep his cool? what if captain americas old girlfriend was killed by him? Could he keep his? ANY of these characters would’ve lost it and done something stupid.
@@game-enjoyer13 The thing is that MOST of these characters _DID_ do something stupid, and all failed because of it. Tony refused to return to Earth and fight alongside the rest of the squad (make up with Steve, etc.). He thought he, Strange, and Parker could take Thanos on (seriously?). Gamora gave up Vormir to save Nebula. Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos in order to spare Tony's life. Scarlet Witch refused to destroy the Mind Stone waaaaay before Thanos was ever on the playing field because she couldn't face killing Vision. The Nova Corps couldn't keep the Power Stone safe. The Collector was no match for Thanos in keeping the Reality Stone safe (given to him by Sif/Asgard in Thor 2). Hulk refused to come out and fight after getting his ass whooped once. Thor refused to go for the killing blow against Thanos because he regressed into hubris and arrogance in what would've been Thanos' final moments in order to get the last word in ("I told you you'd pay for that" - type speech). Yet, the ONLY character in Infinity War who *_WAS WILLING_* to sacrifice something supremely important to them was Quill, when he *PULLED THE TRIGGER TO KILL GAMORA*. That obviously failed, but it wasn't his fault. AND he had previously sacrificed a huge part of himself in Guardians 2 by killing Ego, and therefore his half-Demi God status, in order to save his FRIENDS. There's LITERALLY nothing of merit when I hear someone saying that "it was all Quill's fault", because, if they paid attention, it wasn't. OH! And yet, after all the individual failures, it *_HAD_* to be this way. Only 1 in 14,000,605 possible futures in which they defeat Thanos. #NotQuillsFault
I love the moment of him hitting Thanos because it calls back to when he shot Ego immediately after he said he killed his mom. Peter has shown to go into a rage when someone he loves is in danger/dead etc. It turns that around on its head. When it happens in Guardians 2 it's a cheer moment, and then it turns into a what the fuck man moment. btw I heard this somewhere it's not my idea but I love the explanation. It really makes sense to me.
The Russos completely contradict the advice Yondu gave Quill. In Guardians 2, Star-Lord learns how to use his heart. He beat Ego by acting without thinking. One of the main reasons Thanos wins is because Star-Lord acted without thinking.
@@dannypalin9583 he is flawed, its not impossible for you to repeat mistakes, plus he lost someone he loved and she is the last loved one he have left, his mother, father and dad died.
People who complained that Star-Lord didn't act rationally cleary forgot that Star-Lord wasn't always the most emotionally stable character in the MCU, it actually is more interesting this way, we have flawed characters who don't always act rationally.
Pretty much everybody in the MCU is flawed af. Look at Iron Man in Age of Ultron and Civil War with Cap, Thor dealing his grief in Infinity War, Hulk in Ragnarok, etc. etc.
Star Lord is legit my favorite mcu character, he's so relatable and sad and funny and is all in all, in my opinion, the consistently best written character in the entire thing. I relate to him on a few different levels and its both cathartic and heartbreaking to watch him
I'm really not one who comments on videos often unless I have something important to say. I did grow up with both parents, and I DID feel that Peter's reaction was genuine. I knew kids without a certain parent (mother or father) and while as children you could tell they wanted to meet them, as they grew older my friends stopped caring. It became a hard apathy. If anything, he was a little too open; however, Ego IS manipulative and provided Peter with exactly what he wanted to hear. This was a good movie with good writing. Thanks for reading, I know it was long.
I'm not gonna lie, if I was Peter I would have been seduced by Ego's promises. Usually that apathy is just there to cover the wound. There is plenty of emotion still under there, waiting to be ripped open. Especially when so much has been left unresolved. Here comes Ego offering answers, security, power, and fatherly pride and affection. If he had just stuck with "that darn cancer took your mom away" he would have won, which is why his ego forced him to reveal the truth and push the plot forward. So, agreed that it was brilliant writing.
Ego's planet and promises were PERFECTLY designed to appeal to a small boy - the small boy who was abducted by Yondu. A boy who had just lost his mother and had no friends and no other family with him would have been ripe for manipulation. Even decades later, Peter is almost fully taken in (until he finds out Ego is the reason his mother died).
Many of them (MCU characters) had their moment of weakness and failed to do what they were supposed to do in Infinity War. Thor, Scarlet Witch, The Hulk, etc.
24:27 I feel the need to point out something that everyone seems to have missed. Peter is a master Strategist and thief. While Tony is simply a good tactician. When it comes to planning a fight he prefers to use a fist to hammer in a nail. For example - In the Avengers Infinity war - Tony uses everyone else's plans to overcome his foes. Cull Obsidian has his hand chopped off and teleported away by Wong and Peter Parker shares his strategy of defeating Ebony Maw by sucking him out of his own ship. His plans usually boil down to "here's what we should aim for, this is what we need to avoid", rather than give orders to each teammate that Peter Quill or Captain America would. Meanwhile Quill is somewhat resourceful but strategic - A thief, able to delegate jobs and create distractions and plan ahead of his opponents moves. Tony's ability to wage war is perfectly encapsulated in this quote from the Original Avengers. "Tony we need a plan of attack" "I have a plan... ATTACK"
Which, when you think about it, might be a window into Stark as CEO. As the big boss, he knows what his objectives are, but he's always had somebody there to worry about the more minor details, whether it be Pepper at Stark Industries or Captain America in the Avengers. Even in the first two Avengers movies, he just sort of sets broad objectives (close that portal, get the scepter). It's Cap who handles the "how" portion.
I think that's a better way of putting it than "Stark couldn't do it." Stark is a reactive tactician. The fight happens, and Stark finds a way to complete the goal, probably using one of a million resources that are already there 'just in case', but not with a definite plan. It's more like a flowchart with a lot of arrows. The reason that MCU Stark has trouble leading a team is that it's difficult to give other people timely instructions based on the reactions he's seeing. By the time he can make them get it, the moment's passed, the flowchart has changed. He might have had a slightly better chance with other highly intelligent solo fighters (like Spidey and Strange), who can think and react to things on a similar level, but that wouldn't have worked for everyone there. The Guardians are a team (one which he was fighting just a little while beforehand), and Quill is their quarterback. Plus, if you watch the whole scene, as soon as he says he has the beginnings of a plan, Drax is yawning, Quill is immediately bucking any semblance of authority (easy, because Stark is one of those folks that walks into a room and assumes he's in charge), Mantis is... being Mantis, and Stark seems to see it all as either disrespectful or unprofessional or both. He never actually got to a plan. At that point, it'd be entirely plausibe that he wouldn't even try to call a real play there because the trust and knowledge of ability wasn't present, and just chilling out long enough to try to gain any part of that, or just not a sense resentment and distrust, didn't look to be in the cards. Better to just give them a general goal and let them do what comes naturally. Or fall into their plan and try to make the flowchart work.
Other way around: Stark has an endgame (strategy) versus a tactic (accomplishment of that strategy). Strategy defines objectives, tactics accomplishes them. So Stark's "plan" - "draw [Thanos] in, pin him down, get the gauntlet, we do not want to dance with this guy" - is 100% true. It's even what they ATTEMPTED to do. The details, i.e. the tactics, were fleshed out by Quill, but Stark had the understanding of the situation and ultimate goal that informed how to implement step-by-step, concrete actions.
@@CybrosisEvolved The same Quill who earlier told his whole crew that he wasn't changing his voice (which was obviously not the same as it was two minutes before) in response to their reaction to Thor. Based on that line, the plan could have been Drax's for all we would know.
Tony refused to return to Earth and fight alongside the rest of the squad (make up with Steve, etc.). He thought he, Strange, and Parker could take Thanos on (seriously?). Gamora gave up Vormir to save Nebula. Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos in order to spare Tony's life. Scarlet Witch refused to destroy the Mind Stone waaaaay before Thanos was ever on the playing field because she couldn't face killing Vision. The Nova Corps couldn't keep the Power Stone safe. The Collector was no match for Thanos in keeping the Reality Stone safe (given to him by Sif/Asgard in Thor 2). Hulk refused to come out and fight after getting his ass whooped once. Thor refused to go for the killing blow against Thanos because he regressed into hubris and arrogance in what would've been Thanos' final moments in order to get the last word in ("I told you you'd pay for that" - type speech). Yet, the ONLY character in Infinity War who *_WAS WILLING_* to sacrifice something supremely important to them was Quill, when he *PULLED THE TRIGGER TO KILL GAMORA*. That obviously failed, but it wasn't his fault. AND he had previously sacrificed a huge part of himself in Guardians 2 by killing Ego, and therefore his half-Demi God status, in order to save his FRIENDS. There's LITERALLY nothing of merit when I hear someone saying that "it was all Quill's fault", because, if they paid attention, it wasn't. And yet, after all the individual failures, it *_HAD_* to be this way. Only 1 in 14,000,605 possible futures in which they defeat Thanos. #NotQuillsFault
despite all peter quills flaws, I still love him more than any other character in the MCU. if anything, some of those flaws make him more relatable, and I really look forward to his future adventures
The line when Thanos says " I had too" while being mind-melded by mantiz Then Star Lord responding "no you didn't" he isn't talking to Thanos. Before, when Star lord pulled the trigger even though bubbles came out of his blaster, in his mind he was willing to kill the love of his life for the sake of the galaxy this was probably a shock and surprise even to him. He may have made a promise but seriously who expects themselves to be in that position. After learning that Gamora is really dead, he doesn't blame himself for failing to stop Thanos. He blames himself for being no better than Thanos. Thanos had to sacrifice the one thing he loved the most for the soul stone which was Gamora. Try to imagine in that moment being face to face with the man that killed the most important person in you life and realizing you tried and were willing to do the same. You are no better than the thing you hate. He may be swinging at Thanos but Peter is trying wildly to destroy himself in that moment and he succeeds.
The thing that what you said that makes it great is that when Peter tried to kill Gamora and the gun became bubbles. Thanos said I like him. Maybe because theyre the same in a way haha
I'm a guy with a stepdad whose real father left when I was born Years later during middle school I end up meeting the guy for about a week when i learn that he feels he wants nothing to do with me. This is the first time I'm even made aware that my dad isn't biologically related to me. Everyone I knew, from friends and siblings to parents or school counselors kept greeting me like I was some fragile kid about to break from his disinterest. In reality, I didn't know the guy And I had my dad, my stepfather A guy who married my mom after he knew I was there and chose to assume a responsibility for me that he has no need to take on. It baffles me how anyone could assume I'd be emotionally devastated over this person i dont know. It would be like falling to my knees in anguish if some random person cut in front of me in a line or something. It was that kind of level. Annoying at best. If anything, the only strong emotion I really felt was a confusion as to how I fit into my family I only truly had a blood connection to my mother. My Dad was now just a guy i knew and my full-blood siblings were now revealed to be only half related. I think if there was a shock, it came from a loss of the connection I felt couldn't be taken from me. Not from some sudden understanding of "You dont have this thing that you never needed". So I feel I relate to Starlords lack of a stronger response to Ego
Can somewhat relate. Mostly absent harsh father suddenly tried to be good guy dad when I was in my lat 20's Way too late, like it didn't matter anymore.
@@alanparsonsfan If the guy had really tried I'd have allowed him to. I even went camping with him. But turned out he was in court with my mom for child pay and if I lived with him he'd be able to escape his fines. To this day I find it hilarious that he though roughly a week of interaction would convince me to betray the woman who sacrificed so much to raise me. Now, if you dad's being real about it, I'd say give him the chance. But watch to make sure there isnt some other reason.
Great video. All the main characters lost due to not their flaws per se, but their virtues. Everything they hold dear. Cap's refusal to kill Vision - though definitely heroic - was a flaw that led to defeat. Strange swore to protect the time stone when he could have destroyed it, and did not. Thor - here a vice - could have killed Thanos but decided to gloat. Only Iron Man didn't lose by any flaws. Though the effect of defear was still devastating after spending all those years and mistakes (Ultron) to prepare for it. His intelligence wasn't enough. And Starlord, as the video said: his grounded emotional human quality. He let his emotions get in the way when it usually helps, and he failed as a leader twice, the one thing he was good at. All the heroes were defeated not just physically, but ideologically too.
Strange couldn't really destroy the Time Stone anyway. I always thought that dialogue was weird. He's all like "We took an oath." And I'm just thinking: why not point out it can't just simply be disposed of?
@Whizzie he made jokes 10 years ago ON TWITTER, and at the time he was known for making really sleezy and inappropriate movies so it makes sense, AND he already apologized TWICE before this whole ordeal, really glad to see he's back
The line "and what's so wrong with that" is by far my favourite of the MCU. Peter's humanity is what makes him a hero, and his realisation of this , and him being absolutely fine with losing his powers because of it is great
Maybe they can after the backlash has now died down. They fired him because they where given two choices, angry fans that would stop seeing marvel films or angry parents who would stop supporting Disney as a whole! That's the way i interpreted it atleast. Because Disney's bigest market is families! And if the parents stop supporting then they'll force their children to stop supporting Disney too which would hurt Disney far more than angry fans would.
Y’all don’t realize, Peter Quill hit Thanos after Dr. Strange calculated there was only one scenario where the Avengers win. So really, Quill saved the universe when he hit Thanos. If he hadn’t, Thanos would have won, and the Avengers wouldn’t be able to undo the snap.
@@JMalaby89 i thought of this, but I had played a game called Zero Escape: virtue last reward and zero time dilema... they explained the MANY MANY variations of what ifs as they tried to find the time line that had the answer to save the world. And there were so many variations that its possible that there are time lines or realities where peter could have kept his cool. Dr. Strange would have also seen events where he did, but yet they didn't work in the end of it. Hence, he allowed the mishap to happen and the snap to occur. Cause in chess, the end game is where a victor is determined even if it means sacrificing everything to achieve it.
I always thought that “one victory” was Strange trading the Time Stone for Tony’s life. I want to say that Strange knew the snap would happen anyway, but the key was how to reverse it, and keeping Tony alive potentially is the key
Quill also figured out the plan to catch Thanos in the first place. I feel like people keep forgetting that. I'm not saying it justifies him, I'm saying it makes him neutral.
Great video, but you forgot something very important; the Guardians' dialogues (including Quill) were all written by James Gunn in Infinity War. And it shows, the way he acts in this movie is completely in tone with the way he acted in the Guardians movies, he is short-tempered, he always was (like almost getting his friends and himself killed over his walkman), it was that surprising that he ruined the whole plan when he learned about Gamora? if anything, Nebula is to blame, she KNOWS Quill, she KNEW how he was going to react, and she was the one confirming Gamora was dead knowing full well how Quill was going to react...heck, TONY knew how Quill was going to react, that is why he takes his helmet off and begs him to cool down and not "do it" (Tony does this because he knows he would have done the same if it was Pepper instead of Gamora). And I agree that he is the biggest underdog in the MCU...reason why I hated that they made him half-celestial, and I think Gunn himself hated that too, so that is why by the end of the movie it all goes back to the status quo (or "worse", with EGO's death, Quill is literally 100% human, he most likely couldnt hold an infinity stone now). Lastly, Infinity War has two of the best Quill moments in the entire MCU, the "what master do I serve? what am I suppoused to say, Jesus?", which was an inside joke because of how a devoted christian Chris Pratt is, and then when Tony calls him "Flash Gordon" to insult him, and Quill replies "that's a compliment"
That was a spot-on analysis. When I first saw Infinity War, I agreed with everyone that Peter Quill screwed it up, but the more I watched the movie, the more I realized he just couldn't handle the grief. You put that all into an excellent and entertaining 30 minute video. You definitely gained a sub!
Man, amazes me how much love and effort went into the GOTG movies by Gunn. I knew I loved the movies, but I didn’t know I LOVED the movies. Also, great pace and editing throughout the video. Even if it is 30 mins, felt like 10 to me. Great video.
Just finished this video... And didn't realize 30 minutes had passed. This video is fantastic. I want to share to all my friends who talked smack about Peter in Infinity War.
I also grew up without a father and the movie as a 15 year old boy opened my eyes to the truth. My dad was never coming back to see me after he left when I was born. And I appreciated it deeply. And it was the perfect movie to watch with my uncle as the movie, especially Yondu's death, made me realize he was my true father. And that's why Guardians of the Galaxy 2
You are 100% dead on with your readings of fatherhood abandonment issues in GoTG vol 2. I did not have a relationship with my father growing up and Quill's story in that film hit me deep inside. GoTG 2 is one of the very few MCU movies or even films in general that got me to cry. I don't really know what Gunn's relationship with his own father is like, but based on Vol 2 I'm willing to bet it's not ideal, he just gets it in a way that hard to emulate if you haven't experienced it yourself and carry that emotional baggage with you. It's a damn shame how Gunn's time at Marvel ended, they truly lost out on a great next level storyteller.
That was evil in lot of ways beacuse god loves us we shouldn't be so hateful towards him Hollywood is demonic I like movie dot get me wrong I am not chirstan I am this man who doesn't like it when they poke fun at Jesus he went through most painful pain ever that none of us can ever experience he did it to save us from our sins and from hell did it fix the broken bound between man and God
@@citriatus7046 I am not joking I am being serious it's ture they make fun of god which isn't right I like Marvel and the advengers but that part in that movie was mean and not called for see they won't make fun of islam beacuse it's not the truth they dot fellow Jesus they fellow the devil that why they dot poke fun at them only Christians beacuse they believe in one ture god Jesus
Every time I hear someone say that Starlord is the guilty of Thanos victory, I always tell them, "of course he is guilty, guilty of being a character with a human reaction", because the only thing he loved was taken from him. There are four characters with those characteristics on Infinity War and all four are given the same choice, kill one for the good of the universe, StarLord, Thor, Scarlet Witch and Thanos.
@@vibez2806 A human reaction is an understandable one. Was Hus actions stupid. Yep. But it is totally inline with his established character. Quill is absolutely the type of guy to get tunnel vision in a moment of anger and forget what's going on around him. The thing many people think, is that obviously he couldn't gave forgotten what's at stake. But I would argue that many people would do that in his shoes. Gamora was one of the very few good things in his screwed up life, her, and to a lesser extent the guardians are the last good thing he has. I could easily imagine, a moment, were my Mom was killed by a man, everyone else is gone, the man was being held down in front of me. My family is the only thing that matter to me, my Mom most of all This person, this piece of shit, took from we the last good thing I had left. The reason for me to care. In that moment, I'm sure I'd finally snap. My vision would turn red. I don't care about the consequences, I need to kill this man. Why should I care? Everyone I love is dead, my reason for living, so I don't care about the consequences, about the potential hurt others might go through. I can absolutely see myself in Peters place, and refuse to hate on him, because I'm not a hypocrite. Its hard to put yourself in other shoes, especially when you can't relate to there problems, but I can. I can absolutely see myself doing what Peter did, and unlike he is likely to be, I wouldn't feel bad. I would care if half the universe died, because everyone I care about is already dead, so why should I care. Call it selfish, but I don't care. I once said that if it was between my family, and 100,000,000 or so random people, I would choose my family overtime without remorse. But I also stated that if it was everyone else or then, I would chose everyone else. Why? Its not because I value humanity more, I just wouldn't want them to live in world were we would have to survive in the wild, as no one can manage anything, meaning we would have to just survive. I'm not willing to put them through that. So yeah, I would do what Peter did, I don't care if its selfish,I would do the exact same thing. I man care for people, try to be nice, understanding, but my love for my family outdoes my care for the entirety of humanity combined, millions of time over.
It’s kind of interesting how they avoided the Peters (Quill/Parker) acknowledging they shared a name. Thought they would do that when Quill had Parker in the headlock.
Tony: GET YOUR HANDS OFF PETER Peter Q:……..what? Drax: How is he meant to get his hands off himself Peter P: Wait you’re name’s Peter too? Peter Q: Yeah my name’s Peter, is your name Peter Dr.Strange: That’s literally what he just said **it goes on like this for 15 minutes**
Spoiler for endgame filled counter argument: If he HADN'T punched Thanos, the snap would have occurred either too early, or too late. Remember, the turning point in the beginning of endgame is that Scott lang escapes the quantum realm thanks to rodent ex machina five years later. Without that 5 year gap, Iron man wouldn't have had time to build his own gauntlet, banner wouldn't have been able to tame his Hulk form, and likely more small differences that wouldn't have led to the most optimal outcome. After all if they HAD managed to get the gauntlet off thanos, none of the people on titan could have used it without dying to kill thanos, and it's not likely they'd be able to get the drop on Thanos to kill him, even if he was completely mantis-tranced. Strange may have been able to take the gauntlet elsewhere, but Thanos and his minions wouldn't have stopped.
Exactly! Also in endgame when Scarlet witch was giving it her all, Thanos wouldn’t stop even when he was about to be crushed into tiny fragments. This bastard’s determination to get the stones outways his enemies brainpower to try and take the gauntlet. He was so focused on getting the stones that in the end he fucked up actually having them in his gauntlet, letting iron man take the last snap. There is no way in hell they would’ve been able to get the gauntlet off of him without an entire army.
If Thanos hadn’t snapped exactly when he did, Scott wouldn’t have been quantum that moment, and no one would have seriously realized the possibility of time-stone-less time travel
yeah,he and his team saved a SINGLE galaxy twice,he then went on to be responsible,single handedly, for the deaths of 50%,potentially more, of ALL life in the universe, which has OVER 100 BILLION galaxies in it.
Connor O'Neill - "yeah,he and his team saved a SINGLE galaxy twice,he then went on to be responsible,single handedly, for the deaths of 50%,potentially more, of ALL life in the universe, which has OVER 100 BILLION galaxies in it." too true
One of the biggest problems I had with Endgame was how they handled Gamora. Now GOTG 1&2 meant nothing and she doesn’t even know Peter so sad 😭 I loves their build up. It was so natural.
I honestly love how they handled Star Lord's emotions in Vol 2 and Infinity War. His attacking Ego after the revelation of what he did to his mother felt so emotionally satisfying, and I connected with that. I feel like most people would react that way to finding out someone killed their mother. Its a human moment, one that is grounded but good. Yet its that same impulsive reaction to emotion that hurts him so much in Infinity War. And that is so true to real life as well. We all have strengths and weaknesses, but oftentimes it depends on the situation to determine which category our traits fall in to.
@@FullFatVideos well, its a matter of image preservation, Disney is still widely known as a company for children after all, so the whole pedophilia thing is just not a good look, even if the company and Hollywood as a whole is full of it anyways
what people like the one who made this video fail to understand is that james gunn was fired because the progressive bent that people have put on social media which companies like disney adopt to gain favor and sales. they were forced to fire james because they were being held to their own standards to not fire him would mean that they would be hypocrites to everything they now stand for. what it all boils down to is if one side is going to go through years of social media posting looking to ruin someone for out of context comments the other side will do the same. that's what happened to james gunn. he is a victim of social justice and the effect it has on politics through social media. so no disney isn't going to magically rehire james.
Favorite Hero: Thor Favorite Character: Star-Lord Favorite Hero I Looked Up To Since I was Younger: Spider-Man Favorite Character I Hate to Love: Loki Favorite Character I Love to Hate: lmao no one these characters are epic
Phenomenal editing, pacing and explanation. I love this character on a whole different level thanks to this video-essay. Talk about not knowing you needed something until you had it
which is so sad. Especially since Rocket's arc in 2 was that he shouldn't push people away for fear of being alone. Now that he has embraced them, well they've all left him and he's alone.
29:05 I always think of that guy and his family when when I see Pete's face drop like a stone when he's told, by Thor of Xandar's fall. Probably about as close a thing to a friend in the Nova Corp Quill has, AND as close as we get to personification of Xandar. Thor's casual line and Peter's shattered look tells it all. Damn good work, even on one of the most transient moments of the story in IW...
“Your life has already been defined as with being without him” that one hits home really hard :,) Love these videos and just how deep you can examine movies nowadays.
I think one of the best defenses I've seen of Peter Q. is that not only did he just lose the love of his life (after a life of losing everyone he grows attached to) but that the one who killed her said he "had to" which is basically the same thing Ego said about killing Peter's mother.
Full Fat Videos Great to know. I have an idea of one you should do after seeing Endgame: how the Russo brothers handled Captain Marvel, making her relatable to audiences (assuming that’s what happens in the course of the story).
@@FullFatVideos Yeah saw this and been going through your backlog. All I can say is make more full fat videos like this, like full beefy essays not short impressions or any of that fluff.
This video completely describes why Peter Quill is one of my favorite characters in the MCU. His positive and upbeat optimism is breathtaking. Also, the line about dealing with his shitty childhood causing him to jump head first into whimsy hit home with me. More than anything, after watching a few of your videos tonight, I've subscribed and not just because you produce fantastic videos but because there is a warmth and kindness that radiates from you guys!
Finally someone who isn't stomping on this character. Quill has proven himself to be one of the most relatable characters in the MCU. After seeing his reaction in Volume 2. learning how his mother got sick, I wasn't surprised how he reacted and I honestly felt with him. I myself grew up without my father who left my younger than Quil was, and I honestly might have loved to reunite with him and catch up on the things I never had as a kid. I was the only child and was often isolated from the others. Sometimes I would try to be funny and just end up awkward, much like how Quill is most of the time. But i often learn from my mistakes, even if it means failing from them again and again. Honestly, it was Tony's fault for having separated the Avengers before Infinity War, and never even called Steve when the attack happen, he let his ego in the way. When learning Gamor died, he completely lost his shit because he was tired of people around him who he has cared for keep slipping away from his fingers. I probably will 100% react the same way, I let my anger get the best of me sometimes. But like Peter, I want to show people the best version of myself, and that is why I still love Star-Lord. Comment what you guys think.
@@FullFatVideos Please don't gloss over his flaws like other videos about him, Steve Rogers the Living Legend is also a lying hypocritical battle hungry anti-authority stick in the mud. Don't get me wrong I like the guy, but he's just as fucked up as everybody else.
Li-Li Mandragon lol Cap isn’t a hypocrite and he isn’t anti-authority either. He just believes legality is not a guide for morality. He knows this and won’t let the law stop him from doing what’s right.
Yo your analysis of how Peter's father just "shows up as if his absence wouldn't be of consequence" hit me square in the chest. This is exactly how my dad showed up when I was 10 years old.. glad to hear that I'm not the only one!
I mean Originally I believed he was to blame. However, Dr Strange said there was only one universe where they were successful. Meaning that if StarLord hasn’t done that they would have lost later down the line
imho…what i liked about the psychology of quill costing them the fight…is that earlier while they were planning…he dropped this line "…Don’t forget, I’m half human. So that 50% of me that’s stupid, that’s 100% you." …yet it was his humanity that was over came by emotion and rage that blinded the task at hand and made a "stupid" move (THE 50 PERCENT OF HIS HUMANITY ESSENTIALLY LEAD TO DECIMATING 50 PERCENT OF THE UNIVERSE LIFE FORMS)…another great display from the writers by getting the audience to invest into these characters…this relates to our lives when making a "stupid" decision during pressure situations…so we fully understand and feel for this scene
I've really been enjoying your MCU character analyses. In this, you've articulated things I only subconsciously felt/observed about Quill, and I really appreciate it! Would love to see you cover more of the characters. Great work!
Peter Quill is by far the most relatable character in the MCU for me personally. As soon as he landed after they trapped Thanos, i KNEW he was going to lose his shit, because I FELT THAT WAY TOO. Once Peter got that info, it was going to be all over, he was going to see red. The writing was SPOT THE FUCK ON.
It's crazy that Chris Pratt use to be just the Parks and Recs guy, now he is easily one of the most talented members of the MCU and delivered some of the best lines in the Infinity Saga.
I couldn’t believe the backlash against Quill after Infinity War with everyone complaining about his “failure “. I’m not in anyway a violent person but a few years ago after a guy blew through a stop sign and almost struck my daughter in a crosswalk and then stopped his car to yell at her I attacked him despite her pleading with me not to. I have a Ph.D in chemistry and yet in the heat of an anger fueled rage was about to do something that could ruin my life. If the guy hadn’t gotten back into his car and fled I probably would have. I’m in no way proud of my reaction. My daughter was terrified seeing me out of control. My point is never judge someone unless you’ve ever been in a similar circumstance.
Matthew Conrad This. THIS. TTTHHHHIIISSSS!!!!!! THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID WHEN HE LOST CONTROL!!!! I'm glad to know that everything ended up okay and Im sorry your daughter went through that.
Warrior Studios i don’t understand what he means but that though? Like wtf could cap have done? Could you explain please i’m fucking lost on his importance
@Lemon Lemon Neeerrd! I knew it would be said at some point. It doesn't work with TH-cam's naming structure. Just imagine it's there. And stay golden. "Everyone's a critic" is playing through my mind. lol
@Lemon Lemon You aren't... mad... are you? I'm a little swamped with villains and the whole *snap* thing. Maybe work out a partnership? *mad scientist joke, hope that's clear* And I should've said "you forgot the hyphen" that would've been... so cool. To be clear, there's no animosity or anything on my end. Want to be crystal about that. Just making jokes. I don't want to needlessly offend anyone. That's a dick move. (Because tone is hard to convey)
@@themadtitan7603 You know if you have the infinity gauntlet you could just make more resources for people instead of killing half of the population right?
josh treola people would just start to consume more and inevitably lead to a shortage of resources again. People are greedy. One person will always choose to take more than they need. That’s why there’s a 1% in real life. Imo
This is an amazing video. Peter Quill is an amazing and well written character, definitely one of the best in the MCU. His and Gamora's relationship is the MCUs best (in my opinion), and the Guardians as a team feel much more like a caring yet realistically mildly disnfuntional family than any other. GOTG 1 and GOTG 2 were both amazing masterpieces. James Gunn knows what he's doing.
I think the problem with Peter's failure in Infinity War is that he isn't redeemed or explicitly qualified in Endgame. If Strange just came out and said that the only version of the future that would work is a direct result of Peter effing up, then I would be satisfied. This is basically implied, of course, but an explicit reference to clear him would have gone a long way for audiences, I think.
I can understand why the people who were mad at him in Infinity War complained about how unfairly he was treated in Endgame. He's treated like a bumbling, incompetent fool who gets punched by War Machine, kicked in the balls by 2014 Gamora and replaced as the leader of the Guardians by Thor.
So Endgame happened because:
1. Quill aimed for the head
2. Thor didn't aim for the head
Thor was still the highlight of IW
3. Strange savec Tony, but he's dead anyways so HEH
@@jmac9327 you ever read an opinion that just makes you lol?
And none of these events were foreseen by Strange. Because let’s be honest they would have won those timelines no doubt
Star Lord: “So what did you see?”
Strange: “14 million 6 hundred and 5 futures.”
Stark: “How many did we win?”
Strange: “14 million 6 hundred and 5!”
Spider-Man: “how many did Disney win?”
Strange: “One!!”
Everyone's mad at him, but at least he went for the head
I'm watching the movie right now and I just noticed that Thanos was somehow fighting with Spider-boi's web still over his eyes, he's an absolute mad lad
Yes he went for the head. But apparently, in all of the 14 million + scenarios that Dr Strange viewed, Thor goes for the heart in every single one of them.
@@scott00049What if there was a senerio where peter didn't hit Mantis' hand and just got to keep hitting Thanos lol
Also, using gun as a blunt weapon was a dumb decision
@@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap yeah...he should've just shot Thanos point blank in the head...that might've worked.
@@scott00049 or in every single one where he GETS A CHANCE to go for the head, he doesn't.
@@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap yo i just realized he hit mantis hand..i thought he woke him up
underdog ?- he won that dance off fair and square.
Ooooh he just got served
You can be an underdog and win fairly
i still say tahnos is underdog in the danceoff
MeeseeksDK I hope you’re joking, Ronin was the villain in GOTG
Or he was the good guy
He lost his mom,
killed his real dad,
lost his 2nd dad,
and finally,
lost his girlfriend.
So, give the guy a break. He has lost so much to the point that he's become broken. Peter Quill is one of the most tragic characters in the MCU.
The GoTG is my favorite team in the MCU :)
Him, Wanda and Thor are tied in for losing everything.
Star Lord - childhood, mother, father, Foster father, love of his life, his power
Thor - parents, brother, his hammer, girlfriend, his ppl, his eye at one point, his best friend
Wanda - *everything* with the bonus ppl are afraid of her power
Horen LastTeacher How about Thor?
It really contextualizes his interaction with Thor in IW. Peter admitting he had a messed up backstory to Thor is played for laughs then, but in reality he and Thor have very similar pasts. (Dead parents, exploding planets, Thanos killing loved ones.)
Give Thor one...
My Dad left as soon as he knew my mom was pregnant.
I never knew who he was or anything really. Since my mom never wanted to talk about him
But once I was 11, they told me he was suddenly waiting for me at home?
He turned out to be some rich corporate guy. Not what I was expecting either. But guess what? Things got rough and once I was 15 he left me again to start a new life in China.
Starlord has always been my favourite. He is like the only super hero that I actually felt connected with. Also his entire personality and way of approaching or dealing with things kinda remind me of myself.
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
*hugs*
I got you Bro, my father left me when I'm six years old I know how you feel
Im sorry you had to go thru that, I never knew my real dad I had a step dad that hated me and treated me like crap so I can definitely relate to peter cuz now I'm an adult and ppl who know me would never tell what I been thru cuz I'm always joking even when things get serious I'm always cracking jokes but when I need to get stuff done I'm able to get serious and get it done so I peter quill is one of the rare characters in cinema where I actually see a bit of myself if in many ways down to his love of his music too
Who cares... My dad left me too, but im not crying trying to get likes on youtube
@@bimgusfriestad7132 How can u be watching the full fat starlord video and say something so mean to someone else? And isn't the attention seeking nature of your comment a bit of a "pot calling the kettle black," thing to say? And if you're not seeking attention by speaking your mind, then why r u throwing that shade on someone else for speaking theirs?
"He's not stupid, he's uneducated."
Important point, that.
👊
@@dh5573 I've said it before, I'll say it again. There is a reason that Intelligence and Wisdom are two different stats.
@@prince_nocturne Intelligence is how much you have on your harddrive, Wisdom is the knowledge to know which folder you need to open to get the best answer
@@Tijnob Intelligence is knowing the downsides of Dihydromonoxide.
Wisdom is knowing how gullible everyone around you is.
Charisma is convincing your entire school to ban water.
And that was my senior prank almost 20 years ago.
@@dh5573 I mean is it? He didn't have an education... like... noone taught him things
"You shouldn't have killed my mom and squished my Walkman" is probably one of the best lines in cinematic history.
Wow literally when I read this comment, I heard this in the video
You said it yourself bitch, we're the guardians of the galaxy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm Mary poppins y'all
@@Jonasgulliksen That's a fake laugh.
Also, Ego’s sudden arrival kinda represents absent parents finally come to say hi when you do something successful. Ego only shows up because peter held the power stone. Kinda like how absent parents show up when you win the lottery, or get accepted into a college.
Oof that hit too close to home-
Andrew Gallagher wait that makes sense
Wow, never saw that before. Good point.
yeah this is the first thing I thought of when looking at this video. And it seems even worse with Ego, because while I thankfully don't have personal experience in this myself, but it seems like plenty of times that part of that absent parent's frame of mind is a real feeling of worthlessness and failure (which I don't at all mean to just be an "excuse" for the act), and their WHOLE thing about coming back at the child's peak, especially if there's money involved, is how can I also benefit from this. Whereas with the Ego character, that's absolutely a part of it, he wants to then use Peter to help further what he wants to do and be in the universe, but also... well, his name IS "Ego" lol He's ALWAYS regarded himself as something above any other living thing, he didn't leave because of feelings of personal inadequacy, but that if the given offspring doesn't immediately show to be biologically superior as well he has not a single care it even exists.
:(
GotG: Peter has mom issues
GotG2: Peter has dad issues
Infinity War: Peter has father in law issues
GotG3: Peter has marriage issues
@@JayLeu or mother in law issues. Wait.... O_O
That is the main plotline.
SiR Re. GotG5: Peter has daughter/son issues.
Seen this in the reading tweets video
I've never gotten the anger at Quill. His reaction is honestly the most... human reaction in the movie.
YEP!!! COULDN'T agree MORE!!! ❤😢😭
The real question is... How did Peter Quill's headphones last that long?
Well he is from a time before programmed obsolescence :v
Not to mention that Mixed Tape cassette.
I have the original Xbox and it is broken. He has a Walkman from the 80s and it still works
I had a walkman in the eighties. Those headphones back then worked maybe 3 months tops.
I think he re programmed it to last longer
Gunn: You could not live with your own failure....
*Mickey reluctantly looks at Gunn as they rehire him for Guardians 3*
Gunn: Where did that bring you?
*Back to me*
I am inevetable
And I..... am challenging you to a dance off, bro!
Probably 5
Gunn: you wanna try and fire me again?
*angry mob of fans wait outside*
Disney: no, i dont think i will
VOLUME 3 WILL BE DIRECTED BY JAMES G. IT WAS JUST CONFIRMED!!!!
Fuck yeah!
In the words of Rocket : "Exactly".
In the words of Groot: "I am Groot."
Babababa bingooo
In the words of Volume 1: "I got a feeling."
Infinity War was all about the heroes failing because of their flaws, not just because of that scene Star Lord.
1.) Tony could've called Cap immediately after Bruce told him about Thanos but he didn't.
2. Thor could've just killed Thanos outright instead of inching slowly through his chest, but he didn't.
3. Cap and Wanda could've fulfilled Vision's request to destroy the mind stone way before Wakanda, but they decided that trading lives was too much.
All these failures including Star Lord's affected the movies outcome heavily and they humanize these beloved characters even more. The decisions they made aren't out-of-character or just a reason to make another film. These decisions actually make sense for those specific characters to make.
Also sacrificial choices. Echoing "the hardest choices requires the greatest will" and the Soul Stone. Each stone came with a hard choice and sacrifice from the heroes.
- Power, we don't know
- Space, Loki saved Thor
- Reality, Quill tried to kill Gamora
- Soul, Gamora saved Nebula
- Time, Strange saved Tony
- Mind, Wanda killed Vision
Every other choice was an easy one. They had options where they didn't need to sacrifice anything.
@@vincentmagiusThanos killed the people of Xandar to get the Power Stone
@@vincentmagius Wouldn't the sacrifice for the power stone be Groot in Guardians 1?
@@Eclipsed_Archon For this, the sacrifice would need to be on Xandar. Possibly performed by Nova Prime or Corpsman Dey.
Groot's sacrifice put the stone in Nova Corp hands. Each of the sacrifices in Infinity War put the stone in Thanos' hand.
Adding to that, if Loki didn't take the space stone in Thor Ragnarok, the stone would've been destroyed by Surtur, as stated by Thor in Infinity War.
It's actually pretty annoying how people think that the heroes can't do mistakes or it's character assassination or something silly like that. Mistakes make things more interesting.
100%
But also, people are allowed to disagree with the direction director/writers take with a character. Nobody's wrong or right in that argument.
SuperArppis yeah, but only for reasonable, understandable, justified mistakes( in Star lord case). Stupid dumb mistakes are unforgiveable
@@zingzaber6989 but people are only disagreeing with the "direction" because it wasn't the "optimal strategy" that's literally it. It was PERFECTLY in character.
@@dylanmcla
Some people, sure. Not everyone.
I would say Ant-Man is the most ordinary hero in the MCU after taking into account how much they downplay his martial arts training, engineering degree, and being good at stealing stuff.
Will we have ant-man steal the guantlet in end game?
No Master in electrical engineering is ignorant about quantum physics.
TheInternetIsConfusing yeah let's just ignore his ability to change size.
@@theangrychameleon3226 thats his suit's ability not his
TheInternetIsConfusing you could say the same thing about characters like the Falcon or War Machine, almost everyone is ordinary without their suits or powers.
Also, does anyone seriously think Tony would have been able to keep his cool if Thanos had just confessed t killing Pepper?
Nope, and I would've defended him too.
Or if thors girl friend was still alive? Would a man who lost everything EXCEPT her keep his cool? what if captain americas old girlfriend was killed by him? Could he keep his? ANY of these characters would’ve lost it and done something stupid.
@@game-enjoyer13 Nothing truer can be said.
@@game-enjoyer13 The thing is that MOST of these characters _DID_ do something stupid, and all failed because of it.
Tony refused to return to Earth and fight alongside the rest of the squad (make up with Steve, etc.). He thought he, Strange, and Parker could take Thanos on (seriously?).
Gamora gave up Vormir to save Nebula.
Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos in order to spare Tony's life.
Scarlet Witch refused to destroy the Mind Stone waaaaay before Thanos was ever on the playing field because she couldn't face killing Vision.
The Nova Corps couldn't keep the Power Stone safe.
The Collector was no match for Thanos in keeping the Reality Stone safe (given to him by Sif/Asgard in Thor 2).
Hulk refused to come out and fight after getting his ass whooped once.
Thor refused to go for the killing blow against Thanos because he regressed into hubris and arrogance in what would've been Thanos' final moments in order to get the last word in ("I told you you'd pay for that" - type speech).
Yet, the ONLY character in Infinity War who *_WAS WILLING_* to sacrifice something supremely important to them was Quill, when he *PULLED THE TRIGGER TO KILL GAMORA*. That obviously failed, but it wasn't his fault.
AND he had previously sacrificed a huge part of himself in Guardians 2 by killing Ego, and therefore his half-Demi God status, in order to save his FRIENDS.
There's LITERALLY nothing of merit when I hear someone saying that "it was all Quill's fault", because, if they paid attention, it wasn't.
OH! And yet, after all the individual failures, it *_HAD_* to be this way. Only 1 in 14,000,605 possible futures in which they defeat Thanos.
#NotQuillsFault
Oh the mental gymnastics we do to cover for our man crushes
Finally someone recognizing GOTG 2 for the masterpiece it really is
Both GotG movies are masterpieces... CAN'T WAIT FOR VOL. 3!!!!
I think GOTG is better . cause they wasn't heros yet , and I love watching them being criminals
Damn you really disrespecting Lindsay Ellis like that?
GOTG vol. 2 is my 2nd favorite MCU movie. Very close but Infinity War HAS to be the best.
GOTG 2 is my all time favorite movie. Hands down. It still makes me laugh and cry every time.
"Are you seriously not gonna shake that kid's hand, Stephen?"
I couldn't hold it in.
To be fair, Stephen's hands are fucked up; it would probably hurt like a bitch to have super-strength Spiderman squeeze them.
Also, Strange was just tortured with needles. I can give the guy a break there.
That scene was my favorite, "Oh, we're using our made-up names! Then I am Spiderman."
He does have a super power: best dancer in the galaxy.
Ronan: "What are you doing?"
Peter: "Dance off bro. Just me and you."
Me and you
Lawrence Grott “hand it off.... ok take it back!”
Take it away Drax! Drax snoring.
He got some respect from me when he actually commited to shooting gamora
Evan Lu That scene alone cemented him as one of my favorite characters in the film.
It wasn't really his fault dr strange could have stopped him but he didn't it's all part of the plan
chris the killer That’s such a cop-out answer
@@figurativefluff 😂😂😂😂
Well it certainly gained Thanos’s respect.
I love the moment of him hitting Thanos because it calls back to when he shot Ego immediately after he said he killed his mom. Peter has shown to go into a rage when someone he loves is in danger/dead etc. It turns that around on its head. When it happens in Guardians 2 it's a cheer moment, and then it turns into a what the fuck man moment.
btw I heard this somewhere it's not my idea but I love the explanation. It really makes sense to me.
TH-camUser
Exactly, he’s just like Luke Skywalker
The Russos completely contradict the advice Yondu gave Quill. In Guardians 2, Star-Lord learns how to use his heart. He beat Ego by acting without thinking. One of the main reasons Thanos wins is because Star-Lord acted without thinking.
@@dannypalin9583 he is flawed, its not impossible for you to repeat mistakes, plus he lost someone he loved and she is the last loved one he have left, his mother, father and dad died.
@@abdmin3268 Rest assured, I'm not criticising. I'm interested in how they turned Yondu's message on its head.
@@dannypalin9583 well it's not the best advice if applied in every situation. Also Yondu was a space pirate dude.
People who complained that Star-Lord didn't act rationally cleary forgot that Star-Lord wasn't always the most emotionally stable character in the MCU, it actually is more interesting this way, we have flawed characters who don't always act rationally.
You're just saying that because it made you win.
@@gavindalf2547 You accuse me of being baised mortal ?
The Mad Titan your going to die for all the lives you killed. The Avengers will defeat you and bring everyone back
Or out of all the potential in-law you meet. Quill is your favorite right?
Pretty much everybody in the MCU is flawed af. Look at Iron Man in Age of Ultron and Civil War with Cap, Thor dealing his grief in Infinity War, Hulk in Ragnarok, etc. etc.
Star Lord is legit my favorite mcu character, he's so relatable and sad and funny and is all in all, in my opinion, the consistently best written character in the entire thing. I relate to him on a few different levels and its both cathartic and heartbreaking to watch him
I 1000% agree!!! He's MY absolutely favorite, as well!!; and Chris Pratt is my favorite Actor and he plays the Character to an absolute "T"!!!
I'm really not one who comments on videos often unless I have something important to say. I did grow up with both parents, and I DID feel that Peter's reaction was genuine. I knew kids without a certain parent (mother or father) and while as children you could tell they wanted to meet them, as they grew older my friends stopped caring. It became a hard apathy. If anything, he was a little too open; however, Ego IS manipulative and provided Peter with exactly what he wanted to hear. This was a good movie with good writing. Thanks for reading, I know it was long.
I'm not gonna lie, if I was Peter I would have been seduced by Ego's promises. Usually that apathy is just there to cover the wound. There is plenty of emotion still under there, waiting to be ripped open. Especially when so much has been left unresolved. Here comes Ego offering answers, security, power, and fatherly pride and affection. If he had just stuck with "that darn cancer took your mom away" he would have won, which is why his ego forced him to reveal the truth and push the plot forward. So, agreed that it was brilliant writing.
Ego's planet and promises were PERFECTLY designed to appeal to a small boy - the small boy who was abducted by Yondu. A boy who had just lost his mother and had no friends and no other family with him would have been ripe for manipulation. Even decades later, Peter is almost fully taken in (until he finds out Ego is the reason his mother died).
"He may have been ya father, boy. But he wasn't ya daddy"
That line makes me tear up ever time.
I'M MARY POPPINS, Y'ALL
My favorite quote from this entire video is: "he's not stupid, he's uneducated." This is a great distinction to make. Smarts can come from anywhere.
Absolutely!
Momentarily But we know that Disney wouldn't let that and everybody [ except 2] will appear with the magic of the infinity stones
Many of them (MCU characters) had their moment of weakness and failed to do what they were supposed to do in Infinity War.
Thor, Scarlet Witch, The Hulk, etc.
24:27 I feel the need to point out something that everyone seems to have missed. Peter is a master Strategist and thief. While Tony is simply a good tactician.
When it comes to planning a fight he prefers to use a fist to hammer in a nail. For example - In the Avengers Infinity war - Tony uses everyone else's plans to overcome his foes. Cull Obsidian has his hand chopped off and teleported away by Wong and Peter Parker shares his strategy of defeating Ebony Maw by sucking him out of his own ship. His plans usually boil down to "here's what we should aim for, this is what we need to avoid", rather than give orders to each teammate that Peter Quill or Captain America would. Meanwhile Quill is somewhat resourceful but strategic - A thief, able to delegate jobs and create distractions and plan ahead of his opponents moves.
Tony's ability to wage war is perfectly encapsulated in this quote from the Original Avengers.
"Tony we need a plan of attack"
"I have a plan... ATTACK"
Which, when you think about it, might be a window into Stark as CEO. As the big boss, he knows what his objectives are, but he's always had somebody there to worry about the more minor details, whether it be Pepper at Stark Industries or Captain America in the Avengers. Even in the first two Avengers movies, he just sort of sets broad objectives (close that portal, get the scepter). It's Cap who handles the "how" portion.
I think that's a better way of putting it than "Stark couldn't do it." Stark is a reactive tactician. The fight happens, and Stark finds a way to complete the goal, probably using one of a million resources that are already there 'just in case', but not with a definite plan. It's more like a flowchart with a lot of arrows. The reason that MCU Stark has trouble leading a team is that it's difficult to give other people timely instructions based on the reactions he's seeing. By the time he can make them get it, the moment's passed, the flowchart has changed. He might have had a slightly better chance with other highly intelligent solo fighters (like Spidey and Strange), who can think and react to things on a similar level, but that wouldn't have worked for everyone there. The Guardians are a team (one which he was fighting just a little while beforehand), and Quill is their quarterback.
Plus, if you watch the whole scene, as soon as he says he has the beginnings of a plan, Drax is yawning, Quill is immediately bucking any semblance of authority (easy, because Stark is one of those folks that walks into a room and assumes he's in charge), Mantis is... being Mantis, and Stark seems to see it all as either disrespectful or unprofessional or both. He never actually got to a plan. At that point, it'd be entirely plausibe that he wouldn't even try to call a real play there because the trust and knowledge of ability wasn't present, and just chilling out long enough to try to gain any part of that, or just not a sense resentment and distrust, didn't look to be in the cards. Better to just give them a general goal and let them do what comes naturally. Or fall into their plan and try to make the flowchart work.
Other way around: Stark has an endgame (strategy) versus a tactic (accomplishment of that strategy). Strategy defines objectives, tactics accomplishes them.
So Stark's "plan" - "draw [Thanos] in, pin him down, get the gauntlet, we do not want to dance with this guy" - is 100% true. It's even what they ATTEMPTED to do. The details, i.e. the tactics, were fleshed out by Quill, but Stark had the understanding of the situation and ultimate goal that informed how to implement step-by-step, concrete actions.
@@seraphcross85 Then again, Quill says and I quote "for the record, this was my plan" and it was totally working.
@@CybrosisEvolved The same Quill who earlier told his whole crew that he wasn't changing his voice (which was obviously not the same as it was two minutes before) in response to their reaction to Thor. Based on that line, the plan could have been Drax's for all we would know.
Tony refused to return to Earth and fight alongside the rest of the squad (make up with Steve, etc.). He thought he, Strange, and Parker could take Thanos on (seriously?).
Gamora gave up Vormir to save Nebula.
Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos in order to spare Tony's life.
Scarlet Witch refused to destroy the Mind Stone waaaaay before Thanos was ever on the playing field because she couldn't face killing Vision.
The Nova Corps couldn't keep the Power Stone safe.
The Collector was no match for Thanos in keeping the Reality Stone safe (given to him by Sif/Asgard in Thor 2).
Hulk refused to come out and fight after getting his ass whooped once.
Thor refused to go for the killing blow against Thanos because he regressed into hubris and arrogance in what would've been Thanos' final moments in order to get the last word in ("I told you you'd pay for that" - type speech).
Yet, the ONLY character in Infinity War who *_WAS WILLING_* to sacrifice something supremely important to them was Quill, when he *PULLED THE TRIGGER TO KILL GAMORA*. That obviously failed, but it wasn't his fault.
AND he had previously sacrificed a huge part of himself in Guardians 2 by killing Ego, and therefore his half-Demi God status, in order to save his FRIENDS.
There's LITERALLY nothing of merit when I hear someone saying that "it was all Quill's fault", because, if they paid attention, it wasn't.
And yet, after all the individual failures, it *_HAD_* to be this way. Only 1 in 14,000,605 possible futures in which they defeat Thanos.
#NotQuillsFault
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Good argument, I still think he's at fault. Not entirely his fault, but he played his part
@@Harshhaze The point is that everyone played their part, and to only blame Peter is ridiculous.
@@munromister777 Exactly. Even the events of previous films played a part in how it all ended.
How do I copy and paste this into every sing thread on reddit that’s blaming Peter Quill for Thanos killing half the universe
despite all peter quills flaws, I still love him more than any other character in the MCU. if anything, some of those flaws make him more relatable, and I really look forward to his future adventures
Respectable.
SAME I LOVE HIM AND CAP THE MOST
I FIND QUILL SIMILAR TO CAP
@@uttkarshsinha1815 i don't consider cap relatable cap is not as much a human as he is a hero.
SAME HERE!!!
Funny how GoG is more down to earth relatable to some of us than the Avengers or any of the stand alone avenger’s movies.
The line when Thanos says " I had too" while being mind-melded by mantiz Then Star Lord responding "no you didn't" he isn't talking to Thanos. Before, when Star lord pulled the trigger even though bubbles came out of his blaster, in his mind he was willing to kill the love of his life for the sake of the galaxy this was probably a shock and surprise even to him. He may have made a promise but seriously who expects themselves to be in that position. After learning that Gamora is really dead, he doesn't blame himself for failing to stop Thanos. He blames himself for being no better than Thanos. Thanos had to sacrifice the one thing he loved the most for the soul stone which was Gamora. Try to imagine in that moment being face to face with the man that killed the most important person in you life and realizing you tried and were willing to do the same. You are no better than the thing you hate. He may be swinging at Thanos but Peter is trying wildly to destroy himself in that moment and he succeeds.
thats a great point holy shit
Omg write an essay on that it’s brilliant
you sir, are awesome, everything you said is exactly what i thought
woah
The thing that what you said that makes it great is that when Peter tried to kill Gamora and the gun became bubbles. Thanos said I like him. Maybe because theyre the same in a way haha
Sometimes we don't need hero with superpowers, sometimes we need underdog that represent how powerfull and flawed humans are
Phantom that's why Man of Steel Sucks
Phantom I agree everybody like to see how underdog can win
Iron man has no super powers either
He doesnt look like an underdog to me
But starlord has powers! I’m so confused because he has super speed he can survive in space and is a half celestial.
@@siamz Did you even watch GotG 2?
I never read into the character arcs as much as this and it makes infinity war so much more brutal, literally in tears.
I'm a guy with a stepdad whose real father left when I was born
Years later during middle school I end up meeting the guy for about a week when i learn that he feels he wants nothing to do with me. This is the first time I'm even made aware that my dad isn't biologically related to me.
Everyone I knew, from friends and siblings to parents or school counselors kept greeting me like I was some fragile kid about to break from his disinterest.
In reality, I didn't know the guy
And I had my dad, my stepfather
A guy who married my mom after he knew I was there and chose to assume a responsibility for me that he has no need to take on.
It baffles me how anyone could assume I'd be emotionally devastated over this person i dont know. It would be like falling to my knees in anguish if some random person cut in front of me in a line or something. It was that kind of level. Annoying at best.
If anything, the only strong emotion I really felt was a confusion as to how I fit into my family
I only truly had a blood connection to my mother. My Dad was now just a guy i knew and my full-blood siblings were now revealed to be only half related. I think if there was a shock, it came from a loss of the connection I felt couldn't be taken from me. Not from some sudden understanding of "You dont have this thing that you never needed".
So I feel I relate to Starlords lack of a stronger response to Ego
Can somewhat relate. Mostly absent harsh father suddenly tried to be good guy dad when I was in my lat 20's Way too late, like it didn't matter anymore.
@@alanparsonsfan
If the guy had really tried I'd have allowed him to. I even went camping with him.
But turned out he was in court with my mom for child pay and if I lived with him he'd be able to escape his fines. To this day I find it hilarious that he though roughly a week of interaction would convince me to betray the woman who sacrificed so much to raise me.
Now, if you dad's being real about it, I'd say give him the chance. But watch to make sure there isnt some other reason.
Great video. All the main characters lost due to not their flaws per se, but their virtues. Everything they hold dear.
Cap's refusal to kill Vision - though definitely heroic - was a flaw that led to defeat.
Strange swore to protect the time stone when he could have destroyed it, and did not.
Thor - here a vice - could have killed Thanos but decided to gloat.
Only Iron Man didn't lose by any flaws. Though the effect of defear was still devastating after spending all those years and mistakes (Ultron) to prepare for it. His intelligence wasn't enough.
And Starlord, as the video said: his grounded emotional human quality. He let his emotions get in the way when it usually helps, and he failed as a leader twice, the one thing he was good at.
All the heroes were defeated not just physically, but ideologically too.
Excellent points, expect me to touch a little on point one very soon x
Thanos deserved to win.
Iron man kinda lost due to his own arrogance and over aggressiveness. Not to mention his refusal to mend things with Steve and unite the avengers
@@xaalcarlsonanimations1539 That's true. Though to be fair he would have called Steve but didn't get time
Strange couldn't really destroy the Time Stone anyway. I always thought that dialogue was weird. He's all like "We took an oath." And I'm just thinking: why not point out it can't just simply be disposed of?
Honestly you've opened my eyes to see that hes a really good character. thank you, friend. you've earned a subscriber.
thank you sweet doggo
A really good character doesn't get half the universe killed. That actually makes him the most terrible character.
ReverendSyn did you NOT watch the video?
The problem is you shouldn’t have a 30 minute video essay to understand a good character
Unless you really didn't care about the character but decided to hear why the character you dislike is so good, thus having your mind changed
Starting today, James Gunn has been rehired by Disney and Marvel, and he will be making GotG Vol 3
I’ve never been happier
Also Disney bought and owns fox now , so Marvel can now make Xmen and fantastic four movies and do crossovers
horrible news. theres too many pedophiles in hollywood
@Whizzie he made jokes 10 years ago ON TWITTER, and at the time he was known for making really sleezy and inappropriate movies so it makes sense, AND he already apologized TWICE before this whole ordeal, really glad to see he's back
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The line "and what's so wrong with that" is by far my favourite of the MCU. Peter's humanity is what makes him a hero, and his realisation of this , and him being absolutely fine with losing his powers because of it is great
I'm a simple man. I see #RehireJamesGunn, I give the video a thumbs up.
Edit: They finally did it! They rehired Gunn!
Some people move on, but not us.
Naughty Niffler I have a #RehireJamesGunn tattoo - the vid already had my 👍, you've gotten my thumbs up, too 😉👍
@UC5Tg6auMu0--QJ6MGZIggJw I fucking love that
Maybe they can after the backlash has now died down. They fired him because they where given two choices, angry fans that would stop seeing marvel films or angry parents who would stop supporting Disney as a whole! That's the way i interpreted it atleast. Because Disney's bigest market is families! And if the parents stop supporting then they'll force their children to stop supporting Disney too which would hurt Disney far more than angry fans would.
I guess you don't mind a child predator directing movies eh?
This half an hour video is Almost Star Lord- Solo movie...Well made
Y’all don’t realize, Peter Quill hit Thanos after Dr. Strange calculated there was only one scenario where the Avengers win. So really, Quill saved the universe when he hit Thanos. If he hadn’t, Thanos would have won, and the Avengers wouldn’t be able to undo the snap.
Either that, or Peter hits Thanos in every scenario.
@@JMalaby89 i think tha´ts happened in every scenario
@@JMalaby89 i thought of this, but I had played a game called Zero Escape: virtue last reward and zero time dilema... they explained the MANY MANY variations of what ifs as they tried to find the time line that had the answer to save the world. And there were so many variations that its possible that there are time lines or realities where peter could have kept his cool. Dr. Strange would have also seen events where he did, but yet they didn't work in the end of it. Hence, he allowed the mishap to happen and the snap to occur. Cause in chess, the end game is where a victor is determined even if it means sacrificing everything to achieve it.
I always thought that “one victory” was Strange trading the Time Stone for Tony’s life. I want to say that Strange knew the snap would happen anyway, but the key was how to reverse it, and keeping Tony alive potentially is the key
@@lazy7789 well he did saw Avengers: Endgame before everyone else, so he knows how it ends...
Quill also figured out the plan to catch Thanos in the first place. I feel like people keep forgetting that. I'm not saying it justifies him, I'm saying it makes him neutral.
I know right ?
Great video, but you forgot something very important; the Guardians' dialogues (including Quill) were all written by James Gunn in Infinity War.
And it shows, the way he acts in this movie is completely in tone with the way he acted in the Guardians movies, he is short-tempered, he always was (like almost getting his friends and himself killed over his walkman), it was that surprising that he ruined the whole plan when he learned about Gamora? if anything, Nebula is to blame, she KNOWS Quill, she KNEW how he was going to react, and she was the one confirming Gamora was dead knowing full well how Quill was going to react...heck, TONY knew how Quill was going to react, that is why he takes his helmet off and begs him to cool down and not "do it" (Tony does this because he knows he would have done the same if it was Pepper instead of Gamora).
And I agree that he is the biggest underdog in the MCU...reason why I hated that they made him half-celestial, and I think Gunn himself hated that too, so that is why by the end of the movie it all goes back to the status quo (or "worse", with EGO's death, Quill is literally 100% human, he most likely couldnt hold an infinity stone now).
Lastly, Infinity War has two of the best Quill moments in the entire MCU, the "what master do I serve? what am I suppoused to say, Jesus?", which was an inside joke because of how a devoted christian Chris Pratt is, and then when Tony calls him "Flash Gordon" to insult him, and Quill replies "that's a compliment"
That was a spot-on analysis. When I first saw Infinity War, I agreed with everyone that Peter Quill screwed it up, but the more I watched the movie, the more I realized he just couldn't handle the grief. You put that all into an excellent and entertaining 30 minute video. You definitely gained a sub!
a sub from a mega shark is everything i want and more
Man, amazes me how much love and effort went into the GOTG movies by Gunn. I knew I loved the movies, but I didn’t know I LOVED the movies. Also, great pace and editing throughout the video. Even if it is 30 mins, felt like 10 to me. Great video.
thanks man :)
Just finished this video... And didn't realize 30 minutes had passed.
This video is fantastic. I want to share to all my friends who talked smack about Peter in Infinity War.
I also grew up without a father and the movie as a 15 year old boy opened my eyes to the truth. My dad was never coming back to see me after he left when I was born. And I appreciated it deeply. And it was the perfect movie to watch with my uncle as the movie, especially Yondu's death, made me realize he was my true father. And that's why Guardians of the Galaxy 2
I noticed the subtle Hawkeye appreciation
Can't help but love on Clint. The glue that holds the avengers together
@@pdelacal The one time he isn't in a movie, The Avengers lose lmao
You are 100% dead on with your readings of fatherhood abandonment issues in GoTG vol 2. I did not have a relationship with my father growing up and Quill's story in that film hit me deep inside. GoTG 2 is one of the very few MCU movies or even films in general that got me to cry. I don't really know what Gunn's relationship with his own father is like, but based on Vol 2 I'm willing to bet it's not ideal, he just gets it in a way that hard to emulate if you haven't experienced it yourself and carry that emotional baggage with you.
It's a damn shame how Gunn's time at Marvel ended, they truly lost out on a great next level storyteller.
yes ive always wondered what his relationship to his dad was like, it was often like he had experienced it himself. x
@@Vexarax Perfectly balanced....as all things should be..
"What master do I serve? What am I supposed to say, Jesus?"
He really did get most of the best lines in this film. #RehireJamesGunn
soooooooooo good
That was evil in lot of ways beacuse god loves us we shouldn't be so hateful towards him Hollywood is demonic I like movie dot get me wrong I am not chirstan I am this man who doesn't like it when they poke fun at Jesus he went through most painful pain ever that none of us can ever experience he did it to save us from our sins and from hell did it fix the broken bound between man and God
@@braedonsrantsmore2482 I..... I don't think you understand the joke
@@braedonsrantsmore2482 I hope you're a Troll and not just terminally stupid.
@@citriatus7046 I am not joking I am being serious it's ture they make fun of god which isn't right I like Marvel and the advengers but that part in that movie was mean and not called for see they won't make fun of islam beacuse it's not the truth they dot fellow Jesus they fellow the devil that why they dot poke fun at them only Christians beacuse they believe in one ture god Jesus
Every time I hear someone say that Starlord is the guilty of Thanos victory, I always tell them, "of course he is guilty, guilty of being a character with a human reaction", because the only thing he loved was taken from him. There are four characters with those characteristics on Infinity War and all four are given the same choice, kill one for the good of the universe, StarLord, Thor, Scarlet Witch and Thanos.
He literally just had to wait 10 seconds. That ain't a human reaction when literally trillions of lives are on the line
@@vibez2806 A human reaction is an understandable one. Was Hus actions stupid. Yep. But it is totally inline with his established character. Quill is absolutely the type of guy to get tunnel vision in a moment of anger and forget what's going on around him.
The thing many people think, is that obviously he couldn't gave forgotten what's at stake. But I would argue that many people would do that in his shoes. Gamora was one of the very few good things in his screwed up life, her, and to a lesser extent the guardians are the last good thing he has.
I could easily imagine, a moment, were my Mom was killed by a man, everyone else is gone, the man was being held down in front of me. My family is the only thing that matter to me, my Mom most of all
This person, this piece of shit, took from we the last good thing I had left. The reason for me to care. In that moment, I'm sure I'd finally snap. My vision would turn red. I don't care about the consequences, I need to kill this man.
Why should I care? Everyone I love is dead, my reason for living, so I don't care about the consequences, about the potential hurt others might go through. I can absolutely see myself in Peters place, and refuse to hate on him, because I'm not a hypocrite.
Its hard to put yourself in other shoes, especially when you can't relate to there problems, but I can. I can absolutely see myself doing what Peter did, and unlike he is likely to be, I wouldn't feel bad.
I would care if half the universe died, because everyone I care about is already dead, so why should I care. Call it selfish, but I don't care.
I once said that if it was between my family, and 100,000,000 or so random people, I would choose my family overtime without remorse. But I also stated that if it was everyone else or then, I would chose everyone else.
Why? Its not because I value humanity more, I just wouldn't want them to live in world were we would have to survive in the wild, as no one can manage anything, meaning we would have to just survive. I'm not willing to put them through that.
So yeah, I would do what Peter did, I don't care if its selfish,I would do the exact same thing. I man care for people, try to be nice, understanding, but my love for my family outdoes my care for the entirety of humanity combined, millions of time over.
i wonder how many people called you "emo"
It’s kind of interesting how they avoided the Peters (Quill/Parker) acknowledging they shared a name. Thought they would do that when Quill had Parker in the headlock.
rettwoods coulda teamed up after that just like when Batman and Superman find out their moms are named Martha
I think Mantis made a joke about it.
Tony: GET YOUR HANDS OFF PETER
Peter Q:……..what?
Drax: How is he meant to get his hands off himself
Peter P: Wait you’re name’s Peter too?
Peter Q: Yeah my name’s Peter, is your name Peter
Dr.Strange: That’s literally what he just said
**it goes on like this for 15 minutes**
We need to get Chris Pratt to see this.
I would LOVE that
We need to get James Gunn to see this. It will cheer him up to see that he's still appreciated by true fans
James Gunn confirmed to direct Gaurdians 3. Thanks for taking a stand full fat, gonna get the epic trilogy after all.
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Spoiler for endgame filled counter argument:
If he HADN'T punched Thanos, the snap would have occurred either too early, or too late. Remember, the turning point in the beginning of endgame is that Scott lang escapes the quantum realm thanks to rodent ex machina five years later.
Without that 5 year gap, Iron man wouldn't have had time to build his own gauntlet, banner wouldn't have been able to tame his Hulk form, and likely more small differences that wouldn't have led to the most optimal outcome. After all if they HAD managed to get the gauntlet off thanos, none of the people on titan could have used it without dying to kill thanos, and it's not likely they'd be able to get the drop on Thanos to kill him, even if he was completely mantis-tranced. Strange may have been able to take the gauntlet elsewhere, but Thanos and his minions wouldn't have stopped.
Exactly! Also in endgame when Scarlet witch was giving it her all, Thanos wouldn’t stop even when he was about to be crushed into tiny fragments. This bastard’s determination to get the stones outways his enemies brainpower to try and take the gauntlet. He was so focused on getting the stones that in the end he fucked up actually having them in his gauntlet, letting iron man take the last snap. There is no way in hell they would’ve been able to get the gauntlet off of him without an entire army.
Good point, indeed.
Eh, highly debatable.
Like it or not he speaking straight facts
If Thanos hadn’t snapped exactly when he did, Scott wouldn’t have been quantum that moment, and no one would have seriously realized the possibility of time-stone-less time travel
*WELL IF IT ISN'T*
*S T A R P R I N C E*
@@welshieranger4697 thanks
I don't care what anybody says Star Lord is still one of my favorite Marvel heroes
What about groot
Same
Mine too bro
No: "Star Lord" is my favorite Marvel hero! When is going to get his due?
Save the galaxy twice, nobody cares.. screws up once... and you are the worse Peter.
yeah,he and his team saved a SINGLE galaxy twice,he then went on to be responsible,single handedly, for the deaths of 50%,potentially more, of ALL life in the universe, which has OVER 100 BILLION galaxies in it.
Well because of him 50 percent of the everyone everywhere are dead so.....
Humans have the collective memory of a goldfish.
Connor O'Neill
- "yeah,he and his team saved a SINGLE galaxy twice,he then went on to be responsible,single handedly, for the deaths of 50%,potentially more, of ALL life in the universe, which has OVER 100 BILLION galaxies in it."
too true
And everyone forgets/ignores Doctor Strange handing over the Time Stone he had.
One of the biggest problems I had with Endgame was how they handled Gamora. Now GOTG 1&2 meant nothing and she doesn’t even know Peter so sad 😭 I loves their build up. It was so natural.
I honestly love how they handled Star Lord's emotions in Vol 2 and Infinity War. His attacking Ego after the revelation of what he did to his mother felt so emotionally satisfying, and I connected with that. I feel like most people would react that way to finding out someone killed their mother. Its a human moment, one that is grounded but good. Yet its that same impulsive reaction to emotion that hurts him so much in Infinity War. And that is so true to real life as well. We all have strengths and weaknesses, but oftentimes it depends on the situation to determine which category our traits fall in to.
I'm with you all the way! James Gunn IS Guardians of the Galaxy. They should have never fired him!
solidarity!
@@FullFatVideos well, its a matter of image preservation, Disney is still widely known as a company for children after all, so the whole pedophilia thing is just not a good look, even if the company and Hollywood as a whole is full of it anyways
what people like the one who made this video fail to understand is that james gunn was fired because the progressive bent that people have put on social media which companies like disney adopt to gain favor and sales. they were forced to fire james because they were being held to their own standards to not fire him would mean that they would be hypocrites to everything they now stand for.
what it all boils down to is if one side is going to go through years of social media posting looking to ruin someone for out of context comments the other side will do the same.
that's what happened to james gunn. he is a victim of social justice and the effect it has on politics through social media.
so no disney isn't going to magically rehire james.
Haha!!! Annnnd now he's back woo!
So happy Marvel Studios and Disney made the move to bring him back!!
Favorite MCU superhero: Captain America
Favorite MCU character: Peter Quill
Chubbtacular Favorite hero: Thor
Favorite Character: Tie between the two peters
Brandon Sauls Most definitely
Favorite Hero: Thor
Favorite Character: Star-Lord
Favorite Hero I Looked Up To Since I was Younger: Spider-Man
Favorite Character I Hate to Love: Loki
Favorite Character I Love to Hate: lmao no one these characters are epic
favorite hero - dr strange
favorite character - rocket raccoon
Bro, Justin hammer
I too have gone through my life without a father figure. This movie actually makes me very emotional. Beginning to end.
Phenomenal editing, pacing and explanation. I love this character on a whole different level thanks to this video-essay. Talk about not knowing you needed something until you had it
thank you so much mate
Star lords whole team got clapped except for the trash panda
which is so sad. Especially since Rocket's arc in 2 was that he shouldn't push people away for fear of being alone. Now that he has embraced them, well they've all left him and he's alone.
@@fairystail1 exactly hopefully he can find a new family in the avengers
Rocket is one of my favourite characters!
he is a rabbit
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29:05 I always think of that guy and his family when when I see Pete's face drop like a stone when he's told, by Thor of Xandar's fall. Probably about as close a thing to a friend in the Nova Corp Quill has, AND as close as we get to personification of Xandar.
Thor's casual line and Peter's shattered look tells it all.
Damn good work, even on one of the most transient moments of the story in IW...
I really hope he and his family be ok ...
I want starlord to go to earth and realize they’ve made starwars prequels and sequels
Lmao yessss
If he ever saw the terrible sequels, he would’ve left immediately
hell be more pissed at the sequels then the prequles i feel like he will like 1-3
He’d love the prequels
Well.
“Your life has already been defined as with being without him” that one hits home really hard :,) Love these videos and just how deep you can examine movies nowadays.
30 minute full fat video? Guess I'm skipping my morning class.
big mistake
You can watch this anytime, no need to skip class.
A 30 Minute detailed video based on one of the funniest characters of the MCU? Nice! :D
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I think one of the best defenses I've seen of Peter Q. is that not only did he just lose the love of his life (after a life of losing everyone he grows attached to) but that the one who killed her said he "had to" which is basically the same thing Ego said about killing Peter's mother.
More MCU essays please!
cooking up more as we speak sir!
Full Fat Videos Great to know. I have an idea of one you should do after seeing Endgame: how the Russo brothers handled Captain Marvel, making her relatable to audiences (assuming that’s what happens in the course of the story).
Full Fat Videos I also suggest a,”how the MCU fixed Spiderman,” or “how the MCU fixed Daredevil.”
Jabari Jefferson he’ll have to recycle the same script because the mcu use the same formula
@@FullFatVideos Yeah saw this and been going through your backlog. All I can say is make more full fat videos like this, like full beefy essays not short impressions or any of that fluff.
My favorite Guardian. Actually, one of my favorite characters in the MCU.
This video completely describes why Peter Quill is one of my favorite characters in the MCU. His positive and upbeat optimism is breathtaking. Also, the line about dealing with his shitty childhood causing him to jump head first into whimsy hit home with me. More than anything, after watching a few of your videos tonight, I've subscribed and not just because you produce fantastic videos but because there is a warmth and kindness that radiates from you guys!
Finally someone who isn't stomping on this character. Quill has proven himself to be one of the most relatable characters in the MCU. After seeing his reaction in Volume 2. learning how his mother got sick, I wasn't surprised how he reacted and I honestly felt with him. I myself grew up without my father who left my younger than Quil was, and I honestly might have loved to reunite with him and catch up on the things I never had as a kid. I was the only child and was often isolated from the others. Sometimes I would try to be funny and just end up awkward, much like how Quill is most of the time. But i often learn from my mistakes, even if it means failing from them again and again. Honestly, it was Tony's fault for having separated the Avengers before Infinity War, and never even called Steve when the attack happen, he let his ego in the way. When learning Gamor died, he completely lost his shit because he was tired of people around him who he has cared for keep slipping away from his fingers. I probably will 100% react the same way, I let my anger get the best of me sometimes. But like Peter, I want to show people the best version of myself, and that is why I still love Star-Lord. Comment what you guys think.
Same man
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Stunned to read this, thank you x
Personal I'm surprised it's only 84k
@@jacob8565 Hopefully we can keep pushing! Higher, further, faster baby!
Excellent video man.
Thanks so much man, means a lot x
Wow that's strange seeing Mark here
Full fat >>>
Hi im totally not mark
Im now going to tell you why Burter has the best character arc in all of dragonball
Mark Senpai!!!
Ok u teased it long enough ... Now give us the Captain America video ... Pretty Please
it's coming sooner than you might think... :)
Yaaaay
@@FullFatVideos FUCK YES
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Please don't gloss over his flaws like other videos about him, Steve Rogers the Living Legend is also a lying hypocritical battle hungry anti-authority stick in the mud. Don't get me wrong I like the guy, but he's just as fucked up as everybody else.
Li-Li Mandragon lol Cap isn’t a hypocrite and he isn’t anti-authority either. He just believes legality is not a guide for morality. He knows this and won’t let the law stop him from doing what’s right.
Yo your analysis of how Peter's father just "shows up as if his absence wouldn't be of consequence" hit me square in the chest. This is exactly how my dad showed up when I was 10 years old.. glad to hear that I'm not the only one!
I mean Originally I believed he was to blame. However, Dr Strange said there was only one universe where they were successful. Meaning that if StarLord hasn’t done that they would have lost later down the line
PC Smithy Which I guess means he actually saved everyone.
That's bs tho
Is it?
imho…what i liked about the psychology of quill costing them the fight…is that earlier while they were planning…he dropped this line "…Don’t forget, I’m half human. So that 50% of me that’s stupid, that’s 100% you." …yet it was his humanity that was over came by emotion and rage that blinded the task at hand and made a "stupid" move (THE 50 PERCENT OF HIS HUMANITY ESSENTIALLY LEAD TO DECIMATING 50 PERCENT OF THE UNIVERSE LIFE FORMS)…another great display from the writers by getting the audience to invest into these characters…this relates to our lives when making a "stupid" decision during pressure situations…so we fully understand and feel for this scene
I've really been enjoying your MCU character analyses. In this, you've articulated things I only subconsciously felt/observed about Quill, and I really appreciate it! Would love to see you cover more of the characters. Great work!
more coming up good sir!
This video is fucking brilliant. Thanks for the tears.
thank you dude!
EVERYTIME SOMEONE ASKS ME WHY STAR LORD ISMY FAVOURITE I JUST OPEN THIS VIDEO
This video was put together brilliantly please do a video on doctor strange
We haven't seen much Doctor Strange yet
Everyone's mad at him but he's the whole reason we got endgame.
Nope.Thor also kinda caused endgame as well...
@@davidmethu6806 At least Peter went for the head
Peter Quill is by far the most relatable character in the MCU for me personally.
As soon as he landed after they trapped Thanos, i KNEW he was going to lose his shit, because I FELT THAT WAY TOO.
Once Peter got that info, it was going to be all over, he was going to see red. The writing was SPOT THE FUCK ON.
It's crazy that Chris Pratt use to be just the Parks and Recs guy, now he is easily one of the most talented members of the MCU and delivered some of the best lines in the Infinity Saga.
I couldn’t believe the backlash against Quill after Infinity War with everyone complaining about his “failure “. I’m not in anyway a violent person but a few years ago after a guy blew through a stop sign and almost struck my daughter in a crosswalk and then stopped his car to yell at her I attacked him despite her pleading with me not to. I have a Ph.D in chemistry and yet in the heat of an anger fueled rage was about to do something that could ruin my life. If the guy hadn’t gotten back into his car and fled I probably would have. I’m in no way proud of my reaction. My daughter was terrified seeing me out of control. My point is never judge someone unless you’ve ever been in a similar circumstance.
Matthew Conrad This. THIS. TTTHHHHIIISSSS!!!!!!
THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID WHEN HE LOST CONTROL!!!!
I'm glad to know that everything ended up okay and Im sorry your daughter went through that.
The special power of Peter Quill is his own and pure humanity.
I hope every character in the MCU gets a character analysis video!
even all the ants from antman?
@@tazooui5462 oh yeah! 😁
even all the civillians?@@IsaacWhittakerDakin
Tazooui Especially Ant-thony and Ant-onio
I think the whole “that’s why Steve Rogers needed to be there” is exactly what the movie was about on the Avengers side.
Warrior Studios i don’t understand what he means but that though? Like wtf could cap have done? Could you explain please i’m fucking lost on his importance
@@game-enjoyer13 He can lead better. Thats his role after all the leader.
He could have united the avengers. Sure, they still would have lots but they might have had a chance
I love swinging by for your videos...
And can we please forget about the skateboard! I'm sorry!
You're forgiven, Far From Home looks rad
@@FullFatVideos Yeah, I mean... yeah. Definitely. My best work. Uh... bye!
@@spookiebobo Challenge accepted.
*Please be good. Please, please, please.*
@Lemon Lemon Neeerrd! I knew it would be said at some point. It doesn't work with TH-cam's naming structure.
Just imagine it's there.
And stay golden.
"Everyone's a critic" is playing through my mind. lol
@Lemon Lemon You aren't... mad... are you? I'm a little swamped with villains and the whole *snap* thing.
Maybe work out a partnership?
*mad scientist joke, hope that's clear*
And I should've said "you forgot the hyphen" that would've been... so cool.
To be clear, there's no animosity or anything on my end. Want to be crystal about that. Just making jokes. I don't want to needlessly offend anyone. That's a dick move. (Because tone is hard to convey)
why do ninjas cut onions whenever yondu says' but im damn lucky you're my boy'
LOL
#RehireJamesGunn
#LetHimFinishTheTrilogy
#TheseAreHisBabies
Agreed
#NoGunnNoMon
#ScrewDisney
#ScrewBobIger
@@themadtitan7603 You know if you have the infinity gauntlet you could just make more resources for people instead of killing half of the population right?
josh treola people would just start to consume more and inevitably lead to a shortage of resources again. People are greedy. One person will always choose to take more than they need. That’s why there’s a 1% in real life. Imo
This is an amazing video. Peter Quill is an amazing and well written character, definitely one of the best in the MCU. His and Gamora's relationship is the MCUs best (in my opinion), and the Guardians as a team feel much more like a caring yet realistically mildly disnfuntional family than any other. GOTG 1 and GOTG 2 were both amazing masterpieces. James Gunn knows what he's doing.
Great video. Yeah, absolutely spot on view on Peter Quill. I'd really love your take on Rocket.
thank you ive got a few more in the pipeline :)
RIP oreo the raccoon
"Letting Ego get in the way."
See what you did there ;) xD
Anyone else notice every movie with the guardians of the galaxy, one of them always crashes into villain with a ship.
I think the problem with Peter's failure in Infinity War is that he isn't redeemed or explicitly qualified in Endgame. If Strange just came out and said that the only version of the future that would work is a direct result of Peter effing up, then I would be satisfied. This is basically implied, of course, but an explicit reference to clear him would have gone a long way for audiences, I think.
I can understand why the people who were mad at him in Infinity War complained about how unfairly he was treated in Endgame.
He's treated like a bumbling, incompetent fool who gets punched by War Machine, kicked in the balls by 2014 Gamora and replaced as the leader of the Guardians by Thor.