@Full Fat Videos I read this comment before watching the video, and thought every 4 minutes or so, "oh, so THIS is what he predicted." I'm blown away by your analysis. Here's a sub
And thus, he validated every sentence of his analysis of these movies. Clearly he can read between the lines! Like, you really understood the story and the characters. Bravo.
When Tony tells Steve as he limps away from their fight at the end of Civil War that the shield doesn't belong to him, Steve doesn't drop it when Tony says he doesn't deserve it-he drops it when Tony pointedly shouts that his father made that shield. That's the moment the whole movie comes together. That's what "earning it" looks like.
It's crazy that Cap has gone from what most people would call one of the most boring Marvel characters to being one of the most interesting, I'm glad the MCU has been able to make his arc so satisfying so far.
Dang, in infinity war, Tony was caught in a lot of situations where a better strategy would have helped, and Steve was tasked with removing the mind stone from Vision who Tony helped program. I didn't even notice
Omar Miller well in a way Tony’s father made cap and cap was basically the reason why tony became who he was without them nothing would have happened they are the original hero’s
Honestly I think that deleted scene really should’ve been in the movie. Maybe it’s not necessary, but it added a lot to the character for me, and it was a well-constructed sequence.
@@FullFatVideos my wife looked at me sideways after I said "oh that's my BOY" as he stepped forward. My only defense was "come on LOOK AT HIM" and she conceded.
No matter how many times I see it, that scene always makes me spontaneously cheer. The Steve versus Thanos scene always makes me tear up because of the clash of the two strongest wills in the MCU.
Dude. This is probably the best Marvel video essay I’ve ever seen. There are usually so many speculations and jumps that I don’t agree with in these, but you nailed it. I’d love to see you interview the Russo’s after everything.
This might seem like an odd choice, but I always liked that last scene in Age of Ultron as an ending for the characters. Tony finally retires, while Cap embraces his new home, and prepares to coach a new team of Avengers recruits. For Cap in particular, I love the idea that his role in the modern day could be passing on experience and wisdom to up and coming heroes. His scene with Wanda at the beginning of Civil War speaks to how valuable he could be as a mentor. Of course, Ultron wasn't truly the end to either of their stories at the time, but I could see their futures looking something like that once Thanos is dealt with.
*SPOILER BELOW* I'm blown away by how well you managed to break down and come to the conclusion you did regarding steve and tony at the end of endgame, and how it was completely accurate. Bravo.
Yeah, more than any other character in the MCU, Steve Rogers deserves a happy ending. After everything Steve gave up, selflessly, he deserves a happy ending and that moment when he can put his shield down and smile at a job well done. Many characters have things taken from them, but only Steve gave everything willingly
And that’s why I think he will die in endgame. The character who has lost the most and deserve the happiest ending is always the most tragic character when they don’t get said ending.
Benjamin Howard yeah, SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVENT WATCHED ENDGAME YET! However, we still had someone who willingly lost everything. The only difference being that he suffered even more of a loss at the end. Steve has lost the chance to be with the love of his life and most of the life he would have led. Tony sacrificed a future with his family and lost everything he wished for in order to protect it. I know that I am very biased here, but seeing tony with all the stones made me go breathless for longer than I thought. Because as “obvious“ as it was, in that moment the realization hit me. Tony Stark, now father and loving husband, will die saving not only those he loves but everyone else as well. Because HE was the earths best defender. When push came to shove, just like Steve, tony did not hesitate. And if that is not damn admirable in a sad way, I don’t know what else is
Age of Ultron: Tony- "We'll lose" Steve-"Then we'll do that together too" Endgame: Tony-"We said we'd lose but you said we'd do that together" *I am NOT emotionally prepared for this movie*
I'm surprised that Natasha wasn't brought up that much when talking about Cap and the Russos journey. Its a partnership that's been building in every film they've headed so far. Shes become a fast ally to Steve and facilitated his arc in a very personal way. They've become almost interwoven with each other, to the point where the only other two characters that have shared more screen time together are Tony and Pepper. She is much closer to Steve than Tony, equal with even Sam and Bucky.
I don't think he lied about Tony's parents though. I interpreted it as "I didn't know Bucky killed them but yeah I knew HYDRA killed your parents." Am I alone here?
I agree with you with honest enthusiasm. There would have been no way that Steve knew Bucky was the assassin as Steve didn't know Bucky was the Winter Soldier neither did Steve know that there were other Super-Soldiers. Nuff Said.
I'm kinda surprised Tony didn't find out sooner, given the fact that he bugged and copied sheilds whole database, presumably even the Hydra stuff back in the first avengers movie
I agree. All though there is room for doubt. When Zemo got to Bucky he asked for what happened on the day Howard Stark died. When Cap found him he forced him to tell him what Zemo asked. So we could say that from that moment he knew
I always got the impression he was saying he basically never confirmed it because he strongly suspected and was almost certain he would not like what he found. That sort of plausible deniability is grey area that is certainly not what Cap is supposed to embody. Hence the betrayal.
I mostly agree with this interpretation, but I think the betrayal comes more from the fact that Steve knew Hydra killed Tony's parents since Winter Soldier but didn't tell Tony about it after so long. Had Zemo never come, Steve might've kept it secret until his death. If Steve had told Tony about it after finding out, Civil War might've been prevented.
I think I can relate to Captain America far too much. Your essay breakdown was like a reflection into both the character and myself. It's weird. And awe-inspiring. Amazing job. "After spending so much time thinking he's going to die... the audience gets to see him smile properly again." This was EXACTLY was I was feeling when I started watching Endgame, and when it ended. I was SO satisfied... to see him smile, because it was the epitome of hope. That symbolic end to the character arc was essential.
Cap is definitely up there as one of my favorites, though I think I am a bit biased since we were both army. One of the most telling things about him in almost every depiction is the sheer damn reverence and respect he's showed for his conviction and morality. It's a repeated occurrence that if it's Cap's way, it's the right way. Even though they're all different people, on some level every Avenger wishes they were a bit more like Steve. The great irony is that while everyone looks at him as if he always knows the path, just like many real veterans are, he's probably more lost and adrift than they are. It's only his will and sense of duty that keep him on his feet. Nice video series, good work.
@surfitlive The person above never said that lying was a bad thing, just that it was a part of his character from the start and makes sense throughout the movies. Also, you use the terms soyboy snowflaker trigger puffs unironically?
@surfitlive It is for personal gain. Bucky calls him out on it, too. Steve has a huge chip on his shoulder. He wants to be part of something meaningful, to do something meaningful, because he was overlooked all his life. That's also what the flashback scene in Civil War is about. It doesn't mean he isn't morally upstanding, but he is still fueled by his own pig-headedness and desire to live up to his own ideal of who he should be above everything else.
Welp, now I feel like Steve's gonna' die in Endgame. I mean if they pull his arc off without doing that, the Russo's really will be one of the best filmmakers of all time.
@@jordansweet8054 right? I feel like they still kind of stand in the shadow of Christopher Nolan in the public conversation, but they don't deserve to...
@@Phelie315 I agree.Nolan is great and deserves most of the praise he gets but the conversation should be wider than it is.The Russos,Gunn,Bird and Rami,at least in some respects have contributed as much as him and did some things better in my opinion.
What I expect is Tony and Steve dying after reconciled their differences, alongside Thor, who lives with a duty to carry on their legacy, as all three fight Thanos, who took the people closest to them. But despite being in a fight for their lives, the two heroes die in peace, having found what they needed in each other. The last thing they see is Thor finally defeating Thanos, and they give one last smile as their greatest foe bites the dust.
I'm an American but I'd like to think the Stars and Stripes represents hope to people around the world... I realize our politicians muck things up but our people are usually more than willing to help out people who need it....
This was a superb video essay. I'm as nervous for Cap/Steve as I would be a real person going to fight in a real war. It's strange, i don't have this apprehension for any of the others, and I blame Marvel's excellent storytelling and character arc for him.
Love the essays! I just don't get why people think sending Steve back to 1945 would be a peaceful ending for him. What, do they expect him to just kick back and relax knowing what he does about the 20th century? Korea, the Cold War, Vietnam, Hydra?
Yeah, because he was living in the 21st century and knew that the 20th century horrors would eventually end and that he and a bunch of other swell folk will be there to protect from the 21st century horrors. Its really a non issue.
Yeah, and also if he moves something it might have a lot of unintended consequences, like, for example, if he disintegrated Hydra, secretly through Peggy Carter, we dont know if Shield would've still been around to act as an anchor for the Avengers when they first formed, so there would be no one to defeat thanos when it comes to it
You should talk about "the snap" itself sometime and how it affected all the Avengers. there's a lot of talk *at* "the snap" but not a lot *about* "the snap". The reason why I think the snap is such a brilliant plot device is because it's so insular. Thanos wasn't looking to establish a tyranny which always turns into "well how long is the tyranny going to last? How will he maintain control?". Everything he wanted to do was one singular moment that changed everything forever. It was either going to happen, or it didn't. There was no question about how long he'd do it, or what the effects would be. He did it, and we knew what the effects were.
I've watched a few of your video essays now and jeez i just now notice 30-40 minutes goes in a flash, you my friend have most absolutely earned this like and sub.
Full Fat Videos when Cap drops his shield, saying to Bucky "I won’t fight you. You are my friend" was the moment I completely fell in love with this character. It was like I was watching episode 6 of Star Wars, where Luke throws his lightsaber, refusing to kill his father even in the face of death.
Eh. I would disagree. Luke's journey was becoming a hero and learning what it was he stood for. Captain America has always stood for something and always wanted to save others. If I was going to compare him to another character in fiction, as cheesy as it sounds, it would probably be the character All Might from My Hero Academia. A man born with no power, with no obligation to help others, but determined to do so.
Fangsabre well you can clearly see similarities between Luke/Steve and Bucky/Vader I didn’t say that Cap is 100% similar to Luke, but their willingness to sacrifice themselves for the people they love despite all circumstances is unquestionable
Amazing, I may have seen this much after Endgame, but this gave me a whole new outlook on the character, Steve Rogers and his arc. You did an amazing outlook on this, that could be a great reason why I loved the direction the Russo Brothers made with this story, loved this, awesome work. :)
Holy shit! You literally described my life when you started talking about Cap not moving forward in life. I got hit with a wave of "That's why I like him so much!" This was so helpful. I needed this video as a person. Just you speaking about moving on hit me hard. Thank you!
Before this video ends, I'm already shouting "YES! YES". (Metaphorically. My neighbours need their sleep.) This right here is why Steve is my favourite MCU character. He's stuck, and doesn't know what to do for his future.
I just love how these videos make me notice the smallest and yet most important details of the MCU that I hadn't really thought about and make me love the movies and the characters even more because of them.
@@lurkintomgaming397 He didn't, he knew WS was key Political assassin for 70 years & Starks were assasinated same way so anyone with brain will make the connection, but there's no way to say it was Bucky/WS who actually killed them or other agents 🙈 neither did Movies show he had confirmation
Cap can put two and two together, he just didn't want to face it. He basically put his fingers in his ears going lalalalala. But, he deep down he knew what the truth was.
@@litovietbui Same way Tony knew Bucky was mind controlled Assasin for 70 years but still tried to kill Bucky for what Hydra did to him, while he was'nt even WS mode then. He basically put his fingers in his ears going lalalalala. But, he deep down he knew what the truth was.
Abhishek Suratkar well actually, Zola showed Cap a newspaper explaining this in TWS. Cap knew for 2 years and refused to tell Tony. THAT’S putting your fingers in your ears and going lalalalalalalalala. Tony, on the other hand, was still not quite over his parents’ early deaths, as shown in the beginning with him using what is now Quentin Beck’s BARF technology. Considering he’d already been trying to bring the Captain in over trying to defend an already mass murderer (the Winter Soldier), and then got told it was a fraud and had to go off and help Cap, that’s already a lot on the brain. “Oh, I just fought you bitterly already but now I’m being told a lot of new shit that changes everything so now I have to fight with you against some soldiers, I think?” Is a shit ton of information to be trying to comprehend over his already emotional state, including the loss of his girlfriend because he wanted to save the world, the deaths of his parents, etc. THEN finally you add into the mix that, through Tony’s eyes, not only is Cap still trying to protect a mass murderer, but that this same mass murderer is the one that killed your parents brutally, which you never quite got over fully in the first place, to steal the serum that made the super soldiers they would have been fighting, and that on top of all of this one of your best friends, who you’ve just swallowed your pride to help out, knew about this for 2 full years and never even thought to tell you. That’s way too much information to process, regardless of intelligence, because sentient creatures are emotional and too many emotions strips rationality away. Cap saying that Bucky didn’t have any control isn’t gonna overthrow the fact that it was still the guy that did it in Tony’s mind, that Cap tried to hide this from him for selfish reasons, and that Cap, to Tony, could just be lying to try and save his friend, which he’s done already. You see? Too much information and also stuff that Tony wouldn’t and definitely shouldn’t have taken as fact without proof. NOT sticking your fingers in your ears and going lalalalalalalalalalalala.
I did not wake up today expecting that Full Fat Videos was going to release his Captain America analysis and putting the greatest HBO miniseries (sorry Generation Kill) into it.
@@dalorasinum386 Chris Evans is done for now. For one, he wants to move on to new things, f.e. directing. For another they need to make space for some new faces like Captain Marvel.
@@bluechick7113 1. Chris Evan's clarified those comments. 2. RDJ contract ended with Avengers: AOU and how many movies was he in after that. 3. I'll see for myself if it's true on 26 April.
@@bluechick7113 Evans will surely take a break, doesn't mean he is done with MCU, RDJ is different he is 56-57, + takes home more $$$ than rest of cast combined & is already most overused character in MCU makes sense from all 3 way to end his arc right here which would be best possible place to do so
I just can't put into words how much I've enjoyed and appreciated these MCU character and movie essays. I remember while watching Winter Soldier for the first time how much deeper and important it felt--that it was not only telling a story, but weaving statement and narrative in satisfying balance. And the MCU has been going up in quality ever since! THANK YOU for all the feels and depth in this, and for articulating so much of what I hadn't been able to put into words before (Cap is my fave--Chris Evans' Cap is
No, I’m not sobbing loudly in my student union. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Thanks for so lovingly creating two parts to such an amazing essay. You are an inspiration to me. ✊🏻🇺🇸
This video made me cry, but in a nice cathartic way. These films have been, and will continue to be, so important to me for nearly all the reasons you have listed. So thank you :)
Great video man. But one little pick up. The 'Glasgow scene' is in Edinburgh. There's a wee bit of rivalry between the cities but I do have to give Edinburgh this one.
Wow...Recently started watching the videos while doing by designing work in my background. Let me tell you, everything you said at the end of the video captured my soul and heart perfectly. Thank You. I too grew with MCU just as you described. Awesome...Great JOB. Can't wait to see more amazing stuff...!:)
Great content guys. I'm in my 40s and never imagined this cultural phenomenon could occur. Captain America has been a real surprise to me, with Mcfeely, Markus and the Russo's knocking out the park. Civil War touched on Capatilism v Socialism in many respects. I'm looking forward to Avengers : Endgame (...Captain America 5) :)
In Civil War (the characters who signed the Sokovia Accords) continuously save the planet from destruction, the Avengers end up being the enforcers of the establishment (UN), with their sickeningly rich leader (Tony) and alarming sense of patriotism. That's why seeing Steve (the most patriotic looking superhero), rebels against the Accords (bringing down Shield/Hydra in the previous film) due to these establishments not aligning with his beliefs. He's a rebel, a Hero, looking out for the little guy/gal. Thats just my take on it. Lots of people have covered it more indepth than me.
Craig Fleming so you’re saying that the members of Iron Man’s team are socialists due to their belief that the government should take more responsibility in ensuring the security of ordinary people? And you’re saying that Captain America’s team are capitalists because they want the Avengers to remain as a “private enterprise” free of oversight and direct responsibility to the people, enabling them to act with more independence? ... when I think of socialists, billionaire playboys don’t really come to mind.
Are you kidding me? That was incredible! Not only did you accurately guess the arch in which caps story will end, but you perfectly described the way that arch will manifest itself in the film. I have never seen anyone do anything like this before! Im a Christian man and I'll tell you the way you are able to analyze and understand storytelling and then display it to your audience is a gift from God! Really impressive stuff.
Brilliant! Brilliant job. I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who made these observations while watching this movie. Brilliant job. I can't wait to see what Cap's Endgame will be, come hell or highwater. And i hope he smiles again should he survive. Oh Captain my Captain! 💘
I really appreciate your deep dive into Captain America and the insights you provided into his character. I hope you do a video after you've watched Endgame. Captain America has been my favourite from the start, because he was good man from the get go that got a chance to make a difference. Loved the journey he has been on from The First Avenger to Endgame. Thank you for the two essays.
Hey man, just had to say, I've watched all of your videos about the MCU Big three (Iron Man, Captain America and Thor), and I'm glad that I did. They really allowed me to see so much more and broadened my perspective for the better. Thanks! :)
You're overthinking Steve's motives. He's not embracing a "dark side" because he's nostalgic, but he's holding true to the simple principle he expressed in The First Avenger: he doesn't like bullies. Hydra was the institutional bully par excellence and Bucky was its victim. Even when he did awful things, Bucky was exploited and manipulated. Steve's real mission is to oppose bullies with principled strength. Tony's desire for revenge was also the result of Hydra's manipulation-- in a sense his lust for vengeance furthered Hydra's lust for power by undermining the Avengers and Steve was bound to fight him, not just to save Bucky but to save Tony from the destructive power of his own anger.
I gotta agree with you here. Cap doesn't like bullies, but Age of Ultron deepened his arc. Great job on your analysis btw (but then again, I'm biased, I thought something similar)
This is so beautiful! YOu did such a great job on this and the first part of Cap!! I love Captain America and you explained his whole story soooooooo in depth! I'm so glad I found this and the first video. I think you're spot on on him, and I also thought of maybe he could end up back in the past. I know it will end awesomely!!!
3:40 You know, I've been wondering whether if there is time travel involved whether it wasn't Strange or whoever who dragged Red Skull to Vormir. That comment of seeing the future would be a nicely fitting retcon.
Amen! I’ve been in Edinburgh, on the High Street (where the fight begins), AND in the train station - where Cap steps out of the shadows. Yay, Edinburgh!
The Grandfather Paradox would cancel out Steve going back, as then he wouldn’t exist in the modern day. Then that would change many different things about how the modern day plays ouf
it really depends on how they would implement time travel. They could very realistically do a multi verse theory representation of it where the simple act of him going back in time creates a new pocket universe where he is in the 40's living life as he would have.
It'll be like "oh look at this great character that we've been developing for over 10 years. We're gonna act like he didn't exist all this time and all the actions that he has done in the MCU will be erased as well". That will make watching all the previous movies pointless. This the same thing X men days of future past did and it ruined the X men franchise for me
But is not Cap’s defense of-and fight for-the unrelenting redemption of Bucky even more telling of the altruistic and (actually) unbiased nature of his heart? I mean yes, they are old friends, and in the short and limited story of direct justice that would be Tony’s murder of Bucky, he seems wrong. However, ultimately Steve was right. Bucky’s redemption means so much more to the characters and the universe than him receiving Tony’s “justice” ever would. He wasn’t wrong, he wasn’t blinded by friendship or love of the past. He was right! He truly believed that there was still good in someone so terribly corrupted, and he found it. His heart is for only good, and in many situations, the societal view of what is right is very limited. He saw the bigger picture and he stuck to what he believed.
wildwolf Yes But you forget that Cap has hesitated when Crossbones even mentioned Buck. This highlights that he is biased if at least slightly. Nothing wrong with that. Makes him human
But if he hadn't lied Tony then he might have been able to reveal this bombshell in a less traumatic way that wasn't in a position to cause such an immediate purely emotional response from Tony
I really hope they don't just do that time travel fixes everything bullshit. What I think might be more interesting is Thanos or circumstances give Cap a chance to go back and live the life he never had but decides to destroy the stone/gauntlet so that he can save the world. Realizing that it is finally time to move on just like Tony must learn something similar.
Full Fat Videos thanks for the explanation. Once again your analysis was engaging and on point. I can’t wait to see the content that Endgame produces for this channel.
it's amazing to watch your video after having seen End Game. I didn't watch it before because i didnt want to have any theory about the movie and im in awe
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Congratulations, you’re a prophet.
I'm a survivor
@@FullFatVideos My God, you mad fucking genius, you.
@@FullFatVideos I'm really interested in hearing what you thought of endgame, especially the conclusion of Cap's arc, given what you've said so far
@Full Fat Videos I read this comment before watching the video, and thought every 4 minutes or so, "oh, so THIS is what he predicted." I'm blown away by your analysis. Here's a sub
Literally almost word for word predicted
SPOILERS AHEAD
"It probably won't happen specifically as I just described it"
And then it happens Just as specifically as he described it.
I would like your comment but it’s at 666 so just know that I have you a spiritual like
Yeah lucky I watched before
This man, really just guessed the entirety of avengers endgame.
Then he goes “It probably won’t happen as specifically as I just mentioned it.” 🤣🤣🤣
Damn that’s a madness
Its because hes too darn good at analyzing characters
I always wish to be this good at analysing characters lol
"It probably won't happen as specifically as I described it..."
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Turned out almost exactly like that XD
Right? I was like sack of garbage called it.
Only called him a sack of garbage because I'm jealous he predicted it
And thus, he validated every sentence of his analysis of these movies. Clearly he can read between the lines! Like, you really understood the story and the characters. Bravo.
didnt you get it bang on ?!
@@nahmonilldan If you guys have any cookies, go ahead and give them all to my man Full Fat Videos.
Yeah he even predicted that 2 of them were gonna die 💀💀💀
When Tony tells Steve as he limps away from their fight at the end of Civil War that the shield doesn't belong to him, Steve doesn't drop it when Tony says he doesn't deserve it-he drops it when Tony pointedly shouts that his father made that shield. That's the moment the whole movie comes together. That's what "earning it" looks like.
internisus Howard is such a consistent through line for both of their arcs and the MCU as a whole, it’s fantastically done
It's crazy that Cap has gone from what most people would call one of the most boring Marvel characters to being one of the most interesting, I'm glad the MCU has been able to make his arc so satisfying so far.
Most people are casuals and follow trends like sheep like sheep
Thor as well
It's even crazier that he's become a better cinematic Superman than Superman is.
@@ShadowSonic2 I hate to say it but 100% true. Cap is the man.
He really has been the heart of the MCU. I got marvel fatigue years ago but I keep going back to follow his story.
Cap doesn't have an Endgame, he can do this all day
Hell yeah!
@@kennethhoang1458 anyday.
Apparently not my man...apparently not
Nice callback
hes going to quit
Dang, in infinity war, Tony was caught in a lot of situations where a better strategy would have helped, and Steve was tasked with removing the mind stone from Vision who Tony helped program. I didn't even notice
Wow, they really are each other's missing half
@@Ozzy_08x they're soul mates
Omar Miller well in a way Tony’s father made cap and cap was basically the reason why tony became who he was without them nothing would have happened they are the original hero’s
@@at_hangtime7210 Didn't even notice
Yeah but cap has people around him who can remove the stone. Stark gets Strange and star-lord who have both shown they can be tactical.
“It probably won’t happen as specifically as I just described it”
*happens just as specifically as described*
Andrew Kaler and THATS why Caps now worthy ✌🏽
I am honestly really glad you were right. Shows just how well you knew his character. Cap deserves his reward.
The deleted scenes from Avengers also helps in showing how isolated and lonely Steve is. Depression is the correct word.
It's not just loneliness, he was pretty much suicidal in his behavior in TWS.
i didnt know this
Honestly I think that deleted scene really should’ve been in the movie. Maybe it’s not necessary, but it added a lot to the character for me, and it was a well-constructed sequence.
“It seems to run on some form of electricity”
-Best line
"Well, you're not wrong."
You see that red lever?
Also right before they go for the final battle on the jet that they are about to take “just don’t son”
Seriously is a brilliant line. Most movies would miss that opportunity to highlight just how old Cap is.
"And when he finally steps out of the shadows..."
Lets all admit, we got butterflies.
S31Syntax my friends and I went full frat boy on that scene at the midnight showing
@@FullFatVideos my wife looked at me sideways after I said "oh that's my BOY" as he stepped forward. My only defense was "come on LOOK AT HIM" and she conceded.
No matter how many times I see it, that scene always makes me spontaneously cheer. The Steve versus Thanos scene always makes me tear up because of the clash of the two strongest wills in the MCU.
S31Syntax EVERYONE in my theater was cheering like Hell
Spoilers for Endgame:
Man, you nailed that ending. I could not have predicted it
Timestamp?
I appreciate you guys staying that this is a spoiler, it doesn't matter for me but I'm sure it does for some viewers
Zelda 1 is better no 🧢
@@Jeff-mu5xd I like Zelda II more, the combat is better
@@HoneyMike tru but I love the dungeons in the oh game a little more
"I lived a life... My only regret is that you didn't get to live yours."
Quantum Realm: *allow me to introduce myself*
You are too good at youtube
coming from the king of TH-cam commentary?! MCU collab video when
That’s correct
They gotta nerf Full Fat in the next balance patch
Falcon: What makes you happy?
Captain America: I don't know
Too relatable
and still painful
Peggy did.
It was Peggy. Always was Peggy
My guidance counselor in school: What do you want out of life?
Me: Idk, nothing. What does life want out of me?
John Darcangelo
Oh em gee dude sooooo deep
******sarcasm*********
“Captain America is experiencing depression.” This line gave me flashbacks of all he’s been through and now I’m weeping. Thank you for this video. 💔
It baffles me that this was uploaded before Endgame, this was on point. Great vid!
I'm watching it in 2020 and I'm amazed how correctly you predicted Cap's arc in the Endgame. I have just one word in my mind... bravo!
Dude. This is probably the best Marvel video essay I’ve ever seen. There are usually so many speculations and jumps that I don’t agree with in these, but you nailed it. I’d love to see you interview the Russo’s after everything.
He got em right tho
Captain America will always be one of my favourite Avengers
If Steve says "I can do this all day" and thanos kills him my theater will see a 25 year old man cry
I think the entire theatre will be too busy crying themselves to notice you cry xD
MARVEL WOULDN'T DO THAT TO US
NO
@@callysto_ii lol ... but tbh i will cry like heck and be the loudest
If he doesn't say: 'Avengers Assemble'
I will never watch another Marvel movie.
Also he better pick up the Hammer.
@@Steven_Edwards That would rock.In Russos we trust.
This might seem like an odd choice, but I always liked that last scene in Age of Ultron as an ending for the characters. Tony finally retires, while Cap embraces his new home, and prepares to coach a new team of Avengers recruits. For Cap in particular, I love the idea that his role in the modern day could be passing on experience and wisdom to up and coming heroes. His scene with Wanda at the beginning of Civil War speaks to how valuable he could be as a mentor.
Of course, Ultron wasn't truly the end to either of their stories at the time, but I could see their futures looking something like that once Thanos is dealt with.
*SPOILER BELOW*
I'm blown away by how well you managed to break down and come to the conclusion you did regarding steve and tony at the end of endgame, and how it was completely accurate. Bravo.
Yeah, more than any other character in the MCU, Steve Rogers deserves a happy ending. After everything Steve gave up, selflessly, he deserves a happy ending and that moment when he can put his shield down and smile at a job well done. Many characters have things taken from them, but only Steve gave everything willingly
And that’s why I think he will die in endgame. The character who has lost the most and deserve the happiest ending is always the most tragic character when they don’t get said ending.
Vindico damn both tony and steve have suffered a bunch
Boy did he get his happy ending
Saif Shaikh I’ve never been more happy to be wrong
Benjamin Howard yeah, SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVENT WATCHED ENDGAME YET!
However, we still had someone who willingly lost everything. The only difference being that he suffered even more of a loss at the end. Steve has lost the chance to be with the love of his life and most of the life he would have led. Tony sacrificed a future with his family and lost everything he wished for in order to protect it.
I know that I am very biased here, but seeing tony with all the stones made me go breathless for longer than I thought. Because as “obvious“ as it was, in that moment the realization hit me. Tony Stark, now father and loving husband, will die saving not only those he loves but everyone else as well. Because HE was the earths best defender.
When push came to shove, just like Steve, tony did not hesitate.
And if that is not damn admirable in a sad way, I don’t know what else is
Me sitting in class : damm it's only been 5 minutes?
Me watching full fat videos : damm it's already been 30 min ?
thats awesome, thank you Allison!
Age of Ultron:
Tony- "We'll lose"
Steve-"Then we'll do that together too"
Endgame:
Tony-"We said we'd lose but you said we'd do that together"
*I am NOT emotionally prepared for this movie*
*spoiler for the first 10 minutes of Endgame” If you haven’t watched it yet, I think this is word for word what he says in the film.
@@alexman378 I saw it last night....I wasnt ready for it ;_;
that scene was intense
"Here, you put this on and when you meet Thanos again - hide."
@@joelmiller2601 I know! so much emotion. I wonder how long Tony was out there after the Snap. 3 weeks?
With an ending monologue like that, Marvel really needs to sign you up, your passion is undeniable and leads to perfect insights.
Congrats man! You nailed it. Steve got his dance with Peggy. You get to say “I knew it”. You earned it.
I'm surprised that Natasha wasn't brought up that much when talking about Cap and the Russos journey. Its a partnership that's been building in every film they've headed so far. Shes become a fast ally to Steve and facilitated his arc in a very personal way. They've become almost interwoven with each other, to the point where the only other two characters that have shared more screen time together are Tony and Pepper.
She is much closer to Steve than Tony, equal with even Sam and Bucky.
True but his relationship to Tony has greater consequences and gets the biggest spotlight.
He brings her up quite a bit in Part 1 to this video.
You missed the part 1 of this video
I don't think he lied about Tony's parents though. I interpreted it as "I didn't know Bucky killed them but yeah I knew HYDRA killed your parents." Am I alone here?
I agree with you with honest enthusiasm. There would have been no way that Steve knew Bucky was the assassin as Steve didn't know Bucky was the Winter Soldier neither did Steve know that there were other Super-Soldiers. Nuff Said.
I'm kinda surprised Tony didn't find out sooner, given the fact that he bugged and copied sheilds whole database, presumably even the Hydra stuff back in the first avengers movie
I agree. All though there is room for doubt. When Zemo got to Bucky he asked for what happened on the day Howard Stark died. When Cap found him he forced him to tell him what Zemo asked.
So we could say that from that moment he knew
I always got the impression he was saying he basically never confirmed it because he strongly suspected and was almost certain he would not like what he found. That sort of plausible deniability is grey area that is certainly not what Cap is supposed to embody. Hence the betrayal.
I mostly agree with this interpretation, but I think the betrayal comes more from the fact that Steve knew Hydra killed Tony's parents since Winter Soldier but didn't tell Tony about it after so long.
Had Zemo never come, Steve might've kept it secret until his death. If Steve had told Tony about it after finding out, Civil War might've been prevented.
The emphasis on RED in your video is epic.
Akhil tiwari thanks brother
Keep up the fantastic work, my man.👍
Sorry but I couldn't keep watching. The lack of colour balance was intrusive.
Akhil tiwari has
I think I can relate to Captain America far too much. Your essay breakdown was like a reflection into both the character and myself. It's weird. And awe-inspiring. Amazing job.
"After spending so much time thinking he's going to die... the audience gets to see him smile properly again."
This was EXACTLY was I was feeling when I started watching Endgame, and when it ended. I was SO satisfied... to see him smile, because it was the epitome of hope. That symbolic end to the character arc was essential.
You practically predicted Captain America's ending arc in Endgame!! Well done!
Cap is definitely up there as one of my favorites, though I think I am a bit biased since we were both army. One of the most telling things about him in almost every depiction is the sheer damn reverence and respect he's showed for his conviction and morality. It's a repeated occurrence that if it's Cap's way, it's the right way. Even though they're all different people, on some level every Avenger wishes they were a bit more like Steve. The great irony is that while everyone looks at him as if he always knows the path, just like many real veterans are, he's probably more lost and adrift than they are. It's only his will and sense of duty that keep him on his feet. Nice video series, good work.
So well said, Sir!
Cap inspired me to enlist in the army...serve my country...Just waiting for myself to be at the right age...
Well said Tom. ...... Even though you're Army, Semper Fi.....
“If we cant protect the Earth you can be damn well sure we’ll avenge it”
Thats iron man but i cant wait for endgame
Zeen Zones I know I just can’t get over how powerful that line is. I feel like Whedon gave Tony all the cool lines in the first two Avengers movies.
@@Findmeiainthiding i am sad that line wasn't even said ONCE in trailers. i get not saying it in Endgame but i wish the trailers had used it
thats some really good foreshadowing
**Cuts off Thanos’ head with viscous intent**
We discover Steve Rogers is a liar the first moment we see him and he's lying about his name and personal info to try to sneak into the army
@surfitlive The person above never said that lying was a bad thing, just that it was a part of his character from the start and makes sense throughout the movies.
Also, you use the terms soyboy snowflaker trigger puffs unironically?
@surfitlive we all lie for the best intentions. Be that if the intentions are good or not.
@surfitlive It is for personal gain. Bucky calls him out on it, too. Steve has a huge chip on his shoulder. He wants to be part of something meaningful, to do something meaningful, because he was overlooked all his life. That's also what the flashback scene in Civil War is about. It doesn't mean he isn't morally upstanding, but he is still fueled by his own pig-headedness and desire to live up to his own ideal of who he should be above everything else.
@surfitlive Shut up, gramps.
And lying wasn't getting it done.
Watching this after seeing endgame is surreal and super interesting.
Dude, I'm watching this after the release and your interpretation is kinda mindblowing...
You should make a part three when Endgame comes out.
Brigham Bentley we’ve got some big endgame content coming :)
@@FullFatVideos Waiting patiently mate.
@@FullFatVideos Had to rewatch this video essay. A 3rd part would be great but this video encapsulated Steve's arc 😢.
Welp, now I feel like Steve's gonna' die in Endgame.
I mean if they pull his arc off without doing that, the Russo's really will be one of the best filmmakers of all time.
I already think they're among the best blockbuster directors around today. I think they've proved it time and time over.
@@jordansweet8054 right? I feel like they still kind of stand in the shadow of Christopher Nolan in the public conversation, but they don't deserve to...
@@Phelie315 I agree.Nolan is great and deserves most of the praise he gets but the conversation should be wider than it is.The Russos,Gunn,Bird and Rami,at least in some respects have contributed as much as him and did some things better in my opinion.
What I expect is Tony and Steve dying after reconciled their differences, alongside Thor, who lives with a duty to carry on their legacy, as all three fight Thanos, who took the people closest to them. But despite being in a fight for their lives, the two heroes die in peace, having found what they needed in each other. The last thing they see is Thor finally defeating Thanos, and they give one last smile as their greatest foe bites the dust.
Aqib.A.C prepare for the fucking retards who’ve seen endgame spamming this comment with replies
So what you're saying is that the flag on Cap's uniform and shield does not represent America. It's just a terran symbol for "Hope".
"it's not America, in my time it means 'hope'"
Well here its... America
I never thought about it that way, but you are right.
👏👏👏
I'm an American but I'd like to think the Stars and Stripes represents hope to people around the world... I realize our politicians muck things up but our people are usually more than willing to help out people who need it....
I love how accurate this video is
This video shows 2 things:
how good the writing was back then and how good this dude is at analyzing
Thank you!!!
This was a superb video essay. I'm as nervous for Cap/Steve as I would be a real person going to fight in a real war. It's strange, i don't have this apprehension for any of the others, and I blame Marvel's excellent storytelling and character arc for him.
Same here! I've been so excited for Endgame, now its getting close I'm just fearful!
Love the essays!
I just don't get why people think sending Steve back to 1945 would be a peaceful ending for him. What, do they expect him to just kick back and relax knowing what he does about the 20th century? Korea, the Cold War, Vietnam, Hydra?
Alida Gupta I know that’s why I think the only true way for Steve’s story to end is with his death at the hands of thanos
👀
Yeah, because he was living in the 21st century and knew that the 20th century horrors would eventually end and that he and a bunch of other swell folk will be there to protect from the 21st century horrors.
Its really a non issue.
Yeah, and also if he moves something it might have a lot of unintended consequences, like, for example, if he disintegrated Hydra, secretly through Peggy Carter, we dont know if Shield would've still been around to act as an anchor for the Avengers when they first formed, so there would be no one to defeat thanos when it comes to it
captain america let 9/11 happen
You actually managed to talk about and give a viewpoint that I don't think anyone else has and I applaud you for that. Well Done!
Chris Langston that’s the best thing we could hear and what we strive to achieve! Thank you
This is probably the most powerful video I have seen in my entire life, it touched upon caps character perfectly and even managed to put me in tears.
You're specifically right. Legend, mate.
You should talk about "the snap" itself sometime and how it affected all the Avengers. there's a lot of talk *at* "the snap" but not a lot *about* "the snap". The reason why I think the snap is such a brilliant plot device is because it's so insular. Thanos wasn't looking to establish a tyranny which always turns into "well how long is the tyranny going to last? How will he maintain control?". Everything he wanted to do was one singular moment that changed everything forever. It was either going to happen, or it didn't. There was no question about how long he'd do it, or what the effects would be. He did it, and we knew what the effects were.
Yes. This, please.
Ocek perhaps once endgame clarified the fallout and meaning of the snap this would be a great idea! X
I've watched a few of your video essays now and jeez i just now notice 30-40 minutes goes in a flash, you my friend have most absolutely earned this like and sub.
OG trilogy's Luke Skywalker's vibe is so strong in Chris Evans's Captain America
Darkstar love this
Full Fat Videos when Cap drops his shield, saying to Bucky "I won’t fight you. You are my friend" was the moment I completely fell in love with this character. It was like I was watching episode 6 of Star Wars, where Luke throws his lightsaber, refusing to kill his father even in the face of death.
I've said this for years! So true my man
Eh. I would disagree. Luke's journey was becoming a hero and learning what it was he stood for. Captain America has always stood for something and always wanted to save others. If I was going to compare him to another character in fiction, as cheesy as it sounds, it would probably be the character All Might from My Hero Academia. A man born with no power, with no obligation to help others, but determined to do so.
Fangsabre well you can clearly see similarities between Luke/Steve and Bucky/Vader
I didn’t say that Cap is 100% similar to Luke, but their willingness to sacrifice themselves for the people they love despite all circumstances is unquestionable
Amazing, I may have seen this much after Endgame, but this gave me a whole new outlook on the character, Steve Rogers and his arc. You did an amazing outlook on this, that could be a great reason why I loved the direction the Russo Brothers made with this story, loved this, awesome work. :)
Holy shit you nailed what actually happens- that is amazing fairplay
Clicked immediately when I saw the notification.
Thanks for taking the time to make an essay on my favorite Avenger.
Lots of love from Malaysia !
Holy shit! You literally described my life when you started talking about Cap not moving forward in life. I got hit with a wave of "That's why I like him so much!" This was so helpful. I needed this video as a person. Just you speaking about moving on hit me hard. Thank you!
Before this video ends, I'm already shouting "YES! YES". (Metaphorically. My neighbours need their sleep.) This right here is why Steve is my favourite MCU character. He's stuck, and doesn't know what to do for his future.
what the heck. you perfectly described exactly what happened in endgame
i sure did
I just love how these videos make me notice the smallest and yet most important details of the MCU that I hadn't really thought about and make me love the movies and the characters even more because of them.
19:36
No
Yes
Maybe
I dont know
*CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION*
CUniverse you’re not the boss of me now!
You noticed 😍
What Cap meant was, that he knew Hydra ordered the hit on Tony's parents, but he didn't know it was Bucky that killed them.
TVperson1 yes he did rewatch again
@@lurkintomgaming397 He didn't, he knew WS was key Political assassin for 70 years & Starks were assasinated same way so anyone with brain will make the connection, but there's no way to say it was Bucky/WS who actually killed them or other agents 🙈 neither did Movies show he had confirmation
Cap can put two and two together, he just didn't want to face it. He basically put his fingers in his ears going lalalalala. But, he deep down he knew what the truth was.
@@litovietbui Same way Tony knew Bucky was mind controlled Assasin for 70 years but still tried to kill Bucky for what Hydra did to him, while he was'nt even WS mode then. He basically put his fingers in his ears going lalalalala. But, he deep down he knew what the truth was.
Abhishek Suratkar well actually, Zola showed Cap a newspaper explaining this in TWS. Cap knew for 2 years and refused to tell Tony. THAT’S putting your fingers in your ears and going lalalalalalalalala.
Tony, on the other hand, was still not quite over his parents’ early deaths, as shown in the beginning with him using what is now Quentin Beck’s BARF technology. Considering he’d already been trying to bring the Captain in over trying to defend an already mass murderer (the Winter Soldier), and then got told it was a fraud and had to go off and help Cap, that’s already a lot on the brain. “Oh, I just fought you bitterly already but now I’m being told a lot of new shit that changes everything so now I have to fight with you against some soldiers, I think?” Is a shit ton of information to be trying to comprehend over his already emotional state, including the loss of his girlfriend because he wanted to save the world, the deaths of his parents, etc. THEN finally you add into the mix that, through Tony’s eyes, not only is Cap still trying to protect a mass murderer, but that this same mass murderer is the one that killed your parents brutally, which you never quite got over fully in the first place, to steal the serum that made the super soldiers they would have been fighting, and that on top of all of this one of your best friends, who you’ve just swallowed your pride to help out, knew about this for 2 full years and never even thought to tell you. That’s way too much information to process, regardless of intelligence, because sentient creatures are emotional and too many emotions strips rationality away. Cap saying that Bucky didn’t have any control isn’t gonna overthrow the fact that it was still the guy that did it in Tony’s mind, that Cap tried to hide this from him for selfish reasons, and that Cap, to Tony, could just be lying to try and save his friend, which he’s done already. You see? Too much information and also stuff that Tony wouldn’t and definitely shouldn’t have taken as fact without proof. NOT sticking your fingers in your ears and going lalalalalalalalalalalala.
Man, that ending gave me some goosebumps, excellent video, as always
WOW. You called it. Impressed.
omg dude, I never noticed the parallels with cap and thanos, seriously, that's awesome.
Captain America essey which is 30min.......
Time to abandon my homework
so true
I did not wake up today expecting that Full Fat Videos was going to release his Captain America analysis and putting the greatest HBO miniseries (sorry Generation Kill) into it.
One more Captain America thing to enjoy and savour before the (rumoured) end in Endgame. Thank you, you guys are absolute legends!!
Though I haven’t seen any proof of this, I heard he was contracted for another 6 films.
@@dalorasinum386 Chris Evans is done for now. For one, he wants to move on to new things, f.e. directing. For another they need to make space for some new faces like Captain Marvel.
@@bluechick7113 1. Chris Evan's clarified those comments.
2. RDJ contract ended with Avengers: AOU and how many movies was he in after that.
3. I'll see for myself if it's true on 26 April.
@@bluechick7113 Evans will surely take a break, doesn't mean he is done with MCU,
RDJ is different he is 56-57, + takes home more $$$ than rest of cast combined & is already most overused character in MCU makes sense from all 3 way to end his arc right here which would be best possible place to do so
I just can't put into words how much I've enjoyed and appreciated these MCU character and movie essays. I remember while watching Winter Soldier for the first time how much deeper and important it felt--that it was not only telling a story, but weaving statement and narrative in satisfying balance. And the MCU has been going up in quality ever since!
THANK YOU for all the feels and depth in this, and for articulating so much of what I hadn't been able to put into words before (Cap is my fave--Chris Evans' Cap is
The fact that this 2nd essay is so accurate is really eerie. I had to check the date and make sure that it was put out before the movie came out. Wow
No, I’m not sobbing loudly in my student union. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Thanks for so lovingly creating two parts to such an amazing essay. You are an inspiration to me. ✊🏻🇺🇸
Beautiful
Bring some tears to these eyes
Really good essay
Great essay - beautifully encapsulates the character and where he's likely to go. Well done.
This video made me cry, but in a nice cathartic way. These films have been, and will continue to be, so important to me for nearly all the reasons you have listed. So thank you :)
No spoilers here, but WOW, this video gets better after Endgame.
Great video man. But one little pick up. The 'Glasgow scene' is in Edinburgh. There's a wee bit of rivalry between the cities but I do have to give Edinburgh this one.
Also, it's the Yellow King. Not Green King. But great video, none the less.
@@KINGJADEX he even shows a clip with "yellow king" in frame... maybe they're factual traps to prevent video stealing
Wow...Recently started watching the videos while doing by designing work in my background. Let me tell you, everything you said at the end of the video captured my soul and heart perfectly. Thank You. I too grew with MCU just as you described. Awesome...Great JOB. Can't wait to see more amazing stuff...!:)
Great content guys. I'm in my 40s and never imagined this cultural phenomenon could occur. Captain America has been a real surprise to me, with Mcfeely, Markus and the Russo's knocking out the park. Civil War touched on Capatilism v Socialism in many respects. I'm looking forward to Avengers : Endgame (...Captain America 5) :)
How the hell did Civil War touch on Capitalism VS Socialism?
How do you think it touched on socialism VS capitalism?
Wtf does Civil War has to do with capitalism and socialism?
In Civil War (the characters who signed the Sokovia Accords) continuously save the planet from destruction, the Avengers end up being the enforcers of the establishment (UN), with their sickeningly rich leader (Tony) and alarming sense of patriotism.
That's why seeing Steve (the most patriotic looking superhero), rebels against the Accords (bringing down Shield/Hydra in the previous film) due to these establishments not aligning with his beliefs. He's a rebel, a Hero, looking out for the little guy/gal.
Thats just my take on it. Lots of people have covered it more indepth than me.
Craig Fleming so you’re saying that the members of Iron Man’s team are socialists due to their belief that the government should take more responsibility in ensuring the security of ordinary people?
And you’re saying that Captain America’s team are capitalists because they want the Avengers to remain as a “private enterprise” free of oversight and direct responsibility to the people, enabling them to act with more independence?
... when I think of socialists, billionaire playboys don’t really come to mind.
Are you kidding me? That was incredible! Not only did you accurately guess the arch in which caps story will end, but you perfectly described the way that arch will manifest itself in the film. I have never seen anyone do anything like this before! Im a Christian man and I'll tell you the way you are able to analyze and understand storytelling and then display it to your audience is a gift from God! Really impressive stuff.
Nailed that prediction
Who noticed all the doctor who references. “Tooth and claw” “hell bent”
Brilliant! Brilliant job. I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who made these observations while watching this movie. Brilliant job. I can't wait to see what Cap's Endgame will be, come hell or highwater. And i hope he smiles again should he survive. Oh Captain my Captain! 💘
Part II of “Cap Essay”...never clicked a video so fast! 😁👍🏾
Thanks dude :D
I was a little bit confused if that is supposed to be part II or not.
@@swanpride when he made the first video he said there will be a part 2
Yes, but I was expecting it to have "part 2" in the title.
I really appreciate your deep dive into Captain America and the insights you provided into his character. I hope you do a video after you've watched Endgame.
Captain America has been my favourite from the start, because he was good man from the get go that got a chance to make a difference. Loved the journey he has been on from The First Avenger to Endgame.
Thank you for the two essays.
Hey man, just had to say, I've watched all of your videos about the MCU Big three (Iron Man, Captain America and Thor), and I'm glad that I did. They really allowed me to see so much more and broadened my perspective for the better. Thanks! :)
The Glasgow sequence? I wish! It's actually in Edinburgh
And filmed partly in Durham
A fight at George Square and Glasgow Central with a cameo by the Duke of Wellington with a cone on his head definitley would have been waaaay cooler
@@zew1414 Agreed!
let's just call it a train station sequence...
Of course, Tony is Steve’s foil, so of course you would mention Cap in your essay on Iron Man and vice versa would have a focus on their foil.
Batman Official I agree!
You're overthinking Steve's motives. He's not embracing a "dark side" because he's nostalgic, but he's holding true to the simple principle he expressed in The First Avenger: he doesn't like bullies. Hydra was the institutional bully par excellence and Bucky was its victim. Even when he did awful things, Bucky was exploited and manipulated. Steve's real mission is to oppose bullies with principled strength. Tony's desire for revenge was also the result of Hydra's manipulation-- in a sense his lust for vengeance furthered Hydra's lust for power by undermining the Avengers and Steve was bound to fight him, not just to save Bucky but to save Tony from the destructive power of his own anger.
Kenrick Hackett I don’t think what you’re saying necessarily contradicts what I’ve said
Also, Steve extended the olive branch at the end to try and salve what damage he had personally caused.
I gotta agree with you here. Cap doesn't like bullies, but Age of Ultron deepened his arc. Great job on your analysis btw (but then again, I'm biased, I thought something similar)
well said buddy
This is so beautiful! YOu did such a great job on this and the first part of Cap!! I love Captain America and you explained his whole story soooooooo in depth! I'm so glad I found this and the first video. I think you're spot on on him, and I also thought of maybe he could end up back in the past. I know it will end awesomely!!!
I have been waiting for this video since the first part. Thanks
3:40 You know, I've been wondering whether if there is time travel involved whether it wasn't Strange or whoever who dragged Red Skull to Vormir. That comment of seeing the future would be a nicely fitting retcon.
I think it works better as simply a dickhead saying "the future is Nazis and you suck", but that is a cool thought.
It's the Edinburgh sequence, not Glasgow
Let's just call it a Train Station Sequence...
It’s like calling the Avengers fight in Assemble the LA sequence. When it’s in New York.
Amen! I’ve been in Edinburgh, on the High Street (where the fight begins), AND in the train station - where Cap steps out of the shadows. Yay, Edinburgh!
The Grandfather Paradox would cancel out Steve going back, as then he wouldn’t exist in the modern day. Then that would change many different things about how the modern day plays ouf
Chris Filet yeah. I’m hoping he gets a dance w Peggy in like soul world or something. Whatever, his ending will be satisfying, I trust the filmmakers
it really depends on how they would implement time travel. They could very realistically do a multi verse theory representation of it where the simple act of him going back in time creates a new pocket universe where he is in the 40's living life as he would have.
@@Yak937 he is gonna wield mioneir thought
It'll be like "oh look at this great character that we've been developing for over 10 years. We're gonna act like he didn't exist all this time and all the actions that he has done in the MCU will be erased as well". That will make watching all the previous movies pointless. This the same thing X men days of future past did and it ruined the X men franchise for me
It would be another timeline surely?
It's incredible how well you guessed what would happen in endgame
Wow you called it exactly. Scene for scene.
But is not Cap’s defense of-and fight for-the unrelenting redemption of Bucky even more telling of the altruistic and (actually) unbiased nature of his heart? I mean yes, they are old friends, and in the short and limited story of direct justice that would be Tony’s murder of Bucky, he seems wrong. However, ultimately Steve was right. Bucky’s redemption means so much more to the characters and the universe than him receiving Tony’s “justice” ever would.
He wasn’t wrong, he wasn’t blinded by friendship or love of the past. He was right! He truly believed that there was still good in someone so terribly corrupted, and he found it. His heart is for only good, and in many situations, the societal view of what is right is very limited. He saw the bigger picture and he stuck to what he believed.
wildwolf Yes But you forget that Cap has hesitated when Crossbones even mentioned Buck. This highlights that he is biased if at least slightly. Nothing wrong with that. Makes him human
But if he hadn't lied Tony then he might have been able to reveal this bombshell in a less traumatic way that wasn't in a position to cause such an immediate purely emotional response from Tony
ItsMichaelReid Cap would have been startled if Crossbones mentioned any of his friends names.
Jac Cooper If Cap told tony the truth sooner, tony would have tried in all his power to hand Bucky to Wakanda as soon as possible so he’d die
I really hope they don't just do that time travel fixes everything bullshit. What I think might be more interesting is Thanos or circumstances give Cap a chance to go back and live the life he never had but decides to destroy the stone/gauntlet so that he can save the world. Realizing that it is finally time to move on just like Tony must learn something similar.
oof
Is the color saturation low on purpose?
Likely to avoid copyright detection
Ruben Quiros yes, the red is brought up in reference to the Endgame marketing material. If you notice it bleeds back in when we talk about Endgame :)
Full Fat Videos thanks for the explanation. Once again your analysis was engaging and on point. I can’t wait to see the content that Endgame produces for this channel.
it's amazing to watch your video after having seen End Game. I didn't watch it before because i didnt want to have any theory about the movie and im in awe
this sounds like you've already seen endgame, wow!