Rookie mistake. Too ease non-wrestling fans into wrestling you need to show them how juvenile/silly but funny it can be. I got a mate to see wrestling in a different light by showing him Hogan/Michaels at Summer Slam for example. Got another who became a sort of casual fan (see still asks me what's going on) by showing her 2006 D-X. The serious stuff NEVER works, all they see is obvious fake fighting.
@@HHHBFResurrectedWhich is baffling to me because, like, do they not like action movies either? I don't see the difference that makes it so somebody can take Neo and Agent Smith fake fighting seriously but not Roman Reigns and Sami Zayn.
I remember when you guys talked about it in 'Worst Match Ever', but I have to reiterate: The ECW chamber was purposely DESIGNED so Vince could fire Heyman and prove himself right. He wanted to push Bobby, Heyman disagreed, got shouted at, had to watch his child die in front of him, play along with it and then get fired for something he was not even to blame for. The fact that Heyman EVEN came back so many times in the future tells Volumes about how good of a businessman he is. Because if I were treated like that I would never have returned to something Vince was even remotely tied to.
That's the unique thing about December to Dismember that sets it apart, it's a show that NOBODY wanted to do or see. Vince intended it to be bad, Heyman knew it was bad but couldn't do anything, the talent knew about the power struggle & didn't care as a result (the main event is a properly soulless match), the fans knew the show was doomed for weeks. It's a show laden with apathy & bitterness. Shows like RR14 & RR15 you can at least say Vince, in his own delusional mind, thinks what he's doing is right & fans will fall in line eventually. Not the case with D2D, dreadful show.
The lack of King of the Ring 95 is ASTOUNDING to me. They probably have never watched it before. That's the only reason I'll accept for it not to be here.
@@six6thdisciple also just the lineup as well is absolutely horrible. HBK and Undertaker are in it but they go out like punks so the finals can be Mabel and Savio Vega???
Highly disappointed it wasn't mentioned. There is not a great match or moment on that show. Tatanka in the main event here is like Beefcake being in the main event of Starrcade 94. Neither belonged in those spots. Also Unforgiven 07 is awful.
@@joshmau4472it doesn’t help the whole point of Mabel’s win was Vince pathetic attempt to counteract the damage the steroid scandal caused “Well here my next biggest talent is this giant guy with more noticeable flab than muscle. That’ll fix the damage right.” No offense to Mabel but yeah his entire run from KotR onwards was just a Vince political play
My one criticism of this series, whichever light you guys are using, seemingly always white washes out the boards making them really really hard to read. Can you maybe tip the boards forward a bit towards the desk to reduce the glare possibly?
Wouldn’t say it’s a criticism at all, definitely good feedback for the guys. Agree, love the show but I keep forgetting what show they are talking about haha
Same, was there with friends and we had stopped watching wwe at this point. From 2017-2019 was a drought. We were dissapointed with the product and my friend who was a die hard wrestling fan said lets go and see the show and im ok and his brother also my friend went along because he was just like me. We go and we see the entire show and by the end of it we started chanting aew. Truely a horrible show
5. Battleground 2017 - Why couldn't someone have hindered the Jinder? 4. WrestleMania 32 - Endless and joyless. 3. WrestleMania IX - The moment even little kids realized they were tired of Hulk Hogan. 2. December to Dismember - Jesus Christ, where does one even start? "Bobby Lashley wins the ECW Title by last eliminating the Big Show" is not even the most cursed sentence in the event summary. 1. Every Saudi Show (even the "good" ones) - Say what you will about WCW, at least they only did Collision in Korea ONCE.
Royal Rumble 2015 is atrocious, but I think it gets saved a bit by The Rock's reaction. The genuine confusion on his face is perfect; he went out there thinking that he and Roman were going to get a standing ovation... and as he processes what's going on around him, you can tell that the words going through his head are: "Oh. Something is wrong here."
Everything about that rumble match was just so appallingly terrible. From the booking just getting worse and worse, Daniel Bryan’s early elimination, and the worst of all sending out the rock to help out Roman reigns, which was not a good look for him, considering the fact that he was supposed to be the triumphant babyface ascending to the top of the WWE mountain. On top of all, that the fact that the company really thought that the fans were going to get the fans to cheer for Roman with the help of The Rock only for him to get booed as well was just downright embarrassing.
If anything, The Rock's reaction just evokes how terribly wrong the entire conception of that Rumble was. The Rock returning to save The Greatest Babyface Of The New Generation from the bad guys was supposed to be a "greatest pops of all time" moment. It wasn't, because only WWE management actually thought The Greatest Babyface Of The New Generation was likeable. It was a cringe moment, as much as the entire booking of that match after Roman entered (hell, starting when Daniel Bryan got eliminated). The Rock was cringing when he saw the reaction. I was cringing when I saw the whole thing live. Awful.
Fun fact: I was at Great American Bash 2004! Not only that, it was the first PPV I ever attended AND I paid top dollar to have good seats for it. I still have the Torrie Wilson folding chair from that show in my closet. Just to remind me of the hurt...
My worst fear is sharing interests with friends and them actively looking for feeling bored or uninterested or didn't care or like it. The fact that they straight up LEFT EARLY would give me so many sleepless nights out embarrassment and self-loathing
I'm shocked Backlash 2018 wasn't on any lists. After Seth vs Miz it went steep downhill after that to the point where fans were actually leaving during the main event!
I know its harder to care about them because theyre older... But In Your House 4, King if the Ring 1995 and Beware of Dog are such disasters... *Literally* in the case of Beware of Dog.
Mania 32 has some fun things on it. The Ladder match is really fun AJ vs. Jericho, need I say more The Triple Threat Women's match Corbin's main roster call up Austin's entrance. That crowd EXPLODED
32 had some solid moments but the lows are just too low. Shane & Taker doesn't pick up till they leave the cell, and even then its not good. The Rock trashing the Wyatt Family and injuring Eric Rowan after 30 minutes of standing around. League of Nations beating the new day out of nowhere. Disappointing Brock-Dean match where lots of weapons are shown but never used. That god awful main event. It does its best to make you forget the few solid moments.
@@ht82smash Thats entirely fair. I lost my damn mind when Zack Ryder won the IC Title and I had a friend go nuts on Baron Corbin winning the battle royal (mainly cause he almost made it his prediction). It had decent highs but mega lows.
THANK YOU TEMPEST! As someone who saw Great American Bash 2004 on original live broadcast as a child, words cannot describe how offended I was. This is my personal number 1 hated WWE PPV, more so than HIAC 2019, Rumble 2015, or any of the Saudi shows. For reference, this is my list: 1. Great American Bash 2004 2. December to Dismember 3. Super Showdown 2020 4. Crown Jewel 2018 5. Hell in a Cell 2019 6. Summerslam 1995 7. Wrestlemania 27 8. Wrestlemania 32 9. Royal Rumble 2015 10. Survivor Series 2015
That match was amazing and one of the greatest triple threat match in WWE history but it's not the selling point of that show, the actual selling point was the Royal Rumble match and it was awful. Nobody watches a Royal Rumble event for anything other than the Rumble match.
I really appreciate, as an Ontario boy, the commitment that Tempest has to honouring our local sports teams on a British wrestling channel. Well done sir
Undertaker vs Triple H at WM27 was good. Also I agree with Pete, they killed the Fiend’s momentum immediately and that’s sad because in my opinion he was the greatest character in WWE history and it’s sad that Vince didn’t like Bray.
@@patrickmilner4149it was worse but i think another match was great that no one talks about is punk vs orton but only two matches are good rest are not worthy too watch
I would love to see the anniversary version of this that features Oli, Sullivan, and Laurie and them talking about their worst PPVS and then comparing it to these ones with points added.
No Backlash 2018? That show had a good match at the top between Rollins and Miz and then just tanked. The main event was Roman vs Joe, and people started leaving and chanted "Beat the Traffic!"
Look I'm not saying it would have been good, but maybe if we had let Shane get his way and eliminate Seth the royal rumble would have actually built something instead of the nothing we got
I am convinced to this day Shane's elimination being so bad was because he was actually trying to go into business for himself and do that and Brock had to ACTUALLY go "NO! GET OUT!" Because Brock Lesnar eliminations are always beastly, pun intended deal with it, except that one because I legit think Shane was trying to fight him to stay in the entire time and it shows.
ah finally someone mentions stomping grounds 2019. or as I like to call it rematch grounds. so hard to take ziggler and corbin serious as serious contenders at that time
As always --> the order! Luke -- 10- Crown Jewel (2018) 9- Super Showdown (2020) 8- Royal Rumble (2014) 7- Royal Rumble (2022) 6- Battleground (2017) 5- Hell in a Cell (2019) 4- WM 27 (2011) 3- Super Showdown (2019) 2- WM 32 (2016) 1- December to Dismember (2006) Tempest -- 10- Royal Rumble (2022) 9- Super Showdown (2019) 8- WM 11 (1995) 7- Crown Jewel (2018) 6- WM 2 (1986) 5- Super Showdown (2020) 4- The Great American Bash (2004) 3- Royal Rumble (2015) 2- Hell in a Cell (2019) 1- December to Dismember (2006) Pete -- 10- Survivor Series (2021) 9- Table Ladders Chairs (2014) 8- Royal Rumble (2022) 7- Battleground (2013) 6- Crown Jewel (2018) 5- WM 34 (2018) 4- WM 32 (2016) 3- Royal Rumble (2015) 2- December to Dismember (2006) 1- Hell in a Cell (2019)
I cancelled my wwe network subscription after that 22 Rumble. I do think the importance of the show makes it so much worse when the show is so so bad. I didn’t Diesel vs Mabel Summerslam, or the 99 Rumble.
For those who don't remember for hell in the cell 2019. WWE ran a poll on Twitter asking people how they thought the Hell in a cell match was gonna end and one of the options was DQ and THATS when i knew the tomfoolery that was about to down
The final Top 10 based on Borda Count rules (10 points for first, 9 for 2nd, etc.): 1) December To Dismember (29) 2) Hell In A Cell 2019 (25) 3) Royal Rumble 2015 (16) 3) Wrestlemania 32 (16) 5) Crown Jewel 2018 (10) 5) Super Showdown 2019 (10) 7) Super Showdown 2020 (8) 7) Royal Rumble 2022 (8) 9) Great American Bash 2004 (7) 9) Wrestlemania 27 (7) After the top 8, it got muddled with one-vote nominees, but hey.
I love this show a lot! When you do your next batch of filming, just a thought if you’d like. On similar list counting shows I watch, when something is on multiple lists they wait to talk about at the highest spot, which allows everyone to share their thoughts without it being repetitive. Just a thought, love the show! Thanks for All the great shows!
December to Dismember shouldn't be this low. The only issues I hear are that it was poorly advertised, and the wrong guy won the chamber, it is not even close to near the worst, the matches aren't bad, and the chamber is actually kind of good as long as you don't just cry about Punk and RVD losing
I’m ashamed for December to Dismember. It took place in my home town, and they didn’t even come close to selling out the PPV, plus it was a HORRIBLE SHOW! It was the last time Augusta, GA got a live TV product.
the good matches on their Lists: 10. Roman reigns vs Seth Rollins (just for rollins troll entrance) RR 2022 9. Luke Harper vs Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match TLC+S 2014 8. Bray Wyatt vs D-bryan RR 2014 7. The Shield vs The Rhodes BG 2013 6. The New Day vs The Usos BG 2017 (i picked the safe bet) 5. Rollins Vs Balor vs The Miz WM 2018 4. HHH vs Undertaker WM 2011 3. Rollins vs Cena vs Lesnar RR 2015 2. IC Ladder Match WM 2016 1. Becky Lynch vs Sasha Banks HiaC 2019
@@lewisgrant7622 I didn’t watch it I started watching wwe in 2005 and 2007 was pretty rotten and unforgiven pissed me off at age 11 to the point that i stopped watching once John cena got injured from October to January I started watching once I heard Jericho came back but 2007 has a long list of injuries and terrible ppv’s No way out Judgment day One night stand Vengeance The great American bash Summerslam Unforgiven Cyber Sunday And Armageddon
Things from Wrestlemania 32 I actually Loved Zack Ryder wins Intercontinental Title Shawn Michaels, Mick Foley and Stone Cold Steve Austin return The Brock Lesnar vs Dean Ambrose No Holds Barred Street Fight Match Undertaker vs Shane McMahon The Rock wins in 6 seconds and John Cena returns Roman Reigns spearing Stephanie McMahon
Quite amazing Tempest talked about GAB 04 without mentioning the main event. The Concrete Crypt match, where Undertaker basically murders Paul Bearer :P
I fell of watching wrestling around 2010, because WWE became unmatchable, then I see lists like this and think "wow, they actually managed to get worse for the next 10 years", luckily by the time I started watching again this year WWE mostly got themselves together.
What I really hate about Royal Rumble 2015 is that the first 15 minutes or so of the men's Rumble is actually really good! We get an early Bubba sighting to pop the crowd with the greatest hits, and we got Bray Wyatt running the show for a little while. Bray vs. Boogeyman was good silly fun, and squashing the other two and giving him mic time in between the eliminations really helped sell him as a threat. And then just as it was about to wear out its welcome, Daniel Bryan comes out to rekindle the feud and it's great! It's a really strong beginning, and it's honestly kind of impressive just how quickly it all goes downhill.
They even have DDP in it. It's incredible that they screwed it up. Bubba Ray, Boogeyman and DDP in the first 15 entrants, and it all goes downhill from there. I don't think fans would've been mad if Dean ambrose or Dolph won either, so Bryan being eliminated could have been recovered from
I wish they would say the name of PPVs when talking about them, sometimes I get off my chair to go to the kitchen or I just start doing other stuff and listen to the video like a podcast but I've no idea what they're talking about unless they name the events or matches that took place in the PPV
@wrestletalk Idea for TLC; best stipulation (ladder, tables, i quit, HIAC, LMS, ironman) singles matches ever. Then one for multi-man and then tag teams.
Honorable Mentions: *King of the Ring 1995 a,k,a KING MABEL *SummerSlam 1995 a.k.a MABEL BREAKS DIESEL'S NOSE *WrestleMania IX a.k.a THAT'S THE MAIN EVENT.... PUT ME IN... BROTHER!!! *WrestleMania XV a.k.a The Execution of Big Boss Man *In Your House: The Great White North 1995 a.k.a MABEL VS YOKOZUNA *In Your House: D-Generation X 1997 *Fastlane 2017 a.k.a Goldberg squashes KO *WrestleMania IV a.k.a THE REMATCH ENDED IN A DOUBLE DQ *Survivor Series 2008 a.k.a Edge and Vickie Guerrero screws Triple H and Jeff Hardy *In Your House: Beware of Dog 1996 *In Your House: One Night Only (live in the UK) a.k.a DX SCREWS BULLDOG AND ENTIRE BRITISH AUDIENCE *Capitol Carnage 1998 (UK PPV) *Capitol Punishment 2011 a.k.a the one with "Fake" Barrack Obama in it *King of the Ring 1999 a.k.a The Mysterious Control man over the briefcase containing the full control of WWE *Over the Edge 1999 a.k.a The Horrific Tragedy of Owen Hart *Survivor Series 2000 *Judgment Day 2001 *Backlash 2002 a.k.a HULKAMANIA IS BACK!! *Judgment Day 2003 *The Great American Bash 2005 a.k.a UNDERTAKER MURDERS MUHAMMAD HASSAN!! (Thanks uPn) *SummerSlam 2007 *Breaking Point 2009 a.k.a The Undertaker vs CM Punk submission match controversial finish *SummerSlam 2010 a.k.a THE BURIAL OF THE NEXUS *Hell in a Cell 2012 a.k.a BRAD F***ING MADDOX!!!! *Fastlane 2015 *Extreme Rules 2020: The Pandemic Horror Show a.k.a the FAKE POPPED OUT EYE of Rey Mysterio *Superstar Spectacle 2021
Mania 32 was the only one Ive ever been too. I found some stuff to love about it here and there but uuuuugh that slog of a main event. I loved Trips' creepy entrance and I found Skull Queen Steph kind of awesome and the good stuff for the whole show ended there. Ugh. At least I got to see the horrible Divas branding and Barbie butterfly belt retired in person.
I hate that The Great American Bash had such low-card matches with Velocity-level superstars like Billy Gunn vs Kenzo Suzuki, Hardcore Holly vs Mordecai, Mark Jindrak vs Scotty 2 Hotty, and Charlie Haas vs Luther Reigns. To prove my point, One of the matches I just mentioned wasn't even on the PPV and was on an episode of Velocity one month later but you don't know which one
Rumble 2022. Oof. I was there. It was worse in person. Had to watch the monitors because they couldn't even get house lighting right. You can hear us begging to turn the lights off
I'd probably had Backlash 2018 on my list somewhere, that's the show with Joe VS Roman Main Eventing and the crowd turns on it hard. It had a decent Miz VS Rollins opener but the rest of the show sucks.
I say it every time HiaC 2019 comes up, but the fact that they had 1) The Fiend lose to Seth Rollins in Hell in a Cell the way he did, and 2) Brock Lesnar squash Kofi Kingston for the WWE Title in the same week as (literally days after) the first episode of AEW Dynamite is insane.
It’s like Vince was CONVINCED in his deluded mind that he could put on anything and fans wouldn’t care It’s like he learned NOTHING from that godawful O’Donnell vs Trump fake match I mean fans were literally chanting TNA during it and quite a number can be seen WALKING OUT
You should do the top 10 biggest WWE fumbles (either NXT call ups or signings that should have been pushed as stars but ended up being an afterthought)
To this day, Survivor Series 2021 is arguably the worst PPV/PLE ever( in my personal mention). To have one of the big 4 events be overshadowed by a stupid egg that was there to promote a movie with The Rock in it. And speaking of The Rock, WHERE WAS HE?! Wasn't it Rock's 25th anniversary that year? Cringe battle royal! No Rock appearance! A cringe product tye-in! THE EGG!!!! Worse Survivor Series EVER!
Luke's (fine) speech about WrestleMania 27 was incredible. Only note I have is that Punk/Orton and Hunter/Taker were decent to good on that show. But besides that, correct stuff.
Really like the premise of sharing each of your personal top tens, small change to the format I would make is using those personal top tens to create a final agrogated list. Gives room to include debate in the discussion, maybe two people disagree on a position and the third must give deciding vote ect. Something similar to the way the match of the day top ten podcast is done, the pretense is create a top ten list but really its just a prompt for a podcast topic.
Since they didn't mention it at the end of the vid, the final results are as follows: In Third Place with 16 points: it's a tie between Royal Rumble 2015 and WrestleMania 32. In Second Place with 25 points: Hell in a Cell 2019. And in First Place with a whopping 29 points: ECW December to Dismember from 2006.
17:53 How sad… I’ve only been to two Royal Rumbles. 2022 and 2012 (the one with the commentary team in it). I want to see a good Royal Rumble live so bad.
Here is mine: 1: Great American Bash 2004 2: Survivor Series 1992 3: Royal Rumble 1995 4: Wrestlemania 27 5: Summerslam 1995 6: King of the Ring 95 7: Wrestlemania 1 8: Wrestlemania 11 9: Royal Rumble 2012 10: In Your House 12: It’s Time
I’m 100% with Pete on HIAC 2019. December to Dismember is objectively worse, but HIAC 2019 is more personally insulting. I too was amped for the Fiend, most interested I had been in WWE in a very long time, and they ruined it.
@@lewisgrant7622 yeah I’m pretty sure multiple people were telling Vince to stop the show but he refused. I think it was JR who said they never should have continued after that.
When Mania season comes around, you should do a pair of super-sized lists with the 20 best and 20 worst Mania matches of all time (40 matches total, cause it's Mania 40, synergy!)
Royal Rumble 2015 top 5? It had arguably the greatest Royal Rumble match ever (triple threat) and the Roman Rumble was HILARIOUS. The crowd escalating more and more is fascinating TV. Pete and Tempest are such babies lol
2013-2015 WWE killed my passion for Pro Wrestling until I came back watching in 2021 (not them though). I’m pretty sure that i’m never going to feel the necessity to watch a WWE show ever again.
My guy wwe ain't wrestling it's bad sports entertainment bs Wrestling is outside wwe watch promotions like njpw aew roh tna and soo many more mainly aew and njpw That's actual wrestling
@@reubenelite at the time I’ve finished WWE I was mostly watching NJPW only. TNA wasn’t my cup of tea and ROH shows were a pain in the ass to watch online
The audacity of Pete to say that TLC 2014 doesn’t have anything good on it when it literally opens with Ziggler and Harper burning the house down is absurd
Hell in a Cell 2019 made me want to quit being a wrestling fan all together. Thank god AEW had coke around because I would’ve left wrestling behind. I LOVED Bray and everything he did, and this f*cking killed me because it was the greatest character work of ALL time and it’s not even close. And they just killed him dead. It still makes me sad
That explanation for Wrestlemania 34 at 5th was just heartbreaking. Want to hug Pete after that.
@@BrockSamsonVB”what a softie.He hates losing friends because of the thing he loves”-You
@BrockSamsonVB does being a grown man make you immune to being sad about losing friends, both to death and falling out of touch?
This was my immediate reaction NGL
Rookie mistake. Too ease non-wrestling fans into wrestling you need to show them how juvenile/silly but funny it can be. I got a mate to see wrestling in a different light by showing him Hogan/Michaels at Summer Slam for example. Got another who became a sort of casual fan (see still asks me what's going on) by showing her 2006 D-X.
The serious stuff NEVER works, all they see is obvious fake fighting.
@@HHHBFResurrectedWhich is baffling to me because, like, do they not like action movies either? I don't see the difference that makes it so somebody can take Neo and Agent Smith fake fighting seriously but not Roman Reigns and Sami Zayn.
I felt so bad for Pete after the Wrestlemania 34 story. On his birthday of all days! Also happy birthday Pete.
I remember when you guys talked about it in 'Worst Match Ever', but I have to reiterate:
The ECW chamber was purposely DESIGNED so Vince could fire Heyman and prove himself right. He wanted to push Bobby, Heyman disagreed, got shouted at, had to watch his child die in front of him, play along with it and then get fired for something he was not even to blame for.
The fact that Heyman EVEN came back so many times in the future tells Volumes about how good of a businessman he is. Because if I were treated like that I would never have returned to something Vince was even remotely tied to.
It also doesn't help that WWECW died three weeks into its new life because RVD... you know.
@@SapinskiMathIt died whilst being born. Need I remind you of the zombie on the first episode?
That's the unique thing about December to Dismember that sets it apart, it's a show that NOBODY wanted to do or see. Vince intended it to be bad, Heyman knew it was bad but couldn't do anything, the talent knew about the power struggle & didn't care as a result (the main event is a properly soulless match), the fans knew the show was doomed for weeks. It's a show laden with apathy & bitterness.
Shows like RR14 & RR15 you can at least say Vince, in his own delusional mind, thinks what he's doing is right & fans will fall in line eventually. Not the case with D2D, dreadful show.
No it died about 2 seconds into the first broadcast when Sandman beat up a literal Zombie.@@SapinskiMath
As I was reading this I got the notification saying Paul Heyman is going into the hall of fame.
Mania IX and KOTR '95 breathing a VERY heavy sigh of relief
As well as most of 95-99...
The lack of King of the Ring 95 is ASTOUNDING to me. They probably have never watched it before. That's the only reason I'll accept for it not to be here.
@@six6thdisciple also just the lineup as well is absolutely horrible. HBK and Undertaker are in it but they go out like punks so the finals can be Mabel and Savio Vega???
Highly disappointed it wasn't mentioned. There is not a great match or moment on that show. Tatanka in the main event here is like Beefcake being in the main event of Starrcade 94. Neither belonged in those spots.
Also Unforgiven 07 is awful.
@@joshmau4472it doesn’t help the whole point of Mabel’s win was Vince pathetic attempt to counteract the damage the steroid scandal caused
“Well here my next biggest talent is this giant guy with more noticeable flab than muscle. That’ll fix the damage right.”
No offense to Mabel but yeah his entire run from KotR onwards was just a Vince political play
I still find it funny that goldust came out right after bryan got eliminated. The name of his theme was shattered dreams. A poetic f you to the fans
My one criticism of this series, whichever light you guys are using, seemingly always white washes out the boards making them really really hard to read. Can you maybe tip the boards forward a bit towards the desk to reduce the glare possibly?
Less of a criticism and more of a nitpick as the editors (at least in this episode) put up the shows anyway
Wouldn’t say it’s a criticism at all, definitely good feedback for the guys. Agree, love the show but I keep forgetting what show they are talking about haha
@@bb_nation7963 That's fair enough haha
One of the gayest comments ive ever seen
I was physically there at Hell in A Cell 2019! I will never forget how furious the crowd was. The show started well with high hopes
Same, was there with friends and we had stopped watching wwe at this point. From 2017-2019 was a drought. We were dissapointed with the product and my friend who was a die hard wrestling fan said lets go and see the show and im ok and his brother also my friend went along because he was just like me. We go and we see the entire show and by the end of it we started chanting aew. Truely a horrible show
5. Battleground 2017 - Why couldn't someone have hindered the Jinder?
4. WrestleMania 32 - Endless and joyless.
3. WrestleMania IX - The moment even little kids realized they were tired of Hulk Hogan.
2. December to Dismember - Jesus Christ, where does one even start? "Bobby Lashley wins the ECW Title by last eliminating the Big Show" is not even the most cursed sentence in the event summary.
1. Every Saudi Show (even the "good" ones) - Say what you will about WCW, at least they only did Collision in Korea ONCE.
Royal Rumble 2015 is atrocious, but I think it gets saved a bit by The Rock's reaction. The genuine confusion on his face is perfect; he went out there thinking that he and Roman were going to get a standing ovation... and as he processes what's going on around him, you can tell that the words going through his head are: "Oh. Something is wrong here."
Everything about that rumble match was just so appallingly terrible. From the booking just getting worse and worse, Daniel Bryan’s early elimination, and the worst of all sending out the rock to help out Roman reigns, which was not a good look for him, considering the fact that he was supposed to be the triumphant babyface ascending to the top of the WWE mountain. On top of all, that the fact that the company really thought that the fans were going to get the fans to cheer for Roman with the help of The Rock only for him to get booed as well was just downright embarrassing.
If anything, The Rock's reaction just evokes how terribly wrong the entire conception of that Rumble was.
The Rock returning to save The Greatest Babyface Of The New Generation from the bad guys was supposed to be a "greatest pops of all time" moment. It wasn't, because only WWE management actually thought The Greatest Babyface Of The New Generation was likeable.
It was a cringe moment, as much as the entire booking of that match after Roman entered (hell, starting when Daniel Bryan got eliminated). The Rock was cringing when he saw the reaction. I was cringing when I saw the whole thing live.
Awful.
The Triple Threat just about saves that from my Top Ten list.
Fun fact: I was at Great American Bash 2004! Not only that, it was the first PPV I ever attended AND I paid top dollar to have good seats for it. I still have the Torrie Wilson folding chair from that show in my closet. Just to remind me of the hurt...
Still, Torrie was good to experience 😂😂😂
TLC + S 2014 has 1 good thing, Harper vs Ziggler
My worst fear is sharing interests with friends and them actively looking for feeling bored or uninterested or didn't care or like it. The fact that they straight up LEFT EARLY would give me so many sleepless nights out embarrassment and self-loathing
If this episode had the points system:
1. December to Dismember - 29
2. Hell in a Cell 2019 - 25
3. Royal Rumble 15, Wrestlemania 32 - 16
The most depressing thing about DX vs Kane & Taker is that somehow retired Shawn was still the best wrestler in that match by a LONG SHOT
Didn't the other 3 get injured in the match?
And he still pulled a goddamn moonsault out of his pocket
I'm shocked Backlash 2018 wasn't on any lists. After Seth vs Miz it went steep downhill after that to the point where fans were actually leaving during the main event!
Came to say this!
Exactly
Ppl leaving in the main event lmao
I know its harder to care about them because theyre older... But In Your House 4, King if the Ring 1995 and Beware of Dog are such disasters... *Literally* in the case of Beware of Dog.
Mania 32 has some fun things on it.
The Ladder match is really fun
AJ vs. Jericho, need I say more
The Triple Threat Women's match
Corbin's main roster call up
Austin's entrance. That crowd EXPLODED
32 had some solid moments but the lows are just too low. Shane & Taker doesn't pick up till they leave the cell, and even then its not good. The Rock trashing the Wyatt Family and injuring Eric Rowan after 30 minutes of standing around. League of Nations beating the new day out of nowhere. Disappointing Brock-Dean match where lots of weapons are shown but never used. That god awful main event.
It does its best to make you forget the few solid moments.
@@dragonfire7354Oh no, I'm not defending 32 by any means and I was there live
@@ht82smash Thats entirely fair. I lost my damn mind when Zack Ryder won the IC Title and I had a friend go nuts on Baron Corbin winning the battle royal (mainly cause he almost made it his prediction). It had decent highs but mega lows.
I can't wait to watch some of these matches on the "Worst Match Ever" series
THANK YOU TEMPEST! As someone who saw Great American Bash 2004 on original live broadcast as a child, words cannot describe how offended I was. This is my personal number 1 hated WWE PPV, more so than HIAC 2019, Rumble 2015, or any of the Saudi shows. For reference, this is my list:
1. Great American Bash 2004
2. December to Dismember
3. Super Showdown 2020
4. Crown Jewel 2018
5. Hell in a Cell 2019
6. Summerslam 1995
7. Wrestlemania 27
8. Wrestlemania 32
9. Royal Rumble 2015
10. Survivor Series 2015
Honestly the triple threat at Rumble 2015 is enough to take it off the list because that match is match of the year
That match was amazing and one of the greatest triple threat match in WWE history but it's not the selling point of that show, the actual selling point was the Royal Rumble match and it was awful. Nobody watches a Royal Rumble event for anything other than the Rumble match.
Lol it was good but not moty
Njpw was still there in 2015
@@six6thdiscipleCena Vs Styles was 2017 ya fuckin ginit
WrestleMania IX watching from the sidelines, relieved to finally be left of a worst PPV list.
I honestly thought it was worse than XI.
I really appreciate, as an Ontario boy, the commitment that Tempest has to honouring our local sports teams on a British wrestling channel. Well done sir
Undertaker vs Triple H at WM27 was good. Also I agree with Pete, they killed the Fiend’s momentum immediately and that’s sad because in my opinion he was the greatest character in WWE history and it’s sad that Vince didn’t like Bray.
Why Vince didn’t like bray ?
@@Redirishaussie1206if I’m remembering correctly because bray wasn’t in the shape that Vince wanted him to be
Mania 27 rightfully on the list but that taker triple h match was the best thing about that card
WrestleMania 27 wasn't that bad as people make it out to be.
@@patrickmilner4149it was worse but i think another match was great that no one talks about is punk vs orton but only two matches are good rest are not worthy too watch
I would love to see the anniversary version of this that features Oli, Sullivan, and Laurie and them talking about their worst PPVS and then comparing it to these ones with points added.
You guys should do top 10 WWE wrestler theme songs. I'd love to see that.
No Backlash 2018? That show had a good match at the top between Rollins and Miz and then just tanked. The main event was Roman vs Joe, and people started leaving and chanted "Beat the Traffic!"
Look I'm not saying it would have been good, but maybe if we had let Shane get his way and eliminate Seth the royal rumble would have actually built something instead of the nothing we got
or maybe just don't let shane book the creative specially an important event like Royal Rumble.
I am convinced to this day Shane's elimination being so bad was because he was actually trying to go into business for himself and do that and Brock had to ACTUALLY go "NO! GET OUT!" Because Brock Lesnar eliminations are always beastly, pun intended deal with it, except that one because I legit think Shane was trying to fight him to stay in the entire time and it shows.
@@morgantaylor84I would 100% believe that. Really dumb move to try to sandbag someone like Brock. Shane is lucky he didn’t end up like Bob Holly
No because then you're still getting Shane 😂
It would have built Shane's ego, and there's nothing good with that.
Mine:
-KOTR 95
-Wrestlemania 34
-Backlash 2018
-Crown Jewel 2019
-Summerslam 2007
-Hell In a cell 2010
-Royal Rumble 2015
-Hell in a cell 2019
-Wrestlemania 32
-Stomping Grounds 2019
ah finally someone mentions stomping grounds 2019. or as I like to call it rematch grounds. so hard to take ziggler and corbin serious as serious contenders at that time
I forgot stomping ground exists
Over the Edge 1999, need i say more. The fact the show went on, trumps anything here. Never should have went on, clearly the worst one ever
How did they not mention that one? I just figured it would be #1 on all of their list
For a similar reason, that's why I had 2007 Vengeance: Night of Champions on my list.
Quite shocked there was no KOTR 95 in any of the lists. Good video as always though!
As always --> the order!
Luke --
10- Crown Jewel (2018)
9- Super Showdown (2020)
8- Royal Rumble (2014)
7- Royal Rumble (2022)
6- Battleground (2017)
5- Hell in a Cell (2019)
4- WM 27 (2011)
3- Super Showdown (2019)
2- WM 32 (2016)
1- December to Dismember (2006)
Tempest --
10- Royal Rumble (2022)
9- Super Showdown (2019)
8- WM 11 (1995)
7- Crown Jewel (2018)
6- WM 2 (1986)
5- Super Showdown (2020)
4- The Great American Bash (2004)
3- Royal Rumble (2015)
2- Hell in a Cell (2019)
1- December to Dismember (2006)
Pete --
10- Survivor Series (2021)
9- Table Ladders Chairs (2014)
8- Royal Rumble (2022)
7- Battleground (2013)
6- Crown Jewel (2018)
5- WM 34 (2018)
4- WM 32 (2016)
3- Royal Rumble (2015)
2- December to Dismember (2006)
1- Hell in a Cell (2019)
*Tables Ladders Chairs + Stairs (2014)
I cancelled my wwe network subscription after that 22 Rumble.
I do think the importance of the show makes it so much worse when the show is so so bad. I didn’t Diesel vs Mabel Summerslam, or the 99 Rumble.
Spent $2000 to go to Wrestlemania 32 - not counting the travel expenses to get there. It was a glorified house show. I was devastated.
For those who don't remember for hell in the cell 2019. WWE ran a poll on Twitter asking people how they thought the Hell in a cell match was gonna end and one of the options was DQ and THATS when i knew the tomfoolery that was about to down
Good to see Wrestlemania 34 on this list. I was so furious by the end of that show, I carried it around for days afterwards.
I wasn't mad because i watched takeover new orleans the night before
The final Top 10 based on Borda Count rules (10 points for first, 9 for 2nd, etc.):
1) December To Dismember (29)
2) Hell In A Cell 2019 (25)
3) Royal Rumble 2015 (16)
3) Wrestlemania 32 (16)
5) Crown Jewel 2018 (10)
5) Super Showdown 2019 (10)
7) Super Showdown 2020 (8)
7) Royal Rumble 2022 (8)
9) Great American Bash 2004 (7)
9) Wrestlemania 27 (7)
After the top 8, it got muddled with one-vote nominees, but hey.
This episode of TLC really makes me want the bad wrestling match show back now. I need Luke, Tempest, and Pete reviewing really bad matches again.
"Retirement, re-retirement, come out of Retirement match." I can't even stop laughing!!!😂😂😂
I love this show a lot! When you do your next batch of filming, just a thought if you’d like. On similar list counting shows I watch, when something is on multiple lists they wait to talk about at the highest spot, which allows everyone to share their thoughts without it being repetitive. Just a thought, love the show! Thanks for All the great shows!
I’m sorry Wrestlemania 27 doesn’t have any good on it? Did you just forget Undertaker vs Triple H?
December to Dismember shouldn't be this low. The only issues I hear are that it was poorly advertised, and the wrong guy won the chamber, it is not even close to near the worst, the matches aren't bad, and the chamber is actually kind of good as long as you don't just cry about Punk and RVD losing
I’m ashamed for December to Dismember. It took place in my home town, and they didn’t even come close to selling out the PPV, plus it was a HORRIBLE SHOW! It was the last time Augusta, GA got a live TV product.
Summerslam 2010 not being on here is MAD
the good matches on their Lists:
10. Roman reigns vs Seth Rollins (just for rollins troll entrance) RR 2022
9. Luke Harper vs Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match TLC+S 2014
8. Bray Wyatt vs D-bryan RR 2014
7. The Shield vs The Rhodes BG 2013
6. The New Day vs The Usos BG 2017 (i picked the safe bet)
5. Rollins Vs Balor vs The Miz WM 2018
4. HHH vs Undertaker WM 2011
3. Rollins vs Cena vs Lesnar RR 2015
2. IC Ladder Match WM 2016
1. Becky Lynch vs Sasha Banks HiaC 2019
10. Vengeance 2007
9. Survivor series 2015
8. Over the limit 2011
7. Battleground 2013
6. Bragging rights 2010
5. Royal rumble 2022
4. Backlash 2018
3. Unforgiven 2007
2. December to dismember 2006
1. Crown jewel 2018
Backlash 2018 is the worst ppv I've ever seen. Up there with victory road 2012
I’m actually surprised nobody put invasion (2001) on this list
@@lewisgrant7622 I didn’t watch it I started watching wwe in 2005 and 2007 was pretty rotten and unforgiven pissed me off at age 11 to the point that i stopped watching once John cena got injured from October to January I started watching once I heard Jericho came back but 2007 has a long list of injuries and terrible ppv’s
No way out
Judgment day
One night stand
Vengeance
The great American bash
Summerslam
Unforgiven
Cyber Sunday
And
Armageddon
BEST REACTIONS
Luke: 10:27
Tempest: 12:08
Pete: 13:10
Oli (Cameo): 14:55
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Backlash 2018 was horrible. I fell asleep and I was there.
Things from Wrestlemania 32 I actually Loved
Zack Ryder wins Intercontinental Title
Shawn Michaels, Mick Foley and Stone Cold Steve Austin return
The Brock Lesnar vs Dean Ambrose No Holds Barred Street Fight Match
Undertaker vs Shane McMahon
The Rock wins in 6 seconds and John Cena returns
Roman Reigns spearing Stephanie McMahon
Quite amazing Tempest talked about GAB 04 without mentioning the main event. The Concrete Crypt match, where Undertaker basically murders Paul Bearer :P
I fell of watching wrestling around 2010, because WWE became unmatchable, then I see lists like this and think "wow, they actually managed to get worse for the next 10 years", luckily by the time I started watching again this year WWE mostly got themselves together.
I would love to see you guys do a most boring wrestlers list/most entertaining wrestlers list
Disagree about WM 27 not having a good thing on it Undertaker/HHH is a damn good match
I'm really liking this format! great content guys
Summerslam 95 missing the cut is nuts. It was main evented by Diesel vs Mabel
What I really hate about Royal Rumble 2015 is that the first 15 minutes or so of the men's Rumble is actually really good! We get an early Bubba sighting to pop the crowd with the greatest hits, and we got Bray Wyatt running the show for a little while. Bray vs. Boogeyman was good silly fun, and squashing the other two and giving him mic time in between the eliminations really helped sell him as a threat. And then just as it was about to wear out its welcome, Daniel Bryan comes out to rekindle the feud and it's great!
It's a really strong beginning, and it's honestly kind of impressive just how quickly it all goes downhill.
They even have DDP in it. It's incredible that they screwed it up. Bubba Ray, Boogeyman and DDP in the first 15 entrants, and it all goes downhill from there. I don't think fans would've been mad if Dean ambrose or Dolph won either, so Bryan being eliminated could have been recovered from
I wish they would say the name of PPVs when talking about them, sometimes I get off my chair to go to the kitchen or I just start doing other stuff and listen to the video like a podcast but I've no idea what they're talking about unless they name the events or matches that took place in the PPV
Mania 34 legit was the show that got me to stop watching until this year, simply because of how bad the main event and taker matches were
I've seen this pop up on my feed a lot and didn't really fancy watching.. i can now say after 3 im hooked and catching up on them all 😂 good job lads!
@wrestletalk Idea for TLC; best stipulation (ladder, tables, i quit, HIAC, LMS, ironman) singles matches ever. Then one for multi-man and then tag teams.
Royal rumble 2022 was the closest I’ve come in recent years to giving up WWE.
Same man
Honorable Mentions:
*King of the Ring 1995 a,k,a KING MABEL
*SummerSlam 1995 a.k.a MABEL BREAKS DIESEL'S NOSE
*WrestleMania IX a.k.a THAT'S THE MAIN EVENT.... PUT ME IN... BROTHER!!!
*WrestleMania XV a.k.a The Execution of Big Boss Man
*In Your House: The Great White North 1995 a.k.a MABEL VS YOKOZUNA
*In Your House: D-Generation X 1997
*Fastlane 2017 a.k.a Goldberg squashes KO
*WrestleMania IV a.k.a THE REMATCH ENDED IN A DOUBLE DQ
*Survivor Series 2008 a.k.a Edge and Vickie Guerrero screws Triple H and Jeff Hardy
*In Your House: Beware of Dog 1996
*In Your House: One Night Only (live in the UK) a.k.a DX SCREWS BULLDOG AND ENTIRE BRITISH AUDIENCE
*Capitol Carnage 1998 (UK PPV)
*Capitol Punishment 2011 a.k.a the one with "Fake" Barrack Obama in it
*King of the Ring 1999 a.k.a The Mysterious Control man over the briefcase containing the full control of WWE
*Over the Edge 1999 a.k.a The Horrific Tragedy of Owen Hart
*Survivor Series 2000
*Judgment Day 2001
*Backlash 2002 a.k.a HULKAMANIA IS BACK!!
*Judgment Day 2003
*The Great American Bash 2005 a.k.a UNDERTAKER MURDERS MUHAMMAD HASSAN!! (Thanks uPn)
*SummerSlam 2007
*Breaking Point 2009 a.k.a The Undertaker vs CM Punk submission match controversial finish
*SummerSlam 2010 a.k.a THE BURIAL OF THE NEXUS
*Hell in a Cell 2012 a.k.a BRAD F***ING MADDOX!!!!
*Fastlane 2015
*Extreme Rules 2020: The Pandemic Horror Show a.k.a the FAKE POPPED OUT EYE of Rey Mysterio
*Superstar Spectacle 2021
Mania 32 was the only one Ive ever been too. I found some stuff to love about it here and there but uuuuugh that slog of a main event. I loved Trips' creepy entrance and I found Skull Queen Steph kind of awesome and the good stuff for the whole show ended there. Ugh. At least I got to see the horrible Divas branding and Barbie butterfly belt retired in person.
Backlash 2018 was on my list, surprised nobody said it....garbage show. Also WM9 because F hulk hogan
I hate that The Great American Bash had such low-card matches with Velocity-level superstars like Billy Gunn vs Kenzo Suzuki, Hardcore Holly vs Mordecai, Mark Jindrak vs Scotty 2 Hotty, and Charlie Haas vs Luther Reigns. To prove my point, One of the matches I just mentioned wasn't even on the PPV and was on an episode of Velocity one month later but you don't know which one
Well I know it's not Holly or Haas because Tempest mentioned them... Has to be Gunn vs Suzuki.
@@youngdolo8 Unfortunately, as Tempest would say, that is your first strike 😔
I would a Lists video about great matches at awful PPVs.
Rumble 2022. Oof. I was there. It was worse in person. Had to watch the monitors because they couldn't even get house lighting right. You can hear us begging to turn the lights off
Mania 27 was awful, but at least it had a classic with triple h and taker. But it still had lawler and Cole 😂😂
I'd probably had Backlash 2018 on my list somewhere, that's the show with Joe VS Roman Main Eventing and the crowd turns on it hard. It had a decent Miz VS Rollins opener but the rest of the show sucks.
I was convinced it would show up during their lists, it’s the one big miss from the video imo
I say it every time HiaC 2019 comes up, but the fact that they had 1) The Fiend lose to Seth Rollins in Hell in a Cell the way he did, and 2) Brock Lesnar squash Kofi Kingston for the WWE Title in the same week as (literally days after) the first episode of AEW Dynamite is insane.
It’s like Vince was CONVINCED in his deluded mind that he could put on anything and fans wouldn’t care
It’s like he learned NOTHING from that godawful O’Donnell vs Trump fake match
I mean fans were literally chanting TNA during it and quite a number can be seen WALKING OUT
You should do the top 10 biggest WWE fumbles (either NXT call ups or signings that should have been pushed as stars but ended up being an afterthought)
Backlash 2018? Didnt people visibly leave during the main event to beat the traffic or something?
That show is so forgettable that they most likely forgot the show even existed. But yes it should be on the list.
Im stunned that backlash 2017 or greatest royal rumble didnt appear
To this day, Survivor Series 2021 is arguably the worst PPV/PLE ever( in my personal mention). To have one of the big 4 events be overshadowed by a stupid egg that was there to promote a movie with The Rock in it. And speaking of The Rock, WHERE WAS HE?! Wasn't it Rock's 25th anniversary that year? Cringe battle royal! No Rock appearance! A cringe product tye-in! THE EGG!!!! Worse Survivor Series EVER!
I think y’all just hate Cena because the Cena Orton match at rumble 14 is a good match and they have had a bunch of good matches
Luke's (fine) speech about WrestleMania 27 was incredible. Only note I have is that Punk/Orton and Hunter/Taker were decent to good on that show. But besides that, correct stuff.
I love this show! The video, not any of the PPVs 😂
Really like the premise of sharing each of your personal top tens, small change to the format I would make is using those personal top tens to create a final agrogated list. Gives room to include debate in the discussion, maybe two people disagree on a position and the third must give deciding vote ect. Something similar to the way the match of the day top ten podcast is done, the pretense is create a top ten list but really its just a prompt for a podcast topic.
Since they didn't mention it at the end of the vid, the final results are as follows:
In Third Place with 16 points: it's a tie between Royal Rumble 2015 and WrestleMania 32.
In Second Place with 25 points: Hell in a Cell 2019.
And in First Place with a whopping 29 points: ECW December to Dismember from 2006.
17:53 How sad… I’ve only been to two Royal Rumbles. 2022 and 2012 (the one with the commentary team in it). I want to see a good Royal Rumble live so bad.
21:28 I completely agree Pete. The most destructive show. I have never been able to get over what they did to The Fiend. 😤
Here is mine:
1: Great American Bash 2004
2: Survivor Series 1992
3: Royal Rumble 1995
4: Wrestlemania 27
5: Summerslam 1995
6: King of the Ring 95
7: Wrestlemania 1
8: Wrestlemania 11
9: Royal Rumble 2012
10: In Your House 12: It’s Time
I’m tired of hearing “ not including Nxt takeover “. Do a takeover episode already. Wtf?
List ideas:
Favourite/Best WWE Finishing Moves
Worst WWE Finishing moves
Best WWE themes
Worst WWE themes
Best 'shock' moments
Just a few ideas
I’m 100% with Pete on HIAC 2019. December to Dismember is objectively worse, but HIAC 2019 is more personally insulting. I too was amped for the Fiend, most interested I had been in WWE in a very long time, and they ruined it.
I would put over the edge 1999 on the list purely cause it should not have continued after the Owen Hart Incident.
It was on its way to becoming a great show until that happened
I believe it was actually Vince’s idea to continue the show
@@lewisgrant7622 yeah I’m pretty sure multiple people were telling Vince to stop the show but he refused. I think it was JR who said they never should have continued after that.
@@soulcalaber3 that was honestly typical of Vince. Glad he’s gone
Any word on when/if we're getting more episodes of Worst Match Ever?
I’ve been wondering the same!
@@mirocristianmuniz5059same 😅
How did no one say WM 9
Top 10 Entrance Themes.
When Mania season comes around, you should do a pair of super-sized lists with the 20 best and 20 worst Mania matches of all time (40 matches total, cause it's Mania 40, synergy!)
"There's never been a worse main event than this."
This is before Tempest had seen Cena vs Laurinaitis!
Royal Rumble 2015 top 5? It had arguably the greatest Royal Rumble match ever (triple threat) and the Roman Rumble was HILARIOUS. The crowd escalating more and more is fascinating TV. Pete and Tempest are such babies lol
Editors: More cutaways please. Simpsons, futurama, wrestling clips, etc
To be fair, Wrestlemania 34 wasn't that great.
Damn, You can really feel the seething hatred in Pete's voice when he was talking about his number 1.
2013-2015 WWE killed my passion for Pro Wrestling until I came back watching in 2021 (not them though). I’m pretty sure that i’m never going to feel the necessity to watch a WWE show ever again.
My guy wwe ain't wrestling it's bad sports entertainment bs
Wrestling is outside wwe watch promotions like njpw aew roh tna and soo many more mainly aew and njpw
That's actual wrestling
@@reubenelite at the time I’ve finished WWE I was mostly watching NJPW only. TNA wasn’t my cup of tea and ROH shows were a pain in the ass to watch online
The audacity of Pete to say that TLC 2014 doesn’t have anything good on it when it literally opens with Ziggler and Harper burning the house down is absurd
You should do a TLC on best and worst Spots. Love yall
Hell in a Cell 2019 made me want to quit being a wrestling fan all together. Thank god AEW had coke around because I would’ve left wrestling behind. I LOVED Bray and everything he did, and this f*cking killed me because it was the greatest character work of ALL time and it’s not even close. And they just killed him dead. It still makes me sad