Media Literacy Check: The point of my IG/Cara video isn't that Cara is immune from financial troubles, or that it'll definitely become culturally dominant. It's that small-account growth is non-existent on the big, indestructible social media platforms, and larger creators are either misguidedly or maliciously suggesting we (the small accounts) all stay on them, laboring endlessly to no results despite that. I think we shouldn't be discouraged from trying out sites where we have a better chance of growing and being seen, no matter how long they last. (If you watch the video, you'll have a good understanding of how to migrate a following if that happens.) Better than me sending art post after art post to insta only to have my content thrown in the trash by the algorithm because I didn't get a big enough account on the platform before a certain point in time, or, because I didn't pull in a large enough audience from off-site.
First off lovely art and subbed. Secondly anyone lying about platforms to their fan base does not care about them and should be forgotten. I got hit hard as I am a photographer and artist. Adobe got me good. I still have insta but run everything through nightshade first just to mess with them. I lost my mojo for a bit but I am getting it back and leaning into traditional art again.
I think the main problem I have with popular artists’ talking about Cara is that they misrepresent WHY people, especially smaller artists find the site appealing. The AI issue is only one part of the problem with Instagram. Another issue is the lack of artistic community. Cara is first and foremost an app built with artists in mind, so the dynamic between the people viewing the art and making the art is very different than Instagram. In my mind, Instagram is a marketing platform, and because of this, many of the people viewing your art will engage with it as a product rather than as art. This is advantageous to established artists looking to make money off of their work, but to hobbyists, managing a successful Instagram is probably going to feel like a second job. Cara, on the other hand, because it is an art platform, is opposite in its pros and cons. It is easier to develop actual community in Cara, but less easy to advertise your work as a product. That being said, I don’t fault these artists for wanting to stay at Instagram, but the misinformation and fearmongering is frustrating because you get the feeling that these artists want to be on the winning side of an argument they made up in their heads.
I also believe cara can't produce any profit for Artists because no regular person would like it all it has is art. And if you aren't interested in art you won't see a need for it I also would like some Instagram features
So basically, Instagram = If you want to profit off of art (cons: your art is being fed into Meta's AI) Cara = Purely for art, no shady AIs, close-knitted art community (cons: marketing your art would be a lot harder)
I am switching to Cara personally because A. Every time I've posted on insta my art has been spammed with comments I've had to delete asking to 'post my art' for exposure. B. I have tried posting frequently multiple times and it just has not worked out for me at all. C. Already when I posted my art to Cara I not only got comments actually appreciating my art and the time I took to make it, But the community seems way friendlier to smaller accounts starting out. I am not going to recommend jumping ship to Cara because that should be a personal choice for everyone to make, It's a small community as is and they aren't a big company like Meta. Honestly I find the insta artists being afraid of loosing their followings aren't realizing that Moving/ moved posts exist for this reason. Yes not all of your followers will follow you to a new platform, But if people really wanted to see your art they'd see the moving posts and follow you there.
Thank you for your comment!! Omg, exactly, like, IG doesn't work out for every account, and continuing to pour effort on places where the app doesn't reward your-specific-account back is really draining. 🫠 So it's best for every individual to assess how things are going for them and balance their efforts to the sites that work our for them. And I agree, the people who really, *really* want to see your work will seek out your moving posts and make sure they're following you!
Cool. I have never liked using Instagram for posting my art. Very rarely do I actually get someone saying "hey cool art!". Using IG was never good for my mental health either, as someone who already has history with mental illness it just kept feeding into my fear of not being good enough, because I felt like I got almost zero interaction or anyone even seeing my art. Even when I use maximum amount of tags, even when I've tried the "advice" people say how to use Instagram. None of the advice works... And yes I do think it's because Instagram only promotes the paying customers, and people who already have a big following. I don't think anyone should have to pay to even get any sliver of interaction. That to me feels very wrong... It's so anti-community it just makes me feel depressed. I want people of all skill levels and ages to come together and encourage each other, but I feel like IG does not allow for that to happen naturally. You have to pay or your art is thrown into a void where almost nobody will see it. I don't even care about becoming famous for my art either, but the lack of community and interaction thing is what's the most depressing IMO. It's like omg I worked on this piece for 30 hours and I feel like my art has developed to the next level. I want to show people and see what they think. Instagram: F*ck you, here's 3 bot accounts spamming to showcase your art at their page. If you're lucky you get 1 REAL PERSON commenting.
I'm considering on adding more content and appeal to my portfolio website as I network with anyone i know from Discord Secondly, if i feel ready, I would post my art on different social media platforms made for artist before planning on what to do with Instagram, Twitter and TIktok. I wanted to focus on my personal projects as i feel like I wanted to get started on Inktober. Whatever it might be, I just wanted to network with people on Discord right now or at least accordingly as I'm trying to find a way that I feel content with. On a side note, I would use Cara just to bulletproof my artworks from AI.
On a second side note, I would also recommend on trying out this well known platform known as Newgrounds since it has that Forums feature as they offer community engagement that feels so welcoming from here. Try to branch out to other social media sites as you can but try to keep everything at a minimum.
How do you use it? It wont let me post anything in my portfolio and my art doesn't come up when i look for it in the hashtags i use.. I just downloaded it and its frustrating me
I agree that people are hyping and shitting on Cara at the same time. However, most big artist telling people not to delete their instagram accounts are just letting others know it’s too early in Cara’s career to completely abandon Instagram. Also the only people who are talking about Cara are artist(not all of them) if your using Instagram to potentially pay your bills then jumping ship this early might not be a good idea. Cara is made for artist mainly and networking but a lot of people assumed it was gonna be the next instagram at the time and jumped ship.
Yeah, outside of connecting with other artists and art directors, I feel like only diehard (non-drawing) art enjoyers'll sign up on there. It's definitely an ArtStation or a DeviantArt alternative, but not something that'll be able to fill in for a general site like IG. Potentially something else could fill in, along the road, but, it wouldn't be a bad idea to hold onto one's IG for now, whether they remain active, or change their strategy while they smell out the Meta AI thing.
Anytime TH-cam recommends me video about Cara I just ignore it’s always fear mongering about the “latest” thing in the community. I’ve been on instagram since 2016 it’s never been artist friendly when it comes to finding new people that’s what I use other sites for lol
IG is definitely a not a bad place to bring fans of your work from IRL or other sites to! It's kinda why I don't mind the concept of having mine chugging along slowly in the background, especially as I sniff this Meta AI stuff out. I'm hoping world governments, especially the EU's, will come in clutch.
@@HikaTamika I to was hoping for the bigger guys to show up since this is clearly violation of consent and trust. It's plagiarism as well! But it's not like they care why else would they do this. They also know some artists can't afford to go and get it legally copyrighted at the copyright office. And make enough money to copyright everything they make just to protect us.
@@HikaTamika you can opt out of the scraping in the EU at least (includes UK, despite us being dodos) but I feel like it would be scraped already and it's just new stuff won't be scraped... :/
@@Rj-27You don't have to pay any money to get your work copyrighted. You are granted copyright at the time of creation, meaning as soon as you create an artwork, it's copyrighted.
@@Lissbirds You're right. But there also this. (Pasted from Google) "In the US, you can copyright your artwork by registering it with the Library of Congress Copyright Office. Copyright protects your work from the moment it's created and fixed in a tangible form. However, registering your work can provide additional advantages, such as: Proof of ownership, Ability to sue for copyright infringement, Capacity to demand statutory damages, and An official certificate of registration.". I believe this is what those company's use to protect their work and why they can just sue anybody on the spot.
Cara immediantly made a good impression on me when I downloaded it. There is absolutely no AI art, something I've been *yearning* for on pinterest and diviantart. The art is all by the original creators (unlike pinterest) and *my* art isn't being put into some AI program (like Deviantart)
@@Cardinal_claw Audio uploads would be really helpful! If you have a TH-cam or Vimeo video, those embed properly on Cara. If you only want them on Cara onlyinstead of the TH-cam algorithm, unlisted YT videos work too. 👀✨
"Don't let one app stay your master" -- even though I've scaled back my entire presence online for reasons*, this is SO TRUE AND CHEF'S KISS OF A LINE. For *years* we've known being on at least three platforms at the same time was a-okay! Then idk pandemic brain suddenly went haywire and now suddenly you just have to choose one. Like, w h y. I've seen a good chunk of the comics community just decide to only use Bsky and post jobs on there without even so much as an email as a main or alternative line of communication, and it's like...cool? Thanks for cutting out anyone else not on there, weeee. (Similar thing happened on Twitter and I thought we'd learn but I guess not.) And it's maybe hypocritical of me to really enjoy this video because someone finally said what I and others have been pointing out at times, when I haven't made an account on Cara...but my excuse is that I'm old and tired, haha. (Here's where that * goes.) I already tried the "hustle" once, and I rather would not have the aftermath happen again. I also agree, I could dislike a platform because example, it's VC-funded or something--but misinformation about that platform serves no one either. All it does nowadays is give you engagement for all the wrong reasons. The entire "leave slowly" section is great advice too o/
Naw, I think it's okay to like this video's message even without a Cara account!! Because the way that (overly, harmfully,) bag-protecting IG artists diss Cara is the same way they dissuade/discourage people from trying out other platforms. As a BSky-head, it'd be nicer for people on there to leave contact emails w/ job offers, especially with how well Bridgy is working. Let everyone have a chance to respond.
For what it’s worth I’m a big artist and I hate instagram. I only really use it sporadically to dump new art and run. I like Cara a lot but I just wish Twitter wasn’t slowly dying because that’s really the place for me.
Omg RJ-moment… 😳. I was gonna stop by your table at Fanime and thank you for being a voice for artists amidst all this AI stuff but I got… shy. Nothing beats *peak* Twitter in being a place to converse, grow a community, or broadcast to an existing one. I miss it all the time. Twitter > X 😭
@@HikaTamika I know it's not as busy yet but I'm loving bluesky as the bigger twitter replacement but I am loving Cara for art. We just need people to make a bit more of an effort to swap to them which is hard when money is involved. Slowly posting more on other places and reminding people that you post there first or whatever can help move people too.
Forreal like, happy for them, truly, but I'm gonna direct my effort where I get returns. 😭 It's (personally) not enough for me to focus on IG for their sake.
If I'm being honest with you Cara is one of the only places where Ive gotten more than one like. Because the app is kinda new, your art has more of a chance to be seen
Forreal!! Whenever a new site shows up, it's the best time for artists, especially "small and medium sized" ones to interact with the people around them and form new connections! Whether people move completely, or crosspost to Cara and other sites at the same time.
For me, it's the opposite experience. :/ I feel that artists with a larger fanbase are getting pushed by Cara into people's feeds, even when I've adjusted my settings. I've gotten more attention on Instagram than I ever have on Cara and it's a bit disappointing. The only way to see new work is through the latest feed. 😔
@@begonestink2956 ive noticed that if you like a lot of posts and comment more often, the artists behind those posts will check you out and maybeh hand you a like or two! i've even gotten some followers that way^^ i hope cara does tweak the algorithm, though, as it IS mostly art with over 300 likes. thats a huge threshold lol
@@begonestink2956 yeah, I've also found caras search feature a bit lackluster. They're still new so hopefully they'll improve on it but the friendliest big platform I've been on remains Tumblr lol
I'd love to know what all the lies are about Cara. Personally I think EVERYONE should be concerned about Metas AI image scraping policies. They've already been caught multiple times using people's personal photos in advertising! It's not artists who should be worried, EVERYONE should be worried. The amount of deep fake porn getting made with AI and people's personal Instagram photos is horrific. They REALLY need to rethink their policies on the platform. It's why many left twitter for Blue sky too, it's super fishy what's going on over on Twitter these days.
The Cara lies have mainly been "but but but I heard Cara scrapes too! They give all your work to AI!" even though, there's no proof for it, and the founder fought tooth and nail in court to stop AI-creators from profiting off of her work, *and* AI is not allowed on Cara. Meanwhile Meta is outright saying "yeah, we're putting all your stuff into our AI machine" despite all the selfies and pictures of people's children and stuff 😵💫. We shouldn't let Meta get away with this… we need to call our lawmakers or something 😭 From what I've been reading, Twitter has been feeding all our text into AI in order to power its AI chatbot, but if they start doing images too… 💀💧
I deleted my Instagram and feel euphoric. They shouldnt complain theyll have more money and noteriety for the ones who stay. And well have our ip's and sanity
It's weird because I've never seen any video shitting on Cara ?? Maybe it's because I follow a lot of small artists on TH-cam and the more popular ones that I'm subscribed to never talked about that
Also: Big artists were already getting their stuff stolen by AI before this, by individual NFT bros trying to make a computer copy their style. So in many ways they've somewhat given up. But small artists are reasonably safe from the NFT bros, so the main thing they have to worry about is big corporations like Meta.
I'm going to be honest because I've seen it. Some of these big artists are going on DA taking ideas and designs from small inactive or dead accounts. I used to think traditional artists were the best too until I saw TLK 2 designs from an inactive digital artist account I used to follow in 2015 pop up on a popular artist account now in 2024. I lost respect for many of them. It's heartbreaking because some of those old accounts on there are the only legacy and history of folks that drew their heart out only to have it taken.
"Why should I, 400 follower Joe, stay on a platform that prevents me from growing organically?" I am not an art creator, but I am a youtuber and I feel you so much on that even on this platform TH-cam. That aside: I'm honestly so confused why Instagram is still 'as big' as it is. It's really a relic of the past for me that was cool in 2010-2014 or something? Idk. It got taken over by creeps and companies and it was impossible to just organically connect with people anymore from then on.
I think mainly because of its massive size, and that people *used* to be able to grow on there when it still had recent search, or when Reels were new. And the creators that grow IRL or on another site and bring their followers to IG. The illusion that you can grow by posting is still alive. Add that to the massive user population, especially users that are just there to be where their friends and family are, and people think it's the best choice, but… it's not. (Unless you get extremely lucky, or bring in followers from somewhere else.)
Ive gotten so turned off by social media that i dont really want to hop to another platform anymore. The only places I post my art is my website and patreon. I will show wips and preview pics on my ig stories, thats about it. the mailing list thing is a good idea.
NGL, I feel like having a personal website and a paysite is prolly the most based option because you have the ultimate control over your work that way.
I love Cara, the community is so wholesome. I adore waking up to cute messages from other messages or responses from comments I've left. 😊 I love feeling like a part of a community.
I haven’t been able to make any friends on there :c does anyone have tips for finding other artists on there? The categories are kind of limited and don’t really fit my work.
@@alynakarczmar5797 Honestly, I've just started commenting on or sharing other people's art. That seems to give people courage to reach out, follow and comment on my works too. Sometimes having a small bit of courage helps others.
@@alynakarczmar5797 I've found lots of kind and encouraging people on the Discord :) and over time, as I've left comments and likes on others' posts, I've slowly started to create connections, especially as we visit similar artistic spheres on there. My art is also extremely niche and it's still been quite nice
I feel like it'd be irresponsible of me to call them out and send people their way, but there have been a few TH-camrs with large audiences saying this. I only need one hand to count them though, so that's good.
Tbh most artists on YT rn. Some are like "Don't get too excited guys, but this is a pretty nice alternative rn" and others are like "IT'S SHITt-" Edit: And as a small time artist trying to get some engagement, I will say Cara and Tumblr are a lot more comfortable for me to post on. IDK if it's the format or what but when I was a kid I'd post on Instagram and once I stopped I just...never went back. I feel really supported on Cara. I don't blame some artists for not leaving Instagram but like Hika said if you're not already successful in some way your account is going to look and feel like a ghost town lol
But what is a "big artist" though ? An account with millions of followers, or an artist that is a big name in the art industry ? Because they're (99% of the time) two different profiles. You can live off your art without depending on the number of followers, hence with artist-centered websites and apps have the potential to thrive. As a personal example Instagram and twitter never landed me jobs. Deviantart did back in the day, and irl networking still does to this day.
Nightshade and Glaze were made by college students. Not tech companies. I absolutely agree and even though I’m not getting much traction on Cara either. At least I can post with no issues with ai. Thank you for calling out large artists because it’s so weird they treating us like we weird saying we have “heard mentality” like ultra projection lol.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. No matter what happens, as long as there's art to make, and people to see it, we'll persist wherever works best for us individually! 🫡🎨🖌️
finally! im sick and tired of artists i look up to calling cara an instagram alternative, then when people say that it isnt they are all like well it is just my opinion and i can say and do whatever i want, and is like okay but thats not very responsible is it, its not responsible to spread misinformation just cos you didnt want to do your research. alot of them speak without doing research and it annoys the hell outta me for real. I have been following zemotion for a really long time, the creator and i love what they are doing. I am probably going to fully move over to cara due to my small following on ig i have nothing to loose, big artists can stay on ig but no one will be there anymore when all the smaller artists move somewhere else
I agree!! I think a lot of the problem comes from art-tubers all wanting to be the first person to make a video on the topic, to get a lot of views, abandoning researching entirely 😭. And if they use rumors/misinformation that sound scary, it generates a lot of attention. But they owe it to their audience to tell the truth. 🥺
It's crazy how bad Instagram is for new users. The only people I see on my interactions is people I already know or interacted with on Instagram. Of course, I'm not going to pretend I post much at all or that I'm very good, but that said, I can't even fathom why hashtags don't have a 'view newest' anymore.
Tell me about it. Hald the time my own family members don't like or comment on my stuff, and I know they like it! They're always encouraging me to sell it am whatnot. It has to be because nobody is actually seeing it.
Small elite group of people who benefit greatly even in a terrible enviroment that punishes and exploits everyone else do not represent everyone and shoulnt be treated as some sort of figurehead.
I don't think bigger artists are 'lying' per se. I think it's just less worth it for them to move. Some people are confused what Cara is supposed to be. It's not a direct clone / competitor to Instagram. Cara is more influenced by ArtStation and art Twitter than IG, in my opinion. Also, there are huge artists on Cara. They might not have the highest follower account, but they are famous in the industry for their work.
Yeah a good chunk of them aren't. I made this video after watching three videos and reading a blog post that had a lot of reach and were telling spooky ghost stories about how Cara was secretly on the side of AI. So, the title of the video is really just dedicated to them, specifically. 😅
I had to think about this a lot because I just keep thinking of all the ones we had...but I guess if it lasts long enough and not die like its predecessor, I can see myself (re)joining Sheezyart. It was originally created/intended to be a DA competitor in the first place years ago, so why not :P
The Sheezy revival is so good right now. 😭💜 If I could, I'd cast Infinite Scalability Magic on them right now, so they could just open signups to the public.
Sheezy art, for sure. Even if I am biased. Things feel like they're going strong. The mod team are doing fantastic work, the site is impressively stable, and this isn't even it's final form. The solo dev is working on a website overhaul which should improve it further in so many ways. I've really been enjoying the community that's growing on Sheezy but... I'm not gonna lie, I'm very much looking forward to when we get to see sign ups open up. All in progress, all in good time
Honestly never seen anyone genuinely dislike cara or try to confidently say "it will never work out/ take off". Kinda glad about that lol. Means I'm not being recommended lame ass people lmaooo
I agree with just about all you said. When i saw Cara i knew it wasn't an Instagram but DA/Art Station joined anyways because i like what it is anyways. The last half year I've been seeing nothing from Instagram in terms of growth or even actual eyes from my followers. my best performing post was my announcement I was leaving where it got 30 instead of 12 likes. Instagram might have a more diverse user base but all those people aren't looking for commissioning or other getting art. I can target the other groups better on other sites, even Facebook groups are better for marketing than Instagram has been for awhile.
Late to the party but I personally prefer a small art app that actually cares about its users than an ai app that has little to no respect for artists, sure I don’t get enough exposure right now Cara is new and I’m still learning the ropes, and better yet I feel safe on Cara rather than instagram
I do believe there's a lot of overhyping and slandering of Cara on both sides. Artists big and small are making rash decisions, abandoning their platforms to hopefully find success in another. Meanwhile some people are making false accusations and slanderous statements for their own benefit. Both are bad imo. I'm a smaller artist who started on Cara, but I'm keeping Instagram as my main platform for now. I'm mainly seeing it as an opportunity to broaden my reach. While I'm optimistic about Cara, I also intend to keep fighting within Instagram's system. I stand by fellow creators, moreso than platforms.
Yeah, the extremes in discourse, and the extremes in peoples actions won't get us anywhere. (No matter the side.) Excellent comment. And I think wanting to fight for a better Instagram is a good attitude/spirit to have.
tbh whenever i meet i fellow artists in real life, I've been making sure to tell them about Cara! It's even got me in the mood to actually make art again. It's so nice to just have somewhere to freely post my portfolio, art, and music somewhere without worrying about "engagement" and "how often I post". Posting on Cara is slower but idk, it feels healthier?
I genuinely don’t understand why ai art is so popular. It looks like a knock off brand of other artists styles. Also I absolutely love your art style and may or may not be uppsessed with it!
the only issue i potentially see is that this sort of follower hierarchy will still continue on cara. that larger artists who move there will have their followers find them there too and that they will be the only ones that get traction. im not sure if that would be the case but it makes me hesitant to try the app despite the perks
It's a valid concern. The way things are looking, the accounts that were big elsewhere are having an easier start, but small accounts are liking and commenting on each others' stuff and using the share function to push each-others' art to new people. I think if us smaller people share our followers with each other in that way, it can have an exponential effect and we can grow well too.
It depends. My issue is people will take twitter, Instagram & Blue Sky's lack of reposting & sharing attitudes across with them. It's why Deviant died for me years ago - despite them adding more ways for people to engage, many didn't like feedback and attacked any attempt at it outright turning artists into snobs who only shared their work and not help others on the platform (I am an EX DA senior member & Senior mentor and saw all that first hand - it was awful). Now I'm not expecting big artists to do this, however Cara does this WONDERFUL thing where your Timeline is separate from your folio allowing you to not only post your work where you can show it off and people can veiw it anytime they like, it allows you to SHARE other's work and spread it through the app. If people remember this and use that timeline to share work they find that's cool, interesting, needs love we could have the start of a nice community! Now, I've been around a LONG time, had MANY accounts on various platforms, had art stolen, traced ect... but I've never been a big name artist - more like a very very niche one but many a time I find the issue when jumping ship to anywhere if you're small is when you can't constantly keep using the ones user handle/pen-name. If people loose you, as long as you don't change your user ID moniker people will eventually find you again, wherever you may end up. Those who are your truest fans are the ones who will actively find/seek you out again. Sure they might not be the greatest in number, but numbers shouldn't matter because they cannot tell you who your real fans are. The real ones are ones who comment, or if they're shy, share your work onto thier timeline for more to see. I've had several people I know follow me from DA back in the day over say... 4 platforms? 5 for one very tenacious and wonderful fan. It may not be the thousands people wish their art could reach but those few people who do track me down again are some I treasure deeply and have gotten to know too. Heck I've even done the same with several artists who I've watched grow so much bigger and more spectacular than I could ever be and it fills me with incredible joy watching them grow into amazing creatives. That's what true fans & a true community is like.
@@solarydays That's not true. 🤨 All the icon does is let you use their online glaze service. It (reportedly) doesn't affect you in ranking. cara.app/faq#account-types
Thank you for being the ONLY youtube video in a sea of hundreds to say the actual flipping point of Cara lol. If you look at their IG it says exactly for entertainment industry artist professionals and obviously those who hire them will be interested hence the portfolios. Everyone shitting on it for not being IG is a bit silly bruh
I think the argument that "Cara is made only for artists" isn't the horrible thing it's made out to be. "A site made for artists" is what DeviantArt was, and it had a thriving community until it too screwed over its userbase. I would have stayed on DA regardless, but so many people left that interaction there is now just as abysmal as Instagram. I've been pretty happy with Cara. It took some time for me to start getting interactions, but (as few as it is) I'm already getting more interaction than anywhere else. There's no algorithms (cross fingers "Yet") and organic growth is finally a possibility again there.
I agree. There is meaning in community and networking with other artists. Sharing online doesn't have to be about fans and clients all the time. It's good to grow alongside creative peers.
Instagram algorithm has never been nice to me, i mean yes oc art used to be less popular than fanart on insta when the algorithm was less bad i think (idrk i didnt care very much) but my acc thats been on insta since 2018 has been swinging around 100 follower since forever so i guess it will hurt less to leave for me :')
Whats wild is that they wouldnt even need to restart. Just tell your fan base you're moving ship and a lot will probably follow. But with Cara being new, there's probably no money there
Created a Cara account, haven't done anything on it yet - but its there, ready and waiting just in case Instagram decides to pull off some crazy BS. Gotta have a backup plan.
What kind of "artists" are you following on IG? Most of the artist I follow do have Cara and respect it, having them 10k o 15k followers themselves. But what some had said, and I share the concept, is to not take a complete switch. Cara work for some things IG don't, and IG works for some things that, currently, Cara don't. Therefore, they recommend not ditching one for the other. And most of them agree that, regardless of what SM you choose to engage with, open your own site. This video sounds way more about the so called artist you're following and less about the apps.
The IG artists that said the things that inspired this video, used TH-cam as their platform for saying the things I talked about. Not IG text-on-a-square posts or their stories. On top of that, I didn't even really follow them. It was more of a TH-cam Recommended Bar situation. And yeah, this is a rebuttal video specifically to their *points*. All that said, I fear internet drama and inciting stuff so I don't want to go out and say "[ArtTuber A, ArtTuber B, and ArtTuber C] (by name) were dogging on Cara!!" online, cause doing that anywhere where you garner attention is more or less telling people "sic' em, boys!!" and I don't wanna do that.
Checked a little & the fact that it has job posting on there like in Artstation makes me want to join it. I wanted to wait for the year to end & not get FOMO'ed into this since I'm sick of all the socials I already have as is, but I really am tempted.
I dont trust third party programs to cross post for me lol but inspired me to create a program just like that...and keeo it open source. Im too paranoid if its not a tool i created myself. Welp, time to do some python.
I don't think Cara is going to end up being a good place to SELL art. It will probably be a good place to sell art INSTRUCTION. But not to sell art. I'm not on Cara to sell art, or indeed to sell anything, so this doesn't bother me one bit. I actually LIKE to have one place where I hang out, and another place where I sell things. Because in my experience, my friends that I hang out with not only don't want to buy anything, but they ALSO don't like being reminded that I sell things. They don't want to hang out on a sales floor surrounded by ads and promos. And I get it.
I've been on Cara for only a few weeks and I've interacted with so many artists in such a sort timeframe and have gotten so much more healthy engagement from artists because the community is just so welcoming and genuinely so nice, i actually got whiplash from the better quality of treatment. Cara, all the way, no questions asked!
Personally I don't see any major benefits left other than marketing on most social media sites, like Insta. They're pretty hell bent on taking your art or letting thieves do it or laying creatives in general in the bottom of the algorithms. I don't blame people for jumping ship.
I am not bothered by AI-„Art“ anymore but my followers and friends are migrating to Cara, my idols too. So I‘m slowly going there as well, not leaving completely but I’ll have to join other platforms as well.
I’ve been debating on starting posting my art and I think I’m going to try cara. Currently working on an attempt at digital painting lol. Just hope I can shade the hair 😢
I have to say that I see Cara as having a good future, in one hand because it is what artists have wanted for a long time, on the other I see it, in the future and with more updates, as an app for "truly" creative minds (music , voice actors, animetion, sculptors, photographers, maybe models too, I say this because of the portfolio option) and maybe it will open the doors for more "indirect" collaboration options. Ex: If they would allow us to add a voice or music to a post , that it is created and published by someone from the app itself, and that credits and a link to the profile appear in our post (also if the person don't want this, I would add an option in the configuration that activates or deactivates this). In my case I have not made a profile yet, although I am interested, but I want to wait a while and see how the app goes. Since I want to upload various comics from different fandoms and I don't know if the app would do that well, in addition to how to organize it, I know that there are hagstags (PD: Love that they are well funtional
Thank you! You're so kind! And no need to apologize. Tumblr is very good at handling different types of media, and I hope Cara can do the same in the feature. Tumblr has a new Communities feature that seems interesting. You can share posts you've made on tumblr to themed communities, like musician communities and stuff. I hope people will try it.
@@HikaTamikaFirst, you're welcome! and it's nothing, be kind, I think it's important to express your ideas and opinions respectfully. TRUE!! I admit that I forget about communities, but I remember, I think, that a week ago Tumbler made a post about giving more people the opportunity to have one!! That's how users seem to like it. But this makes me think of something, which makes me see Cara = Tumbler (not 100%, but more like Cara is, perhaps, going on the right path) and is that the attention of the developers or programmers? (those who maintain the app) On Tumbler they have an account where they sometimes post about updates and BUG FIXES (big and small), and things that come up, and on Cara they listen very well to people's opinions to make applications better or more focused on their audience, the reason why they both feel closer and warmer? the thing they have and fell the human care for the joy of the users, make them really cool Another thing that I also think about is the opportunity for the art community; I mean a NEW space for interaction, which allows users to be able to give precisely those opinions or constructive advice as a bases, which seems wonderful to me and I feel (maybe this beging too much, but important) that as users we need to "protect" or rather maintain, remember the why?, because in this way we can create A mutual learning space; And if you don't like advice (especially kinds and respecfully ones), don't respond reluctantly. It's an advice, you can either read it and take it in mind or not and leave it.
i quit being content maker because I feel so much happier of not being content maker and I feel so much happier of myself not sharin my content anymore
Instas love for reels at the cost of the functionality of normal posts, plus the tags not working at all at random posts no matter what I do drove me away from insta way before insta pulled this crap
Ilu 400 follower joe glad to be one of your 400 joe enjoyers 😤✊ Jokes aside you are, as always, so wise and observant about the experiences of smaller/growing artists. NO NOTES, 10/10!!!
I was gonna go off on you in defense of larger artists, because I do believe just because an artist is bigger (no matter their platform), it doesn't always mean they're not struggling either. However as I kept watching, you were mainly talking about Instagram artists so, yeah, I've seen some terrible behavior on there xD POP OFF ~
Heehee 😆. And it's not even all of them, I'm just 🤨🤨🤨 at the ones like "👻ooooh what if Cara is secretly eeeviiiilll!! Don't go there! It's never gonna maaaaake ittttt~ 👻" like if people don't mind posting art on an additional app just let 'em! 😭
@@HikaTamikahonestly, the fake rumor spreading is what kills me the most, I’ve definitely heard that rumor about Cara using art to farm for AI around before. Also you mentioning Cara was supposed to be an alternative to art station totally cleared stuff up for me, that makes a lot of sense- Anyways, super insightful video! Thanks so much for speaking your opinion on the matter 🥰✨
Comment for the Algorithm: Gouache is a water-soluble, opaque paint that's made from pigments, gum arabic, and water. The term originated in France in the 18th century. Gouache is similar to watercolor, but it contains more binder and white pigment to make it opaque and prevent the paper's white surface from showing through. The paint's heavy pigment load and reduced binder content leave behind almost pure pigment when dry, held together by just enough binder.
I'm not even starting am art account on IG bc i can't draw and post that often. And i can't post just a sketch, study - it has to be completed to be interesting. Well, i'm going to draw merch to survive and i will use IG for merchandising... With the photos of the products, not with my art. For example, photos of stickers in my hand, pins etc etc. You physically can't copy the art such a little size? If you can, you're going to have troubles with everyone selling things on IG. It's like "you payed a designer to make that packaging looks great, so we're stealing that. Meet our new Ai replacing marketing designers and you as well". As for me, that Ai boom is so stupid in its shortsightedness... It is said to be a win-win, but all it does is threatening more and more people to ruin their jobs and human to human trust.
Instagram and facebook feed user's data to train their AI. So if artist using Instagram to sharing artwork without protection again AI thief, it's basically a suicide action for his art career.
Big artists need people to stay on ig because they’ve already curated their mega followers. So it’s a detriment to them when people leave the platform. Their numbers will dwindle and there a risk that they would have to rebuild their audience once again on another platform.
Im finding quite a few of the larger more experienced artists i follow on cara. They all moved there much more willingly than bluesky. Which im sad about.
Me too. BSky feels better for shorter thoughts, more casual thoughts and updates than Cara's text posts. And, there's a non-artist audience on it. I hope people'll use both, like we used to use both Twitter and DeviantArt. My BlueSky experience is super fun and lively, so it makes me wonder why some artists ignore it. Maybe after video gets added more people'll come!
I havent been watching much videos on Cara but i watched one where an artist said that Cara is run by a small team and itd be difficult for the team that are freelancers to try and keep the site up and keep up with the bugs and updates. These big artist could be trying to gatekeep but also we cant keep pushing a lot of traffic to that website its a small team
Awesome video with a lot of really good points, especially for smaller creators. I'm loving Cara so far - it really feels a lot more community minded. And I think being for artists first and foremost helps with that because we're all kind of there for the same stuff; appreciating one another's works. There's so much great stuff on there.
Thank you for talking about this, I feel like a lot of artists are hopping on the bandwagon that “cara will end up like all the others” because it’s easier to not move platforms and not get your hopes up than it is to just put a speck of faith into a growing art community that actually cares about its users. It’s really sad to hear people dismissing Cara when they havent even tried it
I've never really downloaded Instagram. I'm a younger artist as well. Is it recommended that I download Cara and post there, even if it's not the greatest in the world? The community seems nice 4 the most part! :)
I'd recommend it! Post in, and search for hashtags relevant to you so you can find other artists in your niche, and engage w/ em! Some might become future friends.
As someone who never gets likes anywhere, I also have absolutely no followers or likes on Cara. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but I don’t get why no one actually sees my stuff. I have no idea how or why.
I disagree that the reason big artists are saying Cara won't work is to manipulate the public for their own gain at the expense of smaller artists, because they already have their followers and don't want to lose them. I think people in general are just tired of hearing everyone saying "jump ship" and nothing ever sticks. And they're voicing their own cynical opinions. Big artists are just people, and they are susceptible to misinformation the same as anyone else. This is also an age where people can't bother to fact check and just accept any rumor they hear. Still, this video is extremely important and I'm so glad you made it, and so glad the algorithm seems to be pushing it out. Artists really need to diversify, and Cara sounds like a great place made for artists by artists, and smaller artists might have a better chance too if they don't have to fight the algorithm every step, that is a really good thing to point out. Sure, it's small, it looks a bit vulnerable, but every site has to start somewhere, and this one is starting strong actually! Also thank you for clearing up the misinformation about Cara, Nightshade and Glaze, and encouraging people to use them. And great note at the end about how migrating to a new website can absolutely be a slow process, and you don't have to abandon everything you had 100%. Very important video, thank you!
Thank *you*! For your insightful comment and for watching! It means a lot. I don't want small artists to miss out on new connections they can forge without having to battle small-artist-unfriendly algorithms. 🙏💜
Thanks for the video. I also have a small account but I have become more uncomfortable with both IG and Twitter. Unfortunately, much of the discourse has seem to conclude that there is nowhere else for artist to go, but I like the ideas you mentioned in the video. Definitely might try out Cara and even Tumblr again just see what works for me. Also your character is super cute!!!
Thanks so much! And good luck out there! It might be a bunch of comparatively small sites until one starts to look big and stable enough. Some of those small ones include Artfol, the SheezyArt Revival, and BlueSky
Thank you so much for the list in terms of protecting art. I may not post art rn but if i do decide to start in the future, I have the necessary steps to take and how to take them, I do have some friends who do so I plan to share the list and programs with all of them as well!
This was a great vid! I’m glad someone’s calling out the bigger creators on instagram/youtube. I think it’s telling that a lot of creators in the IG art community engage in trends that ask for more followers (“lets be art moots/follow and I’ll follow back” or the dreaded “reduce your expectations to 0” when they already have thousands of followers 💀💀) only to not support smaller artists and then they pretend that Cara is somehow going to sabotage everyone. Make no mistake these large creators benefit from you staying on IG, and they’re not actually looking out for the art community as a whole.
😂🤝 Omg the "reduce your expectations to 0" plague, lol… One of the worst trends on there. Thank you for your comment! I wish larger creators would think more about the wellbeing of the whole community compared to what's working best for them. Especially when the opportunities and algorithms aren't the same anymore.
Thank you for talking about this, I don’t mind being a smaller creator atm but seeing how the current social media landscapes treats artists is incredibly disheartening and discouraging and I’d like to see bigger artists AT LEAST give Cara a chance before dismissing it altogether
What? I'm surprised by both this video and the comments. All the big (or otherwise) artists i follow are mega into Cara. The only thing they ever really say against it is more like "I understand that a lot of people won't make the switch because they've already built a following that they rely on on Instagram" that and if you're trying to reach non-artists then platforms like Twitter and instagram are seemingly more appealing even if they aren't artist-friendly platforms. Had no idea there was anti-Cara corporate shilling going on. Idk how i missed it 😂
thought I'd try insta when I wanted to get back into posting my art... yeah no. either i got no engagement, or too much (bad) engagement (like the ragebait instagram humor people or other nonartists critiquing me and people demanding I post proof that the art was mine). instagram is not easy to grow on, especially now. :(
I'm sorry that's happened to you… the strangers randomly demanding timelapses and stuff as proof is probably my least favorite thing about posting art online recently. 😞💔
Well if people do followed you for your arts then it's not too difficult to restart in Cara. Me personally, nobody give a damn about my art the last 10 years so when I go to Cara, I barely have any one to bat an eye at my works. But at the same time I also... don't care? I still post on IG and Cara at the same time, I'm at the point of not really care about what going to happen anymore. I accepted my failure as an artist, and just vibing. So I do think it's good to just using both at the same time and over time, slowly decide to drop IG if Cara is working out for you!
Ohmigosh, thank you! 🙇💜 I'll keep trying TH-cam out! I've been blown away with the reception to this video and I'm amazed at how talking over some art footage is all I had to do. (I was worried that maybe I should have had more visual edits throughout the whole video)
As my instra act go to nowhere and those who follow me isy friend or someone I know. I can just instantly jump to Cara no sweat. But with all the problem the creator currently have, I wanna see if the direction gonna go up or down
Just checked out your art gallery. Your art is outstanding and also thank you so much for supporting a free Palestine! Love to see creators use their art for good. ❤
Oh my gosh, thank you! Of course! I wanted to join in on the "draw your fave with the flag" meme, but, I'm always attached to my original characters, so I ended up drawing one of them instead. 😅🍉
I mean honestly for me honestly I gave up all of it yeah I do have Cara how do you put something on there yeah my devinatart art account is still there My overall I kind of gave up on Twitter and Instagram when it came to my artwork.
Thank you for this video. Like the amount of random Cara hate is getting ridiculous. When I first saw it, I always thought that it was suppose to be similar to art station not instagram. But people keep trying to compare the two. I’m not posting on there yet because my art isn’t that polish but I’m going to give Artfol and Bluesky another try and also will start glazing.
Media Literacy Check: The point of my IG/Cara video isn't that Cara is immune from financial troubles, or that it'll definitely become culturally dominant. It's that small-account growth is non-existent on the big, indestructible social media platforms, and larger creators are either misguidedly or maliciously suggesting we (the small accounts) all stay on them, laboring endlessly to no results despite that.
I think we shouldn't be discouraged from trying out sites where we have a better chance of growing and being seen, no matter how long they last. (If you watch the video, you'll have a good understanding of how to migrate a following if that happens.) Better than me sending art post after art post to insta only to have my content thrown in the trash by the algorithm because I didn't get a big enough account on the platform before a certain point in time, or, because I didn't pull in a large enough audience from off-site.
First off lovely art and subbed. Secondly anyone lying about platforms to their fan base does not care about them and should be forgotten. I got hit hard as I am a photographer and artist. Adobe got me good. I still have insta but run everything through nightshade first just to mess with them. I lost my mojo for a bit but I am getting it back and leaning into traditional art again.
I think the main problem I have with popular artists’ talking about Cara is that they misrepresent WHY people, especially smaller artists find the site appealing. The AI issue is only one part of the problem with Instagram. Another issue is the lack of artistic community. Cara is first and foremost an app built with artists in mind, so the dynamic between the people viewing the art and making the art is very different than Instagram. In my mind, Instagram is a marketing platform, and because of this, many of the people viewing your art will engage with it as a product rather than as art. This is advantageous to established artists looking to make money off of their work, but to hobbyists, managing a successful Instagram is probably going to feel like a second job. Cara, on the other hand, because it is an art platform, is opposite in its pros and cons. It is easier to develop actual community in Cara, but less easy to advertise your work as a product. That being said, I don’t fault these artists for wanting to stay at Instagram, but the misinformation and fearmongering is frustrating because you get the feeling that these artists want to be on the winning side of an argument they made up in their heads.
Omg extremely well-put. Thank you!
I also believe cara can't produce any profit for Artists because no regular person would like it all it has is art. And if you aren't interested in art you won't see a need for it I also would like some Instagram features
Cara also has job opportunities
@@DreamiMushoif you like art you can install it
So basically,
Instagram = If you want to profit off of art
(cons: your art is being fed into Meta's AI)
Cara = Purely for art, no shady AIs, close-knitted art community
(cons: marketing your art would be a lot harder)
I am switching to Cara personally because A. Every time I've posted on insta my art has been spammed with comments I've had to delete asking to 'post my art' for exposure. B. I have tried posting frequently multiple times and it just has not worked out for me at all. C. Already when I posted my art to Cara I not only got comments actually appreciating my art and the time I took to make it, But the community seems way friendlier to smaller accounts starting out.
I am not going to recommend jumping ship to Cara because that should be a personal choice for everyone to make, It's a small community as is and they aren't a big company like Meta.
Honestly I find the insta artists being afraid of loosing their followings aren't realizing that Moving/ moved posts exist for this reason. Yes not all of your followers will follow you to a new platform, But if people really wanted to see your art they'd see the moving posts and follow you there.
Thank you for your comment!! Omg, exactly, like, IG doesn't work out for every account, and continuing to pour effort on places where the app doesn't reward your-specific-account back is really draining. 🫠 So it's best for every individual to assess how things are going for them and balance their efforts to the sites that work our for them.
And I agree, the people who really, *really* want to see your work will seek out your moving posts and make sure they're following you!
Cool. I have never liked using Instagram for posting my art. Very rarely do I actually get someone saying "hey cool art!". Using IG was never good for my mental health either, as someone who already has history with mental illness it just kept feeding into my fear of not being good enough, because I felt like I got almost zero interaction or anyone even seeing my art. Even when I use maximum amount of tags, even when I've tried the "advice" people say how to use Instagram. None of the advice works... And yes I do think it's because Instagram only promotes the paying customers, and people who already have a big following. I don't think anyone should have to pay to even get any sliver of interaction. That to me feels very wrong... It's so anti-community it just makes me feel depressed. I want people of all skill levels and ages to come together and encourage each other, but I feel like IG does not allow for that to happen naturally. You have to pay or your art is thrown into a void where almost nobody will see it. I don't even care about becoming famous for my art either, but the lack of community and interaction thing is what's the most depressing IMO. It's like omg I worked on this piece for 30 hours and I feel like my art has developed to the next level. I want to show people and see what they think. Instagram: F*ck you, here's 3 bot accounts spamming to showcase your art at their page. If you're lucky you get 1 REAL PERSON commenting.
I'm considering on adding more content and appeal to my portfolio website as I network with anyone i know from Discord
Secondly, if i feel ready, I would post my art on different social media platforms made for artist before planning on what to do with Instagram, Twitter and TIktok.
I wanted to focus on my personal projects as i feel like I wanted to get started on Inktober.
Whatever it might be, I just wanted to network with people on Discord right now or at least accordingly as I'm trying to find a way that I feel content with.
On a side note, I would use Cara just to bulletproof my artworks from AI.
On a second side note, I would also recommend on trying out this well known platform known as Newgrounds since it has that Forums feature as they offer community engagement that feels so welcoming from here.
Try to branch out to other social media sites as you can but try to keep everything at a minimum.
How do you use it? It wont let me post anything in my portfolio and my art doesn't come up when i look for it in the hashtags i use..
I just downloaded it and its frustrating me
I agree that people are hyping and shitting on Cara at the same time. However, most big artist telling people not to delete their instagram accounts are just letting others know it’s too early in Cara’s career to completely abandon Instagram.
Also the only people who are talking about Cara are artist(not all of them) if your using Instagram to potentially pay your bills then jumping ship this early might not be a good idea.
Cara is made for artist mainly and networking but a lot of people assumed it was gonna be the next instagram at the time and jumped ship.
Yeah, outside of connecting with other artists and art directors, I feel like only diehard (non-drawing) art enjoyers'll sign up on there. It's definitely an ArtStation or a DeviantArt alternative, but not something that'll be able to fill in for a general site like IG. Potentially something else could fill in, along the road, but, it wouldn't be a bad idea to hold onto one's IG for now, whether they remain active, or change their strategy while they smell out the Meta AI thing.
Isn’t art station specifically only artists? Haven’t a shit load of ppl found professional jobs through it?
Anytime TH-cam recommends me video about Cara I just ignore it’s always fear mongering about the “latest” thing in the community. I’ve been on instagram since 2016 it’s never been artist friendly when it comes to finding new people that’s what I use other sites for lol
IG is definitely a not a bad place to bring fans of your work from IRL or other sites to! It's kinda why I don't mind the concept of having mine chugging along slowly in the background, especially as I sniff this Meta AI stuff out. I'm hoping world governments, especially the EU's, will come in clutch.
@@HikaTamika I to was hoping for the bigger guys to show up since this is clearly violation of consent and trust. It's plagiarism as well!
But it's not like they care why else would they do this. They also know some artists can't afford to go and get it legally copyrighted at the copyright office. And make enough money to copyright everything they make just to protect us.
@@HikaTamika you can opt out of the scraping in the EU at least (includes UK, despite us being dodos) but I feel like it would be scraped already and it's just new stuff won't be scraped... :/
@@Rj-27You don't have to pay any money to get your work copyrighted. You are granted copyright at the time of creation, meaning as soon as you create an artwork, it's copyrighted.
@@Lissbirds You're right. But there also this. (Pasted from Google)
"In the US, you can copyright your artwork by registering it with the Library of Congress Copyright Office. Copyright protects your work from the moment it's created and fixed in a tangible form. However, registering your work can provide additional advantages, such as: Proof of ownership, Ability to sue for copyright infringement, Capacity to demand statutory damages, and An official certificate of registration.".
I believe this is what those company's use to protect their work and why they can just sue anybody on the spot.
Cara immediantly made a good impression on me when I downloaded it.
There is absolutely no AI art, something I've been *yearning* for on pinterest and diviantart. The art is all by the original creators (unlike pinterest) and *my* art isn't being put into some AI program (like Deviantart)
It's a great place to be inspired and feel confident that anything you found hasn't been blended and microwaved from stolen stuff. 😭💜
same 😊😊no ai, not much worry of “am i sure this is actually real?” i got mutual friends really quick too, they were lovely to chat with !!❤
I'm hoping they add things to play music for animators too
@@Cardinal_claw Audio uploads would be really helpful! If you have a TH-cam or Vimeo video, those embed properly on Cara. If you only want them on Cara onlyinstead of the TH-cam algorithm, unlisted YT videos work too. 👀✨
"Don't let one app stay your master" -- even though I've scaled back my entire presence online for reasons*, this is SO TRUE AND CHEF'S KISS OF A LINE. For *years* we've known being on at least three platforms at the same time was a-okay! Then idk pandemic brain suddenly went haywire and now suddenly you just have to choose one. Like, w h y. I've seen a good chunk of the comics community just decide to only use Bsky and post jobs on there without even so much as an email as a main or alternative line of communication, and it's like...cool? Thanks for cutting out anyone else not on there, weeee. (Similar thing happened on Twitter and I thought we'd learn but I guess not.)
And it's maybe hypocritical of me to really enjoy this video because someone finally said what I and others have been pointing out at times, when I haven't made an account on Cara...but my excuse is that I'm old and tired, haha. (Here's where that * goes.) I already tried the "hustle" once, and I rather would not have the aftermath happen again. I also agree, I could dislike a platform because example, it's VC-funded or something--but misinformation about that platform serves no one either. All it does nowadays is give you engagement for all the wrong reasons.
The entire "leave slowly" section is great advice too o/
Naw, I think it's okay to like this video's message even without a Cara account!! Because the way that (overly, harmfully,) bag-protecting IG artists diss Cara is the same way they dissuade/discourage people from trying out other platforms.
As a BSky-head, it'd be nicer for people on there to leave contact emails w/ job offers, especially with how well Bridgy is working. Let everyone have a chance to respond.
For what it’s worth I’m a big artist and I hate instagram. I only really use it sporadically to dump new art and run. I like Cara a lot but I just wish Twitter wasn’t slowly dying because that’s really the place for me.
Omg RJ-moment… 😳. I was gonna stop by your table at Fanime and thank you for being a voice for artists amidst all this AI stuff but I got… shy.
Nothing beats *peak* Twitter in being a place to converse, grow a community, or broadcast to an existing one. I miss it all the time. Twitter > X 😭
Hey RJ!
@@HikaTamika I know it's not as busy yet but I'm loving bluesky as the bigger twitter replacement but I am loving Cara for art. We just need people to make a bit more of an effort to swap to them which is hard when money is involved. Slowly posting more on other places and reminding people that you post there first or whatever can help move people too.
@@Runzi333 I like BlueSky a lot too! It's honestly my personal favorite 😳
Yeah it feels like a cult to hate cara and make ppl to stay on ig, well sorry that ain't happening 😌
Forreal like, happy for them, truly, but I'm gonna direct my effort where I get returns. 😭 It's (personally) not enough for me to focus on IG for their sake.
If the established biggos hate it, I'm going there.
If I'm being honest with you Cara is one of the only places where Ive gotten more than one like. Because the app is kinda new, your art has more of a chance to be seen
Forreal!! Whenever a new site shows up, it's the best time for artists, especially "small and medium sized" ones to interact with the people around them and form new connections! Whether people move completely, or crosspost to Cara and other sites at the same time.
For me, it's the opposite experience. :/ I feel that artists with a larger fanbase are getting pushed by Cara into people's feeds, even when I've adjusted my settings. I've gotten more attention on Instagram than I ever have on Cara and it's a bit disappointing. The only way to see new work is through the latest feed. 😔
@@begonestink2956 ive noticed that if you like a lot of posts and comment more often, the artists behind those posts will check you out and maybeh
hand you a like or two! i've even gotten some followers that way^^
i hope cara does tweak the algorithm, though, as it IS mostly art with over 300 likes. thats a huge threshold lol
@@begonestink2956 yeah, I've also found caras search feature a bit lackluster. They're still new so hopefully they'll improve on it but the friendliest big platform I've been on remains Tumblr lol
Same!! :D
I'd love to know what all the lies are about Cara. Personally I think EVERYONE should be concerned about Metas AI image scraping policies. They've already been caught multiple times using people's personal photos in advertising! It's not artists who should be worried, EVERYONE should be worried. The amount of deep fake porn getting made with AI and people's personal Instagram photos is horrific. They REALLY need to rethink their policies on the platform. It's why many left twitter for Blue sky too, it's super fishy what's going on over on Twitter these days.
The Cara lies have mainly been "but but but I heard Cara scrapes too! They give all your work to AI!" even though, there's no proof for it, and the founder fought tooth and nail in court to stop AI-creators from profiting off of her work, *and* AI is not allowed on Cara.
Meanwhile Meta is outright saying "yeah, we're putting all your stuff into our AI machine" despite all the selfies and pictures of people's children and stuff 😵💫. We shouldn't let Meta get away with this… we need to call our lawmakers or something 😭
From what I've been reading, Twitter has been feeding all our text into AI in order to power its AI chatbot, but if they start doing images too… 💀💧
Chileee, I didn't even think about deepfakes.
This is so worrying omg
I deleted my Instagram and feel euphoric. They shouldnt complain theyll have more money and noteriety for the ones who stay. And well have our ip's and sanity
It's weird because I've never seen any video shitting on Cara ?? Maybe it's because I follow a lot of small artists on TH-cam and the more popular ones that I'm subscribed to never talked about that
The algorithm knows I am a simple and easily stimulated creature… (I am not immune to artists in my recommended bar) 😂😭
Also: Big artists were already getting their stuff stolen by AI before this, by individual NFT bros trying to make a computer copy their style. So in many ways they've somewhat given up. But small artists are reasonably safe from the NFT bros, so the main thing they have to worry about is big corporations like Meta.
I'm going to be honest because I've seen it. Some of these big artists are going on DA taking ideas and designs from small inactive or dead accounts. I used to think traditional artists were the best too until I saw TLK 2 designs from an inactive digital artist account I used to follow in 2015 pop up on a popular artist account now in 2024. I lost respect for many of them. It's heartbreaking because some of those old accounts on there are the only legacy and history of folks that drew their heart out only to have it taken.
"Why should I, 400 follower Joe, stay on a platform that prevents me from growing organically?" I am not an art creator, but I am a youtuber and I feel you so much on that even on this platform TH-cam. That aside: I'm honestly so confused why Instagram is still 'as big' as it is. It's really a relic of the past for me that was cool in 2010-2014 or something? Idk. It got taken over by creeps and companies and it was impossible to just organically connect with people anymore from then on.
I think mainly because of its massive size, and that people *used* to be able to grow on there when it still had recent search, or when Reels were new. And the creators that grow IRL or on another site and bring their followers to IG.
The illusion that you can grow by posting is still alive.
Add that to the massive user population, especially users that are just there to be where their friends and family are, and people think it's the best choice, but… it's not. (Unless you get extremely lucky, or bring in followers from somewhere else.)
Ive gotten so turned off by social media that i dont really want to hop to another platform anymore. The only places I post my art is my website and patreon. I will show wips and preview pics on my ig stories, thats about it. the mailing list thing is a good idea.
NGL, I feel like having a personal website and a paysite is prolly the most based option because you have the ultimate control over your work that way.
I love Cara, the community is so wholesome. I adore waking up to cute messages from other messages or responses from comments I've left. 😊 I love feeling like a part of a community.
The feeling of community and fellowship is no joke the best part of any online-social experience. Better than raw numbers even.
I haven’t been able to make any friends on there :c does anyone have tips for finding other artists on there? The categories are kind of limited and don’t really fit my work.
@@alynakarczmar5797 Honestly, I've just started commenting on or sharing other people's art. That seems to give people courage to reach out, follow and comment on my works too.
Sometimes having a small bit of courage helps others.
@@HikaTamika Absolutely! It's so lovely to find genuine support.
@@alynakarczmar5797 I've found lots of kind and encouraging people on the Discord :) and over time, as I've left comments and likes on others' posts, I've slowly started to create connections, especially as we visit similar artistic spheres on there. My art is also extremely niche and it's still been quite nice
Tbh... What artists have been saying this? Literally everyone I've heard is abandoning Insta for Cara
I feel like it'd be irresponsible of me to call them out and send people their way, but there have been a few TH-camrs with large audiences saying this. I only need one hand to count them though, so that's good.
Every artist TH-camr has been. Like the thumbnails are all fear mongering saying
Cara the instagram killer?” Just to say they would never switch over
Tbh most artists on YT rn. Some are like "Don't get too excited guys, but this is a pretty nice alternative rn" and others are like "IT'S SHITt-"
Edit: And as a small time artist trying to get some engagement, I will say Cara and Tumblr are a lot more comfortable for me to post on. IDK if it's the format or what but when I was a kid I'd post on Instagram and once I stopped I just...never went back. I feel really supported on Cara. I don't blame some artists for not leaving Instagram but like Hika said if you're not already successful in some way your account is going to look and feel like a ghost town lol
But what is a "big artist" though ? An account with millions of followers, or an artist that is a big name in the art industry ? Because they're (99% of the time) two different profiles. You can live off your art without depending on the number of followers, hence with artist-centered websites and apps have the potential to thrive.
As a personal example Instagram and twitter never landed me jobs. Deviantart did back in the day, and irl networking still does to this day.
Nightshade and Glaze were made by college students. Not tech companies. I absolutely agree and even though I’m not getting much traction on Cara either. At least I can post with no issues with ai. Thank you for calling out large artists because it’s so weird they treating us like we weird saying we have “heard mentality” like ultra projection lol.
I really like this video its not all "end of the world" energy and its reassuring, thanks for making this.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. No matter what happens, as long as there's art to make, and people to see it, we'll persist wherever works best for us individually! 🫡🎨🖌️
finally! im sick and tired of artists i look up to calling cara an instagram alternative, then when people say that it isnt they are all like well it is just my opinion and i can say and do whatever i want, and is like okay but thats not very responsible is it, its not responsible to spread misinformation just cos you didnt want to do your research. alot of them speak without doing research and it annoys the hell outta me for real. I have been following zemotion for a really long time, the creator and i love what they are doing. I am probably going to fully move over to cara due to my small following on ig i have nothing to loose, big artists can stay on ig but no one will be there anymore when all the smaller artists move somewhere else
I agree!! I think a lot of the problem comes from art-tubers all wanting to be the first person to make a video on the topic, to get a lot of views, abandoning researching entirely 😭. And if they use rumors/misinformation that sound scary, it generates a lot of attention. But they owe it to their audience to tell the truth. 🥺
It's crazy how bad Instagram is for new users. The only people I see on my interactions is people I already know or interacted with on Instagram. Of course, I'm not going to pretend I post much at all or that I'm very good, but that said, I can't even fathom why hashtags don't have a 'view newest' anymore.
View newest would literally change growth for the better if they brought it back 😭
Tell me about it. Hald the time my own family members don't like or comment on my stuff, and I know they like it! They're always encouraging me to sell it am whatnot. It has to be because nobody is actually seeing it.
Small elite group of people who benefit greatly even in a terrible enviroment that punishes and exploits everyone else do not represent everyone and shoulnt be treated as some sort of figurehead.
I don't think bigger artists are 'lying' per se. I think it's just less worth it for them to move. Some people are confused what Cara is supposed to be. It's not a direct clone / competitor to Instagram. Cara is more influenced by ArtStation and art Twitter than IG, in my opinion. Also, there are huge artists on Cara. They might not have the highest follower account, but they are famous in the industry for their work.
Yeah a good chunk of them aren't. I made this video after watching three videos and reading a blog post that had a lot of reach and were telling spooky ghost stories about how Cara was secretly on the side of AI. So, the title of the video is really just dedicated to them, specifically. 😅
Y'know what, if you could magically make one non-IG site/platform super popular, which would it be and why?
I had to think about this a lot because I just keep thinking of all the ones we had...but I guess if it lasts long enough and not die like its predecessor, I can see myself (re)joining Sheezyart. It was originally created/intended to be a DA competitor in the first place years ago, so why not :P
The Sheezy revival is so good right now. 😭💜 If I could, I'd cast Infinite Scalability Magic on them right now, so they could just open signups to the public.
Sheezy art, for sure. Even if I am biased.
Things feel like they're going strong. The mod team are doing fantastic work, the site is impressively stable, and this isn't even it's final form. The solo dev is working on a website overhaul which should improve it further in so many ways. I've really been enjoying the community that's growing on Sheezy but... I'm not gonna lie, I'm very much looking forward to when we get to see sign ups open up. All in progress, all in good time
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It's decentralized
Honestly never seen anyone genuinely dislike cara or try to confidently say "it will never work out/ take off". Kinda glad about that lol. Means I'm not being recommended lame ass people lmaooo
I agree with just about all you said. When i saw Cara i knew it wasn't an Instagram but DA/Art Station joined anyways because i like what it is anyways.
The last half year I've been seeing nothing from Instagram in terms of growth or even actual eyes from my followers. my best performing post was my announcement I was leaving where it got 30 instead of 12 likes. Instagram might have a more diverse user base but all those people aren't looking for commissioning or other getting art. I can target the other groups better on other sites, even Facebook groups are better for marketing than Instagram has been for awhile.
Agreed… different people will seek different things out of social media and we should let people find what works for them. 💭✨
Instagram doesn’t show anyone my posts. I get 24 likes at most with 1000+ followers. Cara at least shows my four followers my posts
Speak on it! Im sooooo damn tired of artists with large followings acting like their opinions apply to all of us like please. I’m so sick of them
Real, like, they can do their thing, but, a lot of the people that make up their audience have to take different strategies. 😭
Late to the party but
I personally prefer a small art app that actually cares about its users than an ai app that has little to no respect for artists, sure I don’t get enough exposure right now Cara is new and I’m still learning the ropes, and better yet I feel safe on Cara rather than instagram
I do believe there's a lot of overhyping and slandering of Cara on both sides. Artists big and small are making rash decisions, abandoning their platforms to hopefully find success in another. Meanwhile some people are making false accusations and slanderous statements for their own benefit. Both are bad imo.
I'm a smaller artist who started on Cara, but I'm keeping Instagram as my main platform for now. I'm mainly seeing it as an opportunity to broaden my reach. While I'm optimistic about Cara, I also intend to keep fighting within Instagram's system. I stand by fellow creators, moreso than platforms.
Yeah, the extremes in discourse, and the extremes in peoples actions won't get us anywhere. (No matter the side.) Excellent comment. And I think wanting to fight for a better Instagram is a good attitude/spirit to have.
@@HikaTamika I'm happy you agree. Let's build a better community for artists, creators and enthusiasts together. Also your art is very cute! ☺️🩷
tbh whenever i meet i fellow artists in real life, I've been making sure to tell them about Cara! It's even got me in the mood to actually make art again. It's so nice to just have somewhere to freely post my portfolio, art, and music somewhere without worrying about "engagement" and "how often I post". Posting on Cara is slower but idk, it feels healthier?
I genuinely don’t understand why ai art is so popular. It looks like a knock off brand of other artists styles. Also I absolutely love your art style and may or may not be uppsessed with it!
Omg thank you 😭💜
I will stay on insta to ruin their data set with my crappy art
real
😂😂😂😂
the only issue i potentially see is that this sort of follower hierarchy will still continue on cara. that larger artists who move there will have their followers find them there too and that they will be the only ones that get traction. im not sure if that would be the case but it makes me hesitant to try the app despite the perks
It's a valid concern. The way things are looking, the accounts that were big elsewhere are having an easier start, but small accounts are liking and commenting on each others' stuff and using the share function to push each-others' art to new people.
I think if us smaller people share our followers with each other in that way, it can have an exponential effect and we can grow well too.
The app lets you adjust who you see, so you can specify see smaller accounts instead just the huge ones
It depends. My issue is people will take twitter, Instagram & Blue Sky's lack of reposting & sharing attitudes across with them. It's why Deviant died for me years ago - despite them adding more ways for people to engage, many didn't like feedback and attacked any attempt at it outright turning artists into snobs who only shared their work and not help others on the platform (I am an EX DA senior member & Senior mentor and saw all that first hand - it was awful).
Now I'm not expecting big artists to do this, however Cara does this WONDERFUL thing where your Timeline is separate from your folio allowing you to not only post your work where you can show it off and people can veiw it anytime they like, it allows you to SHARE other's work and spread it through the app. If people remember this and use that timeline to share work they find that's cool, interesting, needs love we could have the start of a nice community!
Now, I've been around a LONG time, had MANY accounts on various platforms, had art stolen, traced ect... but I've never been a big name artist - more like a very very niche one but many a time I find the issue when jumping ship to anywhere if you're small is when you can't constantly keep using the ones user handle/pen-name. If people loose you, as long as you don't change your user ID moniker people will eventually find you again, wherever you may end up. Those who are your truest fans are the ones who will actively find/seek you out again. Sure they might not be the greatest in number, but numbers shouldn't matter because they cannot tell you who your real fans are. The real ones are ones who comment, or if they're shy, share your work onto thier timeline for more to see. I've had several people I know follow me from DA back in the day over say... 4 platforms? 5 for one very tenacious and wonderful fan. It may not be the thousands people wish their art could reach but those few people who do track me down again are some I treasure deeply and have gotten to know too. Heck I've even done the same with several artists who I've watched grow so much bigger and more spectacular than I could ever be and it fills me with incredible joy watching them grow into amazing creatives.
That's what true fans & a true community is like.
@@solarydays That's not true. 🤨 All the icon does is let you use their online glaze service. It (reportedly) doesn't affect you in ranking.
cara.app/faq#account-types
Thank you for being the ONLY youtube video in a sea of hundreds to say the actual flipping point of Cara lol. If you look at their IG it says exactly for entertainment industry artist professionals and obviously those who hire them will be interested hence the portfolios. Everyone shitting on it for not being IG is a bit silly bruh
I think the argument that "Cara is made only for artists" isn't the horrible thing it's made out to be. "A site made for artists" is what DeviantArt was, and it had a thriving community until it too screwed over its userbase. I would have stayed on DA regardless, but so many people left that interaction there is now just as abysmal as Instagram.
I've been pretty happy with Cara. It took some time for me to start getting interactions, but (as few as it is) I'm already getting more interaction than anywhere else. There's no algorithms (cross fingers "Yet") and organic growth is finally a possibility again there.
I agree. There is meaning in community and networking with other artists. Sharing online doesn't have to be about fans and clients all the time. It's good to grow alongside creative peers.
You dropped this 👑
Thank you!! 😭💜💜
Instagram algorithm has never been nice to me, i mean yes oc art used to be less popular than fanart on insta when the algorithm was less bad i think (idrk i didnt care very much) but my acc thats been on insta since 2018 has been swinging around 100 follower since forever so i guess it will hurt less to leave for me :')
Whats wild is that they wouldnt even need to restart. Just tell your fan base you're moving ship and a lot will probably follow.
But with Cara being new, there's probably no money there
Created a Cara account, haven't done anything on it yet - but its there, ready and waiting just in case Instagram decides to pull off some crazy BS.
Gotta have a backup plan.
A smart way to go about it, imo! 🫡✨
What kind of "artists" are you following on IG? Most of the artist I follow do have Cara and respect it, having them 10k o 15k followers themselves. But what some had said, and I share the concept, is to not take a complete switch. Cara work for some things IG don't, and IG works for some things that, currently, Cara don't. Therefore, they recommend not ditching one for the other. And most of them agree that, regardless of what SM you choose to engage with, open your own site.
This video sounds way more about the so called artist you're following and less about the apps.
The IG artists that said the things that inspired this video, used TH-cam as their platform for saying the things I talked about. Not IG text-on-a-square posts or their stories. On top of that, I didn't even really follow them. It was more of a TH-cam Recommended Bar situation.
And yeah, this is a rebuttal video specifically to their *points*.
All that said, I fear internet drama and inciting stuff so I don't want to go out and say "[ArtTuber A, ArtTuber B, and ArtTuber C] (by name) were dogging on Cara!!" online, cause doing that anywhere where you garner attention is more or less telling people "sic' em, boys!!" and I don't wanna do that.
Checked a little & the fact that it has job posting on there like in Artstation makes me want to join it. I wanted to wait for the year to end & not get FOMO'ed into this since I'm sick of all the socials I already have as is, but I really am tempted.
I dont trust third party programs to cross post for me lol but inspired me to create a program just like that...and keeo it open source. Im too paranoid if its not a tool i created myself. Welp, time to do some python.
I don't think Cara is going to end up being a good place to SELL art. It will probably be a good place to sell art INSTRUCTION. But not to sell art.
I'm not on Cara to sell art, or indeed to sell anything, so this doesn't bother me one bit. I actually LIKE to have one place where I hang out, and another place where I sell things. Because in my experience, my friends that I hang out with not only don't want to buy anything, but they ALSO don't like being reminded that I sell things. They don't want to hang out on a sales floor surrounded by ads and promos. And I get it.
I've been on Cara for only a few weeks and I've interacted with so many artists in such a sort timeframe and have gotten so much more healthy engagement from artists because the community is just so welcoming and genuinely so nice, i actually got whiplash from the better quality of treatment. Cara, all the way, no questions asked!
Personally I don't see any major benefits left other than marketing on most social media sites, like Insta. They're pretty hell bent on taking your art or letting thieves do it or laying creatives in general in the bottom of the algorithms.
I don't blame people for jumping ship.
I am not bothered by AI-„Art“ anymore but my followers and friends are migrating to Cara, my idols too. So I‘m slowly going there as well, not leaving completely but I’ll have to join other platforms as well.
Jokes on them, I'm on sheezyart!!
LET'S GOOOO I love the customizable pages on there. They're bringing back peak deviantArt forreal
@@HikaTamika heck yeahhhh!!! I love how much we can personalize it. Even got page dolls back!^^
I’ve been debating on starting posting my art and I think I’m going to try cara. Currently working on an attempt at digital painting lol. Just hope I can shade the hair 😢
Go for it! You can do it!
Artists conspiracy theory? I'm in.
I have to say that I see Cara as having a good future, in one hand because it is what artists have wanted for a long time, on the other I see it, in the future and with more updates, as an app for "truly" creative minds (music , voice actors, animetion, sculptors, photographers, maybe models too, I say this because of the portfolio option) and maybe it will open the doors for more "indirect" collaboration options. Ex: If they would allow us to add a voice or music to a post , that it is created and published by someone from the app itself, and that credits and a link to the profile appear in our post (also if the person don't want this, I would add an option in the configuration that activates or deactivates this).
In my case I have not made a profile yet, although I am interested, but I want to wait a while and see how the app goes.
Since I want to upload various comics from different fandoms and I don't know if the app would do that well, in addition to how to organize it, I know that there are hagstags (PD: Love that they are well funtional
Thank you! You're so kind! And no need to apologize.
Tumblr is very good at handling different types of media, and I hope Cara can do the same in the feature. Tumblr has a new Communities feature that seems interesting. You can share posts you've made on tumblr to themed communities, like musician communities and stuff. I hope people will try it.
@@HikaTamikaFirst, you're welcome! and it's nothing, be kind, I think it's important to express your ideas and opinions respectfully.
TRUE!! I admit that I forget about communities, but I remember, I think, that a week ago Tumbler made a post about giving more people the opportunity to have one!! That's how users seem to like it.
But this makes me think of something, which makes me see Cara = Tumbler (not 100%, but more like Cara is, perhaps, going on the right path) and is that the attention of the developers or programmers? (those who maintain the app) On Tumbler they have an account where they sometimes post about updates and BUG FIXES (big and small), and things that come up, and on Cara they listen very well to people's opinions to make applications better or more focused on their audience, the reason why they both feel closer and warmer? the thing they have and fell the human care for the joy of the users, make them really cool
Another thing that I also think about is the opportunity for the art community; I mean a NEW space for interaction, which allows users to be able to give precisely those opinions or constructive advice as a bases, which seems wonderful to me and I feel (maybe this beging too much, but important) that as users we need to "protect" or rather maintain, remember the why?, because in this way we can create A mutual learning space;
And if you don't like advice (especially kinds and respecfully ones), don't respond reluctantly. It's an advice, you can either read it and take it in mind or not and leave it.
i quit being content maker
because I feel so much happier of not being content maker and I feel so much happier of myself not sharin my content anymore
Unplugging from the content grind (for a while, or altogether) can be really good for peoples' art processes, from what I've heard & experienced.
Instas love for reels at the cost of the functionality of normal posts, plus the tags not working at all at random posts no matter what I do drove me away from insta way before insta pulled this crap
Ilu 400 follower joe glad to be one of your 400 joe enjoyers 😤✊ Jokes aside you are, as always, so wise and observant about the experiences of smaller/growing artists. NO NOTES, 10/10!!!
I was gonna go off on you in defense of larger artists, because I do believe just because an artist is bigger (no matter their platform), it doesn't always mean they're not struggling either. However as I kept watching, you were mainly talking about Instagram artists so, yeah, I've seen some terrible behavior on there xD POP OFF ~
Heehee 😆. And it's not even all of them, I'm just 🤨🤨🤨 at the ones like "👻ooooh what if Cara is secretly eeeviiiilll!! Don't go there! It's never gonna maaaaake ittttt~ 👻" like if people don't mind posting art on an additional app just let 'em! 😭
@@HikaTamikahonestly, the fake rumor spreading is what kills me the most, I’ve definitely heard that rumor about Cara using art to farm for AI around before.
Also you mentioning Cara was supposed to be an alternative to art station totally cleared stuff up for me, that makes a lot of sense-
Anyways, super insightful video! Thanks so much for speaking your opinion on the matter 🥰✨
Of course! Thank you for enjoying and commenting! 🙇💜
Instagram asked for my face and phone number to make an account, i think im staying with cara 😭
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I'm not even starting am art account on IG bc i can't draw and post that often. And i can't post just a sketch, study - it has to be completed to be interesting.
Well, i'm going to draw merch to survive and i will use IG for merchandising... With the photos of the products, not with my art. For example, photos of stickers in my hand, pins etc etc. You physically can't copy the art such a little size? If you can, you're going to have troubles with everyone selling things on IG. It's like "you payed a designer to make that packaging looks great, so we're stealing that. Meet our new Ai replacing marketing designers and you as well".
As for me, that Ai boom is so stupid in its shortsightedness... It is said to be a win-win, but all it does is threatening more and more people to ruin their jobs and human to human trust.
Thank you for making this video. I only have 200 followers. It's frustrating 😒 more people need to here thus.
Instagram and facebook feed user's data to train their AI.
So if artist using Instagram to sharing artwork without protection again AI thief, it's basically a suicide action for his art career.
Big artists need people to stay on ig because they’ve already curated their mega followers. So it’s a detriment to them when people leave the platform. Their numbers will dwindle and there a risk that they would have to rebuild their audience once again on another platform.
Im finding quite a few of the larger more experienced artists i follow on cara. They all moved there much more willingly than bluesky. Which im sad about.
Me too. BSky feels better for shorter thoughts, more casual thoughts and updates than Cara's text posts. And, there's a non-artist audience on it. I hope people'll use both, like we used to use both Twitter and DeviantArt. My BlueSky experience is super fun and lively, so it makes me wonder why some artists ignore it.
Maybe after video gets added more people'll come!
ive heard a few different opinions about this topic, from big and small artists, but i havent heard this advice yet, so im glad i watched it
"...or even Threads..."
Threads? _Oh yeah...._ that was a thing, wasn't it...
I havent been watching much videos on Cara but i watched one where an artist said that Cara is run by a small team and itd be difficult for the team that are freelancers to try and keep the site up and keep up with the bugs and updates. These big artist could be trying to gatekeep but also we cant keep pushing a lot of traffic to that website its a small team
I just discovered Cara today. And from the looks of it, it seems promising. So I think I'll give it a shot.
Mohammed agbadi likes cara as an app
I just post my shit on Pinterest. I don't get any attention, and I'm fine with that, but I'd much rather have that than go on Instagram
Awesome video with a lot of really good points, especially for smaller creators. I'm loving Cara so far - it really feels a lot more community minded. And I think being for artists first and foremost helps with that because we're all kind of there for the same stuff; appreciating one another's works. There's so much great stuff on there.
I totally agree! The atmosphere there is nice right now. I'm interested in seeing where Cara goes in the future.
Cara looks actually good. One day I will have a image worth showing then I make account
Only deviantart
works for me but i had that account 21 years.
Thank you for talking about this, I feel like a lot of artists are hopping on the bandwagon that “cara will end up like all the others” because it’s easier to not move platforms and not get your hopes up than it is to just put a speck of faith into a growing art community that actually cares about its users.
It’s really sad to hear people dismissing Cara when they havent even tried it
I been thinking about quiting instagram at 100th photo post. Cause i feel like every big instagramer i met is fake.
I've never really downloaded Instagram. I'm a younger artist as well. Is it recommended that I download Cara and post there, even if it's not the greatest in the world? The community seems nice 4 the most part! :)
I'd recommend it! Post in, and search for hashtags relevant to you so you can find other artists in your niche, and engage w/ em! Some might become future friends.
i keep getting banned on insta (for quite literally no reason, never posted on any of my accounts) anyways
As someone who never gets likes anywhere, I also have absolutely no followers or likes on Cara. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but I don’t get why no one actually sees my stuff. I have no idea how or why.
I disagree that the reason big artists are saying Cara won't work is to manipulate the public for their own gain at the expense of smaller artists, because they already have their followers and don't want to lose them. I think people in general are just tired of hearing everyone saying "jump ship" and nothing ever sticks. And they're voicing their own cynical opinions.
Big artists are just people, and they are susceptible to misinformation the same as anyone else. This is also an age where people can't bother to fact check and just accept any rumor they hear.
Still, this video is extremely important and I'm so glad you made it, and so glad the algorithm seems to be pushing it out. Artists really need to diversify, and Cara sounds like a great place made for artists by artists, and smaller artists might have a better chance too if they don't have to fight the algorithm every step, that is a really good thing to point out. Sure, it's small, it looks a bit vulnerable, but every site has to start somewhere, and this one is starting strong actually!
Also thank you for clearing up the misinformation about Cara, Nightshade and Glaze, and encouraging people to use them. And great note at the end about how migrating to a new website can absolutely be a slow process, and you don't have to abandon everything you had 100%.
Very important video, thank you!
Thank *you*! For your insightful comment and for watching! It means a lot.
I don't want small artists to miss out on new connections they can forge without having to battle small-artist-unfriendly algorithms. 🙏💜
Thanks for the video. I also have a small account but I have become more uncomfortable with both IG and Twitter. Unfortunately, much of the discourse has seem to conclude that there is nowhere else for artist to go, but I like the ideas you mentioned in the video. Definitely might try out Cara and even Tumblr again just see what works for me. Also your character is super cute!!!
Thanks so much! And good luck out there! It might be a bunch of comparatively small sites until one starts to look big and stable enough. Some of those small ones include Artfol, the SheezyArt Revival, and BlueSky
Thank you so much for the list in terms of protecting art. I may not post art rn but if i do decide to start in the future, I have the necessary steps to take and how to take them, I do have some friends who do so I plan to share the list and programs with all of them as well!
You're welcome! I hope it helps out!
This was a great vid! I’m glad someone’s calling out the bigger creators on instagram/youtube. I think it’s telling that a lot of creators in the IG art community engage in trends that ask for more followers (“lets be art moots/follow and I’ll follow back” or the dreaded “reduce your expectations to 0” when they already have thousands of followers 💀💀) only to not support smaller artists and then they pretend that Cara is somehow going to sabotage everyone. Make no mistake these large creators benefit from you staying on IG, and they’re not actually looking out for the art community as a whole.
😂🤝 Omg the "reduce your expectations to 0" plague, lol… One of the worst trends on there.
Thank you for your comment! I wish larger creators would think more about the wellbeing of the whole community compared to what's working best for them. Especially when the opportunities and algorithms aren't the same anymore.
Thank you for talking about this, I don’t mind being a smaller creator atm but seeing how the current social media landscapes treats artists is incredibly disheartening and discouraging and I’d like to see bigger artists AT LEAST give Cara a chance before dismissing it altogether
What? I'm surprised by both this video and the comments. All the big (or otherwise) artists i follow are mega into Cara. The only thing they ever really say against it is more like "I understand that a lot of people won't make the switch because they've already built a following that they rely on on Instagram" that and if you're trying to reach non-artists then platforms like Twitter and instagram are seemingly more appealing even if they aren't artist-friendly platforms. Had no idea there was anti-Cara corporate shilling going on. Idk how i missed it 😂
Yea lol I was so confused I thought this video was anti Cara for a second lol
Wow, this is the best video on cara I've seen, genuinely.
🙇🙇 Thank you 💜
I dunno who you watch but every big artist i watch recommend cara and diss instagram...
Instagram has gone to crap
thought I'd try insta when I wanted to get back into posting my art... yeah no. either i got no engagement, or too much (bad) engagement (like the ragebait instagram humor people or other nonartists critiquing me and people demanding I post proof that the art was mine). instagram is not easy to grow on, especially now. :(
I'm sorry that's happened to you… the strangers randomly demanding timelapses and stuff as proof is probably my least favorite thing about posting art online recently. 😞💔
Well if people do followed you for your arts then it's not too difficult to restart in Cara. Me personally, nobody give a damn about my art the last 10 years so when I go to Cara, I barely have any one to bat an eye at my works. But at the same time I also... don't care?
I still post on IG and Cara at the same time, I'm at the point of not really care about what going to happen anymore. I accepted my failure as an artist, and just vibing. So I do think it's good to just using both at the same time and over time, slowly decide to drop IG if Cara is working out for you!
I absolutely love this video! A lot of good points were made
Ohmigosh, thank you! 🙇💜 I'll keep trying TH-cam out! I've been blown away with the reception to this video and I'm amazed at how talking over some art footage is all I had to do. (I was worried that maybe I should have had more visual edits throughout the whole video)
As my instra act go to nowhere and those who follow me isy friend or someone I know.
I can just instantly jump to Cara no sweat.
But with all the problem the creator currently have, I wanna see if the direction gonna go up or down
It's just a hard copium of them 😮💨
Love the video, it opened up my opinions quite a bit! P.S O really like your calm voice. :D
Omg thank you! I'm glad I'm easy to listen to! I worry about my voice a lot
Just checked out your art gallery. Your art is outstanding and also thank you so much for supporting a free Palestine! Love to see creators use their art for good. ❤
Oh my gosh, thank you! Of course! I wanted to join in on the "draw your fave with the flag" meme, but, I'm always attached to my original characters, so I ended up drawing one of them instead. 😅🍉
I love this video. You covered great points. I’d also like to learn how to automate crossposting too.
It might take a little while, but I'll get to work on it!
I mean honestly for me honestly I gave up all of it yeah I do have Cara how do you put something on there yeah my devinatart art account is still there My overall I kind of gave up on Twitter and Instagram when it came to my artwork.
Thank you for this video. Like the amount of random Cara hate is getting ridiculous. When I first saw it, I always thought that it was suppose to be similar to art station not instagram. But people keep trying to compare the two. I’m not posting on there yet because my art isn’t that polish but I’m going to give Artfol and Bluesky another try and also will start glazing.
proud to be your 800th sub ^^
Thank you! 🥹💜 I hope to make more videos you'll like!
Tbh I want something like deviantart was. Or more public discord.
#Facts