Should you try a counterbalanced driver shaft? VA NEMESYS exclusive first test
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A TXG exclusive first test of the new VA Composites Nemesys shaft.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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Another great one!!! maybe TXG can make a series on how to make your 45.75" driver to play at 44.75", tipping and adding weight to get a desired swing weight.
Hey, brilliant again.
I tried the tensei Orange 60g stiff with the CALLAWAY Epic flash and felt I couldn't square the club face up and always had this push fade. Just felt as if I couldn't control it.
Stuck in the tensei Blue and immediately felt as if I had loaded the head with weight. More a driving ball and a soft draw or straight.
It was like I knew where the club head was with the blue but had no idea with the orange.
Brilliant swing again Matty smooth!!! Love the big follow through finishing your swing is something I'm trying to work on over the winter. 👍👍👍👍 first class boys
Absolutely love these videos, great job!
Well guys because of your review I've now got the best driver shaft ever in my driver ( VA Vylyn 55 gram stiff ), and this winter I'm going to put a couple Raijin hybrids shafts in my 24 and 19 degree hybrids. This new counter balanced shaft might not be for me, but I'm going to keep my eye out for further reviews on it. Keep it up, love the reviews.
Hey guys, love the videos! I would love to see a video of you guys talking about the effects of shaft torque (mostly driver/fwy/hybrid) and how it changes the flight of the ball. Keep up the awesome work!
Happy to see a Merry Christmas bonus for Iron Byron...
Well done lads! Finish the year with a booom. An interview/chat with Mizuno wizard and a new shaft for Matt.
It set the standard for next year extremely high.
Great work Boys..... I booked a wood fitting with the Scotsman and I can't wait to try some of these shafts with the F9 heads I have..... keep up the great content and see you guys in the new year!
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME PERFORMANCE!!!
Love Matt's trying to rationalize why he hit this thing beyond awesome🙀🏌I thought Ian was going to blow snot out his nose.
One of your best. Do these help slow swingers or not a good idea?.
Great stuff cheers from NorCal stay warm👏
Again, brilliant content boys! That Nemesys shaft is staying on that driver, right Matt?
Great vid! Always super informative
Amazing!! The Nemesys of the Ventus
Watching this video I suddenly had this vision of Matty's playing partners with their heads in their hands, this new shaft is just what they need Matty 12 yards nearer the Pin and in the middle of the fairway! This new shaft really will be their Nemesis, just give him the money now Guys 🏌️♂️💥⛳👍🤦♂️
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you both !🎄🎅 Can't wait to see what's in store for 2020. Very interested to see how the new 2020 Mizuno woods are, and your thoughts on them.
I have bought the UST V2 Tour Counter Balance 6F4 for my Flash SZ and is a beast , I had the V2 tour 2018 and I see the difference in carry and accuracy
i'd love to get a course vlog of you boys playing with a current or former tour player, would be beyond cool.
Hi -
First off, let me say, your videos on youtube are the best in the industry (Ian and Matt, you guys are great). I truly enjoy the insights you present. I wish you guys had a branch in Chicago!
Given that you guys did extensive testing of the VA Composites Nemesys, I was hoping you might be able to help me out. I currently game the Ping G410 LST 9.0 degree. I play out of Olympia Fields in Chicago and my handicap index ranges from 5-6 at any given time.
I have been playing my trusty Graphite Design Tour AD DI6 (stiff flex in 45 inches) in the G410 LST. I have played a little bit with the Tensei CK Orange (stiff flex in 45.25 inches) that came with the driver. I have found that when I hit it on the screws, the Tensei CK Orange gives me better distance, but the overall dispersion of the GD AD DI6 has been more consistent out on the course. For reference, I am using the stock 12 gram weight that came with the driver.
After watching your video from Dec-19 I am considering taking a flyer on the VA Composites Nemesys (65 stiff flex?).
Was hoping you might be kind enough to give me your thoughts on the 3 shafts and how the Nemesys might compare?
Thank you for your time!
I absolutely love Ian being speechless and to see both of you dumbfounded like this. Moments like that are what we all live for!
Great exclusive!! VA has been putting out such high quality products fitting so many different swings. Can't wait to try this one!!
Merry Christmas to Matt !😁🎄
Curious to see a comparison with other counterbalanced shafts and how they affect swing weight. Played the rogue silver in my 4 wood and fell in love with it, but could never get along with the tensei orange stock shaft that I had in my M4 before they got stolen out of my car 😂
Fantastic boys!
I really want to try this shaft. I had a drago in z785 driver I really liked it
I need this shaft! I have a ping g410lst with the hunk 6.0 60grams shaft but I feel like the driver is too heavy down at the head and I have to go hard at it. Can’t wait to try this shaft!!
Note when getting future fit at TXG the correct answer to Should you try counter balanced driver shaft is ... “Ah yeah sure .... this will make me hit like Matty right?” However up till now counter balance totally meant when I go to pay at the counter on the way out it balances with my budget. Just buy it Matty and way to steal Pat Reon’s strike of the year! 👍
You guys have the best, most informative vids out there. Need your opinion. Currently hitting Flash Sub Zero With a Fubuki J counterbalanced shaft and it works very well for me. Can you compare the Fubuki J to the Nemesys. It's got me intrigued. Heard lots of good things about VA Composites.
I took a leap of faith and bought the 65x shaft considering I have had success with other CB shafts for my Ping G410. Glad I did, so smooth and raised my ball speed roughly 3-4 mph while adding a 4 gram heavier weight in the head but still maintaining my swing speed and spin characteristics. But I was worried at first, it felt soft or a little whippy wagging it in my hands. I just don't understand how it works so good feeling so soft for my SS.
Just so good.
I changed the weights in Callaway epic flash sub zero triple diamond, I think this shaft will benefit me alot, currently using the Project X Green 6.0 Hulk shaft
Well ok hmm .. I'm between 5 - 10 yards behind Matt average drive 325-330's I also play the G410 with upgrade 60X 'Tour shaft" and was about to pull the trigger on the Ventus black ...although I normally like a lighter butt feel an more head feel ..I do have a tendency to move the in as well maybe more meat in the handle might help keep clean the flight up an little more .. looking forward to that shaft test
Another great review boys! Quick question, is the Nemesys the now mass produced version of the VA “Prototype” shaft Matty hit a few months ago when you guys also tested the Graphite Design XC and the Aldila Rogue 130 MSI?
Do you think in the reviews y’all could include the price in shafts? Or maybe do a range of mid price point shafts as well?
Great idea ...
That would be awesome.for MOST of us! Good idea sir.
The point isn't for you to go out and buy this shaft though, the point is for you to get fitted for a shaft that works for your swing. Just because Matty was hitting it accurately doesn't mean I or you or who ever would hit it accurately with the same setup.
Chris Caruso I get that, but it would be nice to know retail prices of some of these. Or maybe know what some characteristics of some low and mid range shafts are vs stock shafts. Not all of us that love golf can afford $400-$600 shafts.
If I've learned anything from this channel it is to get a quality fitting. If you are upfront with your fitter about your price concerns they should be able to offer you product within your budget. If you have a modern adjustable head you might be able to retro-fit your old head with a new shaft to save you some $.
Guy’s the videos and information is fantastic, the only thing I would like to see more of getting guest golfers in who have handicaps of 10+ because that’s where most club golfers are at
Hey guys great video again. I have a pretty fast swing speed but my feel of where the club head is at is more faith based than anything else. Would going heavier in the head and a counterbalanced shaft be a good option for me or something more boardy?
Really really interesting guys!
Please do a video with your recomendations of compadable heads.... Fellow canadian who lives in México full time and no access to a proper fitter! 🤘
Well another great review just a small comment could you also put on the head weights or all the drivers that you test with new shafts & the total weight👍 oh & a merry Christmas to all @TXG🎄
Could we possibly see a video explains benefits of combo sets, as well as how to go about blending loft? Thanks guys killin it
I wish I could get up there to get my driver fitted. Love watching
Was this really from you guys?
Awesome video as always. How would this compare to the Fujikura Pro 2.0 or Aldila Rogue?
Omg the colors...I need it badly even if it doesn't work for me
I use one with my G400 and I absolutely love the balance of the club. Feels like I'm hitting the ball with some type of hammer
The look on Ian's face after those first couple with the VA surely short lists this for TXG product test video of the year. Matty, your Santa list must have just got longer? 👍😊
Hey TXG, I love the work you guys do. I currently just put a nunchuk shaft in my titleist 917 d3. It is a 104 gram shaft and i believe those are counterbalanced (could be wrong). I was feeling the same thing Matt was with feeling that “kick” through impact and ball flight and speed stayed relativelly the same and much tighter dispersion and slightly less spin (2200 ish). Was having a lot of face rotation through impact with my diamana white 70x. I know the nunchuk is an older shaft and not really talked about, i would be curious though if you guys could give that a whirl in your testing or if you have already? Keep up the great work, i hope to be able to make it down to your studio one day!
I still play a jpx 900 driver with the speeder evo ll shaft which I believe is counterbalanced and came stock with that head
It looks like you get through the ball so much better with the VA shaft. The ventus looks like you are hanging back (to much effort to get through it) causing the over hook.
Counter balanced looks good on you
Just got fitted for this with a Radspeed XD driver. Should be here in a few weeks. Can't wait.
Is it good?
Tungsten prepreg is the same tech used in the Tensei Pro Orange which is intended to bring a higher balance point to a softer handled shaft, which would not normally have a higher balance point like a stiffer handled shaft would naturally have. I would be curious what the EI profile of this one looks like.
Have you done any testing on counterbalanced shafts vs counterweights in the grip? In my experiences so far there wasn't much difference in performance when building a club to similar specs between counterweight shaft and counterbalanced grip.
Love your testing videos. One would be two sets of irons, same heads, same shafts but one set MOI setup for Matt - would one set have better numbers for Matt?
I argee with what ThatCarGuyClayton said..........A mid priced point shaft comparison would be awesome for most of us.
Interested stuff! Ian, could you give us a list of counter balance shafts please?
I use a 45 gram weight that's put into the butt of the shaft after the grip is installed, it helps me be more consistent and 100 gram in my putter feels great.
Have a TZ CB in mail. Can’t wait.
Big change in dynamic lie with the nemesys. Would this be helping with the start line.
Any idea when this shaft is available and what price range?
I currently play the F9 with the fuji Pro 2.0 6x with 2x 14g weights in it and love it compared to anything else I have tried. Massive fan of counter balanced shafts. This extreme high balance point has me very interested as my miss is to turn one over every now and then.
Ian, did you adjust the SW so they are the same for both setups? 3SW difference would take a lot of extra head weight to equalize. Let's have a look at the EI curves for these shafts, if you get them can you post them. Can you tell me where the balance point is for that driver setup?
Matt get that shaft!
I use a yonex ezone xp has the heavier head with the tungsten in the end of the grip find it the easiest driver ive ever hit. Im not a good player and always struggled with driver but it gets me out there and dispersion is much better still hit poor shots but they are not as bad, id say to anyone give counterbalance a go.
After seeing Matt test so many shafts, I’m surprised he hasn’t stuck with the Fujikura pro 2.0. He always seems to do so well with it
What do u mean? Hes testing everything. If he stuck with something there would be no new content lol
Ray Ho great point Ray, I thought he was great with that shaft also.
O. G. Yes Matt should definitely be testing everything, especially with his unique speed and tempo combination.
I was stating how well he has done with the fuji pro 2.0 that it should be his gamer, instead of the Ventus
Ian Fraser I remember during the ultimate driver where Matt was using the ts3 in both diamana 60tx in the beginning, and switched to fuji pro 2.0 tour spec later in the bracket. It was a small difference but both dispersion circle and carry was better with the Fuji shaft.
But that’s also with the ts3 and not the g410 so it’s probably not entirely comparable
Ray Ho it all dates back to the first time we Tested F9 with the additional weights in the head, we used the Fuji Pro 2.0 TS to offset the additional head weight. Worked a treat.
Would the fuji pro 2.0 TS be considered slightly counterbalanced? Also, why did matt never game it after hitting it so well in the driver bracket as well as other review videos in the past?
Timing looked better with second shaft, could you feel the head weight better?
Proto looks like an old boron shaft I used in a 7* Taylor Made Burner c.1989!! Firm dry conditions came out low out of the wind and ran for miles! Heaven forbid you got it wrong! 😂
Just purchased one of these it’s going in a Titleist ts2 wondering how much weight would I need to add to keep it at its standard swing weight?
Just when you think Matt can't get any longer, Ian changes the shaft! Wow even more reason to be fitted.
The colour of the proto nemesis shaft looks like an old aldila hm 40 shaft that I had in an old Taylormade raylor
What about the difference between cutting 1-2-3 cm off the shaft and counterbalanced shaft? You get a lighter swingweight too and add control? I am beginner with this stuff thanks!
Ian/Matt. Just curious. How would you compare this shaft to the HZRDS Smoke yellow counterbalanced shaft? Preference?
do you know if a ust elements chrome is a counter balance? i think it is just got one and love it.
I had an Oban Kiyoshi hb in my M3 for a while until it shattered. I'm pretty sure it's a counter balanced shaft? It was working really well until that happened
Maybe I can finally use a heavier head with a shaft like this. I just don't get along with ping bc of the heavy head and traditional balance shafts.
I need to see this vs the tensei orane pro 70tx i rekon it would be an interesting comparison
Hey guys,
How long did you cut the nemesys from the tip?
Thanks!
That shaft color without the graphics is my dream.
i am currently using Titleist 915D2 with Tour Ad GT6s, I am thinking of upgrade the head only to TS2 or TS3 and use the same shaft. does this work? what do I need to look out for?
Just when I was about to order a Ventus... Now Fuji has a new Nemesys...
Just once, just once I would like Matty's first drive to be a 150 yard duck hook like the rest of us!
OLDGOLD I’m sure he has lol they don’t show every swing
Perfect content for a behind the scenes video!
Maybe if he hits a hybrid then...guaranteed to duck hook into the trees for everyone.
Seriously though, nice video, knocking it out of the park like Matty's drives.
The beauty of editing
Counter balance shafts can be good on drivers. More head weight so u can increase moi= more forgiving. Ping has been doing it for years. Best moi out there
Interesting to note the G410 seems to suit the counterbalanced shafts. Guess that is why they offered the Tensai in the mix with the counterbalance......
Sean Cook correct!! 👍🏻
If I remember correctly, Matt hit the Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec extremely well. Isn’t that counter balanced, too? Perhaps a pattern...
So, Cobra comes with a hazrdus smoke yellow, which is counterbalanced... Do they add weight to the head, when it comes with the smoke yellow, or does it come in at a lighter swingweight?
Hi guys I haven't played for a couple of years now. Before i had a shaft named accuflex assassin ld xxx in 46 inch. I love that feeling in tp that shaft. I plan to start tp play again. But i wonder now whats counter shaft. And do you guys now accuflex assassin ld shaft and if there is any similar to that one?
Would a shaft like this or a lower balance point shaft be better for a person that’s miss is a slice?
Matty fearing for his wallet....wallet nightmares🤪 my goodness what a ball flight💸
Popcorn, coke and a good footstool, keep hittin em Matt
How much tipping did you use for Matt on this test?
What a performance!!
What was the Driver lenght with the nemesys shaft??
Thanks
both at 45"
@TXG - I understand what the 65 is in relation to but what does the "FIVE" mean written on the shaft? Does that correlate with something like Stiff, Regular etc. ? I'm not finding any details on his website. -Thanks
four is stiff and five is x stiff
So someone like myself with a terrible out to in, release early swing this would be a no go? I don't get how Matt still feels where the club head is on such a drastic change.
What is the difference of having a high balance point to just using a heavier grip (eg. midsized instead of standard) on a regular shaft? Wont the added weight of a heavier grip effectively move the balance point towards the grip?
Interested to hear your thoughts, cheers!
it would, be you're introducing more total weight to the club which isn't always ideal
Where the heck, and when will it be available?
Dude in the next bay over is hitting it off the map
Hey Guys... i loved this video. What does the last number indicate on the VA shafts?... i.e.... i believe that that shaft was 65 five? Thanks!
flex - 5 is X-stiff
What is the G410LST head weight that Matt uses?
Who's the conehead that didn't like this video ? Perhaps another shaft manufacturer ? I have a G400 with a TPT shaft and curious how this would work . Well done guys
TPT's are fairly low balance point so this would feel pretty different for you
I wonder if a counterbalanced shaft would help relieve some soreness after the round?
I can still swing a club alright but I'm getting to that age where I can get some soreness in my shoulders after the round.
TRENT KITCH not sure CB sounds like the answer but lighter overall certainly should help, if we’re talking drivers definitely give TS1 a try.
How would this compare to the Accra FX 2.0 260 M4?
Dang Matty!!! I want to try this in the off season
Is the Titleist TSi3 heavy enough to use this shaft properly?
Matty lookin pretty tan, was this after you came to Hawaii 🤙
Can you make a basic intro video to gold fitting parameters, there’s so many parameters you guys use. It’s hard to understand.
Eg spin, loft, counter weight, swing weight etc
Spin is how much the ball spins.
Loft is the loft angle.
Counter weight is the weight that counters the head weight.
Swing weight is how heavy the club feels when it's being swung.
Any comment on the price point? Or release date?