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BUILDING THE ULTIMATE DRIVER // 5 Steps Toward Driver Success
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2023
- Today Ian and Mikey are in the studio hitting bombs and discussing 5 steps everyone should consider when working on their drive. Follow along and see if these steps speak to you and could help your game!
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Stenson said it best and play the most forgiving clubs you can stand to look at. I put some more forgiving irons in bag (ping i230) and more forgiving driver, first non low spin model (ping g430 max). I’ve played my best golf this year with this mentality.
I switched from RadSpeed to ZX5LS and am getting off the tee so much better. Big forgiving drivers are the way to go
@@treyperry9722 ... This is what I am thinking of doing. How did you find the switch?
Stoked to hear about your golf game getting better. Golf is hard enough as it is... why not make it easier? Forgiveness isn't ever a bad thing.
@@clubchampionmedia Ive dropped my handicap from a 4.3 to a 1.8. And have had my most rounds under par in a season this year!
DC
Mikey is becoming a rockstar on camera. Well done boys. Keep the great videos coming
Mikey is the man.
I had center contact with my old cheap driver and with my r15 tm i was straight up heel striking and couldn't move away from it at all. I pulled the shaft off the cheap and put a tm tip on it and am now using it with the r15 head! Weighed the old cheap head n matched the new one too it with way better results with contact. Not quite center but i can move the contact around now. I added 9 more grams of center weight and I'm going to try it Sunday on the range!
Just been fitted at club champion and was the best experience for a golf fitting and got the p7mb with axiom 125x flex shafts, tried the p7mc and found them less forgiveness than the p7mb, best thing any golfer can do is get a proper fitting
Confidence creates speed as well. Been stuck around 96 mph with TSR 2 and stock shaft . Went every where so started steering it decided to go back to a TZ5 60 started going straight and good contact. Now I can just swing it with confidence and back to 103 average
Its not the shaft. As Ian say: changing the loft by 1 degree will impact the driver more than any shaft in the world.
This is excellent.... Great job guys !
@Ian - I spend my 10 minutes 3x/week watching your videos 😄....decisions, decisions!
Love this video i have the strike, delivery is slightly down 1dn but me hitting up is a miricle. Lovr my current head but when im slighty off timing goes so going for shaft fit tomorrow god knows what wins
Brooks Koepka hits down on driver. A lot of golfers gets totally lost with their driving trying to hit up on their driver.
He’s the exception not the rule, almost all other top driver hit up on the Driver. Sergio who has been a phenomenal driver of the golf ball in his career has also spoke recently about trying to hit more on the upswing.
@@clubchampionmedia for sure, in an ideal world every golfer hit up and bomb it high with low spin. But Ive heard from many coaches that they see golfers suffering cause of trying to hit up, instead of hitting down and get a controlled ball flight. Not ideal but swing your swing is not bad advice.
A select few with very high swing speeds hit slightly down. But if you look at LPGA which is way closer in speed to most amateur golfers they all hit significantly up on it and are also way more accurate
@@kourt2469 yes for sure, but its not a skill that suits all golfers. Im a great compressor of the ball, but I just swing my swing with driver as well, I dont like the idea of having two swings (d-plane), but a good fitter have helped me get the most out of my driving.
AWESOME VIDEO as usual, 10 minutes 3x a week Kev
Thanks for this video. I am about to schedule a driver session with our local Club Champion and I already had some of this data to start the conversation. Looking forward to see what comes out of it. My cruising driver speed is 112, but I can get up to 117 but my shaft makes it really sloppy and messy. So I am looking to find that shaft that fits with my speed and delivery.
Also, the Superspeed Program is awesome. Helped a ton!
We're glad you thought it was helpful. Have fun in your fitting and be confident you're about to play better golf!
@@clubchampionmedia thank you. Got a killer build…the numbers blew my mind!! Excited to get it back soon.
I dont have the SS of most of my competition. Im 100 mph on a good day. But I hit it 3-5 up at around 14/2000 which lets me keep up at least somewhat.
Great info. Thanks guys
I’d rather be in the rough 100 yards out than in the fairway 200 out (not links rough 😝)
How is there a 100 yard difference? Are you collaring pitching wedge driver 😂
Creating the lag got me 5mph head speed. Do I really need a speed stick or can I just use a spare driver shaft I already have? Maybe I could add a bit of weight to the end if needed.
I have 180 ball speed hitting the qi10 tense blue in xs, wondering what you think my distance should look like?
I swing around 127-130 club head speed with a 65 gram in that shaft with my driver. On a good 2200 spin ball what should my distance look like
i got fitted in December for the TSR3 in Phoenix and hit great with stock shaft Tensi black.. im 114-118 with the driver depending and with a couple swing changes it wasn't working for me anymore and then started thinking i made a mistake spending 600 bucks.. recently switched to ventus 6x blue and its been a game changer
You focus too much on shaft. The head is the engine.
@@hansidelk6604 the vent is 6x has made a huge difference shafts make a difference
Can I get high launch low spin with just shaft. I have stealth 2 plus using a Ventus blur 5 r with velocore. Swing speed 100 to 105. I also have a Ventus red TR 5r shaft
I roll a TM mini 300 with ventus blue tr 7-x at same as as youm 17 degree launch and 2200-2400 spin
No not any shaft out there can give you that, its up to you and the driver head
Would the "correct" shaft change with head weight change?
You gents in Scottsdale AZ? I’m AZ I will schedule an appointment
Great comparison here
I just had the crown pop off of my Stealth HD. Really liked it but I can't afford a new driver every 4 months. Back to the drawing board.
TM will replace that for you, I'm sure. Reach out to them directly, even if out of warranty
What about the person who seems to hit down on the driver. That's what I was told I seem to be doing in the simulator? With 9 degree stealth 2 plus vecore tr blue 6x swinging about 114 club head drives flying about 280-290 was launching around 9 degree...
Go up in loft
I play G430 with the Ping Tour Chrome 2 65S. I was fitted in this. What would be the characteristics/shaft spec ?
Mid kick. Blue profile.
My gamer is also a TR Blue 6x, and have a similar club speed 105-110. I’ve often wondered what tipping you’re putting on yours?
Ball speed or clubhead speed?
Hi Guys love your content. I have the opposite problem really would love it if you could address it at some point. I’m a 3 handicap. I can swing easy in the 170s ball speed and mid 180s if I jump on it. But in competitive rounds I can’t take the driver out the bad because it’s not reliable. I just hit a driving/4 iron or hybrid off the tee. I feel like if I could get the driver in play more often it would significantly lower my scores. It’s the only club in the bag I consistently struggle with. What are the best ways to become an accurate driver of the ball? Or what modifications to equipment would you suggest?
Hey there Tales. In general, with your speed, going heavier and stiffer may yeild some tighter dispersions!
With that being said, there could be any number of reasons you're having troubles with accuracy with your driver. The only way to figure out the specific answer would be to go through our fitting process. Find your nearest Club Champion location and schedule a fitting and undoubtedly you'll leave with the answers to your questions!
@@clubchampionmedia currently been playing a hzrdus RDX 6x in an M3 set down to 8 degrees. I’m in the UK near Bristol where is the nearest Club Champion? There don’t seem to be many fitting centres in my area that carry many X stiff shaft options.
What were the grips on the Super Speed's?
Thank you for great content. Head weight of the stealth 2 plus?
Ian needs a practice Heavy Driver to work on his transition feel! Keep working on it Ian love to see you swing looser! Yoga is the way to go!
Superb video. In conjunction with that could you speak to controlling path with speed? It the one thing I struggle with be it driver or long irons. Blocky slice with the driver is my miss. 110 to 115 club head speed. Thanks gents!
Take a lesson, no shaft can save a blocky slice
Counter balanced shafts can sometimes help with a negative club bath. Nemesys or Tensei Orange are good places to start. But the only way to know is to go in for a fitting yourself -- we recommend your friendly neighborhood Club Champion location.
I know Ian used stack system last year, is there reason he changed back to super speed?
His one year free trial was done. Didn’t want to pay the subscription 😂
Could be wrong but I think he said a while ago it only takes him 10 mins with them vs like half an hour with stack
I agree the shaft is important. So what do you recommend in matching iron, hybrid and fairway wood shafts to the driver shaft? I realize they perform differently, but if is the timing of the delivery of your swing, wouldn't their be an optimal matching shafts for the other clubs. For instance, if I am using the ever popular autoflex (SF 505 X) in the driver, are their optimal iron, fairway and hybrid shafts?
Test them individually. If you want, it can be a starting point.
@@lawbinson What is the starting point? Just start randomly testing. I was thinking is there an approach...
@@lawbinson I mean as a club fitter, you wouldn't just randomly start pulling shafts. What methodology would you use to start pulling potential options?
This shaft obsession 😆
10 MINUTES 3 TIMES A WEEK
I know the best drivers hit up, but why does trackman have the PGA tour average as slightly negative with driver? It might imply for as many guys who hit up, there's an equal amount who hit down. To be fair though, the last table is from 2015. Let's see the updated numbers.
Most of the longest drivers hit up like Rory. Most of the most accurate drivers hit it flat or slightly down, especially those that tend to cut the driver.
@@jacobmccain8082 I'm more interested in what the highest sg18 driving players do, instead of long vs accurate.
Trackman will be reading all PGAT drives. As a player tees off on a dog leg or into the wind and hits a low lofted, low spin head and shaft he probably will adjust his swing for that shot. The boys are talking about straight driving holes.
How high launch is too high. I launch at almost 17 degrees with similar swing speed and ball speed to you. I have a Mizuno stz with shaft is lowest setting. Definitely too much spin and I get 0 roll. I am happy to be carrying over 260 with straight flight. But it sucks to be out driven by people hitting 240 but rolling past me.
That's a bit too high launch probably based on your assumed swing speed. If you're really carrying it 260 then your swing speed is probably in the 105-110mph range, maybe even faster. Ideal launch angle is about 13 degrees give or take a degree (maybe two, depending on your swing characteristics). You say you have your Mizuno ST-Z driver set to the lowest setting on the shaft adapter, but you don't say what the stock loft, either 9.5 or 10.5. Either way, on the Mizuno drivers, when you set the loft to the lowest available setting, you are making the driver's lie angle more upright. The stock lie angle is 56.5 degrees, and when you set a Mizuno driver to its lowest loft, the lie angle will be 58 degrees, 1.5 degrees more upright. Setting the loft to its lowest setting also closes the club face 4 degrees. These setting changes could be affecting the way you swing and deliver the club into impact. It sounds like you are probably hitting it too low in the face, which would lead to the high spin ball that balloons up in the air, lands too steep (ideal land/descent angle being mid/high 30s degrees, maybe low 40s at most), and doesn't roll out. You could also be coming in too steep with your swing delivery and hitting down on the ball, which could also be contributing to the high spin.
Mikey is too busy using kleenex. LOL
Fear the Speed Mikey…
Is Ventus Blue TR the same as the old Atmos Blue Tour Spec?
No
Similar profile.
How many ludes does Mikey take before coming to work?
When did you change the name of the channel?
A few months ago
@@clubchampionmedia good stuff. i thought I was experiencing Mandela effect lol
@@00SingleSeven 😂
Step 6 TSR 3
Very good point
The distance/handicap theory is a complete chicken/egg scenario. Are the handicaps lower because of the distance or is the distance longer because a lower handicap golfer hits the center more often?
#1 should be that it takes more than your club, performance dramatically relies more on your swing and being able to know what's going to happen at impact before you need to worry about any of this
Ian doesn't hit anything better than the original SIM driver, so surely one rule should be to stop switching drivers lol!
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I’m a high handicap and can drive 280+ yards
Huh... Simple as that, eh?
Just hit it better.
Gotcha! LOL
Brooks hits it far and his Cadie said brooks hits more down on his driver so how does that work?
Because he has elite speed…120+….so he doesn’t have to optimize to have a lot of distance…his launch angle is only around 10° and spin is 2600-2700…for most drives he wants to control it because he hits it far enough regardless…if he really wants to launch one, he’ll tweak his setup and delivery to launch it higher. Many of the longer tour players would rather sacrifice a few yards to have a reliable flight. Tony Finau spoke to this….he doesn’t try to get optimized trackman numbers…because he can’t control a high launch low spin ball…aims for 2600 spin
It’s still about launch data. Another great example is Rahm. He may hit down w/driver since his driver is set at 10.5*. That’s where dynamic (delivered) loft is one of the key data points to look at on monitor.
120+ club head speed and slightly down (like 1 degree) can work with the right head and dynamic loft..
Tiger used to hit down with the driver during his golden years. Wanted the control and spin it offers. I don’t know if he still does.
@@MarkArnold92660 That’s not true if you’re talking during his Butch Harmon tutelage. I recall an interview w/Butch where he specifically discussed Tiger’s driver swing. This was back when Tiger was only player on tour still using a DG in his driver. Butch was very specific not only on his aoa but how consistent he was. It was something like +2.6* and NEVER varied by more than +\- 0.1*. He said he’s never worked with a player who was better than +\- 0.5*.
Given how Tiger has always used among the strongest lofted drivers on tour, 7.5-9.0, it would be highly improbable he would ever have a negative aoa w/driver. A player w/negative aoa would commonly have relatively high driver loft, such as Rahm and his 10.5* driver.
A 10 year old driver head can produce similar numbers with brand new so long as the shaft is premium. *cough cough* Ventus. 😂
mikey does not want to be there
What's an ideal shaft weight, flex and torque for a person with 95 MPH driver swing speed? Thanks! @clubchampionmedia ⛳
There is no one ideal shaft for that scenario. It depends on timing, transition, release point and even manufacturer and model. First - there is no fixed definition for shaft flex. A MRC Grand Bassara in R will be way different from a PX 4G black in R. Secondly -there is no universal way to measure torque. 5 Inch clamp, 7 inch clamp, different weights, different levers….heck, some manufacturers even clamp butt and tip and measure torque in the middle of the shaft. Thirdly - there is your personal preference…what you want to feel, when swinging your club. To cut a long story short: go and get fit.
We couldn't have said it better! Getting fit is the only way to know what will be best for you and your own game!