Hi Howard, thanks for bringing this to our attention. Do you have any rare plants or animals that are subject to protection? If so find evidence of these and you have good grounds to get it stopped. The sites of the 'Mondego narcissus' provide some areas of protection near us, further north by Fornos. And if necessary we'll protest at the CM in Guarda - if this is where the decision is to be taken.
Love Portugal, signed petition, best of luck! 🙏🌸🌳🕊 Financial interest put before the people and their culture, happening all over Europe. Shocking! Love and support from Ireland. ❤
Ja é a segunda vez que escrevo no teu canal, e é sempre para te agradecer o que fazes por portugal, da primeira foi por teres plantado arvores e este foi por estares a proteger as paisagens, obrigado...
We are with you... We will fight so that this environmental crime does not materialize... May God intervene in this situation and not let these unscrupulous businessmen come and destroy our secular lands...
Petition signed. Please everyone sign it also. Only asks for you name and email address. Comment by saying you object to any proposed expansion plans. Unfortunately this could be a start of things to come in Portugal 😢 Money, power and greed, with a bit of curruption also with no doubt? 😮
Oh my ,,,,awful,,awful news. Here in the Alpujarras ,Spain,we have a fight going on against turbines,solar Parks,and the deliberate burning of forests to clear space for these plans. These companies also revela plans in August,and give us till September 8th to retaliate ..when people are away,or beaten down by the heat.They want to industrialize the sea and land for private gain..They are doing it in Skye also,,,well in very many places..ravaging the environment.......sending support and strength to all of you over there❤ signed
Ja assinei e publiquei em grupos do Facebook de defesa das arvores e das aldeias de portugal. Surreal ainda continuarmos com esta politica de destruiçao ambiental em portugal.
Stay strong, thank you for your hard work, our family here on a hilly offgrid place in România encountered deforestations and overgrazing in our area, we kept fighting to stop the erosions ever since we moved, about 9 ys ago , tough everywhere❤
Cumprimentos do Algarve. Há varios anos tivemos uma luta contra um empreendimento turistico num local rural completemente improprio para tal ' desenvolvimento '. Conseguimos impedir o avanço deste projeto depois de anos de ações e litígio contre a Camera e o empreteiro. Valeu a pena. Boa sorte.
Howard, are there any lawyers involved with stopping this mining project, or organizations working against it? Can you list any details you know here so I can follow up? Usually when there is approval for a devastating project like this, someone was paid off to approve it, the whole story needs to come out, whether the corruption is current or in the past.
@@howardsportugal Its arson. The people know that it is ilegal to do fire in summer and they do it anyway. They should have the same criminal treatment as incendiaries. It should be 25 years of jail with no parole. Unfortunately my country is run by idiots, ignorants, incompetents and corrupt politicians. I already signed the petition.
Oh goodness, I'm so sorry to hear this - especially for those of you who live in this beautiful area. I have booked flights to come out at the end of the month to look at land where you are, precisely for all of the reasons you've described; now I'm wondering whether I should look elsewhere. I left the UK in 2018, and have been travelling since. Portugal really appeals to me, beautiful countryside, lovely people, sunshine... and I'm astonished that this mine expansion is being considered. Although, of course, money talks. In any case, I've signed the petition and send you all my very best wishes and love. I will keep watching your channel, and help wherever I can.
E... voilá! Os suspeitos fogos na Serra da Estrela começam a ter uma razão de ser. Ainda temos de esperar pelas plantações de eucaliptos, nas areas que foram ardidas tal como aconteceu em Monchique e na região do Luso, totalmente destruídas por eucaliptais. Adeus paisagem, adeus agricultura e sobretudo, adeus humanos 😔!
We have to say NO to most offerd jobs..in and within War the Earth and all Livin.. NO to most industrie and money just for jobs.. Work Life and Peace Regionaly workin Humans
Signed and shared and will follow up. Thank you for standing up and taking action. This is a serious matter that hardly gets any media attention until a lot of people stand up. The day will come when all these politicians signing these contracts will face legal action, even if decades pass.
I did sign the petition Howard but hold little hope as money always talks harder than peoples feelings, unfortunately.♥ I will hope and pray it turns out very different this once.☺
I follow a lot of people in your area so I understand. Very dry and that river is needed for rural and city use as well as the life of country and planet
I will sign. But the mining will continue - if not there, then in some other place. There is sadly just ONE overwhelming problem on this planet : that one rapacious species has colonised every part, has no predator but does have a ridiculous sense of entitlement. Human. It was good that you mention the habitat destruction for non-humans also. But almost everything we humans do impacts harmfully on others : human and non-human. It's sad that one cannot make clay objects without destroying lives. Wish you well.
It's all about money. No care or consideration will be made for the environment or the lamdscape or people who live in, or arround the area. No doubt curruption will also be part of the process, the reason it has got as far as they have. I will of course sign the petition, I live in this lovely country also, but oftern wonder for how long?!. Good luck and keep us all upto date, with as much as you can? Thank you
Steve this video is so good 👌! Can I share it? Thank you Thank you Thank you for explaining so clearly! It is one of the best videos I have seen on reach out for support via youtube, clear, very real and authentic. Very very good. I cannot wait to see your channel blow up, see your subscription blasting with hundreds of thousands subcribers. down to earth channel
Olá, vou divulgar a petição, moro próximo a vocês na Serra da Estrela em uma quinta em vale de azares, boa sorte, se precisarem de algo estaremos por aqui.
I did sign but hope it is valid as I don’t live in Portugal. Good luck. We have lots of problems here in Australia. Now government is talking nuclear again. Lots of wind farms here.
✍️🧐 Signed and shared on "Facebook" 🇵🇹 People of Portugal, where are you? 🌏 Global citizen, where are you? ✍️🧐 Sign the petition now. 💕 Only the "Union of the People" can overthrow senseless governments, greedy companies, and decisions that destroy the nature of the country itself.
Not that I am aware of, no...always worth getting a proper search done, though! We were told that the mine was not going to be allowed to expand due to its proximity to the national park...
Europe is dying and it's because of this mentality that nothing can be done, everything has to be controlled by the state, cows are bad for the environment, solar panels are ugly and I don't want them near my farm.
✍️🧐 Assinado e compartilhado no "Face". 🇵🇹 Povo de Portugal, onde estão vocês? 🌏 Cidadão global, onde estão vocês? ✍️🧐 Assinem já. Só a "União do Povo" pode derrubar governos insensatos, empresas gananciosas, e decisões que acabam com a natureza do próprio país.
had to drive north to aviero once (dont like going north of gardunha as on its other side of fruity farming , is beginning of the dead north which is industrously ,populated ) overpopulated the more north you go towards porto, polluted portugal starts at fundao but as you pass zezere @ covilha heading to guarda on the right is miles and miles of large scale contruction /expansion and a chewing up of mountain side , not sure if its a highway a railway or a big factorys complexes access rail and road , this man here , howard doesnt show the already scarred malcata estrella valley north east of covilha a 20 km stretch of real sized tonka doing big operation
I don't know that region - we are lucky that here is relatively unspoiled. Don't get me wrong, I am not against progress, but the rhetoric that this area is "underpopulated" is not true - sure, we could do with more people but it is not a wasteland. All the best.
Unbelievable that after so many years Portugal still wants to be the ass of Europe. We will be worst than Romenia when it come to enviroment. Disgraceful. Please sign the petition. It's nice to see that has to be a British gentleman to help in the protection of our Portugal. Thank you Sir for caring for the place where you live. Thank you.
If it is the West that earns with the lithium then it's the West that has to dig in its OWN land and not in Africa for example. But I do understand your concern. We have to ask ourselves the question: are EV cars really green???
Hi Serge, we are on the edge of the Serra da Estrella - we don't tend to divulge the name of the village for obvious reasons! Cheers for coming on the journey!
Yeah, it seams prety clear. Im all for it. Then, in that zone, seize all cellphones with lithium bateries, all hybrid cars and, last but not the least, all electric cars people own in that area, starting with the video publisher. Hypocrit at work. They dont want lithium mines, but they sure love their nice smartphones, cars, etc. equiped with lithium bateries. For them lithium its cool, just not at their door step, but from someone else neighbourwood its all good.
Agreed that everything has to come from somewhere, and sure, people all seem to want the latest stuff, but that in itself is not sustainable. The mine here is for ceramics, not for batteries, and the impact on tourism, the degradation of water sources and many other factors outweigh any economic benefit of this particular operation. Cheers for taking the time to comment.
Para mim o estranho é ver os estranhos ao nosso país a lutarem por ele, Portugueses não têm vergonha de deixar isto acontecer? Os estrangeiros agora têm opiniões a dar sobre o meu país? Não acordem que não é preciso! E claro que esta história do lítio é mais uma das hipocrisias dos nossos governantes, ou melhor, dos sabujos da UE. Vamos ter cidades limpas e todo o país destruído por esta loucura dos carros "verdes"
Please do sign the petition - thank you so much
Yes don't destroy the land
Signed! Thanks for you video!
if you're not Portuguese, this pettion worth nothing
Now you know why the fires. They were set all over for various development projects.
Hi Howard, thanks for bringing this to our attention. Do you have any rare plants or animals that are subject to protection? If so find evidence of these and you have good grounds to get it stopped. The sites of the 'Mondego narcissus' provide some areas of protection near us, further north by Fornos. And if necessary we'll protest at the CM in Guarda - if this is where the decision is to be taken.
Corruption at high level,same here in bonkers Spain,God help us all🙏
Love Portugal, signed petition, best of luck! 🙏🌸🌳🕊
Financial interest put before the people and their culture, happening all over Europe.
Shocking!
Love and support from Ireland. ❤
Thank you! All the best!
Well if we look the other way around, it'll economically benefits the home owners that made a cheap investment here and now are speculating.
That is of course a valid argument...there are always two sides to everything but I guess one has to weigh up the long-term greater good.
These demons want the life in the whole planet destroyed
Profit comes first in the minds of many people...
Ja é a segunda vez que escrevo no teu canal, e é sempre para te agradecer o que fazes por portugal, da primeira foi por teres plantado arvores e este foi por estares a proteger as paisagens, obrigado...
Muito obrigado, Miguel!
Muito obrigado!
I have never been to Portugal YET, but, signed your petition. What a beautiful country!
Thank you!
same here, thank you and good luck
We are with you... We will fight so that this environmental crime does not materialize... May God intervene in this situation and not let these unscrupulous businessmen come and destroy our secular lands...
Petition signed. Please everyone sign it also. Only asks for you name and email address. Comment by saying you object to any proposed expansion plans. Unfortunately this could be a start of things to come in Portugal 😢 Money, power and greed, with a bit of curruption also with no doubt? 😮
Oh my ,,,,awful,,awful news. Here in the Alpujarras ,Spain,we have a fight going on against turbines,solar Parks,and the deliberate burning of forests to clear space for these plans. These companies also revela plans in August,and give us till September 8th to retaliate ..when people are away,or beaten down by the heat.They want to industrialize the sea and land for private gain..They are doing it in Skye also,,,well in very many places..ravaging the environment.......sending support and strength to all of you over there❤ signed
Thank you! Much of these "green" schemes are anything but...
Siempre lo mismo con estás mineras.No se puede permitir tanto atropello.Gracias por denunciarlo.Abrazo solidario desde Uruguay
Ja assinei e publiquei em grupos do Facebook de defesa das arvores e das aldeias de portugal.
Surreal ainda continuarmos com esta politica de destruiçao ambiental em portugal.
Obrigado!
Leave it in the ground. WTF, Portugal?!
Precisamos de mais pessoas como tu em Portugal! Obrigada
Muito obrigada. Somos juntos!
Stay strong, thank you for your hard work, our family here on a hilly offgrid place in România encountered deforestations and overgrazing in our area, we kept fighting to stop the erosions ever since we moved, about 9 ys ago , tough everywhere❤
Obrigada ppr ter criado esta petição. Já assinei.
Saudações de Águeda, Portugal.
Obrigado! Foi creada por uma amiga Portuguesa!
Cumprimentos do Algarve. Há varios anos tivemos uma luta contra um empreendimento turistico num local rural completemente improprio para tal ' desenvolvimento '. Conseguimos impedir o avanço deste projeto depois de anos de ações e litígio contre a Camera e o empreteiro. Valeu a pena. Boa sorte.
Obrigado!!
This is disgusting! Thank you for sharing the petition
Thank you for your help!
Howard, are there any lawyers involved with stopping this mining project, or organizations working against it? Can you list any details you know here so I can follow up? Usually when there is approval for a devastating project like this, someone was paid off to approve it, the whole story needs to come out, whether the corruption is current or in the past.
We are looking for representation - there are a lot of people working very hard locally...
Yes, the association (I am only a very small part of the group!) has lawyers going through everything. Cheers!
People asking why Portugal and spain selling up all across their countries.
Theres no such thing as wildfires. Its arson.
Correct...Arson or Negligence. Official figures show that less than 1% of wildfires in Portugal have a natural origin.
@@howardsportugal Its arson. The people know that it is ilegal to do fire in summer and they do it anyway. They should have the same criminal treatment as incendiaries. It should be 25 years of jail with no parole. Unfortunately my country is run by idiots, ignorants, incompetents and corrupt politicians. I already signed the petition.
I hate it when morons try to argue otherwise...
Ive been in a forest when it caught fire from lighting, So it does exist.
@@howardsportugal source? Obrigado
SIGNED and shared in fb and in vk - - - this makes me sick to the stomac , even though I'm not in Portugal.
Thank you!!
Yes it’s very worried 😢. And people just thinking about the money they don’t care about people and everything else around 😢
Yes insects hardly any especially windscreens in many countries
Petiton signed! Thanks for letting us know about that huge problem in the center of Portugal. Thanks for your support and your work.
Thank you! There are hundreds working together!
What a horrible idea, I will try to spread this!!
Obrigado, pela divulgação de tais atentados.
Signed, the country has to stay a beautiful nature. And let people enjoy those views en nature
Oh goodness, I'm so sorry to hear this - especially for those of you who live in this beautiful area. I have booked flights to come out at the end of the month to look at land where you are, precisely for all of the reasons you've described; now I'm wondering whether I should look elsewhere. I left the UK in 2018, and have been travelling since. Portugal really appeals to me, beautiful countryside, lovely people, sunshine... and I'm astonished that this mine expansion is being considered. Although, of course, money talks.
In any case, I've signed the petition and send you all my very best wishes and love. I will keep watching your channel, and help wherever I can.
Thank you! Don't be put off coming to look at Portugal - such a beautiful country & people
E... voilá! Os suspeitos fogos na Serra da Estrela começam a ter uma razão de ser. Ainda temos de esperar pelas plantações de eucaliptos, nas areas que foram ardidas tal como aconteceu em Monchique e na região do Luso, totalmente destruídas por eucaliptais. Adeus paisagem, adeus agricultura e sobretudo, adeus humanos 😔!
the same are doing in the north, where I am. It's a shame
Let's join forces - thank you!
Yep, Portugal is one of the most 'woke' countries. Your petitions are useless.
We have to say NO to most offerd jobs..in and within War the Earth and all Livin..
NO to most industrie and money just for jobs..
Work Life and Peace
Regionaly workin Humans
Good Morning, signed up and good look fighting the machine, good look to you all from even further north.
Thank you!!
You are more than welcome and apologies, 'look' is obviously 'luck'.
Assinada. Obrigada pela iniciativa e por se preocupar com assunto ❤🙏
I just signed and am a new subscriber. Let's also pray that this expansion is stopped.
Thank you!
Signed and shared and will follow up. Thank you for standing up and taking action. This is a serious matter that hardly gets any media attention until a lot of people stand up. The day will come when all these politicians signing these contracts will face legal action, even if decades pass.
Thank you! We are hoping to get some TV coverage...
I did sign the petition Howard but hold little hope as money always talks harder than peoples feelings, unfortunately.♥ I will hope and pray it turns out very different this once.☺
Thank you, Anne - much appreciated!
Thanks, Anne!
Signed and passed forward. Fight like hell! Thank you
Tnank you!
Very sad to hear this, and hope it is opposed.👍
Misión cumplida ! espero que la gente se ponga la mano en el corazón por cuidar la única tierra ........Saludo cordial.-
Gracias!
signed! thank you for your work
Thank you!
I follow a lot of people in your area so I understand. Very dry and that river is needed for rural and city use as well as the life of country and planet
I sign the petition I hope it helps Howard 😇💗💗💗 love and bless you guys 🙏💞
@@arjanvogel6444 thank you so much!
I will sign. But the mining will continue - if not there, then in some other place. There is sadly just ONE overwhelming problem on this planet : that one rapacious species has colonised every part, has no predator but does have a ridiculous sense of entitlement. Human.
It was good that you mention the habitat destruction for non-humans also. But almost everything we humans do impacts harmfully on others : human and non-human. It's sad that one cannot make clay objects without destroying lives. Wish you well.
Signed. I do hope you're able to save her.
It's all about money. No care or consideration will be made for the environment or the lamdscape or people who live in, or arround the area. No doubt curruption will also be part of the process, the reason it has got as far as they have. I will of course sign the petition, I live in this lovely country also, but oftern wonder for how long?!. Good luck and keep us all upto date, with as much as you can? Thank you
Steve this video is so good 👌! Can I share it? Thank you Thank you Thank you for explaining so clearly! It is one of the best videos I have seen on reach out for support via youtube, clear, very real and authentic. Very very good. I cannot wait to see your channel blow up, see your subscription blasting with hundreds of thousands subcribers. down to earth channel
Of course, please do share. Thanks!
Olá, vou divulgar a petição, moro próximo a vocês na Serra da Estrela em uma quinta em vale de azares, boa sorte, se precisarem de algo estaremos por aqui.
Obrigado! Seramos na Gonçalo o dia 21 Agosto, 21h
Ola’ Howard can you put this Petition in the news paper 📝👍
@@johnpierce2390 hi John, we are trying to share itvas widely as possible from posters to TV!
You’re completely right , but they will do it ….
They'll try...it is a comercial concern.
I did sign but hope it is valid as I don’t live in Portugal. Good luck. We have lots of problems here in Australia. Now government is talking nuclear again. Lots of wind farms here.
Thank you - sending you all the best!
a mine produces some jobs, locally
and a mine produces materials that creates a lot of jobs in industry
humans want jobs
True...but the impact on tourism & the natural envirnment is greater than the return on any mining activities
✍️🧐 Signed and shared on "Facebook"
🇵🇹 People of Portugal, where are you?
🌏 Global citizen, where are you?
✍️🧐 Sign the petition now.
💕 Only the "Union of the People" can overthrow senseless governments, greedy companies, and decisions that destroy the nature of the country itself.
Thank you!!
Devastating 😔.... I'll share your video on my channel.
Thanks!
Signed.
Força amigo. The same here in Tras-os-Montes, they will destroy the land.
Thanks!! We are looking to join forces with others - there is a link to our group's facebook page in the description if you'd like to check it out...
Love the work you are doing...
Thank you!!
Thank you! Sorry for the slow reply...been inundated! All the best!
We have all signed the petition individually 😊
Superb, thanks
Webthe people got the power united we stand alone we fall
Divided we fall for sure...
Done. Does this affect the village of Silvares? I have been looking at buying a house in that area.
Not that I am aware of, no...always worth getting a proper search done, though! We were told that the mine was not going to be allowed to expand due to its proximity to the national park...
Europe is dying and it's because of this mentality that nothing can be done, everything has to be controlled by the state, cows are bad for the environment, solar panels are ugly and I don't want them near my farm.
"this mentality" is a agenda planned many years ago
Signed and shared.
Terrible news. Signed and shared.
Thank you!
Signed!!
Thank you!!
Signed
Just remembered chaos theory after signing.
Follow the money
Always!
Thank you!
Signed it.
Thank you!
Signed. I wish you guys luck. Such a beautiful area to be destroyed for nothing.😢
Thank you!
I think I signed it anyway
✍️🧐 Assinado e compartilhado no "Face".
🇵🇹 Povo de Portugal, onde estão vocês?
🌏 Cidadão global, onde estão vocês?
✍️🧐 Assinem já. Só a "União do Povo" pode derrubar governos insensatos, empresas gananciosas, e decisões que acabam com a natureza do próprio país.
Obrigado - região da Guarda...
I sign the petition I hope it helps
Thanks!!
All because of stupid ceramic tiles....
Quite!
had to drive north to aviero once (dont like going north of gardunha as on its other side of fruity farming , is beginning of the dead north which is industrously ,populated ) overpopulated the more north you go towards porto, polluted portugal starts at fundao but as you pass zezere @ covilha heading to guarda on the right is miles and miles of large scale contruction /expansion and a chewing up of mountain side , not sure if its a highway a railway or a big factorys complexes access rail and road , this man here , howard doesnt show the already scarred malcata estrella valley north east of covilha a 20 km stretch of real sized tonka doing big operation
I don't know that region - we are lucky that here is relatively unspoiled. Don't get me wrong, I am not against progress, but the rhetoric that this area is "underpopulated" is not true - sure, we could do with more people but it is not a wasteland. All the best.
Como se acede à petição por favor?
No descripcão do video - obrigado!
Unbelievable that after so many years Portugal still wants to be the ass of Europe. We will be worst than Romenia when it come to enviroment. Disgraceful. Please sign the petition. It's nice to see that has to be a British gentleman to help in the protection of our Portugal. Thank you Sir for caring for the place where you live. Thank you.
Thank you very much !
Not all hills, 3km2
If it is the West that earns with the lithium then it's the West that has to dig in its OWN land and not in Africa for example. But I do understand your concern. We have to ask ourselves the question: are EV cars really green???
Are EVs green? Absolutely not! Cheers!
I can’t figure out how to sign , it isn’t in English and just says book your appointment here 🤷🏼♀️ sorry 😞
Thanks for trying! It does normally give an option to translate the page but might be playing up...
Toyota has stated to concentrate on water to hydrogen vehicles. The Neutrino Powercube will soon be on the market.
Interesting...technology needs to be allowed to advance without government interference!
Done and shared ❤
Thank you!!
@@howardsportugal how much would it cost to buy all that land?
The mine should go ahead. Portugal badly needs economic development. It is not in a privileged enough position to forgo economic opportunity.
The econimic benefit of the mine is much less than that of tourism
Done it!
Super! Thank you!!
Super!
Signed. I hope you can stop it
🤞
Getekend 👍🏻
Protect Thacker Pass!
Send me a link!
@@howardsportugal th-cam.com/video/FBnPyeUpnK0/w-d-xo.html
Can i sign the petition if I am from a foreign country? For the petition I have to fill in a número civil.
You can, yes & no need to put in a number...many don't! Cheers
É preciso vir um estrangeiro proteger as terras lusas 💪
Obrigado..temos muitos Portugueses tambén no grupo!
Evel I tell you evel 😱😱😱😱😱
Done 👍👍
Thank you so much!
It will affect the water feeding Lisbon 😂
Remove a river's source, you reduce flow, yes.
Assinado!
Obrigado!
@@howardsportugal Keep it up, what you are doing for my/our country is very worthwhile. obrigado
Thank you so much!
I was blocked from signing !!!
Very odd!!
Hi there! I came across your channel by chance. In what part of Guarda are you located?
Just outside the Serra da Estrella park...
Hi Serge, we are on the edge of the Serra da Estrella - we don't tend to divulge the name of the village for obvious reasons! Cheers for coming on the journey!
341ha planned acording to your video, only 32ha stated in the petition... signed
First figure is the next expansion, the second is the total area of the concession...cheers!
how to leave a comment on the website of the project?
There should be a "translate" option...there is only a field for email & comments can be left below...cheers
If you go to participate.pt there is a link...You need to put "Guarda" into the search and you will see the mine consultation...cheers!
Tried to sign the petition, it said their was problem and to report, just letting you know
Thanks for that!
Yeah, it seams prety clear. Im all for it. Then, in that zone, seize all cellphones with lithium bateries, all hybrid cars and, last but not the least, all electric cars people own in that area, starting with the video publisher. Hypocrit at work. They dont want lithium mines, but they sure love their nice smartphones, cars, etc. equiped with lithium bateries. For them lithium its cool, just not at their door step, but from someone else neighbourwood its all good.
This lithium is not for batteries - it is for ceramics.
Can you send me the petition
Sure, here is the link... peticaopublica.com/mobile/pview.aspx?pi=Alvarroes
Our only saviour will be Jesus Christ. We can't stop human stupidness.
Agreed that everything has to come from somewhere, and sure, people all seem to want the latest stuff, but that in itself is not sustainable. The mine here is for ceramics, not for batteries, and the impact on tourism, the degradation of water sources and many other factors outweigh any economic benefit of this particular operation. Cheers for taking the time to comment.
Para mim o estranho é ver os estranhos ao nosso país a lutarem por ele, Portugueses não têm vergonha de deixar isto acontecer? Os estrangeiros agora têm opiniões a dar sobre o meu país? Não acordem que não é preciso! E claro que esta história do lítio é mais uma das hipocrisias dos nossos governantes, ou melhor, dos sabujos da UE. Vamos ter cidades limpas e todo o país destruído por esta loucura dos carros "verdes"
Somos muitos juntos na grupo...Os Portugueses são representadas, claro! Obrigado!