Yes, it is almost always correct that you must go see a property for yourself. However, we were buying and moving to portugal during covid and we were on the clock. We could not visit and time was critical. So we had a lawyer and real estate agent and a building inspector visit the property to make sure we knew everything possible. They inspected the house, video recording every square meter for us. We had live video calls. They video recorded the neighborhood, the wider region. We bought the house remotely, and fortunately it all worked out.
@@ayzie804 im in viseu. i would recommend our Lisbon based lawyer. The real estate people did a good job but we got the feeling there was less price negotiating on our behalf than we might have liked. But we didnt know.
Portuguese here... never get "a" lawyer in Portugal. Get at least one plus another that has knowledge of notary/registry of land, e.g. a "conservador" (keeper of registers). Preferably miles apart and not knowing about each other. Assure you have one of them properly translating all documentation back to you.
I have had great experiences with a Solicitador. They are very effective in all kinds of bureaucratic processes and I got all constructions of the previous owners legalised without a glitch.
@@lusofreak excellent advice. Especially about the land registry and notaries. The local junta and planning authorities are excellent people to ask for advice before you buy the land, afterwards is too late, as I'm sure you know but many don't. You can't buy land and do whatever you like on it, without risking everything you spend and more, It's a great pity many people don't understand the mistakes they can make with their life savings. Thanks for offering wise advice.
Portuguese who indeed bought some land. My main advise is make 100% sure of what are the real property limits. Both on the ground and on the papers. It's almost useless to say, but back in the day. Long ago. Sometimes land/properties were "adjusted" with some talk between men in the local tavern and sealed with a handshake. So, walls, fences, etc. are a major help to figure that out. Before you land on your neighbors property by (your) mistake. A nice conversation with your neighbor(s) tend to be a great help. Just to make sure all are on the same page regarding your intended property. After rejecting some 8 properties I finally ended up with one that had the limits 100% defined. Both on the ground and on the papers. nothing fancy and relatively cheap within my pocket range. But a true piece of mind. Worth mention that in Portugal house or property are taken extremely serious and are "sacred". To the point one don't enter someone's house/property without permission. Sometimes leading to extreme measures. So be aware.
Jasper excellent job on explaining house hunting and what a win both ways on the concept of trading off. Can certainly be advantageous for someone to help you out and have you help them out with a place to stay, learn, meet new friends and check out Portugal. Wow Jasper you're not just a pretty face.
Really good information. Excellent mini-course for anyone considering making a move. I might have anticipated mmost of those, but the partial ownership thing would have completely blindsided me, as would the idea of a house being on some one else's land.
I loved Mistake Number 5, simply because we are thinking of buying a property in Portugal and have therefore rented a house for September and October in the Penemacor district. First of all to see if it's something for us to live in the area. The Ghost Town has already been added to the "to visit" list.
This is why i'm highly weary of lawyers and people working in the realm of law and bureaucracy, you have to tell them to check out this or that, to keep an eye on this or that or else they screw up. It's like they only do their job properly if you show them clearly that you are as well informed or even better informed than them, but then, why the hell do you need them for? Basically, most of them are a bunch of crooks!
you are quite right about that. btw, the realtor is not a meddler, he works for the seller and gives as few info as possible. and our?? lawyer seems to collaborate with the realtor, which brings us to a second lawyer in a different town to bring a fraud case before a public prosecutor. however, not all is lost, we already occupied the house and did not pay the whole sum yet, because we insist on the promised habitation licence mentioned in the contract. they want our money, so they have to fullfill the contract somehow, although they don t like that.
@@GhostTownVlogs That's for sure your schedule is on Dutch time, still you have progressed very well, and I do enjoy the content, and the right and wrong ways of fixing them, keep up the good work.
Great video and thanks for looking into it as after my last comment about people buying their property and it turned out not to be theirs, well all i got was you need a Lawler. That's not the point estate agent's and lawyers should know what they are doing. Iv put this because it's the same in Greece so i now need to spend time and money to find out what's belongs to me.
It sounds like is a mine field the PT property market ,it feels like this sector needs a lot of improvements, having said that the people are fantastic as long as you do not enter any big financial transaction with them, very informative video thanks.
Its not more difficult than in any other country. You just need to know the national laws. And I really believe that its easier and clearer than in most other EU countries. You should nowhere buy property without legal advice.
I'm looking to purchase a small house in central region, only because it is affordable there, but I'd rather be closer to the ocean because as you said, it's cooler. Thanx for all the info.
Hello. Thank you for the great video. How can i contact you about volenteering? I tried to find access to the map database for checking properties you showed, but i feel im just led in circles in the gov sites. Can you tell me how to get to these maps you showed?
Jasper je legt het weer heerlijk eerlijk uit. Ik volg je vanaf het begin. Dat je nog eens een uitzending deed samen met Melanie. Bied me nog een keer aan als vrijwilliger. Als het hier thuis wat minder hectisch is Groet Marco
For these kind of mistakes, all real state agents and agencies have an insurance that serves to indemnify the clients. But, BEFORE you buy ask for the topographic plan.
Hi - thanks for a great video, very elumenating! On the Cadastral section search, on the building registary map I see some letters (presumably corosponding to the designation of the land) would you know where I can find the meaning for these? one is PN and the other is CA. Thanks.
Je hebt groot gelijk, alhoewel onderhandelen mij nog niet mee is gevallen. Uiteindelijk hadden we een deal, Koch lt de buurman het voor die lage prijs!
Thanks for the information, I'm planning to come in April to look for land. I'd be happy if you could recommend a good lawyer who can inspect the land and the property.
Dankjewel voor deze video🙏wij zijn in het proces van ons huis verkopen in NL en dan met de camper naar Portugal te vertrekken...meerdere bergenaren zijn ons al voorgegaan😅Wij zijn al jaren aant wikken en wegen,maar nu de knoop doorgehakt!Hopelijk vinden we een mooi plekje in portugal en met deze tips komt het vast goed😅 ❤
You know, I was wondering if you had thought to put the word out for some volunteer helpers with all the work you have under way ... and here you are doing exactly that :D An excellent idea. In large part, you are doing in Portugal what I wanted to do here in England - find a long abandoned rural village and bring it back to life. But regulations and prices are not conducive to such fun dreams here I am sad to say.
Hi Jasper Very good info i'm in the process of buying a property in portugal central area .. out of the 5 you list i have done 1 and that one is got a lawyer so 1 out of 5 is not bad what could possibly go wrong lol,,
Excellent video with sound advice. Love your clean and well organized workshop. Tell us did you get the parts of your home that weren't registered, registered? Is your gardener/cook one of the volunteers? I see people come and go but never know who they are.
And we also love haggling, but this is because we have our methods to avoid big gov control. We call it Ayni in Quechua. This goes way beyond the idea of "exchange": it is really becoming part of the highest or greatest flow of energy within the organic weave and not resisting it as gringos programmed in matrix do. It is generative, circular and syntropic.
yes, that is why this gringa/latina wants so desperately to get out of the country....ASAP....This country is going to the toilet...justice is blind, people are getting crazier, law is for the poor and minorities but never applied for the top tier of people with money...and the list goes on and on...
You are correct for the summer. But in the winter its quite a bit colder here than in the Algarve. I even had a few snowflakes this year near to Leiria🤪 Most important is that you have reliable heating.
Great video, very useful info, thanks! I'm planing to buy land on the north. Could you please recommend there I can find info(perhaps in some of your videos) regarding the renovating the house: what parts(roof, floor, etc) of the house I can repair by my self(I have some construction experience) and for what I will have to(according to law) delegate to licensed professionals?
Well done for knowing that renovation of old buildings needs professional imput. To become a legal dwelling and sold as such I believe becomes a " project" therefore requires and architect and a structural engineer. I believe in some buildings it's possible to live and be classed as a barn but cannot be sold as a house later. The local council or "camera" will give you helpful advice and refer you to the local building regulation authority. Good luck, you need specialist advice from a qualified legal professional not really opinions like mine from strangers. My experience is from supporting a friend buy an old quinta, he's a very happy man, because he had the benefit of honest professionals, with a good local reputation. Several friends were conned by dishonest estate agents. Good luck
One very important point is that all the owners of neighbouring plots have declined in writing the opportunity to buy the property you wish to buy at the price you are paying. If this has not happened a neighbour has the legal right to buy the property you own even years later at the price you paid. The warning not to buy more land than you can maintain is a very important tip, it's not a common problem in Northern Europe that land can become a burden, so bigger isn't always better in Portugal. Don't assume you can sell at the price you pay if things don't work out, you may not be able to sell at all. Dirt roads are difficult to maintain when rain washes them away and can become to rutted to use ordinary cars. Renovation of old buildings into legal dwellings is expensive, they become a "project" and must have an architect and structural engineer approval. Not all land can be lived on without the appropriate authority, so know what you are buying. Check with the local " Camera" the council officials are very helpful, they will tell the truth, your estate agent just wants to sell and may just say what you want to hear. Meet the locals, your neighbours, will they welcome you? Information and advice from local area is so helpful, they live there, their knowledge is priceless. Good luck it's a fantastic country.
@@evelynalexanderpentner9988 Hi, the reason I made those comments is that I was with a friend who bought a small Quinta. His estate agent was a wonderful lady, well respected by many Northern European expats and locals alike. I don't want to identify her by giving too many details which is a pity because I can't recommend her highly enough or I would gladly let others know how helpful she was. The most important reason for my trust is that she prevented my friend for buying a piece of land with terrible legal issues, it didn't even belong to the person trying to sell it. The lady spoke English and Portuguese and worked as a translator, she knew the law and explained every detail. Living in the area now my friend has learnt how many other people have been ripped off and had terrible experiences that cost tens of thousands of pounds. The lady helped with many other issues like insurance tax, residency etc. She is a good person which was lucky as there are many pit fall in buying from large estate agents especially, she was with a small local independent agency. The bits about planning and the local Junta have been learnt from friends dealing with building issues and listening to the lady who dealt with many professional builders architects and legal experts. Don't trust most estate agents, it's very rare to get one that is both honest and knowledgeable, go to the offices who make the rules, most speak English, go by what they say you will also build goodwill that way. Northern Europeans flashing the cash locally but ignoring the rules upset people who can be of great assistance when treated with respect. You can go to find out about who owns land etc by the land registry online and also speak to notaries who do the land transfers. My friend was helped throughout by the locals because he asks nicely for help and lives modestly. Good luck I hope what I say is useful and answers your question to some extent. If you need better information I will try to answer but my knowledge is obviously not as deep as the locals and based only on general knowledge of people I know.
@lynne2774 : Thank you for to write so much infos, we are long time here we saw even so much. The thing is when you come fresh here, all is nice, you see diverent thinks ans so on, the brain is out, settle down, come down , get enough information, and be carefully with the money. Thank you , we move now from the Algarve to Pedrogão Grande, Greatings Evelyn & Alexander
To make sure the land or ruin was built before 1951 its better to contact the "financas" with eportal and ask them, OR get a lawer to do it for you it costs around 200 euros.. a lot of land ruins and old houses were registered mid 1970s but in fact they were built before 1951 and thats what you want, the "financas" have those registers.. or you can ask the army for a satelite picture of the land pre 1951 and you can present that as proof too.
Hazel ☘️ Great information …. A good lawyer is worth their weight in gold … but remember they too have to wait on documents going back and forward from government offices , so it’s easy to say “great lawyer, but they are terribly slow” My “4 week “turnover from agreement to finalisation is still ongoing 9 months later ! … but that’s coz my lawyer is efficient and discovered missing land even the previous owner was not aware of … and didn’t know he owned … so waiting is a pain , but can be to your advantage … Love to you Renato and the girlies … I’m still on tenterhooks to know for sure if Akira is pregnant ?.. (Or have I somehow missed the update. .? ) 🙏☘️😘
Of course! All these “mistakes” is not just in Portugal, but anywhere! Of course you want to see the property, best initial investment you can make. A lot of parts of Portugal ownership has been transferred word of mouth for generations, nothing written/registered, hard to know what the actual property is.
Buying in land property in Portugal can be very intricated since general information is scatered all over the place: by not knowing the laws your best source of information should be a notary that normaly inland make 90% of the buying and selling properties. 1 - see the adverts that you like on-line and select at least 6 properties. 2 - come to see what you choose in person by contacting the n. on the advert . 3 -Ask for papers from the properties. 4 - Go to a notary in this region so that he/she can tell you: if it is owned by the seller, if it has any debts, if it´s legal, what kind of license it have, if there is any preference of family members on buying, etc. 5 - Go yourself to the Urban department of the city hall ask the technician responsable for that region what you can and cannot do with that property. 6 - if there is no more doubts, then it´s ready for you to buy it through it´s legal act that is called Escritura. - 7 - Go to the same notary and set the date.
As with everything in life, if you don't understand anything about a subject, it's better to pay and consult experts, this is the first step and this applies to Portugal or another country. In the case of purchasing property there are things that the interested buyer can do, go to the location and check the property limits and of course negotiate at the end, in between there are details that only have access if consult experts, lawyers are not exactly the most suitable or even the real estate agents. The only experts in the field capable of providing the best information are technicians who work in the design or evaluation area, architects or engineers and on behalf of them request preliminary documents for analysis and go to the site to check and analyze the condition of the building. It's a bit like when I go to buy a second-hand car, if I take a mechanic with me to analyze the condition of the car I can negotiate better or even not make a deal at all. To do a good deal, the number one rule is to have knowledge of the area where you are negotiating and if you don't, you must hire experts to help you.
No I don’t agree with the first sentence already.. I think it is better to learn anything yourself 😊 except for lawyers or Docters.. although sometimes your even better off not listen to them also
Remenber that the value o IMI is not the value o the property at the market. Its a evaluation that the Tax Office made back then to calculate the tax that you pay each year. Normally if its an old property or house its not updated and its lower tax. New houses pay a lot of IMI, and remenber dont mess with Tax Office, if you dont oay the tax of IMi its a big problem and at the end you could lose the properties cars etc etc
Most of old houses prices on the book are way off a lot more than 10 years, theres land and ruins worth hundreds of thousands and still showing 4k-6k value with yearly tax of 50 euros lol
"We were very good negotiators somewhere in history.." Back then your ways of negotiating were quite different, ask the Dutch East India Company about that.😂
I bought mine during covid when I could not visit. I also paid te asking price as it came with an other purchasing deal. Water and electricity are only 6 feet away. I don't care because I am staying off grid. The lack of facilities can be a bonus if you want to be offgrid. Now I just need to fix it up. I am not sure about the boundaries but I see I can now look it up. My lawyer just cleared of before completing the job. My new solicitor is pure gold. The location is perfect it's just home. By the way learn Portuguese or you will have a very limited group of friends. I have loads of friends.
Yes, Jan Van Riebeeck negotiated his way into South Africa, and we are still here after almost 400 years, and up until 120 years ago we still spoke dutch, and even 80 years ago our Bibles were also Dutch, my Grandfather who died 50 years ago spoke Dutch, now we speak Afrikaans.
I just hope the Portugeuse know that you are going to turn their country into little Holland and start your own version of Dutch, LOL! If you can do that ,I am sure many Afrikaners will go and live in your Little Holland. LOL!
Can you get rid of the old house on the property you bought and replace it with a tiny house? Or do you need to buy empty land to have one? What are the chances of landing a tiny house on a Plot in Portugal? The houses in the villages look very old, I need to build my house in a rural area away from the old villages..
Rural lands that do not have a house built cannot be built. Rural lands are only for rural activity purposes, so it is necessary to know where rural and urban lands begin and end in order to have confirmation. And there is a difference, sometimes just a few meters separate what is rural from what is considered urban. Each parish has its own rules, including regarding modifications to facades. Practically few allow this possibility. In some, even the color of the roof is standardized. Any modification requires authorization and permission from the local council. The interior of the houses can be modified, but the exterior, such as facades, windows, and doors, must be modified with authorization. I don't know if this is true, but in some villages the council offers a subsidy of the cost of the material to be used on the facades, but only for painting. Another detail is that not all heirs are in Europe. Some are in Brazil, which is too far away and too expensive to travel to sign papers, and some are also old. These are all important issues to check.
@@lolitabonita08 I never paid any even when living in Europe or Canada. It was easy as a classical free lance musician. I did file though, just my costs were very high: piano, viola, violin, clothes, contact lenses, car, gas, master classes, it's surprising how I even ate food!!
Do you pay taxes one time only when you buy the property ? Or is it every year and what is the tax based on . Is it a % of what you paid or do the say yeah we’re going to charge what we think the property is worth? Tak.
The "valor patrimonial" from the tax office is not related to the commercial price. The market is more volatile and subjective. The "valor patrimonial" is used to determine the tax you have to pay. I believe that what is essential is to hire a reliable and good real estate agent, because lawyers are not experts on real estate. As far as negotiation, it really depends a lot. A good professional that knows the market will help with the fair price. For sure, the best advice is getting to know where you want to go :) It does rain! Portugal is not a tropical country, and we do have a winter.
Yeah... recently they sell you a rotten barn as a nice house in Portugal. It's all about making money and they are not scared to lie to you. Noticed a lot of video's about those sellers, and if 75% of the video is filled with nice olive trees and other greenery, instead of the building you now you are scammed.
Yes, it is almost always correct that you must go see a property for yourself. However, we were buying and moving to portugal during covid and we were on the clock. We could not visit and time was critical. So we had a lawyer and real estate agent and a building inspector visit the property to make sure we knew everything possible. They inspected the house, video recording every square meter for us. We had live video calls. They video recorded the neighborhood, the wider region. We bought the house remotely, and fortunately it all worked out.
Happy that it worked out for you! Would you recommend the people you worked with? In which region are you? Cheers, Alex
@@ayzie804 We are in viseu. I would recommend our lawyer, but I'm not sure about the real estate people.
@@ayzie804 im in viseu. i would recommend our Lisbon based lawyer. The real estate people did a good job but we got the feeling there was less price negotiating on our behalf than we might have liked. But we didnt know.
@@hemlock40 Thank you! Would you name him/her for us?
@@ayzie804 Carolina sobrinho, easy to find online. Specialist in relocation immigration, residency, real estate
Portuguese here... never get "a" lawyer in Portugal. Get at least one plus another that has knowledge of notary/registry of land, e.g. a "conservador" (keeper of registers). Preferably miles apart and not knowing about each other. Assure you have one of them properly translating all documentation back to you.
I have had great experiences with a Solicitador. They are very effective in all kinds of bureaucratic processes and I got all constructions of the previous owners legalised without a glitch.
than you need same amout of money for lawyer and for house
@@lusofreak excellent advice. Especially about the land registry and notaries. The local junta and planning authorities are excellent people to ask for advice before you buy the land, afterwards is too late, as I'm sure you know but many don't. You can't buy land and do whatever you like on it, without risking everything you spend and more, It's a great pity many people don't understand the mistakes they can make with their life savings. Thanks for offering wise advice.
Its all about building relationships.
Lovely clean/neat workshop/office.
Portuguese who indeed bought some land. My main advise is make 100% sure of what are the real property limits. Both on the ground and on the papers. It's almost useless to say, but back in the day. Long ago. Sometimes land/properties were "adjusted" with some talk between men in the local tavern and sealed with a handshake.
So, walls, fences, etc. are a major help to figure that out. Before you land on your neighbors property by (your) mistake. A nice conversation with your neighbor(s) tend to be a great help. Just to make sure all are on the same page regarding your intended property.
After rejecting some 8 properties I finally ended up with one that had the limits 100% defined. Both on the ground and on the papers. nothing fancy and relatively cheap within my pocket range. But a true piece of mind.
Worth mention that in Portugal house or property are taken extremely serious and are "sacred". To the point one don't enter someone's house/property without permission. Sometimes leading to extreme measures. So be aware.
Jasper excellent job on explaining house hunting and what a win both ways on the concept of trading off. Can certainly be advantageous for someone to help you out and have you help them out with a place to stay, learn, meet new friends and check out Portugal. Wow Jasper you're not just a pretty face.
Thank you so much for all your advises. Take care.
Thanks
Loving the videos just came across this channel today, watching from London uk
Some very sound advice Jasper
Really good information. Excellent mini-course for anyone considering making a move.
I might have anticipated mmost of those, but the partial ownership thing would have completely blindsided me, as would the idea of a house being on some one else's land.
Very genuine video you are fun to watch I can't believe I watched the whole thing! Thank you for your generous advice!
Great advice, Jasper.
Thank you for this video!! It is much needed information we didn't have!
Amazing information you are helping a lot with your experience. Thank you
Thanks for all the info….
I loved Mistake Number 5, simply because we are thinking of buying a property in Portugal and have therefore rented a house for September and October in the Penemacor district. First of all to see if it's something for us to live in the area.
The Ghost Town has already been added to the "to visit" list.
September is one of the best months and on October it will be also fine. But then the rain period will start.
This is why i'm highly weary of lawyers and people working in the realm of law and bureaucracy, you have to tell them to check out this or that, to keep an eye on this or that or else they screw up. It's like they only do their job properly if you show them clearly that you are as well informed or even better informed than them, but then, why the hell do you need them for?
Basically, most of them are a bunch of crooks!
Basically, it's the other way around.
Your interfering is likely to screw things up.
you are quite right about that. btw, the realtor is not a meddler, he works for the seller and gives as few info as possible. and our?? lawyer seems to collaborate with the realtor, which brings us to a second lawyer in a different town to bring a fraud case before a public prosecutor. however, not all is lost, we already occupied the house and did not pay the whole sum yet, because we insist on the promised habitation licence mentioned in the contract. they want our money, so they have to fullfill the contract somehow, although they don t like that.
Good advice
Tx for the warning of the troubles ahead it's crazy how inefficient the system is cheers Buddy
Great video, thanks.
Geweldig Jasper , bedankt voor de info. Ik ben benieuwd hoe jij het doet met de taal . Want dat lijkt me ook een probleem. Respect man. ik benijd je
Great video 🎉 very informative for everyone at the start of their journey!
Nice one mate I might pop in Setembro all the best carry on with the good work, good weekend and good new week.
Thank you for very informative and positive video- You get me interested in your Ghost Town!👍
Very informative, awesome 👏 Thank you 😊
Very informative video, thanks for sharing Jasper 💯👍
Hey Jasper amazing your still going with the build it should have been finished by now.
What do you mean..? Everything is exactly on my schedule 👻
@@GhostTownVlogs That's for sure your schedule is on Dutch time, still you have progressed very well, and I do enjoy the content, and the right and wrong ways of fixing them, keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing and for the good advice
Great video and thanks for looking into it as after my last comment about people buying their property and it turned out not to be theirs, well all i got was you need a Lawler. That's not the point estate agent's and lawyers should know what they are doing. Iv put this because it's the same in Greece so i now need to spend time and money to find out what's belongs to me.
Thanks.. good luck.. I will look much further south.. 😊😊
It sounds like is a mine field the PT property market ,it feels like this sector needs a lot of improvements, having said that the people are fantastic as long as you do not enter any big financial transaction with them, very informative video thanks.
Its not more difficult than in any other country. You just need to know the national laws. And I really believe that its easier and clearer than in most other EU countries. You should nowhere buy property without legal advice.
I'm looking to purchase a small house in central region, only because it is affordable there, but I'd rather be closer to the ocean because as you said, it's cooler. Thanx for all the info.
Hello. Thank you for the great video.
How can i contact you about volenteering?
I tried to find access to the map database for checking properties you showed, but i feel im just led in circles in the gov sites. Can you tell me how to get to these maps you showed?
Jasper je legt het weer heerlijk eerlijk uit.
Ik volg je vanaf het begin.
Dat je nog eens een uitzending deed samen met Melanie.
Bied me nog een keer aan als vrijwilliger.
Als het hier thuis wat minder hectisch is
Groet Marco
For these kind of mistakes, all real state agents and agencies have an insurance that serves to indemnify the clients.
But, BEFORE you buy ask for the topographic plan.
Brilliant... thank you
Thankyou for a very informative video. Great insights from experience❤❤❤❤
Thankyou for sharing this Jasper.
Very inspiring vlog Jasper.
Very helpful. Good advice!
Hi - thanks for a great video, very elumenating! On the Cadastral section search, on the building registary map I see some letters (presumably corosponding to the designation of the land) would you know where I can find the meaning for these? one is PN and the other is CA. Thanks.
when there is no many pics...and only one angle.... Prices are super inflated as well...
prices are a joke.
Thank you. especially no 5.
Everyone says you need to walk the land to see if there's any drainage problem. The kind of trees that grow there may also tell you something....
Thank you Ghost , very useful information😮😊
IMPORTANT INFORMATION 💯 Ty
Je hebt groot gelijk, alhoewel onderhandelen mij nog niet mee is gevallen.
Uiteindelijk hadden we een deal, Koch lt de buurman het voor die lage prijs!
Thanks for the great advice
Thankyou for this Jasper 👍🏻
Thanks for the information, I'm planning to come in April to look for land. I'd be happy if you could recommend a good lawyer who can inspect the land and the property.
Thank you .Very informative. I wish you much success .
Goeie tips! Wij gaan eerst een jaar huren en dan rustig kijken wat er mogelijk is en te koop is.
Hier kan ik zeker wat mee!
🙏🏻👍🏻
Wow good job sir
Good honest informative video. Much appreciated
Thank you for the info
Great job, man. Big Up. Groeten.
Dankjewel voor deze video🙏wij zijn in het proces van ons huis verkopen in NL en dan met de camper naar Portugal te vertrekken...meerdere bergenaren zijn ons al voorgegaan😅Wij zijn al jaren aant wikken en wegen,maar nu de knoop doorgehakt!Hopelijk vinden we een mooi plekje in portugal en met deze tips komt het vast goed😅 ❤
great vid jasper,you still make me laugh
You know, I was wondering if you had thought to put the word out for some volunteer helpers with all the work you have under way ... and here you are doing exactly that :D An excellent idea.
In large part, you are doing in Portugal what I wanted to do here in England - find a long abandoned rural village and bring it back to life. But regulations and prices are not conducive to such fun dreams here I am sad to say.
Hi Jasper
Very good info i'm in the process of buying a property in portugal central area .. out of the 5 you list i have done 1 and that one is got a lawyer so 1 out of 5 is not bad what could possibly go wrong lol,,
Excellent video with sound advice. Love your clean and well organized workshop. Tell us did you get the parts of your home that weren't registered, registered? Is your gardener/cook one of the volunteers? I see people come and go but never know who they are.
Five good advices!
Great info, thanks a lot! You mentioned auction sites. Do you have links to them?
And we also love haggling, but this is because we have our methods to avoid big gov control. We call it Ayni in Quechua. This goes way beyond the idea of "exchange": it is really becoming part of the highest or greatest flow of energy within the organic weave and not resisting it as gringos programmed in matrix do. It is generative, circular and syntropic.
yes, that is why this gringa/latina wants so desperately to get out of the country....ASAP....This country is going to the toilet...justice is blind, people are getting crazier, law is for the poor and minorities but never applied for the top tier of people with money...and the list goes on and on...
Glad you said about the temperature because I think people think because it’s further south the Algarve is hotter certainly not the case 🌞
You are correct for the summer. But in the winter its quite a bit colder here than in the Algarve. I even had a few snowflakes this year near to Leiria🤪 Most important is that you have reliable heating.
you are right and i am portuguese i live in UK. Best regards Nuno Portugal & Geraldine Horner
Great video, very useful info, thanks! I'm planing to buy land on the north. Could you please recommend there I can find info(perhaps in some of your videos) regarding the renovating the house: what parts(roof, floor, etc) of the house I can repair by my self(I have some construction experience) and for what I will have to(according to law) delegate to licensed professionals?
Well done for knowing that renovation of old buildings needs professional imput. To become a legal dwelling and sold as such I believe becomes a " project" therefore requires and architect and a structural engineer. I believe in some buildings it's possible to live and be classed as a barn but cannot be sold as a house later. The local council or "camera" will give you helpful advice and refer you to the local building regulation authority. Good luck, you need specialist advice from a qualified legal professional not really opinions like mine from strangers. My experience is from supporting a friend buy an old quinta, he's a very happy man, because he had the benefit of honest professionals, with a good local reputation. Several friends were conned by dishonest estate agents. Good luck
If you haver water in abundance for agriculture in the properties, you made a great deal!
One very important point is that all the owners of neighbouring plots have declined in writing the opportunity to buy the property you wish to buy at the price you are paying. If this has not happened a neighbour has the legal right to buy the property you own even years later at the price you paid. The warning not to buy more land than you can maintain is a very important tip, it's not a common problem in Northern Europe that land can become a burden, so bigger isn't always better in Portugal.
Don't assume you can sell at the price you pay if things don't work out, you may not be able to sell at all.
Dirt roads are difficult to maintain when rain washes them away and can become to rutted to use ordinary cars.
Renovation of old buildings into legal dwellings is expensive, they become a "project" and must have an architect and structural engineer approval. Not all land can be lived on without the appropriate authority, so know what you are buying. Check with the local " Camera" the council officials are very helpful, they will tell the truth, your estate agent just wants to sell and may just say what you want to hear.
Meet the locals, your neighbours, will they welcome you? Information and advice from local area is so helpful, they live there, their knowledge is priceless.
Good luck it's a fantastic country.
Where is this written ?
@@evelynalexanderpentner9988 Hi, the reason I made those comments is that I was with a friend who bought a small Quinta. His estate agent was a wonderful lady, well respected by many Northern European expats and locals alike. I don't want to identify her by giving too many details which is a pity because I can't recommend her highly enough or I would gladly let others know how helpful she was. The most important reason for my trust is that she prevented my friend for buying a piece of land with terrible legal issues, it didn't even belong to the person trying to sell it. The lady spoke English and Portuguese and worked as a translator, she knew the law and explained every detail. Living in the area now my friend has learnt how many other people have been ripped off and had terrible experiences that cost tens of thousands of pounds. The lady helped with many other issues like insurance tax, residency etc. She is a good person which was lucky as there are many pit fall in buying from large estate agents especially, she was with a small local independent agency. The bits about planning and the local Junta have been learnt from friends dealing with building issues and listening to the lady who dealt with many professional builders architects and legal experts. Don't trust most estate agents, it's very rare to get one that is both honest and knowledgeable, go to the offices who make the rules, most speak English, go by what they say you will also build goodwill that way. Northern Europeans flashing the cash locally but ignoring the rules upset people who can be of great assistance when treated with respect. You can go to find out about who owns land etc by the land registry online and also speak to notaries who do the land transfers. My friend was helped throughout by the locals because he asks nicely for help and lives modestly.
Good luck I hope what I say is useful and answers your question to some extent. If you need better information I will try to answer but my knowledge is obviously not as deep as the locals and based only on general knowledge of people I know.
@lynne2774 : Thank you for to write so much infos, we are long time here we saw even so much. The thing is when you come fresh here, all is nice, you see diverent thinks ans so on, the brain is out, settle down, come down , get enough information, and be carefully with the money. Thank you , we move now from the Algarve to Pedrogão Grande, Greatings Evelyn & Alexander
Can you post a link to the land registry please👍👍
To make sure the land or ruin was built before 1951 its better to contact the "financas" with eportal and ask them, OR get a lawer to do it for you it costs around 200 euros.. a lot of land ruins and old houses were registered mid 1970s but in fact they were built before 1951 and thats what you want, the "financas" have those registers.. or you can ask the army for a satelite picture of the land pre 1951 and you can present that as proof too.
Great advice!!
António Silva
Comprar através da Agência,sim mas tambem entrar em contacto com o dono casa e ir ás finanças saber se a casa está legalizada.
Hazel ☘️
Great information ….
A good lawyer is worth their weight in gold … but remember they too have to wait on documents going back and forward from government offices , so it’s easy to say “great lawyer, but they are terribly slow”
My “4 week “turnover from agreement to finalisation is still ongoing 9 months later ! … but that’s coz my lawyer is efficient and discovered missing land even the previous owner was not aware of … and didn’t know he owned … so waiting is a pain , but can be to your advantage …
Love to you Renato and the girlies …
I’m still on tenterhooks to know for sure if Akira is pregnant ?..
(Or have I somehow missed the update. .? )
🙏☘️😘
No babies yet .. small incapable portuguese 👻
Of course! All these “mistakes” is not just in Portugal, but anywhere!
Of course you want to see the property, best initial investment you can make.
A lot of parts of Portugal ownership has been transferred word of mouth for generations, nothing written/registered, hard to know what the actual property is.
Very interesting.. Cheers🐨
Good advices…
Buying in land property in Portugal can be very intricated since general information is scatered all over the place: by not knowing the laws your best source of information should be a notary that normaly inland make 90% of the buying and selling properties. 1 - see the adverts that you like on-line and select at least 6 properties. 2 - come to see what you choose in person by contacting the n. on the advert . 3 -Ask for papers from the properties. 4 - Go to a notary in this region so that he/she can tell you: if it is owned by the seller, if it has any debts, if it´s legal, what kind of license it have, if there is any preference of family members on buying, etc. 5 - Go yourself to the Urban department of the city hall ask the technician responsable for that region what you can and cannot do with that property. 6 - if there is no more doubts, then it´s ready for you to buy it through it´s legal act that is called Escritura. - 7 - Go to the same notary and set the date.
As with everything in life, if you don't understand anything about a subject, it's better to pay and consult experts, this is the first step and this applies to Portugal or another country.
In the case of purchasing property there are things that the interested buyer can do, go to the location and check the property limits and of course negotiate at the end, in between there are details that only have access if consult experts, lawyers are not exactly the most suitable or even the real estate agents.
The only experts in the field capable of providing the best information are technicians who work in the design or evaluation area, architects or engineers and on behalf of them request preliminary documents for analysis and go to the site to check and analyze the condition of the building.
It's a bit like when I go to buy a second-hand car, if I take a mechanic with me to analyze the condition of the car I can negotiate better or even not make a deal at all. To do a good deal, the number one rule is to have knowledge of the area where you are negotiating and if you don't, you must hire experts to help you.
No I don’t agree with the first sentence already.. I think it is better to learn anything yourself 😊 except for lawyers or Docters.. although sometimes your even better off not listen to them also
@@GhostTownVlogs of course but in the first time better hire someone adviser specialist.
Do you know how much is rent on tiny home ? Also where are they located ?
Remenber that the value o IMI is not the value o the property at the market. Its a evaluation that the Tax Office made back then to calculate the tax that you pay each year. Normally if its an old property or house its not updated and its lower tax.
New houses pay a lot of IMI, and remenber dont mess with Tax Office, if you dont oay the tax of IMi its a big problem and at the end you could lose the properties cars etc etc
Most of old houses prices on the book are way off a lot more than 10 years, theres land and ruins worth hundreds of thousands and still showing 4k-6k value with yearly tax of 50 euros lol
"We were very good negotiators somewhere in history.."
Back then your ways of negotiating were quite different, ask the Dutch East India Company about that.😂
Agree with us....or else .. Well, it did work for a while.
I bought mine during covid when I could not visit. I also paid te asking price as it came with an other purchasing deal. Water and electricity are only 6 feet away. I don't care because I am staying off grid. The lack of facilities can be a bonus if you want to be offgrid. Now I just need to fix it up. I am not sure about the boundaries but I see I can now look it up. My lawyer just cleared of before completing the job. My new solicitor is pure gold. The location is perfect it's just home. By the way learn Portuguese or you will have a very limited group of friends. I have loads of friends.
Can you provide the link to the land register?
Yes, Jan Van Riebeeck negotiated his way into South Africa, and we are still here after almost 400 years, and up until 120 years ago we still spoke dutch, and even 80 years ago our Bibles were also Dutch, my Grandfather who died 50 years ago spoke Dutch, now we speak Afrikaans.
I just hope the Portugeuse know that you are going to turn their country into little Holland and start your own version of Dutch, LOL! If you can do that ,I am sure many Afrikaners will go and live in your Little Holland. LOL!
What are the reasonable lawyer fee rates? Hourly and as % of the property?
Can you get rid of the old house on the property you bought and replace it with a tiny house? Or do you need to buy empty land to have one? What are the chances of landing a tiny house on a Plot in Portugal? The houses in the villages look very old, I need to build my house in a rural area away from the old villages..
Rural lands that do not have a house built cannot be built. Rural lands are only for rural activity purposes, so it is necessary to know where rural and urban lands begin and end in order to have confirmation. And there is a difference, sometimes just a few meters separate what is rural from what is considered urban. Each parish has its own rules, including regarding modifications to facades. Practically few allow this possibility. In some, even the color of the roof is standardized. Any modification requires authorization and permission from the local council. The interior of the houses can be modified, but the exterior, such as facades, windows, and doors, must be modified with authorization. I don't know if this is true, but in some villages the council offers a subsidy of the cost of the material to be used on the facades, but only for painting. Another detail is that not all heirs are in Europe. Some are in Brazil, which is too far away and too expensive to travel to sign papers, and some are also old. These are all important issues to check.
👌👌👌 obrigado 🇵🇹 🇧🇪
Rules, regulations, high prices, limitations, muggled neighbors, shedding......... why do you think I am in Peru!🙂🙃🙂🥰
YES!!!!!! and do not forget taxes highhhhh taxes....
@@lolitabonita08 I never paid any even when living in Europe or Canada. It was easy as a classical free lance musician. I did file though, just my costs were very high: piano, viola, violin, clothes, contact lenses, car, gas, master classes, it's surprising how I even ate food!!
when they admit that the little house is yours I will give you much less than their asking price for it😁🤣
Do you pay taxes one time only when you buy the property ? Or is it every year and what is the tax based on . Is it a % of what you paid or do the say yeah we’re going to charge what we think the property is worth? Tak.
The "valor patrimonial" from the tax office is not related to the commercial price. The market is more volatile and subjective. The "valor patrimonial" is used to determine the tax you have to pay.
I believe that what is essential is to hire a reliable and good real estate agent, because lawyers are not experts on real estate. As far as negotiation, it really depends a lot. A good professional that knows the market will help with the fair price.
For sure, the best advice is getting to know where you want to go :) It does rain! Portugal is not a tropical country, and we do have a winter.
Just like I said basically. It is the valued price by government and but not commercial price 👻
tnx
Do you also have the 1e apartment opportunities?
by negotiate he means haggle, they love that, as one I can say, Portuguese are tight.
Jasper , wat weet je van het kopen van huizen op Madeira eiland ?Behalve dat het heel duur is ?
Geen ervaring mee.. het is een aparte regio met wss eigen regels 👻
@@GhostTownVlogs toch bedankt , ga zo door , goed geinformeerd de rest van de verbouwing .
@@rikmarx107 Do you like a link in German with translation? The tax system in Madeira is still attractive.
Immo Incubator
What is the best site to find houses?😊
Look at my property search video!
Yeah... recently they sell you a rotten barn as a nice house in Portugal. It's all about making money and they are not scared to lie to you. Noticed a lot of video's about those sellers, and if 75% of the video is filled with nice olive trees and other greenery, instead of the building you now you are scammed.
Is there any house left for sale in the ghost town? 😅
That's very nice of you