Glover : "I'm sorry" Lionheart while getting his teeth knocked out : "yeah, it is what it is buddy"... 🤣😅 damn bro thats 1 of the most savage shit I've heard
@@drunkenmmamaster419 he said that, but I dont believe him, cos when he told them his teeth were falling out, he was clearly telling them to stop the fight...
It's almost a unique circumstance, I don't think anyone can conclusively say whether Herb did the right thing or not. To those that say Herb should have waited a bit longer, if he was unconscious then the damage that could have been done to Lawler's throat and neck could have been severe
Didint lawler immediately get up and protest the stoppage tho? I personally think it was a good stoppage even if “incorrect” but I’m confused by this comment
@@benjamim8046 that’s pretty common for someone who was barely unconscious. It’s like falling asleep. Do you remember the exact moment you fall asleep? Of course not. It’s very common to not remember after being unconscious, and if you were only barely unconscious, you will “come back” almost instantly. That’s why Chiesa, Lawler, and Sonnen all protested the stoppages. They were only barely out, so they didn’t remember it and thought it was bad.
The Lawler fight is one I never understood why people protested. His arm fell completely limp and his face was blocked. Herb Dean and no ref would have any choice but to stop that
Never knew about Kennedys finger inside Yoels glove .. To me that justifies the gamesmanship put on by Yoels team to give him extra recovery time between rounds.
I agree that 2 wrongs don’t make a right but after taking advantage of glove grab like that I think Yoel take a bit longer to get up was fine lol, it’s not like Kennedy didn’t get the same rest time as Yoel.
Doesn't matter the rules clearly state, if a fighter taps the ref stops the fight, if the fighter goes unconcious the ref stops the fight. He technically did neither of them, there's always a "What if". like could you imagine they stopped the volk vs ortega fight when ortega got that choke in? No one expected him to just get out of it, but he did. So there's always a chance they can escape a submission. Bad stoppage either way.
In the Yan V Sterling fight, you can’t do a no contest. Issue if that if situations like that ended with an NC it would incentivize champs to do things illegally to retain titles. “Oh, my opponent won the first 4 rounds? *Knee to the head* Yay, I don’t lose my belt!”
The only thing is it also incentivizes fighters to bait the illegal blow. In the Yan Sterling fight you can see Aljo going for the kneeling position twice before Yan finally bites. Idk, both are shitty
So all they have to do is vacant the belt Not sure why this isn't more common sense Sterling didn't deserve to win the belt Yan doesn't deserve to keep it Strip the belt and just have the rematch for the vacant belt
Honestly it looked like Robbie's arm went limp and I believe he was literally right at the cusp of going out but Herb Dean stopped it at just the right time and once the choke was released Robbie quickly came back and was able to protest the stoppage claiming he was never out. But in that situation, you shouldn't let your arm fall and just dangle like that if you truly are aware of what's going on because then it just looks like you're out to everyone
Exactly. People saying Aljo should get an Oscar for his "acting" performance. Dude just got railed in the head with a knee from a highly trained fighter. I think that would hurt a little.
Because there are no unified rules and every state/commision has different set of rules. Also knowing the rules doesn't suddenly make you a super-obedient machine that can process every thing in a split of a second. People pretending like Yan did that on purpose, like "hey I am winning a fight, let's do something illegal intentionally so I can lose it". Yeah, he threw a knee with n intention of throwing a knee, but his thought process wasn''t like "this is illegal, let's do it", there is a huge difference. He reacted instinctively. Also that Diego situation, he lost me as a fan right there, from a warrior everyone respected to a coward without a moral code. If you can't continue then you can't continue. We've seen so many fights stopped because of low blows, eye-pokes, etc. But faking it, pretending like you can't continue, taking the easy way out, no honor in that. And then they will upload a video and say they are warriors who go with a shield or on it. It's so obvious when they are faking it, be it Sterling, Diego, Weidman, etc. the same way it's obvious when they are not faking it (Belal, Kharitonov, to name a few). Why did Yan lose a fight because he threw an illegal knee, but Kharitonov did not win a fight when Mitrione kicked him in the balls? Until we have unified rules that will apply in all of MMA, every promotion and every state, fighters will fake it and people will call them on it.
If I've said it once I've said it a million times, askren/lawler stoppage was good. Robbie shouldn't have flopped his arm like that, he was basically asking for it to get stopped
I've got a surprisingly hot take on the Aljo-Yan take according to twitter, but I think Aljo was not faking his response to the knee. One of the first things you are taught in medical psychology is to notice signs of concussion, and Aljo's eyes definitely looked extremely dazed. He did seem to be genuinely confused as well and I agree with the stoppage. My problem with the fight is that I don't think championships should be gained via disqualification. I think Yan should have been stripped without giving the title to Aljo. I find it different than Jones vs Cormier 2, because DC was defending his title before Jones regained it and was stripped due to his failed drug test.
I’m no medical physiologist but I don’t think it would be too hard to “act concussed” when your job involves getting punched in the face constantly. Just feel what you’re feeling and act like it’s 100x worse than what it is
Nah man, I agree that Yan should have been DQ'd, he threw an illegal blow, blatantly. There's no denying that. That really happened, and there's no excusing it. But Aljo definitely played it up and jumped on an opportunity to get an asterisk win in a fight he was getting embarrassingly obliterated in, I mean that was one of the least competitive title fights in recent history. Yan was flinging him around like a stuffed animal, landing nearly everything he threw, and defending absolutely everything Aljo was throwing with ease, Aljo was over his head and trying desperately to not engage, and Yan got frustrated and lost his cool. I can completely understand why Yan was frustrated, but he's supposed to be a professional, he should have shown more restraint.
@@markzuckergecko621 this is absolutely accurate! And also as a defense to Aljo (though I don't want to admit it), it was by far the best professional choice to make. That's an extra few hundred Gs he would make by pulling off that fake. Just hate how he said he was ashamed and wouldn't parade the belt around as though he deserved it in the post-fight conference, then does it the moment he gets out of the locker room
Please stop it with the "latter rounds Diaz", Nate went past the third only 3 times in his career and lost all of those fights. One against Benson Henderson (50-43 and 50-45 x2), one versus Conor where he dropped a majority decision (he didn't do much in the forth and fifth in terms of inflicted damage) and one against Leon when he caught him in the last minute after getting dominated for the whole contest, that straight landed perfectly but it wasn't the result of suffocating cardio pressure, it has more to do with being "a good strike". Nate's durable as hell and has good cardio, but his pace isn't intense (by intense I mean guys like Colby or Volkanovski), the last time he dominated with his cardio was against Pettis 3 years ago (who's not known for his endurance during this past-his-prime part of his career).
And that's going on the assumption that the cut doesn't get significantly worse if the fight continues. The doctor was considering the risk of damage to the facial nerves (temporal, supraorbital) and how it looks on him to potentially have a fighter in there with half his face hanging off, hence the responsible decision was made.
Have it as DQ loss so a fighters record reflects what occured. If a sitting champ commits the foul they are stripped of the belt but it is not awarded to the challenger. The title is declared vacant & a mandatory rematch held within 9 months to fight for the vacant title. If either fighter cannot fight within the 9 month window they forfiet thier automatic shot at the belt & the next contender gets thier turn. Keep the division moving.
@@Darkdirewulf But are completely fine when someone goes stiff after a headkick and a dessert of CTE... This sport and it's fans are crazy, but I love it.
@@isaiahvilla6908 Hurt guys lose the fight but can fight again in a few months. Injured guys go broke when they can't fight for a year because they had to get their knee reconstructed.
Jorge was beating the living shit out of Nate, the ref/doctor made the best decision with the stoppage. nate wasn't going to get going after getting beat that bad in the 4th
@@Don-bw1eu Yeah well if he didn't let Jorge use him as a heavy bag for fifteen mins he might have been able to show something late, that's assuming Jorge didn't punch the rest of his eyebrow off his face before he got the chance. It's such a massive reach to assume Nate would have done anything other than continue to get smashed in the last two rounds.
2:00 oi Bayliun that comment about most of the fans don't have to care, bang out of order. I consider that editorial and unfounded. I haven't seen any fans who weren't horrified by Baukauskus's injury regardless of their stance on those kicks being legal or illegal
Diaz and Masvidal were veterans with decades of experience and they knew that they were fighting to be the BMF alive that night and should've been allowed to fight until the final bell or one of them stopped moving!
Seth Petruzelli should be extremely grateful he was chosen to fight Kimbo. If it weren't for that fight, nobody would ever know Petruzelli even existed. Nobody knew who he was. Seth Petruzelli didn't even know Seth Petruzelli existed until that fight. He handled his business and now millions of people know who he is.
Herb explained the Askren Lawler finish on Rogans podcast, and he lays out his perspective really well. whether you wanna take his pov or not it's still and interesting listen in general. I'm pretty sure the clips uploaded
I think Ken vs Tito 2 should be on here. I was HEATED at how fast that fight was stopped. Fight 3 proved nothing different would have happened, but in the moment, let the man fight!
That's debatable and impossible to confirm completely but what we can say with certainty is that carlos illegally held onto the cage to prevent being slammed.
@@mlwarrior that's not debatable. Carlos said he felt Matt go out. And it's obvious from the way their bodies crumble down to the mat that, it was not a controlled slam. It was Hughes going unconscious and falling. And Matt even said out of his mouth "I was out! I was out!" And Matt wasn't trying to slam him he walk them over to the cage and held them there, Carlos held onto the cage for about a second and a half before the ref said "you can't hold the cage." I don't understand why you're trying to debate stuff that's not even Up For Debate 🤷🏾♂️
@@struggle-dad6715 I'm not saying you're wrong about if he was likely out or not, but it absolutely is debatable. There is no ironclad proof. Again, my point is simply that the cage holding adds to the consideration of who won that fight.
@@tatooine_dream Yes. If he said he passed out, that means Newton wins via submission. This is a guy who bragged about sleeping with underage girls and beating the shit out of his dad with his brother. Why wouldn't he say that he slammed Carlos? lol
I actually want Sterling to win the rematch because I know that would literally cause riot afterwards and probably 99% of people would lose their money. But obviously it's gonna be no different than the 1st fight. Yan is gonna dominate and he's getting the belt back.
The reason Illegal strike even if "accidental" result in a loss and a DQ and not a NC is because fighters who are obviously losing or champions losing would just throw an Illegal strike to avoid a Loss. its cowardly but when you're desperate literally fighting for your life and career. a cheap easy exit is too tempting
That is not a good point. I don't know why these morons are gassing you up. Could you actually imagine a fighter actively losing a bout and being able to cause that situation to happen? It almost sounds impossible. If you're getting your ass kicked you're not exactly in the frame of mind to contort that situation in your favour.
@@carphucker2973 you don’t need to get your ass kicked to lose a fight. Think about those boring ass fights that go the distance without any action, all a fighter would need to hear form his corner is “you’re losing on the scorecards” and he could throw an illegal strike on purpose.
it wasn't just fans who where OK with the kick many fighters and former fighters where fine with it as well. Also the kick can be defended as shown by a number of fighters including Izzy who ether deflect it or avoid it. It is really dangerous to those who fight in a boxing stance (when they turn their legs as a they throw certain punches) and karat/TKD style fighters who stand side ways. Personally i dont care much whether its ban or not, but there are many other moves that cause injures, some more severe than the oblique kick, more frequently at a higher rate and if we start banning moves that cause injures then we will have to band every move because all of them do that ( all can cause sever injure) Never forget Micheal's eye was due to a head kick should we ban head kicks ... they can cause brain damage too.
It think the main reason people are mad is that you can stop cranking or tap out of a leg lock or armbar, but you can't pull back from blasting a mofos knee into a cracklings. Still, I personally don't care whether it's legal or not.
If someone hits me with an illegal strike with the belt on the line, you better fucking believe I'm taking the W. I don't care what people say. PPV points in the next fight is a huge deal financially. Now, you wouldn't see me parading that belt around or talking shit like what Aljo has been doing. You'd never see me with a belt again until I win legitimately.
I think Diaz proved that the Jorge fight wasn’t over till it was over with the Leon Edwards fight. Who knows what the last 2 rounds would’ve looked like if Jorge was really slowing down
@@aaronaustin9814 first off it 49-46 on all scorecards since you want to repeat 50-45 so much. Secondly, yeah he's not the best fighter. I said you can never count him out, and he had his best moment at the end of the fight.
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Glover : "I'm sorry"
Lionheart while getting his teeth knocked out : "yeah, it is what it is buddy"... 🤣😅 damn bro thats 1 of the most savage shit I've heard
that was really hard to watch
Ya that one was tough
Smith is one tough dude man , saying he would've fired his corner if they threw in the towel for him , honestly they probably should've
I felt terrible for the dude...
Anthony: "My teeth are falling out.."
Corner man: "....Alright, we got 2 rounds left, we need you turn up the pace..."
@@drunkenmmamaster419 he said that, but I dont believe him, cos when he told them his teeth were falling out, he was clearly telling them to stop the fight...
if you go limp when you're getting choked out, then you should not argue with the stoppage. Not quite sure what else you would expect the ref to do.
It's almost a unique circumstance, I don't think anyone can conclusively say whether Herb did the right thing or not. To those that say Herb should have waited a bit longer, if he was unconscious then the damage that could have been done to Lawler's throat and neck could have been severe
Didint lawler immediately get up and protest the stoppage tho? I personally think it was a good stoppage even if “incorrect” but I’m confused by this comment
@@benjamim8046 that’s pretty common for someone who was barely unconscious. It’s like falling asleep. Do you remember the exact moment you fall asleep? Of course not. It’s very common to not remember after being unconscious, and if you were only barely unconscious, you will “come back” almost instantly. That’s why Chiesa, Lawler, and Sonnen all protested the stoppages. They were only barely out, so they didn’t remember it and thought it was bad.
The Lawler fight is one I never understood why people protested. His arm fell completely limp and his face was blocked. Herb Dean and no ref would have any choice but to stop that
@@shrimp19921 or Kevin Lee against Oliviera. Lee woke up and literally thought he was still fighting Charles lol
Never knew about Kennedys finger inside Yoels glove .. To me that justifies the gamesmanship put on by Yoels team to give him extra recovery time between rounds.
Yeah doesn’t change the fact that Yoel is a dirty fighter tho
They made a pretty big deal about it after the replay.
I agree that 2 wrongs don’t make a right but after taking advantage of glove grab like that I think Yoel take a bit longer to get up was fine lol, it’s not like Kennedy didn’t get the same rest time as Yoel.
All is fair in love & war 🤪
Both cheaters, who cares?
If Robbie gets that win with the slam like it was almost called we’re sent to a whole new time line.
10:39 idk why but that always gaves me chills
chiesa protests every stoppage and there was no way he was getting out of it
Tap nap or snap
there were 30 seconds left in the round right?
@@the_unicorn_mma 30 seconds to get choked out in it was completely locked in
@@gh0rochi363 Snap, Nap, or Tap
Doesn't matter the rules clearly state, if a fighter taps the ref stops the fight, if the fighter goes unconcious the ref stops the fight. He technically did neither of them, there's always a "What if". like could you imagine they stopped the volk vs ortega fight when ortega got that choke in? No one expected him to just get out of it, but he did. So there's always a chance they can escape a submission. Bad stoppage either way.
The fact that Matt Hughes could pick Carlos up in that position shows how strong he was
Glover apologizing is bone curdling. Like he's a killing machine but even he knows this is too much
Still waiting on that Top 10 houses sold by Al vid 😅
In the Yan V Sterling fight, you can’t do a no contest. Issue if that if situations like that ended with an NC it would incentivize champs to do things illegally to retain titles. “Oh, my opponent won the first 4 rounds? *Knee to the head* Yay, I don’t lose my belt!”
Never thought of this, but what an insightful take
The only thing is it also incentivizes fighters to bait the illegal blow. In the Yan Sterling fight you can see Aljo going for the kneeling position twice before Yan finally bites. Idk, both are shitty
@@antuanperez426 you wot m8
@@KeefeL Aljo was baiting (he's a master at it) the knee to get a dq.
So all they have to do is vacant the belt
Not sure why this isn't more common sense
Sterling didn't deserve to win the belt
Yan doesn't deserve to keep it
Strip the belt and just have the rematch for the vacant belt
Kevin Lee had that choke fully sunk in.
It’s a choke. He didn’t tap nor pass out nor was he close to either.
@@gh0rochi363 🧢
@@gh0rochi363 he absolutely was close. Chiesa was purple ffs it was an inevitability he was going out.
@@carphucker2973 then let him go out. Tap nap or snap. Bjj day one.
@@carphucker2973 cool that you can’t see color bro
Following this chanel since 2018, Bayliun was a great adittion.
Thanks for this. So sick of all the snarky comments only praising TTH...
None of their hosts are "bad" by any means. In fact if anything I'd love to see Lawton do a top ten.
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I was confused for a minute, saw Aljo on the thumbnail and read "Most Decisive MMA Finishes Ever"
lol... the Rear Naked Choke is one of the most dangerous submissions.
Honestly it looked like Robbie's arm went limp and I believe he was literally right at the cusp of going out but Herb Dean stopped it at just the right time and once the choke was released Robbie quickly came back and was able to protest the stoppage claiming he was never out. But in that situation, you shouldn't let your arm fall and just dangle like that if you truly are aware of what's going on because then it just looks like you're out to everyone
I don’t know why is so hard to know and respect the rules. I’m not an Aljo fan but the only one to blame in that fight is Yan
Its just another knee in an mma fight. Where the guys legs are shouldnt have anything to do with it. Stupid rule that only exists because of politics.
Exactly. People saying Aljo should get an Oscar for his "acting" performance. Dude just got railed in the head with a knee from a highly trained fighter. I think that would hurt a little.
I’ve seen people get worse and continue, he literally milked the fuck out of the rules so he could win a title
Because there are no unified rules and every state/commision has different set of rules. Also knowing the rules doesn't suddenly make you a super-obedient machine that can process every thing in a split of a second. People pretending like Yan did that on purpose, like "hey I am winning a fight, let's do something illegal intentionally so I can lose it". Yeah, he threw a knee with n intention of throwing a knee, but his thought process wasn''t like "this is illegal, let's do it", there is a huge difference. He reacted instinctively. Also that Diego situation, he lost me as a fan right there, from a warrior everyone respected to a coward without a moral code. If you can't continue then you can't continue. We've seen so many fights stopped because of low blows, eye-pokes, etc. But faking it, pretending like you can't continue, taking the easy way out, no honor in that. And then they will upload a video and say they are warriors who go with a shield or on it. It's so obvious when they are faking it, be it Sterling, Diego, Weidman, etc. the same way it's obvious when they are not faking it (Belal, Kharitonov, to name a few). Why did Yan lose a fight because he threw an illegal knee, but Kharitonov did not win a fight when Mitrione kicked him in the balls? Until we have unified rules that will apply in all of MMA, every promotion and every state, fighters will fake it and people will call them on it.
@@alfresh707 Facts, it's legal in ONE why is it illegal in the US?
Worth noting that Newton grabbed the fence to stop Hughes from slamming him originally.
I love how different these lists are!
If I've said it once I've said it a million times, askren/lawler stoppage was good. Robbie shouldn't have flopped his arm like that, he was basically asking for it to get stopped
I've got a surprisingly hot take on the Aljo-Yan take according to twitter, but I think Aljo was not faking his response to the knee. One of the first things you are taught in medical psychology is to notice signs of concussion, and Aljo's eyes definitely looked extremely dazed. He did seem to be genuinely confused as well and I agree with the stoppage. My problem with the fight is that I don't think championships should be gained via disqualification. I think Yan should have been stripped without giving the title to Aljo. I find it different than Jones vs Cormier 2, because DC was defending his title before Jones regained it and was stripped due to his failed drug test.
I’m no medical physiologist but I don’t think it would be too hard to “act concussed” when your job involves getting punched in the face constantly. Just feel what you’re feeling and act like it’s 100x worse than what it is
He went to the hospital, and it was reported he wasn't concussed, also remember the entire interview he gave? 🤣
Nah man, I agree that Yan should have been DQ'd, he threw an illegal blow, blatantly. There's no denying that. That really happened, and there's no excusing it. But Aljo definitely played it up and jumped on an opportunity to get an asterisk win in a fight he was getting embarrassingly obliterated in, I mean that was one of the least competitive title fights in recent history. Yan was flinging him around like a stuffed animal, landing nearly everything he threw, and defending absolutely everything Aljo was throwing with ease, Aljo was over his head and trying desperately to not engage, and Yan got frustrated and lost his cool. I can completely understand why Yan was frustrated, but he's supposed to be a professional, he should have shown more restraint.
@@janibekfuturetop5p4p6 especially saying he won't be parading around with the best, then does it hours later? Shameless!
@@markzuckergecko621 this is absolutely accurate! And also as a defense to Aljo (though I don't want to admit it), it was by far the best professional choice to make. That's an extra few hundred Gs he would make by pulling off that fake. Just hate how he said he was ashamed and wouldn't parade the belt around as though he deserved it in the post-fight conference, then does it the moment he gets out of the locker room
Thats crazy, seeing my neighborhood in an MMA on point video haha @ 9:20
I just fucking love this channel
This channel is definitely at least partially the reason why mma has blown up the way it has
Lol
Doubtful
@@carphucker2973 thanks Car Phucker
Matt Hammil & Jon Jones should be on this list. (The 12-6 elbow stoppage)
That's a stoppage (DQ) not a finish. CASUAL ALERT
@@jasonfrancis3264 actually counted as a win for Matt hamil....
Im guessing rn that Overeem vs Rozenstruik maybe on this list :0
I'm kinda surprised it wasn't, that was sure weird as hell.
Don’t know if anyone else was the same way but I zoned out so hard during that intro.. like didn’t a single word of it😂😂
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I do feel like the Anthony Smith/Glover Texeira fight should have been called. That was actually hard to watch.
Please stop it with the "latter rounds Diaz", Nate went past the third only 3 times in his career and lost all of those fights. One against Benson Henderson (50-43 and 50-45 x2), one versus Conor where he dropped a majority decision (he didn't do much in the forth and fifth in terms of inflicted damage) and one against Leon when he caught him in the last minute after getting dominated for the whole contest, that straight landed perfectly but it wasn't the result of suffocating cardio pressure, it has more to do with being "a good strike".
Nate's durable as hell and has good cardio, but his pace isn't intense (by intense I mean guys like Colby or Volkanovski), the last time he dominated with his cardio was against Pettis 3 years ago (who's not known for his endurance during this past-his-prime part of his career).
Volk is the fucken man
solid analysis in my book. bravo
Finally someone says it lol
And that's going on the assumption that the cut doesn't get significantly worse if the fight continues. The doctor was considering the risk of damage to the facial nerves (temporal, supraorbital) and how it looks on him to potentially have a fighter in there with half his face hanging off, hence the responsible decision was made.
He's just not Good lol
If they changed it to a no contest wouldn’t every champ just throw an illegal blow to keep the belt?
Have it as DQ loss so a fighters record reflects what occured. If a sitting champ commits the foul they are stripped of the belt but it is not awarded to the challenger. The title is declared vacant & a mandatory rematch held within 9 months to fight for the vacant title. If either fighter cannot fight within the 9 month window they forfiet thier automatic shot at the belt & the next contender gets thier turn. Keep the division moving.
@@gqwarrior6694 that doesn't make sense. Yan made a mistake and lost fairly in a title fight so he lost the title. Sterling won so he gets the title
@@vascocarvalho2451 Actually it makes perfect sense. If you can't follow it then that says more about you than it does me
@@gqwarrior6694 nah it doesn't make sense dude. Trying to belittle someone who disagrees doesn't change that. You made an invalid point I'm afraid.
@@carphucker2973 Describing what you wrote isn't helping your cause
If a fighter is still actively fighting , then I don’t think it should be stopped .
The most divisive words in all of MMA: Connor. Khabib.
Damn that s true
Connor who
Conor who?!
... khabib who?!
Very true
Jon Jones
I wish MMA On Point would actually show the divisive clips so we could decide for ourselves.
They can’t because all footage is copyright of the UFC and the UFC would have the videos removed.
Top 10 Belt Promotions after great Performances
There was nothing divisive about Yan snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
This made me laugh. True though
Good topic this one 👏 👍
5:05 funny how they both fought in New York back in November
I bet the fans that bashed Aljo shook their head in disbelief when Lionheart continued after Jon Jones illegal knee.
Funny that people don’t like the oblique kick but will get excited about a body kick or head kick. It’s fighting.
I think it's because the kick makes people cringe.
@@Darkdirewulf But are completely fine when someone goes stiff after a headkick and a dessert of CTE... This sport and it's fans are crazy, but I love it.
Big difference between being injured and being hurt.
@@ljguy300 lol describe the difference.
@@isaiahvilla6908 Hurt guys lose the fight but can fight again in a few months. Injured guys go broke when they can't fight for a year because they had to get their knee reconstructed.
Great topic
Just in time to procrastinate my essay
Holy shit, that Askren vs watermelons clip was epic.
Jorge was beating the living shit out of Nate, the ref/doctor made the best decision with the stoppage. nate wasn't going to get going after getting beat that bad in the 4th
if you watch nate's fights you know that when he get's hurt he always comesback
@@Don-bw1eu
If you watched his fights you'd know Nate has never won a fight that went past round three
@@sarcasticgenius8563 but he has shown that he can stun and possibly win in late rounds ex: Leon vs Him, he stunned Leon and almost ko'd him
@@Don-bw1eu
Yeah well if he didn't let Jorge use him as a heavy bag for fifteen mins he might have been able to show something late, that's assuming Jorge didn't punch the rest of his eyebrow off his face before he got the chance. It's such a massive reach to assume Nate would have done anything other than continue to get smashed in the last two rounds.
@@Don-bw1eu the key word is almost
2:00 oi Bayliun that comment about most of the fans don't have to care, bang out of order. I consider that editorial and unfounded. I haven't seen any fans who weren't horrified by Baukauskus's injury regardless of their stance on those kicks being legal or illegal
Ahh when Romero’s corner pulled the ol “no hablo ingles”👌🏾
Diaz and Masvidal were veterans with decades of experience and they knew that they were fighting to be the BMF alive that night and should've been allowed to fight until the final bell or one of them stopped moving!
If Stirling hands Yan that book he's been carrying around, I really hope Yan hands him an Oscar
Wow! It’s been 3 YEARS since Masvidal was relevant?!
Chael vs silva 1
Chael thought tapping ended the round not the fight lmfao
Seth Petruzelli should be extremely grateful he was chosen to fight Kimbo. If it weren't for that fight, nobody would ever know Petruzelli even existed. Nobody knew who he was. Seth Petruzelli didn't even know Seth Petruzelli existed until that fight. He handled his business and now millions of people know who he is.
Seth Petruzelli is a damn hero
Nothing good could have happened if Askren/Lawler went on any longer. Plus with the arm going limp what was Herb supposed to do?
Not stop the fight early.
@@I_AM_BAYTOR Lawler should have kept his arm up🤷♂️
@@carphucker2973 Herb should have done his job better.
Herb explained the Askren Lawler finish on Rogans podcast, and he lays out his perspective really well. whether you wanna take his pov or not it's still and interesting listen in general. I'm pretty sure the clips uploaded
5:38 I believe big john saw that blatant foul and allowed yoel to sit while they fixed his cut situation because he saw that flagrant foul
I think Ken vs Tito 2 should be on here. I was HEATED at how fast that fight was stopped. Fight 3 proved nothing different would have happened, but in the moment, let the man fight!
Diaz Brothers are unbreakable steel.
Matt did not slam Carlos Newton at all. He got choked out and fell
That's debatable and impossible to confirm completely but what we can say with certainty is that carlos illegally held onto the cage to prevent being slammed.
@@mlwarrior that's not debatable. Carlos said he felt Matt go out. And it's obvious from the way their bodies crumble down to the mat that, it was not a controlled slam. It was Hughes going unconscious and falling. And Matt even said out of his mouth "I was out! I was out!" And Matt wasn't trying to slam him he walk them over to the cage and held them there, Carlos held onto the cage for about a second and a half before the ref said "you can't hold the cage." I don't understand why you're trying to debate stuff that's not even Up For Debate 🤷🏾♂️
@@struggle-dad6715 I'm not saying you're wrong about if he was likely out or not, but it absolutely is debatable. There is no ironclad proof. Again, my point is simply that the cage holding adds to the consideration of who won that fight.
Well in any case Carlos Newton still got KO'd from the slam/fall. You can't give Carlos the win at the end of the day because he got knocked out.
@@madgavin7568 matt certainly shouldn't have gotten the win, he go choked out! How does that even make sense?!
I initially read it as top 10 divine finishes and now I’m disappointed
you guys have to take out the high end of the audio
Was waiting for Jones Hamil!
Me too. No warning or point taken, just straight to DQ.
I read the title as "decisive", not divisive and was really confused by the thumbnail from the yan/aljo fight
bruh the thumbnail of this vid only gave aljo one pec
Big John did take the seat. Romero wouldn't get up by himself
Nowadays, Herb Dean waits for an autopsy before he stops a fight
He didn't slam Newton, he was resting Newton against the cage and he passed out and dropped him.
he said himself he slammed him tho?
matt lying?
@@tatooine_dream Yes. If he said he passed out, that means Newton wins via submission. This is a guy who bragged about sleeping with underage girls and beating the shit out of his dad with his brother. Why wouldn't he say that he slammed Carlos? lol
Jeremy Stephens vs Josh Emmett was a pretty controversial finish.
Michael Cheisa would not have got out but he wasn’t asleep and didn’t tap, no contest
Dragonheart is a good movie fr nice reference
If you said "That's Fuckin Illegal" after numbers 6 was mentioned your a real one
I mean, Mike Wilbon thinks pitcher wins are still a useful stat in baseball
I actually want Sterling to win the rematch because I know that would literally cause riot afterwards and probably 99% of people would lose their money. But obviously it's gonna be no different than the 1st fight. Yan is gonna dominate and he's getting the belt back.
Ya looks like this didn't age well...
The reason Illegal strike even if "accidental" result in a loss and a DQ and not a NC is because fighters who are obviously losing or champions losing would just throw an Illegal strike to avoid a Loss. its cowardly but when you're desperate literally fighting for your life and career. a cheap easy exit is too tempting
Good point
damn good point i had never even thought about it
That is not a good point. I don't know why these morons are gassing you up. Could you actually imagine a fighter actively losing a bout and being able to cause that situation to happen? It almost sounds impossible. If you're getting your ass kicked you're not exactly in the frame of mind to contort that situation in your favour.
@@carphucker2973 you don’t need to get your ass kicked to lose a fight. Think about those boring ass fights that go the distance without any action, all a fighter would need to hear form his corner is “you’re losing on the scorecards” and he could throw an illegal strike on purpose.
Dont think anyone is Divisive about Alja's oscar
Idea for video
"Best title reigns outside of ufc"
i dont think you can make the argument that smith was still fighting back in rounds 4 n 5. it was basically survival mode at that point.
Decisive is the word you’re looking for
I hope for your sake, this is sarcasm. Lol
Is this a joke? Please tell me this is a joke.
Raquel Pennington telling her corner "I'm done. I wanna be done" & being sent back out to slaughter doesn't qualify for this list?
it wasn't just fans who where OK with the kick many fighters and former fighters where fine with it as well. Also the kick can be defended as shown by a number of fighters including Izzy who ether deflect it or avoid it. It is really dangerous to those who fight in a boxing stance (when they turn their legs as a they throw certain punches) and karat/TKD style fighters who stand side ways. Personally i dont care much whether its ban or not, but there are many other moves that cause injures, some more severe than the oblique kick, more frequently at a higher rate and if we start banning moves that cause injures then we will have to band every move because all of them do that ( all can cause sever injure)
Never forget Micheal's eye was due to a head kick should we ban head kicks ... they can cause brain damage too.
The oblique kick is fkn gay....
This! Every move can cause permanent damage. The whole sport revolves around making your opponent go unconscious
I get both sides of the argument. I mean even when avoiding it it still does a good bit of damage but still can be avoided.
Exactly, the oblique kick is no less brutal than a fully cranked leg lock, damages the same things too, should we ban leg locks?
It think the main reason people are mad is that you can stop cranking or tap out of a leg lock or armbar, but you can't pull back from blasting a mofos knee into a cracklings. Still, I personally don't care whether it's legal or not.
tbh, Nate Diaz walks around out on his feet in or outside the octagon
“I so sorry Tim Kennedy.”
every herb dean stoppage
Yk, with the information that romero was hit because of the glove grab i dont mind the stool situation
the Kevin Lee vs Michael Chiesa fight all you have to see is that the referee was Mario Yamasaki
Tommy we need you.
No disrespect Bailey but it’s like hearing a therapist talk about MMA
I think the knees and the kicks to a grounded opponents should just be allowed, would solve and prevent a lot of useless controversies...
Yuh yuh
When a fighter enters a ring he or she understands the danger weather legal or illegal
No Couture vs. Belfort & Cutelaba vs. Ankalaev ?
Cutelaba vs. Ankalaev 1 is the worse early stoppage ever and anyone who thinks otherwise is a madman.
12:54 bro that’s not Demetrius Johnson
Dude the nate stoppage with Jorge was super necessary. The refs job is to protect the fighters health not his pride. He got demolished.
Tim’s fingers didn’t look like they were hooked in the gloves
Lawler went out in the bulldog choke. His hand dropped then bc Ben loosens the grip so he got oxygen back to his brain. FUNKY WON 100%
You dont come back to conciousness that fast bud
It's literally impossible, he popped up his head the moment Askren released his grip.
@@tibib0ss dudes just making up fake facts now because it's literally possible as heck.
Smith actually handed his teeth to the ref. This is what caused texiera to apologise
Cro cop vs kongo comes to mind
If someone hits me with an illegal strike with the belt on the line, you better fucking believe I'm taking the W. I don't care what people say. PPV points in the next fight is a huge deal financially.
Now, you wouldn't see me parading that belt around or talking shit like what Aljo has been doing. You'd never see me with a belt again until I win legitimately.
I think Diaz proved that the Jorge fight wasn’t over till it was over with the Leon Edwards fight. Who knows what the last 2 rounds would’ve looked like if Jorge was really slowing down
Diaz is certainly not the best fighter but he simply can never be counted out
Leon fight? You mean the right he got 50-45d?
@@aaronaustin9814 and had his best moment in the 5th where leon couldn't recover till the bell rang
@@vaughnordakowski8774 diaz got 50-45d bro
@@aaronaustin9814 first off it 49-46 on all scorecards since you want to repeat 50-45 so much. Secondly, yeah he's not the best fighter. I said you can never count him out, and he had his best moment at the end of the fight.
What happened to lawlers thumbs up thou
Just got the noti and I’m 4th wtf