800Frozone Strangely his hob goblin and the joker sound exactly the same. Yet when he plays fire lord Ozai or Master Eraqus he sounds distinctively different.
Norman Osborn created the Goblin persona. Kingsley's just a thief who couldn't come up with an original idea on his own, and that's ironic considering he's a fashion designer.
To be fair, Kingsley was also someone who stole other people's fashion designs when he first appeared in Spectacular Spider-Man's "belladonna" arc. So it is like him to steal people's looks!
Mark Hamill is awesome, hobgoblin in the animated series, luke skywalker, the joker, and the trickster as well as being that small character in the darksiders game.
I grew up with the 90s series, so I always preferred Hobgoblin over Green Goblin, however I completely adored the treatment the Green Goblin got in Spectacular Spiderman. Steve Blum, as always, sensational!
Thanks. To be fair, while we decided to make user suggestions a bigger/more central part of our production process, we only added that aspect in April 2013 and we've been around since 2006 (!) with a library of 7000 clips, so we would not have run out of ideas even if we didn't ask you guys for ideas ;) - it's just that we prefer to give you guys what you want. So that's more about being viewer-centric & creating videos that you want than about running out of ideas!
Too bad they never used the Hobgoblin as the Main Antagonist in any of the other Spider-Man Movies. They should’ve had that same guy who murdered Uncle Ben Parker to don the Hobgoblin costume, since the Hobgoblin’s Origin is related to that of thief & petty thug Arnold Samuel "Lefty" Donovan. Imagine if he was somehow used as a test subject for Norman Osbourne to test the Goblin gear, and all because of one simple motive…..REVENGE.
NO! Spider-Man 3 doesn't exists! never ever heard of that movie in my life! no sir! that horrible piece of shit emo peter that-70's-show-kid-as-venon ridiculous shit was never made! no no! thank god that movie doesn't actually exists or else I would be insanely pissed
Though the Green Goblin is superior, the hobgoblin is always the most interesting. When you fight the Green Goblin, you know its Osborn you're fighting. When it's the Hobgoblin, you don't know if it's Kingsly, or some poor sap who's been hypnotized. Also he's one of the only villains to never get truly caught and even retired for a good while until Phil tried to take his mantel. And finally, while Osborne seeks power, Kingsly seeks wealth, as he was a well known mercenary for hire who eventually made more profit selling super villain/hero names/identity without lifting a finger. Also his costume looks cooler
haustyl12 and plus with the Hob Goblin, it makes you wonder if you're battling the Joker all along, hiding under a new identity to escape Batman's eye (since The Joker and Hob Goblin are both voiced by Mark Hamill)
haustyl12 But Green Goblin is more iconic, he killed Gwen Stacy and was the first villain to unmask Spider man plus the Green Goblin is Harry's father making his identity more interesting
Charles Floden Well I did say the Green Goblin is superior and the best Goblin. I just like the Hobgoblin more because of the mystery of his idenity, and how he's a very well calculated villain who knows what he wants and isn't insane like the Green Goblin
Hobgoblin was always my favorite character. Amazing Spider-man #239 (his first fight with Spidey) is my favorite comic ever. However, you guys missed a key element in his backstory- Ned Leeds. After Hobgoblin lost the Battle Wagon, he kidnapped Ned and brainwashed him into believing he was the Hobgoblin. Ned, as "Hobby," traded information with the Kingpin until Jason Macendale, a failed mercenary, hired a man called the Foreigner to kill Leeds and steal his gear. Since Leeds didn't have the strength enhancing drug Kingsely had, he was overpowered and killed by the Foreigner's goons, allowing Macendale to assume the mantel as the 5th Hobgoblin (after Kingsley, Lefty, Ned, and Flash). Macendale was the Hobgoblin from the late 80s to mid 90s, where he was finally caught, and outed Ned as the "original" Hobgoblin. This caused Rodrick to come out of retirement, kill Macendale, and reclaim the mantle of the Hobgoblin... only to be caught two issues later by Spidey. Fun fact: When Ned was revealed to be the "original" Hobgoblin in 1987, the writers at the time intended for that revelation to be true. It wasn't until almost a decade later when a group of new writers, sick of the "new, improved" Techno-Hobgoblin, realized a big continuity error in the "Leeds is the Hobgoblin" story- the original Hobgoblin could lift a medium-sized car, and yet Leeds was killed by a small team of assassins with normal strength. The real Hobgoblin should've been able to take on and easily kill the whole squad, but the assassins actually broke Leeds' arm before they killed him, something that should be impossible. That error caused the writers to reintroduce the Hobgoblin in his original outfit, and give Leeds a much-needed retconn and ultimately Kingsley revealed that Leeds was just a patsy, just like Lefty.
Although I like Green Goblin as Spiderman's Arch-enemy (whenever Venom and Doc Ock aren't around) I like Hobgoblin more, because he isn't insane, isn't hampered by a split personality, and was clever enough to keep his identity a secret by way of brainwashing, money bribes, and doubles. Creating a mystery that went on for a long time before we found out it was Roderick kingsly...where as I think we all knew who green goblin was from the start.He also was smart enough to refuse to use the goblin tech or formula until he had worked out the bugs, same cant be said for Harry Osborn as New Goblin.
Dropkick Piper I’m in agreement. I like the intertwined histories, and the combination of technology, horror and character development necessary to these guys personas. The movies kind of skipped the horror, leaving just the mania and a watered down terror.....
Rodrick Kingsley is the original Hobgoblin. I read the comics. He figured out a way of getting the strength without the insanity. In the 90's cartoon. The Hobgoblin showed up before the Greengoblin. Instead of the other way around. And they revealed him to be Jason Philip Macendale. He was also the Jack O'Lantern.
Another example of the animated series screwing up origins and characters. TBAS did that with Tim Drake splicing him with Jason Todd and mixed Hal Jordan and Kyle Rayner no idea why they did that.
Roderick Kingsley had an animated appearance in Spectacular Spider-Man... Hobgoblin was planned for season 3 and we got a taste of “Kingsley” having inconsistencies in personality when under duress. They also changed his occupation to a CEO of a perfume company (probably to justify the chemistry issue) It could have been great!
Me too. Better costume and actually more practical with covering his tracks and identity. I think of the original Green Goblin's time ending when he died the Night Gwen Stacy Died, so I sort of see GG as being a great adversary but painfully inept at keeping his plans together. I mean him killing himself with the glider for one and the constant amnesia and his laboratory being stumbled upon by many different people over the years. The guy was sloppy. Hobgoblin on the other hand had his shit together.
Nightman221k Well alright I respected your defense but still u have to give respect that is due. If not for green goblin we would not have hobgoblin. Hobgobllin is still a rip off of this magnificent villain. Venom is not really a villain to me because he has no real motivation. When he is not killing spiderman he does not do anything villainess. He even saved a baby from drowning. so how is he a real villain. doc ock , Osborn, and carnage are true villains. admit it only reason venom and hobgoblin gets so much love because they look cool, which is retarded. not calling u one just other people.
What's interesting is that Hobgoblin was created after Spider-Man let a petty crook go free, much like he did with the burglar who ended up murdering Uncle Ben. After Spider-Man gave up chasing the black dude because he was tired of crawling through the sewer, the criminal ended up discovering Norman Osborn's secret lair.
Also, something to keep in mind is that Hobgoblin was awesome when he was a mystery man but started sucking when the writers began fucking with his secret identity. The original writer, Roger Stern, was building up to a Roderick Kingsley reveal. Fans picked up on this and correctly guessed who he was, though, so when different writers took over before Stern could finish they decided to reveal Hobgoblin as Ned Leeds instead. This was in 1987, and only ten years later in 1997 did Roger Stern come back to set the record straight with Hobgoblin Lives. So for ten years it was continuity that Ned Leeds was the Hobgoblin. This was annoying to fans because all the blatant clues building up to the reveal pointed to Roderick Kingsley. Ned Leeds was a longtime supporting character who never exhibited any criminal behavior during the prior twenty or so years he had been featured in the comic.
see and that is why I LOVE this channel I swear I had my own story about the Hobgoblin for so long I ddnt even really care. Thank you for setting this straight.
what always bugged me is that in the 90's series, in season 1, the episode 11, named 'The Hobgoblin part 1', you get a glimpse of Hobgoblin unmasked from the back. There you can see that he is black and bald. This, even though he is much later revealed to be someone of compleatly different complexion
The Hobgoblin is still my favorite goblin. I'm glad to see him in the comics and hope to see him replace the Green Goblin in the movies someday. I think him setting other people up for the fall would be interesting and for Roderick Kingsley to get away at the end of the movie. Making him totally different than how the Green Goblin had been seen in the movies. The Hobgoblin is more of a thief anyway.
Both Green Goblin and Hobgoblin could benefit a power makeover... simply because there's no way an ordinary, small satchel could contain a seemingly limitless supply of pumpkin bombs, etc. Unless it's magical.
Green Goblin aka Norman Osborn first appeared in (comic) Amazing Spiderman 14 , when Norman died his son Harry took over as the second green goblin , but at no point in time was Harry Osborn the hobgoblin but in fact the second version of his father aka 2nd Green Goblin ----------- for everyone who keeps saying is Harry Osborn the hobgoblin, god pick up a damn comic book
Hobgoblin has always been one of my favorite Spider-man villains ever since both a. he appeared in the Gang Wars cross-over and b. his Secret Wars action figure. Probably the most underrated Spidey foe ever. Do to the Hobgoblins demonic character design, a friend's bible-belting mother declared all comic books the work of the devil and took away her sons entire comic book collection and gave it to me! Tough break, but had some key issues I needed to fill holes in my own collection. Strange how in order to save her son from eternal damnation, she obviously didn't give thought to my salvation. Ah well, he's probably more successful than me and and living a better life.
Much like the Joker in the DCAU, most of the Hobgoblin's appeal is in Mark Hamill and his animated voice portrayal. Funny how the man who's been best known for playing the greatest hero in the universe is also, arguably, THE king of villains in voice acting
I think Hobgoblin was a really good villian in the Spiderman cartoon series. Probably the only reason though that Hobgoblin was able to beat Spiderman so many times was cause of the hang glider. And remember, in the cartoon, Spiderman didn't beat Hobgolin, Green Goblin did.
Yes he performed the Hobgoblin and later his revealed alter ego, Jason Philip Macendale, the latter a departure from the comic book version. Instead of a mercenary who switched from Jack O'Lantern to Hobgoblin, Macendale in the animated series was a street hood hired and trained by Osborn to assassinate Wilson Fisk. He later used his ill-gotten gains to finance a new socialite identity known as Jason Phillips, which he used to court Felicia Hardy until being exposed.
i like both goblins in fact.. Both men have private identites that nobody suspects., Norman Osborn is a rich man, Roderick Kingsley and Jason Phillips Mcdendale were both rich too. i like it when sombody lives a double life..
@@lunakingsley.7247 true, the Kingpin was among the Green Goblin's prisoners along with Mary Jane Watson, Black Cat's mother, J Jonah Jameson, and other Oscorp board members
In the 1994 Spiderman series Hobgoblin was voiced by none other than Mark Hamill. (aka voice of the Joker)
***** Really!!!!!!!
***** who doesnt know this... i didnt call you a liar... dum ass
800Frozone Strangely his hob goblin and the joker sound exactly the same. Yet when he plays fire lord Ozai or Master Eraqus he sounds distinctively different.
800Frozone The best psychopast's voice in the history.
800Frozone just imagine if the joker was the hobgoblin under the mask that would have been a great plot twist
Hobgoblin is so underrated and truly deserves his own appearance in the MCU.
There are theories that Filipino-American Hollywood star Jacob Batalon will play Hobgoblin, aka Ned Leeds.
@@kurtgavinponce1431 probably.
It’s literally Ned
@@user-mc6mm2ic8e that’s still not hobgoblin at all tho. He just MIGHT be the hobgoblin.
@@kurtgavinponce1431 considering neds jacket In no way home is the hob goblins iconic colours I think it's pretty obvious this will happen
Ned's gonna become hobgoblin
No
Norman Osborn created the Goblin persona. Kingsley's just a thief who couldn't come up with an original idea on his own, and that's ironic considering he's a fashion designer.
If Kingsley was stronger and smarter than Norman, the guy could have come up with his own gimmicks himself.
***** in the ultimate marvel Osborn is the shit
To be fair, Kingsley was also someone who stole other people's fashion designs when he first appeared in Spectacular Spider-Man's "belladonna" arc. So it is like him to steal people's looks!
That's why he hired crooks to take out the competition. It's kinda his thing
That's all Fashion Designers don't is steal 😂. It's not so ironic.
And another comic book villain voiced by Mark Hamill...
No wonder I thought of Joker as soon as I heard him.
@@DrawbackDrawback Yeah. That "funeral" line totally sounded like something like Joker would say.
@@bromodragone8405 well it was around the time he was doing work for BTAS so he probably referenced his joker side a bit for the role 🃏
Hobgoblin is one of my favorite villans. One of the most underated. Anyone else agree?
Yes i love hog goblin
Yea
I definitely agree with you!! 👍
You aint alone man, him and carnage always been my fav
One of my favorite villains and highly UNDERRATED.
I slightly prefer Hobgoblin over Green Goblin because he was voiced by Mark Hamill in the animated series.
Before Green Goblin, Hobgoblin was in my opinion as Spiderman's greatest villain. The eventually Green Goblin reigned supreme.
Mark Hamill is awesome, hobgoblin in the animated series, luke skywalker, the joker, and the trickster as well as being that small character in the darksiders game.
Bl00DY617 and lord ozai in avatar the last airbender
Starkman87 oh yeah forgot about that one.
I did not know that lol.
I grew up with the 90s series, so I always preferred Hobgoblin over Green Goblin, however I completely adored the treatment the Green Goblin got in Spectacular Spiderman. Steve Blum, as always, sensational!
God damn 90's cartoons will always be the best.
Thumbs up if you want to see hobgoblin in the homecoming series
SJ RANKS he is going to be in Spiderman Homecoming
I think
SJ RANKS no he isn't
SJ RANKS I want to see the symbiotes
SJ RANKS would be too awesome
I have a soft spot for the Hobgoblin because he was the first Spider-man villain I ever saw back when i had the "Revenge of the goblin" VHS tape.
Thanks. To be fair, while we decided to make user suggestions a bigger/more central part of our production process, we only added that aspect in April 2013 and we've been around since 2006 (!) with a library of 7000 clips, so we would not have run out of ideas even if we didn't ask you guys for ideas ;) - it's just that we prefer to give you guys what you want. So that's more about being viewer-centric & creating videos that you want than about running out of ideas!
Too bad they never used the Hobgoblin as the Main Antagonist in any of the other Spider-Man Movies.
They should’ve had that same guy who murdered Uncle Ben Parker to don the Hobgoblin costume, since the Hobgoblin’s Origin is related to that of thief & petty thug Arnold Samuel "Lefty" Donovan. Imagine if he was somehow used as a test subject for Norman Osbourne to test the Goblin gear, and all because of one simple motive…..REVENGE.
Ned leeds...
The second best comic book villain voice Mark Hamill ever did
My favorite Spider-Man villain. So glad you did him!
I prefer the Green Goblin to Hobgoblin, but Hobby is seriously underrated. He clearly deserves a spot on the top 5 Spidey-villains.
Completely agree.
Hes just the cheap knock off version of the green goblin change my mind
@@CaptainYEE Read some of the comic storylines involving the Hobgoblin and that will change your mind. He actually is a pretty interesting character.
@@CaptainYEE hob gob is fucking badass, just as the green one lol.
The HobGoblin is so awesome he was one of my favourite villains as a kid after watching the animated series.
James Franco in Spider-Man 3 is credited as New Goblin. Not Hobgoblin.
NO! Spider-Man 3 doesn't exists! never ever heard of that movie in my life! no sir! that horrible piece of shit emo peter that-70's-show-kid-as-venon ridiculous shit was never made! no no! thank god that movie doesn't actually exists or else I would be insanely pissed
Felipe Aguena are you stupid?
cris damien
No, he's in denial.
Felipe Aguena Spiderman 3 sucked but Harry Osborns new goblin suit and tech was sweeten that movie the only good thing about it
Cade Ferguson Don't forget Sandman's first scene. That was class.
The hobgoblin mask appeared in Spiderman 3 between the New goblin and the Green goblin mask forshadowing his debut
Wait, wait, WHAT?!!! I have to go back and rewatch that scene.
Yeah I always noticed that as a kid and always wondered if that was hobgoblin or just an enhancement on the green goblin suit
Though the Green Goblin is superior, the hobgoblin is always the most interesting. When you fight the Green Goblin, you know its Osborn you're fighting. When it's the Hobgoblin, you don't know if it's Kingsly, or some poor sap who's been hypnotized. Also he's one of the only villains to never get truly caught and even retired for a good while until Phil tried to take his mantel. And finally, while Osborne seeks power, Kingsly seeks wealth, as he was a well known mercenary for hire who eventually made more profit selling super villain/hero names/identity without lifting a finger. Also his costume looks cooler
haustyl12 and plus with the Hob Goblin, it makes you wonder if you're battling the Joker all along, hiding under a new identity to escape Batman's eye (since The Joker and Hob Goblin are both voiced by Mark Hamill)
haustyl12 But Green Goblin is more iconic, he killed Gwen Stacy and was the first villain to unmask Spider man plus the Green Goblin is Harry's father making his identity more interesting
Charles Floden Well I did say the Green Goblin is superior and the best Goblin.
I just like the Hobgoblin more because of the mystery of his idenity, and how he's a very well calculated villain who knows what he wants and isn't insane like the Green Goblin
+Charles Floden that's why I think he's a better character the venom or even carnage.
haustyl12 isn't there also a version of Hob Goblin which is Harry Osborn ??????
Issue 238 was one of my favorite comic books for a while.
I like the hobgoblin more cause he just kinda is more appealing to me
You just haven't read or seen the best of Green Goblin.
I agree. As much as i love the green goblin i think hobgoblin is more appealing
Fullmetal335 Wel maybe they will find a way to introduce him into the new Spiderman movies.
Iam Pyre That would be cool tbh
"there was only one true goblin the green goblin" best green goblin line
Hobgoblin was always my favorite character. Amazing Spider-man #239 (his first fight with Spidey) is my favorite comic ever. However, you guys missed a key element in his backstory- Ned Leeds. After Hobgoblin lost the Battle Wagon, he kidnapped Ned and brainwashed him into believing he was the Hobgoblin. Ned, as "Hobby," traded information with the Kingpin until Jason Macendale, a failed mercenary, hired a man called the Foreigner to kill Leeds and steal his gear. Since Leeds didn't have the strength enhancing drug Kingsely had, he was overpowered and killed by the Foreigner's goons, allowing Macendale to assume the mantel as the 5th Hobgoblin (after Kingsley, Lefty, Ned, and Flash). Macendale was the Hobgoblin from the late 80s to mid 90s, where he was finally caught, and outed Ned as the "original" Hobgoblin. This caused Rodrick to come out of retirement, kill Macendale, and reclaim the mantle of the Hobgoblin... only to be caught two issues later by Spidey.
Fun fact: When Ned was revealed to be the "original" Hobgoblin in 1987, the writers at the time intended for that revelation to be true. It wasn't until almost a decade later when a group of new writers, sick of the "new, improved" Techno-Hobgoblin, realized a big continuity error in the "Leeds is the Hobgoblin" story- the original Hobgoblin could lift a medium-sized car, and yet Leeds was killed by a small team of assassins with normal strength. The real Hobgoblin should've been able to take on and easily kill the whole squad, but the assassins actually broke Leeds' arm before they killed him, something that should be impossible. That error caused the writers to reintroduce the Hobgoblin in his original outfit, and give Leeds a much-needed retconn and ultimately Kingsley revealed that Leeds was just a patsy, just like Lefty.
Although I like Green Goblin as Spiderman's Arch-enemy (whenever Venom and Doc Ock aren't around) I like Hobgoblin more, because he isn't insane, isn't hampered by a split personality, and was clever enough to keep his identity a secret by way of brainwashing, money bribes, and doubles. Creating a mystery that went on for a long time before we found out it was Roderick kingsly...where as I think we all knew who green goblin was from the start.He also was smart enough to refuse to use the goblin tech or formula until he had worked out the bugs, same cant be said for Harry Osborn as New Goblin.
I'm more intrigued with the hobgoblin even back in the day when I read comics as a kid, very underrated villain
I think their both good.
Dropkick Piper I’m in agreement. I like the intertwined histories, and the combination of technology, horror and character development necessary to these guys personas. The movies kind of skipped the horror, leaving just the mania and a watered down terror.....
I agree.
I don't
Rodrick Kingsley is the original Hobgoblin. I read the comics. He figured out a way of getting the strength without the insanity. In the 90's cartoon. The Hobgoblin showed up before the Greengoblin. Instead of the other way around. And they revealed him to be Jason Philip Macendale. He was also the Jack O'Lantern.
Another example of the animated series screwing up origins and characters. TBAS did that with Tim Drake splicing him with Jason Todd and mixed Hal Jordan and Kyle Rayner no idea why they did that.
@MrAmsterdamcity1 A brainwashed Ned Leeds. Yes!
Phil Ulrich went from a reporter to a heroic Green Goblin and went crazy as villain Hobgoblin.
Jacko lantern! Hell yeah.....i loved hob goblin man he just looked sick
Thank you thank you thank you. I have been a Hobgoblin fan since I was a kid, Its good to finally know this, thank you
I always thoroughly enjoy these videos, they're mentally relaxing & "carefree", a welcome change. Thank you for what you do!
I like the hood.
I always loved the hobgoblin more than green. ^^
booooooo
My favorite Spidey villain. He needs to be used more.
Good to see that Mark Hamill wasn't type casted into a role where he was playing a colorfully dress, cackling psychopath.
Roderick Kingsley had an animated appearance in Spectacular Spider-Man... Hobgoblin was planned for season 3 and we got a taste of “Kingsley” having inconsistencies in personality when under duress. They also changed his occupation to a CEO of a perfume company (probably to justify the chemistry issue) It could have been great!
I like hobgoblin more but green goblin is still awesome!
Hobgoblin is awesome but Green Goblin is the best.
Ultimate green goblin is my favorite
The ultimate comic green goblin not the show green goblin from ultimate spiderman
The Hobgoblin is the Scarlet Spider of the Green Goblin.
POV: u watching this when some rumor said ned was the hobgoblin
Mark Hamill's Hobgoblin is AWESOME!!
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...Demogoblin origin, hmmm?
Isn't he the old Jack O'Lantern who killed the first Hobgoblin, took his identity, then got empowered by N'astirh during "Inferno"?
Bruno Greenman i think so
Agreed, I want to see the Demogoblin origin.
What about Proto goblin origins?
Bruno Greenman No no Kingsley killed him, his name is/was Jason Macendale.
HOBGOBLIN IN THE SPIDER-MAN SEQUEL FOR THE VILLAN PLEASE SONY / MARVEL MAKE IT HAPPEN
The Green Goblin for me - "BECAUSE I'M THE REAL DEAL YOU CHEAP IMITATION!!" GAHAHAHAHAHA ;-)
Kingsley was retroactively made the mystery man. Hobgoblin was originally revealed to be reporter Ned Leeds.
I prefer Hobgoblin than Greengoblin
Me too. Better costume and actually more practical with covering his tracks and identity. I think of the original Green Goblin's time ending when he died the Night Gwen Stacy Died, so I sort of see GG as being a great adversary but painfully inept at keeping his plans together. I mean him killing himself with the glider for one and the constant amnesia and his laboratory being stumbled upon by many different people over the years. The guy was sloppy. Hobgoblin on the other hand had his shit together.
Sort of why I do prefer Hobgoblin.
Nightman221k Well alright I respected your defense but still u have to give respect that is due. If not for green goblin we would not have hobgoblin. Hobgobllin is still a rip off of this magnificent villain. Venom is not really a villain to me because he has no real motivation. When he is not killing spiderman he does not do anything villainess. He even saved a baby from drowning. so how is he a real villain. doc ock , Osborn, and carnage are true villains. admit it only reason venom and hobgoblin gets so much love because they look cool, which is retarded. not calling u one just other people.
@@trpoihgg yeah but I still prefer Hobgoblin
so do I
What's interesting is that Hobgoblin was created after Spider-Man let a petty crook go free, much like he did with the burglar who ended up murdering Uncle Ben. After Spider-Man gave up chasing the black dude because he was tired of crawling through the sewer, the criminal ended up discovering Norman Osborn's secret lair.
Also, something to keep in mind is that Hobgoblin was awesome when he was a mystery man but started sucking when the writers began fucking with his secret identity. The original writer, Roger Stern, was building up to a Roderick Kingsley reveal. Fans picked up on this and correctly guessed who he was, though, so when different writers took over before Stern could finish they decided to reveal Hobgoblin as Ned Leeds instead. This was in 1987, and only ten years later in 1997 did Roger Stern come back to set the record straight with Hobgoblin Lives.
So for ten years it was continuity that Ned Leeds was the Hobgoblin. This was annoying to fans because all the blatant clues building up to the reveal pointed to Roderick Kingsley. Ned Leeds was a longtime supporting character who never exhibited any criminal behavior during the prior twenty or so years he had been featured in the comic.
It would seem Spider-Man's greatest enemy is himself.
Aaron Kalat Deep man! Deep!
ThePinkMan spider-man created the hobgoblin indirectly
see and that is why I LOVE this channel I swear I had my own story about the Hobgoblin for so long I ddnt even really care. Thank you for setting this straight.
Fiiinally!!!! I asd for this in the comments a while ago!!!! Thank you
what always bugged me is that in the 90's series, in season 1, the episode 11, named 'The Hobgoblin part 1', you get a glimpse of Hobgoblin unmasked from the back. There you can see that he is black and bald. This, even though he is much later revealed to be someone of compleatly different complexion
Ned
Hobgoblin is my favorite spidey villain. He was the best in the 90's Spider-Man! And even better that he was voiced by mark hamill
The Roger Stern Hobgoblin is the best. He did more with than Stan Lee ever did with Green Goblin.
The Hobgoblin is still my favorite goblin. I'm glad to see him in the comics and hope to see him replace the Green Goblin in the movies someday. I think him setting other people up for the fall would be interesting and for Roderick Kingsley to get away at the end of the movie. Making him totally different than how the Green Goblin had been seen in the movies. The Hobgoblin is more of a thief anyway.
Supervillain fashion designer, great idea
That moment when you close your eyes and hear the Joker fighting with Skeletor...
this was always my favorite goblin
Both Green Goblin and Hobgoblin could benefit a power makeover... simply because there's no way an ordinary, small satchel could contain a seemingly limitless supply of pumpkin bombs, etc. Unless it's magical.
I never understood that either
The glider has weapons too, don't forget
Maybe he borrowed it from Deadpool?
Hobgoblin vs The Green Goblin? Whelp Spidey, only one thing to do now... Get some popcorn, this'll be goooood...
I love Hobgoblin even more after his miniseries in axis
the two are amazing
Green Goblin aka Norman Osborn first appeared in (comic) Amazing Spiderman 14 , when Norman died his son Harry took over as the second green goblin , but at no point in time was Harry Osborn the hobgoblin but in fact the second version of his father aka 2nd Green Goblin ----------- for everyone who keeps saying is Harry Osborn the hobgoblin, god pick up a damn comic book
Are we forgetting about the grey goblin?
Having the first big change the Hobgoblin makes be to the costume is a wonderfully subtle clue to point to the fashion designer.
Mark Hamill, God bless you. You're a great voice actor for insane villains.
Hobgoblin has always been one of my favorite Spider-man villains ever since both a. he appeared in the Gang Wars cross-over and b. his Secret Wars action figure. Probably the most underrated Spidey foe ever. Do to the Hobgoblins demonic character design, a friend's bible-belting mother declared all comic books the work of the devil and took away her sons entire comic book collection and gave it to me! Tough break, but had some key issues I needed to fill holes in my own collection. Strange how in order to save her son from eternal damnation, she obviously didn't give thought to my salvation. Ah well, he's probably more successful than me and and living a better life.
Timothy Phillips wow really? What a story. Hobgoblin has always been my favorite, also.
Much like the Joker in the DCAU, most of the Hobgoblin's appeal is in Mark Hamill and his animated voice portrayal. Funny how the man who's been best known for playing the greatest hero in the universe is also, arguably, THE king of villains in voice acting
Ya need to make a playlist for superhero/villain orgins
ahaha in the end! mark hamill was perfect as the hobgoblin!
Gob Hobllin' all the way!
i think in the animated series form the 90s they made the hobgoblin come before the Greengoblin
I wish he was in Ultimate Spiderman and should be the main villain for Spiderman:Homecoming.
they did
Holy nostalgia, why is this being recommended to me 9 years later?
this is my favorite villian
Personally, I feel that Hobgoblin is (pardon the pun) criminally underrated. He needs to appear in more stuff!!
I think Hobgoblin was a really good villian in the Spiderman cartoon series. Probably the only reason though that Hobgoblin was able to beat Spiderman so many times was cause of the hang glider. And remember, in the cartoon, Spiderman didn't beat Hobgolin, Green Goblin did.
Hobgoblin and Loki are my favourite marvel villains
One of my favorites
Yes he performed the Hobgoblin and later his revealed alter ego, Jason Philip Macendale, the latter a departure from the comic book version. Instead of a mercenary who switched from Jack O'Lantern to Hobgoblin, Macendale in the animated series was a street hood hired and trained by Osborn to assassinate Wilson Fisk. He later used his ill-gotten gains to finance a new socialite identity known as Jason Phillips, which he used to court Felicia Hardy until being exposed.
No mention of my favorite: Demogoblin.
I love both of the goblins
both where awesome
Matk Hamill should of voiced Green Goblin in TAS, that being said I love Hobgoblin. Hobby is the man
hobgoblin is way more fun than Green Goblin
thank you watch mojo for doing the origins of the hobgoblin
Hobgoblin is someone i would like to see in MCU Spider-Man movies
The Hobgoblin mask did appear in Spider-Man 3 between the Green and New Goblin masks.
Actually its the gold goblin
+BuddyGuard Dela Cruz there's no gold goblin in Earth-616, so that mask in Spider-Man 3 is the Hobgoblins.
+John03ication The movie isnt in Earth 616 it's in Earth-96283
it was the Green Goblin painted In gold
One of the best moments in the cartoon. Green Goblin vs Hobgoblin. And people said that show was no good.
Lobo in in pre-prod.
I wish the hobgoblin would show up more in shows, games and I hope the amazing spiderman 3
hey watchmojo if you didn't do a super villain origin episode on anti venom
i like both goblins in fact.. Both men have private identites that nobody suspects., Norman Osborn is a rich man, Roderick Kingsley and Jason Phillips Mcdendale were both rich too. i like it when sombody lives a double life..
kristian hove of course, Jason Phillips Macendale, who's been on the Kingpin's payroll before
@@damianprock1650 the only goblin to not be under kingpin's pay roll is new goblin.
@@lunakingsley.7247 yes, that's Harry Osborne, son of the original Green Goblin, Norman Osborne
@@damianprock1650 I know but as far as I know he is the only of the goblin's to not work with kingpin.
@@lunakingsley.7247 true, the Kingpin was among the Green Goblin's prisoners along with Mary Jane Watson, Black Cat's mother, J Jonah Jameson, and other Oscorp board members
I luv both
I'm a fan of them both, they're even more deadly teamed up.
i want to see Green goblin vs. Joker
I would pay to see that XD
Haha like a DC comic movie that would be epic
why he's so fucking boring? worst Villian ever...just lame
I wouldnt say Worst..though he is kinda boring...
Who is the most boring?
Nobgoblin
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We love the hobgoblins yeah because they are awesome and the best and the greatest and amazing and all ways wicked!!!!!!!.
Hobgoblin is more cool.. I would like to see him in the next Spider-Man Homecoming movie in the MCU..
Nob Gobblin'
hob nobblin. hob nob 0.0
Oh please! This one should be obvious, Hobknocker!
I love that cartoon show
I really enjoy both green goblin and hobgoblin I think they go great with the comics and the 1994 tv series