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At the end of the day, it's crazy how far video gaming has come. I remember back to 1981 when my best bud bought a stupid expensive Intellivision console, with the tethered controllers, $80 game cartridges connected to a 24" CRT console TV. We're talking pixels for graphic's, worse than what we had with the first few gen's of the PS consoles! Man, we played thousands of hours of Dungeons and Dragons, my favorite at that time. And, yes I'm getting old!! 😜🤣
Don't forget using the RF input and tuning into channel 3 if you lived in the North American NTSC area. Curious because I remember it was easy with channel 3 in NTSC than whatever channel RF used via PAL (I'm German, so we used PAL, though we at least had for RGB the good ol' SCART).
Truly keep contradicting yourself about this unit. You've gone on and on (this video & others) about what you disapprove of just to say it's "100%" worth it's investment.
That's what I've noticed, it's the same video every couple of days with the exact same pro's and con's and the end result being "buy it" I bought one and I'm happy with it but what do I know? :p
The cod patch did go through and is in patch notes. 120hz mode has the visuals of the 60hz mode but at steady frame rate. Turn off 120 mode and now it is unlocked frame rate on vrr that runs at 80-100 hz (still really smooth) with the highest quality visuals. Check it out - they just didn't label the changes in menu as ur expecting... they were waiting till season 1 to put out updates as it is for both warzone and bo6 . Gran turismo patch should be out next week.
But the 60 hz mode seems to have a lot of artifact (white dots on buildings and back grounds) problems. I read about it and I tried it a little bit ago and same deal with me. Playing on LG C series 77 inch OLED. So it's not my TV's problem. Seems to be wide spread. In other words the 120 hz mode is still best mode until a future patch.
You had said "the 120hz mode is still best mode until a future patch", I would assume your talking about the 60hz high fidelity mode.. even with a patch this mode would be worse (in most people's opinion) no matter hiw good it looked.. multiplayer online fps shooters, the higher the FPS the better.
@codyking4253 A future patch could bring 120 quality mode or if it stays between 80-100 fps even in a future patch some folks might prefer better image quality especially in campaign. I was just stating and confirming my findings. Why you're trying to question my comment or playing style when I'm just stating information is silly
I think it's important to mention that the "short comings" of the PS5 compared to the price point is, completely, the fault of the scalpers and game developers. If the PS5 wasn't so elusive for so long ( at a resale average of $1500 ), game developers would have prioritized what was known as "next-gen" consoles at that time... Games and their developers, TO THIS DAY , include PS4 compatibility for this reason. The stock of the PS5 was there, by the way, the first day alone was at around 5 million units. So the scalping of the console was what made it so hard for developers to prioritize it because they would lose sales of their games since most people didn't have the PS5 at release. The pandemic allowed a lot of people who were at home to start the resale business and whatnot; reselling limited fashion items, collectibles, and electronics so it gatekept many gamers from buying what would have been next-gen exclusives. You can see the difference in graphics of next-gen console games. You just can't expect developers to make double the amount of ports for old-gen consoles without sacrificing performance (frame rate, refresh, ray-tracing, etc.). It's like making one game for PS4 (limited capability) and one game for PS5 (max performance). That's a lot of money they would lose. And that's why the PS5 Pro is introducing AI upscaling to old-gen games. P.S. Native backwards compatibility and scalability are irrelevant; my proof: Demon's Souls. It was a PS5 launch title and *still* looks amazing compared to the games where developers made sure to make their games with as many ports as possible. Third-party-developers also had access to the PS5 dev kit, there are major titles (CoD) that push to the max capability of the PS5. I remember playing Warzone in late 2020 and early 2021; and it made PS4s sound like a jet engine. So it was definitely a money and availability issue that has affected games; even today.
That’s not really how it works. As consoles become more PC like, we’re in the first generation to really have native backwards compatibility. Games, and the engines used to create them, are scalable. If a game can be scaled down to run on a PS4 for example, they’re going to do this. Also, long gone are the days of 1-3 year development cycles. Games regularly take 5 years on average, and many of the biggest games take longer. Most of the games releasing in 2020-2024 most likely started development last gen, before dev kits for the PS5 and Series X even went out. Making it even easier to essentially scale these games up for the next generation. You are playing a current generation game though, as you’re getting bumped up settings, higher resolutions, 60 fps, extras like Ray Tracing, and so on. No one is running Cyberpunk on a 4090 with Psycho path tracing and ultra settings at 120 fps bemoaning how it’s a last gen game because someone with a 2060 can also run the game (at considerably lower settings). Consoles are no different. Honestly cross gen is why we had so many games hitting closer to 4K at 60 fps at the start of the gen, not in spite of it. If a game can run on a base XBox One, it means current gen gets a ton of bells and whistles, higher res, and 60 fps. We’ve seen what is happening as we move fully into current gen only. Internal resolutions as low as 509p-720p (less on Series S), heavy reliance on upscalers with subpar image quality, and shakey performance. As upscaling tech gets better, and once frame generation fully makes it’s way to consoles it will alleviate some of this load though and things will improve. As far as cross gen games though, that has nothing to do with scalpers. Would it have made the games we got better somehow if they were only released on current gen, despite being able to be run on last gen consoles when scaled down enough? We wouldn’t have got different games or anything. We’d have got exactly what we got as those games started development in 2018-2019. We’re only seeing more current gen only now because we’re closing the dev cycle that started in 2020-2021. Games that started development this generation. If there were no scalpers or shortages we wouldn’t have got different games though.
I think if you already have a ps5 then a tv upgrade should be your purchase. Think the regular ps5 benefits a lot from just this updrade. Just make sure you get that hdmi 2.1 port/ports and make sure its actually 120hz refresh rate. Not a 60hz tv with that upscaled refresh rate motionx feature.
I may try to cop that PS5 Slim on black Friday for my lil sister for Christmas. Holding off on the Pro. Gonna save my money for the successor of the Switch and a new gaming TV
People shitting on PS5 pro are the same people who bought the PS5 on day one with market prices. I know you regret paying that scalper, if you were just more patient, you could have gotten a PS5 pro at retail. But you would never buy a Pro, you were the same people who never bought the PS4 pro. You guys forget that there are a people who are patient and wait for more games on the new system and get the pro version. I never bought the PS4 and purchased the PS4 pro at retail when it came out. I did the same for the PS5 PRO, and I will do the same for the PS6 PRO, and I know I will see people shitting on PS6 PRO one day.
@@MrLorenzoVids I bought the fat PS3, the PS3 super slim (sliding door disc tray, The oG PS4, special edition Batman PS4, PS4 Pro, Special Edition PS4 Pro (still in box) I got 2 PS5s release date at retail, one from GameStop and one from Sony direct.) Im not getting the PS5 Pro now as the value doesn't really add up, plus I don't have a TV or Monitor to take advantage of the bells and whistles of the PS5 Pro. It's just a slight upgrade. And the PS5 isn't really struggling to load games like it was for PS4 games to PS4 Pro.
@@beasthaven1571 the M.2 ssd needs to be Gen 4. And they are all typically very fast. This is for extra storage and the M.2 specifications are the same between the consoles…
I got the pro, I’m returning it, in my opinion I don’t see the difference between it and the OG ps5 I’m getting 60 fps stable on most games on my OG PS5 and LG OLED TV but to each his own!
@FrodoUK not every game. I've had to change quite a few things. For example on off the grid, had to switch from FSR to TSR and tweak a few other things and the game looks massively better.
From what I read u really need a TV w/ a 120hz rate to "truly" max out the PS5 og & pro - I'm not a tech guy it's just what I read - what's your TV's refresh rate
Hey Ckid, First time on your channel, hey at 5:50 you are talking about the PS5pro patch on BlackOps 6, and yes it did drop with Season 1, they also promoted it on their website and console announcement at the game opening. The way certain Pro patches work, the Devs basically will enhance the game and leave just the PS5pro modes (I know other devs are leaving the old modes or re-using them). -In this case the 120hz, runs with PSSR upto 120hz (and yes it looks alot better than the OG PS5 and is basically locked 120fps now)... -Turning off the 120hz, it increases the resolution, picture quality and it then unlocks the framerate, up to 120hz also. These changes were explained by them. And the best way to play is with 120hz off, it runs and looks beautiful.
@CKid Have you tried chainging your MTU settings? When I got the last gen consoles they both shitty download speeds until I changed the MTU setting to something more compatible to my own network and after that my downloads started flying.
On my base Ps5 I get 800 download and 600 upload. I'm in New Zealand. Also I will add I had problems with it being low at one point on both so I got a hold of sony about it and the said even though the speed reads at that rate, in game it's actually different. Most games won't use more then 1.6mb on upload. Ping is different on the other hand. Depending on how close to a server you are obviously the lower it it the better. There will be benefits to wifi 7 like how many users are on a network at once and network stability, improved latency between networks and reduced power consumption.
The Portal is just a streaming device. Is everyone crazy? The only difference you will see is any Ray tracing For graphical effects outside of resolution. It's streaming an image. A better connection is the only advantage possible.
@@johnybozor2765but aren't PS4 games on the pro look much better in the pro compared to the og PS5? Not trying to be confrontational, just stating what I read , I'm gonna grab a new TV & PS5 pro ( haven't for almost 10 years & don't mind "wasting" extra 200$ on the pro due to the fact I'm getting a pile of FU $ from my union & also ALOT of PS4 games will be new to me & I want them graphically to be the best possible thus an advantage of the pro)
Your ps portal only has 1080p resolution, how can it get better when connect to ps5 pro? It is the same case when you playing ps5 pro on LCD tv, will you get the best graphic out of it?
I'm waiting on my collectors bundle but I really hope my Pulse Elite headset doesn't constantly disconnect on it. I just found out no port on the front for it and that sucks. It loses connection more when plugged into the back.
can somebody please tel me if you have ps5 with the ssd instaled in can you transfer the games on ps5 pro so that i can play where i left or do i have to replay it from the begining
You can, just use transfer data function in the settings menu, you dont need PS plus or anything just both consoles connected to the same wifi, and both consoles have to have the same account signed in. You can transfer save game data and user settings. When you're done, just instal M.2 drive to the PRO its gonna do rebuild data and you are ready to go!
One thing I had to do when I hooked up the pro to my sony oled was bump down the sharpness setting. The way PSSR upscales can give you that kind of "fried " look. It fixed it though when I bumped it down. Just some good skuttlebut for eveybody
1 Hour Later 24 hours later 3 Days later 1 week later 1 month later 6 months later 1 year later 2 years later Like bro I bought a Pro...but there is not that much info on this device lol. You're farming
Forgive my ignorance, but as someone who getting back into playing video games ( been out the game for almost 10 years) does this WiFi connection speed/specs debate only matter if you play games online? I dont play games online ( seem to remember i got vaporozed instantly when i would attempt to play fps games online ) & i prefer a good storyline ( campaign mode ) so i shouldn't need to ne concerned w/ tgus wifi speed/ spec debate since i only play video games on campaign mode ? ALL replies are much appreciated
when I play GT7 on 120 FPS for some reason the track looks a bit blurry the game play and replays when I switch to 60 it goes away, I have a QLED 4K tv that is 120 capable, any advise anyone?
Why not just add a cheap 2.5 GB usb 3.0 or USB C ethernet dongle. Those are super cheap on Amazon. Assuming you have the capability to have PS5 hard wired to network. Won't fix WiFi issue though.
Genuinely, if I didn't have an OLED VRR ALLM 120Hz TV, I wouldn't have got a Pro. But I can hands down say the only difference is the gap between higher image quality and performance performance BUT my OG PS5 was more than good enough. In fact If I had seen the PS5 Pro in action at a friends house for example I wouldn't of bought one for myself
Appreciate the shoot out! Loving every minute on this monitor! Even coming from a 49" OLED monitor already! my BO6 says it has the Pro version but i don't see any settings for it in BO6. Hopefully we can figure it out on stream tomorrow night!
Yo i appreciate the recommended monitors / tvs near the end, the only reason i dont have a PS5 base or Pro is because i just dont have a 4k monitor or tv, once i get that im in especially for GTA 6
Regarding network speed, do you know what really works? An ethernet connection. Seriously that’s always been the best way of connecting with these kinds of products… would you use Wi-Fi if you had a NAS, no absolutely not.
Another? I have ( firgive my ignorance but it seems like alot if y'all are tech dudes- is getting a mini led tv w/ a 120hz refresh rate ( or 144hz on a mini led Hisense) almost as good as an OLED w/ a 120hz refresh rate? Say an oked is a 10/10 is a mini led w/120hz a 9+/10?
I picked up the pro yesterday after finally finding a disk drive at my local walmart. I also upgraded my gaming moniter as well. To be able to take full advantage of the pro. And its 100 percent worth it.
@soccer6946 The 120fps mode is way more crisp visually and even if you turn off the 120hz mode to the quality mode you get 80+fps with even better visuals. You can't go wrong with either mode now tbh.
Always wait for the PRO. I did the same for the PS4 PRO. Not only you will have more choices in games compare to the first released version of the system, you get the upgrade. Do the same for PS6 PRO.
In my house there is a gaming PC, Series X, PS5, and PS Portal. There is also an older switch that my son doesn't play. My pc has become a gaming emulator system. Thanks to Steam and Epic, my PS5 and Series X will collect dust. There is no justification to have purchased the Pro unless it was the first version I would have owned. It seems that everyone who has purchased it is trying to justify the mirage of a graphical leap. A mid to top tier pc has been doing what the Pro is doing times 3 for years. By the time the Pro is optimized, the PS6 will be released, maybe
My wrist injury that never healed properly flares up when pc gaming it’s easier on console, Pc is superior But since I have a ps4 slim for 8 years it’s time for me to upgrade. Wouldn’t pro be better due to load times if I’m not planning to upgrade for awhile?
Since you asked for everyone speeds on the PS5Pro, here is mine! Download Speed is 595.1 Mbps and Upload Speed is 19.2 Mbps with a Wifi 7 router and CAT 8 Ethernet Cables from Amazon. I agree with you though Playstation has definitely dropped the ball with there internet capabilities I think they rushed production of this unit and didnt include top of the line Internet Connectivity on purpose simply to build up revenue and put everything that people are requesting to be inside of the Playstation 6 unfortunately. Since launch day i have been reconfiguring bandwidth settings and etc. And still no major change Sighhhh 😅
@beasthaven1571 If I had to guess more than likely this time next year to stay in competition with other competitors. Don't quote me on it though as no actual release date has been announced as of yet.
PS5 Pro definitely has a better wifi. I've had the base PS5 in my mancave that is 30 feet away from router the past few years and that has been constantly losing connection using wifi every few hours. I stopped playing multiplayer games because of it and stuck with offline. With PS5 Pro, I haven't lost wifi connection yet since I hooked it up nov 7. Thinking about starting playing online multi games again because of it.
Its not a better portal visuals but connecting to the portal with screen share is better is what i think they mean so that will make it look visually better with less grain on screen and everything
Never had an issue streaming even on the base 5. My upload speeds have always been like 10% of my down speeds but stream quality was never effected. I just output at 1080p 30fps. But I'm averaging between 750-900 mbps down speeds,granted I strictly use hardwire. Refuse to deal with wifi
Sony fanboys : pc guys have to buy so many things and they are so expensive. Same Sony fanboys gotta buy 1000 lg tv to get rhe full effect of extra 10 fps. Sony Fanboys. Pc are so complicated nobody eants all those settings. Same sony fanboys calling out pc gamers now that they have 3 different modes an can play with ray tracing 😂😂. 800 something bucks for dew minor upgrades aint it. The PS5 pro is what the ps5 was promised to be but they lied about it 😂
Singapore 10Gb fiber running eero Max 7. Getting 200mbps down, 20mbps ups. Wired and WiFi similar speeds more or less. Losing my mind on this. Plugging the same wire into a pc gets me 7-8gbps.
Great video as always brother! Man I want to grab one, but literally the only game I play is 2K and madden occasionally. I have a Rog ally X and it plays those pretty good.
Very informative video. I take care of my elderly father 24/7. My PS5 is my primary entertainment source. I have $600 in Best Buy credit from credit card rewards. I'm planning to get the PS5 Pro soon, but my TV is a 2016 65 inch Samsung LED. Would the PS5 Pro be no different than the launch PS5 on such an old TV? I am hoping to get an OLED in 2025. Peace!
Early squad. Loving my ps5 pro. It’s very noticeable in the games I play. It’s a luxury item just like a very high end PC. If you got the bank roll with it.
I flipped mine from “Automatic” to 5G only and it jumped to over 300mb/s from 75ish. I hope it stays that way. Shhhh don’t say anything, I don’t want to jinx it.
I was getting 780mbs on my launch ps5 via ethernet. On my pro im only hitting 400mbs at most. Not sure if I need to cha ge a setting on the console but definitely feel let down by sony
So on the topic of the PS5 Pro network. 1st I have AT&T Fiber 1G and my internet/router box is Wifi-6 compatible. ... I'm getting bout the same speeds as what you get ckid but my problem is when I get into a black ops 6 match I'm lagging and the Pro would simply drop the connection. And also the BO6 menu is stuttering so I'm currently deletee the game and redownload to see if that fixes the issue but overalll 700 bucks is alot of money for this decice not to work properly. Also I noticed the ethernet port is extremely sensitive to the cord slippin in and out vs the og ps5 and my xbox series x port. Thinking bout pulling up to Best Buy for a refund.
I have an lgc2. Destiny 2 which is a beautiful game with immersive landscapes looks and runs spectacular. I also play nhl 25 at w high level. It runs so smooth!
These are the kind of videos we need just the fact we are getting any negative views of the pro just makes me step back and be like what's so pro about it ? What actually is a mind blower about the pro ? Now I'm even more happy I'm getting better speeds on the og ps5 😂.
I went for a 4 pro to the 5 pro. So I think that’s the path to go. Also then I don’t know about all the issues people had with the OG models of the 4 and 5 😂
I pretty much fall into the second camp you're talking about. I am not interested in switching to PC. I want to stay with the console experience (and specifically physical media) but I also want to play at 60fps whenever possible. I care far less about shiny graphics. I don't care if it looks like a freaking PS2 game as long as it runs smooth as hell.
@@TheDanimal91 exactly y I didn’t buy it over my og ps5 even tho I could’ve got it cheaper if I traded it no thanks I’m good Sony won’t be robbing me 🤣☠️😭😅
My wifi speeds are fine..I get 700 to 800 down and anywhere from 150 to 300 up and I only have gigspeed internet but my modem sits 3 feet away from ps5 pro
If you need the real speed you have to use the internet cable. I have a 1 gig internet speed and I get 970 meg or more sometimes for download speed. Wifi don't have any use when downloading games. Example a 40 gig takes me 3 minutes to download. So maybe it's the wifi you have if you have too much devices paired with the wifi the download speed is gonna be slow.
Do a majority of people have internet service that’s the same up as it is down? I mean I do but I had Comcast most my adult life, bcs it’s all that was here, and they nerf those ups so horribly.
What's the vibes gaming on the PS5 Pro?
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There seem to be a problem with the wifi on ps5 pro's. Glad i waited, will see if it gets fixed but cable in always the best option :D
What's crazy is after a week when you start getting used to the Pro, then you go back and play the base PS5... you REALLY notice it.
Thats how I feel with my 4090 pc rig, 💎
Notice what ? noticing u got scam by sony for minor improvement? Lol
@@QiasZ6Tv hes right. when i went back to my base ps5 you instantly notice it has worse performance overall
Yeah I did the same thing lol! Go back to base ps5 and wow it's hard to go back
I been going back and forth on the launch ps5 and ps5 pro and I can tell a major difference in the games I play.
At the end of the day, it's crazy how far video gaming has come. I remember back to 1981 when my best bud bought a stupid expensive Intellivision console, with the tethered controllers, $80 game cartridges connected to a 24" CRT console TV. We're talking pixels for graphic's, worse than what we had with the first few gen's of the PS consoles! Man, we played thousands of hours of Dungeons and Dragons, my favorite at that time. And, yes I'm getting old!! 😜🤣
Don't forget using the RF input and tuning into channel 3 if you lived in the North American NTSC area. Curious because I remember it was easy with channel 3 in NTSC than whatever channel RF used via PAL (I'm German, so we used PAL, though we at least had for RGB the good ol' SCART).
Truly keep contradicting yourself about this unit. You've gone on and on (this video & others) about what you disapprove of just to say it's "100%" worth it's investment.
That's what I've noticed, it's the same video every couple of days with the exact same pro's and con's and the end result being "buy it" I bought one and I'm happy with it but what do I know? :p
New stuff Starts around 11 mins
@@KevinPatrickKennyis it loud? I’m getting one for monster hunter wilds and poe2
@@beasthaven1571 Mine is super quiet
Not having Gran Turismo 7 ready for the Pro launch is a glaring oversight. It's one of Sony's best-selling and most popular games.
Everyone is gonna switch up when gta 6 comes out
The price will drop by then
not if i have to spend another 1000 on a tv just to see the upgrade
Not really they won't need to update for that game. It probably run at 30 fps regardless unless you on pc
@dvee1 If trump is serious about the tariffs, the price will go up not down
You should have upgraded your TV with the regular ps5.
Update: my ps5 still kicks ass❤
Shocker! Horror! What will they think of next! 😂
Mine too! I feel like the pro is a cash grab.
@@ocrprime3388 yep it is, what a low-key rip 📴
@@ocrprime3388 facts
But this kicks more ass simple as 😊
Love mine. Necessary if you have a base PS5, no. BUT if you can, it’s definitely a difference. To me
PS4 slim for 8 years
My only concern is, is it Loud?
The cod patch did go through and is in patch notes. 120hz mode has the visuals of the 60hz mode but at steady frame rate. Turn off 120 mode and now it is unlocked frame rate on vrr that runs at 80-100 hz (still really smooth) with the highest quality visuals. Check it out - they just didn't label the changes in menu as ur expecting... they were waiting till season 1 to put out updates as it is for both warzone and bo6 . Gran turismo patch should be out next week.
But the 60 hz mode seems to have a lot of artifact (white dots on buildings and back grounds) problems. I read about it and I tried it a little bit ago and same deal with me. Playing on LG C series 77 inch OLED. So it's not my TV's problem. Seems to be wide spread. In other words the 120 hz mode is still best mode until a future patch.
@seanmahoney7728 Your playing a FPS online shooter.. why wouldn't you want to play at 120 fps?
@codyking4253 I am playing on 120. I stated that I was and I just tried what the patch did. Re read what I said.......
You had said "the 120hz mode is still best mode until a future patch", I would assume your talking about the 60hz high fidelity mode.. even with a patch this mode would be worse (in most people's opinion) no matter hiw good it looked.. multiplayer online fps shooters, the higher the FPS the better.
@codyking4253 A future patch could bring 120 quality mode or if it stays between 80-100 fps even in a future patch some folks might prefer better image quality especially in campaign. I was just stating and confirming my findings. Why you're trying to question my comment or playing style when I'm just stating information is silly
2 questions???
What on screen frame rate are you getting?
Can the wifi card be upgraded with a 2.5 eternity connection?
I think it's important to mention that the "short comings" of the PS5 compared to the price point is, completely, the fault of the scalpers and game developers. If the PS5 wasn't so elusive for so long ( at a resale average of $1500 ), game developers would have prioritized what was known as "next-gen" consoles at that time... Games and their developers, TO THIS DAY , include PS4 compatibility for this reason. The stock of the PS5 was there, by the way, the first day alone was at around 5 million units. So the scalping of the console was what made it so hard for developers to prioritize it because they would lose sales of their games since most people didn't have the PS5 at release.
The pandemic allowed a lot of people who were at home to start the resale business and whatnot; reselling limited fashion items, collectibles, and electronics so it gatekept many gamers from buying what would have been next-gen exclusives. You can see the difference in graphics of next-gen console games. You just can't expect developers to make double the amount of ports for old-gen consoles without sacrificing performance (frame rate, refresh, ray-tracing, etc.). It's like making one game for PS4 (limited capability) and one game for PS5 (max performance). That's a lot of money they would lose. And that's why the PS5 Pro is introducing AI upscaling to old-gen games.
P.S. Native backwards compatibility and scalability are irrelevant; my proof: Demon's Souls. It was a PS5 launch title and *still* looks amazing compared to the games where developers made sure to make their games with as many ports as possible. Third-party-developers also had access to the PS5 dev kit, there are major titles (CoD) that push to the max capability of the PS5. I remember playing Warzone in late 2020 and early 2021; and it made PS4s sound like a jet engine. So it was definitely a money and availability issue that has affected games; even today.
That’s not really how it works. As consoles become more PC like, we’re in the first generation to really have native backwards compatibility. Games, and the engines used to create them, are scalable. If a game can be scaled down to run on a PS4 for example, they’re going to do this. Also, long gone are the days of 1-3 year development cycles. Games regularly take 5 years on average, and many of the biggest games take longer. Most of the games releasing in 2020-2024 most likely started development last gen, before dev kits for the PS5 and Series X even went out. Making it even easier to essentially scale these games up for the next generation. You are playing a current generation game though, as you’re getting bumped up settings, higher resolutions, 60 fps, extras like Ray Tracing, and so on. No one is running Cyberpunk on a 4090 with Psycho path tracing and ultra settings at 120 fps bemoaning how it’s a last gen game because someone with a 2060 can also run the game (at considerably lower settings). Consoles are no different.
Honestly cross gen is why we had so many games hitting closer to 4K at 60 fps at the start of the gen, not in spite of it. If a game can run on a base XBox One, it means current gen gets a ton of bells and whistles, higher res, and 60 fps. We’ve seen what is happening as we move fully into current gen only. Internal resolutions as low as 509p-720p (less on Series S), heavy reliance on upscalers with subpar image quality, and shakey performance. As upscaling tech gets better, and once frame generation fully makes it’s way to consoles it will alleviate some of this load though and things will improve. As far as cross gen games though, that has nothing to do with scalpers. Would it have made the games we got better somehow if they were only released on current gen, despite being able to be run on last gen consoles when scaled down enough? We wouldn’t have got different games or anything. We’d have got exactly what we got as those games started development in 2018-2019. We’re only seeing more current gen only now because we’re closing the dev cycle that started in 2020-2021. Games that started development this generation. If there were no scalpers or shortages we wouldn’t have got different games though.
Enjoyed & learned from this comment & the reply - much appreciated
I think if you already have a ps5 then a tv upgrade should be your purchase. Think the regular ps5 benefits a lot from just this updrade. Just make sure you get that hdmi 2.1 port/ports and make sure its actually 120hz refresh rate. Not a 60hz tv with that upscaled refresh rate motionx feature.
I may try to cop that PS5 Slim on black Friday for my lil sister for Christmas. Holding off on the Pro. Gonna save my money for the successor of the Switch and a new gaming TV
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People shitting on PS5 pro are the same people who bought the PS5 on day one with market prices. I know you regret paying that scalper, if you were just more patient, you could have gotten a PS5 pro at retail. But you would never buy a Pro, you were the same people who never bought the PS4 pro. You guys forget that there are a people who are patient and wait for more games on the new system and get the pro version. I never bought the PS4 and purchased the PS4 pro at retail when it came out. I did the same for the PS5 PRO, and I will do the same for the PS6 PRO, and I know I will see people shitting on PS6 PRO one day.
@@MrLorenzoVids I bought the fat PS3, the PS3 super slim (sliding door disc tray, The oG PS4, special edition Batman PS4, PS4 Pro, Special Edition PS4 Pro (still in box) I got 2 PS5s release date at retail, one from GameStop and one from Sony direct.) Im not getting the PS5 Pro now as the value doesn't really add up, plus I don't have a TV or Monitor to take advantage of the bells and whistles of the PS5 Pro. It's just a slight upgrade. And the PS5 isn't really struggling to load games like it was for PS4 games to PS4 Pro.
@@MrLorenzoVidsno those ppl are the PC Spec Nuts and jealous Xbots.
Question CKid, can you use the same extra SSD storage for your OG PS5 on the PS5pro?
Yes. It is swappable. But from what I’m hearing is that you’ll want to do it before you even power and boot the pro up.
@@michaelwright956 wait is the SSD needed isn’t pro already fast?
@@beasthaven1571 the M.2 ssd needs to be Gen 4. And they are all typically very fast. This is for extra storage and the M.2 specifications are the same between the consoles…
Thank you for discussing the 2.5 port, it seems like NO one is talking about it. I have had 5 gig fiber for years now.
in Europe you are lucky if you get 100k... and 1 Gig Fiber is like 90 Euros per month (and more than 1 Gig is not avaible for a home)
@@LouRaXVirgin do 2Gig in theUK now mate
I got the pro, I’m returning it, in my opinion I don’t see the difference between it and the OG ps5 I’m getting 60 fps stable on most games on my OG PS5 and LG OLED TV but to each his own!
I presume you went into each game and changed the settings to allow the pro to give the higher resolution and frame rates.
@@ronsummerill2496it's set to that as default.
@FrodoUK not every game. I've had to change quite a few things. For example on off the grid, had to switch from FSR to TSR and tweak a few other things and the game looks massively better.
Lies 😂😂😂😂
I want to ask if you only play sport franchises like fc25 and co what kind of monitor do you need
You can’t blame Sony for developers slacking off and not putting out their patch
It’s bo6 crashing, happening to me on rog ally and on my pc; lot’s of black screens and I have to restart pc/ rog ally
I bought tcl Q7 QLED tv . Am I cooked ?
From what I read u really need a TV w/ a 120hz rate to "truly" max out the PS5 og & pro - I'm not a tech guy it's just what I read - what's your TV's refresh rate
@ 120 hz
Hey Ckid,
First time on your channel, hey at 5:50 you are talking about the PS5pro patch on BlackOps 6, and yes it did drop with Season 1, they also promoted it on their website and console announcement at the game opening.
The way certain Pro patches work, the Devs basically will enhance the game and leave just the PS5pro modes (I know other devs are leaving the old modes or re-using them).
-In this case the 120hz, runs with PSSR upto 120hz (and yes it looks alot better than the OG PS5 and is basically locked 120fps now)...
-Turning off the 120hz, it increases the resolution, picture quality and it then unlocks the framerate, up to 120hz also.
These changes were explained by them. And the best way to play is with 120hz off, it runs and looks beautiful.
Which games were playing at the start of the video?
Spider-Man 2
@@CKidMbro I have a question! I have a Sony Bravia 43 inch 120hz VRR would my TV be perfect for the pro!!
@CKid Have you tried chainging your MTU settings? When I got the last gen consoles they both shitty download speeds until I changed the MTU setting to something more compatible to my own network and after that my downloads started flying.
Oh I need more info around this...put me up on game...join the discord and hit me up - discord.gg/K4eTRYapwG
On my base Ps5 I get 800 download and 600 upload. I'm in New Zealand. Also I will add I had problems with it being low at one point on both so I got a hold of sony about it and the said even though the speed reads at that rate, in game it's actually different. Most games won't use more then 1.6mb on upload. Ping is different on the other hand. Depending on how close to a server you are obviously the lower it it the better. There will be benefits to wifi 7 like how many users are on a network at once and network stability, improved latency between networks and reduced power consumption.
The Portal is just a streaming device. Is everyone crazy? The only difference you will see is any Ray tracing For graphical effects outside of resolution. It's streaming an image. A better connection is the only advantage possible.
@@Sticks_of_Truth those people that said the quality is better on the portal we’re lying 🤥 it’s literally the same visuals 🤦🏾♂️
@@johnybozor2765but aren't PS4 games on the pro look much better in the pro compared to the og PS5? Not trying to be confrontational, just stating what I read , I'm gonna grab a new TV & PS5 pro ( haven't for almost 10 years & don't mind "wasting" extra 200$ on the pro due to the fact I'm getting a pile of FU $ from my union & also ALOT of PS4 games will be new to me & I want them graphically to be the best possible thus an advantage of the pro)
what about someone who still has a ps4 slim looking to upgrade?
That's what I want to know and no one will answer it.
If your looking to upgrade, the ps5 pro is the only way to go since the next upgrade coming will be a ps6
What do u think about HDR??
Your ps portal only has 1080p resolution, how can it get better when connect to ps5 pro? It is the same case when you playing ps5 pro on LCD tv, will you get the best graphic out of it?
That's because the pro improves 1080p games, hence the ps4 enhanced setting. It's geared towards 1080p games
5:42 is the cod problem i have the same problems with my ps5 and pc
Sony has always used the most shittiest WIFI cards possible on these PS consoles
who uses wifi
@@bluecalx40 people use WIFI if you didnt know
I have bought a Samsung Odyssey G7 32 inch 4K 144hz gaming monitor ready for my pro is this a good buy?
What do you think of the 30th anniversary ps5. Would you get one
I'm waiting on my collectors bundle but I really hope my Pulse Elite headset doesn't constantly disconnect on it. I just found out no port on the front for it and that sucks. It loses connection more when plugged into the back.
can somebody please tel me if you have ps5 with the ssd instaled in can you transfer the games on ps5 pro so that i can play where i left or do i have to replay it from the begining
You can, just use transfer data function in the settings menu, you dont need PS plus or anything just both consoles connected to the same wifi, and both consoles have to have the same account signed in. You can transfer save game data and user settings. When you're done, just instal M.2 drive to the PRO its gonna do rebuild data and you are ready to go!
One thing I had to do when I hooked up the pro to my sony oled was bump down the sharpness setting. The way PSSR upscales can give you that kind of "fried " look. It fixed it though when I bumped it down. Just some good skuttlebut for eveybody
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Like bro I bought a Pro...but there is not that much info on this device lol. You're farming
The "be honest wich you" "be real with ya'all" meter was a little higher this episode. Almost a dozen hits.
This sounds like hate
He is jealous
Nah just friendly banter. I'm a fan. Great content, keep it up 👍
Hes a xbox user haha @CKidM
Bro did you say you have the 8tb wester digital ssd?
Forgive my ignorance, but as someone who getting back into playing video games ( been out the game for almost 10 years) does this WiFi connection speed/specs debate only matter if you play games online? I dont play games online ( seem to remember i got vaporozed instantly when i would attempt to play fps games online ) & i prefer a good storyline ( campaign mode ) so i shouldn't need to ne concerned w/ tgus wifi speed/ spec debate since i only play video games on campaign mode ? ALL replies are much appreciated
when I play GT7 on 120 FPS for some reason the track looks a bit blurry the game play and replays when I switch to 60 it goes away, I have a QLED 4K tv that is 120 capable, any advise anyone?
Why not just add a cheap 2.5 GB usb 3.0 or USB C ethernet dongle. Those are super cheap on Amazon. Assuming you have the capability to have PS5 hard wired to network. Won't fix WiFi issue though.
Genuinely, if I didn't have an OLED VRR ALLM 120Hz TV, I wouldn't have got a Pro. But I can hands down say the only difference is the gap between higher image quality and performance performance BUT my OG PS5 was more than good enough. In fact If I had seen the PS5 Pro in action at a friends house for example I wouldn't of bought one for myself
@@DRE2XL yep! Exactly what I keep telling these upset bots and PC Spec Nuts.
@@thev3432I have a question I’m getting mine this Wednesday! I have a Sony Bravia 43 inch 120hz VRR it’s a LED would this tv be great for the pro!
Yo ckid has the black ops 6 ps5 pro patch come out yet ? Can you make a video to update us when it comes out please
Appreciate the shoot out! Loving every minute on this monitor! Even coming from a 49" OLED monitor already! my BO6 says it has the Pro version but i don't see any settings for it in BO6. Hopefully we can figure it out on stream tomorrow night!
Yo i appreciate the recommended monitors / tvs near the end, the only reason i dont have a PS5 base or Pro is because i just dont have a 4k monitor or tv, once i get that im in especially for GTA 6
the pro is BEAST so smooth 😊
It veries at different times of the night and day depending on traffic aswell
Regarding network speed, do you know what really works? An ethernet connection. Seriously that’s always been the best way of connecting with these kinds of products… would you use Wi-Fi if you had a NAS, no absolutely not.
Days Gone looks sweet on the Pro! 850 down and 180 up has been the best I’ve seen on mine, wired.
Another? I have ( firgive my ignorance but it seems like alot if y'all are tech dudes- is getting a mini led tv w/ a 120hz refresh rate ( or 144hz on a mini led Hisense) almost as good as an OLED w/ a 120hz refresh rate? Say an oked is a 10/10 is a mini led w/120hz a 9+/10?
I picked up the pro yesterday after finally finding a disk drive at my local walmart. I also upgraded my gaming moniter as well. To be able to take full advantage of the pro. And its 100 percent worth it.
Man that black ops 6 upgrade last night is so crisp on the pro 🔥🔥🔥
What did the update do?
@soccer6946 The 120fps mode is way more crisp visually and even if you turn off the 120hz mode to the quality mode you get 80+fps with even better visuals. You can't go wrong with either mode now tbh.
@ sweet! Thank you bro
@@soccer6946 Fasho bro 🤝🏾
Crisp? You mean not a damn difference.
Sony did upgrade the NIC to a 6E. The upload speed limitation is from their network not the hardware.
Как по шуму консоль трещат ли дросселя как в пс5 ....или только слышно шум вентилятора,,,реальные владельцы отзовитесь
I’m just heading the fan. It’s a little louder than my day one PS5.
Waiting on my BO6 patch too, have all 3 platforms game looks better on my series X than the pro
Mine is the other way around all my games look so much better on my PS5 Pro so I have sold my Series X now.
I changed my mind I just buy the ps5 pro maybe and new tv for ps5 pro I want to experience the 120hz for 2025
Always wait for the PRO. I did the same for the PS4 PRO. Not only you will have more choices in games compare to the first released version of the system, you get the upgrade. Do the same for PS6 PRO.
@@MrLorenzoVidsconfused when’s ps 6 come out? Wouldn’t it be ps6,ps6 slim ps6 pro?
I feel like we also should’ve gotten a pro controller with the pro console and not a regular one that’s just my opinion
I agree but price wise it doesn’t make much sense as the controller itself is $200. The PS5 pro would be a great deal though if that was the case.
@@TimDespairBear11what controller do you guys recommend for someone about to buy a s4?
In my house there is a gaming PC, Series X, PS5, and PS Portal. There is also an older switch that my son doesn't play. My pc has become a gaming emulator system. Thanks to Steam and Epic, my PS5 and Series X will collect dust. There is no justification to have purchased the Pro unless it was the first version I would have owned.
It seems that everyone who has purchased it is trying to justify the mirage of a graphical leap. A mid to top tier pc has been doing what the Pro is doing times 3 for years. By the time the Pro is optimized, the PS6 will be released, maybe
My wrist injury that never healed properly flares up when pc gaming it’s easier on console,
Pc is superior
But since I have a ps4 slim for 8 years it’s time for me to upgrade. Wouldn’t pro be better due to load times if I’m not planning to upgrade for awhile?
I have fiber 300mbs up and down. It runs fine. You have to have your Internet service provider give you fiber with matching upload speeds.
Sold my old ps5 for 300. Offset the pro and I am happy about it
Since you asked for everyone speeds on the PS5Pro, here is mine! Download Speed is 595.1 Mbps and Upload Speed is 19.2 Mbps with a Wifi 7 router and CAT 8 Ethernet Cables from Amazon. I agree with you though Playstation has definitely dropped the ball with there internet capabilities I think they rushed production of this unit and didnt include top of the line Internet Connectivity on purpose simply to build up revenue and put everything that people are requesting to be inside of the Playstation 6 unfortunately. Since launch day i have been reconfiguring bandwidth settings and etc. And still no major change Sighhhh 😅
Sadness ;( will 6 be few years down the line?
@beasthaven1571 If I had to guess more than likely this time next year to stay in competition with other competitors. Don't quote me on it though as no actual release date has been announced as of yet.
PS5 Pro definitely has a better wifi. I've had the base PS5 in my mancave that is 30 feet away from router the past few years and that has been constantly losing connection using wifi every few hours. I stopped playing multiplayer games because of it and stuck with offline.
With PS5 Pro, I haven't lost wifi connection yet since I hooked it up nov 7. Thinking about starting playing online multi games again because of it.
On the og ps5 change network to 2.4 gz only. I had the same problem before I changed it.
@CKid I only see tvs where are the gaming monitors in the description? Nvm I see it
Its not a better portal visuals but connecting to the portal with screen share is better is what i think they mean so that will make it look visually better with less grain on screen and everything
Sold my ps5 disc version for $350. Good enough to justify an upgrade!
With my pro connected hardwire. I download 80gb games in 10-15 min. Anyone getting faster times ?
Never had an issue streaming even on the base 5. My upload speeds have always been like 10% of my down speeds but stream quality was never effected. I just output at 1080p 30fps. But I'm averaging between 750-900 mbps down speeds,granted I strictly use hardwire. Refuse to deal with wifi
Steped up from a Ps4 fat Glacier & 2015 55" Curved Lcd 120hz non HDR Samsung TO Ps5 Pro & LG C4 55" OLED evo. I'm happy af it
That patch for cod 6 was released today the 15th..it was posted on the website
Sony fanboys : pc guys have to buy so many things and they are so expensive.
Same Sony fanboys gotta buy 1000 lg tv to get rhe full effect of extra 10 fps.
Sony Fanboys. Pc are so complicated nobody eants all those settings.
Same sony fanboys calling out pc gamers now that they have 3 different modes an can play with ray tracing 😂😂.
800 something bucks for dew minor upgrades aint it. The PS5 pro is what the ps5 was promised to be but they lied about it 😂
Exactly hypocrites i swear...
I bought a Samsung 120hz 4k 55inch with vrr for only 200 lol tvs r cheap as hell, paid 400 for a gaming monitor 😭
@@swoosh6982u won’t buy a proper oled for near that.
Not a Sony fanboy but I can only play console games, pc will always be superior in my opinion specially building your own.
Very happy with my Pro console, Stellar Blade and FF7 Rebirth both look amazing 😊
@@nickaftermath1074 I definitely like the majority of patched games. All the first party games are off the scale. I need mire though.
The BO6 Pro update is live. It’s in the CoD patch notes.
Singapore 10Gb fiber running eero Max 7.
Getting 200mbps down, 20mbps ups.
Wired and WiFi similar speeds more or less.
Losing my mind on this. Plugging the same wire into a pc gets me 7-8gbps.
Great video as always brother! Man I want to grab one, but literally the only game I play is 2K and madden occasionally. I have a Rog ally X and it plays those pretty good.
WiFi 7 is still in Beta bro.
Very informative video. I take care of my elderly father 24/7. My PS5 is my primary entertainment source. I have $600 in Best Buy credit from credit card rewards. I'm planning to get the PS5 Pro soon, but my TV is a 2016 65 inch Samsung LED. Would the PS5 Pro be no different than the launch PS5 on such an old TV? I am hoping to get an OLED in 2025. Peace!
Early squad. Loving my ps5 pro. It’s very noticeable in the games I play. It’s a luxury item just like a very high end PC. If you got the bank roll with it.
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Great video my guy. You always keep it 💯
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I flipped mine from “Automatic” to 5G only and it jumped to over 300mb/s from 75ish. I hope it stays that way. Shhhh don’t say anything, I don’t want to jinx it.
Wait!? So I have to spend close to $2,000 just to enjoy the full benefits of the Pro?
IDK but I bought two of them. The fam and I are enjoying the hell out the system compared to the OG PS5.
I was getting 780mbs on my launch ps5 via ethernet. On my pro im only hitting 400mbs at most. Not sure if I need to cha ge a setting on the console but definitely feel let down by sony
So on the topic of the PS5 Pro network.
1st I have AT&T Fiber 1G and my internet/router box is Wifi-6 compatible. ...
I'm getting bout the same speeds as what you get ckid but my problem is when I get into a black ops 6 match I'm lagging and the Pro would simply drop the connection.
And also the BO6 menu is stuttering so I'm currently deletee the game and redownload to see if that fixes the issue but overalll 700 bucks is alot of money for this decice not to work properly.
Also I noticed the ethernet port is extremely sensitive to the cord slippin in and out vs the og ps5 and my xbox series x port.
Thinking bout pulling up to Best Buy for a refund.
Update video?
Awesome video your opinions are right on point.
Honestly I think they rushed the system out because I thought it was coming out next year 2025 in November.
I have an lgc2. Destiny 2 which is a beautiful game with immersive landscapes looks and runs spectacular.
I also play nhl 25 at w high level. It runs so smooth!
These are the kind of videos we need just the fact we are getting any negative views of the pro just makes me step back and be like what's so pro about it ? What actually is a mind blower about the pro ? Now I'm even more happy I'm getting better speeds on the og ps5 😂.
Question to anyone: Is the PS5 Pro worth it if you have the PS4 Pro?
I went for a 4 pro to the 5 pro. So I think that’s the path to go. Also then I don’t know about all the issues people had with the OG models of the 4 and 5 😂
@@Van_frederickNice! I was thinking of doing the same thing.
Thank you,
Yes
I pretty much fall into the second camp you're talking about. I am not interested in switching to PC. I want to stay with the console experience (and specifically physical media) but I also want to play at 60fps whenever possible. I care far less about shiny graphics. I don't care if it looks like a freaking PS2 game as long as it runs smooth as hell.
I've had mine for a week and I regret it. I should have used that money towards a gaming pc
Return it bruv! Problem
Solved!!
@@TheDanimal91 exactly y I didn’t buy it over my og ps5 even tho I could’ve got it cheaper if I traded it no thanks I’m good Sony won’t be robbing me 🤣☠️😭😅
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@johnybozor2765 ps5 pro is a great upgrade. You will want one for gta6 lol
Iam going to get a ps5 slim for black friday
My wifi speeds are fine..I get 700 to 800 down and anywhere from 150 to 300 up and I only have gigspeed internet but my modem sits 3 feet away from ps5 pro
Thanks for the Sub.. Keep giving us that good and honest content we look for..👌
If you need the real speed you have to use the internet cable. I have a 1 gig internet speed and I get 970 meg or more sometimes for download speed. Wifi don't have any use when downloading games. Example a 40 gig takes me 3 minutes to download. So maybe it's the wifi you have if you have too much devices paired with the wifi the download speed is gonna be slow.
Do a majority of people have internet service that’s the same up as it is down? I mean I do but I had Comcast most my adult life, bcs it’s all that was here, and they nerf those ups so horribly.
I love my pro. The difference is huge. Love playing spidermam in 120 Hz. Super smooth
Yo, i was dying when he said its like putting 50 dollar tires on a Lamborghini 😂,