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- The USS F-22 Raptor finds its match in the Russian SU-47 Berkut.
See what happens when the American F 22 (Raptor) battles the Russian SU 47 (Berkut) in the open skies as both planes test their limits and dog fighting skills to outgun the other. A glimpse of the future warfare - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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you are missing a video clip at the end saying, "Dear viewer this video is manufactured by Lockheed Martin"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👌
F-22 is far superior to Su-47
to anybody who wants to know what these are
its clips from the documentary "dogfights" in the episode "dogfights of the future" in which it showcases "future" scenarios
the clip at 3:52 is a clip from a different scenario in which an F-35 has to dodge an "archer" missile launched from a Su 35
btw this episode was from 2008 hence why it compared the F-22 to the Su-47
one of the documentary videos of f-22 raptor, several engineers points that raptor is not good for dog fighting coz of its short wings then how does this video be true....Iam not a Russian...
Thrust vectoring.
GOKUL C R wings surface area
@@riptoor2183 The Su 47 is still much more maneuverable
Michael Liu SU47 is in museum.
@@reneegiese6315 right because it was only a prototype/ aerobatic vehicle test for backwards swept wings
2:47 so satisfying I don't know why
no cap
its the barrel roll
@@CertifiedBikestar yes
That SU-47 can legit turn on a dime though...
Yes
So can the raptor
The raptor can turn on a dime too 💀
su-47 is better
Alex Greece Su-47 is way way way better
The f22 is the most advanced aircraft ever made dumbasses, plus the su 47 is not stealth. Also stealth is not a scam because you may be able to see stealth aircraft but those radars can’t target missiles
Soviet Gaming/DecepticonBlackout no its not only one ever made and it got cancelled
Alex Greece true
A f 22 is not mafe for dog fights its made for stealth su 47 is not stealth more for dogfight
The Berkut is really powerful but has never been into air fights. Neither is a military jet yet.
F-22 to.
Same with the raptor
crazy this vidoe brought all the american pilots and russina plane exeperts together
The emotional charged embellishment of this naritive is overwhelming. Sounds like the narrator from the clone wars series
I believe Su-47 is supposed to be more maneuverable, but they got hit with every single missiles fired at them, I find it very strange
Btw Su-47 have no flairs or countermeasures? Lol
Because that speaker were American
With the SU-47 having under-wing hard point pylons, it will not be stealthy.
an f-4e with a highly skilled pilot could beat a rookie with an f-22
speed isnt everything.
Not true.
Actually it depends on the pilot
need i remind you all that we could have one jet that is 10 x better than the f-22 and berkut , but if the pilot doesnt have good experience the jet is useless. The Su-47 is more advanced as far as turns and other great factors of the jet, it can be more better or worse than the f-22 depending on the pilot. statistically the su-47 beats the f-22. this is an american program computerizing a film that favors their aircraft. russia would probably do the same to their aircraft as well. but for those who know about aircrafts would know russia has out done f-22. the pak-fa can beat the f-22. J-20 by japan can destroy an f-22. so lets not under estimate other countries. remember the Vietnam war. america has been focusing and relying only on troop power. not strategic war. please review the war of ww1 and 2. and no i'm not russian i'm american. I love the design russia did of the Su-47 Berkut.
russia can't afford these tho....
+jonathon mattingly Of course they could afford it if they really need it. But Su-47 was developed pure as experimental jet fighter for testing those reversed wings and maneuverability. The tests continues also in nowadays, but now they mainly focus to finish their more advanced jet fighter, PAK FA which should be in service next year.
***** the PAK FA is lethal. With the stats compared to F-22 raptor, the raptor might have to fly away
eQuariuz Feel free to share your opinion.
eQuariuz The engines are just matter of time. It can be operaional also with the current engines which were used in the prototypes and if the new ones will be finished they will be simply replaced. And logicaly, when they don't have engine coverage it can't be fully stealth yet.
Was this all factual? I must be wrong. First, I thought the SU-47 was a technology demonstrator for the forward swept wings. A bit like the SU-37 was a technology demonstrator for vector thrusting. I could be wrong, but the main problem they had with it was the pressure on the forward swept wings. Also a bit of an issue forward swept wings cause the RCS.
Also the SU-47 also has internal weapons bays. Also, AESA radars jam missiles on their own? Didn't know this. I thought the main draw of AESA radars was that they can track many targets, from further out, much faster than passive radars. Also I didn't know the F-22 had the HMD feature that lets you track through the aircraft. I thought this was an F-35 feature only for now.
old comments but whatever, the show where this is ripped from is from the early 2000s, when people though this thing was supposed to go into service. Considering this is the history channel they thought they had to dramatize alot of this stuff
@@hertzwave8001 I just re-watched this. It's so funny.
"quickly, the American formulates a plan, one that harkens back to the golden age of dog fighting..."
"he looks through the floor of the F-22 with his HMD, and locks on to the Sukhoi with an off bore-sight missile"... Wtf? XD
I also noticed how all the missiles flying above mach 2, aiming for the cockpits at 2:30 "and a few simple manoeuvres break lock". What? That's not how it works, did this history channel do their research playing Ace Combat on the Playstation? That was point blank range, an aircraft can't move, let alone move out of the way fast enough to break lock from there.
@@DDuMas Unless they are late 60's AIM9's it would make more sense that a few simple maneuvers break lock, although the F-22 has it's radar signature bs and thrust vectory, all of which the SU47 does not, ppl in the comments are just russian fanboys who are racist assholes who like what is happening in ukraine.
@@DDuMas ""he looks through the floor of the F-22 with his HMD, and locks on to the Sukhoi with an off bore-sight missile".doesn't sound all that weird, assuming the hmd works the raptors hmd works the same way as Russian hmd's (I assume they do) the missile seeker should follow the head which, the raptor pilot wouldn't be able to see the su-47 but he could guess it's general position and lock it.
@@PadparadZha27 The context is the paragraph before that. I'll edit it, so it makes more sense:
"quickly, the American formulates a plan, one that harkens back to the golden age of dog fighting... He looks through the floor of the F-22 with his HMD, and locks on to the Sukhoi with an off bore-sight missile"... Wtf? XD
"One that harkens back to the golden age of dog fighting".
I feel like the Berkut would destroy the f 22 on a one on one battle, if it can find it that is. but man does the f 22 look good. It definitely takes the futuristic look factor
Max Vorobey the berkut has lots of maneuverability but it causes it to lack speed. The berkut would have a hard time detecting the f-22 as well.
the f 22 is very maneuverable with thrust vectoring and its stealth capabilities make it hard to detect i still don't think the berkut could win if it detected it now the su 37 terminator maybe...
Steve A Four years later, and i actually agree with you now
You can tell they don't know too much about the military, when he says Starbird engine, Starbird is a Naval term Naval "right side." In Basic Training, our front quarterdeck walls were marked (painted) with Starbird on the right head (bathroom) and Port on the left head.
I'm a year late on this, but "STARBIRD"? really? Surely you mean Starboard
@@zephyr788 100% was about to state the same thing.
Never heard of "starbird" before as a reference to starboard.
Y’all act like the su 47 would do better than this video says it would. If it was so good why was it cancelled?
FOR DESIGN: SU-47 BERKUT
FOR PERFORMANCE: F22-RAPTOR.
F-22 is a 4.5 generation plane, SU-47 is a 5th generation plane.
@@DirtRoadChillin I smell Russian propaganda
This used to be a longer video, consisting of a few different scenarios where these two foes would be interacting.
Did you find it? I am looking for it too
@@causa04 it's a show called dogfights. It was a special episode, one of the scenarios, should be the one right after this one, is when they go into space to fight in low earth orbit with scramjets.
Season 2 episode 18 of dogfights
i never knew that the archer missile could tell between flares and the aircraft
They never meet before, 😂😂 just CGI From ur computer, and very Iike Sukhoi !!
Honestly I think the Su-47 Berkut would win it seems like it would be more agile and possibly containing better missiles than what the Russian missiles are now
If Russia uses Brahmos missile then they will win the battle easily
@@RohitRaj-ti4jh no
No
Honestly stop being stupid just bc you hate how we are a "free" country and your country is not.
Have you guys seen the video of a guy looking through the heads-up display on the f-35? I think they're bringing that over to the raptor also.
yeahh that X smoke on the end is vrilly realistic.
The raptor would have lock on the Berkut well before visual range. They’d be painted before they ever picked the f22 up
That's what im sayin
This Full episode is awesome. . All videos gone
Russians fan hate this
Deadly Lion yeah I Really do I hate this the Russians have better aircraft
@@sovetskyskaiyastrigon1750 I think you guys are just mad that your country doesn't have proper radar signature bs aircraft.
Yo dude can you still watch the dogfights of the future 2008 film?
There is no way a F-22 could defeat a SU-37 OR a SU-47 in a close-range dogfight. Its too big to outmaneuver those smaller planes.
But american bias, trying to make USA look better than russia. Classic america. Trying to be the big boys.
Legions Typhoon dumbest shit ige ever heard. USA is far more better then Russia anyday. They just cancelled their su-57 yesterday lmao. Russia can't keep up. Typical Russian fan boys 😂😂
Legions Typhoon so damn true
Unfortunately close range dogfights have become irrelevant and soon fighter planes will be obsolete alltogether. It's a shame, but technology doesn't give a fuck.
They like to daydream or get druged to escape real
cvSAVdsbv looks like your the only one with a brain here they did bvr with raphael n typhoon they got killed in all bvr scenario and they never could lock up or find the f22 so they decided to wvr than the european had luck
Anyone found the whole video? This is a cool video but I can't find it
just imagine berkut with raprors engines lol
Having canards it's already unstable, should have very fast nozzle to vectorize a fraction of second. Probably retracting canards at 500+km/h would make it to take "confidently" angle of attack.
Just imagine if the Berkut could defeat the undefeated F 15 with any engine..... nevermind a Raptor. 🤣
Just goigus
"su 47 would win" hardcore russian fanboys...We dont even know the true capabilities of both aircraft just saying, don get butthurt.
Abdiel curry yes it would win
Abdiel curry it depends on the pilot but in statistics the SU-47 is better then the Raptor
It just depends on the pilot
Berkut is in a Museum
Make a f22 vs su 57
The use of the SU-47 Berkut rather than the SU-57 Felon shows how dated this video is.
It is from a show called "Dogfights of the future" that released in 2008, sadly it is impossible to watch now but this is one of the dogfights in the show that this guy uploaded.
You want a plan with manuver and speed, su 47 sukhoi is a choice but wait until there a strong and light enough material that can handle the 10+ G force in extreme manuver
what's the point comparing the f22 to the su 47 which is an experimental plane which has only 1 prototype as far as I know would be interesting to compare it to the Northrop YF 23 as it was the competitor of the f22
well the manuverbility of the F-22 is limited by a safeguard during peacetime. in an actual dogfight these limitations would be disabled. not to mention the SU-47 isn't even in production. The Su-47 is not a stealth aircraft, it would not dectect the F-22's before it was too late. say what you like, but you won't see the instrument of your death in a SU-47. The F-15C is a great aircraft, if 2 or 3 F-22's can destroy 8 F-15 without a single lose, then the rest of the world has no chnace.
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stealth is myth depend on how you see it.....stealth means they see you before you see them not invicible dumbass
hey SU-47 was stealth, just not in the way the F-22 and F-35 are. those 2 rely on angular stealth while the SU-47 relies on the older form of stealth, RAM stealth. This is the same form of stealth the B-2 and the F-117 rely on. RAM (Radar Absorbing Material)
F-22 is stealth based on X-band radar but not so stealth for L-band, Su-57 has both X-band and L-band radar on board. Su-57 can find F-22 at any distance at anytime and can approach it as close as possible to take a good shot without the F-22 noticing its presence since F-22 doesn't have L-band radar on board + Su-57 frontal profile is stealth against X-band radar of F-22
the su 47 berkut is a manoverable plane but not better then f 22 raptor
Both are side air intake thick lifting body configurations unlike the SU-27 series of fighter aircraft which use much flatter and less curvy lifting fuselages. Although the SU-47 definitely wins this dogfight due to its canard forward swept wing configuration and larger leading edge root extensions providing more lift over the more standard configuration of the F-22A. Although if reliability was concerned, this would definitely go to the F-22, since swept back cropped deltas have much better durability than the much more flimsy forward swept wings. And of course bvr also goes to the F-22.
mainly f22 doesn't have hmd
But I love the video.
The term Starbird is a Naval term for right. USAF personnel wouldn't know what the hell it is. The Vulcan Canon is in the Right wing group. In Maine Corps boot camp, our head(s) were labeled port (for left) and Starbird (for right). We never actually used those terms, but they were burned into our brains like the knowledge we were required to reproduce for the exam at the middle of the three-month training.
I'm pretty sure you mean 'starboard'.
american propaganda
The f22 is a stealth fighter so the f22 probably would win not to mention the supersonic ability with no afterburner, if the f22 can hide from radar, the su47's won't know they are there until a missle comes and blasts their plane to bits.
Essentially a f-22 would beat a su-47 because even thou the su 47 will most likely beat an f-22 in a dogfight to to its maneuverability, the f22 is more stealthy and built on the principle of see, first attack first, f-22 will take out the su-47 before it even detects it’s there.
always winner is american - dream picture
Hahahah American always win in Hollywood
If the su 47 was this good it wouldn’t have been cancelled.
The only SU47 existing is in a museum.
Does he not realize they're making the su57 instead lol?
this episode is from ~2008, that's why
@@dilet1114 it says this video was uploaded in 2016
Now i see why 😂😂😂
They did training bvr with the euro typhoon the typhoon got destroyed witjout ever seing a raptor
It would maybe happen like this
bullshit story line, hypothesis like if my aunt were to be my uncle... :))
Fun fact the su 47 is just a prototype
Everyone know that bruh, its basics fact
Su47 is a great monover jet.. Even raptor cant match it..
berkut easy way win no comparation
The SU-47 couldn’t even make it out of prototype stage how in the hell could it fight an F-22? Lmao
Nah it won’t lmao, maybe I’m dogfight but by the time it detects the f-22 it will be too late
Oh... fantasy dogfight.
f22 is better on 1on1 dog fight with a close range battle agains su 47 using long range radar
that's what she said..😅😅😅😅
the su 47 will destroy f22's
+John Mead that's true
Nope
@@kikopalomo-casem8627 yes !!!
@@jeromedumaquion1679 nope
Pretty hard to do that with JUST ONE SU-47 LOL
nossa nunca que su 47 vai perder para f 22 nao tem uma manobra como su 47 e mais caça melhor a qualidade do vou agora a longa distancia pode ser que f22 tenha chance sim porque e furtivo
su 47 stronger f22 or weaker ????
tôi yêu bầu trời xanh Su-47 is way stronger
Su 47 is so bad it got scraped
ChickenBobx10 K ahahah why are you lying it was an experimental jet plus its better in statistics then the f22
SovetskySkaiya /Strigon1 It is so strong, it’s in a Museum.
Is not an american show without seen some enemy shotted down in ways that.......even alias can't do !!!
f22 is the best in US movies
F-22 All day!
Su number one
F - 16 still the best.
I know this is a 5 year old video but fuck it, also this isn't propaganda, they're just idiots.
SU-47 has no thrust vectoring, the F-22 does.
You can't "Jam" missiles with radars.
Raptors would fire first due to their smaller Radar Cross Section. (not necessarily meaning they'd be able to win before the enemy detects them)
I don't know for sure but i'd say the planes both have similar maneuverability, If not the Sukhoi has slightly better because of their wing shape.
Archer missiles are heat seekers, meaning they follow heat, they cant tell shit about what they're following, they only follow the largest heat source
Same with the Aim-9.
Missiles aren't projected on the visor, thats not how missile detection works.
You cant track a plane under you or on top of you, you use your eyes at that range.
If a pilot risks blacking out while in a compromised state then they wont pull a maneuver that makes them black out unless absolutely necessary.
When you black out, or G-lock, you don't come out of it in a matter of seconds.
You cant launch a missile at any angle and expect it to reasonably track let alone hit, ESPECIALLY with a heat seeker.
You dont "establish contact" after a dogfight, you'd be constantly talking with the squadron and working together.
As soon as you hear the narrator speaking in english. You know which one gonna win.
Narrator :"Waite a second! The Su-47 fired a missile at the F-22. Is getting close... too bad it missed. What an other one. It missed again. And the F-22 pilot fired a single shot with his smith & wesson in his cockpit. Hit the Su-47 pilot right between the eyes. The F-22 win. God bless America."
That's how it is in the west technology has nothing to do with it LOL
How can the 47 fired without target lock if the f22 is stealthy too exciting but false
How come the su-47 exploded but the f-22 just lost the tail stabilizer
@@IshijimaKairo Good question lmfao
lol
I feel like this video is bias
Ni en los sueños mojados de eeuu
SU-47 was cancelled and does not exist as a functional fighter. Plus, the Raptor is still superior even when compared with the SU-57. Plus, this video is faked ridiculously. Plus, it's not objective. Plus, it has an enormous amount of dislikes. Raptor beats all, people!
and the Russian airforce has..... 1 Berkut LMAO
Dat Vuong It wasn’t intended for production lol
There is only one Berkut, since a long time in a museum.
@@raptor2792 i know, thats why this video is ridiculous. Why not make a video about the F-22 Vs the Tie fighter or X-Wing? By making this video, he is implying that the Berkut is a great plane capable of beating the F22, when in fact it's not seeing as it couldnt even make it to a deployable production stage
Dat Vuong The Berkut is probably an exceptional plane like a lot of Russian planes but it was only an experiment to test the wings with no real plans of production. He should compare the F-22 to a SU-57 or SU-35
The f-22 is a legend it can destroy a su-57
Also applies vice versa.
@@Drobbik Depends on the situation, close range dogfighting? Depends. Long range, F22 wins easily.
This is most inaccurate, pro us documentary i had everseen
american show its obvious that they will make th americans win
Fake judgement
The f22 is a 5th gen fighter. Not the su47.
Bruh
Su 47 best hahahah F22=Su 35
SU 47 is in Museum.
Get off of an american company called "TH-cam" idiot
The Air Force doesn't use the term "Starbird," Which is a Navy term for right.
Jjaajjaa sí claro!! Los sukoi harían pedazos esos f 22 😂😂
Ukraine proves otherwise Russian fantard
SU-47 got cancelled for a reason idiot
I got my money on Berkut!
So you lost it
berkut win
RaptorX78 _Kross Da the 'Golden Eagle' (Berkut) if fully developed would give any jet a real battle. It's a shame Russia can't afford to do it.
Ha ha ha... Maneuverability of your planes is so poor, that this video is good fairy tale....
...........pretty sure that vulcan doesn't have 480 rounds of ammo
Propaganda hahahaha.
Starbird is a naval term...a single Vulcan Canon is mounted in the Starbird wing...the F-22 is an Air Force bird.
су 47 беркут круче манёвренее и в ближнем бою у него больше шансов
Он очень хрупкий. Это эксперемент модель.
Алексей Хороший чтобы сбить нужно ещё попасть
Анна Слабнова он проигрывает в маневренности су 30
Алексей Хороший ну лады пусть каждый останется при своём мнении
Su 57 is the best doggighter in the world
But Su 47 is a way to far ahead.
Its can fly so maneurable even in subsonic flight without the use of thrust vectoring(actually its doesnt have one)
This is because of the wings the only disadvantage is the tail wont be that reliable as if the aerodynamics will all go there.
lets get it on.. F22 raptors vs all russian best fighters. hehe
a funny thing every jet fightet is inspired from the beginning by naziplanes lol
Absolutely biased.
Cough bullshit cough
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Cute crap