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Hey guys thank you for your patience it took a long time to set up this fight we needed to be in a certain mood and it takes a long time to edit, but here it is, the Boss fight of the decade. Just keep in mind both of these aircraft are very very classified and everything you see here is just modeled after publicly available information so this by no means represents the true capabilities of these aircraft its really just for fun. I hope you guys enjoyed and thank you for watching, and thank you for supporting the channel much love. (big thank you to longshot for helping with this video)
Make a video where you are in a su57 versing f22
Ayooooo thanks for making this for us!!!
@@satyagiri331 exactly. I'm waiting for it too
pls make a video, where you're in a Su-57 yourself fighting the Raptor
could be good to make video where you're in Su-57 vs F-22, and omg I just noticed that there're 2 other Nikita Zykovs also supporting my thoughts lol. They're not my accounts
Growling Sidewinder: "He's doing his thrust vectoring bullshit on me."
Su-57 Pilot: "He's doing his radar signature bullshit on me."
Lmao
Underrated comment! 😂
Do some of that pilot shit!
US #1 !
@@zandarrthegreat6790 scamdar begone ;)
"He's doing his thrust vectoring bullshit on me" lmaoooo
Lol
I laughed when he said that
That and, “oh no!” Or “please hit him”.
you gotta admit though thrust vectoring is some black magic bullshit
@@johnconner4695 me too
I was watching this on my phone and my wife approached me and asked what I’m watching and to told her I was watching dogfighting and she was horrified. Turns out she had never heard of aerial combat referred to as “dogfighting” lol
which is the more popular meaning of the word I would imagine.
lulz
Wait until she learns how we attached wings and thrusters to the dogs!!
@@robe4314 🤣
You need to tell her that's how hotdogs are made.
I love how he's always just chill and relaxed in his videos. It's really nice when I'm up at 2 am chilling and watching dogfights.
True
Yeah
bro fr
Same
definitely better than a screaming fortnight kid
7:00 gets ripped in half by guns
GS: “Oh no”
Bitchcin Betty: “hydraulic failure”
Explodes.
Couldn't have made that more comedic
yup that's going in the highlights reel, hahaha
if u wanna save time just do 6:50 thank me later
oh no oh no oh no no no no noooo
He is as calm as Taureor when he forgot about a font in hoi4 and is being invaded - "Oh no. Well deal with that later." - hed say
What girls think boys want: Attention
What the boys really wanted: Su-57 Felon vs F-22 Raptor by GS.
Hehehe
Tbf the girls wanted this too
@@lunar_angel3482 bro just stfu
@@theepicjs5541 calm down bro lol
@@theepicjs5541 u mad girls don't want you lol
Biggest flaw I have noticed is you tend to never use your guns, you had a couple really good gun shots lined up and never capitalized on them, especially in the first and second rounds, it does not seem to be a flaw your opponents possess.
Very much agree
Even though the su57 has a higher caliber than the f22 the f22 has a better firerate and even small damage will cripple the opponents ability to effectively dogfight
Yep, his opponent switched seamlessly and didn't hesitate to buzz at him while missiles were still flying!
There's also a LOT of flat-turning and very little use of the vertical.
@@Ambaryerno because of the loss of energy im not sure but i think the su has stronger engines so it wouldnt loose as much speed
That, and if the СУ used it's gimbal more it might have been different
for a fair comparison, you gotta swap planes and see if it's the plane or a pilot skill issue... I personally think that he launches his missiles too early and does not maneuver enough. SU57 is fractionally more agile (on the paper anyway) and should be able to get behind F22 if it tries hard enough :) GG
You should watch an airshow a su57 flies to confirm whether the maneuverability it's advertising is just on paper or real
@@developersl well did the f22 ever showed his capabilities? Its just paper there too 🤷
@@developersl you shouldn’t use air shows to judge the capabilities of an aircraft
All of the stealth aircraft in DCS are just guesses/approximates of the real thing because all the 5th Gen craft are highly classified and militaries actively hide their specific capabilities.
but lets not forget ladies f22 is old tech ....old ruskie just catching up
GS: "Why is he so aggressive?"
Longshot: "It's called WINNING!"
"Some of the best flying Ive seen yet. Right up to the point where he got kill."
@@ErokCherokee Easy there Goose. ;)
@@ErokCherokee Jester?
“He’s gonna try his thrust vectoring bullshit on me” XD pure gold
Timestamp?
Lol yes😂
Good thing F-22 has thrust vectoring as well ;)
@@Blue_Pumpkin 3:00
yeah, Sukhoi pilot probably said the same :D
@@Anarchy_420 3d > 2d tho
It's crazy how these 2 planes can basically sit in one spot floating as they turn.
6:50 I like how GS just said Oh No... And just Dies Lol
so, to summarize a typical stealth vs stealth plane engagement - knife fight in a phone booth
LMAO More like a knife fight in the air while riding flying phone booths.. 😂😂😂
@@felicidadnalitan1786 except the phone booths are incredibly maneuverable, can go at supersonic speeds and the knives are explosive
@@fakeshrew indeed.. 😆😆😆
More like a Graceful falling competition if you ask me...
The SU-57 isn't a true 5th generation stealth fighter jet. It's a 4.5 generation platform at best.
There were so many times when i was like “YOU GOT A GUN FOR A REASON USE IT”
Oh like the first round. I swear everything lined up perfectly and he didn't even switch to the gun
Not to mention guns have one key advantage over missiles: bullets can't bite off on countermeasures or the environment. They just fly and hit whatever they hit.
If Ate had been flying the F22 would have won with a gun kill on the first turn every single time.
Did y’all not here him 5 seconds before the first round say they were testing the fox 2s?
@@chanceburk4852 that was the first round. he literally never uses his guns at all. easily couldve been 5-0
Gs: "Ohh"
>Hydraulics Failure
Gs: "oh no"
Lmao 🤣
These maneuvers are insane. It's like I'm watching Battlestar Galactica.
Honey wake up. Sidewinder uploaded the video.
lold
Dead😂💀
in your anger you killed her
@@handsomechocolatebar276 NOOOOoooo
THE video honey, THE video. It's different this time. See, because the planes are...
How do you stay so calm? I’m white knuckled pulling a donut outta my chair.
you do anything enough times and you will stay chill during it, this one had my hands sweating tho not gonna lie.
@@wolfgangjr74 Longshot flew the best early in the fight. Really used that SU skillfully. The Growster got clobbered and had to dig deep to win victory in the 2021 Boss Fight.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Tell that to any real racing driver or boxer =)
SU-57 is so stealth that no one will ever see any in action.
OOF
lets pretend they didnt deploy them on syria
@@GIANNHSPEIRAIAS according to who?
@@doobas2171 don't you know who that is? That's Satanic Biscuit, the most trustworthy guy there is.
@@GIANNHSPEIRAIAS You mean all three of them? At once?
I love it. Just amazing how they move in the air like they are being held aloft by invisible hands as they move through the air like that. It is great that there can even be doubt over weather or not you hit some one or not makes it more realistic as well. Very fun, thank you.
In Mother Russia, you don't eject from plane. Plane ejects you from life.
I would take that over radiation poisoning any day. Either way, Putin will see to it you're not surviving this.
In zee Merika, jokes aren't being made. Jokes are being repeated
Damn crew chief forgot to pull the pins before takeoff.
I learned the same thing when I asked in other vids that why ТУ-160 BlackJack did not go thru de-ice process before takeoff...because ice deplanes itself. LoL
You come home victorious, or you don't come home at all.
This is the moment everyone’s been waiting for 5 months to watch
Turning TV on for this one
Or maybe 3 decades?
Putin is here.
i'am waiting su 57 vs f 35 , , , , , , , , , , , ,
F22 can win, you have to choose a weak pilot for the Su 57...
Gratulations for the patriotic hero....
That Su-57 maneuvering is unreal. :-D
"Oh no" -Growling Sidewinder before becoming a metal pancake. 6:47
3:03 "He's trying to do his thrust vectoring bullshit on me" lol.
" OMG it's happening, it's f******* happening " 😂
"Everyone stay calm."
@@chancetempleton3829 " wait wait what's going on? "
" Stay f****** calm "
So happy today 😁
@@Peterax788 LOL...Classic.
@@chancetempleton3829 :)😄
Oddly enough this brings a smallsword duel to mind for me. Lightning fast but also very elegant, everyone is deadly at the point but only the point and so you need some gap to engage, so they step into the opponent and bind up until somebody makes a tiny split second mistake and the correct angle, at just right distance for a poke but not so far one can evade or parry it opens up, and its instant GG.
3:01 What you came here for after Top Gun 2
lmao yes and it looked kinda like he did it when they first met too. I was not expecting that when I came here.
"Pilots became reliant on their missiles and lost some of their dogfighting skills"
The leitmotiv of recent air combat history
That's because dog fighting doesn't make much sense the guns rarely used in combat it has its uses it's a ground support weapon
im pretty sure if GS used his guns off the start a bit more he woulda won all 5 rounds, the rounds he lost he had good gun angles to use
@@sniperh2o325 I was thinking the same thing it's why I'm prowling comments to see if anyone else noticed.
Don't be afraid of your guns, especially if the situation demands it.
Man please do a video where you’re in a Su-57 vs someone in F-22
agreed. I'm totally waiting for it
Lmao 3 users with the same name lmaooooo
@@nikitazykov1450 did you just...
Yeap would like to see GS switch planes, just to see is it the plane or pilot thats better.
@@JohnDoe-ho7pd agreed, I think the next video compilation should be them switching planes. Great idea.
The F-22 is almost like a Berzerker plane, it always looks like it's out of control when it's not.
I just started watching these videos. I’ve learned a lot, and they are very well done. Great sound!
I get the impression that super maneuverability 1V1 has become falling leaf 1 circle battles, but tactics such as the one used in the 2nd round, that have been around since WWII are still valid and applicable. Awesome!
It was also used in WW1 by the Red Baron as well!
@@thenamelessking9005
Flat spin?
have you ever seen falcons fight? That's how it goes, Look it up. Its so cool
360° no scope - new tactics.
Lol, necro comment, but I can't pass it up. Buzz Lightyear - "We're not flying! We're falling, with style."
I *was* having a mediocre morning, but now I'm having a great morning
Absolutely same lol
"Thrust vectoring bullshit" lol that cracked me up.
I have always wondered what an F-22 could do in the hands of a competent pilot
guess we'll never know
8:45
Now, if you look closely, you can see two wild _Stealthus Fighterus_ performing an intricate mating dance. During the dance, if one loses trust in the other, they will attack the other, and move on in search of a different mate.
😂😂💀💀
yes, officer, this comment right here
seriously though that is genius
HAHA! I definitely read this in that Australian/English accent of the guy from National Geographic Docs and whatnot.. lmao
🤣😹😂😅.
Sir David Attenborough presented himself when I read this
4:20 Su-57: If I'm down...I'm taking my pilot with me..
They forgot to pull the pin on preflight check, lol
Russian thing bro
We fly together, we die together
@@mr.singhai9987 surely. Except soviets (and later russians) having best ejection seats for quite some time in history...
Su-57 pilot: (curses in russian)
Lol I love how at 10:55 the port weapons bay opens up but it fires a sidewinder out of the starboard side.
"I can turn this fight around, don't worry"
Me as a Su 57 supporter:
*worrying intensifies*
Exam in half an hour:
"F-22 Raptor vs Su-57 Felon Dogfight":
Me:The exam can wait, I've been waiting for this moment for a year .
Ladies and gentleman, the moment we've all been waiting for had arrived
And it’s still not resolved. 3-2 is hardly telling.
@@peterw3544 Both planes are roughly equal at dogfight, that's telling enough. That was kind of GS not to start with BVR.
Yup
@@TonymanCS oh man that’s gonna be quick
@@TonymanCS No. They're not. That's typical American wishful thinking.
Bro that “oh no” when you looked back and saw fire and then not even a sec later you hit the ground got my ass 🤣🤣🤣
9:00 that SU pilot was doing the leaf fall and pointed his noseup at the perfect time
GS: "Oh my god, why he's so aggressive?"
Last Jeff vs Raptor round rings any bell
“Thrust vectoring bullshit” I love this channel 😂
(Edit: thrust)
Lmao
Have the Russians suddenly installed an engine that doesn't blow up?
@@panan7777 Not like F22 doesn't need maintenance for every hour spent on fly
@@panan7777 doubt it
Excellent video, love the TacView summaries. Nice flying!
7:10 I feel like this is a seriously underrated shot. The accurate gunnery, and proximity to the ground makes it such a screamer. But then again, you'd expect no less from Longshot. Great content as always GS.
Longshot nearly hit the ground himself there
he flew under him after blowing the engine
Crazy shot
In all the DCS dogfight I have never seen a more impressive kill.
@@xchalibur77 Im not seeing whats special about it can u explain it
med school can wait, this I've got to watch
Same !
Boring Geography can wait
I read your surname as “userman”
Med school can definitely wait.....cause I'm too dumb to be in med school😁
Yeah same here
Man! It is awesome how QUICKLY those planes can force you into its killing zone.
Cool combat!
I love watching you dog fighting, it's weirdly super relaxing and chilled out.
When I try this mad chilled out dog fighting, I just spend 2 minutes trying to get away from an Su-33 in my F-14 before I get shot down. I suck! If I don't get shot down, I rip my own wings off trying to move too suddenly.
First 3 rounds you had a shooting solution with guns before the fox-2’s. Lmao
And 5
so, what does fox 2 refer to? or the fox nomenclature in general
@@michaelwerkov3438 Different types of missles. Fox1: semi active radar guided (the plane's radar guides the missle. If the plane loses lock, the missle becomes unguided), Fox2: infrared guided (so it homes in on the infrared signature of the engine), Fox3: active radar guided (the plane guides the missle, but if the plane loses its lock and the missile is close enough to the target, its internal radar will take over guidance)
@@michaelwerkov3438 NATO brevity codes. Short for Foxtrot as in "Fire" Fox 1 refers to semi-active radar guided missiles like AIM-7s. Fox 2 refers heat seekers such as the AIM-9 family. Fox 3 is for active radar guided missiles such as AIM-120 AMRAAMs.
If he could reliably hit the side of a barn with guns I could see the point of shooting...
*"Our battle will be legendary"*
Finally, a worthy opponent
I liked the chill "Oh no" right before you hit the ground :D Bit of a comedic releaf :D
these fights are so crazy to try to think of what i would do next. they just kinda happen and are amazing the way they are.
4:15
Russian pilot: *yep that’s me, your probably wondering how I got myself in this situation*
Lmfao
F
Queue “Baba O’reilly” by The Who
Sorry bro but it’s “you’re”
“Directed by Robert D wiede.”
u need to try the 57, n him raptor for 5 rounds
Yep. Whatever he flies usually wins, making is kinda biased. Especially because he's mostly flying American planes. Kinda disappointing
@@julian5857 flying the best jets = biased
We want to see that! Seems like SU57 pilot doesn't know hes in SU57😁
Yup
@@AhrarKhannetblogger su57 would've won 3 round but he had no energy when gs Syrian lead turned him.
Ok. I've watched this one a couple times already, so I'm wondering how i never noticed how totally Longshot owned GS. Flat spin no scope kills, one turn gun kills, etc..All great, but that kill at 7:09 in the vid, crushes 'em all. Combined. Love the vids GS. Longshot you the man with that kill! 😍
That shot was alien
As Rooster says “It’s not the plane, it’s the pilot.” Doesn’t matter the aircraft, it comes down to how much experience the pilot has
HOOOOOOLY JEEEEESUS THE MOMENT HAS COME
Everybody stay calm!
@@SuperiorAutocraft ok! But uhh.. what's happening actually
The hand of Stalin came down and held that pilot in the first round for the disappointment he brought to the Motherland.
12:16 But Stalin can be merciful and has granted the power of Stalinium to protect the motherland's pilot against capitalist sidewinder.
When the canopy ejected without him and when he was pointed with the arrow,seeing him just sitting there to his death,and that DING sound.!!! I don't know why it's so funny.! Hahaha
I remember seeing the F22 demos at the air shows I went to ad a kid here at Tyndall AFB and I can still remember how completely in awe I was at it’s maneuverability.. It could do things I’d NEVER seen another aircraft do including the other “modern” jet fighters they would demo for us. The low alt flat spins all the way to the deck before recovering and pulling into the vertical and then accelerating out of sight, just some of the craziest shit you could think of an aircraft being capable of doing.. I miss those air shows man. Tyndall took a direct hit by hurricane Michael as did the rest of Panama City where I live back in 2018 and I keep hearing that if they don’t get a squadron of F 35s then the base and the rebuild effort is gunna be abandoned.. Bums me out to think about that like REALLY bums me out.
its comin back up, I see it on AMS for F15 crew chiefs.
My dad was stationed there for 6 years as a kid and I saw many of those air shows! And was in one once! They did an escort of a c-17 globemaster and 4 f-16s and I was in the globemaster with some other kid/parent combos.
I was born there in 1994 ! got to sit the cockpits of the f-117 ! coolest 15 years of my life.
I live in Tallahassee and over the course of the last two weeks there has been significant activity with Raptors paired up flying over the city at least once a day so I assume Tyndall must be back up and running.
Though this was a mod , it proves that pilot skill matters the most when 2 equally capable machines take on with each other
Well no shit, when plane technology isn't large enough to completely curbstomp the other then it's up to skill and luck
I was expecting the much newer plane to do well but it does actually make sense. Either way awesome video
3:04 He's doing his thrust vectiring bullshit on me" that shit was funny af
4:19 hahahah my favorite part. Thanks for pointing out the pilot, I was looking too!
7:57 waiting for the guns kill and GS says: “lock, fox2......and it just missed him”
big brain moment
Damn they even model in ejection seat failure, such dedication
there are ejection failure in the game but maybe the pilot blacked out on mid ejection? In the game to eject you need to press ctrl e 3x. Tho in game I only had rare moments where ejections didn't work.
@@vexingrabbit1824 Actually had an ejection malfunction where the canopy didn't go off and I think the seat killed me because it just went straight to black and made the most sickening noise lol, then nothing but blue skies.
My goodness. This channel is AMAZING!
4:00 f-22: “Yo buddy, still alive?”
The way the F-22 and the Su-57 effortlessly move and seemingly float through the air, is absolutely INSANE! It's like they defy physics... Even in real world..
Advanced thrust vectoring
That's because they do. Incapable of performing to it's maximum due to Humans not being able to happen all those G's for that long.
Then we must wait for lighter and more powerful engines of su57 in 2025 . It means it will reduce 2x weight and increase in power reduce jet heat and radar signature from behind . It will reduce take off time and increase turing rate and angle of attack . That would be epic to watch.
@@LionKing-eu3jc , our production figures can only make a couple of dozen of these aircraft in a decade
"The f22 fanbois are gonna be pissed"
Me, an f22 fanboi*
U DON'T SAY
average f22 enthusiast🤮 vs average su57 enjoyer😎
@@julisity6640 stfu😂😂😂
Me who likes both aircraft and just wants plane to go boom:
I don't really care on which of these two awesome and high tech fighter jets are better. I both like the Raptor and the Pak-Fa. Both of them each has their own strengths and weaknessess. It's all down to pilot skill and knowledge of the aircraft's capabilities.
@@timmyhers9253 agreed
I love the detail of the missile door opening as you fired
"Hydraulics failure"
"Oh no"
3:02
Longshot: look at my thrust vectoring
GS: 👁👄👁
These 2 aircraft are ridiculously maneuverable. Holy cow.
Holy dog
Dog fight it is
"he's trying to do his thrust vectoring bullshit on me" got me good
That intro was epic
I felt like I was watching a championship game it was on the edge of my seat this was awesome
I love how the first fight just turned into them both flatspinning in the air trying to get a shot off
First video I’ve seen from this channel and I’m lovin’ it! I did all the algorithm things.
That was a pretty chill reaction to having your wing shot off at low altitude: oh, no...😁😁
10:58 It's funny how f-22 opens left missle port and fires from the right (closed port) xD
When it fires it opens both
😂😂😂
"Theatricality and deception, powerful agents to the uninitiated"
6:51 missiles can be defeated by stealth and agressive thrust-vectoring combined with chaff and flares but guns put the metal on target all the time
Exactly, but your aim is key. They will put the metal on the target as long as you aim correctly. Thankfully it’s easy to aim.
They weren't flying to fast & popping flares like dynamite... the 22 would have dominated with guns 4 of the fights for sure and even had a chance in the second with that ghastly overshot & turned starboard dead into the sun.
@@callsignvapor07 that’s crazy I thought you just had to shoot at random and the bullets magically defied physics to hit what you wanted
@@MrCk1234567890 do you need a hug? Go see a therapist.
"Some people think they can outsmart me, maybe, maybe. I have yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet" - Heavy
Very cool how the air around the aircraft gets compressed into steam during bank maneuvers
11:45 Ah, yes. The di*k of trees.
0:19 F-22 raptor casually chasing a humvee
the weak should fear the strong
Tonight on Top Gear...
tired of the armchair jokes maybe
@@omshree901 jokes on you
F22 : "heyyy come back with my sandwich"
That is an incredibly close fight. I know the aircraft play a part in it but you both are really good at using the the air craft and their abilities. It’s obvious that if a mistake is made the other picks up on it.
This was so suspensful and fun to watch. Great work!
Gotta love when the canopy yeets on out of there without the pilot
Like an idiot yelling at my phone JESUS CHRIST! USE YOUR GUN!
Whole office goes silent....
Longshot was the Ace of the Base this day for being so aggressive.
Great vid! Now probably have to visit HR...
lold
LMAO thats made me laugh there bud.
Thanks for the comment
What happened then? Did everyone joined you and the entire office was in your cubicle?
@@LongShotChannel LongShot!👍✌
@@Blue_Pumpkin I’m not allowed to watch GS/Longshot vids at work any longer haha
Can you redo this with you two piloting the opposite aircraft?
agreed.
I like watching these sort of videos where fighters of similar capabilities are put against each other. Would like to see you fight the f22 with the su57, if it is still possible
That maneuvering at 12:57 🥶🥶
This was the fight for the ages. Probably the best GS video of 2021 and the year isn't even close to being over.
Gonna be honest, this didn't really feel like that close of a match despite the score. The times the F22 got hit was due to pilot error/failure to switch to cannons. Very entertaining fight, was super impressed with the SU's vectoring, just seemed more like a showcase of the pilots rather than the planes
I agree. This is the worst I've ever seen him fly.
Absolutely, overshot then turns in to the sun & refused to go to the guns at such close range, not to mention the bogey was dropping flares like a fireworks show... for God sake go to guns !
and I think if su-57 being flown by GS, f22 gonna be clapped
Your logic is stupid, if you go by that the times the felon got shot down bc of pilot not doing the right things.
@@DealorG So how is what you described not a showcase of pilots rather than planes?
PATRIOT missiles! I work with those! 😂
How long to train someone to use the Patriot?
everybody got suggested this video after top gun: mavericks
PLS DO WHERE YOURE IN SU-57 VS F-22 PLS PLS PLS
Yes... I will reply and support every comment that says this...