I'm pretty sure MLB even conducted an investigation because both the Indians and Red sox accused the Astros. MLB later stated the Astros were not involved in stealing signs not rather were simply monitoring other dugouts to make sure they were not stealing signs...Yep, MLB actually said that
Honestly, he really would have nothing to add to the conversation other than being the guy who posted the videos on TH-cam that helped bring attention on a mainstream level to this scandal.
When the Astros open their next season against the Angels in March, the Angels catcher should use his middle finger for the signs, just in case he's being watched.
It really sucks being an Astros fan. It’s my town. It’s my team. I didn’t choose this. It absolutely spoils the single greatest victory I ever got to celebrate in 2017 and I can no longer be proud of what my team and town accomplished.
Long Dodger fan, I was in Downtown LA for that game 7. I have never seen so many of my friends and grown men cry. Furthermore one of my friends broke his television. I would be up for a class action...LOL
@@californiahandball yeah..... As a Dodger fan that hurt.... It just felt like after coming so close you knew they couldn't make it all the way next year.
@Jon Dough Even if its dumb, you spend your free time commenting on a dude's channel who you hate according to your comment history. What a waste of human life.
I will add TrashCanGate to this fiasco, cause that's what it is! Easy to identify, trash team using where they belong, trash cans lol. Houston*, or the Houston asterisks, i hope someone makes a tshirt
@@droyal18able Did you even watch this video? As Jomboy says, this entire scandal was initially based on solid reporting (since corroborated and expanded upon) from The Athletic and Yahoo Sports.
@@MarbleWhornets "Nah. 30 For 30. Waste Management" What if I told you, that the key to winning the world series, could be found, filled with empty soda bottles, and cups of sunflower seeds.
@@blank7137 You say that but every team in MLB history has tried to cheat. Teams usually just go to the MLB to settle these disputes rather than to the public so nobody hears about them. Point being that no players ever talk about how their team cheats. The culture of Baseball and really all of sports is plagued by it.
Dub Lu noone’s mentioning that - not a single soul from the Astros organization is bubbling with outrage - just quiet quiet quiet and online anonymous fans with their ‘so?’ comments
2:30:44 Great view of sign is being put down simultaneously as the coach is checking the signal man in the bullpen to see what pitch is coming. th-cam.com/video/Nvv1gdF_ed8/w-d-xo.html
So teams now knowing the Astros are more likely to strike out or make bad contact are going to put them on base? Seems like a good idea. I could maybe understand the Dodgers or Yanks but nah.
i am really excited to see the astros come back to dodger stadium next year. that will be an entertaining series to go watch :) so many HBPs and HBFs (hit by fans) lmao
@Vincent Cuttolo check Darvish's Twitter. Accused the astros and brewers of doing it to him. People called him crazy and paranoid, turns out he is most likely right
The one saving grace in all this was that they lost all their home games in the WS. Would love to know if the Nats knew about this and countered some how.
I heard the nats were kind of aware of it, so they decided to make much more complex signs and change them constantly. Don't know if that's the truth but I've heard a couple of these shows talk about that
Imagine cheating at home and losing every home game. that is the real funny story. That is what is crazy to me. They have always been a great road team. How much did the cheating really help? They won two in LA, 3 in WSH. The team is a World Series team but damn
@@aidanflynn2037 I mean, nothing wrong with cheering for the home team *when you have no clue*. That he's claiming now that they didn't do it is plain ignorance, and there's no way to fix that.
Looking at the strikeout graph at 6:40 and it reminds me so much of the analysis of the Patriots fumble rate compared to other teams back when Deflategate was big. Honestly insane to think nothing is going on.
The problem with Deflategate is that the “data” the league tried to push out to convict the Pats was taken so haphazardly that it can’t be used to prove anything. Different gauges, different times, different procedures for handling Indy’s balls, and the nail in the coffin-the fact the NFL didn’t publish the results of the “season-long” study of psi through a game/season. We will never know if the Pats deflated footballs during the playoffs and/or regular season unless Brady at some point comes out and admits it. You can’t take bad data from one game where the League was trying (clearly they were) to nail the Pats and say that correlation = causation. There’s plenty of reasons why the Pats fumble rate for 2014 would be less than other teams: 1-no “home run” RBs, they used RBs to wind the clock and in certain yardage situations, not to have Kareem Hunt break 7 tackles on a 79 yard run 2-outside of Blount all their RBs were pass-catching RBs, better hands less fumbles 3-you had TB12 as your QB, you’re going to run less when you have the GOAT, less pressure on RBs to “make a play” and 4-training, yes-all teams practice ball control, BB just isn’t going to carry anyone who isn’t secure. Maroney and Ridley were both exciting RBs who got cut for ball security issues.
This is a horrible hitting team that cheated and became World Series winners. If that isn’t fucked up then I don’t know what is. And they never stopped cheating. These guys all need to be kicked out of baseball for life. This is far greater than betting on and throwing a game. They’ve ruined baseball for the past 3 years.
cjr1881 agreed! Shoeless joe Jackson got banned for knowing about the white Sox scandal, not telling on them and didn’t participate...everyone involved on the astros needs to be banned for life.
Someone in another video posted Kershaw’s stats at home (or at other parks, I forget) and then at the Astros’ park His stats basically double when playing the Astros
@@scottyc1093 ohh, I don't know, the email? Friers? Every single home video from 2017(check the Reddit thread!), The graph that shows the Astros going from worst to first? The graph that shows a natural progression of teams, and then the Astros way down off the natural curve? It's 2019, and we fucking record everything, broscotty.
@@dionysus122 stealing signs isn't cheating. It's part of the game, that's why all catchers and coaches use indicators, to let the pitcher, base runner of fielders know which sign is the right one. Btw, you're not supposed to trust the other team; that's your adversary, not you're lover.
@@wattsrecords1734 Stealing signs using CAMERAS is cheating. Having a baserunner on 2nd try to pick up on the signs is completely fair game because he's already in a spot where he can see. Using cameras is just stupid and unfair because it takes the strategy out of it when you can just have a room of analysts decipher the signs after 2 at bats and kick a trash can so their team gets an unfair advantage.
I thought Cole was the worst teammate ever for wearing the Boras hat in his postgame, but maybe he was sick of being on a team that does this kind of stuff.
Yanks are likely going to be in as much trouble or more soon though. Tons of info showing they used the YES network to relay signs and spy on dugout/bullpens of opposing teams.
Y'know the irony of the Astros' cheating gongs is that their World Series hopes ended in a gong from Kendrick's foul pole hr. How freakin poetic is that!
Charles Szasz Best pitcher of all time? LOL. Not even close. Sounds like you’re an Astros fan living under a rock until September 2017. He’s the best pitcher the last 2 years maybe. He may not have even been in the hall of fame conversation until he came to Houston. Nolan Ryan is arguably the best pitcher of all time and I bring him up specifically because he pitched for the Astros for 9 years... The Astros even retired his number. Did you forget about him or were you not even aware of his existence? 😂
Verlander is very very good, but not the best of all time. He’s up there, maybe top 20. But I think this depends on the age of the person ( or persons) who think this. No disrespect, but if the 50 yr olds were asked they’d likely mention Clemens, Seaver, Big Randy, and others in that group. 30’s or so would not be wrong in voting for Verlander. It’s simply a generation gap, that’s all....
Of course. He cost the Astros a 3-2 lead in the World Series and he complaining about "juiced balls" instead of taking responsibility of why he is giving up so much home runs throughout the season.
6:20 Astros were already above .500 in ‘15 and ‘16. It wasn’t like they went from 100 losses to 100 wins in a single season. The insane strikeout rate change was no coincidence.
Road splits say otherwise. Still the best team over the past 3 seasons. Throws all that out the window now that they cheated. MLB just needs to ban Lunhow and Hinch. Force the Astros to clean house. See if Crane had any knowledge and then from there decide what to do in terms of fines, draft pick loss etc.
As an Astros fan, this is so disheartening. It does seem true and that makes the Astros success much less important. Astros don't deserve their praise anymore
6:35 is so damning. I was thinking cheating helped the Astros some, but now I see it helped the Astros A LOT. They were 14th in strikeout rates in 2016, and then suddenly 1st in 2017. Other teams cheat too, but the Astros EXCELLED in cheating. I was so impressed with their success story and analytics, but now I see a large part of it was simply cheating. This taints their trophy and their players, bc they were in on it. I agree with Jomboy that the Astros continued to cheat in 2018 and 2019. MLB needs to crack down on this problem.
mcisco9 As an Astros fan, I am livid. How stupid can they be? How did they not think they would be caught? And it’s no longer a question of who on the team knew because it’s so obvious that pretty much all of the players were in on it. As someone who’s been a fan for my whole life this just pisses me off.
Because people were saying that was Altuve hall of fame moment when he walked off Chapman to send the Astor’s to the world-series,that would be a shame
To be fair, making that statement in the first place is a massive insult to Altuve. And that's coming from a Yankees fan. While I'm not a fan of the guy by any stretch of the imagination, I do like that Chapman has started throwing more off speed stuff. But when you can't hit the broadside of a barn with your signature pitch & it gets you behind in the count time and again, there is no need for technology. The batter can just sit on an off speed pitch. He still needed to come through in the moment, but that shit was practically gift wrapped to Altuve by Boone when he let the at bat continue.
Iceberg86300 I just wanna know before I can condemn Altuve or not ,wouldn’t you like to know..they are tainted now. They made the bed and now they have to lay in it
@@Greenhead24 for sure!!! I just wanted to add a little bit of perspective for that particular situation. We don't really know what, if anything, was going on in 2019. But even if they were up to shady shit I'm simply not going to nullify the Yankees loss. The Yankees were caught as well, and I'm sure other teams are, or have, pulled similar shady shit. But yeah, they seem to have been caught red handed & whether they deserve it or not, there is one guaranteed consequence: all accomplishments during this period have become suspect. For me, the current asterisk is nowhere near what the roid heads have, but it is an asterisk nonetheless. I really hope a lot more details surface, that's for damn sure.
That's probably the worst example to accuse the Astros of cheating. Everybody and their mother knew Chapman was gonna throw a slider there, no technology needed. Not to mention the pitch before that was a slider right down the middle and Altuve didn't swing at it.
@Vinnie Provolone True, the guy's a legitimate talent as his breakout season came at 2013 and he won couple of batting titles before the cheating began. However because of this, people will no longer look at him the same way again and I agree with them.
I am a longtime baseball fan (Yankees) and watch 162+ games a year. This makes my blood boil. If MLB doesn't do something drastic I will never watch 1 more inning baseball....
Try this one: All of the best players and managers and assistants got sucked up by the Astros winning 2017 and 2018 seasons (because obviously the had to have cheated in 18 too /s). Who wouldn't want to join a winning team? So that meant fewer competent employees for the Cubs to pick up. Those dang dirty trashtros ruined the league and your 2019 season.
These last three seasons I have been a bigger Yankee fan than I have ever been. I really felt we were gonna do it in 2017 but we came a game short and it makes me sick that the Astros cheated. When we got Stanton we improved like crazy as predicted in 2018. It didn’t help that we ran out of gas in the playoffs and the Red Sox were outstanding. Now this year after we swept the Twins and dominated game 1 in Houston I thought it would be a cake walk... but no. The offense ran out of gas and we lost in 6. But now after hearing the Astros might’ve cheated this year too I am sick to my stomach.
having no salary cap amd spending tens of millions more than other clubs is the same as cheating. Yeah its not a rule, but thats why every other major american sport has one. Because its only a level playing field if all teams can spend the same.
Not a cake walk at all. We took game 1 in Houston and nearly took game 2, we then proceeded to shit the bed in games 3 and 4 back home. I'm in the minority here when I say that the recent allegations against the Astros don't excuse our incompetence in the home games we had.
My favorite have been the comments talking shit on jomboy. A few butthurt astros fans trying to discredit you, refusing to state the obvious truth in the face. Keep up the good work, jomboy.
Just saw the cbs interview congrats man good for you for blowing up I have been enjoying your content for a while now and I love it keep up the good work.
@@CardiacCat20 I think your right because Manfred doesnt have the balls. I just think that is what needs to happen given the extent of this all and how blatant the Astros were about it.
This is amazing research. Sad that a team with that talent had to resort to this. My opinion of this whole thing has swayed quite a bit since the news first broke.
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This is gonna be such a great movie in 20 years
Will Edwards facts
Ikr?
It will be titled “TrashBall”
“From the people who brought you Moneyball”....
Facts
Astros gonna get fined for PETs.....
Performance Enhancing Trashcans
Zaktron underrated comment
On a serious note, they are most assuredly doing big-head drugs, also.
And whistles
PEVs
Lol
Trevor Bauer....He called it out and got mocked for it. He was spot on
Ocasio-Cortez4prez2022 he’s said a lot of things lol
Ocasio-Cortez4prez2022 they probably did that too
@Ocasio-Cortez4prez2022 you aren't very smart if you want AOC 4 prez
I'm pretty sure MLB even conducted an investigation because both the Indians and Red sox accused the Astros.
MLB later stated the Astros were not involved in stealing signs not rather were simply monitoring other dugouts to make sure they were not stealing signs...Yep, MLB actually said that
@@bobthebuilder5779
2022?
Catcher: *Signals for Offspeed Pitch*
Trashcan: Aw Shit, here we go again.
@Ulysses432 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
All you had to do, was follow the damn bang, C.J.!
@Satanogoat Rex That's what she said.
Is ah not aw
@@followthegrow108 are you really gonna comment on someone’s grammar when you can’t even spell “it’s”
Jomboy: Has several good points that prove the astros are cheating
Astros Fans: how about no
They elected Biden the Pervert and Kumallovermymala herass the w hore
This is going to be a great 30 for 30, and Jomboy is going to be sitting there on ESPN answering questions for the documentary. Can't wait
Phil Sinex for sure
Really hope they blow this up and make a huge deal out of it. Set an example for the rest of the industry
I sure hope Jomboy makes a career of it. He has been single handedly saving baseball way before the Astro’s cheating scandal.
1919 Black Sox
2019 Trashtros
Gotta love it. XD
Honestly, he really would have nothing to add to the conversation other than being the guy who posted the videos on TH-cam that helped bring attention on a mainstream level to this scandal.
When the Astros open their next season against the Angels in March, the Angels catcher should use his middle finger for the signs, just in case he's being watched.
Yea that would be awesome
Ruben T 😆
Great idea
😂😂😂
Yes
Best College Gameday sign yesterday...”The Astros Stole My Other Sign”
Mickey Hill yeah I saw that 😂
Hahaha awesome
Anyone have a video of it
missed that--- thanks- College kids are the best..
Stealing signs is part of the game. Using technology to do it, absolutely unacceptable.
Exactly. Inbetween the lines isn't cheating. Using a camera to help relay signs is cheating at its most egregious form.
REEEEEEEE
Seems acceptable now everyone is happy for them. Didn’t even apologize
As a Yankee fan, I wholeheartedly thank the Nats for not allowing these cheaters another title. 🙏
Sean Harris yw
Don't be mad because y'all sucked for 10 years
@@George_Gilbert hey shut up Astros have no rights to argue anymore when you're own pitcher confessed
Now if only all those other teams could have stopped the cheating Yankees from getting all those titles.
@@lucuix9901 really how did we cheat
Imagine Jomboy making a shirt out of one of your tweets
terrence maday My tweet would be: My other t-shirt is in the wash.
Imagine Jomboy doing cartwheels in a tu-tu
Imagine Jomboy Jomboying
It's not casual Friday. I'm having, a breakdown.
Terrence Maday, time to make your standards a tad higher if that's your potential peak moment
Trashcan has to press charges on the Astros for that abuse
Jomboy in 2019: The Houston Astros Are Cheating, a breakdown
Jomboy in 2029: The Houston Astros Are Cheating, a movie
It really sucks being an Astros fan. It’s my town. It’s my team. I didn’t choose this. It absolutely spoils the single greatest victory I ever got to celebrate in 2017 and I can no longer be proud of what my team and town accomplished.
At least you know your team was in the wrong. Some fans are completely in denial
Sucks man. I was a Conor McGregor fan so I feel your pain
I’m sorry. That is sad.
If it makes you feel better, I’m a mariners fan. The last time they made it to the al series I was 5
@@brittney6396 I haven’t watched baseball since this scandal. Just completely gave up on it
@@NightDocs Just root for the Rangers or Braves
Paid promotion: “I like this one because it’s stupid”-Jomboy
The Astros stole this comment
Bang bang
XxSoulFlyxX 😂😂😂
Jomboy stole your mom
Lol
@@XxSEETH3RxX change up
They are going to get boo’d out of every stadium next year and I can’t wait for it 😂
I bet you can’t
Gabe H Rockets fan lmaooooo
Nick Valentin
Hell yuh
oh well, someone has to be the villan, go stros!
@Greg Fakerson shut your holier then thou ass up, FAKErson lol
Can we get a 🙏🙏 for Jomboy plugging advertisement at the end of a +11 minutes video instead of the beginning
The man is on fire🔥
Imma sue the Astros for the emotional distress they caused me
Good luck
Make it a class action suit. I still havent recovered fron the back and forth of the 2017 WS
how pathetic is it that the astros had to routinely cheat to even have a chance at stealing a series from the yankees?
Long Dodger fan, I was in Downtown LA for that game 7. I have never seen so many of my friends and grown men cry. Furthermore one of my friends broke his television. I would be up for a class action...LOL
@@californiahandball yeah..... As a Dodger fan that hurt.... It just felt like after coming so close you knew they couldn't make it all the way next year.
God bless you and all the other countless people putting actual evidence out there and never letting this die. Eagerly waiting for the smack down.
Sohailusive god bless the Yankees didn’t win this decade
@@slnredd2021 yea god bless because he is just letting the salty Yankee haters talk shit while he orchestrates our next Dynasty
What evidence? A bunch of mic'd over banging? I think that is a bit steep for evidence.
@@mattk5721 mic'd over??? Go watch the games
@@mattk5721 did you watch the video they have emails too
The Astros stole Jomboy's computer
😩🤣🤣
Now did Boston do the same in 2018? Since Cora was the manager....
Aditya Rao ok boomer
Nerd Neck Ok fortnite player. 97’ baby
Jay Varela It’s zoomer for short btw
RIP Trashcans at Astros Opponents’ Stadiums
wmaneker There must be a mass grave for those trash cans
Would be redundant as they don't have the cameras for away games. It a home stadium advantage.
@@timwebster8111 they're saying opposing fans are going to beat the shit out of those trash cans every time the Astros are at bat. I know I will...
Ben Cox - you nailed it
Like how many people are going to bring trash cans or stuff of the sort to the games next year.
The saddest part about all this is, the Astros are so stacked with talent and still need to go down this route is so baffling.
It's not enough to be stacked. Just look at the Dodgers, for example.
@Jon Dough Even if its dumb, you spend your free time commenting on a dude's channel who you hate according to your comment history. What a waste of human life.
Pete Rose was banned for life for BETTING on a non rigged game. Lifetime bans are completely appropriate for all players and Coaches...
I am now a salty dodgers fan
Dodgers robbed
Richard Eggers hey at least Yankee fans r guaranteed to have a good team about every year. Idk about the dodgers and how long they’ll last
As someone who usually dislikes the Dodgers, I now feel bad for them. They were potentially robbed of a World Series title from cheaters.
game 7 was in LA
Fr fuck the Astros
I love the “Jomboy for Commissioner” tweet tee 🔥
Shoot that was my idea! I'd be his aid!!!
I will add TrashCanGate to this fiasco, cause that's what it is! Easy to identify, trash team using where they belong, trash cans lol.
Houston*, or the Houston asterisks, i hope someone makes a tshirt
From Rosenthal no less.
Really appreciate how thorough you are in giving other journalists credit and attribution. Sadly rare these days -- awesome job man.
Journalists dont deserve any credit. Most lie or imbelish stories on a regular basis just to get people to read a story.
@@droyal18able Did you even watch this video? As Jomboy says, this entire scandal was initially based on solid reporting (since corroborated and expanded upon) from The Athletic and Yahoo Sports.
Donald Royal Sure there’s a lot of bad journalism out there, but goddamn, credit where credit is due man. This one was all solid journalism.
Yeah the athletic always produces good stuff. You certainly can’t rely on any mainstream media for quality content, but the smaller guys do good work.
I really hope my team isn’t one of the “other teams” pulling this crap.
Yankees and Red Sox are the only other ones to have gotten caught
My team is the Rockies. No way they're cheating as crappy as they are. If they are doing it they have serious issues and can't even cheat right 😂
I definitely know my SF giants aren't doing this. We suck way too much.
I'm scared my Rays are doing it. What if that's why all those misfits were doing so well...
@@joeg5414 so true we suck
can’t wait for a documentary on this
“30 For 30: The Banging Cheating Trashcans of Texas”
@@MarbleWhornets "Nah. 30 For 30. Waste Management"
What if I told you, that the key to winning the world series, could be found, filled with empty soda bottles, and cups of sunflower seeds.
Satanogoat Rex stfu moron
This shit is ridiculous! Can’t look at their line up the same anymore.
ita not the players fault
@@therealrobin8128 I would think they'd have stronger morals and just deny to do any cheating.
The Real Robin Ik it’s not their fault, but they knew what pitch was coming. Hard to not think they’d be different players if they didn’t
@@blank7137 You say that but every team in MLB history has tried to cheat. Teams usually just go to the MLB to settle these disputes rather than to the public so nobody hears about them. Point being that no players ever talk about how their team cheats. The culture of Baseball and really all of sports is plagued by it.
in that you are right .
Lol there's no defending their system
Dub Lu noone’s mentioning that - not a single soul from the Astros organization is bubbling with outrage - just quiet quiet quiet and online anonymous fans with their ‘so?’ comments
2:30:44 Great view of sign is being put down simultaneously as the coach is checking the signal man in the bullpen to see what pitch is coming.
th-cam.com/video/Nvv1gdF_ed8/w-d-xo.html
Oh, they're definitely TRYING to defend it! Lol
Jomboy just know you're automatically invited to the cook out
True that
Jimmy, ever find yourself in Little Rock, AR you’ve got a hot meal and a bed waiting for you.
HOMIE PENDEJON the stale white people food cookout
@@joeblanco3758 Did you read his username?
As an Astros fan I'm extremely disappointed in them.
As a Detroit tigers fan, I can safely say we aren't one of the other teams that cheats. That 47-114 record says it all 😂.
You guys were giving away signs, not stealing them lol
Or maybe the Tigers were cheating but r so bad that they messed it up
But for the life of me why would the Tigers hire AJ Hinch? Same goes with the Red Sox hiring Alex Cora. 🤦♂️
Visiting pitcher: Hears banging, then throws fastball.
e2ipie true. Problem is your catcher might get hurt and stuff you in a trash can back in the locker room
@@omarc606 Tell the catcher that's what you'll be doing. Why keep HIM in the dark?
I waa taught to keep your eye on the ball and keep the ball in front of you. So maybe they should keep the basics of fielding in mind.
Steven Burks expecting a breaking ball that is 70-80 (generally) and then getting 90-100 would be really hard to handle
@Kameron Pohlman I've seen the videos
I predict an increase of HBP’s on Astro batters next season
We can only hope
Fastballs up & in +1000%
So teams now knowing the Astros are more likely to strike out or make bad contact are going to put them on base? Seems like a good idea. I could maybe understand the Dodgers or Yanks but nah.
i am really excited to see the astros come back to dodger stadium next year. that will be an entertaining series to go watch :) so many HBPs and HBFs (hit by fans) lmao
@@acs_99 Fans are gonna be wild. Won't doubt that throw at a pitcher right away and then play straight up. Gonna laugh though if the Stros win haha
The Yankees bang on the dugout when they’re pissed at the umpires
jhive23 Gardner proceeds to bang roof of dugout with his hat*
8:30 Yu Darvish was saying how he noticed Astros batters were always looking past him in 2017. Now I see why.
@Vincent Cuttolo Horse?
@Vincent Cuttolo check Darvish's Twitter. Accused the astros and brewers of doing it to him. People called him crazy and paranoid, turns out he is most likely right
Trevor Bauer also accused them of stealing signs in 2017 or 2018
@@manwithamic2372 I kind of remember that.
Whoa.
The one saving grace in all this was that they lost all their home games in the WS. Would love to know if the Nats knew about this and countered some how.
I heard we did do that. Not too sure though.
Anthony Draghi absolute legends- I wonder how they did it
From what I've heard enough teams reached out that they developed a more complicated and constantly changing system to prevent that.
I heard the nats were kind of aware of it, so they decided to make much more complex signs and change them constantly. Don't know if that's the truth but I've heard a couple of these shows talk about that
Imagine cheating, and yet still losing
Astros: *story of ma life*
A Random Gingerbread house if you’re cheating you are already losing even if you win
Connor Berglund well said. They got beat both ways!
Imagine cheating at home and losing every home game. that is the real funny story. That is what is crazy to me. They have always been a great road team. How much did the cheating really help? They won two in LA, 3 in WSH. The team is a World Series team but damn
Reminds me of SB 42.
Iceman we lost 2 in Houston by 1 run... a gift wrapped turd is still a turd.
"Houston Trashtros" lmao
Did you mean Houston A$$h0lEs?
Houston Asterisks *
@@allykatt1849 Just combine them, and you get the Houston Trashholes.
Collin Pople Houston asterisks
@@jeremyc9593 thats the 1 the Houston Trashholes
I stand by what I’ve been saying on Twitter - DO NOT stop looking into this. Keep this story alive. They need to be punished!!!
Oh no the story is dying.... help everyone keep this story alive. Go Stros 🤘
Dee Best a month late lmaoooooo
Dee Best how’s that now Dee? lol. Go stros? 😂😂
GOD THIS AGED WELL
Frankie C hahahahahahhahahaha what a phenomenal day in the baseball world
Lost all respect for the Astros and the Astro’s players
1:45 They literally found a picture of some Astros employee installing a tv in that location. Houston’s been telling on themselves this whole time.
Obi Wan Jomboby You're Our Only Hope
Universal Collective bro
Universal Collective.. GENIUS
Love your coverage of this. Sent your last one covering the initial story to a friend who hadn't been following it and it caught him up nice and easy.
This makes me angry, how did they get away with this for so long?
rjbail u full of bull shit
MAKE SHIT HAPPEN stfu astros fan. Shame on you for cheering for a bunch of cheaters
@@aidanflynn2037 I mean, nothing wrong with cheering for the home team *when you have no clue*. That he's claiming now that they didn't do it is plain ignorance, and there's no way to fix that.
"How did they get away with this for so long? Same reason other teams who have been doing the same or similar have.
bradness this just seems like a different level of openness, it’s so obvious. At least try to get fancy with it and hide it
Looking at the strikeout graph at 6:40 and it reminds me so much of the analysis of the Patriots fumble rate compared to other teams back when Deflategate was big. Honestly insane to think nothing is going on.
The problem with Deflategate is that the “data” the league tried to push out to convict the Pats was taken so haphazardly that it can’t be used to prove anything. Different gauges, different times, different procedures for handling Indy’s balls, and the nail in the coffin-the fact the NFL didn’t publish the results of the “season-long” study of psi through a game/season.
We will never know if the Pats deflated footballs during the playoffs and/or regular season unless Brady at some point comes out and admits it.
You can’t take bad data from one game where the League was trying (clearly they were) to nail the Pats and say that correlation = causation. There’s plenty of reasons why the Pats fumble rate for 2014 would be less than other teams:
1-no “home run” RBs, they used RBs to wind the clock and in certain yardage situations, not to have Kareem Hunt break 7 tackles on a 79 yard run
2-outside of Blount all their RBs were pass-catching RBs, better hands less fumbles
3-you had TB12 as your QB, you’re going to run less when you have the GOAT, less pressure on RBs to “make a play” and
4-training, yes-all teams practice ball control, BB just isn’t going to carry anyone who isn’t secure. Maroney and Ridley were both exciting RBs who got cut for ball security issues.
Should compare their strikeout to walk ratio at home vs on the road.
This is a horrible hitting team that cheated and became World Series winners. If that isn’t fucked up then I don’t know what is. And they never stopped cheating. These guys all need to be kicked out of baseball for life. This is far greater than betting on and throwing a game. They’ve ruined baseball for the past 3 years.
cjr1881 agreed! Shoeless joe Jackson got banned for knowing about the white Sox scandal, not telling on them and didn’t participate...everyone involved on the astros needs to be banned for life.
Someone in another video posted Kershaw’s stats at home (or at other parks, I forget) and then at the Astros’ park
His stats basically double when playing the Astros
And Kershaw prob thinks it’s because he always chokes in the playoffs. Might be able to salvage some of his confidence back
Bad example cause the average fan will allude to kershaws postseason struggles however I did hear the whistling in the 2017 WS, so trash of the Astros
@@cristianmontoya1195 because Mattingly let him through 130 pitches a game
@@thomasjefferson2813 He let him through it? What was on the other side?
@@jeremyc9593 MOAR PEACHES!!!11!1
It's so funny to me they never thought about how much shit is documented nowadays, and IF they got caught, how easy it would be to prove it.
Thomas Banks yea after 3 years and a World Series
Where's the actual proof?
@@scottyc1093 ohh, I don't know, the email? Friers? Every single home video from 2017(check the Reddit thread!), The graph that shows the Astros going from worst to first? The graph that shows a natural progression of teams, and then the Astros way down off the natural curve? It's 2019, and we fucking record everything, broscotty.
Matias Morales just like the astros fist fucked y’all 3 times in the last 5 years
I think the Astros just didn't think it was a big deal like Barry Bonds doing PEDs.
The Astros are cursing Jomboy right now
Not a yankees fan, but it is pretty great the story picked up traction due to a die hard yankees fan on youtube.
Big Time. And you just know Ken Rosenthal will be black-listed by them.
As punishment the Astros will have to go back to being the Astros.
They should be forced to become the Montreal Expos... that's punishment enough.
James Brown youppi is too good of a punishment though
Missed the perfect time to say Asstros
This is on some Black Sox level stuff. Life time bans shouldn't be out of the question here.
From this day forward, I am NOT an Astros fan. I wasn't before, but I'm still not a fan.
@Lil Naive Damn dude really? Wishing death on other peoples pets? Jeez...
We have brought the “winning atmosphere” to this ballclub.
Code for we brought the “cheating atmosphere” to the ballclub.
Stealing signs is as old as baseball. Where do you think indicators came from?
"Everyone cheats. It's a part of life. Deal it and don't get upset." Is that what you say when your wife/girlfriend cheats on you?
@@dionysus122 stealing signs isn't cheating. It's part of the game, that's why all catchers and coaches use indicators, to let the pitcher, base runner of fielders know which sign is the right one. Btw, you're not supposed to trust the other team; that's your adversary, not you're lover.
@@wattsrecords1734 Stealing signs using CAMERAS is cheating. Having a baserunner on 2nd try to pick up on the signs is completely fair game because he's already in a spot where he can see. Using cameras is just stupid and unfair because it takes the strategy out of it when you can just have a room of analysts decipher the signs after 2 at bats and kick a trash can so their team gets an unfair advantage.
@@mayitakeyourhatsir8632 oh boo hoo. Teams should adapt, change the signs, change the indicators, evolve the process to get ahead of the technology.
Those 67 dislikes are from Astros players who have enjoyed the perks of cheating lol.
Visiting batters at Astro’s park should walk out to Ace of Base “ I saw the sign”
Haha that's jokes
Love that song
Now I have that song stuck in my head 🎶
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I thought Cole was the worst teammate ever for wearing the Boras hat in his postgame, but maybe he was sick of being on a team that does this kind of stuff.
Most likely, he’s a pitcher so he probably really didnt like it
This is the one time i will agree with a Yankees fan, great video
Yanks are likely going to be in as much trouble or more soon though. Tons of info showing they used the YES network to relay signs and spy on dugout/bullpens of opposing teams.
Greg Fakerson thats what I said
Why does jomboy not have at least 5 million subs?
bias?
The astros keep stealing his subs.
Minimum
Not enough people like baseball, despite Jomboy attracting a decent chunk of people who don't like baseball. It's dying that much.
His channel is very new
Astros just hid altuve under the mound
lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nick Sosa for a split second I thought this was Facebook and tried to react with a laugh 😂
They sure buried his bat in Game 7.
Can’t wait to see the Astros get booed everywhere they go next year. 😂
Y'know the irony of the Astros' cheating gongs is that their World Series hopes ended in a gong from Kendrick's foul pole hr. How freakin poetic is that!
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Could watch Jomboy talk about the quality of the grass growing in a field in the middle of Oklahoma and he'd make it entertaining
I'm surprised the out spoken VERLANDER hasn't spoke on it he speaks on everything else
He isn’t even close to the best pitchers of all time. Not even in the top 15.
Charles Szasz Best pitcher of all time? LOL. Not even close. Sounds like you’re an Astros fan living under a rock until September 2017. He’s the best pitcher the last 2 years maybe. He may not have even been in the hall of fame conversation until he came to Houston. Nolan Ryan is arguably the best pitcher of all time and I bring him up specifically because he pitched for the Astros for 9 years... The Astros even retired his number. Did you forget about him or were you not even aware of his existence? 😂
Verlander is very very good, but not the best of all time. He’s up there, maybe top 20. But I think this depends on the age of the person ( or persons) who think this. No disrespect, but if the 50 yr olds were asked they’d likely mention Clemens, Seaver, Big Randy, and others in that group. 30’s or so would not be wrong in voting for Verlander. It’s simply a generation gap, that’s all....
Of course. He cost the Astros a 3-2 lead in the World Series and he complaining about "juiced balls" instead of taking responsibility of why he is giving up so much home runs throughout the season.
Charles Szasz What does velocity have to do with anything? Also, I can name like 15 guys with better stats than him.
We need Jomboy on that 2020 presidential ticket. He’s Making Breakdowns Great Again!
Well in a perfect world yea. But he’s not of age to run, and he lacks the financial backing to support a nationwide political campaign.
As an Astros fan, this is so gut wrenching and hard to watch unfold
Ur team are assholes.
6:20 Astros were already above .500 in ‘15 and ‘16. It wasn’t like they went from 100 losses to 100 wins in a single season. The insane strikeout rate change was no coincidence.
Plain and Simple: The Houston Cheaters Aren’t that good after all.
Sean vasquez they’re good, they just aren’t THAT good
All baseball teams do this but most aren’t stupid enough to get caught.
It is legal to steal sign but is not legal to use a camera to steal signs
Road splits say otherwise. Still the best team over the past 3 seasons. Throws all that out the window now that they cheated. MLB just needs to ban Lunhow and Hinch. Force the Astros to clean house. See if Crane had any knowledge and then from there decide what to do in terms of fines, draft pick loss etc.
Hey Jomboy can you graphically design the Houston logo with asterisks please?
Would be funny
As an Astros fan, this is so disheartening. It does seem true and that makes the Astros success much less important. Astros don't deserve their praise anymore
Next time you get a traffic ticket for speeding, tell the patrolman everyone was doing it. How will that go?
6:35 is so damning. I was thinking cheating helped the Astros some, but now I see it helped the Astros A LOT. They were 14th in strikeout rates in 2016, and then suddenly 1st in 2017. Other teams cheat too, but the Astros EXCELLED in cheating. I was so impressed with their success story and analytics, but now I see a large part of it was simply cheating. This taints their trophy and their players, bc they were in on it. I agree with Jomboy that the Astros continued to cheat in 2018 and 2019. MLB needs to crack down on this problem.
As a Dodger fan, i am livid.
mcisco9
I am not a Dodger fan, but I am livid for you too.
mcisco9 As an Astros fan, I am livid. How stupid can they be? How did they not think they would be caught? And it’s no longer a question of who on the team knew because it’s so obvious that pretty much all of the players were in on it. As someone who’s been a fan for my whole life this just pisses me off.
JoeMata31 Lifelong Astros fan here too and I couldn't agree more. It's shameful and embarrassing. Breaks my heart
@Gangster of Love i bet you are.
@@thinkaboutthatok8129 i guess all fans on baseball are angry for cheating the game.
It would be amazing to have home teams broadcast the sound of a trash can being spanked over the stadium speakers whenever the astros are at bat
“Ohhh... buy a shirt” 😂😂😂
“Houston Trashtros”
As an Astros fan I’m just like 😱 and 😔 if it’s all true. Still love my guys but damn that’s gonna hurt! Also that shirt is mean lol
I still can't see how these people thought this was ok, no sanctions can be tough enough, pure and simple cheating in the worst way
Jomboy triggered whole city of Houston and Astros fans😂😂😭GOod Job👏👏
Jomboy, Ken Rosenthal, and Mike Fiers are all heroes
Fiers a cheater too though... He had pine tar on both his no hitters SMH. Hypocrite
@@thomasjefferson2813 WTF lmfaooooooo 😅 😂🤣 SMFH
@@dirtymikeandtheboyz2570 ???
lmao fiers is a cheater too. he was on that team when it happened so he needs to be held accountable for not coming forward sooner
Add Danny Farquhar to that list as well.
Because people were saying that was Altuve hall of fame moment when he walked off Chapman to send the Astor’s to the world-series,that would be a shame
To be fair, making that statement in the first place is a massive insult to Altuve. And that's coming from a Yankees fan.
While I'm not a fan of the guy by any stretch of the imagination, I do like that Chapman has started throwing more off speed stuff. But when you can't hit the broadside of a barn with your signature pitch & it gets you behind in the count time and again, there is no need for technology. The batter can just sit on an off speed pitch.
He still needed to come through in the moment, but that shit was practically gift wrapped to Altuve by Boone when he let the at bat continue.
Iceberg86300 I just wanna know before I can condemn Altuve or not ,wouldn’t you like to know..they are tainted now. They made the bed and now they have to lay in it
@@Greenhead24 for sure!!!
I just wanted to add a little bit of perspective for that particular situation. We don't really know what, if anything, was going on in 2019. But even if they were up to shady shit I'm simply not going to nullify the Yankees loss. The Yankees were caught as well, and I'm sure other teams are, or have, pulled similar shady shit.
But yeah, they seem to have been caught red handed & whether they deserve it or not, there is one guaranteed consequence: all accomplishments during this period have become suspect.
For me, the current asterisk is nowhere near what the roid heads have, but it is an asterisk nonetheless. I really hope a lot more details surface, that's for damn sure.
That's probably the worst example to accuse the Astros of cheating. Everybody and their mother knew Chapman was gonna throw a slider there, no technology needed. Not to mention the pitch before that was a slider right down the middle and Altuve didn't swing at it.
@Vinnie Provolone True, the guy's a legitimate talent as his breakout season came at 2013 and he won couple of batting titles before the cheating began. However because of this, people will no longer look at him the same way again and I agree with them.
Jomboy. You my friend are already a legend. Thank you for all that you do. I may be a little bit drunk right now but still...
And I have spins from the Juul, sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiiitttt.
Glad to say The Ticket Sports Radio in Dallas gave you a shout out and told people to look you up to view the Astros videos.
I am a longtime baseball fan (Yankees) and watch 162+ games a year. This makes my blood boil. If MLB doesn't do something drastic I will never watch 1 more inning baseball....
As a cubs fan, I’m trying to find some way to use this as an excuse to justify our horrible season
Try this one: All of the best players and managers and assistants got sucked up by the Astros winning 2017 and 2018 seasons (because obviously the had to have cheated in 18 too /s). Who wouldn't want to join a winning team? So that meant fewer competent employees for the Cubs to pick up. Those dang dirty trashtros ruined the league and your 2019 season.
As a fellow Cubs fan, I'll join you in this search for an excuse.
We got one though. For me, it doesn't really matter anymore.
sounds like the doug intro
lol it is, thats my mic check song
I'm really surprised how few people are sharing Doug Funnie memes right now.
Doug was the greatest show growing up :)
I liked Doug but I think Hey Arnold was better
Doug was great!
These last three seasons I have been a bigger Yankee fan than I have ever been. I really felt we were gonna do it in 2017 but we came a game short and it makes me sick that the Astros cheated. When we got Stanton we improved like crazy as predicted in 2018. It didn’t help that we ran out of gas in the playoffs and the Red Sox were outstanding. Now this year after we swept the Twins and dominated game 1 in Houston I thought it would be a cake walk... but no. The offense ran out of gas and we lost in 6. But now after hearing the Astros might’ve cheated this year too I am sick to my stomach.
The yankees got caught cheating against the red sox hypocrite much?
having no salary cap amd spending tens of millions more than other clubs is the same as cheating. Yeah its not a rule, but thats why every other major american sport has one. Because its only a level playing field if all teams can spend the same.
Not a cake walk at all. We took game 1 in Houston and nearly took game 2, we then proceeded to shit the bed in games 3 and 4 back home. I'm in the minority here when I say that the recent allegations against the Astros don't excuse our incompetence in the home games we had.
Stanton is a waste of money.
Jomboy becoming the expert on the Astros stealing scandal. Heard you on wfan this morning! I'm glad your getting recognition. You do a great job!
My favorite have been the comments talking shit on jomboy. A few butthurt astros fans trying to discredit you, refusing to state the obvious truth in the face. Keep up the good work, jomboy.
I don’t know why but when you talk serious things like this I still find you very funny😂
Another Jomboy video about the Astros cheating? Christmas came early!
Happy to say I’m pretty sure my Dodgers don’t cheat. Not the way Cody and Corey were striking out in the postseason this past year.
Rich Eisen and Jayson Stark referenced Jomboy's video early this week. Much respect bro. Love your content
Just saw the cbs interview congrats man good for you for blowing up I have been enjoying your content for a while now and I love it keep up the good work.
Vacate the 2017 title and lifetime bans for the most directly involved people. Anything less and teams wont be disincdntivised from doing this again.
Absolutely no chance the title gets vacated.
@@CardiacCat20 I think your right because Manfred doesnt have the balls. I just think that is what needs to happen given the extent of this all and how blatant the Astros were about it.
Oakland has managed to find a way around this. You can’t hear one trashcan when everyone’s banging a trashcan.
Keep it up Jomboy. Love the videos.
This is amazing research. Sad that a team with that talent had to resort to this. My opinion of this whole thing has swayed quite a bit since the news first broke.
Promote that podcast more! I'd love to hear your takes on baseball moves during the cold off-season, keep up the great work!