2020 Yamaha VMAX Gains 100 HP After Removing Factory Restrictions
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- Come on Yamaha! Check out the gains this V Max makes after getting an ECU flash and dyno tune at Moore Mafia Headquarters.
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The VMAX came out in 1985 and was not discontinued until 2021. In 2009 it was completely redesigned. And went from 1200 to 1700 CC. Amazing bikes from the 1st year to the last.
Had an '89 new out of the box. Sold it in the mid 90s. T'was a sad day...
This^^
So all VMAX after 2009 are 1700s? If so that makes it alot easier for me to look for one, I keep seeing posts that just say "(year) VMAX" and don't give any engine specs.
This is a USA bike , in the UK they are not restricted at all , 170 MPH is normal if you dare !
I've got an Mt 09 and my dad has a 2009 Vmax. We are in italy so the vmax production stopped in 2016. That bike is an absolute monster. We put a k&n filter and done the airbox mod.. All stock exhaust (here in Italy there are so much restrictions with aftermarket exhausts) and ecu flash from a famous guy that were working in the yamaha SBK team for a while. Got 186hp at wheel and it burns tyres like butter
Bravo Paolo!!
The 2009 to 2020 in the United States came at a whopping 200 hp at the wheel.
@@sedoresedore6144 that's a shame.. Here in italy they reduce the power to around 160hp at wheel. Probably we have some mechanical restrictions because of the final wheel hp we got after tuning. Need to check it out
Yes the Uk and Japan was set at a 165 hp. Our 1985 to 2008 had 1200cc at 145 hp at the wheel.
It's a 200hp engine gives 174 on the rear wheel 2009 till 2020 ....
Outstanding Chris. This is exactly why we watch and follow you. You the man!.....I wonder if you have a VmaX in your stable?
Great control Chris awesome bike bro so I brought all these thumbs ups for ya algorithms fam 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥
Had my 2018 MT-10 ECU done 2 months ago and couldn't be happier! Can see myself getting a VMax someday and will send the ECU to Moore Mafia shortly after lol! Keep up the great work Moore Mafia!!
I have the MT 10 with a KN and the Akropovik full exhaust system. What gains did you get? I want to send my ecu to him. What,was your time frame?
@@1sinister80 I haven't been on a dyno yet so not sure but it's a new bike for sure. So smooth and responsive. I did the cat delete with leo vince mid pipe and k/n filter with stock muffler as well. I sent it away friday before 4th of july and got it back end of that next week. Jealous of the full Akropovik lol!
2006 Vmax with Cobra exhaust, sound is amazing. I could only imagine what you could do with her.
My pops has a 2017 but i built him full titanium exhaust from the heads back and used some carbon graves mufflers from my old 2006 R1. It has a power commander, intake, larger injectors, and a 75 shot of N2o. Barefoot, now i have no idea how accurate his speedometer is, i was able to touch 155 and im at 4400 feet above sea level. Giving her the juice i geared out at 169. I own a 2020 R1m and a 2016 FZ1. My R1 is a princess i only ride on the nicest days because ive dropped ridiculous money on carbon fairing, i built my own 4 into 1 into 4 under seat exit titanium exhaust like the old agusta f4i's, it has gytr race cams, forgot the name of the injectors, gytr intake, ohlins suspension and linkage, and all the super trick gytr rear sets, crimp ons, etc. I only run it on c16, period. Its absolutely phenomenal. I do stand ups on the freeway but mostly im a mountain carver and this thing handles like a 2004-2008 r6. Its fuggin marvelous. My FZ1 is my wife bike since i have a carbon eurotail on my R1m. But the FZ has every single thing you can possibly do to an FZ while running pump gas + a 50 shot. My dads vmax hangs right with me until i get into 4th gear then i start walking away which is insanely impressive. I LOVE the vmax. I think theyre hands down the most badass muscle/cruiser ever built. I acquired a 1992 vmax for such a small monetary investment im doing a frame up resto mod build. Itll have all 2006 R1 suspension, wheels, brakes, and im converting it to chain drive. Its getting fuel injection with a haltech elite 1500 ecu, ive already completely built the engine with custom carillo billet connecting rods, 30 thousandths over weisco forged pistons, i had the crank blueprinted and balanced, the heads are shaved 20 thousandths, ported and polished, custom ground cams, quaiffe stainless oversized valves, heat treated and hardened OE gearset, i could go on for way longer but who cares right? Point is, the thing is gonna be pretty cool i think. And im gonna just hand the keys to my dad to thank him for being exactly that. My dad. He has NO idea i plan to give it to him. He comes to my shop just to look at it and ask me how its coming he loves the thing. One more thing that im actually really proud of, i did the aircraft paint stripper in the frame, spent probably 20 hours polishing it, and had it powdercoated a transparent Yamaha blue. It looks like blue chrome its absolutely ridiculous. Cheers y'all.
That sounds amazing! Any pics anywhere to be seen?
@@hanselemans4237 keep in mind its not done yet but the frame mods are, all the r1 suspension and wheels are on, im working on the chain drive conversion right now its kinda giving me trouble. If i was using the stock wheelset i could buy the kit but the offset for the wider rear wheel you cant find.
WOW!
Really appreciate a test like this for guys who don’t want to mod a stock bike…great gains, Chris…174 hp on a stock bike…nothing wrong with that.
Here is a update on the Vmax and WOW!! The bike is crazy fast and pull like hell. I usually put add on to my bike in step so I don't get bored of them . Saying that have me open so a muffler and cat delete is on it way . Then I'm taking it back to tune it again. Loving the Vmax more and more with each ride .
I loves these things. I wish they would bring it back now that the peformance cruiser is a thing again. I’d definitely buy one up.
Love love love the content 🏴
I know someone that has one of these with an intake, exhaust and a tune. It’s an absolute MONSTER!!! Scary Fast!!!!
When too much HP is simply not enough = Moore Mafia !!
BTW, Love the very stealthy, super quiet exhaust on a very powerful bike...incognito speed is awesome...
Sweet. Silent...!
All he has to do is add the cat delete kit and you have a loud exhaust with the stock pipes. My 2011 VMAX screams!
Bought one of the original V - Max back in the day, wow, lm really old.
Thanks for sharing 👍, loving your tunes and vidios.
✌🏻🔑👍🤘🇨🇦😎
I had a 18000 mile 86 V Max with a Kerker exhaust, rejetted carbs, boost valve bypass so that all cylinders drew off 2 carbs all of the time, upgraded valve springs, and ignition kit with no rev limiter. It didn't sound like a motorcycle. It sounded like a super hot running V8 car. It was scary fast! I got it for $3000 when it needed some cosmetics. I spent $300 on it and some polishing time to get it looking new again. I guy who had $30,000 in his Vmax came into Ryans Steak house and Buffet for dinner when he saw and heard me ride in. We had a roll on heads up run from Ryans to next light and mine being a 1200 was as fast as his fully built 1300. I sold it for a $6500 offer and to this day I miss it something fierce. The gas mileage sucked, the best I ever got was 30 mpg, but OMG it was scary fast.
I had a 2009 VMAX that I recently sold. Akra linkage pipes (cat delete) and mufflers with stock headers, Airbox mod, K&N filter, Gurued ECU flash, PCV with a dyno tune on it, clutch upgrades from Gurued to hold the extra power. Fastest speed I saw on the Tach was 171 and my best run on the track (8th mile) was a 6.5@113 with a 1.7 60ft on Shinko Verge 011 tires. Bike had more in it since I couldn't ride it the best. Loved that bike. I already miss it.
I feel your pain, I traded my 2011 VMAX in for a 2022 Hayabusa because the trade in price was hard to turn down. VMAX value has went up a lot. I bought the bike a year ago and put 10,000 plus miles on it. I got $9000 for the trade. The fastest I got the bike was 168 mph and had to let the throttle go. I only went that fast to see if the bike had the speed restriction eliminated from the ECU flash. I couldn't believe how stable the bike was at that speed. I commuted to work on that bike too, the only negative I had was the fuel tank capacity. The best tires for that bike are the Shinko tires too, can't tell you how many times I fish tailed at a light until I got the Shinko tires.
You actually got 20 more HP (pretty good), the peak is at a different RPM. No one would think the +100 HP is just over the restricted RPM where it's falling off. The +100 HP is just clickbait.
good video but the click bait stuff made me not want to subscribe...
Is it really clickbait if it’s true though? He still made 100 more than before, just not peak. He doesn’t advertise it as +100 peak hp.
@@IndianaStreetScene Because that wording is baseline. If you find loopholes, then is click bait. If I say, "How to increase your speed with 200 km/h" then I say "You just turn the throttle, and from 0 to 200, you just increased it with 200 km/h, TADAAA. Did I technically lied?
@@IndianaStreetScene yes it is still click bait and you arguing is even more of a reason to not watch lol
@@airraptor Go ahead and Unsubscribe then
What a Snowfalke
So back in 2008, I had an 86. I had to modify the intake system to fix the previous owners mistakes. That bike spun the rear tire on a dyno at 165hp.
Great Vid! I bought a new 2020 Vmax early 2021 as a leftover. Since there were none left in the U.S. Yamaha accepted my order and shipped it from Japan and it took several months to get here because of the pandemic. 2 weeks after I placed the order Yamaha no longer took new orders so I was lucky. Other than the gas mileage the bike is absolutely amazing . I will have the ECU flashed and that's all, if I want to be loud and obnoxious I'll jump on my 08 Bking with TRE and Two Brothers CF exhaust. Both are keepers though!
Yamaha Japan ceased ALL production of VMax motorcycles in August of 2018. 2019 and 2020 models were produced prior to August of 2018, stored until inventory was finally sold off and depleted after two years.
@@painterboy454 I guess I got lucky, I was detailing it tonight and noticed the frame label ID says 12/20. Probably one of the last few left. I love this bike!
@@thomaslouis5626, yes you did!! Manufacturers are allowed to get away with "manipulating" those date codes. Suzuki did that with their 1986-1989 Cavalcade 1400 touring bike. None were manufactured after 1989 and then stock on hand was slowly sold off. You could buy a brand new 1991 model in Norway or Denmark that was actually manufactured in 1989. There are other motorcycles still in production only available in countries with virtually no emission regulations. An example is found on Suzuki's website in Kenya where they still sell the 2022 TS185ER 2 stroke dual sport, continously in production in Japan since 1969! Another example is Suzuki's GN125 cruiser. First produced in 1981 and only sold in the US for the '82 and '83 model years but it has been in continuous production since then. You can buy a brand new 2022 model in Columbia or Mexico listed on their website. By the way, I had a Hindle Exhaust on my 1987 VMax, that model year not available in the US but was here in Canada, and it sounded AWESOME!! The licence plate on that bike read ICBM standing for, InterContinental Ballistic Motorcycle, lol! Ride safe!
Chris absolutely transformed my GSX-S1000FZ. Not only is it a power monster now, it’s astonishingly smoother than it was! I can’t even feel myself shift now.
Best $$$ I’ve ever spent on my bike!
Thanks Moore Mafia!
How much did it cost?
@@joshuaeggleton2955 The ECU flash n tune is cheap for what it does for your bike. I think it was $289
Best money I’ve spent on my bike.
That bike looks awesome! I've always liked them.
This man is a whole other breed with bikes🤯🤯
I had a first gen (1991) with a full kerker system and stage 7 jet kit (155hp, 108ftp) , it was a beast but not for top speed, at around 140 the front wheel is so vague the whole bike feels like a speed boat skipping over water.
Great for the strip though and still my favorite engine sound.
One of my best friends owned an 85 VMAX. He used to do huge burnouts in front of everyone, at the lakefront where we all hung out. I'm sure he was showing off. But the thing looked & sounded so cool when it was doing it man. It had a four into one Kerker exhaust system. One time he drove it around with an open header, still four into one. That thing sounded like a stock car coming down the road. It made me always want to buy one. But I ended up buying a Yamaha MT-10 for the handling and it also sounds cool.
Back then we build a stroker engine for this vmax, it was 2100cc with some standalone ecu. I was able to push 255hp out of it, with some throttle limitation up to 5000rpm
I had a 92 bone stock Vmax with welded frame braces, solid motor mounts, and a stiffer fork brace/steering stabilizer for better handling/stability at 45mph and up. I pegged the 155mph speedo ONE time at 9500-9800 RPM. Even the old ones are fast enough stock. I changed the tail pipes to cobras for the best look and reduced jet size to compensate and it was slightly slower but it looked so cool it didnt matter since you can only ride so fast anyway.
Vmax has always been the real monster all power can only imagine this tuning would make it a tripple death machine
Way to go Chris. Hope you'll soon be able to do something with 2023 Triumph Rocket3R
I’m a current gen 1 Busa owner and LOVE my bike! However I’m 51 yrs old and starting to feel the pains lol. I’m crying for another big bore naked like the B King but one that isn’t an eye sore like it was. Chris if you have any inclination that Suzuki or Kawi is coming up with a bike bore naked let us know (if you can) so I have something new to dream about. Till then thanks for all the awesome vids from the track and your dyno room 🇺🇸
The Soundtrack is amazing
Nice job !!
These things are such beasts, with an exhuast, e85, and ram air effect i bet it would make an easy 200whp at speed
Great video, wonder if you're going to get some BMW XR's in?
I’m assuming the guy in the window is the lucky owner! Look at the grin on his face haha!! Love it! 175 smiles per hour 🤙🏻
good vid subbed
Today, just over a year, you are close to 200K subs, congratulations! Have you flashed a 1st generation 1200VMax?
Thank you!
Akrapovic has an x-pipe manifold to replace the cathalytic converter, which in it's own right weighs 10 kg's, 20 pounds..... I used one on mine 2009 Vmax 1700 together with a plug to disable the x-up valve alltogether. I kept the original mufflers ,they are just open pipes , to keep the original look, and the result was astonishing to say the least, the bike became a snoring beast tearing your head backwards, together with a new ecu it had almost 200 bhp on the dyno. Fuel consumption rose equally so I replaced the ridicilous 15 l tank with an aftermarket 22 l tank. Very complicated puzzle to get it in because every free space is used for fuel. In steat of 110 km's I could ride 200 km's till the next refuel stop, but only if you are not wringing it's neck because all that power has to come from somewhere. And still it was a very easy machine to ride, very docile, friendly, until you fully openend the throttle.
Chris i think if you got the customers reaction after the first ride would make for a great video! Just a thought!
The Max is definitely one of my favorites, definitely my favorite Yamaha.
A couple of questions, what’s the difference between getting the bike Dynoed and just adding a Vance and Hines fuelpack? Does one substitute for the other? I’m not fully clear how this part of modifying the bike. :)
👏 wow def a tamed beast! Turn it up!
If I had to get a muscle cruiser this will be it!
Another great vid mate. Is the any Triumph Rocket 3 r or gt out there needing a tune.. It would be awesome to see one those torque monsters on yr dyno
That's what I was thinking too.
Me too.
like button smashed 👊
Crazy gains. I really wanna see some in depth tuning. Like how u change fuel. Ign. And etv cells. I seen brock do some on his channel.
20 HP is a crazy gain? On what planet? The "gain" you think you saw is not real. The bike has a rev limiter he removed which got him 20 hp. That's all.
Chris you need to start getting familiar with the newer rocket 3 ecus. Us rocket 3 owners would love one of your tunes
A beast of a Bike. When possible the owner should consider a plan for a new header for its crucial for maximum VMax power.
Awesome. Can the speedo be healed with this mod? If I send in the ECU for this upgrade, is there a way to do that, or have you tried? It may be not be in the ECU, I'm not sure. My 2012 ALWAYS reads 3-5 mph faster than actual speed. Thanks!
it has been a little while since I opened it all up. The vmax being shaft driven is limited to 172 if i recall, thats pegging at 9000 rpm which I had kept that limit with Guru ecu. Stock size tire, gear, rpm 172mph it gets there quick with no waiting for it to hit single digits till 172. It you could change gearing/rpm engine would pull well past that. I will add though I think your torque numbers are low given the throttle correction etc should be around 120-130
great info.
goddamned Moore, now I gotta get one sent to you.
AWESOME!
135 to 145mph seems right for stock ecu. flashed ecu from 168 to 170mph
They make a cat eliminator pipe that let's you run the stock mufflers. Do you have a tune for this setup?
Got one love it
I had one of these in 1994 ! Total Monster 👿!
Live to hear the top speed
Even though I always love your content overall, I’ve always thought all your numbers (both baseline and in final tune) end up about 20hp low compared to many bikes I’ve seen tuned more locally or in other online venues.
Nash, the VMAX Guru, gets low 170s as a baseline. His flash and tweaks usually deliver between 193-198hp while removing top speed limiter and smoothing every rpm in every gear and eliminating rough on/off shaft-jacking from throttle transitions.
Good to see you doing your thing, but I’m always puzzled why almost all of your before/after numbers are so low.
Dynos can read that much higher or lower depending on the dyno. It's best to compare numbers on a specific dyno on the same day and time due to atmospheric deviations. Moore Mafia's dyno reads lower than most. His records speak for themselves. I just had my VMAX flashed by him. I'm a happy camper.
That things fast!
I was fueling up my bike in Golden and this V Max pulls in so naturally I went over to check it out. He had a supercharger on it - I wonder how much power that thing made!
I have a 99 Vmax with a magnacharger and 390 Holley carb done by Jon Cornell before he passed. I’ve never tuned it since I picked it up. Put it on a dyno at a local event -168HP and LOUD AF. If it’s not blown it must suck!
Jesus
I have 2 hamaha RS Warrior 1700(102) that I'm considering having done. 03 and 05 w 22k each.
What would my benefits be?
Have you ever done one of these before?
Stock bike is speed limited. I have Gurued Gear ECU flash on my 2009. No speed limiter, crazy pulling power. I would like to try the Moore Mafia tune when I find another ECU.
I own an 85 and a 94 first Gen Vmax. They are down right scary.
I would like to see you dyno/flash a Yamaha Warrior 1700.
That thing bucks like a Braman
They are a cool hot rod.
Have you ever done a star eluder and if so what were the results and where can I catch the info?
Smashing that like button the second this video starts. 😀
6.30 is fast!
My old engine tuner did 7.45 on a GSX-1000RK3
bucket list bike right there. but i doubt ill ever even see one.
id love to see a video on a gen 2 zx10r i see one old one curious to see how much power i can gain
Rode the original back in the day- loved it. This begs the question- why does Yamaha restrict (even negative the throttle) the throttle at high RPM?
To satisfy drive by noise regulations. So annoying.
Mines been Gurued plus BAZZAZ EFI 188bhp 126lb torque
I've never been over 130 on my vmax they dont have wind screens Chris!!! Lol
Needs the clutch double sprung or it’s trashed in 3rd at full power.. Go Voodoo on the exhaust and a guru flash on the ecu you will hit just short of 210 bhp.. There’s not many bikes that spin up at 95mph with a blip of the throttle..!
What is your estimation on et gains in the 1/4, or eighth on this bike in similar weather / same rider?
the godzilla of the motorcycle world indeed!
That back tire is in another Zip-Code!
135 mph on my 1995 VMax before I chickened out. Never dynoed the thing.
It was in top gear when you started it?
Couple of questions for ya:
1 Do motorcycles use OBD-2
2 Do they use similar "Chips//Modules" like automotive vehicles?
3 When you tune does the customer have to sign a waiver for damage?
Or do you have a window where from experience it's safe(ish) from damage.
Thx for the vid.
bikes dont use obd2 ports, they use adapters that connect to an obd2 reader
A couple years? The first gen went from 85 till 2003!
I may need to get one of these babies to go with my MT 10. Like sisters.
2012 VMAX. 140 mph, stock. The bike said "gimme more". But, you aren't starting it correctly. You have to wait for the RPM needle to go up and down the RPM gauge before you start it. I've had running issues by not letting needle cycle up and down the gauge. The motor runs rough if you don't start it correctly.
Can you tune for a full DAMS exhaust? On my 2020 Vmax
I need to get you my ECU soon
Chris you’re killing me man…..it’s “Theo-rhetical” not “Theory-etical.” 😄
Haha yes I was looking for this comment. Love ya Chris! 😆
I have a vmax 2009 model do you think there is restrictions in it ? I bought it from italy
Sounds like an emergency siren lol
What is the address I would send my ECU to? How much does it cost to have your work done to it.
Not to shabby from a cruiser engine cause it was originally built for the ventrua royal in the 80's..
Where's the track videos been this year? I've been really missing those.
One is about to come on NOW!!!!
He needs to look at clutch upgrades asap
Love the Vmax, but how is 153 stock to 174 tuned a 100 hp gain?
A bit of clickbait. The 100hp isn’t peak to peak. It’s from tuning out the throttle cut at high rpm. That gap was 100hp.
Dyno it in 4th...no throttle restrictions only 5th pulls throttle back.
That's like 3 Harleys.
My 87 max. Brought it to 155 mph. Header abd rejetted
What can you do with a 2020 vstrom 1050 xt ?how much does a ecu flash cost ?
Leaving that bulky, quiet stock system on this engine is a travesty.
Yep....Listen to Roland Sands Yamaha sponsored Vmaxx buildoff bike he did years back sounds like a RSV4/V8 lol
I have a full hindle on mine plus airbox mod and filter with a flash. 185 wheel and sounds like a monsters growl. Bullet proof yamaha engine, zero issues and I run it HARD daily.
Replacing it with a noisy one is worse. Good sound is not about quietness or loudness.
Nothing wrong with going 'stealth' quiet on a powerful bike...'sleepers' are awesome. It's almost like 'cop repellent'...haha
@@mycobrahatesyou Sort of like this? th-cam.com/video/BmiNnBKa85w/w-d-xo.html
Not a yamaha, but my unrestricted 03 anniversary busa would haul 2 adults to 175 very quickly. 100% stock.
I have always loved these bikes! 6 gears would be nice lol.
6 or 5, really doesn’t matter.
It doesn't need 6, I got mine to 168 mph and the motor was not stressed! Only reason I stopped giving it more throttle was because it scared me how stable it was and I had traffic coming up lol. I recently traded my 2011 with 12,000 miles for a 2022 Hayabusa, I was the second owner. It only had 2000 miles when I bought it.