How to get new FUJI film profiles on old FUJI bodies
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huh
never occurred to me I could do this
time to unlock the full potential of my x-t1
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you and yeah thank you. This is the best trick I've seen in a while!
Holy crap it works, I have Classic Negative X-E1 photos! 🤯
Amazing! I love the X-T1 and have always wished it had access to the ACROS film simulation. Thanks, Andrew!
Wow. Thank you for this tip. This will breath in some new life into my X100S. Amazing! 👍🏻
Thank you so much. I was so close to upgrade my camera body because I love the Classic Neg. You saved me so much money! 💰
Thanks. Upgrading features to older bodies via firmware was one of the reasons people because loyal to Fuji. I’ve been yelling about this for some time. If no one tells Fuji that we’ve noticed they have abandoned us and backpedaled then they won’t do anything. Probably won’t anyway, but more of us need to be pointing this change in policy out. I’ve even heard some reviewers still advertising this upgrade policy even though it seems to have been dead for some time now. Now what we get is, “minor bug fixes.”
Yup
Not that I needed a reason to shoot with my Pro-1 instead of the 2 but....wow! I'm pumped for this hack. Smashing video guys, thanks!
This works a treat. Thanks for this. I have however, managed to import indirectly into Lightroom by converting the .raf files into .dng in Iridient X-Transformer. All film simulations are available using X-T4 metadata from my X-E2. Happy Days!
Very cool! And I agree, the new profiles are definitely carrots on a stick to get you buying new bodies.
Thanks a lot Andrew, very useful!
Thanks for sharing this info Andrew. Great to know we can use the newest film simulations and flip the bird back to Fuji. Its pretty frustrating that Fuji will not just give these to us.
Wow! What a fantastic bunch of tips. Thank you so much!
I dont know if this has been said already, but if you import multiple images to Metaimage, you can command + A to select all, then do batch EXIF edits instead of having to change it for each individual image!
Great info! Thanks, Andrew!
Great Vlogging Andrew. Thank you. I’m not sure wether my clunky old pc can run Capture One efficiently as yet. Stopped shooting raw in 2018 when I switched to Fuji. I like to get it right in camera as much as possible. Anyway I came across this Classic Negative look for the Xtrans3 sensor based on the Classic Chrome simulation via Jean Pascal Remon archives - all credit to him. Pity that Fuji don’t have a firmware update even for the Xtrans3 cameras.
Exiftool on the command line works great for batch changing exits info in place. Also free and never crashes. Used this to change my X-T30 files to X-T3 when the newer camera was not yet supported by darktable.
Awesome, I just got an X-M1 body very cheap. This will come handy :P. Thanks Andrew.
Hi Andrew, I've followed your channel for a while, really love your videos. I was wondering if you'd thought about making a video talking about the differences between the film profiles, what you like/dislike about each one, and what you use them for, or how you use them as starting points for edits. This is something I'm really interested in hearing other photographers thoughts on, and I really love your style because I feel it's similar to how I like to shoot so would love to hear what your favorite/least favorite profiles are.
Awesome work flow. Thanks!!!
Great tip, thank you 🙂
always the most useful channel for Fuji users 👌 This is really gonna help out those Fuji users rocking old school bodies
Great hack, sometimes it’s the simply and obvious things that work. Great find, thanks for sharing 📷👍
I'll have to give this a try for my XT1. It drives me crazy that you can't get Classic Chrome in Capture One even though the profile is in camera.
Wow this hack is just wow bro.. I have an old XT-10 and now I can unlock its full potential.. Thank you so much!! You better watch out though, those Fujifilm guys might come and get you LOL
I didn't know this exists! Found a XE2 for pretty cheap, this is golden!
Omg I am totally going to try this. I thought it was so annoying how we didn’t have access to the newer film simulations.
Bout to have some fun with Acros and Classic Chrome in my X-Pro 1 files. Super exciting. :) thanks, Andrew!
what kind of camera you set up on exif file for x-trans I sensor? I have xe1 with the same sensor and going to play with it asap. Thank you in advance.
Thanks for that. Really useful to know 😉
Thanks. This is useful.
Thank you very much!
Wow thanks!
I have always wanted to try ACROS on my X70, will definitely be trying this out.
Did u get the look u wanted of acros. Would love to hear ur settings. Tia
@@SP-tp7pw Well, yes it looks really good. But as changing the EXIF data for each individual is a bit of a hassle, I started experimenting with the in-camera presets more.
I"m still using Capture One 12 express and by default I get "Eterna" profile (which was available on XT3 and camera that came after) for my XT20 files. Coming back to the topic of changing the exif data, I go by iridient X-transformer. There is actually an option in IXT for you to change the model type when you are converting from RAF to DNG. There are at least 2 benefits using this. 1) You don't need to mess up the exif data of the original RAF files. 2) Iridient X -Transformer helped take care of the demosaic issue X-Trans files has with LR after the files are converted to DNG format.
Great video !!!! Please keep us updated if there is some new trick !!
nice tutorial, knew about c20 film simulations, but didn't have another fuji camera to try it out... awesome =)
Thanks for that.
THANKS FOR THIS!!
Fantastic Idea!!!!!
Great video. Great content. It's awesome!!!!
Such a simple idea, how didn't I think of this... it's so obvious!
Thanks a lot Andrew. Your experience helped me. I really like Classic negative, but fujifilm xe3 does not. And I want the photos to match my fujifilm Xpro-3 camera. To make my photos look harmonious on Instagram. And I did it. Cool! 😜👍🏻
Haha... Beach.. I think you need some holidays! :) great tip!! Thank you! I create a bleach bypass effect by doing a double exposure. Of course it's not the same but for me the in camera process it's more important.. 🙏🙌
Hey, thanks for video. I've tried to change the data of a RAF file shot with my x-pro2 two and then tried to convert in camera in my x100v, didn't work. Any idea how to solve this?
Exif can be changed by Exiftool if you use the terminal or GraphicConverter for the mac, is an oldshool excellent software for the mac that has existed since System 7. It works in forever tryoutmode if you don't want to purchase a license.
When we had the Oakland hills fires in the 1980's since I lived close to Mission Dolores in S.F. whenever there was some action on the weekend, it was very easy to check it out. A yearly Madonna procession came through, lots of Latino faces, lots of flower wreaths, but because if the smoke in the air, the shots I took all looked like a very strong, very rich VPS negative look. It's really beautiful, and something that should be a challenge for Fuji shooters to create a setting for.
Heresy? No way. What a great piece of info!
Good video stage and lighting and audio.
@AndrewGoodCamera Circling back 3 years later lol, but does using capture one mean the film simulations will be available straight on camera or that I can just apply the new simulation in post?
Is there a good way to bulk do the C1 Exif trick? For example, cull photos then apply presets in C1, then maybe export them as a Tiff file to Lightroom? I use LR on an iPad so the C1 way seems a long winded route.
Also I winder why you can’t also fool Lightroom with the exif trick.
Followed all of your instructions but in Capture One Express for Fuji, none of the ICC profiles you show are available. I only see, for any of the Generic ICC camera profiles I apply, just Auto, Film Extra Shadow, Film High Contrast, Film Standard and Linear Respose. Is this because in order to see the full range of ICC profiles for any camera you need to buy the full version?
After edit the exif data of X100T to X-T4 by the software recommend by you in macbook pro，the Lightroom Classic cannot input the said file😓😓😓
So would you recommend this over a X100V even as a low-key street shooter style camera?
thank you, what applications do you use for windows?
There’s a guy who publishes a weekly newsletter called Fuji X Weekly. He gives film simulation recipes for older Fuji Cameras and shows you how to set them in the camera settings. Not only the Fuji simulations but also some Kodak film simulations. They really are quite good and it’s much easier to have them in Camera than to do the post processing. Are use his formula for chrome on my ex pro one and I really like it. You should check him out.
th-cam.com/video/GR9dzr60EXQ/w-d-xo.html
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Andrew & Denae Nice!
Love the Gordie Howe hat... 😂
I have X-H1 and CaptureONE full license on win10. As soon as I change the metadata of the RAF file, CaptureONE doesn't detect it anymore (can't import, can't preview)... any ideas ?
edit : so I tried with CaptureONE express 20 , and it works... I gues you need the latest CaptureONE in order for this to work
I have tried out Fujifilm XT-1 Film curves on my Sony A7II and It works. I now wonder If I can get more film simulations to work for the XT-1 then they should work on Sony also?
I downloaded xt3 raw files and set the profile to camera matching with any film profile. I then save the adjustment as a preset and name it after the film simulation. Use it on canon files with varying degrees of success. Maybe it would work great on a real Fuji camera
I got to know that I can use the Capture One by unpacking x-t4 and finding Capture One brochure there. And it says that camera purchase is coming with Capture One. They don't verify purchase when allow you to download, so the other way to ensure you've purchased a camera is to check the metadata.
Thank you for all info .. Can you suggest a metadata app for window users ..
yes - i love fujifilm "BEACH BODY" film simulation :D - really gets my models to have that beach body look magically :P
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Hi dude , do you know if it works also for video ? Can I apply a Fuji film sim on a drone movie ?
Good but what would be really nice would be being able to import jpeg adjustments to the raw on Capture One so one starts editing from similar point the incamera-cooked jpeg is.
Do you know a way of doing it? Are there standard equivalences/styles on Capture One to the incamera jpeg adjustments? (Example: +1 exposure on camera = +0,5 exposure and +2 brightness con Capture One) That would be soooo useful for some of us. One spends hours creating incamera profiles and sometimes is very tricky and time consuming to replicate on Capture One.
Cheers
Thanks for this. Much appreciated. Understand that it won't work in LR but if you use MetaImage to change the exif data then import to Capture One Express, apply the profile you want and export it, can that new file then be imported to LR with the profile baked in?
No idea. Let me know if you find out though!
Am I missing something? I have Capture One Pro, so maybe that is the difference, but on my X-T2 RAW files I can see and use the film simulations like Eterna that are not native to my camera... Maybe it's because the free version doesn't let you do it?
can i do this same process for x100v pics to get the new nostalgic negative comes with the latest gfx?
thank you for the effort and the sharing. i am longtime subscriber to your YT channel. but i remain a fuji newbie so i apologize for the obvious question: in order to paste the newer profile EXIF data, do you need a newer fuji camera to access that EXIF data? if no newer camera is needed, how/where would i access the newer EXIF data? i have a newly acquired X100T (wonderful tool!) and I very much would welcome some version of Eterna. any and all thoughts are appreciated. stay well. thumbs up.
Nope. Just write it into the editor like I did here. I just copied pasted out if convenience.
I dont have any XT-4 files to copy the sofrware version from, and when i tried entering it manually as i saw it in the video it didn’t work. Any clues? Please help me
Thanks :)
Good!!!
does this work with other cameras' brands as well? Sony, Canon, etc? tks.
I’m a little late to the video! Do you know if this would work with the X-T100 with the Bayer sensor?
Love a good hack 🕵
Very cool tip.
_cries in X-T1_
I use an exiftool script for this, but it works similar indeed. Only difference is that I process them using SilkyPix Pro (v10 currently), but the principle stays the same.
this is good to know, capture one fuji doesn't support the older bodies so all the film profiles for the files I shot with my xe2 didn't look right because I didn't have access to the classic chrome profile anymore
I still have my xt 2, so, without having the xt4 how do I get those profiles you entered in Metalimage? Thank you for the input!
Just type them. :)
is this possible to unlock these profiles for a sony camera? or others?
I have been doing this with command line and Capture one for a while now. Just make sure you keep a copy of RAF file before you make changes to exif data. Because may you want to edit same file in Adobe Photoshop later, photoshop will not recognize it and you will receive an error message ( at least that is the case for me)
Cool. The "not enough processing power" is a total copout. It's just a profile. When Classic Neg came out I made a preset, style and LUT that duplicated it verbatim. It's not some fuji rocket science. It's just a color LUT more or less.
the "not enough processing power" usually refers to Camera processor for IN camera baking.
This is
Hard to believe that Acros requires more "processing power" than any color profile.
@@scottparis6355 You do understand how color conversions work, right.
Just because it is B&W doesn't mean it's that simple, it's essentially a more intense process than "any other color profile".
Billions of colors (taking 14bit color information these cameras have into account) ALL have to be converted into a specific point in the gray scale, and not a variation of its color already captured in standard color profiles. No, THIS is a complete translation of light coming thru the filter array... think about it.
That is a lot of math data conversion taking place in each pixel.
Now add the red, green and yellow filter versions that Acros and others ship with and you quadrupled all that process power.
This not only happens with Acros but also with other B&W modes as well as other color profiles.
The more you know.... you're welcome.
Yeah this always made me laugh. So the x-t3 can shoot and process 10bit H.265 4K internally but can’t process a few new film simulations. 😅
Chevy-Jordan Thompson We all know that the processors of the X Series bodies are super slow...
You can also get the film simulations for darktable, for my experience they are not completely accurate but they give a good approximation of the look. For darktable they are called styles and the advantage is that they can be applied to any camera, no need to change the RAF metadata.
You lose less image details applying those film simulations in RawTherapee than in Darktable
@@peasantrobot Never use raw therapee that much but i'll take a look ... thanks
@@jpopenimage Here are the film simulations for the RawTherapee rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Film_Simulation
And here X-Trans simulations for the same program blog.sowerby.me/fuji-film-simulation-profiles/
@@peasantrobot Thanks
I tried some similar aoftware for windows. i could edit the exif data but Capture One didn't offer the simulations. I used X70 files and copied the exif from X-T20 files. no success with captue one 21 😭
Any help or suggestions?
There is free EXIF tool called ExifTool by Phil Harvey, it's a command line executable, you can download GUI interface called ExifToolGUI and pair with ExifTool make it more user friendly. I did use it to change my X-T10 raw file's EXIF to X-T2, the edited file can be open in C1 Pro and RAW FILE CONVERTER EX 3.0 powered by SILKYPIX. Film simulation like ARCOS, CLASSIC NEG, and ETERNA will appear and can be choose to apply. But the edited file can't be imported into Lightroom.
I can tell you that the work it would take Fuji to adjust new film simulation profiles for older sensors is negligible.
They will put more work into the X-T5 as nobody would pay for some stupid profiles.
interesting, so does that work with non-fuji raw? Maybe it only works on the x-tran sensors, instead of the bayer ones.
Looks like the camera name is more important than the actual software line, since the latter file capture one changes that software line, so it doesn't appear that it is using the software metadata to restrict the ICC profiles. Very interesting either way, don't think I need the other profiles but definitely good to know it can be done.
It only works on xtrans
@@AndrewGoodCamera Funny enough I always find it weird C1 give my XT30 Classic Negative which came out with the XPro-3 and is not in camera.
Oh wow. Awesome. I'll try it!
I can get beach bypass and classic negative on my xt3 in capture one without changing the exif
Hi, I have a Fujifilm X-T10 and do you know why after adding photos you can do Capture One Express in "ICC Profile" instead of my camera name is "sRGB Color SPace Profile"?
okay, never mind. The photo must be taken in RAW
is it possible this doesn't work with Lightroom (classic, latest version)?
Oh wow, can't wait to see how my original x100 files look with these! It should work just the same in Lightroom though, no?
Nope. Unfortunately there is no way to do it on LR.
@@AndrewGoodCamera strange, I thought it only looks at the Metadata too to unlock the profiles... well, one reason more to switch. :)
I have the X-T30, changed both camera model and software to X-T4, using ExifTool. Imported into Capture One 13.1.2 and it still processes it as X-T30(no bleach bypass).
Perhaps something changed so this trick will no longer work...
UPDATE: You need to change your original file name. If you keep the same name as the one the camera gives it, Capture one still sees it as that camera. For verification, I changed it back to the original name, re-imported it, and it recognized the original camera again.
Also, I found that this particular raw file was edited once before I did any of this. When I tried the video trick on an image that I never imported before, it worked just as the video showed.
Anyway, if editing the metadata doesn't work, try rename the file.
This is really nice to know. However, my biggest problem with the missing Film simulations is, that some very capable cameras, like the X E3, can't shoot video in Eterna. And since Flog is obviously not an option either (to apply eterna in post like with stills here), that's a real bummer to me. =/
Used X-H1 are dirt cheap
This is very interesting, thanks! Do you know of a similar software for Windows? I tried a couple in the past, but they were command line only and not very user-friendly at all....
I don't. But there's gotta be some out there
@@AndrewGoodCamera Thanks. I'll have another look, and if I find any I'll let the hive know :-)
@@alex.mathioudakis exiftool
is there windows version of metaimage? or any similar app for windows? I've tried Photo Exif Editor from exifedit(dot)com, but not working for RAF file
Exiftool
Can you suggest a metadata app for window users which does the same job as Metaimage?My camera is Fuji X-100S
hey idk if you found one or not but i used metadata++ for windows. its free and easy to use but crashes a lot. I was in the same boat and it took me hours to just find one...
The only reason why I don't use my original X100 or my X-pro1 is I don't get the Acros and Classic Chrome film simulations so this would be perfect for me. The thing is after watching this I'm lost 😕 but thanks anyway!
Does this work with fujifilm x raw studio?
i Did all your steps, but some thing wrong at last step on Capture one " Unable to create proxy. The image file may be damaged or otherwise unable to load."
Is nice, BUT, I just open capture one and you can change the ICC Profile inside of Capture One and get all the film simulators.
So much for Kaizen.
Yeah, over the last 5 years I have noticed a whole lot less Kaizen going on over at Fuji. They seem to be taking the example of Canon as far as fragmenting features across models.
This is great!! So.........couldn't I do this with any camera? I have a Sony A7R3. Surely if I just edited my pictures' EXIF to say X-T4........... Maybe I should just try it and see what happens!