How Accurate are Capture One's Fujifilm Film simulations?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2020
- Stuck indoors. Examining Capture One's Film Sims. I spent $269 on Capture One 11 and $149 on a Capture One 12. Had to download the free Capture One Express to read the new X100V files as they are not supported on older versions. Booooo....
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Omar, you added some fun to my otherwise boring day! Please do the LR comparison-maybe a three-way comparison with jpeg, LR and C1.
I just LOOOOOVE your sens of humour 🥰 thanks for sharing this with all of us during these rough times 😘
thank you for the video. i always wanted to do this comparison but never got *that* bored to do it. keep up the good work!
Thanks for the video. It was a nice surprise in my inbox. I have started using Capture One for all my photo work. I find that the Fujifilm simulations work very well for me. I shoot both jpeg and raw at the same time. The jpeg ends up being more of a preview than an end result. I like working in raw for the extra latitude in processing. Keep up the great content and try to stay sane, Omar!
Great vids Omar! You really are doing your part!
I really like your work, stuff, thing 😁 I keep comming back, even though sometimes I don't have the time for it. Much fun. Thank you!
Thanks for keeping the content coming! From BC Canada
great combo of info and fun! thanks
Again, another excellent video!!!! You Rock!!!!
Excellent video 😊!
I'd love a capture ine tutorial if you could spare the time. My wife and I just started getting into photography with an xt30 and so far your video explanations click the most for me. Thank you very much for your content.
fantastic comparison, finally someone makes this video.
You’re the best! Thanks. I was wondering where to find that on Capture One. Stay healthy and dancing!
Thanks for the video. I just checked out my Capture One 20, and there is the option to use Classic Negative with my XT3 files. Pretty cool since the profile isn't available as an in camera profile. Just thought I would share. Thanks again for all the great videos.
Keep it up Omar! Coronafree Greets from Belgium! 🤘
I feel you on that Provia love, I'm an Astia shooter primarily, with Provia in the back for sunsets since Astia does not show much range of pink. However, I set up a Velvia profile for my trip to Japan, and I haven't looked back yet. I don't know what it is. If it's the light, the Japanese colour aesthetic or what, but I haven't touched any of my old faithful profiles in a month, and to me, that's exciting.
Haha, I don't think I've ever seen you slap yourself before! Well done, keep em comin! 🙌😄
Thanks! Great video.. I am also curious about LR. And maybe another video talking about the free and paid version of Capture One? I am a bit greedy I think but that is because you make great videos! Keep up the good work. Its always fun to watch you.
Hi Omar, Not only does C1 an excellent job with the Fujifilm simulations on the RAF files, it also renders them without any wormy artifacts. These two are the main reason for me why I switched from LR to C1. Lot’s of greetings, Dennis 🇳🇱
The corona quarantine sucks but at least we get to see Omar more often.
Great timing Omar! I just downloaded the free 30 day trial on C1
I switched two years ago...love the color editor, layers, and how it treats Fuji files
Amazing video!
If you shoot RAW+JPG and your curve is set to Auto in C1, upon import all your RAW files will automatically have the curve that you shot in applied. I was surprised once that all my RAWs were appearing B&W in C1 upon importing, until I made the connection that I was shooting in Acros and had my Curve set on Auto.
The colours match well in this type of scenes, but I find that for portraits, and when using dynamic range features in camera, the jpgs either look a bit weird or much better than the raw with profiles applied, and it's then very hard to get to the same look in c1. Typically skin color and shine removal on the face is magic in camera and requires massive work in c1.
One more nice thing of Capture One Fujifilm Express: I can use the new film simulations ( classic negative) even with my XT3 !
Funnily enough, from the point i put x-h1 files in captureone, i was able to use Eterna on my xt2 files.
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This comment is what I need! Thank you! Now Express is more than enough for me. I want to try C1 without buying it.
@@Jidccruz use the express to convert the raw, then right click > edit in photoshop for deeper edits
Sure is nice to have that flexibility when shooting in RAW. That ending got me shuffling to get some coffee haha
That PRS is gorgeous :)
On this matter, I can upvote that CaptureOne yields the best JPG from your RAW files.
I found that the Lightroom processed JPGs always have this almost like "cotton-candy" texture, which is very nasty.
By the way, nice Taylor and PRS guitars. Please showcase your skill some time.
Also thanks for including my portrait photo in your last video on "Lighting"! Your review is thorough and funny 😊😊
Does anyone know what the paid versions of Capture One add to the freebie one? Pretty new to processing and was curious if there's any utility in me upgrading while still at a very basic level.
There are a lot of missing features. Capture One website has a comparison between Express and Pro features. I can't do all of my color toning in Express and require the advanced color toning only available in Pro.
This video came up because I was searching generically for info comparing LR and C1. But, glad I watched it again because it's good to know the sims match so well. I've been using the free version of C1 and wondered if it was worth getting a subscription or not. Plus was wondering what features you don't get in the free version. BTW, is that a PRS Custom? Sweet guitar!
Hi Omar, does the camera need to be connected to the pc which has Capture One Express in order for it to show all the film simulations?
Yes, lightroom please! And that was my first - possible only - laugh of the day!
I recently switched back to Lightroom so that I can use it across different devices. Plus the new Lightroom is easier to use for a novice/semi-pro like me. I noticed that I could not get the raw files to look like the jpegs straight out of camera. The jpegs were able to capture a lot more detail in highlights such as a window in the background. I also noticed a lot of color variance in my favorite profile Astia Soft. I would love to see what you could do in complex lighting situations in Lightroom.
LOVE your videos. Do I have to "buy" the full version to access any of these film simulations through the Express program? HELP.
My older lightroom (6.14) doesn't recognize my camera raws from x-t100. I just convert them to dng before importing. Has a double bonus of smaller file sizes.
Love your sense of humour and style. Also love that PRS in the background! You play?
A little...I don't have a band or anything. :)
Help.I have one camera. The XT2 and will stick with it for some time.Which Capture thingy software should I get? Thanks!
Hi Omar, why do you have the same tools twice in a tool tab? twice the Color editor, twice the white balance tool etc?
Nice video! You should also mention and try Fujifilm’s free Raw Studio. Since you teather the camera to your PC, it uses your actual camera to do the conversion. Seems interesting to me. Unfortunately, it doesn’t support my old XT1.
What a beautiful Taylor guitar. Is it the GS Mini Koa? I couldn't concentrate on the comparisons because I couldn't let my eye off the Taylor.
Nice Taylor & PRS there Omar
@Omar Gonzalez Photography, It is raining here in DC today, so I am learning the Capture 1 for Fuji. At the same time, I am watching your video!
What’s funny is as a Fuji shooter when I work with raw files I never use the Fuji simulations. I use film simulations by RNI, Luminar 4, NIK Silver Efex, Topaz B&W Effects2, and Exposure X5.
Have you ever tried bayer sensor fuji's XT200 100? Are they less waxy in lightroom?
My experience was completely opposite. Classic chrome straight from my x-t30 looks oh so good but when I apply classic chrome to the RAW of the same photos in both Capture One and Lightroom they appear way too punchy and contrasty. Also, the camera seems to process bakcgrounds very differently when compared to foregrounds. This boggled my mind. What if I shoot in provia and want acros or eterna or even pro neg later on? having the RAW file doesnt seem to help here! I am in panic. Help Omar. I trust you.
Just coming to grips with Capture One 20 and one thing I am finding out is that not everything is burned into the RAW. Also just learning the customizations in my new XT-3. Using a custom Velvia with the new D neg thing that brings up shadows the RAW was way off. Took about an hour to get the RAW looking very close to the jpeg. One thing I had to do was push the saturation a bunch which surprised me. If you are shooting straight film simulations without modifying other custom settings then think they look pretty close. Their camera raw program will let you do any style jpeg using the camera processor and it’s free. You can also reprocess any raw with just the camera using any settings you want to make a new jpeg.
thank you 🙌
Awesome, just awesome
love the look of classic chrome
was just looking into this! the biggest difference i noticed was the vignetting on the raw image that needed to be tweaked using lens correction. after i learned how to do that, the raw and jpg looked nearly identical !
Did you update your CO 12 to the latest version?
Could you make the same video with Light Room? Where can I downlod a package of all Fuji film simulations for Light Room?
Do you use capture one for all of your Fuji photos or do you prefer Lightroom instead?
If you press Shift when you zoom or move the image, both do the same. It's easier when you are comparing photos.
Thanks for continuing doing these videos.
Rafael Vida that’s helpful thanks!!
Great video on the comparison Omar. Are you using capture one for Fuji now? I am still trying to learn capture one since I have used LR for years. Nice PRS by the way! 👍🏻
I go back and forth. Was going to use some of this indoor time to get a better grasp of C1 and customize the "cockpit" to my liking.
Yes, please do a comparison between C1 and LR.
Can you please make that capture 1 vs lightroom comparison for Fuji RAW files as well as trying out the film simulations? I mean we are stuck indoors anyway haha. I appreciate it in advance!
Nice video and dance! :D
Hi Omar, does fuji's cameras get more film simulations with firmware updates or we have to stick with the film simulations we get when buying the camera? I mean we'll never see Classic neg on a fuji x-t3 in camera jpeg speaking even with firmware updates?
We might but we don’t know yet. You can apply it in Capture One 20 for the XT3.
You have very Very VERY good guitars!
Droolin’ over the acoustic! Is that KOA Wood? Wow! And was that little clip you on the guitar?
Yes, Koa Taylor. Love it...deep boomy wood. :)
Hi Omar. In your future video I mentioned the FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO app that lets you change the film simulations on the RAW files after you’ve taken them. Seems like this video is a better place to ask if you had experience with it. It’s free and the conversion is done back on the camera, so you get all the original Fuji goodness. Would like to know your thoughts. Thanks again for your great videos!
hello Omar. first of all i would like to say thank you for all your videos. I have a question. Unfortunately in my country we don't have any professional photo or video store, where you can go see, take it in your hand and feel it or to rent a camera use it to understand how you feel about it. The only way for me to figure it out is watching channels like yours, but in the and even this can not help that because on paper the specs looks amazing but what about real life usage? I am a professional food photographer and i really like Fuji cameras and i would like to buy one but here is the think, when i look to the specs fuji x-t3 or x-t4 they are great cameras, because they have top photo or video specs, but in my case i don't need crazy video specs 4k or what ever, or crazy high frame rate. 99% i shoot photo. So question is what can you say or advice about fuji x-t20 or x-t30 for professional work? photo quality? As a food photographer sometimes i use natural light and tripod with bounce cards and all that stuff and 90% studio lights with different modifiers as it should be. what i am trying to do not to spend a lot of money for the camera which has a lot of unnecessary options for me which i am not going to use for professional work and buy for example x-t30 and the rest of the money spend for a good lenses instead of buying x-t4 paying 1700$ for just a body and same amount of money for the lens. what do you think or will you advice???
Did Capture One obtain these film simulations from Fujifilm? Can one apply these simulations to RAW files from non Fujifilm cameras?
Hi Omar, I'm using a laptop (windows). Do you think I should switch to Mac (apple) for a better photo editing? Thanks
Noels Gambit No need to. Same. I’d say a good monitor is more important
Nice. Since the hacks came out I have been using Classic Negative on C1 and LR (on my Xtrans II camera) and definitely prefer C1's version. Its good to know that it is pretty much the same as the real thing, so it's not a reason to upgrade.
Hello Omar. Is Capture One only available on mac/pc? I can’t seem to find an app for it. Thanks and stay safe :)
No app. Only desktop software. That's why many people stick with LR...LR Mobile for on the go.
One thing I didn't realise was that C1 does not support Fuji film simulations for the X-T10 and most of my photos (until recently) are shot with that camera. I figured this out only after I purchased the one-time license. Kind of made me sour on them.
Anyone knows if we can find those Fuji film simulations out of the Pro version ?
I would love to see the Lightroom comparison
Hi Omar, noob to color science here. I was trying to look for more guidance on film simulation for Fuji, I do love how Classic Chrome, Film Simulation and Classig Neg look, but it would be nice an explanation on what circumstances to shoot those (and other film sims). For example, I know you need to be careful with classic chrome when shooting people (generally) because white skin will look more pale and stuff like this would be great. Could not find any decent video explaining this more in depth so I thought of my favorite photo/dad haha. Cheers.
May I suggest you also do a video comparing shooting jpeg and converting Raw files into jpegs using the Fuji x raw software. Thanks
Fuji claims the X Raw Studio uses the camera’s processor to do the conversion.
Omar could you do a comparison of raw file colors between your xt20 and x100v in both Lightroom and capture one. I have heard that in lightroom the colors look identical between the old and new cameras and in capture one the colors look different. Much thanks. Stay healthy my friend
I'll check it out. Thanks!
The C1 example mirrors what I see from other softwares, too. You don't always _need_ a subscription, but they soon cripple the software pretty much each year by leaving it for dead.
The math seems to be that subscriptions do cost more in the long run, but the standalone purchases are never as inexpensive as they promise, either. You can also save a ton of money on food by not eating it every day ... you're free to do so ... but then a new problem arises.
By the way. The Curve. If you leave everything as it was on import and "Curve" shows Auto, then C1 will auto select same simulation as used in camera. Try shooing same background and swap between velvia and eterna simulation in camera. You will then see that C1 will auto pick the simulation used in camera.
Do the LR one Omar. Gives you something to do and me something to watch :)
Great video, capture one express doesn’t recognize my x100v, help
I'd like to see RAW vs Acros with grain jpeg comparison. Does LR or CaptureOne Express handle grain differently?
John Keiffer they do. Search my channel for GRAIN!!
In my opinion the Fujifilm ACROS in-camera film simulation has ISO noise that looks like nothing else. I heard a photographer consistently used Capture One's Fuji profiles and RAW for color but for black and white he always just used the In camera ACROS JPEGs because the noise and tonality was much more beautiful.
Hello if someone reads this, I have the free version of Capture One for Fujifilm users and I can't find the film simulations anywhere (checked the ICC profile already). Where are they?
You might have an older version. Update...OR...you're looking at a jpeg file.
@@ogonzilla thanks for the reply Omar but as it turns out the film simulation options are only available for pictures taken with the X-Trans sensor rather than the Bayer one😢
Stunning acoustic guitar... 😉
Been watching you since 2017. I feel like I know you / your family! Please keep you / your family safe and healthy. For content, can i suggest an explanation on ETTR -- specifically how can I tell when I'm past the point of no return and about to blow out my highlights? I know the histogram is there to help, but honestly that thang confuses me!
The Newman Files I’m not sure I’m the expert. I just make sure I expose for the highlights
Basic idea:
Bracket some images, say 5 with 1/3 EV adjustments. Make a note of which one is the "best starting point," either in-camera or later in computer.
Long version:
Now look at those same 5 images in FastRawViewer and see which one of the 5 is actually best exposed, absent of any jpeg previews that by definition must present a misleading histogram. The one more fully (and safely) exposed will probably appear "worse" than the rest initially, but that's because jpeg previews are made to look "acceptable" at the expense of potentially crushing shadows and blowing highlights ... in other words if you fix the midtones and contrast yourself (easy) a better-exposed image won't need highlights recovered or shadows fixed because they weren't wrong to begin with, within the context of the camera's dynamic range.
It's not a converter, but in some ways a competitor to Photo Mechanic (for culling .. you can tag and choose some basic exposure/WB adjustments so that your raw converter picks all that up from the XMP sidecar files it makes.) You can also use it to cull out of focus images because it's got focus peaking.
Anyway, what that app does is only look at the raw file, NEVER the embedded jpeg that sits in every raw file. The histogram you get from the back of a camera, or from within something like Lr or Capture One is basing initial "exposure" on the embed jpeg ... which could be quite wrong actually, and creates a look that emphasizes how midtones look to interpret "over/under" exposure. That could cause you to think you overexposed ... when you didn't!
The examples they give in videos and such are for a typical scene that was bracketed. If you go by the camera's or Lightroom's (for example) histogram, you could pick the wrong "best" version and begin editing that one, _instead_ of the image that truly was exposed more fully within the limitations of the camera's dynamic range.
They show some amusing examples of histograms created from jpeg previews (which by definition must include WB and tone interpretations/adjustment, hence the problem ... ) and according to that the image can look in the histogram to be simultaneously over and under exposed!
@@thenexthobby Thank you for taking the time to respond! This will take some time to practice / sink in but we all have alot of time on our hands. Thanks again, and stay safe.
Funny thing about supporting new camera RAW is X100V has the SAME censor and the SAME processor as X-T3&30 and softwares still don't support the files unless you upgrade to a new version. How creative is that? :D
푸들엘리 임태현 right???? Crazy
The problem is that the software uses camera names to set how it should behave and what defaults to use and when the name is not found, it just fails. If you would change the camera name in the EXIF (and other places in the metadata) to X-T3 for example, it would probably work fine.
Of course the software manufacturers don't want to change this as it is beneficial for them.
You can change in the EXIF the camera model :-)
Would love to see the comparison on LR buddy, thanks you and stay safe
You too!
I bought and installed ON1, did you ever tryied it?
No. Whatta ya think? How is it?
Please do the LR version as well! Thanks
0:57 Just to be clear. It's not that they remove camera support from V12 and older software, you have to upgrade software if you keep upgrading equipment, and this is basically same as Adobe if you break down the subscription model - or Luminar. You said they forget you after one year and I'm not completely on that page, because they will continue to support you many many years after you have purchased a version ;) That said, I could easily had V10 or even V9 still if it wasn't for my X-T3 without paying any upgrades between then and now. It's a users choice and not their problem if you upgrade equipment ;)
1:07 - A simple gag but made me laugh way too much
Do it! Compare everything 👊🏽
What do you think of RawTherapee?
never tried.
I just came for the dance at the end.
Here is a good video idea. Compare iPhone mic preamps using a app called MOTIV vs Fuji x-t20 or your Sony 6400 pre amps. Use your Rhodevideomicro please.
Am I the only one that thinks that in-camera and in Capture One, that Acros has a slightly brown tint to it?
Please do capture-one express tutorial
How about acros?
Ya I've been a C1 user for years, unfortunately, I am using older non supported computers. So, sadly, I can't use C1 for my work with the Fuji XT 20 I just recently bought for my new work. Ugh!
Stinks. Some people say convert the files to DNG's...that's a lot of work.
Lightroom comparison please :)
How about a full C1 EXPRESS series? We've time... No more that TWO person gatherings on streets, anywhere, any time. This is Germany now...
the auto cruve in C1 will give you the same settings that you uset in camera.. 😏😎
thanks, i was about to add that comment. Wish C1 would download that value, as sometimes i play in camera and can't remember which one i had...
@Todd Jones The Curve. If you leave everything as it was on import and "Curve" shows Auto, then C1 will auto select same simulation as used in camera.
Hi, I have a question.
If I use one of those fujixweekly recipes, will they be reflected on the auto curve?
What about comparing with the real film VS Jpeg ?
Julien Taming I don’t shoot film. :)
Make the video! A Heineken for you, no corona.