Sounds like a deck building issue. Probably needs body snatcher instead of sleeper or another outlet.. There is a reason the database list is on body snatcher
Everyone's complaining about the Hulk turn - meanwhile I'm just here thinking the game was over the moment Alana bounced the Seedborn. I understand the urge because the Thrasios-player was grinding big value. But you also just tricked the only other blue player into tapping out while two rather explosive decks are about to untap. Maybe bouncing Thrasios was the call here, if you really wanted to slow them down.
Corey *really* needed a Blood Pet in the deck. If he in fact had Cauldron Familiar in hand the last Hulk pile could have found it, sac'd it, then played the cat to win the game on the spot. Dunno what cuts would need to be made for that but woof. So close!
@@True_Ronin Looking at the decklist Cauldron Familiar was the only way the deck wins through with Samwise. Thus it being in hand is awkward. I gather he was hoping to make it to his next turn, hence all the disruption, to then win but the Fury broke his back.
@@RLKC8 No Lotus Petal no. It has Mox Diamond and Chrome Mox but during the "winning" turn its doubtful he had another land or a black card for either 0 mana artifact.
@@criscomp5486 No it doesnt, there are cards that exist to cover these edge cases such as body launderer or body snatcher. The cat pile is also much worse than the breakfeast lines for tymna thras hulk
@@criscomp5486 You either don't keep a 7 with a combo piece in it (if you really only have one Hulk pile in your deck) or you include Body Snatcher in your deck. Either way this situation should not be able to happen if you're running a well built Hulk deck.
I understand wanting to only run good cards in TNT, but I feel like game one makes a strong argument for having some backup win plan for old protein hulk
I was wondering that too... Doesn't Samwise, Carrion Feeder, and Cauldron Familiar make a winning line? I get the familiar was in hand but you'd think that paying B to win the game after hulking would be your priority
Samwise Gamgee has made the best new hulk line because you can get him with Cauldron Familiar, a 1 cmc sac outlet (normally Viscera Seer or Carrion Feeder), and Grand Abolisher. If you send your hulk to the graveyard and grab these cards that means it is game over most of the time.
About 14:40 It's turn 2 - there's a player with all of their life, and then there's a players with only one life remaining. I don't understand any criticism against cEDH. It's absolutely amazing.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for explaining! I looked through the decklist and found Chrome Mox the only fast mana in an Ouphie deck which I found reasonable. What didn't help was the lack of protection pieces like Sylvan Safekeeper or more fast mana like Lotus Petal. I'm trying to figure out why they didn't just wait, especially since Abolisher had to die, opening the table up to interact during the Hulk line.
Where can I find stickers like the ones they are using in this video? Is there a gaming accessory company that makes them? Do they just grab em from the store? I plan on making Malcom/vial smasher and have lots of cards I’m going to be swapping between decks so I want to get in on this.
do I just not see something or shouldn't a single Hulk sac always result in a win, unless somehow stopped? he even got 2 and then just made some random food tokens when he could've just pinged everyone to lethal with a lesser masticore over and over again? Im very confused
And this kids is why we include "Body Snatcher" in our Hulk decks. Or play at least a second backup pile. Sorry, but what was that? Not trying to be mean or something, but that Hulk deck needs a major overhaul...
Why would Chris ping down the Sage in the last turn of game 1? Couldn't he just shoot the Kiki instead to prevent Ryan from winning? Anyways great content, as always. Thanks
This is probably the first competition for who goes first that i dont believe. All the rest are possible, but i cant in good faith believe you guys played a full game of monopoly prior to a cedh game. Sorry, just not buying it...
She is pretty fringe in CEDH. Really awesome fun card though! Props to anyone who plays her(in cedh, in casual she is very strong). But anyone playing her is doing it cause they like her and/or like the challenge of playing fringe. I kind of think she is barely even fringe.
The current mulligan rule in MTG is the "London" mulligan. Every mulligan, the player draws 7 cards, then for each mulligan taken, the player puts 1 card on the bottom of their library. The slight exception being commander, where the first mulligan is free and does not require any cards to be put to the bottom. The player's "London mulligans" are the cards they put to the bottom of their libraries from their opening hands.
Nope, quite old - from back in Worldwake (2010) - just not a common piece of tech unless you're playing one or two colours as there are better pieces of interaction available to protect a win
Your gameplay just continues to get worse and worse. If it were casual commander, no biggie, but just because you use competitive cards does not make your gameplay competitive
Not to be too critical, but I honestly cannot fathom successfully getting 3 Hulk triggers in a single turn and not winning the game. That's absurd.
He had his Cauldron Familiar in hand. He couldn't cast it so he couldn't drain the board. It happens!
He also had a diabolic intent with witch he could have found the mana to cast it
Sounds like a deck building issue. Probably needs body snatcher instead of sleeper or another outlet.. There is a reason the database list is on body snatcher
To add on, they had Diabolic Intent.
@@rebellhow257 Precisely this, could have found the mana to cast it. Or they were missing the Chrome Mox exile piece or Mox Diamond discard.
I like to imagine that the things they do to choose the starting player actually happen.
Everyone's complaining about the Hulk turn - meanwhile I'm just here thinking the game was over the moment Alana bounced the Seedborn.
I understand the urge because the Thrasios-player was grinding big value. But you also just tricked the only other blue player into tapping out while two rather explosive decks are about to untap.
Maybe bouncing Thrasios was the call here, if you really wanted to slow them down.
Love the cat walking across the playmat at 8:57
Corey *really* needed a Blood Pet in the deck. If he in fact had Cauldron Familiar in hand the last Hulk pile could have found it, sac'd it, then played the cat to win the game on the spot.
Dunno what cuts would need to be made for that but woof. So close!
I can’t imagine sac’ing a hulk more than once and still not putting together a line.
@@True_Ronin Looking at the decklist Cauldron Familiar was the only way the deck wins through with Samwise. Thus it being in hand is awkward.
I gather he was hoping to make it to his next turn, hence all the disruption, to then win but the Fury broke his back.
@@CosmicGiggaloit was on his hand... He sac the abolisher for 2 black mana... He didn't used the mana... He played that terribly terribly bad
@@CosmicGiggalodidn’t he cast diabolic intent? Does the list now run like a lotus petal or smthn.
@@RLKC8 No Lotus Petal no. It has Mox Diamond and Chrome Mox but during the "winning" turn its doubtful he had another land or a black card for either 0 mana artifact.
Wait wait wait did I just see a player resolving 2 hulk and 1 rector death trigers in one turn and the game isnt over? Is it really cedh? xD
It was acually 3 hulks. I was very confused how he didn't immediately win as well
It's a 1 pile win now. I'm very confused how they didn't just win.
I think they said at the end of the video that the kill spell that hulk would've tutored for was in his hand
Still he has another turn to win, but decided to be bad and play bad lol
I don't really buy that he couldn't win with 3 hulks and a rector trigger. I think he was dicking around.
If you sac Protean Hulk and don't win on the spot, your deck needs adjustments
He had his Cauldron Familiar in hand. He couldn't cast it so he couldn't drain the board. It happens!
@@criscomp5486 No it doesnt, there are cards that exist to cover these edge cases such as body launderer or body snatcher. The cat pile is also much worse than the breakfeast lines for tymna thras hulk
@@criscomp5486Yeah no it doesn’t, you could be on the breakfast line or body snatcher/launderer for these situations
@@criscomp5486 You either don't keep a 7 with a combo piece in it (if you really only have one Hulk pile in your deck) or you include Body Snatcher in your deck. Either way this situation should not be able to happen if you're running a well built Hulk deck.
exactly my thought. should've pinged everyone with lesser masticore/disciple death triggers
5 Mystic Remora triggers for one player before Turn 3 begins. Pay the tax or wait until the fish dies before playing stuff.
I understand wanting to only run good cards in TNT, but I feel like game one makes a strong argument for having some backup win plan for old protein hulk
Like having Atraxa in the command zone
Any time I see Tevesh I immediately and rooting for that player and what a pair of games they were.
Love that Alana is playing Emry. She's the whole reason I started looking into cedh
i’m glad you guys are putting these outdated decks against more relevant cedh decks
Dargo/Tevesh is such a cool deck
That first game is the reason why I run blood pet in my thrasios tymna hulk
I love all these decks, especially Codie and Tevesh/dargo
So happy to see people playing Rocco still 💚 My first cEdh list was rocco.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why doesn't T&T run a game winning hulk line?
Hey drew the last piece being cauldron familiar
I was wondering that too... Doesn't Samwise, Carrion Feeder, and Cauldron Familiar make a winning line? I get the familiar was in hand but you'd think that paying B to win the game after hulking would be your priority
Samwise Gamgee has made the best new hulk line because you can get him with Cauldron Familiar, a 1 cmc sac outlet (normally Viscera Seer or Carrion Feeder), and Grand Abolisher. If you send your hulk to the graveyard and grab these cards that means it is game over most of the time.
Because the deck was built really bad... A good deck would've won on the spot.
That fire covenant being countered is pain
About 14:40
It's turn 2 - there's a player with all of their life, and then there's a players with only one life remaining.
I don't understand any criticism against cEDH. It's absolutely amazing.
I know I said that last time but your editing is way better then before keep up the good work
Oh my God, Corey in the house!
It's so wild how often these players get turn 1 mystic remora and mana crypt
4:03 Why couldn't Corey win with all those Hulk sacrifices, and a Diabolic Intent? Was one of the win conditions in their hand?
Yes. It was in their hand
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for explaining!
I looked through the decklist and found Chrome Mox the only fast mana in an Ouphie deck which I found reasonable. What didn't help was the lack of protection pieces like Sylvan Safekeeper or more fast mana like Lotus Petal.
I'm trying to figure out why they didn't just wait, especially since Abolisher had to die, opening the table up to interact during the Hulk line.
Where can I find stickers like the ones they are using in this video? Is there a gaming accessory company that makes them? Do they just grab em from the store? I plan on making Malcom/vial smasher and have lots of cards I’m going to be swapping between decks so I want to get in on this.
In game 2 Chris forget some triggers of mayhem devil when other players sacrifice permanents
do I just not see something or shouldn't a single Hulk sac always result in a win, unless somehow stopped?
he even got 2 and then just made some random food tokens when he could've just pinged everyone to lethal with a lesser masticore over and over again? Im very confused
Always the non blue deck getting bad luck :( that gamble discard
4:33 if Correy searched for Cauldron Familiar instead of Esper Sentinel he will have won the game, if I am not mistaken.
Corey had the familiar in hand sadly.
I wonder if he plays blood pet?
Dam ratchet trap did work 😮
It physically pained me to see t&t fumble this game so bad. They should’ve won this game but punted so bad
This was painful to watch. TRIPLE Hulk and no win?
And this kids is why we include "Body Snatcher" in our Hulk decks. Or play at least a second backup pile.
Sorry, but what was that? Not trying to be mean or something, but that Hulk deck needs a major overhaul...
Why would Chris ping down the Sage in the last turn of game 1? Couldn't he just shoot the Kiki instead to prevent Ryan from winning?
Anyways great content, as always. Thanks
Had this exact thought
Was the cat in hand or something? Is he not on any creature that can find mana?
I love dargo loops
What's with the stickers on Chris's cards, do they mean anything?
Some players use those when they have cards that go in multiple decks, the stickers usually represent which deck they belong to
Wow thought Corey was gonna win with a Hulk line?!?!?! Doesn't run a package for hulk? I mean the value was amazing but why not win right there?
They had the win condition in their hand and couldn’t get it onto the battlefield
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG ah ok. That sucks lol.
This is probably the first competition for who goes first that i dont believe. All the rest are possible, but i cant in good faith believe you guys played a full game of monopoly prior to a cedh game. Sorry, just not buying it...
Smh TnT playing with its food instead of being on breakfast and just winning 😅
Hasnt Emry been a viable option for some time now?
She is pretty fringe in CEDH. Really awesome fun card though! Props to anyone who plays her(in cedh, in casual she is very strong). But anyone playing her is doing it cause they like her and/or like the challenge of playing fringe. I kind of think she is barely even fringe.
If proper cedh is a 10/10 on the power scale, Emry is a 9
@@barrelofbugs I mean now she's Fringe but that's still like tier 2 cEDH. last year I believe she was on the DDB, now she's under outdated
Her whole game plan is a massive risk for opposing docksides, I can only assume it's a big risk running her. Which is a shame, I love her design.
@@toctheyounger high risk, high reward. I also love her design, just haven't bit the bullet on building her.
tragic hulk line
Does anyone know what Islands Alana was using?
Full arts from Streets of New Capenna
What does London mulligan mean?
The current mulligan rule in MTG is the "London" mulligan. Every mulligan, the player draws 7 cards, then for each mulligan taken, the player puts 1 card on the bottom of their library. The slight exception being commander, where the first mulligan is free and does not require any cards to be put to the bottom. The player's "London mulligans" are the cards they put to the bottom of their libraries from their opening hands.
Is Ricochet Trap new? I feel like I haven't seen it before this vid.
Nope, quite old - from back in Worldwake (2010) - just not a common piece of tech unless you're playing one or two colours as there are better pieces of interaction available to protect a win
The blow outs in this video would make a hair dresser jealous
Taiga uppercut
My brother has an Emry deck. Before watching the entire video, I think it can be CEDH
The c in cedh stands for casual
Jesus. You resolved 3 Protean Hulk triggers and still failed to win. 😅😅😅
As someone who actively tries to avoid playing blue I love seeing a naya and rakdos deck win in a pod with multiple blue players.
I counterspell your comment.
Don’t feed the fish
The TT deck went off cause of tht
That man was cheating lol
Yeah, TMT is gonna win...NO, WAIT
Amateur hulk player…
Your gameplay just continues to get worse and worse. If it were casual commander, no biggie, but just because you use competitive cards does not make your gameplay competitive