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I have the same popping problem when I use RX (de-reverb and spectral de-noise) as an on-the-fly plugin in FCP. Same problem- small cross fades don’t always solve it. Really helpful alternative tips from you here (as ever). Glad I popped in! (Boom boom)
I love this hack, i use it all tone time when there is background noise, but it sometimes makes my voice sound bubbly, or I’m underwater. Great video, keep it up 👍
I love this new feature. Listening to your video with the iPhone speakers I thought the audio from the built-in camera at 100% actually was best! I believe this feature really makes a difference for people who listen with their phones tiny speakers compared to headphones or large speakers. Great comparisons!
Final Cut has auto-fader now! Select all of the audio, Option + T will take care of those pops, might still need to play with it---but pretty good for only a couple clicks!
I don't know if this has been brought up, but you can assign your audio clips to a roles. Then picking specific related audio is a lot easier. Thanks for all your videos.
You're great it's just the video that was needed! if you have time, make one on the j cut and l cut for final cut, i'll be the first viewer! Thanks again!
I’ve been using this feature on a few videos recently, and it’s a game changer. I used it on some video of talent outside, with traffic noise in the background. The Voice Isolation slider just removed it all. It was pretty shocking how effective it was.
Ah, I finally got to finish this video. Yes, I apply VI at the end - what I normally do is compound my voice audio into it’s own track, then apply it. I’d normally be working with audio track view at that stage.
I need to remember that you will inevitably say the thing that I do, and that it’s silly of me to try and have a back and forth dialog with a video. Especially before it’s over.
What happens if you: 1. Throw all your A roll on a timeline 2. Select all and make a compound clip 3. Apply Voice Isolation 4. Create ANOTHER compound clip 5. and then edit that final one? Curious if you have experience with this. Usually I use the two-compound clip method for myself to make it easy to adjust audio and video effects across all my a roll clips. I throw everything in my timeline and then make a compound clip called “Adjustments.” I apply all my audio and video adjustments to that compound clip. Then I make a SECOND compound clip called “Edit this one” which is what I use to actually cut and edit the a roll together. This makes it so I can tweak the audio or video effects at any time, and they apply across all my cuts. I may try this tomorrow and report back! Either way, thank you for an excellent tutorial!
I've never done this myself, to be honest, so I don't know exactly how it would work. It sounds like you've developed your own way of creating adjustment layers in FCP, which is pretty darn awesome. 😎
You can also use the timeline index in Final Cut Pro to select all the videos from your fx30 in the Final Cut Pro timeline and it highlights everything and then detach the audio that way. Much easier and saves a lot of time. You can use this to multi select effects or pretty much anything in your Final Cut Pro timeline before creating a compound clip. Learned this from a fellow creator called Mathew O’Brien
This is a welcomed featured for podcast episodes, especially when I am editing a guest's video/audio feed. I would probably also use it on my feed until I sound treat my new office studio.
Hey Tom, great video. I didn’t know about the pop issue but that could be because I generally use compound clips at the end of an edit apply any effect i want to any particular stream of audio including the voice isolation to the dialogue role without the need to detach all the dialogue. And if there’s clips with talking in different locations etc I use dialogue subroles to split those out. Either way the principle is the same. Thanks again for another great to trial video.
As always, the explanations are great. You only explained the Voice Isolation applied to studio quality sounds. I have found Voice Isolation to be very useful in improving poor or less desirable audio recorded in an uncontrolled environment. Wind noise, machinery etc are reduced or eliminated making the voice more useable. Not perfect but useable.
@@tombuck ya I was going to make a video about it because just an amazing tool. I was able to remove landscapers from the background of a client video that were using blowers! It’s just crazy good.
I'll have to try this while I'm editing the latest client video. It's been recorded in a big hall and despite using a lav there's a lot of "reverb". Will apply these tips, thank youuuuuu!
The trick is to extend the clips that are meeting up by about a few seconds and then manually create volume point after of course detaching all your audio separately from the video clips and then do a manual fade in and fade out of each respective clip - that way the voice isolation plugin has time to process the fade in and fade out reading and does not create the click and pop. This happens because of audio buffer issue - but by manually giving each clip more breathing space - the issue is resolved. Hopefully FCPX will fix this soon.
For me, I've done this and still have the popping issue. It almost seems like it's how FCP handles the Voice Isolation when a clip ends, regardless of whether or not it overlaps something else 🤷🏻♂️
LOVE the video editing videos. I don't know if you've ever messed around with Davinci Resolve, but it would be cool to see some vides using that software. Maybe even some comparisons to Final Cut? Just a thought.
Much easier to just add in the VI as your last step before exporting. No pops or clicks then. Audio is the last step in my workflow, so I haven't experienced this problem myself.
hey!! thank you so much for the video. I was wondering if it's possible to do like a reverse voice isolation? i was in a concert and in one of the clips there's an audience talking in the middle of the song and i want to remove the talking voice. when i set the isolation amount to 100% it actually did really good (only the person talking, no music at all lol) and i want to reverse that to save the music but remove the talking. wondering if you know how!! i hope it makes sense, thank you so much in advance!!
Hmm, this is a tough one. I don't have a surefire solution, but you might want to go into the Equalizer (maybe even the 30 band EQ) and see if you can turn down the frequencies of the voice while keeping the crowd. If their frequencies overlap, it probably won't work, but if they're different enough, it could get the job done.
@@tombuck Thank you!!! I tried and it helped reduce it! It did overlap a lot especially because there were live instruments but I'm glad I learned the technique at least! Thanks for sharing!
Thing is though, when you boost the low frequencies, you will most likely also accentuate reverbs, room noises and the likes. Ah! If only voice recording booth were cheaper!
Of course, the dilemma is when the client comes back with some edit changes after you've done all that. You can't reattach the detached audio. You could uncompound your audio and the compound with the video but now you're getting into lots of steps and complexity.
@@tombuck ha this video could have been a tweet :P seriously though, thank you for making such useful videos! Always enjoy watching, and enjoy your podcasts too! I’m getting my first XLR microphone tomorrow and I’m quite excited! Also, I meant use compound clips in an easier way, literally just make the main video clip a compound clip, then back straight out and edit as normal and apply all the filters etc as normal and it fixed it. No need to even open the compound clip
For me, the much bigger problem is that I can't click on the voice isolation on my m1 pro macbook. I read somewhere that this could be related to mono and stereo tracks, but with most videos nothing happens at all. I simply can't click on it.
Yes, mono and stereo tracks can change the available settings. Sometimes you can right click on them, turn them into a compound clip, and then apply the isolation to that.
Sometimes it depends on the specific audio file. Try right-clicking on the audio and creating a Compound Clip- you should be able to add Voice Isolation to the new compound clip.
I've definitely been known to make audio mistakes, but I think I watched this video at least a dozen times while editing and before uploading and didn't notice any crackles.
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I have the same popping problem when I use RX (de-reverb and spectral de-noise) as an on-the-fly plugin in FCP. Same problem- small cross fades don’t always solve it. Really helpful alternative tips from you here (as ever). Glad I popped in! (Boom boom)
Ba dum tsshhh 🥁
Haha, I'm really glad it was helpful. Good to know it also works with other plugins and stuff!
I love this hack, i use it all tone time when there is background noise, but it sometimes makes my voice sound bubbly, or I’m underwater. Great video, keep it up 👍
It can definitely be taken too far, but it also totally saved the day sometimes 🙌
Please make more videos on Final Cut Pro. Thanks
I’d love to, especially if there’s anything specific that would be helpful.
the compound clip solution is genius
I've been using it in every video and it's been a huge help!
Another great video, as usual. Many thanks.
Thank you so much! I'm really happy is was helpful! 🙏
Thank you. I was going crazy wondering where all the popping and bad feedback was coming from. I didn’t know it was the Voice Isolation
It's so annoying, but thankfully it's fixable!
I love this new feature. Listening to your video with the iPhone speakers I thought the audio from the built-in camera at 100% actually was best! I believe this feature really makes a difference for people who listen with their phones tiny speakers compared to headphones or large speakers. Great comparisons!
Thank you for the deep dive!
That's a good looking desk/mat cover under your keyboard by the way!
Thanks so much Adrien! 🙏
Sorry, but I'm hugely attached to all my audio because audio is 60 percent of the Video. Seriously this is you at your best! Teaching!
Thanks Matt! Audio is definitely the most important part of video 👍
Final Cut has auto-fader now! Select all of the audio, Option + T will take care of those pops, might still need to play with it---but pretty good for only a couple clicks!
Awesome! I'll have to try this next time I edit!
Are you sure its Contol+T? Doesn't work in my FCP.
@@KanapaKnapa Option T ads that audio fade
I don't know if this has been brought up, but you can assign your audio clips to a roles. Then picking specific related audio is a lot easier. Thanks for all your videos.
Definitely an amazing organizational tool!
I have just been schooled! Thank you!
Haha, I'm glad it was helpful! Class dismissed 🎓
Voice isolation feature is so freaking good!!
Nice feature! Testing right now!
Good luck! 👍
I've same issue (POP) when using voice isolation, thanks for the valuable tips.
It was so frustrating because I love the feature, but the pops were making it tough to use.
You're great it's just the video that was needed! if you have time, make one on the j cut and l cut for final cut, i'll be the first viewer! Thanks again!
Thanks of rate kind words! I'll keep in mind the j-cut, l-cut idea!
Great tip. Those pops drove me crazy!
Sup er annoying! Good to know I’m not the only one who has them though 😁
I’ve been using this feature on a few videos recently, and it’s a game changer.
I used it on some video of talent outside, with traffic noise in the background. The Voice Isolation slider just removed it all. It was pretty shocking how effective it was.
Ah, I finally got to finish this video. Yes, I apply VI at the end - what I normally do is compound my voice audio into it’s own track, then apply it. I’d normally be working with audio track view at that stage.
I need to remember that you will inevitably say the thing that I do, and that it’s silly of me to try and have a back and forth dialog with a video. Especially before it’s over.
I’m glad you could have that discussion with Video Tom 😁
@@tombuck the next best thing to Real Tom!
What happens if you:
1. Throw all your A roll on a timeline
2. Select all and make a compound clip
3. Apply Voice Isolation
4. Create ANOTHER compound clip
5. and then edit that final one?
Curious if you have experience with this. Usually I use the two-compound clip method for myself to make it easy to adjust audio and video effects across all my a roll clips. I throw everything in my timeline and then make a compound clip called “Adjustments.” I apply all my audio and video adjustments to that compound clip. Then I make a SECOND compound clip called “Edit this one” which is what I use to actually cut and edit the a roll together. This makes it so I can tweak the audio or video effects at any time, and they apply across all my cuts. I may try this tomorrow and report back!
Either way, thank you for an excellent tutorial!
I've never done this myself, to be honest, so I don't know exactly how it would work. It sounds like you've developed your own way of creating adjustment layers in FCP, which is pretty darn awesome. 😎
Voice isolation is the unsung hero. I also do the same thing to get rid of that pop sound.
I'm surprised they didn't make a bigger deal of it when Voice Isolation was added- it's a HUGE benefit!
You can also use the timeline index in Final Cut Pro to select all the videos from your fx30 in the Final Cut Pro timeline and it highlights everything and then detach the audio that way. Much easier and saves a lot of time. You can use this to multi select effects or pretty much anything in your Final Cut Pro timeline before creating a compound clip. Learned this from a fellow creator called Mathew O’Brien
This is a welcomed featured for podcast episodes, especially when I am editing a guest's video/audio feed. I would probably also use it on my feed until I sound treat my new office studio.
Hey Tom, great video. I didn’t know about the pop issue but that could be because I generally use compound clips at the end of an edit apply any effect i want to any particular stream of audio including the voice isolation to the dialogue role without the need to detach all the dialogue. And if there’s clips with talking in different locations etc I use dialogue subroles to split those out. Either way the principle is the same. Thanks again for another great to trial video.
Sounds like you were already solving the issue before it became a problem. Nice! 😎
As always, the explanations are great. You only explained the Voice Isolation applied to studio quality sounds. I have found Voice Isolation to be very useful in improving poor or less desirable audio recorded in an uncontrolled environment. Wind noise, machinery etc are reduced or eliminated making the voice more useable. Not perfect but useable.
It's definitely a lifesaver in those less than desirable situations!
Another super tutorial 🔥
Thank you 🙌
Your tutorial content is awesome. Keep up the good work. THANKS!
Thanks Bob!
Freaking life saver! I have been going crazy trying to figure out how to fix that pop by fades but it then sounds off! Great job!
Glad it helped! I loved the feature so much but was so bummed that I kept having this problem.
@@tombuck ya I was going to make a video about it because just an amazing tool. I was able to remove landscapers from the background of a client video that were using blowers! It’s just crazy good.
I'll have to try this while I'm editing the latest client video. It's been recorded in a big hall and despite using a lav there's a lot of "reverb". Will apply these tips, thank youuuuuu!
I'll be interested to how how it works!
@@tombuck Yupp, worked great! Client happy!
Hey Tom. Have you used crumplepop’s echo remover? I like their tool but I’m glad to see this can help so much as well.
I've used their wind remover and it's saved my butt a few times, but not the echo remover.
The trick is to extend the clips that are meeting up by about a few seconds and then manually create volume point after of course detaching all your audio separately from the video clips and then do a manual fade in and fade out of each respective clip - that way the voice isolation plugin has time to process the fade in and fade out reading and does not create the click and pop. This happens because of audio buffer issue - but by manually giving each clip more breathing space - the issue is resolved. Hopefully FCPX will fix this soon.
For me, I've done this and still have the popping issue. It almost seems like it's how FCP handles the Voice Isolation when a clip ends, regardless of whether or not it overlaps something else 🤷🏻♂️
LOVE the video editing videos. I don't know if you've ever messed around with Davinci Resolve, but it would be cool to see some vides using that software. Maybe even some comparisons to Final Cut? Just a thought.
Resolve is great! I'd love to learn more about it. Right now I don't think my skills are at a point where I could make a fair comparison. 😬
Much easier to just add in the VI as your last step before exporting. No pops or clicks then.
Audio is the last step in my workflow, so I haven't experienced this problem myself.
hey!! thank you so much for the video. I was wondering if it's possible to do like a reverse voice isolation? i was in a concert and in one of the clips there's an audience talking in the middle of the song and i want to remove the talking voice. when i set the isolation amount to 100% it actually did really good (only the person talking, no music at all lol) and i want to reverse that to save the music but remove the talking. wondering if you know how!! i hope it makes sense, thank you so much in advance!!
Hmm, this is a tough one. I don't have a surefire solution, but you might want to go into the Equalizer (maybe even the 30 band EQ) and see if you can turn down the frequencies of the voice while keeping the crowd. If their frequencies overlap, it probably won't work, but if they're different enough, it could get the job done.
@@tombuck Thank you!!! I tried and it helped reduce it! It did overlap a lot especially because there were live instruments but I'm glad I learned the technique at least! Thanks for sharing!
Thing is though, when you boost the low frequencies, you will most likely also accentuate reverbs, room noises and the likes. Ah! If only voice recording booth were cheaper!
Of course, the dilemma is when the client comes back with some edit changes after you've done all that. You can't reattach the detached audio. You could uncompound your audio and the compound with the video but now you're getting into lots of steps and complexity.
Hello You are the best….
Thank you 🙏
I found a way to fix the pops. Weird fix, but if you make the clip a compound clip first, then edit it as normal that fixed it for me
You summed up most of my video in one sentence 😁
@@tombuck ha this video could have been a tweet :P seriously though, thank you for making such useful videos! Always enjoy watching, and enjoy your podcasts too! I’m getting my first XLR microphone tomorrow and I’m quite excited!
Also, I meant use compound clips in an easier way, literally just make the main video clip a compound clip, then back straight out and edit as normal and apply all the filters etc as normal and it fixed it. No need to even open the compound clip
For me, the much bigger problem is that I can't click on the voice isolation on my m1 pro macbook. I read somewhere that this could be related to mono and stereo tracks, but with most videos nothing happens at all. I simply can't click on it.
Yes, mono and stereo tracks can change the available settings. Sometimes you can right click on them, turn them into a compound clip, and then apply the isolation to that.
@@tombuck thanks for your help! I really appreciate it 🙂
im using the latest version of final cut and voice isolation isnt an option for me?
Sometimes it depends on the specific audio file. Try right-clicking on the audio and creating a Compound Clip- you should be able to add Voice Isolation to the new compound clip.
Is it just my iPhone speakers or is the sound of his voice kinda crackling sometimes throughout the whole video?
I’m not noticing any crackling ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ could be your phone?
I've definitely been known to make audio mistakes, but I think I watched this video at least a dozen times while editing and before uploading and didn't notice any crackles.
For some reason I don't have the Voice Isolation option in my FCP. 😐 Does anyone know how this can be fixed?
As long as you’re updated to the most recent version it should be there automatically 👍
@@tombuck Yes, it makes sense.) Thank you!
i also don't have it and mine is updated :/ would really save my life right about now...
won't work on Big Sur. Must have at least Monterey for voice isolation
What about "Resolving" the issue that some of us actually use DaVinvi!
Resolve is awesome too 👍
@@tombuck Thank you for the participation trophy, we both get what we pay for in our editing software... 😁