Why PHOEBE BRIDGERS Became An Indie Darling
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Are you really an indie music fan if you haven’t heard of Phoebe Bridgers? I mean how could you have not? Even if her music doesn’t connect with you, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to ignore her talent. Between releasing two solo records, forming an all-female supergroup and producing for other indie artists, the singer-songwriter has guest appeared on tracks with everyone from Lord Huron to Fiona Apple, The National, Kid Cudi, Bright Eyes, The 1975, Hayley Williams, Lorde and soon to be on Taylor Swift’s upcoming Red redux and The Killers’ upcoming Pressure Machine.
In just a few short years, Phoebe Bridgers has gone from rather unknown to an absolute indie darling. The release of her sophomore record Punisher garnered her four Grammy nominations including Best New Artist and saw her labelled as “one of the most important artists of this generation.” Let’s take a closer look at how PHOEBE BRIDGERS became indie’s new cult favorite.
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I think calling Ryan Adam's and her relationship a "short lived relationship" that inspired a "cheeky breakup track" is kinda bad. It was an abusive relationship that inspired a song about how his emotional abuse effected her. She was literally one of several women who came out with allegations of abuse and assault against him. I love the channel and the vid but that part rubbed me the wrong way, and I'd appreciate if u at least pinned a comment correcting it.
Edit: I editted a few words to sound less aggressive, sorry!
Yeah, I'm glad not the only one who took issue with that. It's not really a "cheeky break up song", it's more of a "This was one of the most traumatic relationships of my life and I need a way to process it" song, and not acknowledging it as such is kind of a disservice to both the song and Bridgers as an artist and human being. It's a shame too, because otherwise it's a great video. I just think it was a case of very poor wording/phrasing in that instance.
I'm completely with you, calling it cheeky just feels a bit off putting... Also love Middle 8s videos and the rest of the video is great, but I just wanted to echo that it felt wrong hearing it passed over like that. Since it's not the main topic of the video I get it was probably not researched but would be nice to have a note mentioning that she's expressed it was a low point for her and not a cheeky fling.
Only meant her wordplay in that one line was cheeky (she flat out says she faked it in bed with him every time). But I agree with you about the topical nature of the track. Like I say later in the video, much of Alps is about her dealing with trauma and her relationship with Adams is one of those examples. I wasn't looking to crucify Adams in this video. Their relationship was short and most likely due the emotional abuse he put her through. Thankfully she got herself out of it.
@@Middle8 I don't know dude. Pointing out the fact that he was in a relationship with her while not acknowledging that it was manipulative and emotionally abusive isn't crucifying him. And giving him kudos for giving her career a (much deserved) boost while not pointing out that it was part of a predatory pattern of pursuing young musicians sexually and retaliating if they rebuffed him is actually the opposite - "Look at Ryan Adams, who saw immense talent before anyone else".
I mean, he's got an entire section on his wikipedia dedicated to this. If I didn't already know the story I'd assume that it was just a relationship that fell apart like most relationships do. You either give the whole story (which only really needs another sentence to point out Adams' behaviour), or you don't mention him.
You don't give the story of the Manson Family and just mention that they dropped by a party at Sharon Tate's house. There's more information there that's important.
@@jamesfaulkner6842 mentioning Adams was solely to explain the turning point in her career - not necessarily giving him kudos for a musical discovery. My intention wasn’t to overshadow or downplay their relationship, it just wasn’t the focus of this video. I wanted to highlight her music. Phoebe is more than her previous relationship with Ryan Adams but you’re right, that kind of abuse isn’t something to ignore and perhaps I should have added a line about it. It’s something I’ll keep in mind moving forward.
there’s something about her music that feels so raw and interesting yet so captivating at the same time. It’s incredible the way she writes her lyrics. Punisher was my favorite album of 2020, everything works so perfect
Interesting yet captivating? The conjunction 'yet" is supposed to used for juxtaposing oppositional concepts. Not listing out synonyms in a way that you think will make you sound intelligent.
@@Daddy_Bear_722 i don’t know i have no respect for the english language
@@cristiancampos3312 ok?
@@Daddy_Bear_722 you probably speak one language my love, don’t come judge us bilinguals muak 😝😝😝
Great video! As someone who jumped on board with her right after Stranger in the Alps came out, it's been crazy seeing her explode in popularity and wind up on Cudi and Killers albums.
I really love Copycat Killer, the version of Chinese Satellite on that is probably my favorite Phoebe song. Very curious to see if her next album uses that style or continues what she was doing in Punisher.
Thanks! Biggest surprise of 2020 was definitely seeing her on a Cudi track -- probably my favourite cut off that record tbh.
Being mysteriously drawn to your channel for the last year or so now makes sense.
Her album punisher has been my favorite I love the way her voice sits on every song
As a man in my mid 20s I am perpetually impressed and concerned at how well Phoebe makes me feel like a teenage girl
just because phoebe is a women dosent mean her music is just for teenage girls, granted that is most of her fans, phoebe writes about experiences that affect almost everyone labelling her as a musician for teenage girls seems a bit reductive. (this isn’t really directed at the commenter just ppl in general who think this way)
Well done 👏
Ditto
As a man in my mid 40’s I feel you si…err bro…I feel you..
same - and I'm 49 lol
I heard the song 'Funeral' back in 2017 iirc when it came out, I fell in love with her raw emotion and voice then and there. She is a blessing on the modern music world.
I know the end is easily one of the best songs of 2020
MOON SONG
it's such a 2020 song, definitely captures the apocalyptic vibe of that year
She is one of a kind songwriter. I really love her and I'm glad her work is getting recognition.
She writes mediocre and painfully average lyrics like a middle schooler wrote them. I don't understand how people think she is such a talented lyricist.
@@aethrya who peed in your cereal this morning? let people enjoy things dude
@@aethrya I tend to agree lol
@@ellabanchieri8114 people can enjoy what they want. But it's just really both annoying and perplexing to see her name everywhere praising her for being some sort of writing legend when she acts like and writes like a 14 year old. She is just average all around and I don't get the hype.
@@aethrya believe what you believe. but when people are being happy and enjoying something you don’t jump in to the conversation with negativity. imagine if you were eating a plate of your favorite meal and someone just walked up to you and started talking about how gross they thought it was. that’s basically what you’re doing. if you really wanted to share your opinion you could have just done it in a separate comment, but the fact that you’re doing it in a reply to someone else who’s enjoying it really says a lot about you.
For all the collaborations he talked about, how’d he not mention her 2021 feature on Paul McCartneys new album
IKR, I didn't even know her until she showed up on Paul's record.
Who's Paul McCartney
@@DG-ck2mv in case you're actually serious,
he was in The Beatles.
@@hannahg8439 what’s the beatles
@@peepeebutthole lol
I had a chance to see her at a local venue for 20 bucks about 4 years ago. Stranger In The Alps had just come out or was just about to.
I was very interested having heard the Killer EP, but had to go to work early, so I passed thinking I’ll just catch her when she passes by my podunk town next time.
I’m kicking myself now.
Phoebe has often demonstrated a natural, self-deferential sense of humor. I have found it to be one of her more charming attributes. Perhaps that is one reason her lyrics about an awful event in her life can be sometimes interpreted as being "cheeky".
i fell in love with her as soon as stranger in the alps was released. boygenius is still one of my favorite projects ever. so happy to see you posting about her!
I discovered phoebe through one of my closest friends and fell in love immediately. Chinese Satellite became my favorite when I first listened to it, and I even named a writing project after her song ICU. Chinese Satellite is about being unfaithful, I Know The End about the apocalypse, and ICU about a breakup. I love it, and Moon Song has become something I listen to for relaxation when I feel anxious. She deserves her recognition that she’s gotten in the past couple months.
I just became a true fan of hers like a few weeks ago and have been obsessing over her as of late! She rocks!!
I have a playlist on Spotify… dedicated to her. I can listen to it on repeat almost all day long. The fact she didn’t win a Grammy is incredulous but she seems fine with it (other than smashing her guitar on SNL etc etc etc). Just a fabulous artist and I cannot wait to see what she does next.
NB: I’m also a huge Ryan Adams fan. I try to separate the music from the probable reality.
She's got so much potential
As I believe many of us have been listening to Bridgers for a pretty long time, I think all of us can agree that it's finally great to see her get some mainstream success.
Really liked this vid. Love Phoebe, one of the most refreshing artists I've heard in a while
The best thing about this channel is the video edits. so nice
How does everyone miss the original Killer EP released in March 2014, there is a crazy pop feel with the her current sensibility
happy birthday phoebe! personally i love her music but i can understand why others wouldn't
She also kinda did a collaboration with Paul McCartney on Sieze the Day!
1:09 🎵smelly cat smelly cat, what are they feeding you?🎵
Man she's good!
graceland too is one of my favourite songs, so peaceful
oh yeahh.. i caught her on Spotify as a daily mix suggestion!!♡
If it is possible, would you consider asking her to go on your podcast?
that'd be a great episode
I'm really happy to see that you mentioned Christian Lee Hutson. I saw him play on Office Hours and I was instantly hooked.
Can you talk about Rainbow? They're so underrated but they're sooooo good. Love your videos♡
As in the classic rock band?
I like her alone but I love her in Boygenious. Salt in the Wound is so beautiful.
I literally love her so much, she's amazing! Thank you for this video!
WOW. I WASN'T EXPECTING THIS.
That new killers album seems so unlike their other famous works, they got a bruce Springsteen vibe now
She is awesome
What a bad call to describe boygenius as "a therapy group" for these 3 gifted women and their work(s). It definitely offers much more than this slight of hand misnomer. Baker, Bridgers and Dacus are each highly talented artists; their combined voices and words provide listeners an aural and emotional treat. "Therapy" is never that easy LOL!!
i just got into this channel because of this video and now i can't stop watching.
please make a video essay about Olivia Rodrigo and her success next!!
Great editing and video. Congrats Middle 8! Great vid
Never heard of phoebe but I’ll check her music out now.
She's amazing
same.. clicked on the video because of how good the videos are but no idea who this phoebe is
I envy you. I love her, wish I could hear all of her music for the first time.
thank you VERY very much for making a video on one of the best new artists today😊😊😊
Stranger in the Alps is an awesome album ❤️ can you do a video on Mac DeMarco? Pleaseeeee??
"A dash of existential dread"...clever.
I know her from the Plastic Trees cover.
I know her from the Ryan Adams-slagging bs.
Great video as always. Phoebe is great!!
I adore this woman to death.
I can't wait to see her next month
You are the fucking best! You curate musical content that is 👌🏼
Phoebe Bridgers is our personal therapist, until we know the end is near.
So, I love Phoebe… and had this sense of “I know that name” and then checked my playlist… I don’t have her. Listening to this there’s like 20 songs I recognize! Annoying that I didn’t download the songs I love!
Clicked on this, expecting a piece about another alt from Alice phoebe lou (also an amazing artist)
This phoebe is a bit to raw and depressing for my current spring mood, but still a new musical discovery I gladly pick up again once autumn is around the corner
When I heard Billie, Taylor, all the big pop and bubbling pop and folk artists start to incorporate part of Phoebe’s music, whether it’s her production or the way she writes, Ik Phoebe was special.
Awesome video and editing, much love
can u pls make a video about Mitski too
Love to see a new middle 8 vid
Saw her open for a band in a small L.A. club years ago - a shy, nervous girl with acoustic guitar running through some bedroom hits. Pretty wild to see that same girl take over the world.
I would love to see a video covering Bright Eyes/ Conor Oberst
Could you do a video on Boards of Canada?
thanks for this video!
she's the moment
Didn't know about her. Thanks for the heads up 👍🏿
Listened to Ketchum, ID in Ketchum, ID. That drive hit different, got me into Phoebe's work.
i really like this style of video!
Phoebe honestly feels like the female version of Justin Vernon: both have a indie folky debut album that was a personal raw burst of heartbreaking emotion, both are literally everywhere with their collaborations, and their second albums are both more polished and artsy singersongwriting that got Grammy recognition
I know your intentions are good but I don’t think phoebe likes being referred to as the “female equivalent of male artist”
@@penguinraids2723 maybe, but being compared to one of the best songwriters of the past decade is a huge compliment, regardless of the gender
1:03 "That kid is just a ghost in a sheet."
Just met this channel 2 weeks ago but man, I LOVE this channel!!!! Keep up with the great work =)
Please make a bright eyes video
Id love to see you do a video on Miracle Musical's Hawaii Part: II
All Pharbz in the world, unite!
This video was so well-edited and felt like a thorough deep-dive into Phoebe's body of work.
Phoebe Bridgers is probably my favorite artist working today. Her music got me through 2020 and she continues to impress me to this day.
I do agree with some people in the comments that the Ryan Adams part should have delved deeper into how horribly he treated Phoebe.
Outside of that, amazing video on an amazing artist!
I was even lucky to interview her this year. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/30qwofjKzpU/w-d-xo.html.
I’d honestly not heard of this artist but it looks like I should check her out!
Bright eyes was (is?) one of my favorite bands ever (especially during the late 00’s and early 2010’s) and I truly think Connor Oberst is one of the modern eras true folk poets when it comes to his lyrics. He truly helped me get through a bad opiate addiction by giving me something to relate to through it all. Anyway, the fact that he collaborated with her quite a bit must mean her stuff is right up my alley.
fav youtube channel makes video about fav artist
This is the best thumbnail I’ve seen in years
Phoebe and skizzy Mars 💕
I missed out on a chance to see her at a music festival a few years ago. I decided to go to the stage with car seat headrest playing
i mean… it’s csh.
I mean, you could have done a lot worse! I love Phoebe, but Car Seat Headrest is great too.
@@sundogsun exactly
@@inflago yep, I even got a wave from will Toledo lol
punisher is a masterpiece
good, she deserves it. Her writing is reaaallly really good, you'd think by now we'd be tired of the 'death obsessed' style of writing, but somehow hers is different.
1:56 😅 _I faked it every time, but that’s alright._
Damn. Lol.
love love
Waiting
Her music reminds me a lot of Dodie Clark's music.
Kyoto is my favourite I found it when it first came out and it was just amazing and icu is my second favourites and if u like them I would recommend your light by the big moon and soft spot by Claude
Stranger in the Alps is a devastatig album
Middle 8 Madness when?
Never heard of.
can you do lord huron next
I’ve heard more talent from other women and they get no recognition, she is a bit overhyped if u ask me. But that’s just my opinion after hearing what people call her best album “punisher” just my humble opinion folks
Look at the guy! Cool guy making video! He is cool guy!
I hate that my brain confuses her with Phoebe Waller-Bridge all the time
Two Phoebes with depressingly genius content in the last few years. “Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice!” 😂
I just came here for the lord huron reference
Please do a video on either Slipknot or NF please!!!!
Interesting video
you should do a video on baby driver
happy birthday pheebs!
Once i criticized her on twitter, an army of hardcore fans/lgbtq army took it personally cause apparently she represents them or something
Your mistake was using twitter in the first place, no one can have opinions on that app without other people shitting on ir ong
where is this lgbtq army i’m tryna enlist lmao
@@KaitlinGaspar Same. Sign me up lol!
@limelight81 i swear i didn't, i said sth about not destroying her guitar good on snl
@limelight81 well if you disagree with an opinion with actual constructive criticisms there would'nt be a meme going around about how shit of a platform twitter is
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Great video! Please do a video dedicated to Melanie Martinez
Would you explore songs not in/mix with english language in the future? I think it'll be interesting to learn the song, but it'll be a pain to research. You don't have to do it, just thought it might be interesting.
That’s a long video to not say rich parents.
🤣
Thought I was going insane thinking this is modern day garbage
This is the Latina version of phoebe in the beginning of the video.
Still can't relate. Can't hear any of the appeal. Would really like to but just not buying her image.
Agreed. She’s a complete industry fabrication. Several other artists do her Music better, but authentically
yo should do a pink floyd video
you couldve calling this video "How PHOEBE BRIDGERS Became Indie's New Cult"