Time to fight off the Ruler of Darkness, Yami! This is it...the final battle! Copyrights to Okami belong to former Clover, ReadyatDawn Studios (for Wii port), and ultimately Capcom.
I actually really liked how you basically only really hear about Yami once, from Ninetails. It sort of makes him the opposite of Amaterasu - Ammy's the center of the pantheon of gods, and the most well known, whereas Yami, as the mastermind of darkness, is so good at manipulating others to do his work that only the highest ranking demons are even aware of him, let alone the rest of the world. Discovering him is supposed to feel like discovering evil's secret.
And in spite of that, the prevailing theory is that Yami represents humanity’s sins. I always thought that was a little off. I like the idea of him being something weird and primordial
Not gonna lie, when I used the mist ability on Yami’s slot machine form and I saw the spirit of Queen Himiko throwing health orbs down, the biggest smile grew on my face
@@mattdubz6890 He shows up during the animation and deals out a ton of damage, like how Suzano joins with a sword attack if you use crescent and Queen Himiko gives you healing items if you use veil of mist.
People go on about how Yami's forms represent the evils of humanity. But are we just gonna ignore how Yami, the fish, has the same markings on his body as the Brush Gods?
Except the brush gods are white with red markings. Like Reshiram, eastern dragon, nature. And Yami is black with blue markings. Like Zekrom, western dragon, technology. The symbolism of contrary forces is deeper than you can ever imagine.
@@techlevel80 while the brush gods are many equal beings that guard nature and goodness, and are powered by the praise they earn from personally helping others, Yami is a single, selfish being that abuses and spreads technology and evil, and powers itself by influencing mortals to act in its name instead, spreading fear of what it represents.
@@maxrichards3881plus Yami's markings are more rigid, looking like circuitry, whereas the brush gods markings look like they're painted on, being more curvy and such.
I always wondered if that’s supposed to imply some kind of connection to divinity, like yami’s something similar to the brush gods or if it’s just coincidence.
Friendly reminder that all of Yami's forms were the flaws and evils of humanity. So basically Ammy was almost killed by those she was trying to protect.
Aunisty Switzer its to show that evil can come anyting no matter theyr form or size that evil starts from everithing and all is stages show how we humans participate in evil all the time the hand speacialy
i think part of it is how he's the only enemy in the entire game, let alone boss, who is jsut seeminglky COMPLETELY mechanical and unnatural looking. Even other monsters looked like animals or had fleshy bits. Not to mention a complex machine in feudal japan. He looks completely out of place.
Tokoyami no Sumeragi, the Emperor of Everlasting Darkness, and the darkness that resides in all of us. Form 1 - Humanity’s desire to destroy. Form 2 - Humanity’s desire to burn. Form 3 - Humanity’s desire to gamble and take risks with lives. Form 4 - Humanity’s desire to use technology for nefarious purposes. Final form - Humanity’s desire to use their hands for evil. True form (core of Yami) - A fish. The belief that evil can come from something so small and unappealing and the origin of evil.
it's not a fish, it's a fetus... also, if he's a fish, that that the natural self-FISHness of humanity that is the cause of all sins, or Lust.... But lust is cool now, right guys?
I actually loved how he wasn`t known by almost anyone.I don`t like when the final boss has so much storyline to him, it makes him just too well-known if you understand what i mean.I love how Yami is so mysterious.
y'know something Yami has that Akuro never had is symbolism and implication, while Akuro is a lot of a generic antagonist "i will destroy everything" type of guy, Yami's nature is something else, off from the moon runes we see in Yami's armor we can gather he's actually related to the Moon Tribe in a more intimate way, and being described as the origin of all machinery (so most likely Yami is how the Moon Tribe ended up having so many technological wonders), Yami may be a small fetus-like fish inside an ball, but its designs, lack of personality and yet managing to be such an symbol of evil really pushes the message that evil has no reasoning to that way other than it just is, Akuro kinda disappoints as the successor to Yami for that very reason, i hope that if Okami 3 really does happen we get something that really takes what Yami was and pushes it into being even more threatning, i also would love some official origins for Yami because the most that we can gather is off from like 1 moon rune inside his true form's bowl and while thats cool and all i really wanna know who gave this fish a mech and why he possesses the same markings as the gods
I know you’ve posted this comment 4 years ago, but I just want to say. It’s a loooong battle. Even with the purification parchments it still took me a good 20min lol
This song is actually PERFECT for this fight. The way the more sinister bits constantly and abruptly cut the heroic bits off is amazing. It's as if even the music itself is fighting between good and evil.
The only boss battle where I died. It was horrifying at first because I thought "NONONO! Yami will take over!" Then I realized that I had a completely full Astral Pouch and I went right back up. It made me realize just how much the makers of the game REALLY didn't want you to die. They made it so easy to play through the game without even actually dying once; I bet the reason for this was so the player could experience the game without getting frustrated at constant death, like many other games.
Yeah considering the maker, Hideki Kamiya himself, who is also the maker of Devil May Cry, well known for its difficulty. I mean, he can absolutely make the game as difficult to his desire if he wants to. But it just make no sense, the game wants you to sits back and relax and enjoy the arts while telling a story (which you are a part of interactively) and touching your heart. The difficulty is moderate, to the point where this still reminds that you are playing a game and fighting monsters and giving you that kick, but not to the point where it becomes stressful.
when i first saw Yami i was like... ''Yami is a ball?'' and then he opens and im like, ''OH! my bad, its a tiny fish in a tiny ball!'' BEHOLD THE MASTER OF EVIL!!! A FISH THINGY!
Why is Bowser a big Turtle? Why is Ganon a Pig? Why can't Yami be a fish? There are plenty of odd villain designs in games, I don't think there is any real reason for it, other than needing some sort of odd characteristic.
People like to seek meanings in places that probably don’t demand it. I guess an enigmatic villain like this sort of ignites the imagination but ultimately there’s no telling whether it’s supposed to be deeper or if a designer just thought it was funny
It sounds hollow, cold, wailing, and writhing with despair... an incredible embodiment of evil has been waiting for you and you alone for a century, and it's now come time to fight it powerless.
yami's problems are simple, he got almost no backstory, neither motives(aside from be the god of darkness and the origin of all evil), and he doesnt even talk, putting this things together makes really hard to understand him, bosses like crimsom helm and the twin demons doesnt talk neither, yet you got a good amount of bacstory from the others characters, making you understand what they are and what they do or done, its really funny that bosses like blight and spider queen, who got almost no importance to the plots as general talk. now about yami being a fish, in my concept, he is protected by a large metal sphere that represent sin, no one can ever touch him without purify all those sins, thoses sins make yami menacing and powerful, but when you beat all of those, what rest? a defenseless little creature, yami got his powers from the flaws of his oponnet, but got none from himself.
Yami is the ultimate, formless evil, the mirror of Amaterasu. I think the lack of detail is intentional. To the end he is shrouded in mystery and, well, darkness, which explains his odd appearance, lack of dialogue, everything. It makes an incredible final boss experience. That's what I may have to add, I like your idea on the fish.
Ryuuji Latham Amaterasu got a backstory, why she is doing everything, but Yami, he is pure evil, the absolute void and darkness, as the idea of the sin, he is empty of everything, so he is evil. Has the evil an origin ? No, so Yami don't have any origin, he is just here, making the darkness, as Amaterasu is here just making the good.
How I see every Yami form First form: Mocking Amaterasus inability to fight without her divine instruments Second Form: Mocking Amaterasus Solar Flare Third Form: Mocking Amaterasus Tundra Beads Forth Form: Mocking Amaterasus Thunder Edge Final form: Mocking Amaterasu as a goddess
And your point? I love both the protagonists and antagonists equally. I know that they're rivals, but that's entirely the point. The antagonist is ALWAYS the opposite to the protagonist. Ammy is life, Yami is death. Ammy is white with red markings, Yami is black with cyan markings. Ammy is nature, Yami is artificial. I already know all that, but I still love Yami above all. Cuz he's cool and cuz I can. Besides, SOMEONE needs to love the villains.
That mostly makes sense, but where are you getting the idea that Yami is black with cyan markings? Both its first and it's true forms are black with red markings.
@@anonymousalien7417 The true form of Yami is inside the sphere. See that little ball? Well that's him. He's like fish fetus inside a bowl. There you can see his cyan markings.
@@outofmyriver7346 Oh. I knew he was a Koi, but I never saw the cyan markings. I play on the Wii, so it's kind of hard to see detail in the smaller objects in the game.
@@maxrichards3881 I must disagree. I have plenty of fun replaying Data Xemnas (the super boss Version of that fight) again and again and Story Xemnas is not that hard. I love these Data super boss fights.
I can't be the only one who find it amazing that I have played through Okami 3 times, and each time I beat this boss fight, I got an S rank, right? (S rank is where the trees for both Time and Damage are blooming.)
well next up is the gathering of the stray beads. The reward is really cool, dont spoil it for yourself if you dont already know it. I played through okami about 5 times, 2 of which i have gathered the stray beads in. if you get the S-rank for the whole game (after the credits i think) then you can call yourself a good player
I have no idea why, but I've become obsessed with Yami. And I don't usually get obsessed with evil things. At least, I don't think I do. Maybe it's because he's really powerful.
The storyline was amazing!, One of the reasons I kept coming back to see what happened next!, I don't really think you needed to get to know Yami, you knew he was evil, the only thing that wasn't really explained was his backstory, either that or I can't remember it.
Because it was inscribed in LEGEND. The fact that he had been waiting on that ark for God-knows-how-long To Destroy Ammy makes him an even more Dark and intimidating enemy.
The Forms and Their Meaning of Humanity and Evil: Red Ball = Desire to Destroy Green Ball = Desire to Incinerate Blue Ball = Desire to Gamble and Take Risks Yellow Ball= Desire to Create Machines of Mass Destruction Final Form = Evil Comes From Human Hands Core (Fish) = Evil starts small
I feel like the final form isn't "Evil comes from human hands" as everyone says it is, but rather the fact that, in the end, it is not the evil that infected humanity, but humanity that created the evil, hence a hand, as hands are often times associated with creation rather than infection.
In that case, I think a lot of the enjoyment of the game passed you by unfortunately. I enjoyed Okami so thoroughly because of how deeply engaging its characters and story were, and it's sad that it didn't make the same impact on everyone, but oh well. Still though, I'm glad you enjoyed the parts of the game that you did.
I honestly don't know why people hate Yami, I mean, he was actually a worthy opponent and pretty fun to fight. I personally think he's my favorite(maybe because of the OC's I draw of them xP ). I haven't really seen him do much in the game, I just wish he had more to do with the whole story, like the story of Orochi terrorizing Kamiki Village.
Relating back to what Jhugh95 said, you don't even know who Akuro is until the second game comes out, much less figure out that he is the controller of Yami, while in Okamiden everyone you meet has at least heard of Amaterasu once. Amaterasu is known due to she herself going out and saving everyone, while Akuro uses other mediums to do his work, only known until the very end.
Underrated analogy, seeing as a Dandelion is a natural thing, spawned from nature itself. And the lawnmower is a creation of humans, as a way of shaping the world to suit our preferences, regardless of natures rules.
I think i get it. Their really was no build build up for yami. While it is established that he's the main villan it's all focused on late in the game. And the bits you do find out early aren't really focused on long enough to give you a feeling that he's the one responsible for everything else that happed to you.
I've been through quite a journey, haven't I? Every step.. Every action.. They all led to this moment. I.. I have to bring all light and hope back to the world we all love. Yami, as we all know, is a fish with similar markings to mine, but blue. He has engolfed himself into a machine and brought darkness to the world out of pure SADNESS and RAGE. He wasn't having a good life, so why should they? Thus begun the darkest times.. The darkest hours.. I.. am against Yami. I.. am Okami Amaterasu.
Unfortunately I can tell you that I didn't have any of those moments. The moment I cared about the most was when Susano revealed his skepticism, and when he wasn't a fool. I wasn't sure what to expect from the storyline. It was an immersive world, but not really an immersive story. Aside from the difficulty, the story is one of my negative points, but aside from that, the game was fun, enjoyable, and probably the most creative game I have ever seen, and I hope to play through it again soon.
The storyline was absolutely incredible, and I would argue one of, if not the, best gaming story lines of all time. The game managed to invest you so much into each and every character you met, which in turn allowed for them to do some incredible things with the plot while making people still care about it. Don't tell me you didn't at least get some hair standing on end when Oki's sword lit up, or when Amaterasu was revived by the people of Nippon's prayers.
@Ilovemariofan I wrote my comment after beating Okamiden. It is really a good sequel. Even if Clover dissapeared, Okami still lives and has a bright future...That is why I want too see more of Yami
"First Form: Humanity's desire to destroy. Second Form: Humanity's desire to burn (use wood and coal and damages nature). Third Form: Humanity's desire to gamble (aka risk their and others lives). Fourth Form: Humanity's desire to use energy for destructive ends. Final Form: Humanity's uses their hands for evil. True Organic Self: Something so small can be very dangerous and anything born is innocent but can become evil." -quote by 18bryflo11 He truly the embodiment of all that is evil.
@tehjonbro NO. He's not actually a seal in a hamster ball, thats his true form, but I can see why people think that since it does look similar. Also, his main body isn't really a bouncy ball, its a giant inorganic shell that seems to be able to morph. But he is epic.
@Danitushful Actually form one represents Man's desire to destroy, form 4 is Man's desire to use technology Form 5 can also be described as humanity uses its hands for evil. And don't forget the core which represents that great evil can come from something small. In a sense Yami is the representation of humanity's primal vices..
It makes sense with in the context of the game since much of the game is about casting out evil where ever it may be possible. I don't think the game is anti human at all but it does show case that evil can come from places we least expect.
@CaptainAnamaria He's a seel thing with no hands. Even in his 4th form it's difficult to hold a paintbrush with what appears to be... idk, energy whips? You'd have to be indiana jones to paint even just a circle with that.
There's an interesting dichotomy between Yami and Amaterasu that you may not realize - while Ammy is certainly more than she seems, while Yami is LESS than he seems. The true form of Yami - the thing that is in its core, is a small, probably helpless fish-like creature. Without that protective armor, and its dark power and its manipulations, Yami is nothing but a sad sack of evil meat.
Friendly reminder that we have NEVER been given any official context for what any part of Yami’s design means or has been derived from. This mystery has not been made any more clear even after a decade. It’s entirely possible that they literally just did it because they thought it was funny.
You know, what I never understood was why Waka's swords(one of which is essentially a lightsaber) couldn't do anything to Yami, but Amaterasu's teeth and claws could do damage.
You can surely afford it, pre-owned versions can be really cheap and yes, you MUST try it. It's very different from Okami but it's nonetheless one of the greatest PS2 experiences. It's funny, hard and just fucking badass all the way.
@colonel24567 They didn't go bankrupt, and they've come back as Platinum Games. They've released a few games including Bayonetta which has a bunch of references to Okami, Devil May Cry and Viewtiful Joe. Heck, the best weapon is Pillow Talk. Yes, that Pillow Talk. Also, Okamiden! You're wrong on both counts, and it must feel great.
@Doomed100 Also, it seems as if Yami is a machine-type of form, while no other technology exists across Nippon. If you add it together, then its possible the creators are suggesting that technology is the root of all evil.
Aw, I'm a little disappointed this doesn't have the original name for the song in-game; "The Emperor of Darkness" If that isn't the name of a final boss theme, I don't know what is.
the theroy is that its supposed to be symbolic that even the weekest/inoccent things can be capable of the biggest evil. plus i bet it was a being of light before akura got his greedy eye on him
![[Music] Okami - Rising Sun](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VZxK58tPU4I/mqdefault.jpg)
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I actually really liked how you basically only really hear about Yami once, from Ninetails. It sort of makes him the opposite of Amaterasu - Ammy's the center of the pantheon of gods, and the most well known, whereas Yami, as the mastermind of darkness, is so good at manipulating others to do his work that only the highest ranking demons are even aware of him, let alone the rest of the world. Discovering him is supposed to feel like discovering evil's secret.
that's an incredibly well put explanation
@@DivineBeastVahMedoh I agree wholeheartedly, props to you @jhugh95 !
That’s an amazing explanation. I always thought about him like this, but couldn’t put it into words. Great job.
It is cool to me that nobody has any idea what yami is, that’s probably why they took the opportunity to make his design so out-of-left-field
The bestiary (and art book) says Yami has never been represented as a man, nor animal, as it is simply too inorganic...
massiveliam
Representing the black part of Yin-Yang, basically, Okami is the opposite of Xenoblade.
Yin - Yami
Yang - Zanza
@@maxrichards3881 nice
And in spite of that, the prevailing theory is that Yami represents humanity’s sins. I always thought that was a little off. I like the idea of him being something weird and primordial
it's a fetus.
@@Kattycha bro that not giygas xd
Not gonna lie, when I used the mist ability on Yami’s slot machine form and I saw the spirit of Queen Himiko throwing health orbs down, the biggest smile grew on my face
tennis baby
I loved it when Oki helped me out when I used Blizzard.
Broooo that’s so cool
@@maxrichards3881 How did Oki help I used Blizzard and Oki wasn't there
@@mattdubz6890
He shows up during the animation and deals out a ton of damage, like how Suzano joins with a sword attack if you use crescent and Queen Himiko gives you healing items if you use veil of mist.
As someone who's never played Okami I'm sure you can imagine how confused that sentence makes me.
People go on about how Yami's forms represent the evils of humanity. But are we just gonna ignore how Yami, the fish, has the same markings on his body as the Brush Gods?
Except the brush gods are white with red markings.
Like Reshiram, eastern dragon, nature.
And Yami is black with blue markings.
Like Zekrom, western dragon, technology.
The symbolism of contrary forces is deeper than you can ever imagine.
@@vtp1223 yami is the literal antithesis of the celestials, the perfect opposite
@@techlevel80 while the brush gods are many equal beings that guard nature and goodness, and are powered by the praise they earn from personally helping others, Yami is a single, selfish being that abuses and spreads technology and evil, and powers itself by influencing mortals to act in its name instead, spreading fear of what it represents.
@@maxrichards3881plus Yami's markings are more rigid, looking like circuitry, whereas the brush gods markings look like they're painted on, being more curvy and such.
I always wondered if that’s supposed to imply some kind of connection to divinity, like yami’s something similar to the brush gods or if it’s just coincidence.
Friendly reminder that all of Yami's forms were the flaws and evils of humanity.
So basically Ammy was almost killed by those she was trying to protect.
ya true that
Source?
Nope. Never comfirmed!
Why would it have to be confirmed? It's symbolism, it doesn't need to be confirmed.
iamverysmart
Who knew that a terrifying, dark, and powerful ruler of evil was a small fish?
Darkness's power only comes from hiding in darkness. Its not really much when actually exposed.
Owenvee Makes sense too considering Yami is supposed to be the complete opposite of Ammy.
Its to show that all evil starts small
Aunisty Switzer its to show that evil can come anyting no matter theyr form or size that evil starts from everithing and all is stages show how we humans participate in evil all the time the hand speacialy
Some Big Ass Chicken Who Can't Think of a Creative TH-cam Name So That's Why It's Long It's looks like the dark half of Yin&Yang to me....
I am still amazed: how the HELL did they manage to make a giant ball menacing? Because it IS menacing!
alessio messersì the roar, the things it represents it’s all pretty scary
*To be menacing, all he does is stands there...*
*MENACINGLY!*
The scariest, most horrifying creature - symbol of all that is wicked and demonic
It's
...the baby fish.
i think part of it is how he's the only enemy in the entire game, let alone boss, who is jsut seeminglky COMPLETELY mechanical and unnatural looking. Even other monsters looked like animals or had fleshy bits. Not to mention a complex machine in feudal japan. He looks completely out of place.
Tokoyami no Sumeragi, the Emperor of Everlasting Darkness, and the darkness that resides in all of us.
Form 1 - Humanity’s desire to destroy.
Form 2 - Humanity’s desire to burn.
Form 3 - Humanity’s desire to gamble and take risks with lives.
Form 4 - Humanity’s desire to use technology for nefarious purposes.
Final form - Humanity’s desire to use their hands for evil.
True form (core of Yami) - A fish. The belief that evil can come from something so small and unappealing and the origin of evil.
*Surprised Ammy face*
for a simple boss, he have so many significations in your atacks
it's not a fish, it's a fetus... also, if he's a fish, that that the natural self-FISHness of humanity that is the cause of all sins, or Lust....
But lust is cool now, right guys?
Ōkami had some of the best music in gaming history, and in my opinion, Yami's theme is amongst the top 10
LYRICS: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!
Aisu Tistoto Plus organ
You forgot “HHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGG”
lyrics: *fans screaming*
Holy Shit I forgot i made this. Lmao so many replies. AND SO MANY LIKES @-@
Funny thing, when you knock Yami out of his mech, he looks around a little, as if to say “What?” before freaking out.
I actually loved how he wasn`t known by almost anyone.I don`t like when the final boss has so much storyline to him, it makes him just too well-known if you understand what i mean.I love how Yami is so mysterious.
I swear the coolest part was using the Moon brush and seeing Yami get cut in two by the spirit of your old friend and ally.
y'know something Yami has that Akuro never had is symbolism and implication, while Akuro is a lot of a generic antagonist "i will destroy everything" type of guy, Yami's nature is something else, off from the moon runes we see in Yami's armor we can gather he's actually related to the Moon Tribe in a more intimate way, and being described as the origin of all machinery (so most likely Yami is how the Moon Tribe ended up having so many technological wonders), Yami may be a small fetus-like fish inside an ball, but its designs, lack of personality and yet managing to be such an symbol of evil really pushes the message that evil has no reasoning to that way other than it just is, Akuro kinda disappoints as the successor to Yami for that very reason, i hope that if Okami 3 really does happen we get something that really takes what Yami was and pushes it into being even more threatning, i also would love some official origins for Yami because the most that we can gather is off from like 1 moon rune inside his true form's bowl and while thats cool and all i really wanna know who gave this fish a mech and why he possesses the same markings as the gods
Much as I'd love it, I don't think Okam3 is happening 😔
@@jongameaddict It was mentioned some time ago that Okami 3 was actually planned.
Considering his markings have the opposite color theme, maybe he's supposed to be the devil to Amaterasu's God.
this is why akuro isnt canon he isnt as cool
Speaking of Ōkami 3
This boss battle was so long. Like, it was a battle. The whole thing probably took me a good 30 min to complete
I know you’ve posted this comment 4 years ago, but I just want to say. It’s a loooong battle. Even with the purification parchments it still took me a good 20min lol
Only 30 minutes?? When i fought against Yami in my first gameplay, it took me like an hour and he nearly killed me
All right yami. You stole my power and killed waka. Time for some WOLF FU!!!!!!
TheFrostFox ok Chuggaaconroy...
Wolf kung fuuuuuuu
Waka is alive.
Doggo powers
The ruler of all evil is a goddamn fish inside a Bakugan
despite all my rage, i am still just a fish in a ball
truly the greatest evil of mankind
BAKUGAN
This song is actually PERFECT for this fight. The way the more sinister bits constantly and abruptly cut the heroic bits off is amazing. It's as if even the music itself is fighting between good and evil.
this song realy catches the feel of what yamis truly capable of makes you feel out matched and down right helpless its a tad creepy
The only boss battle where I died. It was horrifying at first because I thought "NONONO! Yami will take over!" Then I realized that I had a completely full Astral Pouch and I went right back up. It made me realize just how much the makers of the game REALLY didn't want you to die. They made it so easy to play through the game without even actually dying once; I bet the reason for this was so the player could experience the game without getting frustrated at constant death, like many other games.
This game wants to tell a story, not punish you and tell you to get gud.
Yeah considering the maker, Hideki Kamiya himself, who is also the maker of Devil May Cry, well known for its difficulty. I mean, he can absolutely make the game as difficult to his desire if he wants to. But it just make no sense, the game wants you to sits back and relax and enjoy the arts while telling a story (which you are a part of interactively) and touching your heart. The difficulty is moderate, to the point where this still reminds that you are playing a game and fighting monsters and giving you that kick, but not to the point where it becomes stressful.
You can actually use Rejuvenation to patch up those holes. ;D
WolfPawsGreaserGirl damn I didn't know :o
when i first saw Yami i was like... ''Yami is a ball?'' and then he opens and im like, ''OH! my bad, its a tiny fish in a tiny ball!'' BEHOLD THE MASTER OF EVIL!!! A FISH THINGY!
Looks like this snack doesn't smile back.
This music sends chills up my spine
+MacyPooh196 mine too, but also awesome to tune into
Why is Bowser a big Turtle?
Why is Ganon a Pig?
Why can't Yami be a fish?
There are plenty of odd villain designs in games, I don't think there is any real reason for it, other than needing some sort of odd characteristic.
Some reasons are for symbolism
People like to seek meanings in places that probably don’t demand it. I guess an enigmatic villain like this sort of ignites the imagination but ultimately there’s no telling whether it’s supposed to be deeper or if a designer just thought it was funny
It sounds hollow, cold, wailing, and writhing with despair... an incredible embodiment of evil has been waiting for you and you alone for a century, and it's now come time to fight it powerless.
1:38 just makes the song for me. so epic.
Theme of the Evil Jawbreaker
what i like the most is that because he's mysterious and all that, it makes him easier to put into any fan-fics or comics
yami's problems are simple, he got almost no backstory, neither motives(aside from be the god of darkness and the origin of all evil), and he doesnt even talk, putting this things together makes really hard to understand him, bosses like crimsom helm and the twin demons doesnt talk neither, yet you got a good amount of bacstory from the others characters, making you understand what they are and what they do or done, its really funny that bosses like blight and spider queen, who got almost no importance to the plots as general talk.
now about yami being a fish, in my concept, he is protected by a large metal sphere that represent sin, no one can ever touch him without purify all those sins, thoses sins make yami menacing and powerful, but when you beat all of those, what rest? a defenseless little creature, yami got his powers from the flaws of his oponnet, but got none from himself.
Yami is the ultimate, formless evil, the mirror of Amaterasu. I think the lack of detail is intentional. To the end he is shrouded in mystery and, well, darkness, which explains his odd appearance, lack of dialogue, everything. It makes an incredible final boss experience. That's what I may have to add, I like your idea on the fish.
Ryuuji Latham Amaterasu got a backstory, why she is doing everything, but Yami, he is pure evil, the absolute void and darkness, as the idea of the sin, he is empty of everything, so he is evil. Has the evil an origin ? No, so Yami don't have any origin, he is just here, making the darkness, as Amaterasu is here just making the good.
cant deny this battle is pure badass
also his fish body represents all evil starts small
Danothyus He has mybe no backstory but the Symbolism of Yami is amazing.
How I see every Yami form
First form: Mocking Amaterasus inability to fight without her divine instruments
Second Form: Mocking Amaterasus Solar Flare
Third Form: Mocking Amaterasus Tundra Beads
Forth Form: Mocking Amaterasus Thunder Edge
Final form: Mocking Amaterasu as a goddess
My favorite part is at 1:43 when that steady beat comes in after the dark part. It always pumped me up.
And your point? I love both the protagonists and antagonists equally. I know that they're rivals, but that's entirely the point. The antagonist is ALWAYS the opposite to the protagonist. Ammy is life, Yami is death. Ammy is white with red markings, Yami is black with cyan markings. Ammy is nature, Yami is artificial. I already know all that, but I still love Yami above all. Cuz he's cool and cuz I can. Besides, SOMEONE needs to love the villains.
That mostly makes sense, but where are you getting the idea that Yami is black with cyan markings? Both its first and it's true forms are black with red markings.
@@anonymousalien7417 The true form of Yami is inside the sphere. See that little ball? Well that's him. He's like fish fetus inside a bowl. There you can see his cyan markings.
@@outofmyriver7346 Oh. I knew he was a Koi, but I never saw the cyan markings. I play on the Wii, so it's kind of hard to see detail in the smaller objects in the game.
@@outofmyriver7346 Okay, I just looked at a close up of him, and there is definitely cyan markings. You guys were right.
A theme fitting for the Ruler of Darkness that wishes to plunge the world into Eternal Darkness.
One word to describe this.... EPIC!!!!
+FefeTheWolfLover you are NOT wrong ^^
One of my two favourite Final Bosses together with Xemnas.
Xenmas and Yami should team up.
Yami and ZANZA!
Xenmas was FAR too difficult to be satisfying in any way.
@@maxrichards3881 I must disagree. I have plenty of fun replaying Data Xemnas (the super boss Version of that fight) again and again and Story Xemnas is not that hard.
I love these Data super boss fights.
I can't be the only one who find it amazing that I have played through Okami 3 times, and each time I beat this boss fight, I got an S rank, right? (S rank is where the trees for both Time and Damage are blooming.)
well next up is the gathering of the stray beads. The reward is really cool, dont spoil it for yourself if you dont already know it. I played through okami about 5 times, 2 of which i have gathered the stray beads in. if you get the S-rank for the whole game (after the credits i think) then you can call yourself a good player
I have no idea why, but I've become obsessed with Yami. And I don't usually get obsessed with evil things. At least, I don't think I do. Maybe it's because he's really powerful.
The storyline was amazing!, One of the reasons I kept coming back to see what happened next!, I don't really think you needed to get to know Yami, you knew he was evil, the only thing that wasn't really explained was his backstory, either that or I can't remember it.
Yami is the embodiment of the dark desires of humanity, the creators of technology.
Me: HOLY SAIX!!! THAT THING IS HEE-YUUUUGE!
Yami: *shows true form*
Me: ...a goldfish? That's it? A GOLDFISH?!?!?
It's supposed to represent that all evil starts out small
It's gotta be Orca
Because it was inscribed in LEGEND. The fact that he had been waiting on that ark for God-knows-how-long To Destroy Ammy makes him an even more Dark and intimidating enemy.
This battle was really something! Such great music
when shit gets real.
The Forms and Their Meaning of Humanity and Evil:
Red Ball = Desire to Destroy
Green Ball = Desire to Incinerate
Blue Ball = Desire to Gamble and Take Risks
Yellow Ball= Desire to Create Machines of Mass Destruction
Final Form = Evil Comes From Human Hands
Core (Fish) = Evil starts small
I feel like the final form isn't "Evil comes from human hands" as everyone says it is, but rather the fact that, in the end, it is not the evil that infected humanity, but humanity that created the evil, hence a hand, as hands are often times associated with creation rather than infection.
Ronald Cooper and where’d you hear that from, Chuggaaconroy? That was merely his own interpretation, there’s no official source confirming it.
In that case, I think a lot of the enjoyment of the game passed you by unfortunately. I enjoyed Okami so thoroughly because of how deeply engaging its characters and story were, and it's sad that it didn't make the same impact on everyone, but oh well.
Still though, I'm glad you enjoyed the parts of the game that you did.
I honestly don't know why people hate Yami, I mean, he was actually a worthy opponent and pretty fun to fight. I personally think he's my favorite(maybe because of the OC's I draw of them xP ). I haven't really seen him do much in the game, I just wish he had more to do with the whole story, like the story of Orochi terrorizing Kamiki Village.
Relating back to what Jhugh95 said, you don't even know who Akuro is until the second game comes out, much less figure out that he is the controller of Yami, while in Okamiden everyone you meet has at least heard of Amaterasu once. Amaterasu is known due to she herself going out and saving everyone, while Akuro uses other mediums to do his work, only known until the very end.
truly the most fun battle of the entire game. A really fitting end to the game
Light: a dandelion
Darkness: the lawnmower that cuts it down
But the dandelion always comes back, only to be struck down
Underrated analogy, seeing as a Dandelion is a natural thing, spawned from nature itself.
And the lawnmower is a creation of humans, as a way of shaping the world to suit our preferences, regardless of natures rules.
The greatest of evils really do come from the smallest of things. Even a little fish-foetus thing in an oversized Bakugan.
ah, yes, the final boss: orb
I simply LOVE this music. Especially this part: 1:37 to 2:00!! SIMPLY LOVE IT!!!!
"Really? As if those last five repeated bosses weren't enough?"
Damn, i love this game.
I think i get it. Their really was no build build up for yami. While it is established that he's the main villan it's all focused on late in the game. And the bits you do find out early aren't really focused on long enough to give you a feeling that he's the one responsible for everything else that happed to you.
I've been through quite a journey, haven't I? Every step.. Every action.. They all led to this moment. I.. I have to bring all light and hope back to the world we all love.
Yami, as we all know, is a fish with similar markings to mine, but blue. He has engolfed himself into a machine and brought darkness to the world out of pure SADNESS and RAGE. He wasn't having a good life, so why should they? Thus begun the darkest times.. The darkest hours..
I.. am against Yami. I.. am Okami Amaterasu.
Clown piece A fetus, not a fish I think.
I love the beginning of the piece.
I have to approve of your choice, you seem to have good taste.
I still love this song! I'm so excited for the new game omg 🌸
Unfortunately I can tell you that I didn't have any of those moments. The moment I cared about the most was when Susano revealed his skepticism, and when he wasn't a fool.
I wasn't sure what to expect from the storyline. It was an immersive world, but not really an immersive story.
Aside from the difficulty, the story is one of my negative points, but aside from that, the game was fun, enjoyable, and probably the most creative game I have ever seen, and I hope to play through it again soon.
@TheLilcatfishy ...that was beautiful. No idea what it meant, but it was definatly deep.
The storyline was absolutely incredible, and I would argue one of, if not the, best gaming story lines of all time. The game managed to invest you so much into each and every character you met, which in turn allowed for them to do some incredible things with the plot while making people still care about it.
Don't tell me you didn't at least get some hair standing on end when Oki's sword lit up, or when Amaterasu was revived by the people of Nippon's prayers.
Yami nothing more than a tiny blob inside a big robot :3
+Latiran He's a fish.
Something seems a little FISHY about that....
Yami was a dark koi fish... the yin in "yin and yang"
@Ilovemariofan I wrote my comment after beating Okamiden. It is really a good sequel. Even if Clover dissapeared, Okami still lives and has a bright future...That is why I want too see more of Yami
And in one fell swoop, chuggaconroy took over the entire comment section
"First Form: Humanity's desire to destroy.
Second Form: Humanity's desire to burn (use wood and coal and damages nature).
Third Form: Humanity's desire to gamble (aka risk their and others lives).
Fourth Form: Humanity's desire to use energy for destructive ends.
Final Form: Humanity's uses their hands for evil.
True Organic Self: Something so small can be very dangerous and anything born is innocent but can become evil."
-quote by 18bryflo11
He truly the embodiment of all that is evil.
Sounds like something from final fantasy,but perfectly fits in this game!!
Akuro was probably not even invented before Okamiden.
@tehjonbro NO. He's not actually a seal in a hamster ball, thats his true form, but I can see why people think that since it does look similar. Also, his main body isn't really a bouncy ball, its a giant inorganic shell that seems to be able to morph. But he is epic.
Always interesting to me the shift around 1:40 and then again later
*Forgets all the brush techniques..*
FFFFUUUUUU-
@Danitushful Actually form one represents Man's desire to destroy, form 4 is Man's desire to use technology Form 5 can also be described as humanity uses its hands for evil. And don't forget the core which represents that great evil can come from something small. In a sense Yami is the representation of humanity's primal vices..
It makes sense with in the context of the game since much of the game is about casting out evil where ever it may be possible. I don't think the game is anti human at all but it does show case that evil can come from places we least expect.
There is nothing to tell. Yami was just an evil mass of dark energy that was bent on destroying and killing everything.
@CaptainAnamaria
He's a seel thing with no hands.
Even in his 4th form it's difficult to hold a paintbrush with what appears to be... idk, energy whips? You'd have to be indiana jones to paint even just a circle with that.
My first thought: It's a ball with a hand on it. How bad could this be?
[five hours later]
HOW HAVE I NOT DONE ANY DAMAGE TO HIM STILL?!?!
There's an interesting dichotomy between Yami and Amaterasu that you may not realize - while Ammy is certainly more than she seems, while Yami is LESS than he seems.
The true form of Yami - the thing that is in its core, is a small, probably helpless fish-like creature. Without that protective armor, and its dark power and its manipulations, Yami is nothing but a sad sack of evil meat.
Friendly reminder that we have NEVER been given any official context for what any part of Yami’s design means or has been derived from. This mystery has not been made any more clear even after a decade. It’s entirely possible that they literally just did it because they thought it was funny.
You know, what I never understood was why Waka's swords(one of which is essentially a lightsaber) couldn't do anything to Yami, but Amaterasu's teeth and claws could do damage.
can't remember during, but after(when the battle resumes), is called either Rising Sun, or The Sun Rises. People use both a lot =/
This song is so epic.
This song sounds so mystical, lugubrious and extramundane ! it's absolutely intriguing and passionating to hear
You can surely afford it, pre-owned versions can be really cheap and yes, you MUST try it. It's very different from Okami but it's nonetheless one of the greatest PS2 experiences. It's funny, hard and just fucking badass all the way.
1:32 - 1:38 anyone else get a pokemon diamond and pearl vibe?
Sealion Lover I think this part appeared in the capital, I don't remember where tho
It has a giratina esque vive
@colonel24567 They didn't go bankrupt, and they've come back as Platinum Games. They've released a few games including Bayonetta which has a bunch of references to Okami, Devil May Cry and Viewtiful Joe. Heck, the best weapon is Pillow Talk. Yes, that Pillow Talk.
Also, Okamiden! You're wrong on both counts, and it must feel great.
@TheSuperEricWarshot
1. He never speaks.
2. Ninetails mentions him before the bossfight.
3. Yes he is actually.
One of the best themes I have heard
@CloudGaara9 yeah, well, there are many theories about what its Yami... but one thing its sure, he is the darkness itself
@Doomed100 Also, it seems as if Yami is a machine-type of form, while no other technology exists across Nippon. If you add it together, then its possible the creators are suggesting that technology is the root of all evil.
Aw, I'm a little disappointed this doesn't have the original name for the song in-game; "The Emperor of Darkness"
If that isn't the name of a final boss theme, I don't know what is.
i know, but im pointing out that it also kida looks like Yami's final form. The moon had the same appearance when fighting ninetails.
final boss
I haven't played this game in a long time. I should.
Tatsunoko Vs Capcom U.A.S. announcer: Ready? Fight!
Dude, I am Shiranui. That's just the name that the people of Kamiki called me cause they didn't know who I really was.
@MrAuthor3DS The quote is by 18bryflo11 (I acknowledged him at the end of the comment). It was just such a great quote that I had to spread it.
the theroy is that its supposed to be symbolic that even the weekest/inoccent things can be capable of the biggest evil.
plus i bet it was a being of light before akura got his greedy eye on him
Yami....The most villianous fish you'll ever encounter.
Marco Diaz: Prince of Dragons vs. Robin: Ruler of Darkness.
(This music plays)
ever notice how the symol behind the word "Okami" kinda looks like a ball with a hand on it?