Were the officials unfair to Fiji compared to Wales?

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    Were the officials too lenient on Wales tonight compared to Fiji?
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  • @thomasorif3653
    @thomasorif3653 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +237

    I'm neither fidjian nor welsh and it still felt like this referee was trying his absolute hardest to keep Wales afloat. He gave like, what, 4 warnings in this entire game? Was he thinking about giving a card on the 5th? 🤨

    • @gabrugger
      @gabrugger 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Maybe not the 5th, probably 7th warning then the card will come out

    • @rhyd1109
      @rhyd1109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      4 warnings? You’re joking right? It was 4 infringements and in the fourth there was a warning then literally the next wales penalty was yellow. What game were you watching?

    • @jenifernaidoo7231
      @jenifernaidoo7231 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@rhyd1109Good question What game were You watching seems more appropriate

    • @carwyngriffiths
      @carwyngriffiths 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There want 4 warnings though! Did you even watch the game? It was 4 minor infringements with a warning on the 4th and then a yellow. The Fijian yellow was a major infringement which was, collapsing a moving maul meters from the line. He’s lucky it wasn’t a penalty try (which it should have been) let alone the fact he never picked up fijis repeated offside nor them coming into the ruck from wherever they pleased.
      That’s not even mentioning raising up in the scrum twice.

    • @Tlevids
      @Tlevids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "keep Wales afloat" it was the four tries and 248 tackles that kept Wales afloat, or are you claiming that the ref was responsible for those too? 😂

  • @CamusAl
    @CamusAl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    World rugby need to stop naming a UK official to referee one of the UK teams! Conflicts of interest are so obvious and it hurts Rugby badly! You won’t see that in Football!

    • @creekyknee
      @creekyknee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Football, oh yes that sport of kings.

    • @canadiancontent352
      @canadiancontent352 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good point. There are very close ties btwn Wales and England. More questions to answer for a reffing performance than say a Saffa, French men or otherwise doing the game

    • @BonuxCouleur
      @BonuxCouleur 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Agree at 100%, UK refs are so crooked. Old club mentality. Fiji got robbed.

    • @cozzyinternet4706
      @cozzyinternet4706 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      because the Prince of Wales was watching, obviously!

    • @himurakenshin1012
      @himurakenshin1012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      comparing refs from football to rugby match officials is the worst thing you could have every done, football refs are very well known and controversial for having bias attitudes.

  • @maxmccarthy5327
    @maxmccarthy5327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Carley should never ref again

    • @rogerdeiss4172
      @rogerdeiss4172 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Fully agree…👏

  • @CamusAl
    @CamusAl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Why do they have to name an English referee for a test match involving Wales?! Has Wales just become independent from UK?!
    Fidji should have got at least one penalty try!

    • @readesiun988
      @readesiun988 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I have asked the same question for many years, British refs should not be refereeing a British team

    • @dupontthebest8104
      @dupontthebest8104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly...there should be Latin refs for such games

    • @Tlevids
      @Tlevids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It seems most of you French folk don't understand how national identity works in Britain 😂

    • @mixodorians12
      @mixodorians12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a political union, like the EU you numpty. You going to ban Italian refs from reffing France?

    • @croulantroulant3082
      @croulantroulant3082 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Tlevids You have the same passport, same government, same army, same team in the olympics. and play together with the Lions. So explain to me again why this is fair because of "national identity"....

  • @dennisherold7887
    @dennisherold7887 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Inconsistency at its best. Fiji unfortunately played against 16 men.

    • @petedudson6671
      @petedudson6671 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well he was consistently biased...

  • @Paranoid1970
    @Paranoid1970 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    As a french, this is the most unfair referee i've seen since the 2011 world cup final. Welsh people should not be very proud of their team tonight, they just manage to use all their experience and trickery to trifle with the rules. They showed unfair play by stopping the game and gaining time, and systematically did cynical foul play when fijians were close to score. The ref was just speaking at the captain when it should be cards or penalty tries... and just later fijian got a yellow card on their first penalty in their 22. We can also talk about the litigious denied try, the multiple no arm tackles and offside welsh players that Carley didn't penalize.
    The best team lost tonight and it was painful to watch.
    Carley almost ruined the best match of the week- end so far, as well as the chance of an historic win and qualification for the Fijians.
    Nonetheless well done to Fiji, good luck against Australia.
    Keep on flying guys!

    • @dupontthebest8104
      @dupontthebest8104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As a French too, we have been robbed more than once 😂 we start getting used to it, when we see that the ref is a native English speaker...It wasn't the same with Matthieu Raynal this weekend. His reffing was simply perfect...He's an uncorrupted man

    • @jadeb1412
      @jadeb1412 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Wales world cup will not last too long... For rugby sake, it's better😂

    • @gaffers446
      @gaffers446 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Au contraire, mon ami.... Wales 241 tackles against Fiji's 70. Against a very physical and fast Fiji team in very hot conditions. I am very proud of that performance. Fiji also infringed many many times in most ruck situations that were ignored which you failed to mention.

    • @iloveBigTits
      @iloveBigTits 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said...Wales played hard and fast at the start but bad sportsmanship at the end as Fiji had the momentum to possibly win took away all their credibility!
      Great game to watch but left a bad taste in everybody's mouth's...🤔🤢

    • @jrhartley4819
      @jrhartley4819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wales played excellent rugby, as did Fiji. Best game of the world cup and both teams were a breath of fresh air.

  • @rob-nz6342
    @rob-nz6342 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Neutral observer here, but that was very controversial performance by Referee Carley, Wales should have definitely been yellow carded for repeated infringements. Remember Carley was the Ref who carded 2 All Blacks in 2 mins for repeated infringements, bringing them to 13 men, only a couple weeks ago. Today's performance was wildly inconsistent with his own standard set in the AB v Boks games.

    • @colinmeehan791
      @colinmeehan791 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Should be on the first plane home.

    • @MeanAzz_13
      @MeanAzz_13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well said Rob, I'm a *KIWI* and we *deserved* 2 yellows and 1 red, but quite clearly the same Ref is showing *blatant inconsistency!*

    • @JPFranken
      @JPFranken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      very sad. At the end i wanted Fiji to win because of the ref

    • @seanpadraigobrien1260
      @seanpadraigobrien1260 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He's fixing games. Should be banned.

    • @hannotn
      @hannotn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MeanAzz_13 We did deserve it, but Carley was going nuts with the whistle in that ABs-SA game, like he wanted to be the star of the show.

  • @tuimoala6000
    @tuimoala6000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    After watching those game its like more than a game,Its so sad for us to see Tier 1 teams gaining advantage from the official...😢
    Yesss Im proud to be a FIJIAN 🥺☝️

    • @sercirokovatuniulelekitoga7931
      @sercirokovatuniulelekitoga7931 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Peter-xu3zothe referring is rubbish 👊👊👊

    • @georgesaurouel9652
      @georgesaurouel9652 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      French public was all behind you. You’ve just have been stolen as our team has been many time with english referees. Defeat and honor for you. Shame on wales and Carley

    • @pauldurkee4764
      @pauldurkee4764 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@georgesaurouel9652
      I don't know if you remember the France v Wales game in 2017, that's the one where they played about 100 minutes, and allowed your countryman to swap a prop forward for a crucial scrum near the Welsh line.
      Shame on Wales, Wales weren't making the decisions, whether good or bad.

    • @orisiloco6424
      @orisiloco6424 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@Peter-xu3zodon't be such a baby ....just admit that u guys win by ref.....

    • @gwynevans6440
      @gwynevans6440 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@georgesaurouel9652 How old are you? If you're an adult, you really need to sort yourself out. Get help.

  • @123buraikake4
    @123buraikake4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The Fiji Times online had already predicted that the referee would be the number 1 enemy of Team Fiji.

  • @morkandmindy7826
    @morkandmindy7826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +292

    One of the single worst, most one sided, incosistent, utterly awful displays of reffing I've ever seen in 40 years of watching rugby. Carley was disgraceful.

    • @tracque_5677
      @tracque_5677 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      That performance by Carley can be seen as nothing other than an Englishman taking revenge on the side who beat his country for the first time ever only weeks ago. Absolutely shameful!

    • @forret
      @forret 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Don’t associate Charley with us. He’s had his English card rescinded

    • @rogerdeiss4172
      @rogerdeiss4172 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He does this every year during the 6 nations…

    • @86sfar
      @86sfar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Fully agreed, what an absolute disgrace!!

    • @pauldurkee4764
      @pauldurkee4764 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You should have watched the France v Wales game in 2017, the one where they played nearly 20 extra mins, and allowed the french to swap their prop for someone feigning injury, that was a beauty.
      It shouldn't happen at this level but it does, even Jaco Peiper overlooks things.

  • @TheHolyNazareth
    @TheHolyNazareth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    A great game but sadly you cannot not talk about the reffing which was inconsistent to say the least. The Fiji team should be frustrated for the double standards showed by M. Carley. A second yellow card for Wales seemed only logical and might have changed the final result. Why is a British nation like Wales reffed by a British ref? Why wasn’tit possible to have a Japonese or Georgian ref for this game?

    • @Tlevids
      @Tlevids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because Wales and England are different nations with a strong sporting rivalry. If anything, a Welsh ref is more likely to be biased against England than against any team playing them.

    • @croulantroulant3082
      @croulantroulant3082 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I've been saying this for years. Brits will say, like poster above, "oh but we hate each other". And then they go on to play together with the Lions. And surprisingly there is no "strong sporting rivalry" in the olympics....where the UK has a single team. This is part of the reason why rugby has not grown internationnally like football.

    • @michaelodonnell824
      @michaelodonnell824 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tlevids Carley was born within sight of Wales....Wonder where his family is from?....

    • @Erictheking07
      @Erictheking07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tlevids bute

    • @Tlevids
      @Tlevids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@croulantroulant3082 Ever think that maybe the people that live in Britain and Ireland understand this better than you do 😂

  • @pauliek4403
    @pauliek4403 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Ref was definitely wearing his Welch jersey tonight, Wales should have multiple yellows

    • @pauldurkee4764
      @pauldurkee4764 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You learn one thing with refs, even at this level, accept every bit of good fortune coming your way.

    • @jamesphillips7885
      @jamesphillips7885 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Theirs 2 red calls aswell. 1 to biggs and 1 to fiji

    • @patrickfarrell5092
      @patrickfarrell5092 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was that an English ref in a Welsh game?
      That doesn't sound right 🤔

    • @pauldurkee4764
      @pauldurkee4764 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patrickfarrell5092
      If you think that having an official from a fellow 6 nations country in a game involving Wales is an issue, then thats going to produce a refereeing problem is it not?

  • @MoUNTYB0ii
    @MoUNTYB0ii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Refs are killing the game. Yellow cards for an accidental head clash, but repeated infringements on Wales try line and nothing.

    • @Silvius.2
      @Silvius.2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This was most creepy from referees!
      Even watching on screen and nothing was happening. Wales player never was tackling - only jumping into side of ballkeeper!
      This should be an try if he rumping only into!

    • @XxRemixerzxX
      @XxRemixerzxX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Repeated minor infringements are not yellow card worthy. Offside is not worthy of a yellow in a million years

    • @MoUNTYB0ii
      @MoUNTYB0ii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@XxRemixerzxXThank that cheating ref you's got the win, ya blind wan kerrr🤣🤣🤣

    • @thetmes6133
      @thetmes6133 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@XxRemixerzxXRepeated while defneding and preventing tries is however...

    • @XxRemixerzxX
      @XxRemixerzxX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not the referee's fault that Fiji couldn't score from 5 meters@@thetmes6133

  • @MoUNTYB0ii
    @MoUNTYB0ii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I did not know who this ref was untill the last fortnight, I know him now. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mintee094
    @mintee094 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    It's a case of consistency for the ref at critical points of the game. It's done now, and I hope for the sake of the game it gets addressed. Great performance from both teams!

  • @iansinclair7581
    @iansinclair7581 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Matt Carley proved yet again why he should not be a World Cup referee.

  • @anguilini7425
    @anguilini7425 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    Wales makes 4 penalties: Warning
    Fiji makes one: Yellow card.
    Yeah Fiji got robbed.

    • @WelahMan
      @WelahMan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They collapsed a rolling maul it should have been a penalty try

    • @jimmyobrien8738
      @jimmyobrien8738 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@WelahManwasn't close enough to the line

    • @rhyd1109
      @rhyd1109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You don’t understand rugby

    • @anguilini7425
      @anguilini7425 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@WelahMan You did 4 (FOUR!!!!) penalties in a row, and you gor barely warned. Then after same thing happened before the third Fiji try, you got warned too, and even did another penalty, but the play ended in the Fiji try, so the ref jus let it pass. You should have been yellow carded at least 2 more times. Fiji was robbed today.

    • @carwyngriffiths
      @carwyngriffiths 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jimmyobrien8738did you even watch the game? Clearly not if that’s what you think.

  • @redmondo42
    @redmondo42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Biggar going spare at North was pure comedy gold

    • @kaeso101
      @kaeso101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro we were watching at home and everyone was laughing.. like WTF they teammates 😂😂

    • @alexandertalbot3054
      @alexandertalbot3054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He was furious because he should of passed left to Rhys zammit , zammit had open space to run the pitch and he’s the fastest player in world rugby today and would of probably scored

    • @thejdmstash
      @thejdmstash 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alexandertalbot3054watch it back, he's telling him to kick it out

    • @dupontthebest8104
      @dupontthebest8104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@alexandertalbot3054 not at all 😂😂😂 first, Rees Zammit is far from the being the fastest player, what a joke. And Biggar shouted at North because they should have kicked the ball into touch instead of playing it close to their try line. They could have easily been intercepted and it was half time. They were just stupid 😅😂 so Biggar was right

    • @alexandertalbot3054
      @alexandertalbot3054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dupontthebest8104 ok yeh maybe the ball should of gone out but I disagree Zammit is far from the fastest player.

  • @jpb7887
    @jpb7887 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Worst referee ever in World Cup. Atrocious referee decisions on not sending several Welsh players to the sin bin after 4 repeated infringements while Fiji were attacking in the Welsh try line.
    17 Welsh penalties to fijis 9 and only 1 Welsh player sin binned never mind the time wasteing

    • @orisiloco6424
      @orisiloco6424 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That should be a penalty try my brother....show much biased from the ref

    • @86sfar
      @86sfar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The Fiji scrum literally marching straight to the try line, and it gets brought back???!!!!! WTF!!!

  • @Farzocalypse21
    @Farzocalypse21 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Biggar definitely should have got a card. Fiji had huge numbers left and just needed to get the ball out, he knew that and deliberately killed it, averting a try.
    Very different treatment of both teams, unfair on Fiji.

    • @XxRemixerzxX
      @XxRemixerzxX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re so blind, don’t watch rugby if you can’t see how much Fiji got away with their infringements

    • @brianzungu3249
      @brianzungu3249 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@XxRemixerzxXyou the only person in the world with this view.

    • @XxRemixerzxX
      @XxRemixerzxX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brianzungu3249 stop being biased, just because you’re fijian supporter doesn’t mean your emotion can change fact

    • @brianzungu3249
      @brianzungu3249 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@XxRemixerzxX I'm South African. My blood is green. I am a Rugby supporter and cheating refs are killing the game.

    • @RobertFall
      @RobertFall 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@XxRemixerzxX coming from a neutral, he's not wrong. The Welsh team made Fiji supporters out of everyone last night, and the biased ref broke the world's heart.

  • @NaKoroGamer
    @NaKoroGamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    The whole world saw how these refs and TMO are bias.

    • @evilrusty1824
      @evilrusty1824 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The English Reff taking revenge for the defeat of the English team 2 weeks ago and prepared well to be shite

    • @iloveBigTits
      @iloveBigTits 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TRUE...
      Love your channel and videos BTW bro! Keep up the great work!!! 🙌🏾 "YOU THE MAN!!!..."
      VINAKA 🏝💪🏿🇫🇯

  • @xMouffffx
    @xMouffffx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    As a Welsh, i do feel very sorry for Fiji. Refs were super bias and as much as i am happy my team won, it feels like a very disappointing win. Fiji deserved that one, even with the cahnces they had.
    Gem dda Fiji!

    • @Erictheking07
      @Erictheking07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wales were leading by 18pts mind?? Scored 4 tries . Fiji dropped the ball not wales .. if the result was the other way, you wouldn't be getting ohh poor Wales.. .on here or ref this or that. More to come

    • @cozzyinternet4706
      @cozzyinternet4706 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Respect to Wales though,
      they played a good game

    • @hannotn
      @hannotn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Erictheking07 But the outcome doesn't determine whether Fiji got a fair shake or not. Wales played better, Wales deserved to win, in my opinion. But it doesn't change the fact that Carley was blatantly biased and that shouldn't happen. Yet it always does happen and the teams it happens most to are the Pacific teams.

    • @Erictheking07
      @Erictheking07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@okuhtttf course they did .. 🙄 🙄 😒

    • @okuhtttf
      @okuhtttf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Erictheking07 th-cam.com/video/e8rcuYCJQS0/w-d-xo.html

  • @cameron3203
    @cameron3203 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Glad someone picked up in this. Fiji win that game if its reffed fairly.

    • @rhyd1109
      @rhyd1109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If reffed fairly Fiji would have been penalised for going off feet at every ruck

    • @thegreenmine8546
      @thegreenmine8546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rhyd1109 they still would have scored 2 more tries.

    • @rhyd1109
      @rhyd1109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thegreenmine8546 reffed properly Fiji’s 3rd and 4th would never have counted

    • @thegreenmine8546
      @thegreenmine8546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rhyd1109 Wales did not deserve that win. You can comb through the match a 100 times and find whatever makes you feel better about your team. Bottom line is Fiji were the better team on the day, and Wales would have never won the match without a crooked ref. And this is coming from a neutral

    • @rhyd1109
      @rhyd1109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thegreenmine8546 fiji clearly weren’t the better otherwise they wouldn’t have been down by 18 points. Just say you wanted fiji to win don’t need the bullshit of saying you’re a ‘neutral’ because you’re clearly blind to the numerous infringements by the Fijians

  • @canadiancontent352
    @canadiancontent352 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Very classy by AWJ. Justin Marshall, Jeff Wilson, John Kirwan take note

    • @benkay1390
      @benkay1390 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chill out re the Kiwi pundits mate, it’s the same the world over. The SA crew are the worst.

  • @nemanidelaibatiki8444
    @nemanidelaibatiki8444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I’ve been looking for this all morning- glad we have some honest pundits
    Im a bit perplexed/ upset the captain and coach didn’t make a bigger deal of this

    • @lightbringer_555
      @lightbringer_555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They know it's useless...this is reality...we are the ones that have to do better

  • @MrRikouz
    @MrRikouz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Naming a UK ref for a game implying a UK team is already scandalous and risible.
    France and Italy have to go through that every year in the 6N. And when there is a doubt, it's rarely in their favor.
    Same goes for Australia and NZ, there are strong family ties with the UK after all.
    World Rugby needs to change that if they really want to improve the game.
    Fiji was the first victim in this WC, no doubt there will be more.

  • @sylvaindromaint3101
    @sylvaindromaint3101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I love when the Irish media can take the opportunity to criticize an English referee! It is enjoyable because it was the sad reality!

    • @johndanter7834
      @johndanter7834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or anything good about Wales.
      The Irish media fecking hate Wales.
      Either they won't talk about them in a 6N context too FFS or they will talk about them but only to slag them off
      Probably due to BOD and us turfing them out of numerous GS and RWCs
      Come on Wales

  • @Isaac-muntz
    @Isaac-muntz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its very difficult to win when your playing against the ref

  • @rogerdeiss4172
    @rogerdeiss4172 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Carley is a biaised and incompetent ref. That s not new…so is Brace…it’s well known…

    • @alexandregarcia9726
      @alexandregarcia9726 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly those 2 refs!

    • @dupontthebest8104
      @dupontthebest8104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As well as Barnes...

    • @Thatiscutebr0
      @Thatiscutebr0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least brace would have the stones to call the Welsh out on their BS and actually card them/March them back

  • @nogamenolife705
    @nogamenolife705 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Ref missed so many infringements against Wales. Fiji were hard done.

    • @lovejoy131
      @lovejoy131 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He didn’t miss them he just ‘ignored’ them.

    • @nogamenolife705
      @nogamenolife705 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lovejoy131 does no favours to the idea that the top nations get all the support. I felt Fiji deserved at least a draw if not a win. I really hope they can get a result against Australia and get into a quarter or higher. They play good positive rugby.

    • @rhyd1109
      @rhyd1109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He penalised basically every infringement of wales and was completely blind to what Fiji were doing

    • @springwater3723
      @springwater3723 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rhyd1109I feel like he started milking it for Fiji after that yellow card

    • @Sourdust
      @Sourdust 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rhyd1109Wales conceded 17 penalties, all of them deserved. Fiji conceded 9 penalties, only about 26 of which were deserved...

  • @evanderkolli1234
    @evanderkolli1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Congrats Wales...
    We Fijians are far more the happiest people on earth...keep on smiling..All the best in your next game guys😢❤😊🙏🙏🇫🇯🇫🇯

  • @Stacey16......
    @Stacey16...... 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Wales were extremely lucky only to have 1 yellow card tonight

    • @morgandunn8163
      @morgandunn8163 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But we're the better tram because they one lol

    • @lepepito
      @lepepito 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2 yellow card for repeated infringement on line. 1 yellow card for the captain of wales for losing so much time coming back in line after penalties and tries during the last 20 minutes

    • @brynmullett5011
      @brynmullett5011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Paddy,s moaning again ,I hope the Scots knock em out.

  • @loveadventures88
    @loveadventures88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Fiji should have win that game by big margin. Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 won by the poor and unfair refereeing

    • @rhyd1109
      @rhyd1109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You clearly didn’t watch the game

    • @user-os2cr8is9b
      @user-os2cr8is9b 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rhyd1109you got lucky to win by one try. Face it. And the ref helped you majorly.

    • @briton3851
      @briton3851 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-os2cr8is9b what a ridiculous thing to say, wales dominated 65 mins of the game and gave fiji plenty of oppurtunites to get points back, fiji were not good enough and werre lucky not to be given a penalty try against them for collapsing a mall, u know nothing about rugby u juts like to hate on the welsh

  • @opposites_twins01
    @opposites_twins01 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Come on guys Fiji had good last 15 mins and those two early tries that’s it. Irish supporting Fiji over wales we will be hoping Scot’s beat you now as well as the boks virgin media what a load of crap

  • @killedthequizzer
    @killedthequizzer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    As a Welshman I’m obviously really happy with the result but Wales we’re lucky with the ref no doubt. Fiji were great and probably deserved more

  • @venianarabua437
    @venianarabua437 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If the officials were unfair or fair that's their business I AM A PROUD FIJIAN AND WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT MY TEAM FIJI💪❤ FOR FIJI EVER FIJI 💪❤

  • @Cyrille1536
    @Cyrille1536 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So many faults in the 22 by wales but the first yellow was for fiji. Unbelievable

  • @mizofan
    @mizofan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    AWJ listening to the Irish gutted and complaining that Wales didn't lose

    • @bernieone1
      @bernieone1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya 😂

  • @user-kv7nw3yy9f
    @user-kv7nw3yy9f 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The ref shud be investigated. Very poor in officiating such clinical games

  • @jackkain3970
    @jackkain3970 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Unlucky Fiji, it's tough when your playing against 16 Men

  • @kaeso101
    @kaeso101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    As a fiji fan..our two worst nightmares as fans came true in that match
    1. We had two "Paddy O'Brian moments" i.e the two disallowed tries that would have been tries which could have won us the match
    2. And one "Severo Koroduadua moment" i.e. Radradra blundering the potentiallly match winning try.
    Nevertheless Radradra shouldn't take it too hard on himself. My takeaway from this is that Fiji can legitimately compete..its really up to them to work on the flaws they had. But they did okay in all.

    • @duplicafly98
      @duplicafly98 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2. is unfortunate but it happens to every team at one point or another, as crushing as it is
      1. is only because you're a "small" nation and that's utterly unacceptable no matter how you slice it

    • @XxRemixerzxX
      @XxRemixerzxX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The disallowed tries were disallowed for a reason

    • @thegreenmine8546
      @thegreenmine8546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@XxRemixerzxX yeah, to keep Wales in the game.

  • @djharto4917
    @djharto4917 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I backed Fiji +5, i had a substantial amount of money on it. I’m fairly gutted

  • @Epicsportfix
    @Epicsportfix 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can remember as kid we played rugby after shcool with no ref we use to referee our own game while playing😂😂😂😂

  • @morgandunn8163
    @morgandunn8163 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Peope are making me laugh saying fiji shouldve one when wales were underdogs going into this game. And battered fiji first half

    • @JohnDoe-qn7ed
      @JohnDoe-qn7ed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your comment makes no sense. Wales being "underdogs" means nothing. That was just media hype. Fiji will always be underdogs to the established tier 1 nations.
      Wales were good in the first half, but not exactly out of this world. Fiji made mistakes in both halves, but the game was at their mercy at the end of the second. Poor decisions and handling errors cost them. Wales made some stupid mistakes as well. Ref helped them.

    • @morgandunn8163
      @morgandunn8163 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @JohnDoe-qn7ed but at the end of it wales one and wales had the hardest game of the home nations

    • @JohnDoe-qn7ed
      @JohnDoe-qn7ed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@morgandunn8163 You're forgetting Scotland faced SA.

    • @morgandunn8163
      @morgandunn8163 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @JohnDoe-qn7ed yeah and how did that go for them?

    • @JohnDoe-qn7ed
      @JohnDoe-qn7ed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morgandunn8163 Keep bragging till Australia/Argentina smash you.

  • @benwalker1135
    @benwalker1135 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The way rugby has gone is almost like they’re playing football. The refs have been so inconsistent it’s comical

    • @Andre-ig2bm
      @Andre-ig2bm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even in football it's rarely that obvious, let alone at a World Cup.

  • @welshwarrior5263
    @welshwarrior5263 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a Welshman, it's easy for me to say that Fiji were robbed.

  • @anthonymistry7093
    @anthonymistry7093 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ref should be banned

  • @jamesjones4596
    @jamesjones4596 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't have an issue with any referee so long as they are consistent. Unfortunately we didn't have that and the TMOs have been generally poor on that score across the tournament as a whole

  • @spikeyapplesseashells9233
    @spikeyapplesseashells9233 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Csrley shouldn't reff again ever. He is not qualified for a professional game as the world cup..

  • @ciliaboteisuva
    @ciliaboteisuva 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Pooooor decision by ref 😡

  • @barrythomas9571
    @barrythomas9571 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oh so the calls the ref were all wrong and in favour of Wales, sounds as though the whole world favoured Fiji, well done Wales you deserved the win, credit where credit is due, close at the end, but that's sport and it could have happened to any player.

  • @_jungle2281
    @_jungle2281 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's gonna be really hard to win a game when the opposing team got the ref by their side.

  • @user-yk1ly3sw8q
    @user-yk1ly3sw8q 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SO PROUD TO BE A FIJIAN! Ref needs a recourse on honesty over pigmentation.

  • @carl0985
    @carl0985 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Congrats Wales, Vinaka. 👍

  • @miketelford8323
    @miketelford8323 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If this man referees another game in the world cup it is a disgrace,this performance has put a stain on the world cup,

  • @user-Steele42
    @user-Steele42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate when reffs do that. Warn after 4 or 5 infringements then still keep warning but on the other team don't hesitate and don't miss any infringement

  • @TheFurreid
    @TheFurreid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    in the mould of Craig Jubert..

  • @ChenShan-zl6nd
    @ChenShan-zl6nd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Player's commit the mistakes not referee or officials by knock on several times that causes their downfall with convertion unsuccessful

  • @jasong6784
    @jasong6784 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Matthew Carley, please step aside mate. Bench yourself for the rest of the tournament.

  • @mattcartrefi9140
    @mattcartrefi9140 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What ridiculous punditry, "we watched this match as Fiji fans" when sat next to a recently retired Welsh player. AWJ must have been itching to get away.

  • @Karma-qt4ji
    @Karma-qt4ji 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Carly did not card Wales earlier and he also did not card Wales for the next infringement after they were carded, because of the flak he copped from NZ after their loss at Twickenham.

  • @Profitikosministry5761
    @Profitikosministry5761 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why was the Welshman disguised as an English referee? Multiple yellow cards were not given to Wales? @IRB Rugby World Cup 2023 under scrutiny for professional favouritism ! His actual identity is being shared on Fijian websites! A Welshman being a referee not a neutral official, South African or Argentinian?

    • @mixodorians12
      @mixodorians12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probaboybthe same reason why Fijians English and Irish fans cannot lose matches without crying like little bitches.

  • @aboshark8452
    @aboshark8452 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Daylight robbery

  • @user-pw3oj2xn2t
    @user-pw3oj2xn2t 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    worst referee ever😂😂😂

  • @countycricklewood
    @countycricklewood 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Totally and absolutely! 3/4 infringements and 3 warnings. No yellow? Fiji do 1 and get yellow? Inconsistency as per from the refs. Scotland v Bokke? Total headclash caused via Bokke player! Red all day long according to new rulings a mirror image of Tom Curry incident, straight red! Somehow it’s not even reviewed via the ref orTMO?
    How/Why?

  • @mickymouse6285
    @mickymouse6285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This ref should be send home. sicken to watch. the ref killed the game and changed the outcome.

  • @sianitambini3912
    @sianitambini3912 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Wales rode their luck a bit, but nearly 250 tackles by the Welsh is a great defensive showing. Fiji should be proud, but they need to cut out their mistakes in downing their Tries otherwise they would have won.

  • @johnpullen72
    @johnpullen72 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    St Patrick the native Welsh man a was smiling on Wales that be sure

  • @mtw9471
    @mtw9471 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Refs should change at half time. One person ref first half and a different ref for the second half. The Scotland v South Africa wasnt great either. We seem to be at a point where we can't say anything about the ref, so its good that its discussed here atleast.

  • @c-maxprime
    @c-maxprime 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was one of a thrilling game to watch. Unfortunately ruined by bad refreeing and officiating refs. For the love of rugby, this was the worst refed game.

  • @rajneshsingh9426
    @rajneshsingh9426 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was the double movement justified and did it apply in that situation...

  • @tonic1667
    @tonic1667 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Allwyn seems like such a good guy, he has a quality beard, also donor hair looks thick he should get a transplant on top.

  • @kkor5849
    @kkor5849 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alwyn jones what a legend and added respect for his honesty. Unlucky game but well done to wales for getting the rub of the green. The match is done but hopefully worldrugby will look at this and instill some consistency....Rugby is rugby...well done lads

  • @wynfordwilliams7016
    @wynfordwilliams7016 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are to many people wearing their hearts on their sleeves here. Fiji went off their feet constantly at the mauls, there were numerous Fiji no arms tackles, there was a clear forward pass before a Fiji try, they dropped the ball over the line and failed to score, the last action of the game was a shite pass. Why don’t you get over the fact you were not good enough to win. If Wales can’t beat Australia, then they don’t deserve to progress. You people are using the ref as an excuse for not winning. It’s a sad indictment of your overall understanding of the game (which probably many of you haven’t played). You make your own luck, you take all your chances then, any referee decisions dont matter. STOP YOUR WHINGING. You beat Australia, no ref cross examination or complaints there.👍🏻

  • @lukerichards4135
    @lukerichards4135 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Serious question, are you all only just seeing this?? Referees have been gifting Wales for years, its infuriating

  • @user-iw4bu2jw1t
    @user-iw4bu2jw1t 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sack the referry

  • @rjones2213
    @rjones2213 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree, I back any team that plays Ireland

  • @igsaan8573
    @igsaan8573 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    4 warnings in 4 minutes. What the hell 😮
    Poor Fiji

  • @koicolo
    @koicolo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If it was any other ref ,Fiji would have 5 points. There should be a lesson here .Never allow a British ref to officiate at a world cup game between UK nation and non UK team .I actually think this should be subject to an investigation ,it was an injustice and a stain on the integrity of the rugby world cup.

  • @Red-Revolution708
    @Red-Revolution708 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look at the score in the 70th min Wales 32 - Fiji 14 then Fiji decide to play rugby, we got a Fijian player coming on from a yellow, Wales are down a player until 78 min, Fiji then decide let’s go and play rugby.
    Credit to Wales it was an utter barnstormer of a defence, they were hitting the Fijians backwards, the score line matters not could haves, or should haves, you learn that in boxing early, Fiji lost Wales won and credit to them they could have done it easier.

  • @desodea1656
    @desodea1656 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As Irish i hope we win the world cup, but the Irish rugby crowd are Hard to listen to, arrogant

  • @DdraigGoch84
    @DdraigGoch84 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fiji weren’t innocent out there. Lots of coming in from the side that wasn’t given. But overall we, Wales, were very lucky at the end. Deserved a card.
    Shame about the controversy though as it was otherwise a great game of rugby. Some nice free flowing stuff from both sides and a lot of defensive work going in. Both teams did lack discipline though. But that’s what makes it interesting at times! 🤷‍♂️

  • @shintenkai1648
    @shintenkai1648 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not just that game. The france v namibia game was absolutely horendous, i've witnessed lesser drops of the ball being not rewarded a try and apparently its a new rule that you dont have to be in control of the ball when touching down a try apparently your hands dont even need to be involved!!! This goes against every bool and video i've read and watched about the game of rugby.
    Officiating has become a way for world rugby to control/participate in the game itself.

  • @jaanc8047
    @jaanc8047 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This referee did not hesitate to give NZ two yellow cards in the first 14 minutes of the warm-up game on August 25 which SA 35-7 NZ. You have to wonder why he didn't yellow carded Wales. The only excuse is he only give yellow cards to successive mauling and lineout offenses (which NZ committed), while he doesn't think other successive offenses are cynical.

  • @Zidane-oj6yu
    @Zidane-oj6yu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Anglosaxon referee as usual, as a frenchman i empathy with the fijis they just discover anglosaxon corruption, an englishman refereeing a british team lol

    • @pete9328
      @pete9328 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The English and Welsh have the biggest rivalry in all of rugby! Why would an English referee help wales ?

    • @Dogselfie
      @Dogselfie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@pete9328fiji just beat refs team

    • @2sanimelanin881
      @2sanimelanin881 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      great Britain

    • @CymruEmergencyResponder
      @CymruEmergencyResponder 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you understood our history you’d know that Wales do not like England because of what England has done, and continues to do, to Wales.

    • @rogerdeiss4172
      @rogerdeiss4172 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pete9328
      Cos they have the same passport…🤷‍♀️

  • @Alias-gy3tz
    @Alias-gy3tz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do you turn off the comment section on certain videos?

  • @gannonleslie9045
    @gannonleslie9045 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its time referees also get a red card and be suspended for a few weeks without salaries

  • @user-yh9sn2ln2h
    @user-yh9sn2ln2h 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How can we keep rugby clean when referees not doing their job properly
    That ref should be taken to task or is it just racism in rugby

  • @iansimpson6618
    @iansimpson6618 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tier 2 will always be up against 16 on the field. When Fiji becomes a Tier one team, then we will see what happens. As for those penalties . In my opinion, Fiji made the mistake of trying to chase 7 points rather than take 3 and possession kicked back into its arms, When there was so little time on the board, (ten minutes), they lost precious time on scrums. I get super frustrated when teams pile on the phases, get within yards of a try and then get a penalty and go for 3. I hate it, so dream of winning the lotto and setting up NGP Rugby ( No goal posts) lol. Love to see the Fijians going for it, BUT if it was such a good idea every Tier 1 team would be doing it, so the fact they all take the 3, means there must have been quite a bit of thought gone into this scenario and conclusion has been to take the 3. I think if Fiji had taken 3 every time Wales offered it up Fiji would have won the game. I am thinking the ref , being a tier 1 ref, was giving away 3 points as punishment. How was he to know that Fiji was going to persist in a fashion almost unknown in T1 Rugby. Preeep ! Take the 3. Preeep! Take the 3. Preeeep! Take the 3 Preeeeep!! for Gods sake take the 3

  • @WinterWeaver
    @WinterWeaver 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the illegal line-out throw from wales, that resulted in a try? Was clearly illegal, no-one flagged it.

  • @hunterluxton5976
    @hunterluxton5976 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The irish were supporting Fiji. Thrir opinion was couloured by their bias.

  • @user-os2cr8is9b
    @user-os2cr8is9b 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Disgraceful from the whole officiating team.

  • @opposites_twins01
    @opposites_twins01 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wales 32 Fiji 26 that’s all folks

    • @Tlevids
      @Tlevids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed. Are they going to claim next that the 4 Welsh tries and 241 Welsh tackles were also due to the ref? 😂

    • @fobmaster
      @fobmaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Tlevids yeah your team had to make 241 tackles with giants running at them at full speed 😂

    • @Tlevids
      @Tlevids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fobmaster Indeed, and overall they did a good job of it (especially in the second half) with only 18% tackles missed compared with Fiji's 37%. Also, as large and strong as the Fijian pack is, the total weight of both teams was identical.

  • @andthenwhat3506
    @andthenwhat3506 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fiji, on your nxt game, when scoring tries, look for where the camera is and ground the ball in clear view for the TMO (then do this to the camera
    👉👌 as a friendly gesture to the watching TMO).😂

  • @rosscobosco
    @rosscobosco 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THE REF WAS BORN IN FKN SWANSEA!! FACT. RIDICULOUS!

  • @Maine733
    @Maine733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clearly unfair to me!

  • @richardjohnston3359
    @richardjohnston3359 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor Alun wyn bit out numberd there with them figi fans. .Have virgin media done a England review or they not doing one for England v Argentina cant seem to find it 😂👍🏻

  • @The_Absolute_Dog
    @The_Absolute_Dog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In all my years, I have never seen such one sided refereeing as this match. What an utter disgrace

  • @donnybrascocoliogne819
    @donnybrascocoliogne819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fiji got ROBBED.....Just added 🔥 to FIJIS next run and WILL get to the Q.F.......Hope this would not happen to their Pacific brothers (Samoa and Tonga). ❤❤❤❤

    • @fobmaster
      @fobmaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nah man. Losses like really fks with the mentals. Hope Fiji can get over it quick and go again. This game hopefully puts referees on high alert for the Samoa and Tonga games so they dont do the same fk up as this ref did for Fiji

  • @kingxcoconut2552
    @kingxcoconut2552 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regardless of what stage we are playing in pacific island nations teams will always go through this everytime it’s more like world rugby doesn’t want the South Pacific to grow in the international stage..to my tokos of MMT Tonga and to my USO of the MANU SAMOA Ball out and do your Best regardless of the results We Are Proud You and We are Also To be PACIFIC ISLANDS.. PACIFICA WARRIORS ✊🏾✊🏾