eg626 That depends on your personal interpretation of Minecraft. No 2 players have the same view of it, because it is a very personal and individual relationship that you have with the game. Some take it to the extreme that they actually act as though it is real life, and ignorantly commit heinous acts such as starving to death while playing it, so that is all the more why we as a have to foster the healthy and growing community of Minecraft players in our own society who have jobs and healthy lives and who are enacting their interest in the game in a healthy way.
Don't forget Islam is continually playing the victim and self victimizes it's own people and then blames the west for it. I hate to say it but they never should have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein, he kept all the balances in check.
‘If you believe Jesus is coming back very soon to kill everybody who doesn’t agree with him, how do you keep that out of politics?’. Hitch made so many things clear by uttering such penetrating questions
@@edwardtimothy3581 It is certainly not. I'm not Christian, but what all of them tell me is that Jesus will come back in the time of apocalypse, so save people who believe in him.
@@el_teodoro They believe Jesus is God They believe God created everything including Hell and Apocalypse They believe apocalypse would kill everyone Thus Jesus Kill everyone who don't believe in him. What's so hard for u to understand?
If you believe that, you don't take the Jesus of the New Testament very seriously. Such a "Jesus" would be someone else entirely. I know there are "Christians" who believe in such a nonsense. But their biggest problem is Jesus himself. He would be on Hitchen's side.
If people were immortal then sons would never leave the shadow of their fathers, daughters would never leave the shadows of their mothers, going back to our grandparents, then great grandparents ect ect; if we were immortal, then we would never be free. That's something Christopher's book 'Mortality' taught me at least- I highly recommend reading it.
Gude Balm Don't be lazy, read a history book on the 2 world wars, the great plagues, black death, the crusades etc, nothing happening now even comes close.
I watched the movie The Road a couple years back. It was one of the most depressing films I ever watched and it left me feeling rather hopeless for all the characters. A friend of mine watched it and he was filled with hope because of the bug that was alive and the plant - hints at life. Basically what I'm getting at is you can have 100 people watch a movie or read a book (bible or Quran) and get 100 completely different interpretations of it. I just wish we could all agree that these are just movies and books, and there's nothing profound beyond that. Nobody is murdering each other over their interpretations of The Road because nobody takes it literally. That's what makes religion so incredibly dangerous.
@@Chief_Bill A very noble sentiment Bill, but in my personal view I doubt it. Most people are born and brainwashed in a house of “god” since birth, it’ll take effort, commitment and a lot of reading and searching (Science) for truth (reality) rational skepticism and critical thinking to sink in, things that most people, although capable of, won’t do for fear to be condemned by their sky daddy. For as long as there’s fear of death the invisible product of religion will thrive, for arrogant man invented his immortality out of his refusal to accept that he is nothing more than just another animal, in his hubris he had to exalt himself above all the other beasts. Edit: Cheers 🍻 to Hitch and to enlightenment.
@@AFMMarcelD I haven't studied the roots of religion or the details through which religion and atheism work, but I just have this vague idea that we're becoming more and more secular. Modern science has played a huge role and I'm just feeling that atheism is becoming more common. I highly doubt we'll get religion off our backs easily, it won't happen, and even if it does, personal faiths will still exist (although that's not my business). But our extinction is certainly a long way ahead, provided something horrible doesn't happen, so I believe that atheistic societies will eventually win. It'll be very disappointing if they don't Cheers I hope the past 4 years (since you first commented) have been alright
@@Chief_Bill Very well written and expressed may I add, and yes, as an optimistic man we share same views, as a humanist, I’ve given my hand to my fellow man to help and to achieve and I’m certainly very proud of my 3 cats and one dog, I take great care of them and they return unconditional love and affection. I sincerely hope that mankind will rise to the challenge one day through critical thinking, rational skepticism and enquire through the only method and tools proven thus far to be accurate. (Science) Thank you for writing Bill, and Cheers 🍻 to enlightenment, very best regards to you and yours.
Why should anyone feel guilty for existing? Keep faith and magic out of government. That is the only answer. You can not involve doctrine and dogma that is not proven to be true into a social arena where lives are at stake. That is cause for great error and will ultimately be the destruction of human civilization. Support secular government.
Two thinking people. I wish there were more Christians like Sullivan and that Hitchens was still about to set people straight. I totally agree with Sullivan's 'glint in the eye' comment. There's plenty of fundamentalist Christians, in the USA especially, which would love to force people into their world view. They're as aggressive and dangerous as the fundamentalists on the other side. Normal peaceful people on both sides shouldn't have to suffer their nonsense!
I respect Tim Russert so much. He was a true moderator, he throws a question out there and lets the guests fight it out and dosn'et intervene. I wish more cable news shows do that.
I left Islam when I read the Qur’an and the biography of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam Now I live in Iraq and I can't talk about it even with my family I might be killed, and society will reject me, it's very difficult for me and many Arabs leave Islam every day, but they cannot announce that because they may be killed and of course society rejects them.
Stay strong, stay away from islam. Getting rid of apostasy and blasphemy-laws is essential, but more important is that decent human beings recognize that islam is far from decent, and do like you, and leave. Islam needs to wither and die in the minds of people, because the "holy" texts are vile, and cant be changed. At least not the quran, as you know, "Allah" himself said so....
What a walking encyclopedia of information Christopher Hitchens was. an absolute genius with a total grasp of the world. how frustrating it must have been for him to have been constantly surrounded by idiots. he was obviously too clever for this world. we have lost someone very unique.
This perfectly sums up how I have been feeling lately. We need a new intellectual to take over where Hitchens left off, and those are some galaxy-sized shoes to fill.
Very interesting clip-- I'm an atheist but incidentally found Andrew Sullivan's counterpoint much more engaging while watching this for the second time. Tim Russert, by the way, was a great example of a journalist who knew when to just sit back and let a discussion go its own way rather than incessantly and needlessly injecting personal commentary the whole time. Bravo!
How can a person deny that Israeli politics and Palestinian politics are not motivated by religion? How can anybody actually say this with a straight face.
I miss Hitchens' "honesty" and "intelligence" in his discourse. Of course, I also miss the best interviewer in the history of mankind, Russert. What a privilege it was for any reporter to interview Hitchens. (I believe in God, and ... I love honest sincere debate, and Hitchens was usually very prepared and intelligent). We just lost him way too soon ...
I don’t think I’d ever heard Hitch say “I agree” in a situation like this- but he was at least always capable of it. I have never heard some arguing against Hitch say it, and I cannot conceive of any religious apologist doing so. “A mind is like a parachute- it doesn’t work unless it’s open” (Frank Zappa)
Andrew seems like such a great guy to have a discussion or a debate with. He carries himself so well.I wish Hitch was still here.His voice of reason is desperately needed now.😔
If you're a moderate Muslim, you cannot say you don't believe in the Hadith. You have to say you believe in it, and you believe in something like "the penalty of apostasy is death". All Muslim countries criminalize apostasy, including moderate ones. If you ever disclaim support for that teaching, you are essentially saying the prophet was a liar. You can't do that. No moderate Muslim can do that. You can be jailed for it if you're caught, and you'll be sentenced to an eternity in hell cause you offended god. At least according to your beliefs. On the other hand, as an atheist, I get the privilege of saying I don't support the shit Hitler or Stalin did, because I don't have a burden to believe in a book of fairy tales that forces me to believe in Hitler or Stalin. I have logic and critical thinking. You have logic and critical thinking too, but you don't allow it to be more important than religion. So even if you think you don't support radical Islam, you contribute to making it powerful by just subscribing to the religion. You and the radical Muslims are two sides of the same coin, you believe in peace, they believe in terror, but you both believe in magic. You can't argue against a magic believing fanatic if you happen to be one yourself. So unless you place precedence on critical thinking over your sense of religiosity, you're never going to achieve peace.
Your understanding of Islam is very limited the hadiths are simply sayings of the prophet and sometimes even contradict the Quran. And also its beyond me how you can say that a regular person who wants to go to some place once in their life and fast for a month is the same as someone killing innocent people.
@@miromiro3927 those two people read and believe the contents of the same book. If you fail to see that, you are an apologist at best and a collaborator at worst. Islam is utterly incompatible with the western ideals of liberalism.
I conducted an interview with Christopher's brother Peter the other day, finishing on the last moments of Christopher's life. Anyone who is a fan of his will find it harrowing and enlightening.A real insight.Please watch and like if you enjoy
I must say (actual arguments aside), unlike many of Hitchens' other respondents... It is nice to see another person on the panel who can articulate his points well, and who actually infuses some substance in the defence of their position.
He was spot on when he spoke about christian fundamentalism and islamic fundamentalism..His statement about the"glint in the eye" of the likes of Jimmy Swaggart was absolutely correct and his statement is more relevant and truer today then it was 8 years ago.
Wondefully said Shy Talk! Couldn't agree more. To communicate and share one's ideas in an open manner is one thing. To organize such things into hierarchies of power which dictate what one should believe and how one should behave (santioned by threats in some cases even of death) is completely another.
Society is better, and getting better, because of people like Mr. Hitchens. It is up to the rest of us to continue his legacy by speaking up against religion and zealotry.
Its hard to concentrate on what Hitchens says, his voice alone and the manner in which he speaks, is enough to convince you of whatever the fuck he's saying.
Although I disagree with Hitchens in many areas, and his knowledge of Christianity was laughably limited, I admired his boldness in speaking up without fear. We need more of that.
Simonet1309 The only acceptable forms of Christianity in the modern day are the ones that defy the bible, and therefore not true Christianity. Christians today evolved over the centuries despite the bible and not because of the bible thanks to secular reasoning.
It bothers me when people make excuses for Islam by saying "its just a phase, Chrsitianity was violent once too". Like this is the 21st century, how can you make excuses for murdering children and beheading homosexuals? Moderate Muslims: please reform your religion
“He who has let go of hatred who treats all beings with kindness and compassion, who is always serene, unmoved by pain or pleasure, free of the "I" and "mine," self-controlled, firm and patient, his whole mind focused on me --- that is the man I love best.” ― Anonymous, The Bhagavad Gita tags: bhagavad-gita, stephen-mitchell
"Belief in no belief is still belief, belief in believing is also belief. " INcredulity is credulity? Disbelief is belief? How Orwellian. Antonyms are synonyms. WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. "Religions of peace"
Thanks, it is indeed. I am X Christian born in Eritrea. For me the reason to leave Christianity was because I couldn't understand why God would present this Bible that is open to interpretations. If it is really from God, he would make it in such a way only one interpretation would be possible. But look around these days...35000+ different Christian denominations and interpretations. That makes no sense.
Can someone explain the difference between nontrue and untrue? It seems like nontrue is a synonym but it's used in a logic context, so I don't understand what distinction Christopher Hitchens was drawing between the two.
@@duderyandude9515 no it isnt. Islam became a political entity from Muhammad and a few hundreds years on. The head of state was the same person as the head of faith, the khalif. Islam does NOT seperate the two in any way, sufficient knowledge of islamic doctrine would have told you so.
@@Timeren2010 I agree that a theocratic and totalitarian interpretation of Islam is easier to get to, in my opinion, but religion, including Islam, has been used to justify everything from communism to fascism. That’s the issue with religion; it’s false so there’s no TRUE interpretation. You can just claim that it’s metaphor or that it’s literal.
@@duderyandude9515 communism in general is not religious, quite the contrary. Also, i suspect you never read the quran Ryan. The verses that calls for the fighting, and subjugation, of non-muslims are NOT metaphorical at all. They are very very VERY explicit. Here is one of those very controversial verses, quran 9:29: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. As you can see, nothing metaphorical about that verse whatsoever, its a pretty clear order. Also, take a look at what one widely and highly regarded classical scholar says, and he is not alone... From the tafsir(quran-commentary) by Ibn Kathir: This honorable Ayah was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book, after the pagans were defeated, the people entered Allah's religion in large numbers, and the Arabian Peninsula was secured under the Muslims' control. Allah commanded His Messenger to fight the People of the Scriptures, Jews and Christians, on the ninth year of Hijrah, and he prepared his army to fight the Romans and called the people to Jihad announcing his intent and destination. He continues a bit further down: PAYING JIZYAH IS A SIGN OF KUFR(disbelief) AND DISGRACE Allah said, ﴿ حَتَّىٰ يُعۡطُواْ ٱلۡجِزۡيَةَ ﴾ (until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam, ﴿ عَن يَدٍ۬ ﴾ (with willing submission), in defeat and subservience, ﴿ وَهُمۡ صَـٰغِرُونَ ﴾ (and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated. That is a classical scholars take on quran verse 9:29, as you can see, nothing metaphorical here at all...its all very clear what is meant.
Finally, you agree that your mother, daughter and so on could wear bikini and go outside. Then why do they need your convinced and advice/opinion, if they wish to wear bikini or not? You don't need to interfere their freedom.
A human child is born with everything they need to know about love and is taught how to ignore reality. There is no need for messengers. The rituals of Mankind demonstrate competition, nothing more.
Muslims cannot categorically condemn pedophilia without denouncing him as a false prophet. In addition to Aisha, he had planned to marry a baby, but died as a result of a poisoning before he could do so.
When they start talking at the SAME TIME it gets difficult to hear them. Andrew was interrupting Christopher even though Christopher remained quite while Andrew was speaking.
The number 140 I got from the set of whole numbers - in my country we use letter Z. That number represents the number of countries where the us had it's base and was actively trying to establish or maintain some form of government or/and take advantage of the country's resources. The number is lot higher now, I'm not sure how high (150??). If you want to know more I would check wiki, it's fairly accurate. Hint: United States military deployments and Timeline of United States military operations
You're missing half of my points and making the other half for me. Your initial post presents the Czechs as having some sort of cultural awakening that resulted in secularization. The Czechs did in fact have a 20th century cultural awakening, but the art, literature, and film we all revere took the form of resistance to the very power structures that largely eliminated religion.
That's funny. I studied at FAMU and there are definitely still Jews in Prague. Half of the stores in Prague are closed on Saturdays. The country was officially secular under the Soviets, but religion wasn't completely erased.
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Islam: A strange combination of self-righteousness , self- pity , and violent aggression.
That exact phrase could be used to describe my little brother playing Minecraft.
Saddam Hussein Hahaha!
Fucking Hell hmm, well they are both fantasy worlds..
eg626 That depends on your personal interpretation of Minecraft. No 2 players have the same view of it, because it is a very personal and individual relationship that you have with the game. Some take it to the extreme that they actually act as though it is real life, and ignorantly commit heinous acts such as starving to death while playing it, so that is all the more why we as a have to foster the healthy and growing community of Minecraft players in our own society who have jobs and healthy lives and who are enacting their interest in the game in a healthy way.
Don't forget Islam is continually playing the victim and self victimizes it's own people and then blames the west for it. I hate to say it but they never should have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein, he kept all the balances in check.
If Islam was actually true and heaven was full of muslims why would anyone want to go there.
"Ahhh you're breaking my balls"
@@rice83101 and mother-in-laws
@@rice83101 yeah, beautiful, chaste, pure, transparent-skinned, bone-marrow showing, breast-developing, ruby- and coral-like raisins.
You know the kind :)
and a virgin with 75 genders
😂😂
‘If you believe Jesus is coming back very soon to kill everybody who doesn’t agree with him, how do you keep that out of politics?’. Hitch made so many things clear by uttering such penetrating questions
This is not what xtians believe?
@@prenom8793 it is tho
@@edwardtimothy3581 It is certainly not. I'm not Christian, but what all of them tell me is that Jesus will come back in the time of apocalypse, so save people who believe in him.
@@el_teodoro They believe Jesus is God
They believe God created everything including Hell and Apocalypse
They believe apocalypse would kill everyone
Thus Jesus Kill everyone who don't believe in him.
What's so hard for u to understand?
If you believe that, you don't take the Jesus of the New Testament very seriously. Such a "Jesus" would be someone else entirely. I know there are "Christians" who believe in such a nonsense. But their biggest problem is Jesus himself. He would be on Hitchen's side.
It's not a war between religious fanaticism and secularism; it's a war between religion and SANITY.
Secularism. Sanity. Same thing.
*Duh* science *DR.FOUCCI ?* HE'S 🤪 NUTS !
The example of the *U.S.S.R.* is "your truth," that you ignore 🤷♂️
Its a pity that we lost Christopher so early.
More than a pity...
Indian?
God knew that if he let Chris live any longer He wouldn't exist anymore.
If people were immortal then sons would never leave the shadow of their fathers, daughters would never leave the shadows of their mothers, going back to our grandparents, then great grandparents ect ect; if we were immortal, then we would never be free. That's something Christopher's book 'Mortality' taught me at least- I highly recommend reading it.
He is with god now 😂
WOW, 10 years on and even more relevant with what's happening NOW
And more relevant as the days tick by so it seems.
I know right? Christopher was a extremely intelligent man, he is being missed
That's why they killed Hitchens
15 years on and more relevant than ever.
Getting MORE and MORE so.
8 YEARS HAVE PASSED AND IT IS ONLY GETTING WORSE. WE OWE IT TO HUMANITY TO STOP EVIL OF ISLAM BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
diane flock Keep resisting Diane. The one's so eager to falsely label us racist and 'Islamophobe' to limit our speech will not win.
huh, racist. islam is an evil religious cult. it enslaves women and treats them like their servants.
Hitch still lives
Gude Balm
The very fact you have just mentioned him proves he exists in your thoughts.
Gude Balm
He exists in my thoughts.
+Gude Balm , your valid points are drowned out by your appeals to unproven conspiracies.
Gude Balm
What's happening in the world that hasn't happened before?
Gude Balm
Don't be lazy, read a history book on the 2 world wars, the great plagues, black death, the crusades etc, nothing happening now even comes close.
I watched the movie The Road a couple years back. It was one of the most depressing films I ever watched and it left me feeling rather hopeless for all the characters. A friend of mine watched it and he was filled with hope because of the bug that was alive and the plant - hints at life.
Basically what I'm getting at is you can have 100 people watch a movie or read a book (bible or Quran) and get 100 completely different interpretations of it. I just wish we could all agree that these are just movies and books, and there's nothing profound beyond that. Nobody is murdering each other over their interpretations of The Road because nobody takes it literally. That's what makes religion so incredibly dangerous.
Are you suggesting there is no road rage in this world??? Wake up..... Joke
Richard Jones The book is even better!
Nice
It's called humane egotism.
Sorely miss this beautiful man every day, may his mellifluous voice keep educating free-thinkers everywhere until the end of human extinction.
Well Hitchens's *EXTINCTION* and the Soviet Socialists Republics' EXTINCTION are both similar.
I am hoping that humans will have kicked religion out of their minds before they become extinct
@@Chief_Bill A very noble sentiment Bill, but in my personal view I doubt it. Most people are born and brainwashed in a house of “god” since birth, it’ll take effort, commitment and a lot of reading and searching (Science) for truth (reality) rational skepticism and critical thinking to sink in, things that most people, although capable of, won’t do for fear to be condemned by their sky daddy.
For as long as there’s fear of death the invisible product of religion will thrive, for arrogant man invented his immortality out of his refusal to accept that he is nothing more than just another animal, in his hubris he had to exalt himself above all the other beasts.
Edit: Cheers 🍻 to Hitch and to enlightenment.
@@AFMMarcelD I haven't studied the roots of religion or the details through which religion and atheism work, but I just have this vague idea that we're becoming more and more secular. Modern science has played a huge role and I'm just feeling that atheism is becoming more common. I highly doubt we'll get religion off our backs easily, it won't happen, and even if it does, personal faiths will still exist (although that's not my business). But our extinction is certainly a long way ahead, provided something horrible doesn't happen, so I believe that atheistic societies will eventually win. It'll be very disappointing if they don't
Cheers
I hope the past 4 years (since you first commented) have been alright
@@Chief_Bill Very well written and expressed may I add, and yes, as an optimistic man we share same views, as a humanist, I’ve given my hand to my fellow man to help and to achieve and I’m certainly very proud of my 3 cats and one dog, I take great care of them and they return unconditional love and affection.
I sincerely hope that mankind will rise to the challenge one day through critical thinking, rational skepticism and enquire through the only method and tools proven thus far to be accurate. (Science)
Thank you for writing Bill, and Cheers 🍻 to enlightenment, very best regards to you and yours.
"Belief is political, I'm sorry Andrew" wow that was an H-bomb (as in Hitchens-bomb).
11 years ago and everything Hitchens said is still very accurate
Yes. Eric was absolutely right to support the 2003 Iraq war. 🤣
I tire of the argument re: Christianity in the 16th/17th centuries. Those conflicts are over and THESE are the things happening now.
This guy debated pretty well compared to most religious nuts
Why should anyone feel guilty for existing? Keep faith and magic out of government. That is the only answer. You can not involve doctrine and dogma that is not proven to be true into a social arena where lives are at stake. That is cause for great error and will ultimately be the destruction of human civilization. Support secular government.
100% Matthew, couldn’t agree more!!!
It is so sad that the world lost the great mind of Christopher Hitchens.
I miss both these guys, Christopher and Tim.
" Evil thrives when good does nothing "
Two thinking people. I wish there were more Christians like Sullivan and that Hitchens was still about to set people straight. I totally agree with Sullivan's 'glint in the eye' comment. There's plenty of fundamentalist Christians, in the USA especially, which would love to force people into their world view. They're as aggressive and dangerous as the fundamentalists on the other side. Normal peaceful people on both sides shouldn't have to suffer their nonsense!
Rubbish , Duncan Wallace !
@@podrisco What is rubbish ?
I seem to agree with Hitchens 100% of the time. I guess I'm not such an independent thinker after all.
Being an independent thinker doesn’t mean you can’t agree with others!
I respect Tim Russert so much. He was a true moderator, he throws a question out there and lets the guests fight it out and dosn'et intervene. I wish more cable news shows do that.
Somehow it was peaceful for me to hear this nice exchange of dialogue and ideas :)
Convincing, articulate and compelling. Well done sir you have changed my life.
I left Islam when I read the Qur’an and the biography of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam
Now I live in Iraq and I can't talk about it even with my family I might be killed, and society will reject me, it's very difficult for me
and many Arabs leave Islam every day, but they cannot announce that because they may be killed and of course society rejects them.
What did you read in it that made you make this decision?
Stay strong, stay away from islam. Getting rid of apostasy and blasphemy-laws is essential, but more important is that decent human beings recognize that islam is far from decent, and do like you, and leave. Islam needs to wither and die in the minds of people, because the "holy" texts are vile, and cant be changed. At least not the quran, as you know, "Allah" himself said so....
@@ggthewhaleopen it on any page & you'll find the answer.
Please post the whole interview! I'd love to see it.
me too!
Is there somebody who would subtitle Hitchens,Harris, Dawkins and Ayan to Arabic or are they also afraid ?
"The issue is the fusion of faith with political power"
In other words listening to it. Or more appropriately, following it.
What a walking encyclopedia of information Christopher Hitchens was. an absolute genius with a total grasp of the world. how frustrating it must have been for him to have been constantly surrounded by idiots. he was obviously too clever for this world. we have lost someone very unique.
This perfectly sums up how I have been feeling lately. We need a new intellectual to take over where Hitchens left off, and those are some galaxy-sized shoes to fill.
Very interesting clip-- I'm an atheist but incidentally found Andrew Sullivan's counterpoint much more engaging while watching this for the second time.
Tim Russert, by the way, was a great example of a journalist who knew when to just sit back and let a discussion go its own way rather than incessantly and needlessly injecting personal commentary the whole time. Bravo!
How can a person deny that Israeli politics and Palestinian politics are not motivated by religion? How can anybody actually say this with a straight face.
It's easy
Well god signed that contract a while back
Even the Palestinian claim to Jerusalem is almost exclusively religious. At least the Jews had actual autonomy of the place.
As the Sullivan bloke quoted:'My kingdom is not of this world.' Exactly. Keep any imagined kingdom out of my world please.
Christopher always nails it so goddamn solidly I have to laugh.
I miss Hitchens' "honesty" and "intelligence" in his discourse. Of course, I also miss the best interviewer in the history of mankind, Russert. What a privilege it was for any reporter to interview Hitchens. (I believe in God, and ... I love honest sincere debate, and Hitchens was usually very prepared and intelligent). We just lost him way too soon ...
I don’t think I’d ever heard Hitch say “I agree” in a situation like this- but he was at least always capable of it. I have never heard some arguing against Hitch say it, and I cannot conceive of any religious apologist doing so. “A mind is like a parachute- it doesn’t work unless it’s open” (Frank Zappa)
Andrew seems like such a great guy to have a discussion or a debate with. He carries himself so well.I wish Hitch was still here.His voice of reason is desperately needed now.😔
RIP Christopher! You did perfect work!
This guy is on the road to hell
@@prenom8793 u wish 😂
He ain't *Resting* and there ain't no purgatory, so his work has him either ROTTING IN PLACE... or burning 🔥👹🔥
Or he was cremated ⚱
@@davidhopeman9622 the same place u will be...
TBH, he was an entertaining douche bag. He did nothing to benefit the world as much as he did to piss off people.
If you're a moderate Muslim, you cannot say you don't believe in the Hadith. You have to say you believe in it, and you believe in something like "the penalty of apostasy is death". All Muslim countries criminalize apostasy, including moderate ones. If you ever disclaim support for that teaching, you are essentially saying the prophet was a liar. You can't do that. No moderate Muslim can do that. You can be jailed for it if you're caught, and you'll be sentenced to an eternity in hell cause you offended god. At least according to your beliefs.
On the other hand, as an atheist, I get the privilege of saying I don't support the shit Hitler or Stalin did, because I don't have a burden to believe in a book of fairy tales that forces me to believe in Hitler or Stalin. I have logic and critical thinking. You have logic and critical thinking too, but you don't allow it to be more important than religion. So even if you think you don't support radical Islam, you contribute to making it powerful by just subscribing to the religion. You and the radical Muslims are two sides of the same coin, you believe in peace, they believe in terror, but you both believe in magic. You can't argue against a magic believing fanatic if you happen to be one yourself.
So unless you place precedence on critical thinking over your sense of religiosity, you're never going to achieve peace.
SickMetalAddict 👳👳👳=💩
Well stated SickMetalAddict.
Your understanding of Islam is very limited the hadiths are simply sayings of the prophet and sometimes even contradict the Quran. And also its beyond me how you can say that a regular person who wants to go to some place once in their life and fast for a month is the same as someone killing innocent people.
@@miromiro3927 those two people read and believe the contents of the same book. If you fail to see that, you are an apologist at best and a collaborator at worst. Islam is utterly incompatible with the western ideals of liberalism.
define peace , define critical thinking .
"non true rather than untrue...always the master of clarity.💔
I can't say that I'm familiar with Paragon Drive Copy. What are your experiences with it?
Sullivan is puny next to Hitch.
I conducted an interview with Christopher's brother Peter the other day, finishing on the last moments of Christopher's life. Anyone who is a fan of his will find it harrowing and enlightening.A real insight.Please watch and like if you enjoy
Where can I watch this full conversation?
I must say (actual arguments aside), unlike many of Hitchens' other respondents... It is nice to see another person on the panel who can articulate his points well, and who actually infuses some substance in the defence of their position.
Read George Orwell's Animal Farm to see what happens when animals get smart !
The usual nonsense by Sullivan.
He was spot on when he spoke about christian fundamentalism and islamic fundamentalism..His statement about the"glint in the eye" of the likes of Jimmy Swaggart was absolutely correct and his statement is more relevant and truer today then it was 8 years ago.
When Jimmy Swaggart blows himself up in a crowded square to kill nonbelievers for Christ then you and Sullivan will be proved to be "spot on."
Open your fucking eyes you imbecile.
winterlandboy
nice... you are showing who you are now
Oh yeah ? Who am I ? Go on ..indulge me
I always loved Czech for that!
Greets from Croatia :)
Wondefully said Shy Talk! Couldn't agree more. To communicate and share one's ideas in an open manner is one thing. To organize such things into hierarchies of power which dictate what one should believe and how one should behave (santioned by threats in some cases even of death) is completely another.
Society is better, and getting better, because of people like Mr. Hitchens. It is up to the rest of us to continue his legacy by speaking up against religion and zealotry.
Its hard to concentrate on what Hitchens says, his voice alone and the manner in which he speaks, is enough to convince you of whatever the fuck he's saying.
I didn't have any problems listening and understanding him... In fact I would listen to his voice everynight before falling asleep
How I wish I could have met that wonderful man - Christopher Hitchens.
where did you get the number 140?
Although I disagree with Hitchens in many areas, and his knowledge of Christianity was laughably limited, I admired his boldness in speaking up without fear. We need more of that.
Simonet1309 The only acceptable forms of Christianity in the modern day are the ones that defy the bible, and therefore not true Christianity. Christians today evolved over the centuries despite the bible and not because of the bible thanks to secular reasoning.
why did you add the "almost"?
It bothers me when people make excuses for Islam by saying "its just a phase, Chrsitianity was violent once too". Like this is the 21st century, how can you make excuses for murdering children and beheading homosexuals? Moderate Muslims: please reform your religion
thank you :)
Thank you. :)
Thank you.
WHERE did you get your number?
@Asqalane: you are truly awesome, standing up to hate with words of peace. Much respect from your brother! :D
Does he get Christopher Hitchens' name wrong at the end? It sounds like Christian Richards to me.
Miss You Hitch! 😢 R. I. P
Do you mean the warrior theology and theology of war are same? or not?
i miss him
You were brilliant, Comrade!
“He who has let go of hatred
who treats all beings with kindness
and compassion, who is always serene,
unmoved by pain or pleasure,
free of the "I" and "mine,"
self-controlled, firm and patient,
his whole mind focused on me ---
that is the man I love best.”
― Anonymous, The Bhagavad Gita
tags: bhagavad-gita, stephen-mitchell
praise be!
"Belief in no belief is still belief, belief in believing is also belief. "
INcredulity is credulity? Disbelief is belief?
How Orwellian. Antonyms are synonyms.
WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
"Religions of peace"
@1:40 sounds a bit conspiratorial, but how else did we end up in this situation?
Thanks, it is indeed. I am X Christian born in Eritrea. For me the reason to leave Christianity was because I couldn't understand why God would present this Bible that is open to interpretations. If it is really from God, he would make it in such a way only one interpretation would be possible. But look around these days...35000+ different Christian denominations and interpretations. That makes no sense.
whats the differnce between nontrue and utrue , can someone tell me pl ?
+Lalith Vithana
To be "untrue" you need to have solid evidence for its falsity.
To be "non-true" you just don't have any solid evidence for its truth.
thanks , appreciate it
Can we just ask how there isn’t a clip of the next part, when it actually got interesting?! Don’t upload a piece without the full debate please
Thankyou Hitch. Thankyou.
Both Hitchens could easily have been Historians they both use their own vast knowledge of history in every discussion.
Tim Russert and Christopher Hitchens, both greatly missed.
I TOTALLY agree
Can someone explain the difference between nontrue and untrue? It seems like nontrue is a synonym but it's used in a logic context, so I don't understand what distinction Christopher Hitchens was drawing between the two.
Hitchen's knowledge is encyclopedic!! Love it!!
And I like Sullivan too, but when going up gainst The Hitch, he is just overwhelmed...
It's sad to see Hitchens and Russert together there. They are both gone now. We need intelligent people like Chris & Tim to make the rest of us think.
The battle is between individual liberty and collective authoritarianism.
he looks better with a beard. what was this video about again?
We all NEED to talk about Islam both Left and Right. But im not holding my breath. 🤔
@3:10 Andrew is right. Christianity has the foundations for the separation of Church and State written into the Gospels. Can’t say the same for Islam
Once again, it’s all down to interpretation.
@@duderyandude9515 no it isnt. Islam became a political entity from Muhammad and a few hundreds years on. The head of state was the same person as the head of faith, the khalif. Islam does NOT seperate the two in any way, sufficient knowledge of islamic doctrine would have told you so.
@@Timeren2010 I agree that a theocratic and totalitarian interpretation of Islam is easier to get to, in my opinion, but religion, including Islam, has been used to justify everything from communism to fascism. That’s the issue with religion; it’s false so there’s no TRUE interpretation. You can just claim that it’s metaphor or that it’s literal.
@@duderyandude9515 communism in general is not religious, quite the contrary. Also, i suspect you never read the quran Ryan. The verses that calls for the fighting, and subjugation, of non-muslims are NOT metaphorical at all. They are very very VERY explicit. Here is one of those very controversial verses, quran 9:29:
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
As you can see, nothing metaphorical about that verse whatsoever, its a pretty clear order. Also, take a look at what one widely and highly regarded classical scholar says, and he is not alone...
From the tafsir(quran-commentary) by Ibn Kathir:
This honorable Ayah was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book, after the pagans were defeated, the people entered Allah's religion in large numbers, and the Arabian Peninsula was secured under the Muslims' control. Allah commanded His Messenger to fight the People of the Scriptures, Jews and Christians, on the ninth year of Hijrah, and he prepared his army to fight the Romans and called the people to Jihad announcing his intent and destination.
He continues a bit further down:
PAYING JIZYAH IS A SIGN OF KUFR(disbelief) AND DISGRACE
Allah said,
﴿ حَتَّىٰ يُعۡطُواْ ٱلۡجِزۡيَةَ ﴾
(until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam,
﴿ عَن يَدٍ۬ ﴾
(with willing submission), in defeat and subservience,
﴿ وَهُمۡ صَـٰغِرُونَ ﴾
(and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated.
That is a classical scholars take on quran verse 9:29, as you can see, nothing metaphorical here at all...its all very clear what is meant.
"non-true" vs. "untrue?"
...what did he mean by that?
At least 47 people were killed and 79 were wounded Monday by a suicide bombing outside a school in northern Nigeria, police said.
Finally, you agree that your mother, daughter and so on could wear bikini and go outside.
Then why do they need your convinced and advice/opinion, if they wish to wear bikini or not?
You don't need to interfere their freedom.
4:35 "I'll just carefully put my hands back on this cup and pretend I didn't even try to interrupt."
Did Andrew (glad US troops are going to "take-a-bullet-for-Israel" while doing what they do in Iraq) Sullivan win this debate back then?
A human child is born with everything they need to know about love and is taught how to ignore reality. There is no need for messengers. The rituals of Mankind demonstrate competition, nothing more.
Muslims cannot categorically condemn pedophilia without denouncing him as a false prophet. In addition to Aisha, he had planned to marry a baby, but died as a result of a poisoning before he could do so.
I agree.
When they start talking at the SAME TIME it gets difficult to hear them. Andrew was interrupting Christopher even though Christopher remained quite while Andrew was speaking.
U see why he wasnt ever allowed to quit smoking.
What does he mean by 'non true' as opposed to 'untrue' ? Anyone know ?
We need him now - can his brother replace him on Islam?
I think your comment was meant for someone else?
The number 140 I got from the set of whole numbers - in my country we use letter Z. That number represents the number of countries where the us had it's base and was actively trying to establish or maintain some form of government or/and take advantage of the country's resources. The number is lot higher now, I'm not sure how high (150??). If you want to know more I would check wiki, it's fairly accurate. Hint: United States military deployments and Timeline of United States military operations
You're missing half of my points and making the other half for me. Your initial post presents the Czechs as having some sort of cultural awakening that resulted in secularization. The Czechs did in fact have a 20th century cultural awakening, but the art, literature, and film we all revere took the form of resistance to the very power structures that largely eliminated religion.
No other religion is a "warrior theology" and changing the phrase to "theology of war" doesn't change that.
That's funny. I studied at FAMU and there are definitely still Jews in Prague. Half of the stores in Prague are closed on Saturdays. The country was officially secular under the Soviets, but religion wasn't completely erased.