Duncan and Peachy was who taught me how to paint, Lloyd was who gave me confidence that I can paint. Thank you so much for getting him on the show. I'll enjoy this one.
Man, I needed this one and I didn’t even know it. I’ve not picked up a brush in months. Hobby started to feel different. It hasn’t been the peaceful me time away from everything. Started pressuring myself to build and paint because I’d bought stuff, even though I wasn’t feeling it. Add to that work pressures, home renovation pressures and all the usual negative hobby types on TH-cam, Reddit etc…I closed up my desk in July and just left it as it was. Haven’t even been listening or watching to creators for the last two months or so either. But last night I listened to this… Not only has this given me some really great work motivation. But this morning the desk got unlocked (it’s all piled into a bureau) and I’ve painted, albeit just a little bit of one terminator and felt that quiet, peaceful feeling again. Cheers lads…
I'm so glad you've mentioned the nonuniformity of the uniforms of the military. I worked in hospitality with a fellah about a decade ago who insisted that we needed to all look identical in our bar uniforms "just like the navy" (he'd been in the navy for a short stint) I (knowing many people in the military) pointed out that you'd be lucky to see any two members looking EXACTLY the same...
Lloyd gave me the confidence to actually really try and improve my painting skills with his Lumineth turiorials and the results were better than anything I thought I was capable of. I can’t thank him enough for breaking down a complex paint scheme into something that actually felt manageable .
Lloyd, whenever someone brings up painting black power armor I always point them to your video about painting black power armor fast as a great option. I had a lot of BT to try and paint in a short amount of time, and decided to use your tutorial after a lot of consideration. I didn't meet the deadline for the painting competition, but got a lot of reps in with a technique I hadn't used before (stippling), and really started taking into account where light hits a subject. I know in my heart there have to be many other painters who have developed new techniques and more confidence through your tutorials. Thank you so much for that.
You can tell the videographer set up his own camera, that’s a lovely depth of field setting Pat. Glad you have a more spacious command station! Edit: About airbrushes, it’s probably the single best hobby investment I’ve made. It’s such a speed and quality enhancement for priming, basecoating and adding effects. Oils similarly are a big boost, having that extra level of control over your washes is great.
I owe the Painting Coach a lot for the tutorials and tips he’s provided me along my painting journey. His videos are intuitive, accessible and gave me confidence. Some of the best! Thank you Lloyd!
Another fantastic episode, gents! And Peachy... I am beyond jealous of the lovely Ventrillian you received, and the timing couldn't have been better either!
Great episode as always. Lloyd is a really inspiring guy, and the whole conversation made me decide I need to give it a try with oils! I've been scared to give it a go but this show convinced it is good to try something a little scary. Thanks again and congrats on the new studio, looking forward to see more and more content!
Another great show, thank you, gents, and the new digs are fantastic, but to have the painting coach as a guest as well just tops it all off pat must've been so happy 😁
Another delightful episode! Getting to see more of the guests and their personal side makes for a great watch, the leadership stuff in this episode was gold. Thanks again.
Where do you keep finding these great amazing guests??. Congrats on the new place, looks awesome and it’s well deserved for the fantastic content you gents keep putting out 👏
Loved this chat. Watch both channels so the analytics are wrong 😂 - listening to how both entered the hobby makes me feel ancient…. I remember getting into games workshop with Bloodbowl when the players were cardboard stuck in a base 1st edition 1986, then came Space Hulk and Dark Future Now just happy to watch these channels and paint kill teams and marines 🤟🏼
I love the new place, congratulations Gent's. The leather sofa looks a bit like a therapists couch. I'm imagining Peachy layed out on it and Pat asking "So Peachy ven did zis fixation with pegs begin."
Peer education, I see it as teaching and learner development, so far I've enjoyed this episode, I've been playing with wire and epoxy putty while working on a truck engine, working on Nycaloth and still working on termagants
If I remember correctly I think the artwork Lloyd was talking about is actually from Kev Walker. Now that I nerded out let me say I absolutely love these talk shows as they bring the exact right amount of passion and nonsense you'll find in most hobby/gaming groups, in my experience! Keep them coming. I look forward to seeing more of this new, sweet studio. Cheers from France, guys!
With respect to paint colours, bit of a behind the scenes from when I worked at a paint manufacturer. The TL;DR production isn't perfect and paints change. The folks in the lab would initially develop a formulation, part of which was the colour, and also focusing on things like weather resistance & deformation resistance (does the paint crack if a panel is bent or dented), and they'd have all the ingredients in EXACTING quantities/ratios. This would then go to the production line, who'd keep roughly to that formula, but not very exactly, it was dealing with entire bags of ingredients and assuming the weights/volumes were accurate, which in most instances there's tolerances built in. Try this yourself, go and buy a few 1kg bars of chocolate (who says science can't be tasty!) and weigh them, see how many of them are exactly 1kg, then how many are over or under by up to about 50g. So batch to batch the specific ratios will differ slightly, so that can have an impact on the finished colour and consistency. Add to that, ingredient suppliers change over time, and you also have each suppliers inaccuracies that compound your own. And even if the supplier doesn't change, ingredients themselves can change due to regulations, difficulties in procurement etc.
I love seeing people discover how useful and practical oil paints/washes are for minis. The experience Pat was describing at 1hr 05m thereabouts is great. Showing Iron Warriors players how to use masking tape is another great "oh my god its so easy" moment to observe too lol.
Nice to see the fresh space. However the first thing i noticed was the smaller framed artwork on the wall unevenly spaced at the ends compared to the larger artwork above them 😅
Another great show. I do think the wide camera angle made me think of Lloyd as the well built Imperial Guardsman who made the mistake of sitting next to an Astartes. Looking forward to seeing how the rest of the studio goes and what merriment you have in store for us.
I dunno guys i think the main camera angle looks too far away. I feel as though I'm secretly peering at you through a slightly ajar door, I'm nude of course.
Great episode as always guys ❤. Alternativ to corax white is ak interactiv 3generation Light Gull Grey (tiny bit darker than corax), or silver grey (tiny bit lighter). Both are so much better to actully use. And kimera warm yellow smells like mango
Oh god yes! I loved that game, weirdly my favourite mission is when you get left on your own after an ambush and have to trek across the map to link up with LZ’s whilst dodging patrols…..blooming tense - Peachy
Dose anyone remember the second edition set I'm the Argos catalogue....the laminated book of wonders had 40k for ages and now it's not in there ....must have lost the license
To be fair, when we're buying the real thing we have the same arguments over what color they should be... I was in procurement for one of USAF's newer vehicles and yeah, there was significant argument over what color it should be.
50 mins into this and honestly without sounding sloppy this has a really wholesome feel to the vid good work chaps! ❤😊edit: balthazr gold😂😂and your northern comment: as a fellow geordy Pat lad give ower your sound as a pound lad! wor lass says little things come in belta packages ne worries divent worry bout them tacking the piss! Lad tack ne crap and ya need to sneek in Blaydon races and Lambton worm🪱 😂😂😂
The talk of conformity and paint shades reminds me of the big discussions that used to be on Horus Heresy forums and pages about colour schemes. Arguments over the exact shades for the Legions with people getting real heated because this was an "historical" setting. And now GW has just gone "yeah... with the inductii, you can have whatever colours and patterns you want, go nuts" 😂😂
Azera or Italian style ground coffee until late afternoon then a hot chocolate coffee mix until early evening , my hot beverage preference isn't cheap 😬
Are there any plans to get a massive Painting Phase/Chat Show/Sidetracked logo for the Studio Trapped Under Plastic Style? I'm sure it would fit in well
Our regularly scheduled program of 'Fernwood Tonight' will not be seen tonight. ...And now we return to a very special homecoming episode of 'Between Two Ficuses'. Remember kids, don't miss 'The Painting Phase Holiday Special' this December only on CBS, the network that cancelled Star Trek.
While I agree that some of the "I must be completely right on the Internet" behaviour one sees in wargaming and military modelling is driven by the desire to simply be seen, and that much of the rudeness boils down the the anonymity and unreality of communicating via text, I do think there's another element worth considering. Both wargaming and military modelling, as well as role-playing, have for a very long time been "fringe" hobbies. But they're also hobbies with fairly well defined rules. Not just the games, but also in terms of how people are supposed to interact, what kinds of tools and tasks and so on that one needs, and I'm sure in many other ways I'm not thinking of right now. The upshot is that these hobbies are *very* attractive to neurodivergent people. Broadly speaking, neurodivergence creates a tendency to view the world in binary terms. Either something is correct, or it is not. When a neurodivergent person internalizes a fact or detail, on an unconscious level this detail becomes fixed and unalterable. So in the mind of such people (and to be clear, I *am* neurodivergent, though much less so than some people I know), there is, in fact, only one right answer to the question of "what colour is the inside of a Tiger tank" painted. And the more someone says something that's "wrong," the more the neurodivergent brain digs in its heels and insists that it's "right." This doesn't mean one should put up with rude behaviour. Every person has an obligation to try and get along with every other person, and even if one's brain isn't great at the task we all have to try. But the next time you end up in an argument with someone who is insisting that there's only one correct way to do anything, consider that this might be how that person's brain works, and rather than straight up arguing with them try to take a page from improv and work with a "yes, and" approach. "Yes, you're right, a lot of the time that *is* the colour of the inside of the Tiger tank. And sometimes, *this* is the colour." Gently introduce nuance and subtlety, and remain aware that for a lot of people, the idea that things don't fit into neat little checkboxes is incredibly distressing.
Uniformity?!!! Who used directional dice to hand those picture frames. Great new space lads. Has Patrick set himself up with the best camera and a great angle. Looking very official.
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Duncan and Peachy was who taught me how to paint, Lloyd was who gave me confidence that I can paint. Thank you so much for getting him on the show. I'll enjoy this one.
these couches look cozy! I do kind of miss how cozy the old shot with the table felt. It felt really personal.
I was thinking the same. The views of sitting on the couch seem to distance the intimacy than sitting at the desk.
Man, I needed this one and I didn’t even know it. I’ve not picked up a brush in months. Hobby started to feel different.
It hasn’t been the peaceful me time away from everything. Started pressuring myself to build and paint because I’d bought stuff, even though I wasn’t feeling it. Add to that work pressures, home renovation pressures and all the usual negative hobby types on TH-cam, Reddit etc…I closed up my desk in July and just left it as it was.
Haven’t even been listening or watching to creators for the last two months or so either. But last night I listened to this…
Not only has this given me some really great work motivation. But this morning the desk got unlocked (it’s all piled into a bureau) and I’ve painted, albeit just a little bit of one terminator and felt that quiet, peaceful feeling again.
Cheers lads…
Pat saved the most dramatic lighting for himself!
He deserves it. He works hard bless him.
@@thepaintingphaseis this pat replying hahha
I'm so glad you've mentioned the nonuniformity of the uniforms of the military. I worked in hospitality with a fellah about a decade ago who insisted that we needed to all look identical in our bar uniforms "just like the navy" (he'd been in the navy for a short stint) I (knowing many people in the military) pointed out that you'd be lucky to see any two members looking EXACTLY the same...
I miss the old set. I liked the intimacy.
Lovely ep, Lloyd is great and the new studio is looking really nice!
Excellent entertainment as always, and I second the Rosemary & co series 33 brush choice. Love the new digs.
Love his shorts on how to paint leather. Still use those recipe to this day. Love the way he says Rhinox hide.
when i started again last year this guy got me to my skill point now love his videos
Lloyd gave me the confidence to actually really try and improve my painting skills with his Lumineth turiorials and the results were better than anything I thought I was capable of. I can’t thank him enough for breaking down a complex paint scheme into something that actually felt manageable .
Much love for Lloyd. We started around the same time. He plugged on and I drifted off. Watching his stuff really motivated me to start again.
Lloyd, whenever someone brings up painting black power armor I always point them to your video about painting black power armor fast as a great option.
I had a lot of BT to try and paint in a short amount of time, and decided to use your tutorial after a lot of consideration. I didn't meet the deadline for the painting competition, but got a lot of reps in with a technique I hadn't used before (stippling), and really started taking into account where light hits a subject.
I know in my heart there have to be many other painters who have developed new techniques and more confidence through your tutorials. Thank you so much for that.
Thank you! Glad it was useful!
Lloyd's a great bloke, and incredible painter, and coach! Looking forward to this one
It was great to see the Painting Coach on! I use his tutorials often and I find his style very helpful. Thanks for all the great content!
Loving the studio space! I'm, really happy for you guys. Here's to continued growth!
You can tell the videographer set up his own camera, that’s a lovely depth of field setting Pat. Glad you have a more spacious command station!
Edit: About airbrushes, it’s probably the single best hobby investment I’ve made. It’s such a speed and quality enhancement for priming, basecoating and adding effects. Oils similarly are a big boost, having that extra level of control over your washes is great.
I owe the Painting Coach a lot for the tutorials and tips he’s provided me along my painting journey. His videos are intuitive, accessible and gave me confidence. Some of the best! Thank you Lloyd!
im an aussie and Lloyds accent is thick but very easily understood. another great chat.
Safe to say you do a fantastic job of coaching people to paint. Title 100% deserved!
Another fantastic episode, gents!
And Peachy... I am beyond jealous of the lovely Ventrillian you received, and the timing couldn't have been better either!
Yes! It’s amazing…..I’ve been so preoccupied with stuff, my commitments to Noblevember have somewhat slipped through my oily fingers 🤦♂️😂
Nice to hear my old shop Cribbs Causeway get a shout out. Think I’d have working at Bristol Central at that time though.
What a great video, I'll have to check his bits out more. Love the new digs!
Great episode as always. Lloyd is a really inspiring guy, and the whole conversation made me decide I need to give it a try with oils! I've been scared to give it a go but this show convinced it is good to try something a little scary.
Thanks again and congrats on the new studio, looking forward to see more and more content!
Another great show, thank you, gents, and the new digs are fantastic, but to have the painting coach as a guest as well just tops it all off pat must've been so happy 😁
Fantastic another person i can follow thank you guys for introducing me to another good youtube painter 😊
Ha! You are most welcome sir
Another delightful episode! Getting to see more of the guests and their personal side makes for a great watch, the leadership stuff in this episode was gold. Thanks again.
Where do you keep finding these great amazing guests??. Congrats on the new place, looks awesome and it’s well deserved for the fantastic content you gents keep putting out 👏
Love Lloyd! Such easy to follow videos, increased my confidence so much.
All the best for the new studio, opened with a crotch shot of Jeff, strong and bold start to the episode!! 😆
Well you know, new studio and all that……
Yet another awesome guest. Loving the new studio set up, looking forward to seeing new stuff shot there. 😊
Great guest, really interesting topics. thanks chaps
Another fantastic episode chaps! With yet another awesome guest! Congrats again on the new digs, the set up looks great! :)
Great show, what a fine chap!
great episode, I love hearing such a beautiful welsh voice!
I recently made my own kitbash of the Kev Walker Black Templars artwork Lloyd talked about!
Goodness gracious. Jeff is an absolute unit !
Loved this chat.
Watch both channels so the analytics are wrong 😂
- listening to how both entered the hobby makes me feel ancient….
I remember getting into games workshop with Bloodbowl when the players were cardboard stuck in a base 1st edition 1986, then came Space Hulk and Dark Future
Now just happy to watch these channels and paint kill teams and marines 🤟🏼
I love the new place, congratulations Gent's. The leather sofa looks a bit like a therapists couch. I'm imagining Peachy layed out on it and Pat asking "So Peachy ven did zis fixation with pegs begin."
😂🤣😂
Peer education, I see it as teaching and learner development, so far I've enjoyed this episode, I've been playing with wire and epoxy putty while working on a truck engine, working on Nycaloth and still working on termagants
Nice one for shouting out Kraken gaming. ❤
I'm getting into oil paints now. Love washes and now I'm trying out blending its great
If I remember correctly I think the artwork Lloyd was talking about is actually from Kev Walker. Now that I nerded out let me say I absolutely love these talk shows as they bring the exact right amount of passion and nonsense you'll find in most hobby/gaming groups, in my experience! Keep them coming. I look forward to seeing more of this new, sweet studio. Cheers from France, guys!
Merci! 😍🙏😍
@@thepaintingphaseyou're very welcome ❤
Excellent stuff chaps - congrats on the new digs, look forward to seeing the space evolve!
Loving the new studio setup, the "roundtable couches" thing is very classy.
Love the new space!
Congratulations on the new studio guys, it’s a start of a new chapter for you all and I can’t wait to see what it brings!
With respect to paint colours, bit of a behind the scenes from when I worked at a paint manufacturer.
The TL;DR production isn't perfect and paints change.
The folks in the lab would initially develop a formulation, part of which was the colour, and also focusing on things like weather resistance & deformation resistance (does the paint crack if a panel is bent or dented), and they'd have all the ingredients in EXACTING quantities/ratios.
This would then go to the production line, who'd keep roughly to that formula, but not very exactly, it was dealing with entire bags of ingredients and assuming the weights/volumes were accurate, which in most instances there's tolerances built in. Try this yourself, go and buy a few 1kg bars of chocolate (who says science can't be tasty!) and weigh them, see how many of them are exactly 1kg, then how many are over or under by up to about 50g.
So batch to batch the specific ratios will differ slightly, so that can have an impact on the finished colour and consistency.
Add to that, ingredient suppliers change over time, and you also have each suppliers inaccuracies that compound your own. And even if the supplier doesn't change, ingredients themselves can change due to regulations, difficulties in procurement etc.
Been waiting for this one for a while! Awesome!
Great as always.
LOVE That peachy is just rocking the bike boots :)
The new digs are fantastic. I've learnt so much from Peachy and Lloyd painting wise. Great guys.
Yet another lovely hobby chat 😊
Looking forward to the continuation of the Necromunda campaign in the new set-up!
Thanks for a great show, take care.
The new place looks amazing guys!! Well done!!
Wow B17 simulator being brought up unlocked some great memories
That old B17 game was great 👍🏻
I love seeing people discover how useful and practical oil paints/washes are for minis. The experience Pat was describing at 1hr 05m thereabouts is great.
Showing Iron Warriors players how to use masking tape is another great "oh my god its so easy" moment to observe too lol.
Awsome show guys. I just kept laughing and agreeing with lots that was said.
So has anyone been pegged on the new couches yet?
How do you know they're not all being pegged for the duration of the video
How do you think the hole was made?
The Pegging Phase
Cracking show guys 👍🏼
Another really interesting episode guys. I am loving all the guests recently. The new space looks great!
Thank you lads. Another beauty!
Congratulations on the new casting couches, hope they clean easily
Let’s hope.
Loving the new studio gents!
Looking forward to seeing it develop further 👌🏻
Congratulations on the new digs at last.
Nice to see the fresh space. However the first thing i noticed was the smaller framed artwork on the wall unevenly spaced at the ends compared to the larger artwork above them 😅
Oh the new studio's gonna take some getting used to.
Peachy in his motorbike boots!!! ❤
Another great show. I do think the wide camera angle made me think of Lloyd as the well built Imperial Guardsman who made the mistake of sitting next to an Astartes. Looking forward to seeing how the rest of the studio goes and what merriment you have in store for us.
I did Celestine following Painting Coach's tutorial, it is in my opinion the best one on youtube!
I dunno guys i think the main camera angle looks too far away. I feel as though I'm secretly peering at you through a slightly ajar door, I'm nude of course.
😂🤣😂 it’s all a work in progress.
Nice to see the mighty fortress monastery cribbs causeway getting a mention ( my local store and some of the best staff G.W has )
The new digs look great 👍
Great episode as always guys ❤. Alternativ to corax white is ak interactiv 3generation Light Gull Grey (tiny bit darker than corax), or silver grey (tiny bit lighter). Both are so much better to actully use. And kimera warm yellow smells like mango
I dig the new digs. Scouse Willy❤
The gang talking about simulation games reminds me of the original operation flashpoint which was very like that too
Oh god yes! I loved that game, weirdly my favourite mission is when you get left on your own after an ambush and have to trek across the map to link up with LZ’s whilst dodging patrols…..blooming tense - Peachy
@thepaintingphase that's the mission that came to mind for me too!
loving the frank thomas boots peachy cudos for riding in this wwather!
Ha! Yeah it can be a bit dicey at times, but needs must
Fantastic!
I’ve got the same endor poster!! Good chat
Loved it
I got my painting phase mug
Dose anyone remember the second edition set I'm the Argos catalogue....the laminated book of wonders had 40k for ages and now it's not in there ....must have lost the license
You know why it's laminated don't you?
To catch the tears of joy!
To be fair, when we're buying the real thing we have the same arguments over what color they should be... I was in procurement for one of USAF's newer vehicles and yeah, there was significant argument over what color it should be.
50 mins into this and honestly without sounding sloppy this has a really wholesome feel to the vid good work chaps! ❤😊edit: balthazr gold😂😂and your northern comment: as a fellow geordy Pat lad give ower your sound as a pound lad!
wor lass says little things come in belta packages ne worries divent worry bout them tacking the piss! Lad tack ne crap and ya need to sneek in Blaydon races and Lambton worm🪱 😂😂😂
Loving the new space..any chance of a video tour?
The talk of conformity and paint shades reminds me of the big discussions that used to be on Horus Heresy forums and pages about colour schemes. Arguments over the exact shades for the Legions with people getting real heated because this was an "historical" setting.
And now GW has just gone "yeah... with the inductii, you can have whatever colours and patterns you want, go nuts" 😂😂
Azera or Italian style ground coffee until late afternoon then a hot chocolate coffee mix until early evening , my hot beverage preference isn't cheap 😬
I’m following both channels. Apparently I’m a mad, beautiful man! #tribe
Thought i clicked on Casting couch then... haha
The new studio will be great when its finished.
Are there any plans to get a massive Painting Phase/Chat Show/Sidetracked logo for the Studio Trapped Under Plastic Style? I'm sure it would fit in well
Another great show. Brilliant to listen to while painting.
Cheers gents.
P.S is the only episode where Peachy doesn't mention Sharpe?
Great guest, great episode! Can I get a link to Patrick's Iron Warrior comparison price video please?
th-cam.com/video/YaPdgAhljYM/w-d-xo.html
Our regularly scheduled program of 'Fernwood Tonight' will not be seen tonight.
...And now we return to a very special homecoming episode of 'Between Two Ficuses'.
Remember kids, don't miss 'The Painting Phase Holiday Special' this December only on CBS, the network that cancelled Star Trek.
While I agree that some of the "I must be completely right on the Internet" behaviour one sees in wargaming and military modelling is driven by the desire to simply be seen, and that much of the rudeness boils down the the anonymity and unreality of communicating via text, I do think there's another element worth considering. Both wargaming and military modelling, as well as role-playing, have for a very long time been "fringe" hobbies. But they're also hobbies with fairly well defined rules. Not just the games, but also in terms of how people are supposed to interact, what kinds of tools and tasks and so on that one needs, and I'm sure in many other ways I'm not thinking of right now. The upshot is that these hobbies are *very* attractive to neurodivergent people.
Broadly speaking, neurodivergence creates a tendency to view the world in binary terms. Either something is correct, or it is not. When a neurodivergent person internalizes a fact or detail, on an unconscious level this detail becomes fixed and unalterable. So in the mind of such people (and to be clear, I *am* neurodivergent, though much less so than some people I know), there is, in fact, only one right answer to the question of "what colour is the inside of a Tiger tank" painted. And the more someone says something that's "wrong," the more the neurodivergent brain digs in its heels and insists that it's "right."
This doesn't mean one should put up with rude behaviour. Every person has an obligation to try and get along with every other person, and even if one's brain isn't great at the task we all have to try. But the next time you end up in an argument with someone who is insisting that there's only one correct way to do anything, consider that this might be how that person's brain works, and rather than straight up arguing with them try to take a page from improv and work with a "yes, and" approach. "Yes, you're right, a lot of the time that *is* the colour of the inside of the Tiger tank. And sometimes, *this* is the colour." Gently introduce nuance and subtlety, and remain aware that for a lot of people, the idea that things don't fit into neat little checkboxes is incredibly distressing.
Ha! I have food BEFORE watching!
Uniformity?!!! Who used directional dice to hand those picture frames.
Great new space lads. Has Patrick set himself up with the best camera and a great angle. Looking very official.
i used to hate corax white but after persevering with it because it was the only white i had and learning to use it, i really like it now 🤣
The F1 flamme rouge is out on Board Game Area now.
Love the new studio too!
There is an F1 board game?! I want it.
19:45 Peachy's Angron with Goblin Green trim base, when?
Couch MADNESS!!!!!!