I need to correct a glaring omission in this interview. My intention in bringing Jeff and Jim into the story was to highlight that all three of us were Golden Demon winners. As I recounted the story of my win in ‘97, I had intended to state that the following year at Games Day ‘98, Jim Ball won three demons. However, Scott asked me a question and I lost the thread, failing to give my good friend the recognition I had intended as part of our original creative trio. I want to let the Goody PPs know that Jim’s miniature painting, along with Jeff’s, was extremely influential to me in those early days and he was justifiably recognized for that great work by also winning in Baltimore in ‘98.
Again -Don for the love of Katarin the Ice Queen -tell Jon and Scott to pin your comments so they don't get buried! As a guest on the show your amendments and corrections are of great value☺
@@madsbojensen1 Thanks Mads....Scott was only able to pin one comment and I thought it more important to set the record straight so this is the one that was chosen. Appreciate the suggestion. Thanks for the nice comments.
Listen up Goody PPs…Hobby Gandalf here. I just want to take a moment to thank you all for the kind words and let you all know how appreciative I am of the opportunity to “share the stage” with Scott and Jon for this episode. I guess you can tell, we had a lot of fun with this one. My “poorly maintained” Instagram pages have been blowing up all day with likes and new followers. I am humbled by this and again, want to say thanks to everyone for this kindness. Now I gotta actually add new content more than once every six weeks…damn you internet notoriety!!! 😁 Well, I’m sure there are some lore-based photos I can add…those should be easy! Hobby Gandalf out!
Don you were a treat to listen to! I hope you make it back on the podcast some day! I have a ton of appreciation and respect for oldschool Warhammer and mini painting in general. Thanks so much for sharing your amazing stories and history with the hobby!
Victor Hardys Christian Demon was completely bonkers xD It's the figure I always think of when I think back to that aera of painting. I also came across Shep Paines Book on dioramas the other day when I cleaned out my basement and thought...man, how far have we come as a hobby. I really love when there is guests with a history in and knowledge about the history of the hobby on the show.
Great show. The chemistry with Don was definitely on point. Would be great to see him again, maybe even a historical or military focused topic? Would be great to see you guys paint something like that too. It's just that I can relate as I'm of an age were I've just ordered some Bolt Action and I'm getting the urge to get some Napoleonics :/
Great show guys. Don is a amazing painter and Old friend.. I was the guy he named drop around the 32 min mark. Don gave me the heads up about the show but I've had a few people now message me and tell me I was mentioned! Old memories here.. Demons was a big part of my life for many years. Competed in both US and UK.
Great to see you here Jeff! It’s been many years but I always remember those times creating armies for “B” and “M” as some of the most fun and rewarding work we did. “Gut shoot’em at the River!”
As a person who painted pre-internet and then restarted now, I guarantee that the information available now makes it possible to paint better. I got back in after Covid hit and just from watching random youtube stuff and getting inspired; I put brush to model, the results were better than anything I had done before. I am sure age and patience has a bearing on it but just seeing the modern techniques and results just doubles your painting power instantly.
I'm glad Don is still proud of his achievements to this day and doesn't think it was "easier" to win back then. I'd love to see the detractors make something better with the tools, sculpts and resources avaliable to Don at the time.
This was one of my favourite episodes for sure! Don is a true gem - hopefully, lots of new Kislev models in the near future for him to play around with and maybe catch another well-deserved award (or more!) with. Look forward to seeing more of his work in some of those shots Scott offered to take in the new studio as well. Also: dang that bacon sounds good
Reaper's MSP Open also uses the MMSI Open scoring system and has for many years. There are four categories: Painter, Open, Dioramas and Vignettes, and Ordnance. And the competition for any Gold is ferocious. I had to miss this year's ReaperCon, but in 2019, there were just under 1000 entries into the competition. Also, when Genghis Con was running more painting classes and a competition we also used the MMSI system. (NB: We're hoping to rebuild the Genghis Con painting competition over the next few years.) FWIW, I strongly prefer the Open system. Really good show this week. Don is a brilliant interview.
Despite being in the hobby since 3rd edition, I hadn't heard of Don until this point, but he's now one of my favorite people. What a guy, and what a wonderful sense of humor!
I could listen to many more episodes of Don. This ep is phenomenal, very underrated. It's odd to see both Scott AND Jon simultaneously being absorbed in a guest episode. Love it!
This has to be my favourite episode yet. Don seems like such a nice guy and so full of genuine knowledge, some of which "just paint it" is simple but good to hear! I liked listening about the moving and growing painting styles but seeing what got me into the hobby was really good from a nostalgic point of view. I'd like to see him back and doing more episodes in this way! 🤘
This is my favorite episode in quite some time. Excellent topics, discussion & guest. I hope you continue to put out such focused, deep dive conversations regarding the hobby. 10/10 with rice ;)
Gentlemen, another amazing podcast. Don was a great addition! I love his passion! Also, the Trophy Hunter Kickstarter is great! It is made by a guy from my country, and then he sponsored you guys, yay!
Don was a great guest! I'd love another episode with him talking about the differences between the gaming/fantasy painting scene and the historical scene
I said in previous episode comments that I was from the historical side of the hobby (72nd, 35th, 32nd & 16th military) and I would love to see the boys do something on their respective channels on those subjects.... But This? Don Effin Haney....AWESOME!!! Thank you for having him on, but I wish he'd had brought one of his armor builds, especially his Abrams 🙂
This was my favorite episode so far. Don was an excellent guest and a new listener could even be confused that he was a guest and not one of the hosts. Would love to hear him on another episode.
I've noticed that i really like the way the camera is positioned, it feels like i am behind the table with you. Please continue with this after you move to that office.☺
This episode brought me back to the days of Phoenix Games on Lake Street in Minneapolis. I definitely remember some of those names from the early 2000's. I won a silver demon myself back then, but Bennett Blalock-Doane was putting out some jaw-dropping stuff. Thanks for the trip down memory road. Great episode!
Hey! Congrats on the silver demon! I’m officially adding you to my list of Minnesota Winners so when I tell people about our “rich and storied traditions” you will be included the tales of glory!
It's nice to see Don I haven't seen him in eons. He is a nice guy and fun to chat with. I shall put this interview on while I paint and pretend I'm at a virtual paint in.
Fantastic episode, Don Haney was a great guest, it would be great to have him as part of the show, with Jon and Scott he formed a really fun and interesting trio 🙂👍
great episode. I went to the MMSI show for the first time this year. Nice show with a good variety of different subjects. It's been interesting watching the progression of the hobby since I first started competing way back in 1989. I do like the open judging system, but it can be turned into a "participation" award if the judgers get lazy. I did well with the crystal brush shows but I'm really not going to miss it.... Can't wait to see the Demons next year.
I love how Jon talks about butchering pig being strangely close to butchering humans as the first moments of Don on the podcast. Glad you didn't scare him too much, we need more old school painters and their wisdom in the minipainitng youtube game! I hope we'll get to see Don again!
1:21 : welcome to our painting world here in Europe. I'm glad most of our painting competitions have the open system as you're competing against all the pros from spain over france up to poland and russia and everybody in between. So all we Goody PP breadcrumbs are happy to be able to get at least something while Best Of Show and all the other special awards go to people wich earn their money with miniature painting.
Awesome episode. I think this is probably my favorite. Don is an excellent guest, and it was very interesting to learn more of the history and background.
Wanted to mention another show with an open judging system. Wonderfest, in Louisville KY in early June. It is mainly a sci-fi / horror/ fantasy model convention, but there has been a growing segment of miniatures entered into the contest. So much so that it has it's own category now. The contest has a bunch of categories, but since things are judged on their own merit, that doesn't really matter. The categories are more to organize the kits, and to help assign judges more familiar with the subject to those subjects. I think there were somewhere around 50-60 entries in the mini category last year, based on the photos I took. They award gold, silver, bronze, and certificate of merit. Not everything gets an award. Only if it's good enough. The merit is just to kind of let you know, you were close, but not quite good enough to medal. The judging is also pretty strict. So even getting a merit is no small feat. Anyone in that area of the country should consider checking it out. It's a fun time.
That was a really awesome show. A really entertaining and interesting interview to listen to, you all had a wonderful chemistry. Loved seeing Don's Kislev diorama, it was a pure nostalgia hit seeing a beautiful diorama from the pages of the white dwarf of my teenage years. You should try for a gathering of the golden demon winners of Minnesota, it would be interesting to hear about old rivalries, friendships and anecdotes from other members of that scene as companion pieces to Don's recollections.
Great Episode, Don was great with great perspective on painting competitions. Also like the historical aspect, as I somehow keep looking at a box of Greek Hoplites for some reason...
Great show (as always)! Interesting commentary on our social dynamic where the need is perceived to explain/defend/apologize for hunting and processing animal meat - though we can create and laud minis and dioramas full of human carnage without a negative comment. Fascinating 🧐
My first job was working in a grocery store, which I was able to transfer into the meat department in time. After working there for a while I started working at a local custom meat shop, where we processed Wild Game, Privately Owned livestock and USDA (for our stores meat case for public sale). Let me just say that there is a world of difference between what we would see, being as our slaughter would bring back most of the stocklive simply quartered versus what some who has only worked at a grocery store where everything is already broken down to primal cuts or more all vacuum packed in a box. It also gives one a whole new respect for the foods and meats that you eat as well.
I don't usually comment on TH-cam. I have to say the mix of you three is amazing. This should be the show. We all need a bit of Hobby Gandalf in our lives.
So, Games Day '92 was paired with Golden Demon and they were in the Baltimore area. The Games Day events of '92-'93 were held in Tall Cedars Hall in Parkville, MD. The following year the event moved to the Baltimore Convention Center and started running over 2 days. I was a die hard and went to all of them from '92-0'7.
Gencon's painting competition also is rubric based. I've gotten useful feedback from it in the past. The do pick overall winners in each category too, but it is nice to be able to think you paint at a bronze, silver or gold standard.
I think the winner take all attitude comes more from the tournament nature that mini-gaming has. As to where the historical stuff while does have some tournaments its more about the process, hobby, and just knowing the history as we all have had relatives that participated in the various wars/conflicts. Thus it has more of a feeling of honoring them.
Yes, it makes perfect sense that gaming conventions would have a competitive winner-take-all painting contest. However, based on a number of comments here, I didn’t do my research very well before the show since it’s been pointed out that a number of gaming conventions have adopted the Open System for their painting competitions both in the US and in Europe. In addition, I also failed to mention that even within the Open system, other awards can be presented such as Best of Show or awards for best themes. Many times these are voted on by the crowd in attendance but the judges sometimes award these in addition to the regular medals.
Man I remember the Warhammer shop in Memphis. HUGE display cases with like, idk, 10 themed play boards. Last time I was there it had turned into a small store and the warehouse had taken over the gaming space.
If you are looking for other painting competitions that use an Open system, Warfaire Weekend in St. Louis is a great convention. In addition to awarding gold, silver, and bronze based on merit, they do hand out a Best in Show award too. This year Chris Suhre won with The Adventuring Party. They don’t grade on a curve so you can get an idea of where you stand year-over-year. I know this year they didn’t hand out all their gold and silver medals, but they had to find more bronze medals to hand out.
I would love to hear Don back on for an episode topic about techniques and approaches used in historicals vs gaming miniature painting or something similar. He's great.
I need to correct a glaring omission in this interview. My intention in bringing Jeff and Jim into the story was to highlight that all three of us were Golden Demon winners. As I recounted the story of my win in ‘97, I had intended to state that the following year at Games Day ‘98, Jim Ball won three demons. However, Scott asked me a question and I lost the thread, failing to give my good friend the recognition I had intended as part of our original creative trio.
I want to let the Goody PPs know that Jim’s miniature painting, along with Jeff’s, was extremely influential to me in those early days and he was justifiably recognized for that great work by also winning in Baltimore in ‘98.
Again -Don for the love of Katarin the Ice Queen -tell Jon and Scott to pin your comments so they don't get buried! As a guest on the show your amendments and corrections are of great value☺
Rock on! Thank you and I appreciate your character. +1
@@madsbojensen1 Thanks Mads....Scott was only able to pin one comment and I thought it more important to set the record straight so this is the one that was chosen. Appreciate the suggestion. Thanks for the nice comments.
You where a delight to see on the podcast interesting to hear your perspective on painting competitions rules.
I just want to say, you're a legend sir. It was amazing watching and listening to you.
Listen up Goody PPs…Hobby Gandalf here. I just want to take a moment to thank you all for the kind words and let you all know how appreciative I am of the opportunity to “share the stage” with Scott and Jon for this episode. I guess you can tell, we had a lot of fun with this one.
My “poorly maintained” Instagram pages have been blowing up all day with likes and new followers. I am humbled by this and again, want to say thanks to everyone for this kindness. Now I gotta actually add new content more than once every six weeks…damn you internet notoriety!!! 😁 Well, I’m sure there are some lore-based photos I can add…those should be easy!
Hobby Gandalf out!
Tell Scott and Jon to pin this comment so it doesn't disappear ☺ Also, what a wonderful storyteller you are, sir!
Don you were a treat to listen to! I hope you make it back on the podcast some day! I have a ton of appreciation and respect for oldschool Warhammer and mini painting in general. Thanks so much for sharing your amazing stories and history with the hobby!
You Where my favorite guest on trapped under plastic so far. I hope they have you on again soon !
What is your Instagram? Would love to follow. Cheers for being so inspirational. 👊👊
Victor Hardys Christian Demon was completely bonkers xD
It's the figure I always think of when I think back to that aera of painting.
I also came across Shep Paines Book on dioramas the other day when I cleaned out my basement and thought...man, how far have we come as a hobby.
I really love when there is guests with a history in and knowledge about the history of the hobby on the show.
we love it too!
that book is a classic. I've always wanted to try making a mini shadow box diorama
Great show. The chemistry with Don was definitely on point. Would be great to see him again, maybe even a historical or military focused topic? Would be great to see you guys paint something like that too. It's just that I can relate as I'm of an age were I've just ordered some Bolt Action and I'm getting the urge to get some Napoleonics :/
Trapped under plastic; the miniature painting podcast that makes Mondays objectively better than Fridays.
every other monday*
but I agree
Let's not go crazy now.
@@IanBoyte it's a short trip
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absolute winner
Well done, sir.
Great show guys. Don is a amazing painter and Old friend.. I was the guy he named drop around the 32 min mark. Don gave me the heads up about the show but I've had a few people now message me and tell me I was mentioned! Old memories here.. Demons was a big part of my life for many years. Competed in both US and UK.
Great to see you here Jeff! It’s been many years but I always remember those times creating armies for “B” and “M” as some of the most fun and rewarding work we did. “Gut shoot’em at the River!”
As a person who painted pre-internet and then restarted now, I guarantee that the information available now makes it possible to paint better. I got back in after Covid hit and just from watching random youtube stuff and getting inspired; I put brush to model, the results were better than anything I had done before. I am sure age and patience has a bearing on it but just seeing the modern techniques and results just doubles your painting power instantly.
Came from Spotify just to leave this comment: Don is easily the best guest you've had on!
I'm glad Don is still proud of his achievements to this day and doesn't think it was "easier" to win back then. I'd love to see the detractors make something better with the tools, sculpts and resources avaliable to Don at the time.
This was one of my favourite episodes for sure! Don is a true gem - hopefully, lots of new Kislev models in the near future for him to play around with and maybe catch another well-deserved award (or more!) with. Look forward to seeing more of his work in some of those shots Scott offered to take in the new studio as well.
Also: dang that bacon sounds good
Great video! Glad to see Don still has his winning pieces!
Reaper's MSP Open also uses the MMSI Open scoring system and has for many years. There are four categories: Painter, Open, Dioramas and Vignettes, and Ordnance. And the competition for any Gold is ferocious. I had to miss this year's ReaperCon, but in 2019, there were just under 1000 entries into the competition.
Also, when Genghis Con was running more painting classes and a competition we also used the MMSI system. (NB: We're hoping to rebuild the Genghis Con painting competition over the next few years.)
FWIW, I strongly prefer the Open system.
Really good show this week. Don is a brilliant interview.
man, this episode was ALL smiles from me. LOVE The OGs. thanks for doing this
Despite being in the hobby since 3rd edition, I hadn't heard of Don until this point, but he's now one of my favorite people. What a guy, and what a wonderful sense of humor!
The skin tones on the WWII model is excellent. Very realistic, great shadowing and lighting too.
I could listen to many more episodes of Don. This ep is phenomenal, very underrated. It's odd to see both Scott AND Jon simultaneously being absorbed in a guest episode. Love it!
This has to be my favourite episode yet. Don seems like such a nice guy and so full of genuine knowledge, some of which "just paint it" is simple but good to hear! I liked listening about the moving and growing painting styles but seeing what got me into the hobby was really good from a nostalgic point of view. I'd like to see him back and doing more episodes in this way! 🤘
I had a Don and Jim to learn from :)
And I can say Don's models look amazing in person the pictures do them no justice.
Thanks Gandalf!
This is my favorite episode in quite some time.
Excellent topics, discussion & guest.
I hope you continue to put out such focused, deep dive conversations regarding the hobby.
10/10 with rice ;)
I love the direction you guys are taking the show with the guests. Don was great to listen to
This was fascinating! Don is a joy to listen to. Thanks for giving a platform to his wisdom!
I am really loving this format. I love the guest and the conversations. Great idea guys.
Gentlemen, another amazing podcast. Don was a great addition! I love his passion! Also, the Trophy Hunter Kickstarter is great! It is made by a guy from my country, and then he sponsored you guys, yay!
I freaking love this episode and love having Don on the podcast. I would love to see him on regularly!
I had the pleasure of working with Don back in the day. One of the greatest humans I've had the pleasure of knowing and calling a friend!
Such kind words, and I thank you! Are you able to divulge your true name so that we might reminisce? Alternatively, send me a DM over on Insta.
Don was a great guest! I'd love another episode with him talking about the differences between the gaming/fantasy painting scene and the historical scene
That was great. Definitely need Don to come back for another episode.
I said in previous episode comments that I was from the historical side of the hobby (72nd, 35th, 32nd & 16th military) and I would love to see the boys do something on their respective channels on those subjects.... But This? Don Effin Haney....AWESOME!!! Thank you for having him on, but I wish he'd had brought one of his armor builds, especially his Abrams 🙂
This was my favorite episode so far. Don was an excellent guest and a new listener could even be confused that he was a guest and not one of the hosts. Would love to hear him on another episode.
"Pre-tirement" is how we talk about suddenly having to make our own hustle, Jon.
Don is awesome!
Great episode. Loved seeing Don on the show, it would be awesome to hear from him again in the future.
I've noticed that i really like the way the camera is positioned, it feels like i am behind the table with you. Please continue with this after you move to that office.☺
Absolutely epic episode! So great to see some classic painting action/advice and was cute seeing you guys awestruck by a painting guru. 💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Don is a great guest! Listening while hobbying, thanks Jon and Scott!
This episode brought me back to the days of Phoenix Games on Lake Street in Minneapolis. I definitely remember some of those names from the early 2000's. I won a silver demon myself back then, but Bennett Blalock-Doane was putting out some jaw-dropping stuff. Thanks for the trip down memory road. Great episode!
Hey! Congrats on the silver demon! I’m officially adding you to my list of Minnesota Winners so when I tell people about our “rich and storied traditions” you will be included the tales of glory!
Really great episode.
Don is brilliant, please have him back on the show in 2022.
Maybe have a diorama or historicals focused episode?
What a great show guys, keep up that great work, great guest in this episode.
It's nice to see Don I haven't seen him in eons. He is a nice guy and fun to chat with. I shall put this interview on while I paint and pretend I'm at a virtual paint in.
I loved Don's intro speech. "The coping mechanism for the financially irresponsible" is spot on!
Absolutely loved this episode! Please bring Don back someday, he's awesome
Fantastic episode, Don Haney was a great guest, it would be great to have him as part of the show, with Jon and Scott he formed a really fun and interesting trio 🙂👍
great episode. I went to the MMSI show for the first time this year. Nice show with a good variety of different subjects. It's been interesting watching the progression of the hobby since I first started competing way back in 1989. I do like the open judging system, but it can be turned into a "participation" award if the judgers get lazy. I did well with the crystal brush shows but I'm really not going to miss it.... Can't wait to see the Demons next year.
Great cast! Keep up the good work!
loved his energy on the show, very pleasant voice to listen to. wouldnt mind seeing him again
Guys that was the best episode! really loved it.
I love how Jon talks about butchering pig being strangely close to butchering humans as the first moments of Don on the podcast. Glad you didn't scare him too much, we need more old school painters and their wisdom in the minipainitng youtube game! I hope we'll get to see Don again!
1:21 : welcome to our painting world here in Europe. I'm glad most of our painting competitions have the open system as you're competing against all the pros from spain over france up to poland and russia and everybody in between. So all we Goody PP breadcrumbs are happy to be able to get at least something while Best Of Show and all the other special awards go to people wich earn their money with miniature painting.
Awesome episode. I think this is probably my favorite. Don is an excellent guest, and it was very interesting to learn more of the history and background.
Gold guys! love the vibes, you motivate and inspire me to pick up the hobby again.
Don is awesome, loved his presence on the show.
Man, I loved this. Don seems like such a great guy.
Wanted to mention another show with an open judging system.
Wonderfest, in Louisville KY in early June.
It is mainly a sci-fi / horror/ fantasy model convention, but there has been a growing segment of miniatures entered into the contest.
So much so that it has it's own category now. The contest has a bunch of categories, but since things are judged on their own merit, that doesn't really matter. The categories are more to organize the kits, and to help assign judges more familiar with the subject to those subjects. I think there were somewhere around 50-60 entries in the mini category last year, based on the photos I took. They award gold, silver, bronze, and certificate of merit. Not everything gets an award. Only if it's good enough. The merit is just to kind of let you know, you were close, but not quite good enough to medal. The judging is also pretty strict. So even getting a merit is no small feat.
Anyone in that area of the country should consider checking it out. It's a fun time.
Great interview, loved this! Jeff's stuff is awesome too! Highly recommend dragon studio
Seriously, such a great listen. Amazing guest. Amazing chat.
This was a great show - really interested to hear pretty much everything Don had to say - fascinating!
That was a really awesome show. A really entertaining and interesting interview to listen to, you all had a wonderful chemistry. Loved seeing Don's Kislev diorama, it was a pure nostalgia hit seeing a beautiful diorama from the pages of the white dwarf of my teenage years.
You should try for a gathering of the golden demon winners of Minnesota, it would be interesting to hear about old rivalries, friendships and anecdotes from other members of that scene as companion pieces to Don's recollections.
Love this dude... More of this please..!
Great Episode, Don was great with great perspective on painting competitions. Also like the historical aspect, as I somehow keep looking at a box of Greek Hoplites for some reason...
Great show (as always)! Interesting commentary on our social dynamic where the need is perceived to explain/defend/apologize for hunting and processing animal meat - though we can create and laud minis and dioramas full of human carnage without a negative comment. Fascinating 🧐
Hobby Gandalf's pictures are never late, they are posted precisely when they are meant to be.
Classic!
Don was such a great guest, awesome episode.
Damn, such a great episode!
My first job was working in a grocery store, which I was able to transfer into the meat department in time. After working there for a while I started working at a local custom meat shop, where we processed Wild Game, Privately Owned livestock and USDA (for our stores meat case for public sale). Let me just say that there is a world of difference between what we would see, being as our slaughter would bring back most of the stocklive simply quartered versus what some who has only worked at a grocery store where everything is already broken down to primal cuts or more all vacuum packed in a box.
It also gives one a whole new respect for the foods and meats that you eat as well.
Damn, Don is one smooth dude! Please bring him back!
Guys… this season…. Is kicking so much A$$ so far. Keep it up!!
I don't usually comment on TH-cam. I have to say the mix of you three is amazing. This should be the show. We all need a bit of Hobby Gandalf in our lives.
I loved every minute of this. Thank you so much!
I don't comment much but Don was such an incredibly pleasant guest on the podcast and his perspective was really nice. Great episode guys!
Fantastic guest. Such a great episode.
So, Games Day '92 was paired with Golden Demon and they were in the Baltimore area. The Games Day events of '92-'93 were held in Tall Cedars Hall in Parkville, MD. The following year the event moved to the Baltimore Convention Center and started running over 2 days. I was a die hard and went to all of them from '92-0'7.
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First episode for me and I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to digging into past shows. 🙂
Gencon's painting competition also is rubric based. I've gotten useful feedback from it in the past. The do pick overall winners in each category too, but it is nice to be able to think you paint at a bronze, silver or gold standard.
This was a treat, Don seems like such a nice guy :)
Hey Guys! Thanx for the new Jefferey Dahmer Beginner's Guide! Jon's testimony on slaughter and processing made my Monday, Thanx again!
I hope Don becomes a regular guest or co-host. Great to hear his stories.
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I think the winner take all attitude comes more from the tournament nature that mini-gaming has. As to where the historical stuff while does have some tournaments its more about the process, hobby, and just knowing the history as we all have had relatives that participated in the various wars/conflicts. Thus it has more of a feeling of honoring them.
Yes, it makes perfect sense that gaming conventions would have a competitive winner-take-all painting contest. However, based on a number of comments here, I didn’t do my research very well before the show since it’s been pointed out that a number of gaming conventions have adopted the Open System for their painting competitions both in the US and in Europe.
In addition, I also failed to mention that even within the Open system, other awards can be presented such as Best of Show or awards for best themes. Many times these are voted on by the crowd in attendance but the judges sometimes award these in addition to the regular medals.
In these days I'd be really happy if I could phone order individual bits straight from GW and they would actually arrive in 3 weeks.
Man I remember the Warhammer shop in Memphis. HUGE display cases with like, idk, 10 themed play boards. Last time I was there it had turned into a small store and the warehouse had taken over the gaming space.
I’m a hobby old timer too. This was such a great episode!
Okay, amazing intro from Don. Also, my goodness, Don seems to be such a pleasant person. Such a joy to listen to.
I could have listened to that about 120 minutes more!
Great episode!
Great guest, I hope he is back in the future for another episode
What?! Great job Jon!! super proud of you bro!!!
As a hobbyist and HR professional myself... the pre-amble ramble here was pretty cool!
Man, Don is such a great guest! I'd gladly take more.
If you are looking for other painting competitions that use an Open system, Warfaire Weekend in St. Louis is a great convention. In addition to awarding gold, silver, and bronze based on merit, they do hand out a Best in Show award too. This year Chris Suhre won with The Adventuring Party. They don’t grade on a curve so you can get an idea of where you stand year-over-year. I know this year they didn’t hand out all their gold and silver medals, but they had to find more bronze medals to hand out.
Don is awesome. Hope you guys can have him back.
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I would love to hear Don back on for an episode topic about techniques and approaches used in historicals vs gaming miniature painting or something similar. He's great.
Best guest and best episode so far for me.
For me, that was the best episode. Keep on!
Best Episode yet. Great guest.
Such a lovely and wholesome episode
so far this is my favourite episode, saved! :)
Really great episode
I would be excited if you guys ever created a painting competition. I would totally enter to support.
Best show so far. This was awesome