None of the groups under hybe are mistreated. Hybe is a multi label corporation . Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, creative funds and music distribution for each label. All labels under hybe work independently. .
You’re such a liar even Seventeen members specifically Woozi will tell that pledis is not independent (Hybe owns 80% of it ) & they still have to get approval from Hybe to even release a song that they self produced. Fromis was mistreated, they were placed on hiatus for over a year with no income & had to beg on live just to get the supersonic album . A member crying and begging on weverse is the definition of mistreatment, you are gaslighting the audience just to stick up for Hybe when fromis is telling you what they experienced. My goodness, none of the labels at Hybe run independently ( at best, Belift Lab kinda does it’s own thing but even enhypen will say how involved Hybe is in their concept, song production, etc. ) an INDEPENDENT label is Starship who is under Kakao but Kakao doesn’t micromanage the daily activities of Starship and they have their own building for day to day stuff involving Ive, Cravity & Monsta X. Hybe literally micromanages all of its groups & put them all in one building and then you wanna have the audacity to say Hybe labels are independent (pure foolishness). They don’t even have their own TH-cam channels, staff or anything like that. Hybe appoints and fires whoever they want in each label that’s not independent!!
And tell me that it was only Source decision to disband GFriend and right after that just in few days Hybe announces Le Sserafim to debute under Source. Not Source, Hybe announced that. Also somehow fromis lost all of their content right after Pledis got a new CEO that was the vice-ceo of BigHit. I seriously won't be surpised if Hybe will announce the debute of a new group under Pledis next year just like they did before.
It should be more So Pledis failed Fromis_9 than Hybe. Those girls have the ability to be equally as popular as the other gg in the big house of Hybe-LSF, Illit, and NJ, but idk why Pledis just said ignore them. Maybe it was the old CEO and they simply didn't want to chance another 3-4 years with hope in the nee CEO. They really are loosing a gem of a group. I wish them the best and im sure any other company would scoop them up given their experience and talent if they choose to continue with music.
The majority of mistreatement started when Pledis got the new CEO that was also the Vice CEO of BigHit. It was then fromis were slowely losing all of their content and comebacks were started to be forced by fans.
Fromis9 contracts was only for 3-4years. They transferred to pledis entertainment from a sublabel of cjenm. Under a business agreement both companies had before hybe brought pledis entertainment.
I have never heard of that group before. Probably they didn’t make money. They decided to not extend the contract, it might be for good. If a group makes loss, the members have to share the loss too. They might want to end as they still have money in their pocket. A group survived or not, it’s not only the company, but also the relationships and conflicts between those girls. 9 girls are too many for a group. And then count the parents in. Backstreet Boys, Boyzone, Westlife, ….also disbanded. Sometimes, a member thinks he/she better than the others just like Justin Timberlake. He/she can pursuit own career. Some get tired of the hard works as a group …. You don’t know.
The fck you saying 😂 well yes internationally they are not well known but locally they're everywhere, from hosting tv shows, radio programs, being guest to different variety shows and so on. So we cannot really say that they failed, because if that is the definition of failure then we can also conclude that local celebrities from each country that is not well known internationally is also a failure.
I don't have any source about that but I do have statement from member who said she was hoping to get pay her first paycheck so... I can't do assumption because it will called misinformation.....
The way y'all need nj now to get views even in videos that aren't about them. If any one of u who support this truly sympathizes with fromis 9 you wouldn't even bother comparing them with nj. You're not truly supporting them instead you're just using them as an example to spread more hate towards another group or in the case of this creator to get more views. Also, it's funny how y'all think hybe can mistreat fromis 9 but no way it would mistreat nj. "Do you think a company that paid millions into a group's debut would mistreat their own group? Hybe is not that dumb" right?
Why not? If it is perfect example what ungratefulness looks like you can do example of it ,this video not about new jeans but they are very good example what ungratefulness look like ....and when it comes to fromis9 hybe& pledis never even try to give chance to fromis9 mostly Pledis fault because they had money after they joined to hybe so they could do more comebacks like NJ illit lesserafim 2 comebacks a year with one single extra , but no they had total two comebacks with nonexistenting promotions in two years in their join to hybe , hybe could give money if pledis ask for promotions and better comeback for fromis9 but we all know what kind of shitty company pledis is.... even after joining to hybe didn't change a thing
@Xiwang希望 There was absolutely no need to use an EXAMPLE when you already have enough to prove that fromis 9 has been mistreated. For what reason exactly you needed an example to prove that NEWJEANS are being ungrateful when you want to feel pity for fromis 9 like how is that even related? You just wanted a reason to drag nj into this. You proving that nj are ungrateful has nothing to do with their mistreatment at all just accept it
Fromis 9 , kepler, elz7up , and wsjn i think all the colab/auditon program group is destined to be ruined if they cant soar high super quick(if they luckilyto be debut really) , too much hands involved too much company too obliege ....
I agree that Fromis_9 deserve better. But the unpaid case is only joking from Megan (Jiwon) when she said she have not received payment this year. It does not mean "unpaid". Because I don't know if they pay later or not. Before Fromis_9 transferred to Pledis, they flop. Many South Korea people hate them because they think the survival show (Idol School) who debuted Fromis_9 was rigged. After Fromis_9 under Pledis, Fromis_9 started won music show. They gained popularity. But album sales still low compare to girl group from Big 3 and Hybe. One year before disband, Pledis discontinue their youtube channel "Channel_9" which is my favorite at that time. At the same time, Pledis prepare new boy group called TWS. Now TWS success with their song at number one on Melon Top 100 and got rookie award. The "mistreatment" accusation is too much and still base on assumption. If after this, all member of Fromis_9 sign to other company as a group, it mean they did dot satisfy with Pledis. We must wait... I hope Jiwon, Seoyeon, Hayoung, and Nakyoung continue as singer because they have good vocal technique. Chaeyoung is veru funny and good in variety show. If your facts is wrong, your opinion become wrong.
Main vocalist Fromis_9, Jiwon has better vocal technique than many main vocalist of girl groups like IVE, New Jeans, Le sserafim, Illit, Itzy, Aespa, NMIXX, Blackpink, Twice. She is in the level of Wendy Red Velvet and Solar Mamamoo. I only like few songs from Fromis_9 but I watched almost all contents from Fromis_9 becuase they are funny, hilarious, and very pretty.
Duh of course they do 🥴 who on earth will work so hard without getting paid, and btw if you don't want to make conversion in English, then stop spamming the comment section using the said language.
@@Xiwang希望 lol u didn't understand his comment. The point of his comment is hybe is a shity company and u paid you tubers are still supporting hybe. So u r accepting hybe is not good for new jeans?!
@@juyelbiswas3912 sis , he is troll , he commenting sarcastic comments all over my channel , calling me flop and telling me I am hybe stand and hater of newjean for making newjeans news videos and when I am showing I am not stand of any side he is making sarcastic comments like this .
@@untoldstory5931 If they don’t see any potential in Formis 9 anymore than of course they won’t invest in them. Who the fuck will invest in a group that won’t make them much money. This is not charity. You can’t blame hybe for it
Fromis is not disbanding guys, they will probably transfer to another company as a group similar to what Viviz & The Boyz did. & you still have people defending Hybe/Pledis when the members themselves said they were mistreated lmaooo that Nicole commentor is very unserious. & Nicole NONE of the labels work independently, Hybe owns 80% to 90% of all its labels, they don’t even have their own TH-cam channel or building like Starship does who is under Kakao . Kakao doesn’t meddle & micromanage the daily activities of Starship , but Hybe constantly micromanages everything the labels do from approving songs or not approving songs that Woozi self produced for his group, being involved in the concept & production of Enhypen etc. Hybe literally put all of its labels in one building & then appoints and fires whoever they want which proves there’s no independence . Just so ridiculous & pure foolishness.
Label stans will never be true kpop fans because no matter what they will take the labels side of the story. They will defend Hybe or other labels (depending who they are stanning) with everything they got and no matter how much logic and truth your points will have they will deny all of it because they are that brainwashed. "It was Source decision to disband GFriend". Intresting right after Hybe choose the new CEO for Source. "It was Pledis decision to cancel fromis content". Right after Hybe choose the new Pledis CEO.
None of the groups under hybe are mistreated. Hybe is a multi label corporation . Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, creative funds and music distribution for each label. All labels under hybe work independently. .
You’re such a liar even Seventeen members specifically Woozi will tell that pledis is not independent (Hybe owns 80% of it ) & they still have to get approval from Hybe to even release a song that they self produced. Fromis was mistreated, they were placed on hiatus for over a year with no income & had to beg on live just to get the supersonic album . A member crying and begging on weverse is the definition of mistreatment, you are gaslighting the audience just to stick up for Hybe when fromis is telling you what they experienced. My goodness, none of the labels at Hybe run independently ( at best, Belift Lab kinda does it’s own thing but even enhypen will say how involved Hybe is in their concept, song production, etc. ) an INDEPENDENT label is Starship who is under Kakao but Kakao doesn’t micromanage the daily activities of Starship and they have their own building for day to day stuff involving Ive, Cravity & Monsta X. Hybe literally micromanages all of its groups & put them all in one building and then you wanna have the audacity to say Hybe labels are independent (pure foolishness). They don’t even have their own TH-cam channels, staff or anything like that. Hybe appoints and fires whoever they want in each label that’s not independent!!
Like you work there LOL
@@CutiePie-hh3gg it's true.. or are you another one of those dummy bunnies
@@CutiePie-hh3gg did you work there?
And tell me that it was only Source decision to disband GFriend and right after that just in few days Hybe announces Le Sserafim to debute under Source. Not Source, Hybe announced that. Also somehow fromis lost all of their content right after Pledis got a new CEO that was the vice-ceo of BigHit. I seriously won't be surpised if Hybe will announce the debute of a new group under Pledis next year just like they did before.
All NJ, Fromise_9 and Vcha situations are SUPER DIFFERENT, it is not comparable
It should be more
So Pledis failed Fromis_9 than Hybe. Those girls have the ability to be equally as popular as the other gg in the big house of Hybe-LSF, Illit, and NJ, but idk why Pledis just said ignore them. Maybe it was the old CEO and they simply didn't want to chance another 3-4 years with hope in the nee CEO. They really are loosing a gem of a group. I wish them the best and im sure any other company would scoop them up given their experience and talent if they choose to continue with music.
The majority of mistreatement started when Pledis got the new CEO that was also the Vice CEO of BigHit. It was then fromis were slowely losing all of their content and comebacks were started to be forced by fans.
@deluxis4991 By new CEO I mean Kim Yeon-soo (he debuted Seventeen) who just appointed in November not the one from Hybe he replaced
Fromis9 contracts was only for 3-4years. They transferred to pledis entertainment from a sublabel of cjenm. Under a business agreement both companies had before hybe brought pledis entertainment.
It’s typical pledis, I guess not even hybe could change their love for wasting talent
😅😅😅😅😅I hope they get bankruptcy
@@Xiwang希望 Now way. Pledis gave the second biggest profit to Hybe. Pledis have Seventeen. Your argument mostly base on assumption, not base on fact.
It's both of those labels. Pledis and BigHit now Hybe have a really bad record for poorly managing their girl groups.
WTF they never been paid!!? Terrible
It is always the artists decisions to renew their contracts or not
Yes but to have a comeback is company decision and hybe and Pledis didn't give to fromis9 any of it
@@Xiwang希望 exactly this person is a Hybe Stan just completely disregarding what fromis was experiencing!!
I have never heard of that group before. Probably they didn’t make money. They decided to not extend the contract, it might be for good. If a group makes loss, the members have to share the loss too. They might want to end as they still have money in their pocket.
A group survived or not, it’s not only the company, but also the relationships and conflicts between those girls. 9 girls are too many for a group. And then count the parents in.
Backstreet Boys, Boyzone, Westlife, ….also disbanded. Sometimes, a member thinks he/she better than the others just like Justin Timberlake. He/she can pursuit own career. Some get tired of the hard works as a group …. You don’t know.
The fck you saying 😂 well yes internationally they are not well known but locally they're everywhere, from hosting tv shows, radio programs, being guest to different variety shows and so on. So we cannot really say that they failed, because if that is the definition of failure then we can also conclude that local celebrities from each country that is not well known internationally is also a failure.
They are all provided everything. And are paid well.
I don't have any source about that but I do have statement from member who said she was hoping to get pay her first paycheck so... I can't do assumption because it will called misinformation.....
No, they were not lol !!
The way y'all need nj now to get views even in videos that aren't about them. If any one of u who support this truly sympathizes with fromis 9 you wouldn't even bother comparing them with nj. You're not truly supporting them instead you're just using them as an example to spread more hate towards another group or in the case of this creator to get more views. Also, it's funny how y'all think hybe can mistreat fromis 9 but no way it would mistreat nj. "Do you think a company that paid millions into a group's debut would mistreat their own group? Hybe is not that dumb" right?
Why not? If it is perfect example what ungratefulness looks like you can do example of it ,this video not about new jeans but they are very good example what ungratefulness look like ....and when it comes to fromis9 hybe& pledis never even try to give chance to fromis9 mostly Pledis fault because they had money after they joined to hybe so they could do more comebacks like NJ illit lesserafim 2 comebacks a year with one single extra , but no they had total two comebacks with nonexistenting promotions in two years in their join to hybe , hybe could give money if pledis ask for promotions and better comeback for fromis9 but we all know what kind of shitty company pledis is.... even after joining to hybe didn't change a thing
@Xiwang希望 There was absolutely no need to use an EXAMPLE when you already have enough to prove that fromis 9 has been mistreated. For what reason exactly you needed an example to prove that NEWJEANS are being ungrateful when you want to feel pity for fromis 9 like how is that even related? You just wanted a reason to drag nj into this. You proving that nj are ungrateful has nothing to do with their mistreatment at all just accept it
@@Xiwang希望 go away you botch 🤫
Fromis 9 , kepler, elz7up , and wsjn i think all the colab/auditon program group is destined to be ruined if they cant soar high super quick(if they luckilyto be debut really) , too much hands involved too much company too obliege ....
WJSN is a normal group. Not from a survival show.
@deluxis4991 they're on same boat as they were under both yuehua and starship
@KantorSaja but there is still that key difference that they are made in the normal way instead of survival show.
@deluxis4991 based on their past and how they were managed, I don't see anything different same problem from top to bottom
Pledis sucks.
I agree that Fromis_9 deserve better. But the unpaid case is only joking from Megan (Jiwon) when she said she have not received payment this year. It does not mean "unpaid". Because I don't know if they pay later or not. Before Fromis_9 transferred to Pledis, they flop. Many South Korea people hate them because they think the survival show (Idol School) who debuted Fromis_9 was rigged. After Fromis_9 under Pledis, Fromis_9 started won music show. They gained popularity. But album sales still low compare to girl group from Big 3 and Hybe. One year before disband, Pledis discontinue their youtube channel "Channel_9" which is my favorite at that time. At the same time, Pledis prepare new boy group called TWS. Now TWS success with their song at number one on Melon Top 100 and got rookie award. The "mistreatment" accusation is too much and still base on assumption. If after this, all member of Fromis_9 sign to other company as a group, it mean they did dot satisfy with Pledis. We must wait... I hope Jiwon, Seoyeon, Hayoung, and Nakyoung continue as singer because they have good vocal technique. Chaeyoung is veru funny and good in variety show. If your facts is wrong, your opinion become wrong.
Main vocalist Fromis_9, Jiwon has better vocal technique than many main vocalist of girl groups like IVE, New Jeans, Le sserafim, Illit, Itzy, Aespa, NMIXX, Blackpink, Twice. She is in the level of Wendy Red Velvet and Solar Mamamoo. I only like few songs from Fromis_9 but I watched almost all contents from Fromis_9 becuase they are funny, hilarious, and very pretty.
They were paid.
So unless you speak Korea. Dont make comments
Duh of course they do 🥴 who on earth will work so hard without getting paid, and btw if you don't want to make conversion in English, then stop spamming the comment section using the said language.
Pledis is such trash! And hybe is trash for not getting involved!
wow hybe is so good👌
Do you feel any shame? Oh, I see, you're a fan of Min Hee Jin, whose fandom seems to have a different understanding of what shame truly is.
@@Xiwang希望 lol u didn't understand his comment. The point of his comment is hybe is a shity company and u paid you tubers are still supporting hybe. So u r accepting hybe is not good for new jeans?!
@@juyelbiswas3912 sis , he is troll , he commenting sarcastic comments all over my channel , calling me flop and telling me I am hybe stand and hater of newjean for making newjeans news videos and when I am showing I am not stand of any side he is making sarcastic comments like this .
@@untoldstory5931 If they don’t see any potential in Formis 9 anymore than of course they won’t invest in them. Who the fuck will invest in a group that won’t make them much money. This is not charity. You can’t blame hybe for it
@@Xiwang希望 but you are a flop and a HYBE stan🤷🏽♀️
Fromis is not disbanding guys, they will probably transfer to another company as a group similar to what Viviz & The Boyz did. & you still have people defending Hybe/Pledis when the members themselves said they were mistreated lmaooo that Nicole commentor is very unserious. & Nicole NONE of the labels work independently, Hybe owns 80% to 90% of all its labels, they don’t even have their own TH-cam channel or building like Starship does who is under Kakao . Kakao doesn’t meddle & micromanage the daily activities of Starship , but Hybe constantly micromanages everything the labels do from approving songs or not approving songs that Woozi self produced for his group, being involved in the concept & production of Enhypen etc. Hybe literally put all of its labels in one building & then appoints and fires whoever they want which proves there’s no independence . Just so ridiculous & pure foolishness.
Label stans will never be true kpop fans because no matter what they will take the labels side of the story. They will defend Hybe or other labels (depending who they are stanning) with everything they got and no matter how much logic and truth your points will have they will deny all of it because they are that brainwashed. "It was Source decision to disband GFriend". Intresting right after Hybe choose the new CEO for Source. "It was Pledis decision to cancel fromis content". Right after Hybe choose the new Pledis CEO.