I agree with all these rules. I'd only add that I don't meet anyone in bars as I'm over 20 years sober and much prefer my life now. And the 30-day rule? Absolutely, especially for the many of us with childhood traumas including neglect, various forms of abuse, drug addiction, etc. Fast sex usually leaves us bonding too fast, or running away too fast.
different attachment styles attach it to different speeds. and just a note that drinking alcohol is not required just because a bar is available. Some people who are sober cert much enjoy the ambience and vibe for romance in a lounge/ club.
I realize the alcohol is an option; but most people choose that option, and most people don't stop at one. Two or more, and the quality of conversation circles the drain. I don't avoid bars because I'd be tempted to drink; I avoid excruciating boredom from the quality of "connection."@@CoffeewithCarey
Big help thanks, this Friday is first date in 50 years, if question pops up and it easily could I'm just getting back in the dating pool- testing the waters will sound a whole lot better than I haven't dated since high school
“Testing the waters” sounds like you’re looking for something very very casual and if that’s the case all good. but if you are looking for a relationship leave out the “testing” part.
Just a suggestion ... for the women. I went on a first date yesterday, lunch with a very nice lady. However, this went just like most of my previous first dates ... I had to carry the conversation from start to finish. Fortunately, I'm innately curious so asking a variety of open-ended questions comes pretty easily. Some serious, some funny, anything but the "interview" mode. It always seems to be that way. I get it. Women need to be careful and discreet. But damn, ladies, I know you're looking for that magical "chemistry" ... but does it always have to be the guy to be the alchemist and apothecary?
if you’re seeing a pattern to your dating life that is sometimes a sign that it’s something you’re doing. do you know what it is? If not, you might want to think about working with a dating coach. That’s what we do.
@@MrFrobbo Higher value? 🤮 We’re talking about humans dating and relating here. We don’t talk about human connection in the context of someone’s ‘value’. Please don’t bring that language or mentality from the sad corners day of the Internet over to my channel. Thanks! 👍
@@CoffeewithCarey we should live in the real world, everyone has market value, dating is a competition, those who dont compete will never find a partner and its cats and wine, or gaming consoles for them. Dont be delusional, understand evolutionary biology to succeed
@@deborahdawn8192 Ladies beware of a whirlwind romance as the guy may well be a conman showering you with gifts and attention before becoming a control freak later on once you've succumbed to his charm ?
I thought these tips were excellent, especially about sitting adjacent to a date instead of across the table -- makes a big difference as to whether you can casually touch their hand when making a point in conversation.
If a woman said to me that I need to call her for a second date because she doesn’t reply to texts, and that she doesn’t want to leave the house before 10am so when I plan our second date it must be lunch or dinner…. there would be no second date. Don’t be imposing rules on a 50+ year old man after one date, believe me he will not take well to that
I think it’s more about how one states these things. Really she just shared with you her preferred communication style (not texting) and that she is not a morning person. But most would not state them as RULES. So did she really say that you “need to” or “must”? Many people appreciate knowing that they are not getting a text back within five minutes or maybe five hours from a non-texter who doesn’t even keep their cell phone nearby. And that a night owl, like me, is probably not even awake at 10:30. Do as you like with that information. 👍
If I have recently just met a woman, I don't ask for an evening date. I prefer a lunch date. FOR THEM. Meeting a strange man is henke enough for many mature women, I prefer to make it easier for them to say yes, daytime to ease the anxiety some and offer to meet them there, rather than insist on picking them up (I do offer though). I don't drink but don't mind if she drinks responsibly, so I choose a place that serves for lunch. I try to set the date for 1pm so if she wants a drink (before or after), it's not a problem. Your admonition to be judicious in your drinking is spot on. I think 2 hours is about right. Leaving the date when it's going well is much preferred. I like the sitting next to each other vs opposed also. Specifically to establish modest "touch" sometime during the date. If the 1st date goes well, I want to hold her hand on the way out. Braking the touch barrier before hand, makes it feel more natural. Men are cautioned to listen more than talk also. I think what you really should do is work toward an engaging conversation and not keep close track, but do a mental check occasionally to make sure you aren't dominating the conversation. If I'm filtering, I need her to talk. It's always error for man or woman to "ramble on" on a 1st date. (see alcohol admonition). I avoid interview questions and just start a conversation. Generating a smile or chuckle occasionally during the interchange helps take away the anxiety also.
@@CoffeewithCarey If I inferred I demand it, you got the wrong idea. I do it as sort of making it easier for her to say yes. For you, a twilight dinner cruise on Lake Tahoe. Hmm,... something in between for 1st date maybe? Chili's anyway? Seriously, don't mean to mess with you, but I'm adventurous, not remotely locked into lunch but it is generally easier to sell for first date. I don't do Online dating so cold approach or possibly circumstantial meetings, it's a small thing to maybe help get the yes. You didn't say why you "don't do lunch" and I don't want to ask, but you aren't vampire are you?
@@x-man5056 intermittent fasting. I don’t eat until three or 4 PM. And I think afternoon dates are the antithesis to Romance. Women should know how to get themselves to, and protect themselves on a public date that starts at 7 PM! Unless you’re taking them to some swanky back Alley, Lady and the tramp style. Lol.
In my early 40s. I found this very helpful, clear and common sense. I tend to spend most the first date or two trying to listen more. In the past I have over shared and gotten too emotionally invested too soon. Now I intentionally pay more attention to reading btwn the lines and whether they ask me questions about myself or seem very curious about me (big tell if they are emotionally available). I do try to be playful and keep it light though. But no physical contact (except maybe touching on the arm, hug) on first date or so. My focus is whether this person is compatibility and do I actually like them as a person, a friend. Definitely no sex as long as possible, ideally a couple months, and not until we are exclusively committed, there’s a strong level of trust. On occasion that’s been slightly challenging if there’s a lot of chemistry;) but inevitably I tend to be drawn to brooding types so I make sure to exercise self control ❤ equals self respect and better opportunities for the real deal.
I think a lot of men were told that guys sit side-by-side, but for more intimacy, men and women always sit facing each other. But sitting caddy-corner makes more sense because you are actually a bit closer to the other person, without it being intimidating due to too much facing each other directly.
Very informative, I love your suggestions, going to be 71 next month, physically fit and active. Have subscribed and will be a big fan of your UTube videos in future, thanks 😊
@@CoffeewithCarey Hi Carey, it has been said to me twice. While I didn’t insist on the rule, I did say I’d like to get to know a person a little better first. Women presume we will have several dates with that person within 30 days but men don’t.
Yeah, yeah, stay home…that makes it more of a target rich environment for us 🤣 No way man! Maybe try to double date; that’ll dilute the intensity of it being a date and no one “loses”, but really, I have to say, if dating was a paid profession, I’d love my job.
Well they might be an explanation for that. If someone has an average to high sex drive then there is a potential incompatibility and mismatch in that area. with someone who shows no intimacy(not even talking about sex here) or desire for sex. Sex is not the most important thing but typically both men and women have the right to expect intimacy including sex. Nobody “deserves sex” but if their partner has an apathy or no desire shortly after marriage then I find that problematic and grounds for divorce or annulment, about it and refuse to do anything about it is setting themselves up divorce. So getting married is not the terminal goal it’s a beginning commitment to meeting the needs of the opposite party to the best of your ability, you should be sure that you can commit to that before getting married not ignore your partners need who feels trapped by societal expectations or financial or legal enablement’s affecting their personal lives. And what about someone essentially asexual misleading their partner with the carrot of intimacy until they get that piece of paper who has no intention of meeting their partners needs- The colloquial term is a “Dead Bedroom” and folks its real. Someone who is essentially asexual as a choice it would be cruel to insist on marriage before touching some or allowing someone to touch you. I understand that there may be physical emparements that may sex difficult or impossible but that should be discussed in an adult manner. Paying 10s of thousands of dollars shouldn’t be necessary but that is the cost someone may have to pay!
@@omniustradingsystems1157 I don’t think this tangent had anything to do with her story, which was about somebody pressuring her early in the dating process to become physical. 🤷🏻♀️
Thanks for your advice Carey! I'm in my 40s and will date a woman in her mid 50s next week, so I thought why not watch some of your videos ;) Hope my date goes well, we had good chemistry over the phone.
I see this is an older video but I have to say, I love your stand and advice! I am shocked at the number of women who put up with behavior they don't like! Thank you! 😊
Carey, you have a new follower in me!👍 I like your honest, unique approach to doing these videos versus that of most all female dating coaches. The seating arrangement you discussed is awesome, I had never thought of that. Yet you are correct, one can more discreetly show these small signs of affection. Not to mention, not every one can reach across the table for this.🤣
And too many dates have people screaming at each other from across the table in a venue that is louder than expected. I hope you don’t mind my asking but always looking for ways to improve my communication. What is it that you find you are not connecting with the other female dating coaches that is making you feel I am speaking your language? Just my very straightforward, common sense vibe or something else?
@@CoffeewithCarey I don't know about Charles above, but I'll answer why I like your video. You got straight into the topic without 10 minutes of wandering, you spoke about practical situations, you don't assume one type of relationship is what everyone wants, and you are still answering people directly a long time after a video is put out. Great job Carey! My situation is very unusual and yet you spoke to concerns that I would have as well. Thanks!
@@CoffeewithCarey Age makes hearing spoken words harder to discern in and environment with significant din in the background. You my have great hearing until there is background noise, it is an annoyance for many of us. So avoid louder places for fist date.
@@x-man5056 I certainly wouldn’t go back to a place where I felt it’s very loud and echoey. Finding places that are comfortable to you, and knowing where you will go back when you have the next opportunity is important. If hearing is a problem in more places than not I would make an appointment for a hearing test. ♥️👍
@@CoffeewithCarey she lives in a city about 330 km away from me and we met on Facebook. So to see her, I drove all the way to her city the day before, put up in a hotel and met her later that night for dinner. As I had to return home the following day, we wanted to spend as much time with one another in a single night. Every second counted....
@@brandenburg2388 So how is this long-distance relationship going to work out? Is that what you were looking for? Honestly, I’m just happy it wasn’t a scam; most people i speak to who met someone on Facebook have ended up losing money. 🤎👍
@@CoffeewithCarey it's amazing that this lady matches almost all my requirements and vice-versa. She is single, no kids, same faith/education level/language, living with her aged mother and retired (both of us are in our mid-50s). Her mom is her only family member still living with her in this country. Despite being limited to chatting everyday on Whatsapp, our relationship has become closer since we first met on FB over a month ago. I have engaged a professional matchmaker agency to look for a partner but so far the 2 ladies they introduced to me did not generate as much positive vibes as this lady.
@@brandenburg2388 well that’s lovely. good luck with getting to know her even better. ps. if you’ve worked with a matchmaker and not had great luck, make sure that you keep watch here for something i’m excited really excited about! 🤫
Carey, you talked about "rules" and "boundaries". Personally, I would rather use the word "guidelines". There is little else that would put me off more, than having someone telling me (however nicely) about their "rules", even if they don't actually convey that word. Your 30 day rule, for example. Well, if you're both up for it, then go ahead and share that bed! If one of the 2 people would rather wait, well that's ok too. Relax! It is quite possible, in fact, to miss out on wonderful experiences by being be rigid with "rules".
I am 63 , and SO WISH that I saw this video 13 years ago ! SPOT ON ! It wasn’t “ slanted “ against men or pro - any gender . Very well worded and concise . Peace ☮️
If a guys too touchy the first date he “wants some”.... I’d never be that pushy / touchy as a man on the first date. It’s disrespectful to a lady I think. Same works the other way.
Any suggestions for a man 80 years old, with mobility problems, using a walker and a cane. One woman said I am not going to look after an invalid . I have it on my dating site that I am mobility comprised. They agree to a first meeting and maybe one more,then rejection. Also ,unfortunately very few women on dating sites over 70 years old. Any helpful suggestions appreciated.
Hi Russell, nice to meet you here. I would suggest meeting women in person. If they see you mobile and accept a date then you know you have something worth pursuing. Maybe the women you are meeting with just photographs aren’t actually picturing the challenge it would be getting around with you. You keep on trucking my friend, But I think you should maybe take a class of some kind: current events or music/movie appreciation. Check your park district and local community college maybe?
These are good rules for people of any age. I'm a big fan of the luncheon first date, in a very cheerful, yet public place. As for sex, I think 3rd or 4th date would be the earliest and that probably would take about a month to get to, so yeah. Thirty-day trial sounds good.
Nice thought when you are 25, but at this age he is looking to see what he will get in the future. He likely got little sex from his ex, and with your sex drive in the basement post-menopause, he is not going to put his neck in the noose unless he is assured of getting it.
I'm drained just listening to “The Rules." The more complicated a date becomes no one is in the moment. If two grown adults haven't figured out what a good match is you may be better off single.
I think many first dates could be wasted if waiting until that date to find out what each other are looking for. Should know that before the first date, I think. And sitting across is much better, I think.
Carey is addressing women here. I cannot imagine that any man would think in such a rigid and detailed way about anything, let alone dating. Just do what is comfortable for both of you.
If a woman I know and like gives me a call to do something either right now or tomorrow, I will likely accept, providing I don't have better plans. I'f be foolish not to.
Don't be a Debbie Downer. Keep the conversation light and positive. First dates are not the time to worry about society's problems. Be a social justice warrior another time.
yup! if there are going to be social issues that are a dealbreaker, you should know about these ahead of time and definitely before traveling across town - just to pick a fight
My 6 tips for dating 1 take a good bath and use deoderant 2 brush your teeth if you have some, if not use mouth wash 3 don't get into somebody's bubble 4 listen Very carefully to what is being said 5 Do not hop in the Sack until they have a SDT test and until you get married 6 go into this relationship with your brain ingaged and Both Eyes Wide Open and if you get married keep your eyes Half Shut.
@@georgeedward1226 Hahaha ya that's true but if you see the amount of failed relationships of all kinds it may be as you said they have bigger problems.
If you feel raw attraction you will know and 30 days will lose you the high value male, you have more competition than you believe and are not special.
Nice thought when you are 25, but at this age he is looking to see what he will get in the future. He likely got little sex from his ex, and with your sex drive in the basement post-menopause, he is not going to put his neck in the noose unless he is assured of getting it.
I feel it is important to create a very full life for yourself without a partner first. Filled with joy, hope, loved ones, friends and good times. Then you will be the attractive partner women hope to find.
I consider all of my followers and subscribers friends and we keep in touch, share and interact regularly here in my comment section. You can also reach me on my coffeewithcarey G Instagram.
“Rules” sound too confining; I’d prefer a title of “Guiding Principles”, e.g., “hang on loosely, but don’t let go”. You never know…lightening could strike. It did for me when I thought I would just date for a “friends w/be benefits” mode, but I met my unicorn, and it’s been over a monthlong blissful relationship w/o sex even thought we’ve slept together. She’s the one, and I’ll do or not do anything that could wreck it.
@@CoffeewithCarey I'm different to most other guys you would know. Been openly polyamorous for years (and ethically married long term) I'm not new to dating, and generally look for a relationship. I don't keep stats, but I would say many women love to meet in a garden centre cafe on a pleasant afternoon. Wouldn't you? 🙂
@@davebroad642 Sure! Who doesn’t love coffee!! But more importantly in this context they are looking for a partner in love, and coffee dates are not conducive to creating romantic relationships! 🤷🏻♀️
coffee date is the way to start off a first date....Then you can see if you both want a second date. No need to spend multiple hours or money on a first date with a stranger.
For me first date should always be for a coffee or a cup of tea. If you've both got share a great interest that is excellent. If you're doing proactive listening and your date's doing the same that's great and it builds from there. For me the 60/40 rule would be awkward and you could end up saying less and forget something crucial you wanted to tell her! For me this were church is important you can start off by watching a person, you'll spot their jnterests and if you share them. .Both of you are in a safe environment and you can learn a lot about each other and it builds from there, plus you have a lot more to work with.
How do I get a date with you? I’m not interested in really anything except hanging around in Vegas. I have a home big and it needs somebody in it. Nothing in return.
I always sit at a 120 degree angle toward my date. Women always call me obtuse. My friend who sits at a 45 degree angle toward his dates? The women say he is a cute date.
First RULE for BLOKES .. GET A DOG ...less yapping and the dog doesn't care what your sins are and won't walk off with half your house ..just feed the dog.. . nature finished with you after 50 .. and I'm 68 . I don't think I've ever been on a date ...absolutely true...cross my heart
@@CoffeewithCarey but i was married for 30 years ... didn't do dates in my day .. we just hung around with each other .. dates were things found on calendars ..or in packets ..it was too American for us
I never make rules for dating... take each step like I was still young...I date a lot now after a long marriage ended. Though I find women now are getting way too opinionated. I'm a handsome cardiologist so I can be very picky.. Younger girls tend not to be that way they just are out for fun......all the serious stuff comes later I believe. You wnt to show people that you are open minded and receptive to different ideas and views.
If that’s your thought (and your decision) for yourself, that’s perfectly fantastic! That doesn’t mean you should be telling anybody else what is right for them, though, correct? 🤎
@@CoffeewithCarey Correct. It is not my place to judge or to tell others what to do. Just offering an alternative (maybe radical to some!) direction based on biblical principles.
I find this video really refreshing because if you look at the whole gamut of 'dating advice' or 'stoic philosophy' or 'self-improvement' videos on You Tube, the majority tend to offer pick-up artist advice, or are about one gender's rants against the other, and they ALL offer click-bait titles (ieg, "Men - Do this ONE thing and 99% of all Women will CHASE YOU"). And they are ALL geared towards the younger generations, people in their 20's and 30's.
Glad you found your home! ;-) No pick up artists around here. 😀 Also the rules are we don’t speak in generalities. Everyone is welcome to give their opinion. We just don’t speak on behalf of our entire genders. Glad you enjoyed the video and I’ll look forward to your comments on future episodes! 🤎
A first date should be somewhere quick and cheap like a coffee and donut shop, certainly not an expensive meal at a posh restaurant. Within less than an hour you should be able to work out if a second date is on the cards. If you have at least one interest or hobby in common, have similar values and plans for the future and there are no dealbreakers have date number two. Even if they are not your usual type or you don't find them sexually attractive that can change so have a second date where you are both doing something you like.
Nooooo. Your first date should never be a coffee date!! You might want to check out my episode about why coffee dates are keeping you single. I hate them!
I love how she just assumes a first date is going to consist of two people sitting down at a table or bar. Where's the imagination? Hiking, anyone? Bowling? (She's in Chicago, after all!) Square or contra dancing? Bike ride, or horseback riding? (Well, that last one is a little more eclectic.)
@@CoffeewithCarey I haven't, Carey, this was my first. And from what I just heard, it absolutely came across to this viewer that you assume that _very_ thing.
Now on first dates I met her my first time at singles group square dance my asking her then she asked me our first real date I say it depends on who does it should not matter age difference well yes no years different. Mucho yes interest likes dislikes yes or distance miles depends fifty maybe myself Remember you can not always have everything ideal to you liking wants desires
There should always be an honest conversation on the phone before you go on a date. If a woman tells you “I can fit you in 6 weeks from now” she’s just looking for another sucker to take her to dinner. If you’re divorced, ask her on the phone call how she feels about dating a divorced man, that way you’ll avoid someone looking at you like you’re a serial killer (ask me how I know). Also, while on the phone, ask the woman if she is married; you would be surprised how many women on dating apps are bored housewives. Now that I think about it, dating is a complete waste of time, energy and money. Embrace a hobby or activity that you enjoy, that way you won’t have to suffer through sleepless nights worrying about getting played for a fool, losing half your life’s savings, paying alimony until your dead, and unknowingly and unintentionally disinheriting your kids. Peace out.
It all has to do with ...how much the man or the woman want a relation in the first place if it is just wanting it on the side between business hours or other ( important) stuff ...forget it 😅😅😅😅
Guys, play hard to get; do not touch her for the first date OR second date. ask her open-ended questions "do you have a preference about????" 3rd date (first date was the first meeting, so it doesn't count) absolutely know what her favorite color is - bring flowers in a modest arrangement in her favorite color(s)- nothing cheap or expensive. Get it from a REAL FLOWER SHOP. Not the grocery store thingey. 90 day rule - remember EVERYTHING she writes or speaks - if you catch her in a lie - FLEE. (yes, men lie too so same advice). Read a chapter together of Proverbs or Psalms after both agree to the "rules' (on the 3rd or 4th date). And , yes these tactics drive good women nuts. That's the point
@@CoffeewithCarey That's right; the current gen of unattached women (of the past 25 years) are largely self destructive and dysfunctional....or of low value. A self-aware, disciplined, high-value, virtuous woman stands far above the 90 day rule. Men, learn, live and practice Psalms Chapter 1 24/7. Makes a huge difference with the weaker vessel (I Peter 3:7) . Men honor their woman ; women respect their man. 24/7 (Ephesians 5:1-21)
@@CoffeewithCarey Lastly, as a general rule avoid(at all costs) the toxic American culture -- it has been ridiculed for decades. Living overseas in SA (Bogota, Colombia) or CR (Costa Rica central valley suburbs of San Jose) for a few years can confirm the discipline, value and awareness of which I speak. The interpersonal skills common in those cultures are in sharp contrast to the 'toxic culture' pervasive in large urban areas in the USA of the past decade or more. Gratitude, consideration of others, modesty are de rigueur in cultures of Europe, SA and CR for the most part. In CR, yelling, profanity, nudity, violence just r not going to be seen most anywhere in the suburbs of San Jose [yes culture is breaking down almost everywhere lately]. Modesty, calm, respectful attitudes r pervasive and enforced. Luv it! Any Gary Smalley (r.i.p) books are required reading! :)
I don't agree with any of these rules for my particular situation. This video seems to be aimed at people who don't know each other well at all. I suppose most first dates are like that, but I am completely over dating complete strangers. I wonder if you have advice for people who have known each other for years and are beginning to become more social with each other. Maybe TH-cam is the wrong place to look for answers.
@@CoffeewithCarey, This lady I have known for over 10 years has gotten a divorce last year. She asked me out to lunch. We had lunch and excellent conversation. I gave her a potted mum. It was really nice. My concern is that I am in uncharted territory. I was her landscaper. We always got along well and talked. Now she is giving me hugs and inviting me for purely social purposes. We are both about 50 now. She is in a higher income range than me. Any advice? I do really enjoy being around her. I don't want to move in or have sex soon or even talk about it yet. I was just looking for advice on how to properly treat a lady.
You treat her with respect, the same way you would want to be treated or you would want somebody to treat your sister or mother, you take things very slowly, and you communicate honestly. And don’t forget to share with her that you are really enjoying her company and getting to know her.
Whatever floats your boat, I say. And you’re the one watching Rules for a First Date”. Were you hoping I was going to agree with you and that would be my video? Thanks for being here today…One rule folks...Don’t. Just don’t. Thanks for stopping by. I actually do have a video like that. I think it’s my diet tips or secret skin care advice
I just ran across this on my recommendation page . Your advice seems reasonable but from my point of view with everything going on now as a male even flirting now is dangerous
“Women go after what they want”. I would say that is 100% accurate. Men go after what they want. obviously. Why would anyone go after what they do NOT want? 🤷🏻♀️
Who cares what my husband thought? Probably much more pertinent as to what the thousands of people I have matched and coached, in the last decade have thought!
@@CoffeewithCarey yeah, well, there are no dates on the horizon, so i'll come back to this advice when needed. could always take a hike on my 15 acres of woods.
@@CoffeewithCarey its been a thing my whole life. Sincere? Do I have an incentive to make this up? How about keep your hands to yourself without permission?
@@CoffeewithCarey I also wanted to ask that. I would hate it if someone try to touch me on a first date (unless some out of ordinary chemistry goes in the air :)hahaha )
@@honeybadger6313 that’s a pretty sweeping generalization you’re making there, buddy. there are selfish people of all genders. maybe try meeting MORE women! 🤦🏻♀️
Um..Maybe not. Don't go to bars. Who do you meet when you go to bars? People who go to bars. First date; go to a museum on a sunday morning. Now you know your dates interests Then go for coffee; not Starbucks but someplace that brews good coffee.. If things go well, offer brunch. Oh. I didn't mention that I am a 75 year old white male who last married a widowed, very accomplished professional woman 2 years junior. We set terms and made bargains. We lived apart but spent nights together for two years before "settling terms" of the marriage. Think long;work hard; bee incredibly patient and be prepared to share all of the inevitable issues of aging. best wishes
Sometimes you meet people who work at the bar, or stop at the bar after work, sell to the bar, or are artists performing at the bar/club/lounge/pub. So go to bars if you want to! I met a husband -and some really great people while in bars. And I don’t drink. I’m glad you found what works for you, but am reminding you that you are not everyone. 🤎👍
It’s a shame that God gets ignored in the whole scheme of things. Praying to God should be the first protocol to even know if you are called to be in a relationship and then striving to keep holy either way. What does it matter to gain the whole world and lose your soul?
Thanks for sharing your opinion. But obviously there are many of us who would never be praying for “keeping holy”. We’re just living our lives and trying to be good to actual people.
I disagree!! Not everyone is religious so don’t push that!! I’d walk out if you brought up God to me!! It’s a very personal thing and not to be pushed on someone else!!
Not everyone is religious !!! That's offensive to some people. Start talking religion to me and it's 'I got to go' for me. Like you want religion to be a thing, other people equally don't. Respect everyone's choice, everyone's different.
Taking dating advice from a divorced feminist will produce the results you’d expect. Modern American women expect the world without bringing ANYTHING to the table. The man is the prize.
I’m so sorry! Did you stumble in here accidentally? You’re at the wrong TH-cam channel. 🤦🏻♀️ No worries. There is the door! 🚪 Take good care and good luck… 👋
I never went to college tho my senorita amigo did most of as I repeat was learned from school k to grade 12then ten weeks of photo schoolsome I learned just waking up each day doing things without trying to learn all slow easy seeing things reading trying things just being with amigos using I pad nursing home activities games in my travels I donot have bad attitudes well some do are nasty volks repeat using I pad what I have seen learned about life who wears what see fashions love relations dating wants failures automobiles plus plenty mucho more even ways to need mucho less dinero enjoy life more health care excercise videos some learned without trying enjoy your day adios
Also am I the only one that thinks you should have sex kinda soon? Because what if you don’t match sexually? I just had this happen to me, waited too long to have sex and the sex was absolutely terrible so I had to let her go based on that.
That’s unfortunate. But there are no rules. That depends on two people and when they are both ready. It’s not waiting too long if that’s when one of the people was ready. Also, like first dates when people are not always their best and nerves can affect how they come across, it’s not always great the first time…
30 days is ridiculous, what do you know about someone in 30 days, people can hide who they are for 6 months, any guy that was willing to commit to being exclusive after 30 days is not someone I would be interested, way too desperate for me. You have no idea where this guys bits have been. No thanks.
I agree with all these rules. I'd only add that I don't meet anyone in bars as I'm over 20 years sober and much prefer my life now. And the 30-day rule? Absolutely, especially for the many of us with childhood traumas including neglect, various forms of abuse, drug addiction, etc. Fast sex usually leaves us bonding too fast, or running away too fast.
different attachment styles attach it to different speeds. and just a note that drinking alcohol is not required just because a bar is available. Some people who are sober cert much enjoy the ambience and vibe for romance in a lounge/ club.
I realize the alcohol is an option; but most people choose that option, and most people don't stop at one. Two or more, and the quality of conversation circles the drain. I don't avoid bars because I'd be tempted to drink; I avoid excruciating boredom from the quality of "connection."@@CoffeewithCarey
Thank you for making a thoughtful video on dating. If I'm lucky enough to find a date, the advice in this video will be of great value.
I’m so glad you found it helpful, Roger. And I have faith that if you are interested in dating, you will find someone worth getting to know!
Two hour date limit is good idea. That way, with proper timing, there’s still time to catch the fourth quarter.
Leave em wanting more!
There’s a game on Thursday nights at 9 PM?
@@CoffeewithCarey, during the NFL season there is. Seriously the two hour rule is a good idea
Big help thanks, this Friday is first date in 50 years, if question pops up and it easily could I'm just getting back in the dating pool- testing the waters will sound a whole lot better than I haven't dated since high school
“Testing the waters” sounds like you’re looking for something very very casual and if that’s the case all good. but if you are looking for a relationship leave out the “testing” part.
Great suggestions and thoughts. Thank you, W.
Thank YOU! 🤎👍
Just a suggestion ... for the women. I went on a first date yesterday, lunch with a very nice lady. However, this went just like most of my previous first dates ... I had to carry the conversation from start to finish. Fortunately, I'm innately curious so asking a variety of open-ended questions comes pretty easily. Some serious, some funny, anything but the "interview" mode. It always seems to be that way. I get it. Women need to be careful and discreet. But damn, ladies, I know you're looking for that magical "chemistry" ... but does it always have to be the guy to be the alchemist and apothecary?
if you’re seeing a pattern to your dating life that is sometimes a sign that it’s something you’re doing. do you know what it is? If not, you might want to think about working with a dating coach. That’s what we do.
We're not all like that, hon. Good luck to you.
It's not you fella, it's just women's psychology, you're clearly far higher value than you recognise.
@@MrFrobbo Higher value? 🤮
We’re talking about humans dating and relating here. We don’t talk about human connection in the context of someone’s ‘value’. Please don’t bring that language or mentality from the sad corners day of the Internet over to my channel. Thanks! 👍
@@CoffeewithCarey we should live in the real world, everyone has market value, dating is a competition, those who dont compete will never find a partner and its cats and wine, or gaming consoles for them. Dont be delusional, understand evolutionary biology to succeed
Yep, 30 days minimum. I've learned that things that feel too familiar and move too fast are a warning sign. Mama said, You can't hurry love.
It’s a game of give-and-take!
@@deborahdawn8192 Ladies beware of a whirlwind romance as the guy may well be a conman showering you with gifts and attention before becoming a control freak later on once you've succumbed to his charm ?
I thought these tips were excellent, especially about sitting adjacent to a date instead of across the table -- makes a big difference as to whether you can casually touch their hand when making a point in conversation.
Exacatactly! ;)
If a woman said to me that I need to call her for a second date because she doesn’t reply to texts, and that she doesn’t want to leave the house before 10am so when I plan our second date it must be lunch or dinner…. there would be no second date.
Don’t be imposing rules on a 50+ year old man after one date, believe me he will not take well to that
I think it’s more about how one
states these things. Really she just shared with you her preferred communication style (not texting) and that she is not a morning person. But most would not state them as RULES.
So did she really say that you “need to” or “must”?
Many people appreciate knowing that they are not getting a text back within five minutes or maybe five hours from a non-texter who doesn’t even keep their cell phone nearby. And that a night owl, like me, is probably not even awake at 10:30.
Do as you like with that information. 👍
@@CoffeewithCarey she didn't him for a date... he asked her ... if she rejects he moves on ...simple
real men won't be mucked around .. its like a job interview .. are you available to start ? No? NEXT
Agreed....I prefer texting to phone calls. Much less intrusive. Less personal, but more convenient. Time must be respected.
@@9999deoxys is this a case of tell me you’re a millennial without telling me you’re a millennial? ;-)
I never thought about the seating thing. Great idea!
You’re welcome, Tim. ;)
We have the Covid situation though.. How can you be near without being too near 😷?
If I have recently just met a woman, I don't ask for an evening date. I prefer a lunch date. FOR THEM. Meeting a strange man is henke enough for many mature women, I prefer to make it easier for them to say yes, daytime to ease the anxiety some and offer to meet them there, rather than insist on picking them up (I do offer though). I don't drink but don't mind if she drinks responsibly, so I choose a place that serves for lunch. I try to set the date for 1pm so if she wants a drink (before or after), it's not a problem. Your admonition to be judicious in your drinking is spot on.
I think 2 hours is about right. Leaving the date when it's going well is much preferred. I like the sitting next to each other vs opposed also. Specifically to establish modest "touch" sometime during the date. If the 1st date goes well, I want to hold her hand on the way out. Braking the touch barrier before hand, makes it feel more natural.
Men are cautioned to listen more than talk also. I think what you really should do is work toward an engaging conversation and not keep close track, but do a mental check occasionally to make sure you aren't dominating the conversation. If I'm filtering, I need her to talk. It's always error for man or woman to "ramble on" on a 1st date. (see alcohol admonition).
I avoid interview questions and just start a conversation. Generating a smile or chuckle occasionally during the interchange helps take away the anxiety also.
Seems like you’ve got a plan. I would not meet for a lunch date if someone asked because I don’t do lunch. But it seems to be working for you.
@@CoffeewithCarey If I inferred I demand it, you got the wrong idea. I do it as sort of making it easier for her to say yes.
For you, a twilight dinner cruise on Lake Tahoe. Hmm,... something in between for 1st date maybe? Chili's anyway?
Seriously, don't mean to mess with you, but I'm adventurous, not remotely locked into lunch but it is generally easier to sell for first date. I don't do Online dating so cold approach or possibly circumstantial meetings, it's a small thing to maybe help get the yes.
You didn't say why you "don't do lunch" and I don't want to ask, but you aren't vampire are you?
@@x-man5056 intermittent fasting. I don’t eat until three or 4 PM.
And I think afternoon dates are the antithesis to Romance. Women should know how to get themselves to, and protect themselves on a public date that starts at 7 PM! Unless you’re taking them to some swanky back Alley, Lady and the tramp style. Lol.
@@x-man5056😂
In my early 40s. I found this very helpful, clear and common sense.
I tend to spend most the first date or two trying to listen more. In the past I have over shared and gotten too emotionally invested too soon. Now I intentionally pay more attention to reading btwn the lines and whether they ask me questions about myself or seem very curious about me (big tell if they are emotionally available). I do try to be playful and keep it light though. But no physical contact (except maybe touching on the arm, hug) on first date or so. My focus is whether this person is compatibility and do I actually like them as a person, a friend. Definitely no sex as long as possible, ideally a couple months, and not until we are exclusively committed, there’s a strong level of trust. On occasion that’s been slightly challenging if there’s a lot of chemistry;) but inevitably I tend to be drawn to brooding types so I make sure to exercise self control ❤ equals self respect and better opportunities for the real deal.
This is pretty impressive! You seem to have learned a lot about yourself and what you want and need. Good for you! 🤎
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I try to always sit at a 90 degree angle on a date. It's perfect!
I try to do this at all times, Donna, but I fail 70% of the time. 😏
This is such good advice. Had never thought of it.
I think a lot of men were told that guys sit side-by-side, but for more intimacy, men and women always sit facing each other. But sitting caddy-corner makes more sense because you are actually a bit closer to the other person, without it being intimidating due to too much facing each other directly.
@@donnahampton3632 That's a great idea less confrontational more cooperative!
Very informative, I love your suggestions, going to be 71 next month, physically fit and active. Have subscribed and will be a big fan of your UTube videos in future, thanks 😊
Thanks for saying hello. So glad you found the channel. Welcome! 💖👍
No sex for thirty days and the guy says, “Great, I’ll call you in thirty days.”
Oh Anne, Lol do be sure to let us know where you’ll be doing your next stand up performance! ;-)
@@CoffeewithCarey Hi Carey, it has been said to me twice. While I didn’t insist on the rule, I did say I’d like to get to know a person a little better first. Women presume we will have several dates with that person within 30 days but men don’t.
Anybody can ask for what they want. But it takes two to tango as they say and if he’s gone before you’re ready well good riddance.
Waiting 30 days for it is called dating, waiting 90 days is called marriage☺️.
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Rule #1: DONT DO IT…stay home and find something else to do. Being alone is OK, you’ll probably be better off.
glad you have found what works for you, Glenn. But we can’t be telling other people what is right for them. To each their own.
Yeah, yeah, stay home…that makes it more of a target rich environment for us 🤣
No way man! Maybe try to double date; that’ll dilute the intensity of it being a date and no one “loses”, but really, I have to say, if dating was a paid profession, I’d love my job.
some people want to be alone. I want a spouse I'm a woman who wants to spend my life with another
Wierd sitting arrangement idea. I'd hate it. Across the table is easiest. No cracked necks.
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Excellent rules and suggestions 👍
Thanks, Patti!
She mistakenly said two drink minimum when she should’ve said two drink maximum
all the time.
No, she's right! 😂
Well, interpret it this way - never have just one drink when you are allowed to have two!!!! 😆
I have a souvenir beer stein from Munich that holds 6 liters. Is that one drink, or....?
Ive been told im not s full fledged adult when i said i didnt want to get intimate. He was very critical and tried to belittle my standards
Well, thankfully you avoided one very manipulative human in the dating world. Good for you on knowing your boundaries! 🤎
Horny guys have had lines like that from the beginning of time. A gentleman not only waits until you are comfortable he won't even talk about it.
Well they might be an explanation for that. If someone has an average to high sex drive then there is a potential incompatibility and mismatch in that area. with someone who shows no intimacy(not even talking about sex here) or desire for sex. Sex is not the most important thing but typically both men and women have the right to expect intimacy including sex. Nobody “deserves sex” but if their partner has an apathy or no desire shortly after marriage then I find that problematic and grounds for divorce or annulment, about it and refuse to do anything about it is setting themselves up divorce. So getting married is not the terminal goal it’s a beginning commitment to meeting the needs of the opposite party to the best of your ability, you should be sure that you can commit to that before getting married not ignore your partners need who feels trapped by societal expectations or financial or legal enablement’s affecting their personal lives. And what about someone essentially asexual misleading their partner with the carrot of intimacy until they get that piece of paper who has no intention of meeting their partners needs- The colloquial term is a “Dead Bedroom” and folks its real. Someone who is essentially asexual as a choice it would be cruel to insist on marriage before touching some or allowing someone to touch you. I understand that there may be physical emparements that may sex difficult or impossible but that should be discussed in an adult manner. Paying 10s of thousands of dollars shouldn’t be necessary but that is the cost someone may have to pay!
@@omniustradingsystems1157 I don’t think this tangent had anything to do with her story, which was about somebody pressuring her early in the dating process to become physical. 🤷🏻♀️
It’s time to end the date at that point.
I agree with these rules. Thank you for your video.
You are so welcome!
Thanks for your advice Carey! I'm in my 40s and will date a woman in her mid 50s next week, so I thought why not watch some of your videos ;) Hope my date goes well, we had good chemistry over the phone.
Fingers crossed! Also, a quick reminder… If you are on the fence about chemistry after that, first date… Then you go on a second date!
@@CoffeewithCarey Thanks for your feedback Carey!
You should be dating women 5 to 10 years younger, make that change
@@MrFrobbo The date didn't go well anyway;) Now I'm dating a woman a little younger.
@@MrFrobbo agreed
I see this is an older video but I have to say, I love your stand and advice! I am shocked at the number of women who put up with behavior they don't like! Thank you! 😊
Humans do crazy things. Hope you subscribe so you can check out some of the newer episodes, Adriana! 🤎
Your over 50 and still worrying about rules. The #1 Rule should be to just enjoy yourself and forget about trying to meet other people's expectations.
Who said anybody was worrying?
Carey, you have a new follower in me!👍
I like your honest, unique approach to doing these videos versus that of most all female dating coaches. The seating arrangement you discussed is awesome, I had never thought of that. Yet you are correct, one can more discreetly show these small signs of affection. Not to mention, not every one can reach across the table for this.🤣
And too many dates have people screaming at each other from across the table in a venue that is louder than expected.
I hope you don’t mind my asking but always looking for ways to improve my communication. What is it that you find you are not connecting with the other female dating coaches that is making you feel I am speaking your language? Just my very straightforward, common sense vibe or something else?
Yes a good idea to share a corner rather than opposites.
@@CoffeewithCarey I don't know about Charles above, but I'll answer why I like your video. You got straight into the topic without 10 minutes of wandering, you spoke about practical situations, you don't assume one type of relationship is what everyone wants, and you are still answering people directly a long time after a video is put out. Great job Carey! My situation is very unusual and yet you spoke to concerns that I would have as well. Thanks!
@@CoffeewithCarey Age makes hearing spoken words harder to discern in and environment with significant din in the background. You my have great hearing until there is background noise, it is an annoyance for many of us. So avoid louder places for fist date.
@@x-man5056 I certainly wouldn’t go back to a place where I felt it’s very loud and echoey. Finding places that are comfortable to you, and knowing where you will go back when you have the next opportunity is important. If hearing is a problem in more places than not I would make an appointment for a hearing test. ♥️👍
Oh dear, my first date actually went on for 4 hours. We spent 3 hours in the restaurant and another hour in an adjacent coffeeshop....
that works. 🤎
@@CoffeewithCarey she lives in a city about 330 km away from me and we met on Facebook. So to see her, I drove all the way to her city the day before, put up in a hotel and met her later that night for dinner. As I had to return home the following day, we wanted to spend as much time with one another in a single night. Every second counted....
@@brandenburg2388 So how is this long-distance relationship going to work out? Is that what you were looking for?
Honestly, I’m just happy it wasn’t a scam; most people i speak to who met someone on Facebook have ended up losing money. 🤎👍
@@CoffeewithCarey it's amazing that this lady matches almost all my requirements and vice-versa. She is single, no kids, same faith/education level/language, living with her aged mother and retired (both of us are in our mid-50s). Her mom is her only family member still living with her in this country. Despite being limited to chatting everyday on Whatsapp, our relationship has become closer since we first met on FB over a month ago. I have engaged a professional matchmaker agency to look for a partner but so far the 2 ladies they introduced to me did not generate as much positive vibes as this lady.
@@brandenburg2388 well that’s lovely. good luck with getting to know her even better.
ps. if you’ve worked with a matchmaker and not had great luck, make sure that you keep watch here for something i’m excited really excited about! 🤫
Carey, you talked about "rules" and "boundaries". Personally, I would rather use the word "guidelines". There is little else that would put me off more, than having someone telling me (however nicely) about their "rules", even if they don't actually convey that word. Your 30 day rule, for example. Well, if you're both up for it, then go ahead and share that bed! If one of the 2 people would rather wait, well that's ok too. Relax! It is quite possible, in fact, to miss out on wonderful experiences by being be rigid with "rules".
I am pretty sure I was clear about there being no rules.
You are hereby authorized to use the term Guidelines as you see fit, particularly in your own TH-cam videos.
I am 63 , and SO WISH that I saw this video 13 years ago !
SPOT ON ! It wasn’t
“ slanted “ against men or pro -
any gender .
Very well worded and concise .
Peace ☮️
Thank you! 🙏
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Your welcome 🙏
Sitting across the table is much better for a first date. In that case you can observe better, and he cannot be too touchy with you.
We can agree to disagree.
@@CoffeewithCarey Sure
If a guys too touchy the first date he “wants some”.... I’d never be that pushy / touchy as a man on the first date. It’s disrespectful to a lady I think. Same works the other way.
Any suggestions for a man 80 years old, with mobility problems, using a walker and a cane. One woman said I am not going to look after an invalid . I have it on my dating site that I am mobility comprised. They agree to a first meeting and maybe one more,then rejection. Also ,unfortunately very few women on dating sites over 70 years old. Any helpful suggestions appreciated.
Hi Russell, nice to meet you here. I would suggest meeting women in person. If they see you mobile and accept a date then you know you have something worth pursuing.
Maybe the women you are meeting with just photographs aren’t actually picturing the challenge it would be getting around with you. You keep on trucking my friend, But I think you should maybe take a class of some kind: current events or music/movie appreciation. Check your park district and local community college maybe?
They are checking if you have money
They just wanted a free meal….
Lots of good information
Thank you!
These are good rules for people of any age. I'm a big fan of the luncheon first date, in a very cheerful, yet public place. As for sex, I think 3rd or 4th date would be the earliest and that probably would take about a month to get to, so yeah. Thirty-day trial sounds good.
my only thought is that “cheerful” is not very sexy, so if cheerful dates don’t end up leading to something romantic, you may want to revisit that. 🤎👍
Nice thought when you are 25, but at this age he is looking to see what he will get in the future. He likely got little sex from his ex, and with your sex drive in the basement post-menopause, he is not going to put his neck in the noose unless he is assured of getting it.
These are great rules
Rules with a lowercase “r”. ;)
I'm drained just listening to “The Rules." The more complicated a date becomes no one is in the moment. If two grown adults haven't figured out what a good match is you may be better off single.
I’m glad it comes so naturally to you. For some people it does not.
I think many first dates could be wasted if waiting until that date to find out what each other are looking for. Should know that before the first date, I think. And sitting across is much better, I think.
You are allowed to think what you want. 😊👍
@@CoffeewithCarey, you are very diplomatic 😊
Carey is addressing women here. I cannot imagine that any man would think in such a rigid and detailed way about anything, let alone dating. Just do what is comfortable for both of you.
It seems from the comments that both men and women have benefited from the conversation.
I never knew the seating situation my problem is I can't find anyone that doesn't drink alcohol :(
There are more and more of us all the time, I have found. 💖👍
I’d say about 30% of the people I screen every week drink don’t drink alcohol- or rarely, just on special occasions.
I agree. I don’t drink at all and most men drink too much! A turn off to me
You're right. I see that a woman never drinks. I think she is probably judgemental and boring. Fair or not.
Great input. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
If a woman I know and like gives me a call to do something either right now or tomorrow, I will likely accept, providing I don't have better plans. I'f be foolish not to.
🤔What constitutes -and what made you feel you needed to insert the word “better” before the word “plans”?
Don't be a Debbie Downer. Keep the conversation light and positive. First dates are not the time to worry about society's problems. Be a social justice warrior another time.
yup!
if there are going to be social issues that are a dealbreaker, you should know about these ahead of time and definitely before traveling across town - just to pick a fight
Seating area is a good one
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That depends!!!
My 6 tips for dating
1 take a good bath and use deoderant
2 brush your teeth if you have some, if not use mouth wash
3 don't get into somebody's bubble
4 listen Very carefully to what is being said
5 Do not hop in the Sack until they have a SDT test and until you get married
6 go into this relationship with your brain ingaged and Both Eyes Wide Open and if you get married keep your eyes Half Shut.
I think you’re ready to create your own channel!
@@CoffeewithCarey 😘
Anyone who needs to be told to bathe and brush their teeth before a date has bigger issues to deal with.
@@georgeedward1226 Hahaha ya that's true but if you see the amount of failed relationships of all kinds it may be as you said they have bigger problems.
Love that last caveat👍. For men AND women.
Having sex too quickly is a mistake for me. If that’s what the guy is into he can move on
Everybody is entitled to their own boundaries and time table. You do what works best for you! 👍
If you feel raw attraction you will know and 30 days will lose you the high value male, you have more competition than you believe and are not special.
Nice thought when you are 25, but at this age he is looking to see what he will get in the future. He likely got little sex from his ex, and with your sex drive in the basement post-menopause, he is not going to put his neck in the noose unless he is assured of getting it.
Wow, I'm really interested in dating someone who not only thinks, but needs to remind me that I'm not special. @@MrFrobbo
@charlieb308 so specific and wrong ...
I still hope I find love again, since my wife pass away have not been able to find love again, so sad in here .
I feel it is important to create a very full life for yourself without a partner first. Filled with joy, hope, loved ones, friends and good times. Then you will be the attractive partner women hope to find.
@@CoffeewithCarey I just hope I find someone, have been down for the past 7years now.
No use hoping. Instead get out there and make sure you have a coffee date or a glass of wine with a new stranger every week!
@@CoffeewithCarey okay thanks I will, but can we be friends ? And can we talk more on a better platform. Please?
I consider all of my followers and subscribers friends and we keep in touch, share and interact regularly here in my comment section. You can also reach me on my coffeewithcarey G Instagram.
Wondering if there are also rules for a last date...🙂
be kind. 🤎👍
Ask her if she has a friend. You never know. Also try playing Mrs brown in the background. 😅lol
“Rules” sound too confining; I’d prefer a title of “Guiding Principles”, e.g., “hang on loosely, but don’t let go”. You never know…lightening could strike. It did for me when I thought I would just date for a “friends w/be benefits” mode, but I met my unicorn, and it’s been over a monthlong blissful relationship w/o sex even thought we’ve slept together. She’s the one, and I’ll do or not do anything that could wreck it.
Good song! ;)
Coffee date every time! Maybe at a garden centre cafe.
And how is that working out for you? Is coffee leading to romance 60% of the time?
@@CoffeewithCarey I'm different to most other guys you would know. Been openly polyamorous for years (and ethically married long term) I'm not new to dating, and generally look for a relationship. I don't keep stats, but I would say many women love to meet in a garden centre cafe on a pleasant afternoon. Wouldn't you? 🙂
@@davebroad642 Sure! Who doesn’t love coffee!!
But more importantly in this context they are looking for a partner in love, and coffee dates are not conducive to creating romantic relationships! 🤷🏻♀️
coffee date is the way to start off a first date....Then you can see if you both want a second date. No need to spend multiple hours or money on a first date with a stranger.
Fantastic videos and advice 👍
Glad you’re finding them interesting and/or helpful, Cathy.
@@CoffeewithCarey That Meetup I find particularly interesting
And remember if you don’t see anything that seems intriguing to you, you can always start your own!
For me first date should always be for a coffee or a cup of tea. If you've both got share a great interest that is excellent.
If you're doing proactive listening and your date's doing the same that's great and it builds from there. For me the 60/40 rule would be awkward and you could end up saying less and forget something crucial you wanted to tell her! For me this were church is important you can start off by watching a person, you'll spot their jnterests and if you share them. .Both of you are in a safe environment and you can learn a lot about each other and it builds from there, plus you have a lot more to work with.
I agree to disagree.
This is by far the worst date for myself and all my clients!
@CoffeewithCarey I accept you're right to disagree, I thought you may have been more analytical and measured in your rebuttal.
@@billmmckelvie5188 lmao
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All sensible suggestions 😊
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How do I get a date with you? I’m not interested in really anything except hanging around in Vegas. I have a home big and it needs somebody in it. Nothing in return.
I’m not available, but that doesn’t really sound like a relationship to me
Really helpful, thank you!
Thank YOU! 🤎👍
Rule #1. Avoid women at all costs.
lame
There are decent worthwhile women I found a great wife on the christian dating site Fusion101 !😂
Dates from guys these is like this ' are you available or not ?' if not "don't call me I'll call you" .. like never ..we won't be pissed around
No idea. 🤷🏻♀️
I always sit at a 120 degree angle toward my date. Women always call me obtuse. My friend who sits at a 45 degree angle toward his dates? The women say he is a cute date.
Bwahaha. And neither of you sitting at a beautiful 90° angle! 🤦🏻♀️
@@CoffeewithCareythat's right.
Cool thanks
you’re welcome, joe!
First RULE for BLOKES .. GET A DOG ...less yapping and the dog doesn't care what your sins are and won't walk off with half your house ..just feed the dog.. . nature finished with you after 50 .. and I'm 68 . I don't think I've ever been on a date ...absolutely true...cross my heart
Your comments elsewhere would have led me to guess this. 🙄Dating advice from a man who has never dated. Lol
@@CoffeewithCarey but i was married for 30 years ... didn't do dates in my day .. we just hung around with each other .. dates were things found on calendars ..or in packets ..it was too American for us
I never make rules for dating... take each step like I was still young...I date a lot now after a long marriage ended. Though I find women now are getting way too opinionated. I'm a handsome cardiologist so I can be very picky.. Younger girls tend not to be that way they just are out for fun......all the serious stuff comes later I believe. You wnt to show people that you are open minded and receptive to different ideas and views.
too opinionated, hmmm i see …
Yep, first red flag, 2nd red flag. "Cardiologist, so I can be picky" Sound like a narc.
@@evegurney8368 Your parents wished you had the drive and brains to be one. Sorry you lose your dick sizing competition pal.
"Women. Pass the beer nuts." -Norm
Norm!
Thank you
Thank you right back, Taylor! Thanks for saying hey.
Here’s a thought…how ‘bout waiting till marriage for intimacy???😮
If that’s your thought (and your decision) for yourself, that’s perfectly fantastic!
That doesn’t mean you should be telling anybody else what is right for them, though, correct? 🤎
@@CoffeewithCarey Correct. It is not my place to judge or to tell others what to do. Just offering an alternative (maybe radical to some!) direction based on biblical principles.
Amish much ?
Christian much
I find this video really refreshing because if you look at the whole gamut of 'dating advice' or 'stoic philosophy' or 'self-improvement' videos on You Tube, the majority tend to offer pick-up artist advice, or are about one gender's rants against the other, and they ALL offer click-bait titles (ieg, "Men - Do this ONE thing and 99% of all Women will CHASE YOU"). And they are ALL geared towards the younger generations, people in their 20's and 30's.
Glad you found your home! ;-) No pick up artists around here. 😀
Also the rules are we don’t speak in generalities. Everyone is welcome to give their opinion. We just don’t speak on behalf of our entire genders.
Glad you enjoyed the video and I’ll look forward to your comments on future episodes! 🤎
A first date should be somewhere quick and cheap like a coffee and donut shop, certainly
not an expensive meal at a posh restaurant. Within less than an hour you should be able to work out if a second date is on the cards. If you have at least one interest or hobby in common, have similar values and plans for the future and there are no dealbreakers have date number two. Even if they are not your usual type or you don't find them sexually attractive that can change so have a second date where you are both doing something you like.
Nooooo. Your first date should never be a coffee date!!
You might want to check out my episode about why coffee dates are keeping you single. I hate them!
Need captions please.Hearing impaired.
I added language, so hopefully TH-cam fixed that for you! 👍
I love how she just assumes a first date is going to consist of two people sitting down at a table or bar. Where's the imagination? Hiking, anyone? Bowling? (She's in Chicago, after all!) Square or contra dancing? Bike ride, or horseback riding? (Well, that last one is a little more eclectic.)
she assumes no such thing, jim. seems you haven’t watched many of my episodes. 🤷🏻♀️
@@CoffeewithCarey
I haven't, Carey, this was my first. And from what I just heard, it absolutely came across to this viewer that you assume that _very_ thing.
@@jimreadey4837 Hiking is hardly absafe option if you've never met as he could assault you in the woods or wherever ?
There is No rules Lady.
You be you
I'll be me.
sounds like somebody didn’t watch the episode.
Now on first dates I met her my first time at singles group square dance my asking her then she asked me our first real date I say it depends on who does it should not matter age difference well yes no years different. Mucho yes interest likes dislikes yes or distance miles depends fifty maybe myself Remember you can not always have everything ideal to you liking wants desires
lots of truth here. ☺️
There should always be an honest conversation on the phone before you go on a date. If a woman tells you “I can fit you in 6 weeks from now” she’s just looking for another sucker to take her to dinner. If you’re divorced, ask her on the phone call how she feels about dating a divorced man, that way you’ll avoid someone looking at you like you’re a serial killer (ask me how I know). Also, while on the phone, ask the woman if she is married; you would be surprised how many women on dating apps are bored housewives. Now that I think about it, dating is a complete waste of time, energy and money. Embrace a hobby or activity that you enjoy, that way you won’t have to suffer through sleepless nights worrying about getting played for a fool, losing half your life’s savings, paying alimony until your dead, and unknowingly and unintentionally disinheriting your kids. Peace out.
Omg. 😳
2 drink minimum or maximum
Whichever works for you. ;-) I do that all the time.
I don’t drink or smoke so ugh...
I have an episode that I think is called “dating without drinking.”
I’m like that also!! We’ll live longer!!
Rule #1: Don't make rules and lists just go with whatever the flow is.
If you’re having great dating success, then, by all means!
It all has to do with ...how much the man or the woman want a relation in the first place if it is just wanting it on the side between business hours or other ( important) stuff ...forget it 😅😅😅😅
Interesting. How would you know the difference when meeting someone?
Guys, play hard to get; do not touch her for the first date OR second date. ask her open-ended questions "do you have a preference about????" 3rd date (first date was the first meeting, so it doesn't count) absolutely know what her favorite color is - bring flowers in a modest arrangement in her favorite color(s)- nothing cheap or expensive. Get it from a REAL FLOWER SHOP. Not the grocery store thingey. 90 day rule - remember EVERYTHING she writes or speaks - if you catch her in a lie - FLEE. (yes, men lie too so same advice). Read a chapter together of Proverbs or Psalms after both agree to the "rules' (on the 3rd or 4th date). And , yes these tactics drive good women nuts. That's the point
Interesting method you have there, Stuart. So after 90 days you no longer have to remember what she says? 🤔
@@CoffeewithCarey That's right; the current gen of unattached women (of the past 25 years) are largely self destructive and dysfunctional....or of low value. A self-aware, disciplined, high-value, virtuous woman stands far above the 90 day rule. Men, learn, live and practice Psalms Chapter 1 24/7. Makes a huge difference with the weaker vessel (I Peter 3:7) . Men honor their woman ; women respect their man. 24/7 (Ephesians 5:1-21)
@@CoffeewithCarey Lastly, as a general rule avoid(at all costs) the toxic American culture -- it has been ridiculed for decades. Living overseas in SA (Bogota, Colombia) or CR (Costa Rica central valley suburbs of San Jose) for a few years can confirm the discipline, value and awareness of which I speak. The interpersonal skills common in those cultures are in sharp contrast to the 'toxic culture' pervasive in large urban areas in the USA of the past decade or more. Gratitude, consideration of others, modesty are de rigueur in cultures of Europe, SA and CR for the most part. In CR, yelling, profanity, nudity, violence just r not going to be seen most anywhere in the suburbs of San Jose [yes culture is breaking down almost everywhere lately]. Modesty, calm, respectful attitudes r pervasive and enforced. Luv it! Any Gary Smalley (r.i.p) books are required reading! :)
Love your message ❤
2 drink maximum not minimum lol
I know. I do that all the time! ☺️
I don’t drink or play games
Weren’t there six rules in this old episode? Lol.
Did you catch this episode from earlier this week?
Should You Kiss on a First Date? th-cam.com/video/hrFxDAZshzE/w-d-xo.html
I don't agree with any of these rules for my particular situation. This video seems to be aimed at people who don't know each other well at all. I suppose most first dates are like that, but I am completely over dating complete strangers.
I wonder if you have advice for people who have known each other for years and are beginning to become more social with each other. Maybe TH-cam is the wrong place to look for answers.
What’s the concern, challenge or question? Sounds like things are progressing and going well.
@@CoffeewithCarey,
This lady I have known for over 10 years has gotten a divorce last year. She asked me out to lunch. We had lunch and excellent conversation. I gave her a potted mum. It was really nice.
My concern is that I am in uncharted territory. I was her landscaper. We always got along well and talked. Now she is giving me hugs and inviting me for purely social purposes. We are both about 50 now. She is in a higher income range than me.
Any advice? I do really enjoy being around her. I don't want to move in or have sex soon or even talk about it yet. I was just looking for advice on how to properly treat a lady.
You treat her with respect, the same way you would want to be treated or you would want somebody to treat your sister or mother, you take things very slowly, and you communicate honestly. And don’t forget to share with her that you are really enjoying her company and getting to know her.
@@CoffeewithCarey,
Thank You Carey. I will do that.
@@alexanderlapp5048how did that work out?
My rules for dating just don't it's not worth it
Whatever floats your boat, I say.
And you’re the one watching Rules for a First Date”. Were you hoping I was going to agree with you and that would be my video?
Thanks for being here today…One rule folks...Don’t. Just don’t. Thanks for stopping by.
I actually do have a video like that. I think it’s my diet tips or secret skin care advice
I just ran across this on my recommendation page . Your advice seems reasonable but from my point of view with everything going on now as a male even flirting now is dangerous
I disagree. Flirting is fine; abusing a position of power is not fine.It’s really common sense, being empathetic and self aware.
@@CoffeewithCarey it has always been my policy to never date someone that you work with . As for flirting there is too much room for misinterpretation
Never be pushy, or controlling!! You’ve just met! Never think it’s ok to be touchy feely at all! Just be nice!!
Interesting. I am 70. Great shape, easy on eyes. Happy demeanor, successful. In my years. I have found that women go after what they want. Even now.
“Women go after what they want”. I would say that is 100% accurate.
Men go after what they want. obviously.
Why would anyone go after what they do NOT want? 🤷🏻♀️
You'll find out soon enough.
Are you threatening someone?
Carey, what did your husband think of these rules?
Who cares what my husband thought? Probably much more pertinent as to what the thousands of people I have matched and coached, in the last decade have thought!
no one is chasing 61 year old widowers......
date? Wendys it is!
Except 55-70 year old widows.
As much as I love a good frosty, I’m gonna recommend you take a walk somewhere beautiful instead.
@@CoffeewithCarey yeah, well, there are no dates on the horizon, so i'll come back to this advice when needed. could always take a hike on my 15 acres of woods.
Do you want to go out? Hahahaha
I think 30 days is too long a wait to find out if you're sexually compatible.
Okay. Doesn’t matter what I think or what you think. It depends on what your partner thinks.
How about over 70?
70 is the new 50, right? 😉
50 yrs olds shouls prioritize sex ASAP, life is short
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If she doesn’t kiss on the first date, there won’t be a second
Lots of women who don’t kiss on first dates, so you may be depriving yourself of somebody fantastic with that dealbreaker. 🤷🏻♀️
You are not 50.
I would love to be apart of your testing procedures. You look tasty!! 😛
Inappropriate. 😏
What makes you think it's OK to be touching someone you hardly know, without permission
Likely because that was never a thing before. If your question is sincere.
@@CoffeewithCarey its been a thing my whole life. Sincere? Do I have an incentive to make this up? How about keep your hands to yourself without permission?
I meant if you really wanted an answer to the question. I was not questioning you honesty! 💖
@@CoffeewithCarey I also wanted to ask that. I would hate it if someone try to touch me on a first date (unless some out of ordinary chemistry goes in the air :)hahaha )
First rule for a man over the age of 50. Don’t go on a date in the first place
lame
@@CoffeewithCarey nope sensible if he wants to keep a healthy bank account. Besides wom3n have ruined dating it’s all me me me me me
@@honeybadger6313 that’s a pretty sweeping generalization you’re making there, buddy. there are selfish people of all genders. maybe try meeting MORE women! 🤦🏻♀️
@honeybadger6313 I feel very sorry for you, obviously you aren't meeting the right women
Um..Maybe not. Don't go to bars. Who do you meet when you go to bars? People who go to bars. First date; go to a museum on a sunday morning. Now you know your dates interests Then go for coffee; not Starbucks but someplace that brews good coffee.. If things go well, offer brunch. Oh. I didn't mention that I am a 75 year old white male who last married a widowed, very accomplished professional woman 2 years junior. We set terms and made bargains. We lived apart but spent nights together for two years before "settling terms" of the marriage. Think long;work hard; bee incredibly patient and be prepared to share all of the inevitable issues of aging. best wishes
Sometimes you meet people who work at the bar, or stop at the bar after work, sell to the bar, or are artists performing at the bar/club/lounge/pub. So go to bars if you want to! I met a husband -and some really great people while in bars. And I don’t drink.
I’m glad you found what works for you, but am reminding you that you are not everyone. 🤎👍
I think this was a great comment, i've never met a woman in a bar and I never will, because I don't go there.
It’s a shame that God gets ignored in the whole scheme of things. Praying to God should be the first protocol to even know if you are called to be in a relationship and then striving to keep holy either way. What does it matter to gain the whole world and lose your soul?
Thanks for sharing your opinion. But obviously there are many of us who would never be praying for “keeping holy”. We’re just living our lives and trying to be good to actual people.
I disagree!! Not everyone is religious so don’t push that!! I’d walk out if you brought up God to me!! It’s a very personal thing and not to be pushed on someone else!!
I would leave right away
Same!
Not everyone is religious !!! That's offensive to some people.
Start talking religion to me and it's 'I got to go' for me.
Like you want religion to be a thing, other people equally don't.
Respect everyone's choice, everyone's different.
Taking dating advice from a divorced feminist will produce the results you’d expect. Modern American women expect the world without bringing ANYTHING to the table. The man is the prize.
You're definitely a prize. THE. BOOBY PRIZE. ! Illiterate, bitter misogynist!
Shall we raffle him off gals?
Do I hear one used tea bag ?
Why would I date someone over 50?
I’m so sorry! Did you stumble in here accidentally? You’re at the wrong TH-cam channel. 🤦🏻♀️
No worries. There is the door! 🚪
Take good care and good luck… 👋
I never went to college tho my senorita amigo did most of as I repeat was learned from school k to grade 12then ten weeks of photo schoolsome I learned just waking up each day doing things without trying to learn all slow easy seeing things reading trying things just being with amigos using I pad nursing home activities games in my travels I donot have bad attitudes well some do are nasty volks repeat using I pad what I have seen learned about life who wears what see fashions love relations dating wants failures automobiles plus plenty mucho more even ways to need mucho less dinero enjoy life more health care excercise videos some learned without trying enjoy your day adios
reading and attitude count!
It’s easy, be yourself, or you’re a fake.
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Also am I the only one that thinks you should have sex kinda soon? Because what if you don’t match sexually? I just had this happen to me, waited too long to have sex and the sex was absolutely terrible so I had to let her go based on that.
That’s unfortunate. But there are no rules. That depends on two people and when they are both ready.
It’s not waiting too long if that’s when one of the people was ready. Also, like first dates when people are not always their best and nerves can affect how they come across, it’s not always great the first time…
Not at all. If you waited but enjoyed the company, you had a good company, what is wrong with that?
2nd location is one night stand
Or the first night of a very beautiful romance that lasts forever. Never can tell…
Rule #1. Ask if she is a liberal Democrat. If yes, run like hell.
I’ll give you a Headstart…
30 days is ridiculous, what do you know about someone in 30 days, people can hide who they are for 6 months, any guy that was willing to commit to being exclusive after 30 days is not someone I would be interested, way too desperate for me. You have no idea where this guys bits have been. No thanks.
it’s not a hard and fast rule for every human. You can override it, and do you. By all means!👍
I think it was meant a 'minimum" not 'maximum' 30 days