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So would you say the fox 2.0 ifp and springs on the power wagon would give it better on road ride and better Offroad performance than the factory setup? I want to fall in love with my truck again.. Do I really need to spend the 2k for kings or 2.5 foxes?
we hear ya, the new carli carli springs and fox 2.0 is a huge positive difference over stock in the owner's (Sean) opinion, well worth it for both daily comfort and offroad performance.
Most of the DSCs for Rams are sold out on your site and can't be purchased. Is this because they are getting discontinued, or just because they are so popular? If this is what I want, how do I go about getting it?
The Factory DSC are discontinued for the 2014+ Ram 2500, there's still some on the shelf for certain sizes, but they moved those over to the Performance Elite options, which we have in stock. I guess it also depends which vehicle you have specifically. Feel free to text 213-433-3616 www.shocksurplus.com/products/fox-2-5-performance-elite-adjustable-w-reservoir-shocks-front-pair-for-2014-2022-ram-2500-4wd?variant=39902663147569 www.shocksurplus.com/products/fox-2-5-performance-elite-adjustable-w-reservoir-shocks-rear-pair-for-2014-2022-ram-2500-4wd?variant=39902663344177
We're on the King 3.0 Carli setup, not on the Fox PE currently. But usually running full firm on LSC to address the handling, and then pretty soft on HSC for the harder hits offroad.
How about a video of the 2.5 dsc on the power wagon! I just got my 2.5 dsc from you guys on Saturday. Rears are installed. Fronts not yet, because I'm not sure the provided mounts are going to keep the resis safe from the tires under full flex. Can you guys test them with the included front mounts for the resis that fox provides?
Yup! It is on the list. The SS Wagon is on 37s now and will probably end up on 40s, so if there are clearance issues, we will definitely be finding them and addressing them.
With the eco diesel on fox website it says the rear shocks give a 0-2 inch lift. Does the shock itself give a 2 inch lift while running the stock spring on a rebel setup? The reason why I’m asking is I’m kinda of in the same situation as the eco diesel owner. I have a rebel v8 and went with falcon and it is a harsher ride. Got the lift in the front but overall the ride is to be desired.
Vehicles that are running shocks, they do not provide you any lift but rather accommodates those lift amounts. If you want to lift your Ram 1500 in the rear, you would need a spring.
@@ShockSurplus with the new 3 inch bds fox set up I will assume it will give a true 3 inch lift in the front and the rear spring provided will give a 1.5 inch lift in the rear?
Hello guys! I know this is bit random, but what lbs springs would you recommend for FJ cruiser with no extra weight up front? Now I am running kings 2.5 adjustables with 600lbs front springs, but it feels kind of rough, do you think I am oversprung?
The King 2.5 with 600 lbs. springs are going to ride a bit rough because it's a performance suspension. Changing spring rates to something lower will not alleviate your comfort. The 600 lbs. rings is what we run for stock weight Toyota vehicles such as the Tacoma, 4runner and FJ Cruiser.
First of all, love the channel and content. I have learned lots by watching. I have the same truck as Kingston, 2022 year. I think the Fox 2.0 IFP would suit me fine for what I need. I hit the trail head with the mountain bike to go riding and do lots of camping 2 months of the year in provincial and state parks pulling a 8500 lbs travel trailer, (loaded). I am going to add a half bed rack to the bed to carry two 20 L roto fuel packs and some odds and ends in the bed when on the camping trips. Here is my question. With fox 2.0 coil over option for the diesel will the fox coils be sufficient? I won’t be adding any weight to the front bumper. Do I need UCA’s with this option? What rear coil would you recommend? I would add airlift 5000 for towing the trailer. Thoughts?
If you plan on towing and having some weight in the bed, you would probably be better off with a set of Bilsteins 6112s and 5160s or 5100s or an Eibach Stage 2 or Stage 2R kit. The Fox 2.0s are plush and comfy, but you will want something more stable under a load than they are. The Fox 2.0s do not allow for enough lift or cycle enough travel to require an aftermarket upper control arm so you are solid on those. The Bilstein and Eibach should be solid with the stock arms as long as you stay at or below 2" of lift on a Rebel or a truck with the ORP or around 2.5" on a standard 4WD. Any higher and you may start to run into issues with getting it aligned back within factory specifications.
@@ShockSurplus thanks for the response. Do you recommend new coils with the Billy’s in the rear? Also, Will the 6112s give me some levelling over the stock Rebel 4WD coils? Maybe the B12s in the back with the 5160s?
I have a Power Wagon also. I added the Fox 2.0 Reservoir shocks on mine but haven’t changed the springs yet. Did you upgrade the brakes on your PW? The brakes from the factory aren’t the best.
The power wagon just got the Carli system put on, and its the first part of a 4 part series going through all of the Carli shock packages. That full review is live on our channel now that compares the 2.0, 2.0 reservoir, King 2.5, and King 3.0
Hi I got the Fox 2.5 and 2.0 for my 2019 Trail Boss pending install. For highway driving did I make a good choice? Any other options I would need to add to maximize comfort?
If you got the Fox 2.5 with the DSC feature, you can dial in the way the suspension feels. The DSC is a low and high speed compression which you would want to soften it on normal driving conditions and tighten it up on trails.
I have 2020 ram rebel 5.7 hemi. I replaced the stock suspension because it sucked so bad but I went with falcons. I set the front suspension to the level setting but I’m still not completely level. Also even though the change from stock to the falcons was very notion a good way , I’m not totally convinced. The truck fills Sporty ? Yes. The truck fills planted? Yes. No body roll or nose dive at all but it stiff as fuck. When I’m driving in the city and there is brick roads or gravel I can fill everything like the from shock it’s not even moving it has to be a big hit to move those but small bumbs at slower speeds it’s doesn’t do the job properly. I’m thinking on the fox you guys have on the revel. But probably the 450 spring since I don have anything heavy
It depends on what kit you went with. If you used the 2.1 they might feel firm because of the smaller shock body but 3.3 would and should be much better in comfort because of the bigger body. If you do want to with another route, contact our sales team directly with everything you do on the truck or plan to and we'll help guide you.
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That clip at the 5:30 mark is insane. Wow.
haha jumping the wagon! that was fun, but also broke the front driveshaft i think
Need videos of the NON-REBEL eco-diesel, as the frame is completely different.
We would love to make more content on vehicles but we're limited to what's in our network. Most of the vehicles are our own vehicles and family and friends.
@@ShockSurplus I mean, if carli wants to put them on so you can do a video, Im sure I can be talked into it. 😏😋😉😄😆😅🤣😂🙃
@shock Surplus I have a v8 2022 Rebel no air suspension- i would love to work with you guys!
Looks like Tacoma rear needs to slow the rebound, which the Fox DSC doesn't have external adjustment for.
Fox doesn't offer rebound but the low and high speed compression works great for our needs on Jeff's Tacoma.
That's why I went with the Dobinsons mrr's
So would you say the fox 2.0 ifp and springs on the power wagon would give it better on road ride and better Offroad performance than the factory setup? I want to fall in love with my truck again.. Do I really need to spend the 2k for kings or 2.5 foxes?
we hear ya, the new carli carli springs and fox 2.0 is a huge positive difference over stock in the owner's (Sean) opinion, well worth it for both daily comfort and offroad performance.
Most of the DSCs for Rams are sold out on your site and can't be purchased. Is this because they are getting discontinued, or just because they are so popular? If this is what I want, how do I go about getting it?
The Factory DSC are discontinued for the 2014+ Ram 2500, there's still some on the shelf for certain sizes, but they moved those over to the Performance Elite options, which we have in stock. I guess it also depends which vehicle you have specifically. Feel free to text 213-433-3616
www.shocksurplus.com/products/fox-2-5-performance-elite-adjustable-w-reservoir-shocks-front-pair-for-2014-2022-ram-2500-4wd?variant=39902663147569
www.shocksurplus.com/products/fox-2-5-performance-elite-adjustable-w-reservoir-shocks-rear-pair-for-2014-2022-ram-2500-4wd?variant=39902663344177
Sean, you have the fox 2.5 elite now, what are your settings for your 2500?
We're on the King 3.0 Carli setup, not on the Fox PE currently. But usually running full firm on LSC to address the handling, and then pretty soft on HSC for the harder hits offroad.
How about a video of the 2.5 dsc on the power wagon! I just got my 2.5 dsc from you guys on Saturday. Rears are installed. Fronts not yet, because I'm not sure the provided mounts are going to keep the resis safe from the tires under full flex. Can you guys test them with the included front mounts for the resis that fox provides?
Yup! It is on the list. The SS Wagon is on 37s now and will probably end up on 40s, so if there are clearance issues, we will definitely be finding them and addressing them.
@@ShockSurplus definitely looking forward to that video!! If going 40s, mention what supporting mods you go with
Would the 6112 bilstein give a rebel a true 3 inches of lift with the v8 etorque?
No they will not. Almost no struts or coilovers will provide more 3" on a Rebel.
With the eco diesel on fox website it says the rear shocks give a 0-2 inch lift. Does the shock itself give a 2 inch lift while running the stock spring on a rebel setup? The reason why I’m asking is I’m kinda of in the same situation as the eco diesel owner. I have a rebel v8 and went with falcon and it is a harsher ride. Got the lift in the front but overall the ride is to be desired.
Vehicles that are running shocks, they do not provide you any lift but rather accommodates those lift amounts. If you want to lift your Ram 1500 in the rear, you would need a spring.
@@ShockSurplus with the new 3 inch bds fox set up I will assume it will give a true 3 inch lift in the front and the rear spring provided will give a 1.5 inch lift in the rear?
Hello guys! I know this is bit random, but what lbs springs would you recommend for FJ cruiser with no extra weight up front? Now I am running kings 2.5 adjustables with 600lbs front springs, but it feels kind of rough, do you think I am oversprung?
The King 2.5 with 600 lbs. springs are going to ride a bit rough because it's a performance suspension. Changing spring rates to something lower will not alleviate your comfort. The 600 lbs. rings is what we run for stock weight Toyota vehicles such as the Tacoma, 4runner and FJ Cruiser.
I have the ing coil overs on my fj and its a dream ride
First of all, love the channel and content. I have learned lots by watching. I have the same truck as Kingston, 2022 year. I think the Fox 2.0 IFP would suit me fine for what I need. I hit the trail head with the mountain bike to go riding and do lots of camping 2 months of the year in provincial and state parks pulling a 8500 lbs travel trailer, (loaded). I am going to add a half bed rack to the bed to carry two 20 L roto fuel packs and some odds and ends in the bed when on the camping trips. Here is my question. With fox 2.0 coil over option for the diesel will the fox coils be sufficient? I won’t be adding any weight to the front bumper. Do I need UCA’s with this option? What rear coil would you recommend? I would add airlift 5000 for towing the trailer. Thoughts?
If you plan on towing and having some weight in the bed, you would probably be better off with a set of Bilsteins 6112s and 5160s or 5100s or an Eibach Stage 2 or Stage 2R kit. The Fox 2.0s are plush and comfy, but you will want something more stable under a load than they are. The Fox 2.0s do not allow for enough lift or cycle enough travel to require an aftermarket upper control arm so you are solid on those. The Bilstein and Eibach should be solid with the stock arms as long as you stay at or below 2" of lift on a Rebel or a truck with the ORP or around 2.5" on a standard 4WD. Any higher and you may start to run into issues with getting it aligned back within factory specifications.
@@ShockSurplus thanks for the quick response! Do you recommend keeping the stock coils both front and rear with the billy set up you suggested?
@@ShockSurplus thanks for the response. Do you recommend new coils with the Billy’s in the rear? Also, Will the 6112s give me some levelling over the stock Rebel 4WD coils? Maybe the B12s in the back with the 5160s?
What roof rack do you have on the Power Wagon? I’m looking for that same look for my 1500 with an ARE cap
Rhino Rack pioneer platform, they have a lot of mounting options for the yakima tracks on the ARE shells
I have a Power Wagon also. I added the Fox 2.0 Reservoir shocks on mine but haven’t changed the springs yet.
Did you upgrade the brakes on your PW? The brakes from the factory aren’t the best.
Our boss, Sean Reyes, owns the Blue Powerwagon. He did not upgrade his brake setup.
Why would you not put the 2.5 on the heaviest truck
The power wagon just got the Carli system put on, and its the first part of a 4 part series going through all of the Carli shock packages. That full review is live on our channel now that compares the 2.0, 2.0 reservoir, King 2.5, and King 3.0
Hi I got the Fox 2.5 and 2.0 for my 2019 Trail Boss pending install. For highway driving did I make a good choice? Any other options I would need to add to maximize comfort?
If you got the Fox 2.5 with the DSC feature, you can dial in the way the suspension feels. The DSC is a low and high speed compression which you would want to soften it on normal driving conditions and tighten it up on trails.
Front Fox shocks on my 21 Mojave being replaced under warranty, terrible creaking sound. Very disappointed.
Interesting, maybe the bushings? Would love to know more
@@ShockSurplus The dealership identified the front shocks as source of issue. They also indicated this isn't the first customer complaint.
I have 2020 ram rebel 5.7 hemi. I replaced the stock suspension because it sucked so bad but I went with falcons. I set the front suspension to the level setting but I’m still not completely level. Also even though the change from stock to the falcons was very notion a good way , I’m not totally convinced. The truck fills Sporty ? Yes. The truck fills planted? Yes. No body roll or nose dive at all but it stiff as fuck. When I’m driving in the city and there is brick roads or gravel I can fill everything like the from shock it’s not even moving it has to be a big hit to move those but small bumbs at slower speeds it’s doesn’t do the job properly. I’m thinking on the fox you guys have on the revel. But probably the 450 spring since I don have anything heavy
It depends on what kit you went with. If you used the 2.1 they might feel firm because of the smaller shock body but 3.3 would and should be much better in comfort because of the bigger body. If you do want to with another route, contact our sales team directly with everything you do on the truck or plan to and we'll help guide you.