Yes it's frustrating with the magazines. Very hit and miss with them. The laser prints work really well for me now I know how to adjust the contrast and double print them myself 😊
I've only got a black and white printer at home but yes I've heard it works well with colour laser printers. When mine needs replacing I will definitely be getting a colour laser printer next 🙂
Michelle enjoying tour video showing the not so good result as well as when it works . Did you print the laser prints the same day as you 'gelli plated' them ?
Thank you. Yes I printed them about 5 minutes before printing them. Don't know if it makes a difference if they are freshly printed or not. Thanks for watching 🙂
Great demonstration and print. Love seeing it first pass and then with your doubling printing for more pop and contrast. I am so psyched to delve right into Gelli printing photocopies with my home Brother monochrome laser printer, but I was thrown because it did not work. The toner did not adhere to the GP, and I put it through the printer 3 times. Have you ever heard of the problem being the toner (its some third party toner which is cheaper),, Someone said that they take their prints out to be printed to avoid problems, but I feel that crazy because the experience of getting it onto the plate is part of the entire viseral experience. Thank's again.
Thanks so much. I don't know about third party toners or particular laser printers being a problem. Maybe you are printing an image that has too much grey in it despite printing several times? I also use a halftone filter sometimes when editing digital images before I print. Someone shared a video of themselves trying to do a laser transfer in one of the Gel Printing FB groups as they kept failing to get a transfer. The images they printed didn't have nearly enough contrast. They also didn't make sure the print was in full contact with the gel plate. They got lots of suggestions from members. Check out the FB groups and post some images or best of all a short video of what you are doing. Good luck
I so appreciate your taking the time to give me common sense feedback on how I might proceed. Wishing all the best to you with your fabulous creative style. @@Michellemixedmedia
@@Michellemixedmedia I moved late last night. Had to unpack the kitchen and bedroom first. Need hubby to put my craft desk up tonight. 🤞 he is in a good mood after work!
It's worth a try Ashley. Great for making prints of more personal subjects like family etc. The magazines are fun but a bit limited for subjects. Tfw ☺️🦋🌸
I tried this technique and I think I let the paint stay too long....it was a disaster🤯. Do you use regular copy paper or card stock? I like the way it turned out💚💚. Great tip, run it twice👍🏻. Thanks for sharing🙏🏻
I've used laser prints months after I've actually printed them. My prints failed when I first tried because they had too little contrast. Also double printing to get lots of toner on the print made a big difference.
Hi , Michelle I wonder if you could help me I’m a professional photographer and want to use my own photography images on gelli plate. So I need to prints them to transfer, I’m new to gelli plate. When you say laser print what printer are you using? And what’s the best paper? When I’ve watched video people are using magazines image which transfer really well . People need to carefull with copyright.
Hi Ian, I have the details of my printer in the description box. I can't recommend it as I need to double print to build up toner on the page. I just use laser copy paper for my laser prints. To pull the transfer from the gel plate you can use all kinds of papers though. Smooth papers pick up more of the transfer. Never use photo paper as the emulsion will ruin the surface of the gel plate I've heard. Image transfers can initially be a learning curve and give varying results but they are fun.
There are a lot of things that can make a transfer fail. It took me quite a lot of frustrating attempts before I got the hang of it. Double printing my laser print is a must for mine to transfer well.
I have tried running the prints through twice with no joy. I have a Brother laser printer. It seems that this toner doesn't work at all. I have not, after many tries, been able to get any of the image to transfer to the paint on the gelli surface.
It's frustrating I know but unlikely to be the toner if you have double printed. It may be your image doesn't have enough contrast or that you have too much paint on the gel plate or that you leave the laser print on the plate too long etc. It's difficult to say what the issue is unless someone can see your whole process as there are many variables. I saw a video where someone uploaded a short video of their process to a gel printing group on Facebook and people could see that there were a couple of problems and could advise. You could try that or if not keep watching videos of image transfer using laser prints for more tips.
I just bought brother HL1212W yesterday, so far I have managed to get 2 out of 20 images successfully off of paper onto plate, both of them I had sprayed with the picture varnish and let dry and the other other 8 failures are a mix of both, I think this last one I was getting there with regard to the right amount of paint on the gelli press. Keep experimenting .
Thanks so much. I'm using black acrylic paint. I recommend brands like Pebeo, Liquitex and Amsterdam. An opaque black colour is best like Ivory Black or Oxide Black ☺️
Hi - I have tried unsuccessfully many time to transfer an inkjet image to gelli plate. I printed it in B&W after making a halftone of the picture. Contrast is good. Black acrylic is wet and thin on the plate after rolling it with the brayer, then I lay down the laserjet image - lightly toughing it for 3 to 5 seconds and then life. It comes off easily - not sticky the way in your video. And ALL of the ink comes off the plate onto the paper. If anything, there might be one small part of the image on the plate somewhere and it is way to light to be meaningful. I dont know how to be lighter with touch or faster with laydown to prevent so much of the acrylic from coming off the plate. Do you know what I need to do? I am out of ideas and frustrated!
You mention using inkjet images. You need to be sure you are using a laser print. They are very different. An inkjet print will not work using this process. This process is a resist process. The toner in laser prints resists the water based acrylic paint on the gel plate so when a print is placed on the plate, anywhere where there is a high amount of toner will repel the acrylic paint and leave it behind on the plate while parts of the page without toner will pick up the paint and leave the darkest parts of the image on your gel plate.
If all the paint is lifted off the plate when you try to transfer the image to the plate then it sounds like there is not enough toner on your print to repel the acrylic paint. Maybe print something which only has black and white at first to try and troubleshoot this. I double print images.
Hi Alan, I've got a Canon i-SENSYS LBP226dw but I think it should work on any laser printer. I make my images very high contrast or halftone using image editing software but the main thing that helps is printing on the same paper twice. Not tried any from a print shop so far. good luck and I hope the double printing works for you.
I use regular copier paper and the prints can be transferred weeks after printing. The key thing is high contrast prints and printing the image twice it seems. Printing once didn't work for me probably due to modern laser printers not using as much toner as the older ones.
Lovely results,Michelle. What make of laser printer do you have please? I keep trying to persuade Mr Doodle that we neeeeed one! Lol. Tfs. Hugs,Dee xxx
I just sent the info on Insta DM. Just let Mr Doodle know they are very affordable now and your prints are less expensive and faster to print than inkjet printers 😃🤞xx
I never thought to put the paper through and print twice!!! I saw somewhere that someone actually printed their laser print on like a glossy photo paper and it seemed to work great. Have you tried that? I’m not having any luck but I think I’m rolling too much paint. Wont give up! Still trying!
I've not tried glossy photo paper but it works well printing twice with a laser printer. Important to use an image that's very high contrast so ideally no shades of grey just black and white. Once you get the hang of it it's great fun ☺️ Tfw 🦋🌸
For any future print makers, I want to clarify it's NOT photo paper, it's glossy "business paper". Photo paper will ruin your gell plate by sticking, pulling up pieces of the gell plate.
Such a fun technique. I tried this once on my last laser printer and totally failed. I will have to give it a go now that I have a new laser printer. I can't for the life of me remember how I did this, but maybe look and see if your printer has a setting in your printer dialog box to add more toner somehow. I did this with my current printer to get better foiling results and then set up a custom printer setting so I only use it for when I am foiling. Not sure if all lasers have this option, but my Canon does. It's buried pretty deep in the settings and like I said, I can't seem to find it now, but I know I did it somehow.
Sounds like you need to roll less paint on the plate as the paper should not really get wrinkly. I use a variety of papers and gsms from copier paper, deli paper etc to fine art paper. HP laser paper goes up to 120gsm if you want a thicker copier paper.
Thank you so much Michelle, that’s really really helpful and useful too. And yes it’s a beautiful image. And the second one is certainly the best. Please stay safe and well too xxx Mags
@@Michellemixedmedia Ive tried many colors for image transfer and nothing is working. I dont understand.. I bought all kinds of colors, even a laser printer and nothing is working!! Help!
thank you,! I have abandon this process as it was so hit and miss, I shall give this a try, to see if it works! Thank you again, cool beans!
Yes it's frustrating with the magazines. Very hit and miss with them. The laser prints work really well for me now I know how to adjust the contrast and double print them myself 😊
Great tip! Thank you xx
Fabulous work Michelle 🌸have a great weekend 😘xx
Thanks so much Antonio. You too xx🦋🌸
Lovely results, thank you for sharing. Have a great weekend, takecare.😍😊🌻🐣
Thanks Màrgaret and tfw 🦋🌸🌈
I heard from YeatesMakes that if you use a colour laser printer, it works better than just black toner printers.
I've only got a black and white printer at home but yes I've heard it works well with colour laser printers. When mine needs replacing I will definitely be getting a colour laser printer next 🙂
Michelle enjoying tour video showing the not so good result as well as when it works . Did you print the laser prints the same day as you 'gelli plated' them ?
Thank you. Yes I printed them about 5 minutes before printing them. Don't know if it makes a difference if they are freshly printed or not. Thanks for watching 🙂
Great demonstration and print. Love seeing it first pass and then with your doubling printing for more pop and contrast. I am so psyched to delve right into Gelli printing photocopies with my home Brother monochrome laser printer, but I was thrown because it did not work. The toner did not adhere to the GP, and I put it through the printer 3 times. Have you ever heard of the problem being the toner (its some third party toner which is cheaper),, Someone said that they take their prints out to be printed to avoid problems, but I feel that crazy because the experience of getting it onto the plate is part of the entire viseral experience. Thank's again.
Thanks so much. I don't know about third party toners or particular laser printers being a problem. Maybe you are printing an image that has too much grey in it despite printing several times? I also use a halftone filter sometimes when editing digital images before I print. Someone shared a video of themselves trying to do a laser transfer in one of the Gel Printing FB groups as they kept failing to get a transfer. The images they printed didn't have nearly enough contrast. They also didn't make sure the print was in full contact with the gel plate. They got lots of suggestions from members. Check out the FB groups and post some images or best of all a short video of what you are doing. Good luck
I so appreciate your taking the time to give me common sense feedback on how I might proceed. Wishing all the best to you with your fabulous creative style. @@Michellemixedmedia
had the same issue. The problem was the paper. changed from no-name to Xerox, same weight.
This is fabulous Michelle XX 🥰💖🌈
Thank you xx ☺️🌈🌸🦋
Oooh fantastic results. TFS xxx
Thanks Lorna and Tfw xxx🦋🌸
Thanks for the tips!🌺
Wonderful tutorial have plates will try this a newbie thank you ex tutorial 😊
Thanks so much and tfw 🦋🌸
Ooooo I wanna try this, I miss my craft room!
Have you moved yet? Fingers crossed 🤞 it's gone smoothly 💗
@@Michellemixedmedia I moved late last night. Had to unpack the kitchen and bedroom first. Need hubby to put my craft desk up tonight. 🤞 he is in a good mood after work!
I’m quite new to your channel. I’ve got a laser printer so might give this a go. Thank you 😀🙏
It's worth a try Ashley. Great for making prints of more personal subjects like family etc. The magazines are fun but a bit limited for subjects. Tfw ☺️🦋🌸
@@Michellemixedmedia I will give it a go. I need to get a bigger gelli plate first 😀
Nice design/Print ❤
Thanks so much
I tried this technique and I think I let the paint stay too long....it was a disaster🤯. Do you use regular copy paper or card stock? I like the way it turned out💚💚. Great tip, run it twice👍🏻. Thanks for sharing🙏🏻
Hi, yes I just use plain printer/copier paper. It works fine with that. No need to use anything fancy ☺️
Do you have to try to use it straight away? I just can't seem to get it to work :(
I've used laser prints months after I've actually printed them. My prints failed when I first tried because they had too little contrast. Also double printing to get lots of toner on the print made a big difference.
Hi , Michelle I wonder if you could help me I’m a professional photographer and want to use my own photography images on gelli plate. So I need to prints them to transfer, I’m new to gelli plate. When you say laser print what printer are you using? And what’s the best paper? When I’ve watched video people are using magazines image which transfer really well . People need to carefull with copyright.
Hi Ian, I have the details of my printer in the description box. I can't recommend it as I need to double print to build up toner on the page. I just use laser copy paper for my laser prints. To pull the transfer from the gel plate you can use all kinds of papers though. Smooth papers pick up more of the transfer. Never use photo paper as the emulsion will ruin the surface of the gel plate I've heard. Image transfers can initially be a learning curve and give varying results but they are fun.
It must have something to do with the laser ink an or the acrylic paint to do the transfers. I have only succeeded once..
There are a lot of things that can make a transfer fail. It took me quite a lot of frustrating attempts before I got the hang of it. Double printing my laser print is a must for mine to transfer well.
Hi. Very helpful. May I ask what make model of printer do you use?
I have a Canon i-SENSYS LBP226dw. It's a few years old 🙂
Thank you! I’ll have a look to see if there is a current version.
Beautiful print! That’s a great tip to run it through the printer twice xx
Thank you. Yes, someone mentioned it in a comment in a gelli print group. Was really helpful ☺️ Tfw xx
I have tried running the prints through twice with no joy. I have a Brother laser printer. It seems that this toner doesn't work at all. I have not, after many tries, been able to get any of the image to transfer to the paint on the gelli surface.
It's frustrating I know but unlikely to be the toner if you have double printed. It may be your image doesn't have enough contrast or that you have too much paint on the gel plate or that you leave the laser print on the plate too long etc. It's difficult to say what the issue is unless someone can see your whole process as there are many variables. I saw a video where someone uploaded a short video of their process to a gel printing group on Facebook and people could see that there were a couple of problems and could advise. You could try that or if not keep watching videos of image transfer using laser prints for more tips.
I just bought brother HL1212W yesterday, so far I have managed to get 2 out of 20 images successfully off of paper onto plate, both of them I had sprayed with the picture varnish and let dry and the other other 8 failures are a mix of both, I think this last one I was getting there with regard to the right amount of paint on the gelli press. Keep experimenting .
Love it!! What kind of ink do you recommend for the initial black layer?
Thanks so much. I'm using black acrylic paint. I recommend brands like Pebeo, Liquitex and Amsterdam. An opaque black colour is best like Ivory Black or Oxide Black ☺️
Excellent video!! (Just a bit quiet on the sound.) 🙂
Thanks for watching. I will check my volume settings next time 🙂
Hi - I have tried unsuccessfully many time to transfer an inkjet image to gelli plate. I printed it in B&W after making a halftone of the picture. Contrast is good. Black acrylic is wet and thin on the plate after rolling it with the brayer, then I lay down the laserjet image - lightly toughing it for 3 to 5 seconds and then life. It comes off easily - not sticky the way in your video. And ALL of the ink comes off the plate onto the paper. If anything, there might be one small part of the image on the plate somewhere and it is way to light to be meaningful. I dont know how to be lighter with touch or faster with laydown to prevent so much of the acrylic from coming off the plate. Do you know what I need to do? I am out of ideas and frustrated!
You mention using inkjet images. You need to be sure you are using a laser print. They are very different. An inkjet print will not work using this process. This process is a resist process. The toner in laser prints resists the water based acrylic paint on the gel plate so when a print is placed on the plate, anywhere where there is a high amount of toner will repel the acrylic paint and leave it behind on the plate while parts of the page without toner will pick up the paint and leave the darkest parts of the image on your gel plate.
@@Michellemixedmedia thanks. I meant to say laser jet. I threw away my inkjet for a new laser jet to try to make this work.
If all the paint is lifted off the plate when you try to transfer the image to the plate then it sounds like there is not enough toner on your print to repel the acrylic paint. Maybe print something which only has black and white at first to try and troubleshoot this. I double print images.
Is it possible to lift the laser print directly with Matt medium?
Yes you can use matt medium instead of acrylic paint to lift image from the gel plate.
What kind of laser printer do you use? I wanted to try this, but it didn’t work too well with my cheap printer.
I have seen one artist who uses professional laser printers such as those at print/mail shops, and they work much better.
Hi Alan, I've got a Canon i-SENSYS LBP226dw but I think it should work on any laser printer. I make my images very high contrast or halftone using image editing software but the main thing that helps is printing on the same paper twice. Not tried any from a print shop so far. good luck and I hope the double printing works for you.
I’m definitely going to dust off my printer and try again! 🙏
i don't have gel plate, can it be change with acrylic plate
The gel plate is very different from an acrylic plate so I don't think it will work.
@@Michellemixedmedia use the diy method with knox gelatin.
Can you clean the jelly pad with water or something else?
Water is all you need
Does the laser print need to be fresh or can it be dry and used at a later stage (hours or days later) ? Do you use normal copy paper ?
I use regular copier paper and the prints can be transferred weeks after printing. The key thing is high contrast prints and printing the image twice it seems. Printing once didn't work for me probably due to modern laser printers not using as much toner as the older ones.
@@Michellemixedmedia Thank you 🤩👍
The laser print can be months old. No need for fresh print. I just use the normal laser printer paper.
Lovely results,Michelle. What make of laser printer do you have please? I keep trying to persuade Mr Doodle that we neeeeed one! Lol. Tfs. Hugs,Dee xxx
I just sent the info on Insta DM. Just let Mr Doodle know they are very affordable now and your prints are less expensive and faster to print than inkjet printers 😃🤞xx
@@Michellemixedmedia Thanks ever so much,Michelle xx
Thank you. Your tips are very helpful. Have you used a chinagraph pencil to draw an image then tried to transfer the drawing onto a gelplate?
I haven't so far but I have used oil pastels and charcoal to transfer drawings. They work well.
I never thought to put the paper through and print twice!!! I saw somewhere that someone actually printed their laser print on like a glossy photo paper and it seemed to work great. Have you tried that? I’m not having any luck but I think I’m rolling too much paint. Wont give up! Still trying!
I've not tried glossy photo paper but it works well printing twice with a laser printer. Important to use an image that's very high contrast so ideally no shades of grey just black and white. Once you get the hang of it it's great fun ☺️ Tfw 🦋🌸
For any future print makers, I want to clarify it's NOT photo paper, it's glossy "business paper". Photo paper will ruin your gell plate by sticking, pulling up pieces of the gell plate.
what printer & toner do you have ?
Hi, you will find the info in the description box for this video.
Great results! Thank you for sharing, take care and hope you have an amazing weekend!
Thank you Ann. Hope you have a great weekend too 🦋🌸🌈
Such a fun technique. I tried this once on my last laser printer and totally failed. I will have to give it a go now that I have a new laser printer. I can't for the life of me remember how I did this, but maybe look and see if your printer has a setting in your printer dialog box to add more toner somehow. I did this with my current printer to get better foiling results and then set up a custom printer setting so I only use it for when I am foiling. Not sure if all lasers have this option, but my Canon does. It's buried pretty deep in the settings and like I said, I can't seem to find it now, but I know I did it somehow.
Thanks so much for that tip. I will have to have a good look as it would be better than having to print same paper twice 😃 Tfw ☺️🦋🌸
Oooooooh. Fantastic results Michelle! Love this.... guess I'm going to have to put a laser printer on my wishlist now lol! Thanks for sharing 💕
My laser printer was a lovely birthday present. It's so quick to print and so much cheaper than a inkjet. Love it ☺️💗
Awesome video also participatied in giveaway
What kind of paper are you using? The standard Copy Paper 80g seems not to work great because it gets wrinkly when rubbing because of moisture..
Sounds like you need to roll less paint on the plate as the paper should not really get wrinkly. I use a variety of papers and gsms from copier paper, deli paper etc to fine art paper. HP laser paper goes up to 120gsm if you want a thicker copier paper.
I tried putting it through printer twice, but it never lined up exactly. I wonder if using gel medium would help
Not tried printing with gel medium. Some people say prints done by copy shops work just printed normally.
Beautiful print Michelle really enjoyed watching this xx
Thanks Tracey xx
Beautiful image. It’s like a metamorphosis
Thanks so much Solae ☺️🦋🌸🌈
Wow so pretty 🧚 good advice tfs ❤️
Thanks Claire ☺️🦋🌸
Hi- lovely image- does this work with ink jet prints?
You could try it but I don't think it does. Tfw 🙂
Can you recommend a brand name of laser printer ?
I have a Canon and I know someone who uses HP for this.
Thank you so much Michelle, that’s really really helpful and useful too. And yes it’s a beautiful image. And the second one is certainly the best. Please stay safe and well too xxx Mags
Thanks. Hope you are keeping well xxx 🌈🦋🌸
@@Michellemixedmedia Ive tried many colors for image transfer and nothing is working. I dont understand.. I bought all kinds of colors, even a laser printer and nothing is working!! Help!
Omg this is so beautiful❤❤
Thanks so much 🦋🌸